Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Giannis' Days Numbered in Mil? + Jaylen Brown Reveals Torn Meniscus

Episode Date: May 19, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson & Joe Johnson react to reports that Giannis Antetokounmpo will meet with the Bucks to discuss his future in Milwaukee, Iso Joe's upcoming season in the BIG...3, and Jaylen Brown revealing he played in the NBA Playoffs on a torn meniscus.01:47 - Giannis to meet with Bucks14:55 - Jaylen Brown torn meniscus26:00 - BIG3’s new format33:51 - CeeDee Lamb & George Pickens fit36:25 - Mack Wilson: Super Bowl or Grammy43:37 - Q&Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:16 In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.
Starting point is 00:01:38 To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Volume. Giannis and the Bucs are scheduled to meet. I scheduled a meeting about the team direction to meet amid trade rumors. According to NBA insider Chris Haynes, I was told the Bucs made contact with Giannis Antetokounmpo early as this morning and sources relayed to me that a meeting is expected to be scheduled for mid-next week.
Starting point is 00:02:23 This is where Giannis is going to have his chance to speak with the Bucks brass and talk about the direction of the team. Giannis responded to a couple of fan questions last night, including the one he was asked his favorite NFL team, Packers-Dallas Cowboys. Do you have a favorite NFL team that would have been in the States for a while? And he said the Packers and the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:02:44 So obviously, the Packers play in Wisconsin. Milwaukee is in Wisconsin. The Cowboys play in Dallas. Team that's in Dallas is the Mavericks. No, no. Joe, you got to discuss that. So tell me what you're thinking, Joe. This meeting, I'm sure you probably had meetings.
Starting point is 00:03:02 You went, you know, in Phoenix. You ended up from Phoenix, go to Atlanta. Atlanta, you go to the Nets. So, what's going to take place in a meeting of this magnitude? Man, Giannis probably is going to, I would say he's probably going to voice obviously how he feels, and
Starting point is 00:03:17 he's going to ask the direction of his team, and where we're trying to go. Or like, how can we get better? And if it's nothing that appeases him, yeah, I can see him asking for a trade. I can see him asking for a trade, and I've said it all along, and I know people are going to get
Starting point is 00:03:35 Nico a lot of flag, but I say you got to package that Cooper flag, that number one pick, and go get Giannis then. Listen, I'm saying that because, Ocho, listen, hear me out. I got you. Go ahead. As a rookie, I mean, I think he's going to be a pretty good player in his league.
Starting point is 00:03:54 But as a rookie, I just can't see him really helping the Mavericks compete for a championship. You go get Giannis, man, please. You're going to be, I you i mean it's gonna make the west a lot thicker but yannis and ad and kairi because in his current situation ocho yeah in his current situation dame is not going to be there until 2026 right that's if he's lucky. He probably take the whole year and not play next year and don't play till 26, 27. So now,
Starting point is 00:04:29 Giannis by himself is not coming out of the East. And they don't really have pieces that they can go pair and get somebody to come along with Giannis. Because I don't know what the draft compensation looked like. They traded some things, get Dame.
Starting point is 00:04:46 So what you normally would have, you don't have anymore. So with that being said, I don't know what they can tell him that's going to assure him or make him rest comfortably to say, you know what, okay, now Boston, we can challenge Boston. We can challenge the Knicks. We can challenge the Pacers. Really? You think you can?
Starting point is 00:05:07 Clap the Cavaliers. I don't think the way the Milwaukee Bucks are currently constructed, I don't believe they're no better than the, what, fifth, fourth, fifth best team in the East? First round exit. Yeah. But here, I got something else for you, right? Now, when we talk
Starting point is 00:05:25 about where yannis might go and some of the questions he was asked on twitter and this is what i really like about superstar players that had actively engaged with the fans right and this obviously liking the packers liking the cowboys and trying to put two and two together so we can also take a question that was asked to yannis out of all the cities you ever been to which city made you the happiest to be there not counting your hometown and yannis said florida cities now we can take that as well as another hint based on what i told you about my meet with mickey harrison right and spolstra Pat Riley. Now, he answered and said, Florida City. Now, you know he's not talking about Orlando. And the
Starting point is 00:06:09 only other NBA team in Florida is who, Joe? The Heat. Orlando, man, can you imagine what Giannis, and Franz Wagner? Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Yeah, they better than the Heat
Starting point is 00:06:25 with that, yeah. See how y'all, see how I keep trying to give y'all hints. I'm telling y'all what's going to happen. Y'all not listening to me. Ocho, what the Heat giving up to get Giannis?
Starting point is 00:06:39 Because if you got to give up one of your big guns, there ain't even no point. I mean, what we doing? Right. Hold on. You don't want to give up your big guns, right? But you said they're going to give up the big gun big guns. There ain't even no point. I mean, what are we doing? Right. Hold on. You don't want to give up your big guns, right?
Starting point is 00:06:46 But you said he don't give up the big gun that just got drafted number one to go to goddamn Dallas. He's not proven. He's never played in the league. Yeah. I have a question.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Is Tyler Hero better than Cooper Flagg? Is Tyler Hero better than Cooper Flagg? Come on, come on now. It don't take that long to answer that. Tyler Hero ain't going to put Buss in the seat like Cooper Flagg. Cooper Flagg will be the number one overall pick.
Starting point is 00:07:18 People view him as a generational talent. People don't view Tyler Hero as that. Now, I'm not saying Tyler Hero, I don't know what Cooper Flagg will be, but I'm saying evaluators. If Cooper Flagg and Tyler Hero are in the same draft, who do you think going one? Tyler Hero or Cooper Flagg? Okay. Okay. I know.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I'm understanding what you're saying, but why, if you understand that, he went one for a reason. Yeah. Went one for a reason. But they're saying, right, but the Dallas Mavericks want to win a championship right now at this minute they're like we want to win a championship
Starting point is 00:07:49 the moment they trade Luka we need to win a championship yeah what Joe and I are saying we believe Giannis gets them closer to that than Cooper Flagg
Starting point is 00:07:58 I there's been only one rookie that really can I mean you got to go back Wes Unsell uh uh but Wes
Starting point is 00:08:04 Wes no Wes but he wasn't the MVP of the rookie but I'm saying you got to go back to Wes Unsell. But Wes, no, he wasn't the MVP as a rookie. But I'm saying you got to go back to Magic Johnson. The question is, do you believe Cooper flagged Magic Johnson? Because he's the only guy that can lead a team to a title. Listen, as a rookie, I'm not sure he can do it. But I understand what he's capable of doing. We saw him play at Duke. We understand how special he is.
Starting point is 00:08:23 I think he can make a huge difference. Can he be honest? Let's just say for the sake of doing. We saw him play at Duke. We understand how special he is. I think he can make a huge difference. Can he be Giannis? Let's just say for the sake of argument, Giannis is right now. Ain't nobody going to be Giannis. Giannis gave me $4.35 a night. Okay, well, there you go. In three to four years, yeah,
Starting point is 00:08:40 Cooper Flagg, he probably going to be something to deal with in the NBA, but his rookie year, dealing with that Mavs team who was looking to win right, not now, but right now. Right now, yeah, I understand. Yeah, they... That's the only thing I'm saying, Ocho. That's the only thing I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I got you. Listen, I understand what both of y'all are saying. Now, I'm trying to give you as much information as I can without really spilling the beans. But y'all not listening to me. Y'all not listening to me. Y'all not listening to me. So when it actually happens, all I'm going to do,
Starting point is 00:09:08 I'm going to come on the show, I'm going to light up my cigar, and I'm going to say, I told you so. That's it. Because y'all be thinking I be lying and playing and capping and all that. And I'm telling you, I sat in the meeting
Starting point is 00:09:17 with the power players that run the heat organization. And I know what moves are being made. I know what strings are being made. I know what strings are being, being, being pulled behind closed doors. Yeah. But for me,
Starting point is 00:09:31 I agree with you, Joe. I don't know. I don't know what Milwaukee can tell him shorting him short, short of telling him we got a 30% stake in Harley Davidson and we give you 15% of it. Other than that, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Honestly, honestly, because when you look at the way this team, who, I mean, what piece can you trade? Dame is injured, an Achilles injury, and I think he's like, what, 32, 33 years of age. Okay, with that being said, and he's gone for the entire year. What pieces, if I'm not mistaken, what, Brooke Lopez might be a free agent.
Starting point is 00:10:03 You got Bobby Portis. I'm trying to figure out what do you have. You don't have a whole lot of draft capital because you're trading that up to get Dame. And you don't have pieces outside of Giannis. Giannis is going to probably want to lead. Can I tell you what this meeting is about? What? Every time football season ended, what meeting did we have with the coach at the end of the season?
Starting point is 00:10:25 What's it called? It's the exit meeting. And that's what the meeting is about. They already had theirs. They've been out of the playoff for two weeks. They've been out of that. I know. Listen, they've been having an extra one.
Starting point is 00:10:34 I don't know why they have an extra one because there's nothing they can do. There's nothing that they can do in putting the trade off that can make them a contender and have them not being bounced out the first round again. Giannis is going back in that room. There's nothing. There's nothing you can pull. You can't pull no rabbit out the hat and all of a sudden say,
Starting point is 00:10:50 listen, Giannis, this is what we can do for our team. That's going to put us in contention. Absolutely nothing. So the fact that he's even having a meeting again about nothing makes no sense. Hey, listen. Ocho, what y'all think about Giannis going to the Lakers? That's a problem.
Starting point is 00:11:10 You don't have no goddamn bench. You're going to have to get a few guys from the G League. That's what you're going to have. Joe, they might call you up. Joe, they might call you up. You got 15 minutes in you? I got 15 to 18 minutes in me.
Starting point is 00:11:24 I got that. I got that. I got that. I got that. Hey, I can do that with no problem. Listen, if Giannis, Giannis, Luka, and LeBron are on the same team, every goddamn game for 82 weeks is going to be three on five. Nah, they got some other guys who can step up and play. They can make it work.
Starting point is 00:11:44 You get them three on the team, you're going to have to make it work. We said the same thing about Bradley Beal, Kevin Durant, and goddamn Devin Booker. No, but Bradley Beal and Devin Booker are the same people. Hey, look, Ocho, the Lakers missing that big, Giannis will be a major piece for them. Giannis play the four. He don't play the five. Yeah, that boy gonna play the five,
Starting point is 00:12:08 the four, the three, the two, and the one. What you talking about? Hey, look, he can do a multitude of things. I think, you know, he'll open up the offense and give guys easy buckets. Obviously, he'll take the pressure off LeBron. He won't have to do as much. Defensively, he's going
Starting point is 00:12:25 to... Come on, man. Yeah. You're right. I just think in the NBA this summer, I think we're going to see some superstars move around. I agree. And it's going to be amazing to see. I think it's going to be good for the league.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Hey, don't be surprised. What you call them trying to pull this? You watch Golden State. Golden State going to try to get in the league. And, you know, hey, don't be surprised. Hey, what you call them trying to pull this? You watch Golden State. Golden State going to try to get in the mix. Watch. What, who, Giannis? Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:53 What you think about Giannis for Kaminga and some picks? I think Golden State got picks. I think they got draft capital. But I think they want a superstar back in return. Like who? They're going to want a Cooper flag. They're going to want, they're going to want all,
Starting point is 00:13:11 all star level player. Yeah. I can see that. Like, and you know, you said, you said superstars can, can,
Starting point is 00:13:19 can y'all give me, give me two other names or maybe just one other name that might be on the move this off season. Well, we know Kevin,ant's going to leave. Kevin Durant's moving. Yeah. You know, KD got a place in Miami, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Yeah. Okay. But Ishba, you're going to have to satisfy because of what he gave up to get KD. You're going to have to satisfy that. And I don't know if the Knicks have that. Now look, when you start dealing with these superstar players, you probably get multiple teams involved. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Because it's going to have to, you're going to have to fix, you know, the puzzle will have to, you know, fit. That'll make sense. So you're going to probably have, you'll see a lot of 3-4 teams moving these pieces but I think this is going to be probably one of the most one of the busiest summers that we've seen in a very long time
Starting point is 00:14:12 but I can tell you what I can tell you what Joe you know the summer is going to be very busy but I can tell you how the season will go next year and I can tell you who coming out the motherfucking east Miami Heat you heard me y'all see y'all don't want to listen I'm going to tell you who's coming out the motherfucking East. Who? Go ahead. Miami Heat. Oh, boy. You heard me?
Starting point is 00:14:26 Oh, Joe. Y'all see, y'all don't want to listen. Every time I say something, y'all never want to listen to it because I'm black. You said that about Cincinnati going to make the playoffs. That's why you owe me $5,200. You told me Miami Heat was going to come out to what you call them? The play-in. I told you we didn't make it out of the first round
Starting point is 00:14:46 because everybody got food poisoning. The whole team had food poisoning. That's why we lost. I don't know what they got. But they got you in debt. I'm going to pay you $5,200, man. I told you. I'm going to let Justine get my money back.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I'm done with it. I'm going to send Justine to collect my money. I'm going to wash up. I'm going to let Justine get my money back. I'm done with it. I'm going to send Justine to collect my money. I'm going to wash up. I'm going to wash up. Yeah, all right. Evan Brown played the playoffs with a partially torn right meniscus, according to Ramona Shelburne. JB missed Boston's final three regular season games,
Starting point is 00:15:21 and with the injury, but was able to modify his game and play through the pain during the playoffs he will reportedly be evaluated this week to determine if surgery is necessary what you thinking joe meniscus it's not that bad but obviously anytime you have to go up under that knife oh i i hate it but you know he gutted it out i thought you know for him playing with a torn meniscus he you know he did he did everything he could man to help the seeds try to advance or repeat but it just wasn't enough uh no i just i hope i'll be good i hope boston in general just get healthy and uh able to you know come back back next year. Obviously, Tatum won't be there, but, you know, try to, man, make some good out of this.
Starting point is 00:16:10 But, yeah, this is very, very unfortunate for them. Well, the best thing, he and Tatum got their money. So that's something that's not at the front of their mind, like, damn, I just cost myself X. You got the contract, you straight. That's why I'm telling JT, bro, don't you rush back. You make sure you come back, and when you come back, you're the same JT
Starting point is 00:16:31 that we remember when you left. Nothing less. I know you're going to put the work in, but don't rush back. You don't have anything to prove. You're about to be a four-time first-team All-NBA selection. You've gone to the All-Star Game. You won two Olympic gold medals. And you won a championship.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Yeah. Is that true, though, Joe? Is that true? What? Just because he won a championship is the monkey off his back? He had nothing to prove? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:17:00 No, I didn't say he had everything to prove. I'm saying he don't have a reason to rush back. Oh, to rush back. Okay, okay. i see what you're saying i think uh i think especially in the game in basketball you know you're measured by your championships obviously you know they they done been there numerous of times but they did get one so yeah i don't think uh there's no pressure for him on the you know rush back or any of that. I just think, you know, you need to get healthy, get 100%,
Starting point is 00:17:26 then come back and, you know, try and do it all over again, man. But, you know, injuries are a part of the game. I know we hate them. And it's just very, very unfortunate, bro. It is. And that's the thing, you know. And, like, we talked about Joe. Kevin Durant took 18 months.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Remember, he tore his Achilles in 2019, in June of 2019. He didn't play that season. He didn't play. And remember, he didn't play that season. And in the start, it was the bubble. He didn't play that. And then he didn't really come back until later. And KD looked like he had never missed a beat.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Yeah. Never missed a beat. But he didn't rush back. He was like, no, bro, y'all not finna rush me back. Y'all not finna put me back out there, and I'm not ready to play, and I'll re-injure this thing. So I think that's the thing for me, and that's why I'm telling him, Ocho, no. I'm not saying he's like, listen,
Starting point is 00:18:19 the thing about pro sports is that you have to update your resume. You don't get the resume, oh, I did this, and no, no, you're not straight. Because every year you play, you're out there for a reason. You're trying to prove something. If not only to yourself, you're trying to prove something. Yeah. So you don't get to say, well, I won a championship five years ago. Okay, and?
Starting point is 00:18:40 You still playing now, so what are you playing for? If you're not trying to win a championship, what are you playing for? So with that being said, I just think the thing is for him i just wanted to get 100 healthy and then come back and be jason tatum that we remember the last thing in my mind i saw about jason tatum before i saw him crumple on the floor he had 42 yeah That's what I remember. He was balling. 42. He was balling. Right. Nice. Yeah, he'll get back there. I think he'll get back to 100%.
Starting point is 00:19:11 He'll get back to the player that he's accustomed to being. You know, the one thing, you get out there with an injury, man, you can't move the way you're accustomed to move and do the things that you're accustomed to doing. Like, that's frustrating. So, I'm with you. Take your time heal yourself up strengthen your body get your mind right and come back and get back to it
Starting point is 00:19:32 because the injuries like ocho somebody telling you ocho you can't have fun man stop the antics playing football ocho tuck your jersey ocho get rid of the orange train strap, Ocho. So that's like a player. He's used to being one way. Jason Tatum is used to being great. Now all of a sudden, he rushes back, and then he's not what we remember. That's what really does mess with a player, a professional athlete mentally, when I can't do what I once could. That's why it sucks getting old.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Man, I remember, whew, I can't do what I once could. That's why it sucks getting old. Man, I remember, whoo, I can't do none of what, whoo, all you have is memories. Nah, that ain't good enough. That's not good enough for the great. Now, if you just, you know, you play and you play a sport, and I'm not trying to diminish anybody,
Starting point is 00:20:21 but obviously there are levels. But when you're that great, it's hard not to be that great especially when you're still in your 20s now he get 40 I mean it's tough for LeBron even though LeBron is still playing at elite level he knows that he can't do what he did when he was
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Starting point is 00:25:50 y'all might want to write this down. You'll never understand the value of a moment until it becomes a memory. And we ain't talk about force. Yeah. Force for any and everything you're doing. Chat, y'all might want to write that down. You hear me?
Starting point is 00:26:03 Write it down. Yeah, it's Sunday now. I'm a priest to you. Write it back one more time so they can get it right. But never understand the value of a moment, because we didn't all have moments until that moment becomes a memory, and all you can do is just think about it. Hello.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Listen, I ain't going to pass the offer and play it around. Hello. Hello. Isn't it funny how time just slip on away? Talk to me. Bro. Make your time. Get up in the middle of the night and go to the bathroom and everything hurt.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Knees, ankle, back, hips. Hey, if I didn't have so much pride, I'd get me one of them old gooses. And I'd lay put the step step to the side of my bed. But you know, I got too much pride for that, Joe. You know, I got to get my ass up and go to the bathroom. But it hurts.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Man, my prostate the size of this cup. I ain't done. Man, I go to the bathroom and I lay down on one side. I'm like, Lord, I know I ain't got to go back to the bathroom and I lay down on one side I'm like lord I know I ain't got to go back to the bathroom again now hey one thing
Starting point is 00:27:12 come on them days are coming yes and I tell people all the time it sucks getting old but it beats the alternative I'm telling you that's a good one
Starting point is 00:27:24 hold on you done gave a bar'm telling you that's a good one hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on black and you done gave a bar right there boy you should be a battle rapper that was a bar yeah hold on hey bring that to me one more time yeah it sucks it does suck getting old yeah it beats the alternative i'm trying to use that on Twitter I mean something Man look The thing is when you Is young You just felt like
Starting point is 00:27:49 Like everyday You just felt so good And you can bounce back quick What? You can bounce back game quick Yeah yeah yeah Cause hey When I was in my 20s
Starting point is 00:27:59 I used to be able to You know And now Boom boom boom Yeah hey Boy It didn't matter That wasn't me In my teens Twenties Thirties be able to, you know, and now boom, boom, boom. Yeah, hey, boy. It didn't matter. That wasn't me in my teens, twenties, thirties. I just got older.
Starting point is 00:28:15 One gone. That's it. All I do is just look at the years that they passed me by now. Hey, hey, when you was growing up, you remember saying, that's my car. That's my car. I remember that. That's what I do now.
Starting point is 00:28:33 That was my year. That's my year. You got to understand, huh? Now, we went from being young, right, and saying, that's my car. That's my car. To being able to go and get that car, that car. Yeah. And then the funny thing about it is when you're young, that's my car to being able to go and get that car that car yeah and then
Starting point is 00:28:45 the funny thing about it is when you're young you had people take care of you when you were an infant then you get to a point where you can take care of yourself
Starting point is 00:28:53 and then on the back end you're back at a point where you need somebody to take care of you again yeah it's funny how life works ain't it yeah
Starting point is 00:29:01 yep we all gotta do it my grandma said boy we all gotta do it one day we all gotta do it the big three is beginning play in the 2025 on a new city-based model season eight tips off june 14th at the all-state arena in chicago on cbs for 10 weeks of premier three-on-three basketball action. Joe, tell us what we can expect this year from the three-on-three tournament. Hey, look, if you want to see a show, you want to see some great basketball, you want to see some guys in some shape compete at a high level,
Starting point is 00:29:42 you come watch the big three. Come watch specifically the Detroit Amps. Man, we're're not gonna be playing no silly games you hear me okay ojo yeah when we touch the flow man we putting on a show man i'm not playing you hear me three things we don't do we don't play we don't play and we do not play yeah yeah we're bringing it baby we bringing it hold on who your team uh we got myself uh jeremy pargo okay we got big d block he's our center our big man and we just got two dogs out the draft and shakur stevenson and uh and what's my other, Ray, a dude named Ray. I forgot Ray's last name. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:30:28 But we got some dogs. Nixon? Huh? Ray Nixon? Ray Nixon. So we got some athleticism, some dogs, some dudes who are going to compete. I think at the end of the day, when me and Jeremy and D-Block kind of sat down and discussed, and George Girvin, Iceman,
Starting point is 00:30:45 who's the coach. We discussed on what we needed as a team and what was going to ultimately get us over the top and get us to a championship. And we came up with those two guys. We ended up getting the two guys who we wanted. So it's going to be a special season for us. So y'all
Starting point is 00:31:01 tune in, man. Make sure y'all tune in. We're going to check it out. I'm going to check it out. We're going to be coming. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We're going to check it out. I'm going to check it out. I'm going to a game. Now, Detroit ain't too far away from Miami, too. Now, Joe, when you think about it,
Starting point is 00:31:12 y'all talk about what y'all need as a team to get y'allself over the top and compete for a championship, you know, and in the big three. Y'all need an extra set of legs, an extra body or something? Oh, no, no.
Starting point is 00:31:24 We good. We good, bro. We good. We good. We good. We good, bro. We good. We good. We good. We good. Joe? Yeah. Man, I want to say, it's Gilly. Who picked up Gilly? I don't think nobody picked up Gilly, but he was at the combine. They say he was putting in some work, too.
Starting point is 00:31:37 He was? Hey, Damien Giller? Yeah, Damien Giller. Hey, look, Gilly got some game, though. He does. He can play. I respect Gilly. He be talking crazy to folk. Yeah, yeah. He be. Hey, look, Gilly got some game, though. He does. He can play. I respect Gilly. They be talking crazy to folk. Yeah, yeah. He be barking up the wrong tree sometimes.
Starting point is 00:31:51 He like Ocho a little bit. Whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no, no. Hold on. Time out. Time out. Don't do that. Don't do that. Listen, I love Gilly.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I love everything Gilly does. When Gilly touch that court, boy, Gilly can play some ball now. I can come off the bench. How many NBA teams is it right now? 30. It's 30 NBA teams, Joe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Right now, at 47, Joe, I can come off the bench for any team right now and contribute. You can't do that, Ocho. What you talking about, boy? What's your best attribute? Give me your best attribute.
Starting point is 00:32:23 What's your best attribute? What you do? What you do what? My best attribute? Give me your best attribute. What's your best attribute? What you do? What you do with? My best attribute? Lying. Nah. I'm saying, hey, look, if I go to the squad, Ocho, I'm like, hey, look, I got Ocho. I need to be able to give him description of what it is, or descriptive of what it is that you do.
Starting point is 00:32:43 What is it that you do? Matter of fact, see, that's the thing, though. That's the thing, Joe. That's what makes me so special on the court, Joe. You can't even describe what I'm going to bring to the team. I'm efficient, right? I'm efficient. One-on-one, I can put the ball on the floor.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Anybody you put on me is a mismatch. You can't even really double that. You can't really double, because if you double, you just got to kick that bitch out. We got to make sure everybody else hit their shot. Now, somebody like me coming out the bench like I'm up tell you I'm a mixture of Russell Westbrook and D Rose and his prime like that's how I play So if y'all bring me in the big I'm telling you then not only am I gonna put bus in the seats
Starting point is 00:33:17 I'm gonna put up points Okay, okay, you ain't gotta pay me cuz I got like 50 some dumb job. Okay money And you ain't even got to pay me because I got like 57,000 jobs. Okay. I don't need no money. I just want an opportunity. Okay. I got it. But see, he was talking so fast, Joe.
Starting point is 00:33:30 You didn't hear what he said. He said he'd be efficient. He made him say efficient. He said efficient. But you missed that part, but don't worry about it. Joe, never forget, Joe, when I was in high school, every Saturday I dropped 56, 12, and 10. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Every Saturday? We played on Saturdays in high school. Man, now in high school. You play a couple times a week in high school, right, Joe? In high school, we play on Tuesdays and Fridays, man. And Saturday, them little boy games, man. I didn't say no little boy games. I played class 6A.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I told you Ash Udonis about me. Ash Udonis. Ask Ash Udonis about me. I did him in high school. I'll kill her. The team playing on Saturday, man. That's like junior high ball, bro. That's like that's a beat, Ojo. Hey, Joe. Joe.
Starting point is 00:34:19 He only peaked one day. Sometimes we play three times a week. Sometimes we play like Monday or we'll play a Tuesday a week. Sometimes we play, we play, we play like Monday or we'll play a Tuesday and we play Friday or we'll play Friday, Saturday game. But we play sometimes two to three times a week. We just didn't have no one day a week to play. Hey, listen to me, Joe. I play in Miami sometime, right? I play in Miami in open locker, right? I'd be at Pepper Paul, right? I'd be out there with my boy, you know, I'd be out there with my Zo zoes and my yanks we'd be out there having a good time you know i go out there joe just as a
Starting point is 00:34:48 tune-up as a part for me you know i go out there you know run by six seven games and never come off the court you win them all you wait i never come off the court you know the game go to 11 i'm giving you six every game man six. Give me six every game. Hey, they say a lot. I don't care who tell it, dude. One thing about it, listen, the fat lady ain't seen yet. Nah, we were the 15.
Starting point is 00:35:14 We were the 15. Ocho Lem was the one on one. The first game is the 15. All the games are the 15. No, no, no. The first game, when everybody comes to the park, the first game, the 15.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Every game after that, it's 11. That's why every time you say, I want to play Joe, we're going to go to 11, because I know he ain't going to make it to 15. But I thought that was a one-on-one. That's what the one-on-one is, the 11. I thought everything else. Listen, Joe is handicapped when it comes to playing against me.
Starting point is 00:35:42 That's why I'm going to 11. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. How I'm handicapped playing against you? You're too slow. Oh. Joe, you don't understand how quick I am. Joe, this ain't no joke. What? Man, listen.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Joe, this ain't no joke. What? We're going to have to get this thing here jumping. Hey, I don't need it. You're going to have excuses. The first thing they'll say, oh, man, it's time to play. I told them I'd come to Atlanta. First thing they'll say,
Starting point is 00:36:07 oh, I came today. I got to be with the wife. Oh, I came today. I got to walk the dog. You're going to have all types of excuses. I guarantee you. No, I'm going to make sure. I'm going to hit my people over there
Starting point is 00:36:16 for the Hawks. I'm going to make sure we get the practice facility so we can go in there and get on. It ain't going to be... We going in the gym? Yeah, we going in the gym. What you mean? I want to
Starting point is 00:36:25 play outside i'm in a concrete tube it's too hard on your knee oh there you go there we go there we go there we go hey he done grew up in buckingham palace he don't want to play outside hey he done grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth hey Hey, Joe, you got a problem with roaches? Like, does that bother you? Does roaches bother you? Yeah. Yeah, see? Yeah, it's a bougie-ass nigga, man.
Starting point is 00:36:55 He don't want to hoop, man. He done gone Hollywood. Hey, anybody that say they got a property, they don't want to hoop. CD Lab was talking about George Pickens and said, we're both ones. Ocho, are the Cowboys going to be a problem? Ain't they going to be a problem because I told you they was both ones. That's why I said what I said.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Now, what everybody can do, they can't take out their head on vision. They thinking about everything pickens was doing when he was in pittsburgh i would be ready to now i'm not talking about the loafing i'm not talking about the lack of blocking and i'm not talking about being lazy on certain plays which cause interceptions i'm talking about being in a new environment a new scenery with a nice great with a good quarterback a top quarterback that can get you the ball and they're going to use him. They're going to use him. There's not going to be no problems.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And he's telling the truth. The goddamn Bengals got two number ones. The Philadelphia Eagles got two number ones. Hell, even the Commanders now got two number ones. Even though some people don't see Debo Sam as a one, but he do so goddamn much. He might as well be a fucking one. They're going to be alright. I'm telling you,
Starting point is 00:38:07 the Cowboys, listen, I know the Eagles won the Super Bowl last year, but if the Cowboys win the division, I'm the first one to say it. I'm the first one to say it. Look at what offensively, look at what Saquon Barkley did for
Starting point is 00:38:23 the Cowboys from an offensive perspective. Yeah, but who is that Saquon? I'm not mentioning him right now. I'm saying to counter that, to counter that, I'm saying Pickens are going to take it up and make up even more of the production on the other side. That's all I'm saying. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:38:40 You done watched Nick take a six-yard slant 70. Yeah. You done watched him catch 60 take a six-yard slant 70. Yeah. You done watched them catch 60 or 70-yard bombs. You know, CD going slicing dice out there. Obviously, hey, CD Lamb. He's rock. He's yak. He's rap.
Starting point is 00:38:55 You know? I mean, he can go deep, too. But he make his money short near the median and turn him into long balls. Listen, it's hard for me to explain, but you'll see when it happens. And one thing about a football joke, I'll never be wrong. So you're saying them Cowboys are going to be like that this year? They're going to be like that offensively. Now, what they do on defense, I don't know nothing about that.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I don't know nothing about that, but I can tell you what's going to happen offensively. You got to pick a point, then we're going to stop. But go ahead. Michael Parsons tweeted CD done found a new best friend. Mack Wilson Sr. music has taken
Starting point is 00:39:42 the internet by storm. Rockin' Ship, Mack's stage name has become a hit online. And with a full EP dropping Friday, the 27-year-old linebacker was asked a critical question, Super Bowl or Grammy? Super Bowl, bro. I'd rather win the Super Bowl. I love rapping as well. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:40:02 But it doesn't take away from my passion I have for the game. Mack Wilson. Who he play for? Cardinals. What year is this for him, Mark? 27, so probably his fourth or fifth. So he's going to drop that hour. Who that?
Starting point is 00:40:20 Yeah. He got a full LP. You got EP up there. EP. Live, I mean, Grammy or Super Bowl? I mean, if you're in football, I mean, well, I mean, Nathaniel's kind of hard because he's doing both. I mean, normally a football player, you know, like Kobe, I think the first one meant a lot.
Starting point is 00:40:51 But, you know, when Kobe won the Oscar for that animation of Dear Basketball, I had never seen him. I don't know if I've seen him that happy when he won his first championship. I've never seen nobody, I've never seen a player more excited about retirement than I saw Kobe I saw him at an event I think Quincy Jones would get the honor and I went to an event and got an opportunity to sit and talk to him
Starting point is 00:41:15 I ain't never seen nobody so happy and his passion he was as passionate about that animation and what he was doing as he was basketball and I can see why he won an Oscar and I can see why he was doing as he was basketball. Yeah. And I can see why he won an Oscar. And I can see why he was going to do big things in the film industry because that same passion that he had, that same burning desire,
Starting point is 00:41:33 the unquenchable thirst, he had it for that. Yeah. And that's why, that's why people are successful. That's why a lot of times people that are, that are like professional athletes or people that are successful in one business become successful in other business. Because when you're passionate about something, you're passionate about it and you go all in. And so when you're passionate about something, you're not concerned about the hours that you got to work. You're not tired from doing it.
Starting point is 00:42:02 You're just doing it because that's your passion. And you feel that my passion will be rewarded at the end of the day i don't know when ain't no time nearly no no one month or no five months no year all i know is that this hard work is going to pay off and you know what else when it comes when it comes to stuff like when people love opening businesses or like to say oh i want to open a business or i want to do something but when they're looking they're looking for a quick turnaround too huh quick turnaround there's no quick turnaround to success at all and then no those that take shortcuts it's short-lived it's all it's always short-lived but when you're passionate about something and you're willing to put the work in even if it's a slow process or it's a slow grind
Starting point is 00:42:42 whatever it is because you're passionate about it you know at some point that work is going to pay off. Going to pay off. It always does, Joe. It does. Everything you do, it always pays off. It might take a month. It might take a year. Hell, it might take five.
Starting point is 00:42:56 But because it's something you like and you continue to pour in it, and as you continue to pour in it, at some point, when you pour a glass, when you pour too much water in the glass, at one point it'll do what, huh? Old flow. Hey, listen, I agree with both of you. I think, you know, as professional athletes, we have an obsession of what it is that we do, whether it's football, basketball, whatever the case may be.
Starting point is 00:43:23 And once you're done, it's hard to turn that off. So you take that obsession obsession you take it into the business world whether you start a podcast whether you open up a yoga studio or whatever the case may be and that's the thing that kind of keeps you going you know what i mean you understand what it takes to kind of get to that next level what it is you're trying to do and nope it's not gonna happen overnight it's gonna take some time it's gonna take some nurturing you're trying to do. And nope, it's not going to happen overnight. It's going to take some time. It's going to take some nurturing. You're going to have to baby it.
Starting point is 00:43:47 You're going to have to water it. You're going to have to watch it grow. And that's just a part of it. And, you know, being a, as I used to be a professional athlete, that's the only thing I did. I went from playing ball, took everything I learned from basketball as far as having to heal myself and know how to take care of myself and just brought it into the yoga world.
Starting point is 00:44:06 And man, I've been running ever since, bro. I like it. I like it. You know, another small example too, I'm thinking about this too. We talk about passion,
Starting point is 00:44:13 you know, and things that you like to do. Hell, I love to talk. I love to talk. You know, sometimes I don't make no sense of what I'm talking about based on the goddamn topic.
Starting point is 00:44:22 But let's take nightcap for instance, right? Yeah. Shit, you hit me. I come to LA. Shit, if I love to talk, shit, being on nightcap, oh, that's perfect.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Let's talk about journey. Let's talk about having a passion for something, right? Sometimes it's high. Sometimes it's low. You know? Yeah. When things aren't going well, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Like I told you, we don't weather the storm that's it okay there's a crack well shit we get some goddamn gorilla goo nigga pass that bitch up and you keep on going that's it it's simple man and boy it to the wheels fall off man we gonna keep rolling. Yeah. And like most athletes, especially when you're good, they have discipline. Yeah. And when you start a business, you've got to have discipline. Yep. A lot of it.
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Starting point is 00:46:16 I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
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Starting point is 00:50:03 that's funny, though. Yeah, it is. I didn't ask you. As a matter of fact, I ain't going to let your ass go. Enough said. I'm done. Brody Burton said, Ocho's tattoos have all the names he owe money to. You do owe people money, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Hey, I don't owe nobody money, man. Nobody? I owe you $5,200. I promise you I'm going to nobody money, man. Nobody? I owe you $50,200. I promise you I'm going to get you your money. I promise you. But $50,200 a lot, man. How am I going to pay child support if I pay you? Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:50:36 They ain't got nothing to do with him. I got a new baby. I got some bills I need to pay, too. I told you, whatever you need, I got some bills I need to pay, too. I told you, whatever you need, I got. Midlife Tyson said, Ocho is Soulja Boy. He did everything first. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:50:55 That's true. King TL said, I believe Ocho. He walked with Dr. King. Salute. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy said, hey, fam, Ocho, how you bet people you already owe money to? Where they do that at? Doc, that's what I want to know. Hold on, Doc. My bet was with Joe. Joe owed me $100.
Starting point is 00:51:13 You tried to bet me? Let me try to throw me in there. I'm just saying. You at the gambling table, you re-rolling dice. Let me borrow $500. Hold on. You want to borrow $500 from me and then bet me? You want to fade me?
Starting point is 00:51:30 Hold on. Can I ask you something? Can I ask you something? And the people in the chat, y'all ever saw the movie The Gambler? Yes. Didn't he go back and ask the shark for more money after losing money already? See? I ain't do, I ain't do. You can't go to the bank,
Starting point is 00:51:46 borrow money, don't pay them back and then say you know what I'm going to pay you back with this next loan you give me yeah that's why you got to go to a different bank
Starting point is 00:51:53 a different location I'm going to put the word out on you don't bet Ocho Triple X got sanity OKC NPC will Ocho pay UNC? We'll see
Starting point is 00:52:07 Wolves in five He said Wolves in five? Wolves in five Damn, Ocho Brody Burns said WCF, Ocho Cinco Pico de Gallo Your ex
Starting point is 00:52:24 Wolves in five finals that don't matter Ant-Man Spider-Man Mission of Man Wolves in six Kill Move said top five NBA jerseys
Starting point is 00:52:39 past or present Jordan would be number one obviously right I don't think they're talking about numbers I think they're talking about like past, or present. Jordan would be number one, obviously, right? I don't think they're talking about numbers. I think they're talking about, like, like jerseys. Like the old school, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:56 I like the old Nuggets jerseys. I go old Nuggets. Gotta go, uh, old Phoenix, the black jerseys oh the suns suns the old black retro jerseys there's like two thousand yeah i like the miami heat i like the old uh the vice city yeah vice yeah yeah the miami vice jerseys uh what else I know? Old 76ers. Ain't nobody mentioned the Celtics or the Lakers? Man,
Starting point is 00:53:38 they just been playing. They ain't got nothing. They got, they got, I like the, if you want to do the purple, I like the purple Laker jerseys, the city editions. They need to, you know what they need to do?
Starting point is 00:53:49 They need to have, like, the NFL be having throwbacks, don't you? Yeah. The NBA need to have throwback jerseys. The old uniform. Yeah, yeah, wear the old jerseys. Yeah, that'll be hard. I like the Knits. The Knits old jerseys with the stars on the side.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Joe, you remember y'all had, what you call them? Y'all had y'all nicknames. They had the nicknames on the back of the jersey one time. Nickname game. We played against the Heat that time. Yeah, I remember that. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:54:16 NFL needs to do that, put nicknames. Yeah, they hadn't done that since. They sold a lot of jerseys. Yeah. Sheldon Pope said, was that a dirty file on caitlin clark dead on angel reese no that was a take file what you do you know angel reese doesn't shoot free throws well nothing cheap i'm a father you want those two points go to the free throw line and make it yeah nothing hey yeah i thought i thought it was a good hard, just a good hard. Good hard-ass foul.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Good hard foul. Man, we can't look. Guys, we can't make a big deal out of everything that happens between when these two teams get together. We can't. If Angel Reese fouls her, it can't be, oh, she did that because she don't like her. If Kaitlin fouls her, she did that because she, come on, man. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:55:07 It was a hard file yeah it was a good hard file too yes and and angel got up and reacted the way she did like what's wrong with you okay gave caitlin a flagrant one uh angel and and and a leah boston got for a text we keep it moving. Yeah, yeah. It's not that big of a deal. It's good. I don't care. Yeah, I don't care what happens. Y'all not going to make, I don't have to choose one or the other.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I can like them both. Yeah. And I think people are trying to make you choose one. Well, if you like Caitlyn, you got to hate Angel Reese. If you like Angel, you got to hate Caitlyn. No, I don't. Yeah. Adab
Starting point is 00:55:47 Smith said, I promise you, nobody is worried about the Cowgirls. Same team that had more talent two years ago with nine Pro Bowlers and got smacked by the Packers. True. Kemper Norwood Jr. said, my question, start, bench, cut, John Elway,
Starting point is 00:56:03 Fade Manning, Tom Brady. I'm starting Elway because I ain't winning nothing with them other two guys. Peyton played for the Broncos. I will bench him. Sorry, Tom. Tom, gotta go? Tom, gotta go.
Starting point is 00:56:22 I belong to the song. I'm picking the Broncos. I don't know what y'all thought I was going to do with Selma. Y'all thought to go? Y'all got to go? I belong to the song. I'm picking the Broncos. I don't know what y'all thought I was going to do with Selma. Y'all thought I was going to bench him or cut him? No. Casey Taylor said, if you know ball, this is a good one. Start, bench, cut. Ricky Williams, Killian Portters, CJ2K.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Ocho, who you got? Ricky Williams, Clinton Porters, CJ2K. I'm starting CJ2K. Okay. Okay. I'm a bench Clinton, and I'm a cut Rick. Okay. What you going to do, Joe? Say it again.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Who is CJ2K? Y'all don't even know who that is. Chris Johnson. Played with Tennessee. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I do know who that is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:26 That boy, he was a bad boy. Yeah, for sure. So you can start. Ricky Williams. Bench cut. Ricky Williams. What you going to do with Ricky? Man.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Yeah, I'm going gonna go with uh I'm going with Chris Johnson start Chris I'm going uh I got Ricky coming off the bench damn I got the I got the Clint Porter's man
Starting point is 00:58:01 Clint Porter's bad boy man yeah I played with Paul for two years Clint Porter's man Clint Porter's bad boy man yeah I played with Paul for two years Clint Porter's a bad boy that's a tough one Kayvon Davis said
Starting point is 00:58:14 what's good and Ocho currently deployed in the mid east what's y'all favorite sitcoms of all time oh that's easy Sanford and Son
Starting point is 00:58:22 Sanford and Son and Good Times Good Times Good Times Two and a Half Men Hey Wait which Golden Girls Which Two and a Half Men
Starting point is 00:58:33 With Charlie Sheen Yep Oh okay Yep Now remember What's the name Took over After
Starting point is 00:58:40 Ashton Kutcher Yeah Y'all say Them y'all favorite sitcoms? Yeah, Good Times and Sanford and Son. Sanford and Son, Good Times, Two and a Half Men, Golden Girls, and I'm going Martin. Yeah, Martin. Fresh Prince, and I'll probably go Jamie
Starting point is 00:59:06 Jamie Foxx Big Mike said TV show gladiators who will win between y'all y'all remember the gladiators used to come on I remember gladiators yeah I remember that I remember that gladiators that was that was dope i watched a whole little backstory behind that too yeah on the stuff they had to go through yeah oh man i'm i dust ocho with some gladiator stuff ain't no way i know i dust him with some gladiator that man ain't man play
Starting point is 00:59:41 hey hey you laughing a little bit too loud Hey can I ask you a question Unc Yeah How Joe gonna beat me in anything competitive When it comes to gladiator sports right And he at his own sport Make it make sense You don't say he a gladiator
Starting point is 00:59:58 Hey listen Football Football that's a gladiator sport Basketball That's's a gladiator sport basketball that's not a gladiator sport i agree it's not a gladiator sport but it don't matter i'm gonna joe say he a gladiator though he not he not if it was a gladiator he would play me one-on-one by now joe you have to just you know you have to dust the nikes off and put it on the joke oh Joe timing is everything okay I ain't even gotta dust these things off
Starting point is 01:00:27 they ready I'm back yeah I ain't Joe say the season by the start so be ready alright listen it sound good
Starting point is 01:00:37 yeah okay so think about this how about this though Joe you play you play the two right I play whatever you need me to play what's up so I'm saying if me and you was out let's say we was at the two right I played whatever you need me to play what's up so I'm saying let's say we was at the heat right
Starting point is 01:00:48 hypothetically speaking and it came down to me and you on the heat wanting to keep who you thinking they gonna cut they cutting the shit out of you you gone I go talk to Spoh and Mickey Neal, they cut you
Starting point is 01:01:06 right off the top. He didn't even thought. Hey, think about this. Hey, Joe, think about this, Joe. How Pat Riley gonna cut me? He know I'm gonna get him 28 off the bench every night. Nah, he ain't going. He ain't dealing with that foolishness you bring, Ocho. Pat ain't dealing with...
Starting point is 01:01:22 Look, they got pre-practice, practice. They got something before the pre-practice. I'm going to be at all of them. Listen, I have a passion for the game, any game I'm playing. So I'm going to be at practice. I'm going to be the first one in, last one out. That's how I approach the game.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Now I'm going to have a little fun while the game going on. No, you can't have no fun down there. Ain't going to be no fun. What you mean you're going to have some fun while the game. Now I'm going to have a little fun while the game going on. No, you can't have no fun down there. Ain't going to be no fun. What you mean you're going to have some fun while the game going on? When I play the game, I play like Jason Williams.
Starting point is 01:01:50 I'm passing the ball off my elbow and all. I ain't going. I ain't going. All right. All right. That concludes this episode of Nightcap.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Y'all know me. I am your favorite on Shannon Sharp, my partner and co-host who got his swiper to wipe it as forward. It must be really hot in Texas. It ain't hot.
Starting point is 01:02:10 That's, uh... It ain't hot. I'm at the cigar bar, baby. I mean, it's smoking. I'm telling you, catch a flight out here tomorrow. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And our basketball correspondents, Joe Johnson, ISO Joe, Arkansas alum, Little Rock native. Joe, again,
Starting point is 01:02:29 great job. Thanks for joining us. Please make sure you go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys. Thank you for listening. Thank you for watching, for downloading, sharing, whatever the case may be. Ocho and I,
Starting point is 01:02:45 now Joe, we can't thank you enough for your support of Nightcap. Please make sure you check out Chez Balaportier, the best tasting VSOP on the market. If you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my media company page on all of its platforms, Shea Shea Media and my clothing company, 84 with 84 being spelled out. The link is pinned in the chat. Supplies are limited, and once they're gone, they're gone. Tickets for our Not Safe for Work Tour are on sale.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Baltimore, Philly, Charlotte, L.A., Miami, NYC, Chicago, and Detroit. Tickets can be found at SheaSheaMedia.com slash tour. That's SheaSheaMedia.com slash tour. That's SheaSheaMedia.com slash tour. Go get your tickets now and support Uncle Nocho. The Thunder advanced to the Western Conference Finals thanks to a 125-93
Starting point is 01:03:36 victory over the Denver Nuggets. Shea was sensational. 33 points, three steals, 3-4 from the three-point line, plus 32. Jalen Williams also tripped in with 24. Chet Holmgren had 13. But Alex Caruso did a great job to play the boxing one on Jokic, and he did a great job of harassing him.
Starting point is 01:03:55 He had 11 points in 26 minutes, plus 40, plus minus. They advance. First game will be Tuesday night. Don't they play Tuesday against Minnesota? Tuesday night against the Minnesota Timberwolves for the chance to advance to the NBA Finals to take on the winner, the Knicks, Indiana Pacers. Thank you guys for joining us, and we'll see you. Hey, we gone? Hey, Joe.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Hey, Joe, come to Houston tomorrow. What's going on in Houston? Hey, I'm going to bring you to the den. We can smoke as a guy. And then we can go play one-on-one at the Rockets Arena. We're going to do that another day, Ocho. There you go, Ducky. There you go, Ducky.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Ocho, Ocho, I got things to do. I can't come. Hey, Ocho, what I told you. I told you I'm going to do it. I can't come. He's going to make excuses. No, look, y'all going to be in Atlanta soon I'm going to catch you
Starting point is 01:04:49 and then Tommy Houston is right down the street I'm trying to take you to Eric 29 Ocho I ain't got time tomorrow to come tomorrow
Starting point is 01:04:55 I can't do that revisit well I tell you boy I tell you boy thank you guys for joining us he's Ocho he's Iso Joe
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