Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 2: Giannis REQUESTS TRADE from Bucks + Jae Crowder RIPS Doc Rivers + LeBron EMOTIONAL over TRIBUTE Video + Browns HIRE Ravens OC Todd Munken + Bills PROMOTE Joe Brady to Head Coach

Episode Date: January 29, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Giannis Antetokounmpo possibly being traded from the Milwaukee Bucks before the trade deadline, Jae Crowder rips Doc Rivers saying that the Giannis trade rumors happened after Doc arrived, and LeBron James tears up during Cleveland Cavaliers tribute and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Potential trade for Giannis could be happening ahead of deadline22:22 - Jae Crowder rips Doc Rivers24:54 - LeBron tears up over tribute video34:22 - Browns hire Raven’s OC Todd Munken as 11th head coach43:00 - Bills promoted OC Joe Brady as HC50:05 - Broncos part ways with OC, WR and CB coaches54:18 - Q & Aaayyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Sean's report, Yonis is ready for a new home and the trade deadline or in the offseason as several rival teams make aggressive offers for the Milwaukee Bucks and for him. The franchise is starting to listen. Sean gave an additional background during the report inside the NBA, listening the Nix Warrior Heat Timberwolves as potential landing spot for Yannis. In September 2020, Yonis says his future lies in Milwaukee and that he wouldn't try to push his way to a new destination. It's not happening.

That's not happening. Some will some see a wall and go another direction. I'll ply through it. We just have to get better as a team. individually and get back, get back at it next season. He also said, this is what he said after winning a championship. It is easy to go somewhere else and go win a championship with somebody else. It's easy.

I could go to a super team, but I just do my part and win a championship. But this is hard the way I do it and the way to do it and the way we did it. F did it, man. We're talking real spicy. I hear him I hear him talking didn't he just sign with a

I think he did I think didn't he just trying with Rick Paul? Yeah yeah yeah so

he ain't going he may not come out per se Uncle and Ocho and say you know he want to be traded rich gonna be the bad guy

and he already been the bad guy so there ain't no problem for him that one time to tell you hold on Joe Joe

I didn't I tell y'all he was getting traded a long time ago Well, we knew that because we heard the whistle. We just don't know where he's going yet. Yeah, I mean, well, I'm not going to just, I don't want to mess up my source, but go ahead. I'm going to let you all finish.

You still, you think he's going to the heat? I'm saying the heat, the heat is in the running. The talks are happening behind closed doors. I'm not sure if they're going to be able to put a package together to get him because of the package that they're going to put together. We ain't going to have no goddamn bench. Y'all, y'all may get Jai, Ocho, but y'all ain't going to get Yons. I'm with Unk.

I think, I think Yon is going to go to New York. York. Yonis over there. They, they, they's cat, cat and Yonis swap. That's going to be one of, that's one of them. And about three, about three first riders and about three picks swap, first rider than three pick swaps. Yeah, but I definitely think he, I definitely think he's going to get out of Milwaukee.

Considering that he didn't change Asians, uncoe. Yeah, you know what that means. The writing on the wall, Joe. But you see, you have to be careful. You see. The thing that I like most about. LeBron and Kevin Durant. Don't give a damn what people say.

See, Yonnis cares about what people say. That's why he's trying to do it this way, because he don't want to be the bad guy. He don't want to be the bad guy. Now, everybody crushed LeBron for leaving Cleveland and going to Miami. Everybody killed Kevin Durant for leaving O'KC and going to the Warriors.

Each guy believed that they couldn't win a championship there as the roster was currently constructed. So they left. and everybody ripped them. I'm trying to figure out how everybody got on board for Yonis. Because he said he didn't want to be no super team. He said he didn't want to go nowhere. That's what he's saying.

I'm just saying what he said. Now, if it's a lie, he told it. Now, what's the difference? I think if I like it, Joe, whatever you do, I can see no wrong in it. Go ahead, Joe. I think, you know, he was a little excited, unc out of him. moment. They had won a championship. And I think he, you know, his emotions just kind of got the best of them. You know, you just go to talking and rambling. But you can't, you don't know,

you don't know, you know, what your future holds two, three years down the line after you win a title or you playing on these great teams, so to speak. It's a lot can happen in a year, man. You know what I mean? So, uh, I'm, I'm looking forward to a shakeup in the NBA. I think the NBA needs it, man. We need a good shake-up. Hopefully he goes, wherever he goes, okay, Ojo, they're probably going to be picked to win it. I'm just going to keep it real.

The boy talented. Oh, yeah, for sure. He's talented. He's going to bring some positives to whatever team he go to. Man, if he go to New York, they're going to. But look at Miles Turner, like, bro, I came to play with you and less than a year, you out. Real walking said, say, we did everything we could.

Hey, we brought in Dane for you. We messed up our stuff. We gave up what we gave up to try to get you. They screwed. You need a guy like this, it takes years to recover. You got to get a little lucky. Because ain't nothing like that coming through that though, no time soon. Well, no time soon.

Collectively, collectively, it just depends on what you get back. You get a couple players who can keep you afloat, keep you at least top six in the east, seven in the east, have you to where you still competing. You don't want to plummet, and now you ain't even in the playing. You know what I mean?

You still want to compete. I think the thing is like with Cleveland, when Braun left, you look at all the first round picks that they, and it's because the thing is is that you don't want him to leave for nothing. See KD,

what KD kind of crippled OKC is because when he left, they didn't get nothing. Probably had they known maybe you trade him, But you're hoping that you can resign him. Well, LeBron leaves and these guys like this leaves

and you don't get draft compensation. You don't get, you know, a couple of quality players and some first round draft picks. You do. You do. Yeah. Because the NBA is unlike the NFL is a superstar-driven league. One player can really change everything.

Everything. Yep. Absolutely. So you really, you really, like, if you get them, that's why they have, they carry so much weight. That's why they have so much clout. That's why teams give in to these guys. They're talking about, oh, you know,

cludge got too much control. Y'all gave into that because y'all know you're going to LeBron. You know what comes along with that. You know what comes along with having a Kobe. Rest is so. You know what comes along with having a LeBron or Janus or KD. You know what comes along with it. Don't pretend now.

Yeah. They want to leave or something. It's time, you know, now all of a sudden, We didn't know you knew. You knew what comes along with players like that. I can only imagine because I know how it is for a quarterback. The Brady is in the top tier quarterbacks. I can only imagine what a little superstar

because you got only 15 players. You got 53 guys. You got the mold and Joel and make sure everybody's on. And NBA that ain't in it. Got 13 guys. Oh Joe, you know good well. Our best friends and all that stuff ain't getting to come anytime they want to, they ain't get no key to no, they can't do whatever they want to.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, hey, we ain't signing your brother neither. Man, exactly. So if they trade yon, if they got to trade his brother with it. Oh, that's a, that's a package deal. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a combo. Burger and fries.

Yeah, we charge you $8, whether you get the fries or not, so you might as well get it. So you get this combo, you get the burger, and Coke for $8 or you don't have to take the Coke and you don't have to take the fries, but you still getting charged $8. Ain't no price, ain't nothing off. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. But I just look, I don't begrudge, you honest.

I just think the thing is that, you know, he's, it's easy to say those things, Joe and Ocho, when things are going good. See, now he's come to the realization, man, that can't get nobody. Ain't nobody wanting to say, you know what, let me go to Milwaukee in free agency. Not anybody good. You got Miles Turner because I don't know, I guess Miles felt he felt some type of way about Indy, you know, reports on it.

They gave him give Indy chance to match or anything. I don't think Indy was going to match that. They gave him a nice little bag to come over out of Milwaukee. But you let me ask you a question. If he thought Yonis was going to leave, you think he took that? Nope. Absolutely not.

I don't know. I think he probably, I think, obviously he wanted to play with Yonis, but to get his money, Uncle Ocho, yeah, he probably, yeah. He would have to win anyway? Yeah, he ought to get his money. But he got to got his money somewhere else. I don't know. He got like a hundred and something.

108, got like 108. I mean, he could have got that 108 elsewhere. If he knew Yonis was leaving. I believe Indiana would have gave him something close to that. Maybe not 108, maybe 100. Maybe 100. Maybe 98. I think with Halliburg getting hurt, they kind of drilled everything.

They kind of had going. But guess what, Hallibur is going to come back. When Yonis leave, Yonis ain't coming back. And if he does, he does, won't be there. They can, Indiana can trade for him and bring it back. They can bring buddy back to Indiana. But it's, the thing is, when you're in these markets, I can see if he's in New York,

he was in Chicago, he was in L.A. It's easier to get free agents to come to those cities than it is. You ain't get nobody to come to Milwaukee. You're not getting, LeBron could get, LeBron was at the apex of his powers in Cleveland. And he couldn't get anybody. Yeah. And for whatever reason, guys, I don't know why people don't want to go to Miami. Katie.

What you mean? How many chances had Katie had to go to Miami, Joe. And they went yet. Yeah, he had a couple times. Man, look, you know, Pat running a tight ship over there. I know. You know, you got, you know, them dudes you're talking about megastars. They want to bring their security.

They bring, yeah, they, they trade. And Pat ain't having it. He ain't having all that. Yeah, he ain't having it. You want your trainer to travel with him? No, we ain't doing all that. He can meet us in the next city. Yeah.

We ain't doing all that. Randy, Randy travel. Yeah. A bronze chief of staff? I've never seen Braun without Randy. Right. Me neither. They're cool people to me.

Oh, yeah, they're good people. They're good people. It's just, uh, he got to. And the hardest thing I think, Joe, you can tell. Let me know what you think about this. Coming to the realization that I can no longer win here, no matter how great I am, I can't win a championship in Milwaukee again.

Yeah, I mean, he's won a championship. He won him a title. So him moving around or getting traded to another team, I don't think it's that bad, honestly. I know if you're a Milwaukee fan or if you live in Milwaukee, you don't want him to go. but I think it's time for him to move on. And yes, I think Honest has, I mean, Janus has come to the realization that we just not that team that we used to be.

We just not a downed team anymore. No matter if he's scoring 35 a night, 16 rebound, none of that matters. We're not getting done. No. So I think it is. I think he has realized that, which is why he has switched agents. And you can kind of see the writing on the wall. Joe, and I think the thing is like

when they let Holiday go He's like, hold on, wait a minute Wait a minute Where they let Holiday go And they got Dame But Holiday went to Boston And won another title So I think, you know

Maybe Yonis felt the way about that But I thought Dame and Janus was going to be perfect They won for Dame getting hurt We don't know what they could have been on We never got a chance to really see it It was just like, it's just, I just, I just didn't see them being Shaq and Kobe, D-Waid and Kobe. No.

I didn't see that. And I think people thought that because they could be great to pick and roll. Dane's a point can handle the ball, can get the three out. Because when they packed the lane, Dane's going to get wide open shots. But for whatever reason, it was, I mean, it seemed like they played better when the other was off the court. Yeah. Yeah. A little more free.

I think if, wherever Yon is going. goals, though, Arkin Ocho, he's going to kind of have to change his game a little bit because he's so ball-dominant. Like, if you go, if you go on to play with another great point guard, let's say if you do go to New York, yeah, you're playing with Brunson, man, you're going to have to get in where you fit in, because they're not just going to give you the ball and let you bring it up every day and make it and play.

It's just not going to go like that. It's going to be, it's, it's tough, man. It's tough because these small market teams, when you get a superstar, you do everything you possibly can. you cater to him. You know, San Antonio, you know, they say the wives and girlfriends got to travel, and that was one of the reason Tim Duncan

didn't go to Orlando, because he asked. Yeah. Will wives be able to travel? They're like, nah, we don't do that here. Okay, well, I don't come here. Right. Hey, you be doing your homework. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah. I know something, don't know. I talk to, like I said, I don't really, look, I talk, I know a lot of people in the league and I talk to him and I, you know, hey. This don't go no, because think about it. This don't go any further than this.

I'm cool. Think about this, Ocho. If Tim Duncan goes to Orlando, he's playing with T. Mack and Grand Hill. Changes the landscape. Changes.

And because they wouldn't allow that man-wife to travel on some road trips. Yeah. Yeah. That's all you had to do, Ocho. Dang. To get Tim Duncan. That's it.

She had bring them crying kids, too. Bad please. To get a Tim Duncan? Yeah. But you're talking about a top 10 player all time. All time. And he was a top player at that point in time. He was a top five player in the NBA at that point in time.

Yeah. Yeah. Man, please. Damn. That's crazy. But there's something for certain things like with certain guys, you know, free agency, I'm sure. Tom Brady had, I get a sweet.

Peyton, I get a sweet. You know, I want that, Ocho. Yeah. On the road, I don't know, maybe I get a suite on the road. Yeah. Come Super Bowl time, I'm going to need X amount of tickets. I'm going to need a suite. I'm going to need access to a suite because my family can't sit outside.

Okay. I mean, to get a superstar, you, hey. Yeah, got the bargain. Got to accommodate them. Yes. But I guess that was a spurs thing. I guess the spurs still, you do the spurs. You play for the spurs.

Did you play for the spurs? No, I ain't played for the spurs. Do they still live wives and girlfriends on the plane? I don't know if the spurs probably do. But I'm thinking like, man, we, we, the teams I played on, I played here in Atlanta for seven years. We never, you could never bring girlfriends, wives. You can never, you can never, you can never.

Kids, you could never bring, you couldn't, you couldn't do none of that. You couldn't do nothing. Even when I played in Phoenix and I played on, I played on their great team. I don't never remember none of that. I don't never remember no team I played on the way. They was allowing you to bring your wife, your kids. I don't remember none of that. Yeah, they ain't.

Go after the rapids what they did when they got Kawhi. They let them do whatever then. For real? He brought him, he brought him a championship and got on a box. out of there. Damn. That's, hey, that's baller right there. Ocho, a team trade for you.

You go there, you win a title. Nah, I'm good. I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna go to L.A. I'm gone. You're out of there. Yeah, I don't, look, get it. They got it.

Get it. Get it. I mean, me, that's me. I don't, you know, I don't want, I wouldn't want my wife or girlfriend in that situation. But some, hey, some people want their wife a girlfriend. Now, the only wives on that plane, the owner's wife

and Mike's wife. There was the only two women on that plane other than the flight attendants. Right. Period. Yeah. We didn't even think of, we didn't even think about that. What? Now, when we went overseas, where did we go? We went to

Berlin and we went to Barcelona. We was allowed to bring our wives and girlfriend on the plane, so we all travel together. What a time. That's dope. Yeah, yeah, that was good. But y'all is going to be on the move.

And guess what? He definitely. As soon as the trade deadline hit February to field, that's next Thursday, right? That's trade deadline next Thursday. All of a sudden, y'all are going to be a bunch of me. He's a six-day week. I think, oh, you know what?

I feel good to go. I'm good. I feel good at a job. I feel good to go. But damn, because you got to think about, Joe, when they got Kareen, he left. They had some good teams, but not like when they had Kareem. And so when you get a guy, you know,

you draft a guy, you get a LeBron, or you get a Yonis, or you get a Kareem in these small markets, boy, you pray to God. They have to, they have to cater to of these stars because they know at some point these stars want to go out west playing L.A., playing New York. They already know this. So they got to do whatever they can to keep them, especially these small market teams. So I think it's pretty understood.

You know what I mean? I mean, I guess people said that Popovich allowed that. You know, some people, hey, they want their wives. I remember when I first got to Denver, Ocho, we used to stay at home night before the game. Yeah, we weren't allowed to Yeah, we definitely We got Wade Phillips We said, okay, we're going to stay at the hotel

night before a game I said why? Why we just can't stay at home? But you know guys be out? Yeah, you're talking about a home game. Yeah, we were allowed to stay for three years that our own house. Man, that's baller, bro.

I can't believe, like, in a home game, y'all had to go to hotel. In the Super Bowl, Dan, he'll lie wives and girlfriends to stay in the same room as the guys. Damn. Now, when we went, the family had their own hotel.

We had our own hotel. We could go down there, but they couldn't come to our hotel. Because Mike's like, no, we're not going to have kids running on the hall. We're not going to have all this and that. If you want to see the kids, go down there. You make that a little sacrifice for a day or two.

too. Yeah. That was good. That was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that's how we should be. And I think families understand that. You'll understand, look, we're there to win a game. It's much more fun. I, look, I didn't lose. But I can just imagine, it's probably more fun to win than it is to lose that game.

Lose. Yeah, yeah. Especially that one. Man, Ocho, too, because it happens so quick, the gun end, man, you look up, Ocho, they don't got the field taped off. I'm like, well, damn. And they're ushering you out, hey, hey, hey.

They're like dabping them up and you're dapping somebody else, they're pushing them off the field. Because, you know, family coming on, media coming on cameras, everybody coming on. Confetti is falling down. I'm like, well, damn. And then I remember in Baltimore guys,

that was Sunday. So that Monday, man, we pulled it up, we leaving at the same time the Giants leaving. Oh, Cho, you. thought they were going to a funeral. Man, they looked, they looked so deject. They were sad, they were sad. I was like, oh my God.

I said, I show, show hope I'd never have to feel like that. Because I can just imagine, I imagine how I felt when we lost the 96, Ocho, can you, that was a divisional game. Can you imagine what? Man, I don't know what I'd have done, Ocho. The Super, the Super Bowl. I don't know what I'd have done, Ocho. And you got to go into the summer with that feeling?

Oh, man. at least they don't really show, they don't really show a divisional rounds like they show the Super Bowl. NFL Network going to show the Super Bowl about 25 times between now and next football. You don't know, Joe. Nah, bro. Milwaukee, I'm sorry. Y'all have had two of the greatest players in NBA history in both.

I think Kareem only stayed like six years, six, seven years. Yonison stayed at least a decade. Yeah. This show contains information subject to, but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man?

This is your boy Nav Green from the Broken Play Podcast. Look, it's the end of the season, the playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play Podcasts with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network.

Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs. They're cheese. Oh, it's a rap. It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now, then? Drake May up there, Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy, Matthew Stafford. Where did his boat Nick's at?

He ain't too far behind. He did all this talk about. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy. Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams. Hey, he should be in that conversation. In what conversation?

He should be in it. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the I Heart Radio App, Apple Podcast, or whatever you get your podcast. What's up? It's Cam Jordan. I'm back with season three of your favorite podcast, The Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast. Tap in every Wednesday to hear conversations with my friends and stars from the NFL, the sports world in general, and entertainment. About anything from teams and players making waves to pop culture.

And I'll take you inside my journey through my 15th season in the NFL. Looking forward to you joining me this season, the season of more on The Off The Off The Edge with Cam Joom podcast. Catch new episodes every Wednesday on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Wasabi Hot Cloud Storage. Store more and do more with your data. Try them for free at Wasabi.com. Lines and Times with Spencer Graves on the IHartRadio app is a podcast designed for hunters and fishermen to enjoy success. I like, hey, put me on a big deer.

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So when you do it on your own, it's like, I then can hang my hat. But if I had somebody say, hey, pull up on these dots and catch them right here and you're going to win. And then when I go win, it's like, yeah, that's cool. I won the tournament, the ultimate goal is done. But it's like, dude, when you find them and you make them bite, that's the puzzle. I love it. Listen to lines and tines with Spencer Graves on the IHard Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Damn, he bit it out. He'd been there at all? And brought him a championship. Damn. They got some nice pieces, though. They get some in return. They can still stay in the hunt.

But, boy, going to be a fool wherever he goes. Jay Crowder, Rips Doc Rivers said Bucks hiring head coach started Yonis Trade Rumors, Avalanche. We started 30 and 13. To bring in Doc, this is what started the avalanche.

Adrian Wardenowski, the Milwaukee Bugs dismissed Adrian Griffin, sources tell ESPN. Joe, what you think? Yeah. You think that's what started? I thought Adrian was doing a great job. I thought Adrian Griffin was doing a great job. 30 and 13?

And you, 30 and 13. You, they had to be top two, three team in the east. And, uh, you fire him to bring in Doc and everything just kind of dewindle from there. You know what I mean? Like, you, you, you had a good team in place. Obviously, with Dame getting hurt, I just think it kind of, it kind of lost our hope. But yeah, they got to get rid of, they got to get rid of, you know. They got to.

Dang. Doc got to stay there. Yeah. You can't, hey, that don't happen in football. Hell not. Well,

you got a, well, the charges fired Marty Shottonheimer after going 14 and 2 because him and AJ Smith. Hell, they fired,

they fired. You remember that, Ocho? Yeah, they fired Lovy Smith after going 10 and 6. And they just, and they were in cell,

and they was in hell until they got Ben Johnson. Ben Jolson. They should have never fired Love. him. But AJ Smith and Marty Chattonheimer arrest Marty's soul. They couldn't agree he went 14 and 2

and they fired him. But the killer part is I don't even think Agent Griffin going to get another crack at it. It's a cold world, boy. Probably won't. And that's the sad part about it, Joe, because you know, he's not one of them names.

Adrian Griffin. What was the guy that was at the Pelicans? I don't know if he'll get another job either. Willie Green. I don't know if you get another job either. I play with Willie. I play with Willie here in Atlanta. I played with him for like a year or two here in Atlanta.

Yeah, he might not get another chance neither. I don't know with you. Thank. That's crazy. LeBron tears up over the tribute, the video at the Cavs route the Lakers. Bron teared up during the timeout with 746 remaining in the first quarter when the Cavs showed video highlights of him scoring 25 straight points during game five of the 2007 Eastern Conference Finals against the Pistons.

He wiped his eyes with the tower after the video played. It was the first time that the Cavaliers have honored LeBron by playing a highlight from that game. Usually, they show clips of game seven of the 2016 NBA finals when Cleveland won its first championship. Joe, did they did that, uh, did Hawks give you a video tribute? Yeah, they gave me a video trip. You become emotional? They gave me a video trip. Did you become emotional?

No, I, I ain't become emotional on, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, you became a video tribute. You know, I'll be so locked in. I mean, I'm appreciative of it. And I obviously got great memories. You know, they still got a lot of people who work at the arena. Yeah. When I was playing, they still there. So when I go to the arena, I go to the House games,

because I go to quite a few, man, it brings back so many memories. I ain't going to lie. I get chills. I get goosebumps when I walk in there because I get to see a lot of old familiar faces and a lot of people who've seen me go to war night in and night out. So it's always a great feeling to be back in there. But for LeBron tonight, for what he's done for Cleveland, you know, coming back, Anka-Ocho,

from that deficit down 3-1 in the finals and coming back and winning it, man, please. And then he led everybody at every stat, points, rebound, assists, blocks, and steals. Hey, man, what he's done for the NBA alone since he was 17, 18 years old, man. Uncle Ocho is remarkable, bro. Like, I tipped my hat to him because he exceeded expectations.

Yeah. You know what I mean? I heard about it in my rookie year when he was just a junior high school, when Antoine Walker was saying, man, this is a dude. LeBron James came to Chicago. Who would us? You know, he already looked like a pro. I'm like, man, please.

There ain't no dude coming in his leave for going to be cutting up like that. Right. that boy came in here stepping on some stuff you're me you're right I mean they're not very many six seven 18 year olds get drafted and automatically get handed the keys to the car now because they're not they not

they wasn't physically opposing like he was at 18 uncle Ocho the man was built he was already he already had a grown man body yeah he had a little 18 year old body that boy was grown according to the

The S-Pen report, the calves would welcome LeBron back this summer too if he wanted to join the team for his 24th season. Joe, would you like to see LeBron go back to the calves? I wouldn't mind it. But, hey, look, but just how we talk about Yonnes and his brother got to get up out of that, they're going to have to bring Brunney with him. Bruny got to go with him, but Bruny got to go home with him. Bronte got out, Brian to hit two threes tonight, got a dunk. Yeah, yeah, but they, hey, um, the.

the game was so out of control, it was bad. Boy. But I do think him going back to Cleveland definitely help them because they got everything you can need, man. They just need somebody to orchestrate that day. That would be dope, huh? Yeah. Joe, I think that would be dope.

Obviously, Ronnie going back to him. But I know LeBron going to keep it going, though. He going to keep it going until he gets the opportunity to play with his second son. I'm telling you that's going to happen. Yes. But ain't that man built ain't that man building like something $30 million Yeah, $35, $40 million. He might be more than that because he bought the house for $30 million and tore it down.

I didn't like that, Ocho. I'm moving in. That's a different. $30 million. I'm moving in. They better have left of furniture, TV, linens, everything. Hey, that's a different kind of. Yeah.

They tow that thing down. $35 million, man, please. I mean, you start seeing houses like $35 million and $50 million, $70 million. I went into a $70 million house. Ooh. Wasn't that night. Shoot, that goddamn, who is that?

As Ross. Ross bought something over here on Star Island, down here, Miami, young. Man, house about $28 million. Ask me with a house at her. Notting it all the way down to rebuild. Wow. I was gonna start, we had a party on Star Island

one time at the Super Bowl. We came to Super Bowl in 99, Joe. Yeah. You're jumping over there. When a little helicopter over there. Hey. Go to helicopter in old Joe, oh, go, okay now.

Yeah. Wasn't gonna live. I ain't like that no more. I was hell when I was well. Yeah. I ain't like that no more. When I was, let's slow down. He's got me.

Hey. Hey, Joe, it's different over there on Star Island, boy. It's, you got to have a different type of. Yeah. Yeah. They gotta be coming out to Wazoo, ain't a man. Hey, and the funny thing about it,

most of the people that own them house on Star Island, then them damn vacation home. Like, come on, man. A vacation home for 30 up, Joe, ain't nothing over there, 20 million or less. Nothing, everything's starting that 20 and up. Damn. It's, uh, in the house, I went to the, uh,

I was like, you know what, he got this house 70 million, all this, the whole, wall go down. You could overlook all in L.A. and see all the about everything. I was like, let me go see what you got in garage. What do he had in there? Two Teslas.

A collector. Two Tesla. I swear. That's it. Two Tesla's. Hey, hold on. His house was 70 million, like 70.

Yes. Total real estate agent. He's looking for something. in the neighborhood between 60 and 100 million. He gave them seven days to find something. I mean, the dinner table we sit there, don't you probably, it probably seat by 30, 40 people. Yeah.

Okay, I know you're talking about it. Like in the castle, like in the castle. Man, they tried to talk to me. I said, y'all have to come down here, man. Tell me what he's saying. Wait that back. Man, I can't hear what he talking about way down there. You're talking about, you know, football.

What I think about this, what I think about that, better eggs. Right, right. That's, that's a different. Oh yeah. Ocho, you gotta see it. You gotta see it. You gotta see this house, Ocho. Yeah, maybe one day we might be able to do it.

No, I wouldn't know how to $70 million, man. Hell no. No, $70 million for a house, Coach. Do you know the upkeep is on that? I mean, you never know what God might bless you with. He can bless me with 70 and I get me up. The house I mean. Okay.

Okay. I'll pay that now. Man, listen. What's a $70 million house? What's the square footage on that? Probably, I'll say somewhere between 30 and 40,000 square feet. God damn. I'm telling my, you, hey, you won't even see.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you could literally, yeah. I mean, they got an area. I mean, the couch, the couch probably like, I say 20 feet. you got a fireplace it got a fire place. I swear, I'll swear. It got a fireplace by, the fireplace is probably 10, maybe 15 feet wide.

Jesus Christ. And so that's just the outside. That's the one that you sit on to just end an infinity pool. That's not the pool that got down, but that's just the infinity pool that you. Lord, have mercy. Yeah. Yeah.

I tell you what, I'm gonna call him and say, man, I, you know, I told somebody about your place. I want to, I want to take him up there to see it. See? I'm trying to stay out a few days. Oh, no, no, no. I told about it. Nothing. He's like, you know, if you ever want to stay, I say, I couldn't.

I couldn't even be good conscience. I can't sleep. I could. Well, you know, you got to stay. I can't sleep. I'm going to sleep watching. Make sure don't nothing leave this man in house. Man, I can't sleep a week.

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Hey, Joe. Hey, I beat you. Yeah. The Browns. Oh, Joe. have hired former Ravens offensive coordinator Todd Munkin to be the next head coach. Munkin, who has spent the last three seasons in Baltimore, will become the Cleveland's 11th full-time coach since returning to the NFL in 1999.

In Munkin's first season with the Ravens, he helped Lamar Jackson win his second MVP in 2023. Despite the great success in 23 and 24, with Munkin as Ravins O.C. As Munkin had chemistry issues during the first. previous season as reported by team sources. Monkin demanding coaching style clash with Lamar's preference. Ocho?

Yeah. How do you see Todd Monkin handling the battle between Shadour and Deshaun if he couldn't deal with Lamar? Well, listen, he's had some success with Lamar. It doesn't matter who coach Lamar. Lamar is going to be who Lamar is. Joe, you can go out there and coach Lamar. He's going to be the exact player he's always been.

And he's going to be that two-time MVP type player that can change the dynamic of a game at any point. Todd Munkin's going to have to get in his bag over there in Cleveland. You'll do more to that. He's going to have to get in his bag as an officer coordinator and have a plan. I'm not sure what that plan is going to be. I'm not sure who you're going to go with, whether Dishon Watson, whether it's Taylor, Dylan Gabriel or whether it's Ador Sanders. But he's going to have to find and find out very quick who's going to be the quarterback number one in the team. and after that, then you forgot what you're going to do

in the other surrounding areas offensively where you need help. And they're going to need a lot of help. I have no problem with the hired self. He's had success, obviously, with Lamar, but there is no Lamar Jackson in Cleveland, huh? No. There is no Lamar Jackson in Cleveland.

Therefore, everything Todd Munkin has to provide to help those quarterbacks, he's going to have to be in his bag, um? He got to be in it. Remember, he won two national championships with Stetson Bennett as a quarterback at the University of Georgia. Hold on that. Wait a minute.

Stetson Bennett as his quarterback on a Georgia team that was loaded on goddamn defense. Now he's going back to a team where they're loaded on defense. Now the Achilles here for the Cleveland Browns has always been on offense. If you can get that offense on point, just meet him halfway on. Just maybe somewhere Joe in the middle of the pack. He ain't got to be top five.

You got to be top five. Just meet us in, meet us half goddamn way, please. They got some promising young talent, though, Uncle Ocho. Please. Wait, hey, hey, what's the titan name? Fanny. Oh, Fannie. Boy, that, Hal Fannie, Jr.

Damn it. Hey, that young boy, hey, that young boy there? Boy, hey, Joe, he is the real deal. Yes, sir. He's the real. And speaking to Cleveland Brown, hey, eh, um, if I see Miles Garrett, anywhere in Santa Clara, Yeah, he got to see me

He gave your jersey away Joe, he sent the jersey to the Hall of Fame Instead of getting it to me No one I asked for at first Man, we told you he were going to do that Hey, Joe, hey Joe, I'm for the Molly whopping, Joe I'm for the Molly whopping, Joe. Hey, Ocho, Ocho, leave that long, let they go.

No, no, no, no, you don't disrespect me like that. You told me you was going to give me the jersey, so that means you're supposed to be a manny of word and give me the jersey. I don't care who asked for it. If I ask first and you say yes, now I got to whip your ass. Well, I don't think he's going to be ducking on smoke. Yeah, but he ain't got a duck.

He ain't got a duck. He ain't got a duck. He going to get what he looking for. Okay. He'd think he had 23 sacks. It's going to be 24 when I get done with you. Oh, okay. I think the thing is for me, Ocho, let me know what you think, Joe.

I think it'll be easy. It's hard to coach superstar quarterbacks. It's hard. It ain't easy. Ask anybody that's ever had to coach him. You think it's easy coaching Don Brady? Now, it makes your job easy, but they're going to need to know.

They need to know what you're telling me is legit. They got questions. They're going to need you to give them answers. Not where I get back to you. No, you better find you better know the answer. It's not easy coaching these guys now. Because these guys are brainy.

I mean, you talk about Lamar and Lamar like, like, Lamar, like, hold on. Who are you yelling? Who do you think you're talking to? And I'm so glad you just mentioned that too Well how hard it is the coach Quarterbacks And I'm not sure if you seen the clip Joe

I'm sure you saw the clip Unk I know you've seen it before But goddamn Bill O'Brien and Tom Going at it on the sideline And Brady going down on the sideline chat I don't know if you guys have seen that clip You know so if they went at it like that on the sideline What do you think happened in practice?

Oh yeah Shit Hey Joe What did a greatest times of my life being in the New England Patriot is goddamn Bill O'Brien and Tom Brady going at it in practice for about five minutes straight. I'm talking about you think I'd be messing up cursing on here sometimes. Oh, Tom will curse now. Hey, Joe, I was sitting there smiling air to ear, I'm like, oh, what ain't really going at? Like, because of their ass out, Tom. Hey, they were talking. I'm

like, oh, this is how it is. No one of these dudes went all the goddamn. time everything got to be right joe yeah everything has to be perfect if it's not perfect you're doing it over and you're not doing the playover you're starting the whole period over and doing it again that's what was expected of everybody especially offensively so when things didn't go right tom got on bill when things didn't go right bill got on tom and they kept that standard no matter what And it helped me understand well, goddamn, no wonder they went all the goddamn time.

And, oh, I wish you could have been there to see that. I ain't never in the history of all the time that I played the game of football ever seen a quarterback and the coach go at it like that. But it was awesome.

And from that point on, the rest of practice, he maxed. Oh, you got to have a standard. Not one mistake, not one drop ball, no nothing. It's just everything, and smooth. We went out there. I forgot who we played that week.

Man, we put up by damn there 40 points. Joe, put a band up 40 points. Hey, oh, that's, you. We went to the Super Bowl, Joe. Yeah, we went to the Super Bowl that year. There has to be a level of expectation. We all lost through that year, Joe. The Giants, the Giants, man. Oh, uh, Eli. Yeah, Eli caught, uh, was that man. Mario Manningham on the sideline and gets covered too. Yeah, on the salary. He dropped it in the bucket, Ocho. He dropped into the bucket.

That was a beautiful throw. Damn. Yeah, that's what I'm, look, you know, being around John and being around Mike because Mike was like that. For real? You might get away if you drop one in a team period. Drop two, start it over.

Lord, please do it. All I'm saying, I don't want to be the one. Right. Right. Right. Man, boy, look here. Mike was hell, man. There's a.

When I say he said don't accept anything in a win, you wouldn't have a loss. Yeah, he meant that. Yeah, he had to have, we had to get it. I mean, run, catch any path. I don't give a damn if it was a down flat. You finishing 40 yards, 40. Yeah.

And come back. And they got to run back. Yeah. But then you're like, okay, now I understand why we do it. you get a greater appreciation for why you do things and you see, okay, so this is why the 49ers had success. Because they were like the Patriots in the 80s. Yeah.

You're like, okay, now I see, now I see. Who. Brown's defense, according to Jim Swartz, might be out of the door after the team hired Monkin as his head coach, according to Tom Pelliserro. Pelliserro reported that Swartz, that Swartz, who's one of the three finalists, was visibly upset and said goodbyes in the building

and told other coaches he's not coming back. Opposing teams are reportedly ready to pounce if he leaves also. Miles Garrett just posted on IG. That's bro sitting down like, damn. Hey, Joe, you see that lady that working papa, see how she look? Yes, sir. That just how I'm going to have Miles look. when I catch up to him out there in Santa Clara,

just like that. Miles was like, man, it just got me a unanimous defensive player of the year. I was playing good with this man and this man in this situation, what y'all would do? Hey,

hey, um, come on now. You know, man, listen. Anybody, you could have been coaching that Brown defense. Miles Garrett still would have got them 23 sacks.

He still would have been an all pro. In matter of fact, even if Mrs. Swartz is leaving, whoever comes in to take over that goddamn defense, You got the pieces in the personnel where you're going to be all right. You got the pieces in the personnel where you're going to be all right.

That was the top five defense all season long, now. Right. They, Joe, they ain't shabby at all. Yeah, no, I check them out a few times. They did, they think. Oh, they're good defense. They're good defense. Very good.

They just need some pieces offensive. They need a wide receiver. They need offensive line help. I'm thinking Joe's going to leave so get another tight end. Do you really? Yeah. Yeah. That's why they got Fanny then.

It don't hurt to have two of them, Joe. You can find you one in the fourth or fifth round. Hey, a fanning. Oh, I like him. I like him. I like him a lot. He's nice. You thinking Joku's going to require too much money?

They're going to move. Like you said, they got Fanny. So, you know, we go draft a tight end. We get him on a low number, run a lot of double tight end sets. Yeah. Look at the Patriots. They got Hooper and they got Hunter Henry.

You look at the bills. Team, you know, it definitely helps. Definitely helps. The bills promoted offensive coordinator Joe Brady as the next head coach earlier this week. The decision to fire Sean McDermott and elevate Brady rather than clean house is now under heavy scrutiny. Ocho, are you confident that Joe Brady is the guy?

I mean, what's the goddamn difference? He was already there. Hell, you might as well have kept Mr. McDermott. Joe, that don't make no sense to me. Yeah. If you're a head coach and someone that's under you, you know, I mean, if you find McDermott, why the hell everybody else ain't fired? They want a different voice in there, Ocho.

Man, come on, nah. Come on, nah. Come on that. I don't understand how Brandon Bean kept his job. Who was at the gym? I don't know how he kept his job. Yeah. That's what I need somebody to help me explain that to me.

Because it seemed like Sean McDermott called all the criticism. And I get it, you know, Mr. Pagula, you know, he's supporting his GM because he gave him a more uptitle. But those players, I think, you know, he wanted to put, what's the, Keon Coleman. He put that in the lap of Sean McDermott. Yeah. I just. It's crazy. A new voice.

That's the same voice. I think Joe Brady did a phenomenal job. Yes, sir. I think the thing is, Ocho, is that Sean McDermott, you know, his defense, they've been one of the top offenses, but defensively is kind of where they falter. Yeah. And that's his level of expertise.

Remember, they fired Leslie Frazier. Yes. Yeah. Leslie Frazier was our de-coordinator in Cincinnati too, huh? Yeah, Leslie Frey, yeah. Chris Fraser. So what's the, what do you think? Super Bowl on the bus this year, Ocho?

For the bills? I mean, well, hell, that was supposed to be this year, huh? This year, this was the easiest route for him. You ain't had to deal with three or three of the better players out of the AFC, you know? So maybe next year, maybe next year is a little different. Maybe he can run the gauntlet. He can beat my homes.

He can beat Burrow. He can beat. I ain't bet nobody in the playoffs. We don't know. We don't know what next year is going to look like, but hell. And what the bills need? Receiver, a one. They got a one.

I think the thing is, look, there's too many turnovers. This was on Josh. This was on Josh. Because Josh is really good in the postseason, Joe. He hadn't had a turnover in season playoff games. He picked the worst time to have the most turnovers he's had in the very long time. It's hard to. win on the road with five turnovers and four of them is at the hand for your quarterback.

Now, guys fumbling and stuff like that ain't really a whole lot you could do about that. But this was on Josh's watch. So it's tough. And, you know, Sean McDermen, I know Sean McDermen, I know Sean McDermy and Ocho and I was talking about, look, this grandstanding, he knew he couldn't challenge that. He knew that call, the call what it was. And he knew the, you know, you got to survive the ground. but he knew they probably had

they if they didn't flat out tell him they had probably alluded to you're going to need to get to the Super Bowl in order to stay in this job you probably you probably knew that oh I knew because I talked about this

and Ocho you laughed at me because I told you in October he's like you think brother McDermott? I said oh yeah absolutely yeah you did see he was out of there if they didn't win what I tell you about what I tell you about the Steelers

and the Ravens The coach your situation. Harbaugh. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. New voice. You said.

Loud and clear. Yeah, Harbaugh been there for a minute. 18 and, uh, he's been there 18 years and Tomlin had been there 19. Damn. Mm. Oh, Cho. Yo. Sean Payton announced that the team has parted ways with offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi,

wide receivers Carrie Colbert and cornerbacks coach Addison Lynch. Lombardi spent. 12 years over two different stents on Peyton's staff with the Saints and has been the Broncos officer coordinator since Peyton was hired in 2023. However, Peyton is the offensive play caller. Sean, don't do this. I love Sean, Peyton is great.

Why you fired that man, you made the call. You went forward on fourth down. Joe Lombardi. So what? Joe is far as saying, Coach, you an effing idiot if you do this? Right. I don't get, I don't, I can see if Joe Lombardi. call the plays, but first of all, every, every play caller that's not the head coach,

the head coach is listening in here. Nah, let's run it in this situation. He could have easily said that. I got a question. Who fired him? Sean Payton fired him. Was that Sean Payton's call or did it cover him? Sean Payton fired him.

Sean Payton has a lot of control. A lot. Right. Damn, I wonder what. Cause he getting a lot of heat for that boat. getting a lot of heat for that call. The weather, huh? The same Kerry Colbert that played receiver?

I guess. I don't know. No, Carrie Cobber. You don't remember Carrie? Yeah. He played during, he played during my era, huh? You remember Carrie Colbert? I think he went to USC.

I could be wrong. I think, I think he went to USC. Chat, Carrie Colbert, went to USC, didn't he? I just don't understand. understand how Sean could fire this man and ain't nobody going to be sitting back there thinking like, Sean, what you doing? Bro, you call that play. That's on you.

You knew the weather. There's no way, nobody can convince me that Sean Payton didn't know that weather was going to get vastly different in the second half that it wasn't the first. And 10 points. Now, obviously, you don't expect your quarterback to turn it over the negative field position, but still. Sean Payton has consistently said, he would not surrender play calling duties as Broncos O.C. Lombardi was in the coach's booth

and among those on the headset during the game. But Peyton was the voice in the quarterback's helmet. So how did the court didn't lose his job when you call in the plays? It might be something else we don't know about, huh?

They might have had some disagreements. They might have had some quarrel. I told you you an effing idiot for calling for it on fourth down. That's why he fired me. Because I was the voice of reason. Yeah. But you,

that might, there might be some stuff internally that we don't know about on, you know, maybe a disagreement probably on exactly what you, exactly what you just said. I mean, who knows? I mean, if you know the right people,

you'll probably find out, though. You'll probably find out the real reason why he was fired. I don't think Sean Payton must have not thought that he was going to get this kind of criticism. Bro, that is a backup on his third team. And you have an opportunity.

opportunity to go up 10 nothing. Kick that ball. Sean has started to get how on his own supply. He had started to drink the Kool-A that he really thought that Jerry Stidham was like that. He did. I'm not so sure he would have paid Manning. I don't think a Bill Belichick in that situation. I think Bill Belichick could kick it.

Because Bill understands situational football. He understands. He doesn't got to weather report. This thing will get bad in the second half. I need to do it as much as I can. 10 points might be enough to win this game. And I'd be damn. 10 points was enough to win the game.

I know it hurt, Uncle. I know. I hear it in your voice. You know what, Joe? And I told Ocho this. I said if we had lost with Bo? Yeah. It would have been bad.

You don't think y'all had a chance. Yeah, we had a chance. We kicked him. But he had, but he couldn't turn the ball over. When you playing with your backup, your backup can't turn the ball over. Yeah, because he he doesn't have the capabilities in the world with all to go get those points back. That's not Tom Brady.

That's not Peyton Manning. That's not my home. That's not one of those guys that can have a turnover and still have that kind of, it have the ability to make plays. That's not, he's not a playmaker. Not. All right. We'll get you out here on this one.

It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy said, oh, when you hit the ground, I thought you'd go shadow like glass. Just joking. Love nightcap outside. Me too. That's why I don't do no falling, Doc.

That's why, hey, I stay with stuff where I don't have to fall. I don't have to run. So. Yeah, you cut up, though. That first game, that golf game. I ain't me to do that, Joe. You cut up. I ain't even like me.

You didn't? That ain't like me. Nah, like I said, I see what I'm dealing with. It's okay. No, I see. Ocho and I see what we deal with. Man, you know, man, Joe, Real quiet, man, Joe to himself, Joe full of caca.

Joe ain't full of himself. You know, listen, listen, that's because I'm hanging out with you too loud, mile. And y'all talking, y'all talking to all that, y'all talking to all that is. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. You're going to get just what you're looking for. One thing, unc threw me the balls, talking about some losers go first.

I said, oh, okay, that's what sent me off, Ocho. That's set me off right there. That's what it was. Okay. You're saying. Okay. Hey, man, you know what I just thought about? Go ahead, Coach, what?

Hey, hey, uh, Joe. What's up? What do you call? A Chinese person with a camera. A Chinese person with a camera. Yeah. What's their name? I hope y'all enjoy this because we're about to get canceled

when Ocho'll come up with it, so I hope y'all enjoy Nightcap wide-lasting. an Asian person with a camera I don't know You got to answer Joe I ain't got nothing What you got on Joe You call him

Filming You get it Joe Yeah Asian camera Filming yeah Yeah Lord have birthday See what y'all started chat

Kippin'orwood Jr I was team unc all the way last night Yeah Kim you know No, I had to do what I did. I did, did what I do. Do what I do. Man. Who on my side?

Ocho, they picked you to come in last from the jump. Oh, they did? They say they weren't surprised you came in last, Ocho. Okay. I see how it is. Yeah. I see how it is. Yeah, I question how you were so great in footballing.

So, uh, uncoctioned underscore Joe, Jay. Yo, enjoy the video last night. watching y'all compete. Great seeing y'all have fun. Need more videos like it. Unk. Easy now. You got the whiskey shot stiff this going on.

Yeah, man. Bro, you got to realize. You got to walk across country trying to get up early in the body, man. I need, hey, they need to start this in the afternoon. They got to let me, hey, they got to let me get a hot shower, go to the steam room. I got to loosen up. Joe Girl. Joe Girl say, hey, man, I don't never see him like this outside of the house.

It's great to see him. Oh, really? You ain't seen him like this. Hold on, hold on. Ocho, y'all do know I had surgery six months ago. That's the first time I've done an extracurriculum activity in six months. Okay. She said she didn't ever see you behave like that outside of the house.

Because I ain't, I ain't, I hadn't been running with guys like y'all talking all that is. See, I can't see, I told you, I played to the level of my competition. Then y'all started talking trash. It just came out of the head. I couldn't control. That little rock came out of me. I couldn't, I couldn't control it. I couldn't control it.

All right. Uncle, appreciate that, Jay. Avenue 77. What's good, Uncle Ocho, wish my grandma Barbara Johnson a happy bidet from the Carolina, GA, Maryland, Georgia, and New York and family.

Ms. Barbara Johnson, happy birthday. Happy birthday, Ms. Barbara. You got a lot of family members all over to Georgia, Maryland, Jersey, New York. Hopefully you got an opportunity to do something fun. I hope you took her out, took grandma out,

have a good time, let her go out, get some, she's probably like fried catfish, maybe some ox tail. You know, something like collard greens, cornbread. I showed you could use me some good old cornbread, blueberry cornbread with the iron skillet. We got to find some places like that, don't you.

Good old cornbread, iron skillet, some raccoon, some squirrel, Joe. Boy, that's some good, some good soul food. That's soul food. That's soul food. I mean, I've never known raccoon and squirrel to be under the soul food. Yeah, it's under there. Okay. It's under there.

I get depending on where you're from, okay. Well, if you're from the south, if you're from any part of the south, from the Georgia to the Mississippians to the Carolinas, the Arkansas, Alabama, absolutely. Right. Absolutely. All right. Michelle underscore show,

show, Uncle Ocho, the NFL Hall of Fame has lost all credibility. Bill and T.O. Not being first balanced is ridiculous. Also 85, Todd Roberts. for the decade, put him in. Bro, I, I just, you know what? Ocho, I, I really, for the longest time, stop speaking on it. Because whatever I say, people are going to say pro football Hall of Fame,

a Hall of Fame, Shannon Sharp said. So it's not like I, I don't care. I don't get a vote. So, but they were taking it like where Shannon Sharp said this and Shannon Sharp Hall of Fame. So I was like, you know what? Y'all go with what y'all think. Yeah, it's tough.

It's getting tough. Like I said, when Derek Thomas had to wait five years to get in, Tio had to wait three years to get in. Now with Coach Belichick, it does take some of the luster off of it. It's still an unbelievable honor. And people like, well, what do you think when you went in on the third ballot? I said, I don't care about no secret ballot, no absentee ballot. I'm in.

I don't give a damn what I went in. Right. My family got a chance to see my home boys, my friend, so I'm great. Don Juan 47, can I get a shout out to the Scottish veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan? Bill B belongs in the hall. Love you. Absolutely.

First of all, thank you for your support. Thank you for your protection and your services that you gave to this country. You make what we do seem so inconsequential because of what you do and what you did. So I want to thank you personally, and I want to thank all the many women that are serving this country around the world. Thank you for your service. And I don't think we thank you guys enough for the work that you guys do. So from Nightcap, Ocho, and Joe,

thank you for all the service men and women around the country. Thank you for your service. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely belongs in the Hall of Fame. And don't give me this. Oh, he's going to get in. That's beside the point.

That's beside the point. He should have been a first ballot. Aaron Owens, I'm shocked. Seattle never really put together a wild package with Jalen Miro all this season. Bro, they were 14 and 3 and you trying to find out a way to get Jail and Miro on the thing? Man, let me go on through this bag.

You see what I'm talking about, Ocho? You see it ain't never enough. They're in the Super Bowl. Sam Darnel is a Pro Bowl player. And this man talking about, well, I'm surprised they didn't find a wild. I can see if they didn't miss the playoffs. Ocho barely survive. I saw Joe's trash talk at the lawn club.

there's zero chance he's hanging with an unc on the football field. Now, Joe, Joe sneaky, Joe pretend like, you know, hey, man, you know, I've just had a good time and all the time just trying to gut you silently. But this day coming. Oh, yeah. I don't even know what John talking about, man. Don't worry about. You'll find out what we're talking about.

Arizona Ron Ford. What's up, my boys. Can y'all wish my grandma, Jesse, may a happy birthday. She turned 72 today. Much love. Wow. Absolutely. Miss Jessie Mae.

Happy. Happy birthday. Happy 72th birthday. 72 trips around the sun. Thank you. Hopefully you enjoyed your day. Oh, yeah. El Prade 98.

A. Ocho, I'm glad I'm bringing Mississippi Massquire. That's him paying you back after cutting them over Maxwell and Michelle and DeGio Chello. Man, Maxwell, both of them are going to say, am I wedding? Hello? Are we still getting married next year? Yeah, okay, Ben. I thought it was 26. I might move it.

It might be. Oh, it's getting, it's. I mean, it was supposed to be 26. He moved it back. So I say, okay, Ben, I waited another year. Hey, I met right get some Laporteur. She can't be just right. I'd be at the courthouse.

Y'all leave nobody. Ooh. We're supposed to have a double wedding. It'd be at the coat house. You know right now, Ocho, you know, I can't for no, you know, what, uh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I can't for, no rehearsal dinner, no big ass dress. No, you good, you good, you good.

That's why if we do the dual wedding, we get everything half off. And I got a promise ring. I promise you, I'm gonna get you a ring, baby. That's all I got for, for a Joe. I put that's it. That Joe, that's it. Rebel night wing. Bill should be running the NFL. you know, I think everybody, a lot of people feel the same way.

Obviously, everybody doesn't feel the same way. Because if everybody felt the same way, we felt, guess what, Ocho, Joe, he'd be in. So clearly there are people that don't feel as strongly about it as we do. Right. And at this point in time, I don't really know what we can do. And even if you got, okay, we find out somebody violated X, Y, and Z, what? He's still not getting in. Right.

So, and it kind of defeats the purpose. So I hate it for Coach Belichick. You might not like the way he conducted some of his things, but there ain't no denying the man is the first battle of hall of fame. He's the greatest coach in the history. And for them to pull this kind of funny stuff, it's just disappointing. Robbie Lowe, thank you. What is the voting for?

You're not, you may, you might not ever see that run again? Oh, I got to listen to it. You might not ever see that type of run again. He's talking about with Coach Belichick, and you won't. Right. You might not. You won't see that type of run again. 20 years with that count of dominance,

they went to, think about it, in 20 years, they went to nine Super Bowls. Mm. That's damn their Super Bowl every other year. You're never going to see that again. And to not reward that man for his hard work. And you know he put time.

man. Like I said, two things can be true. But that man deserved to be in. Titans Forever 2. Sub, Uncle, uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh, and I have a question. If you could go back in time to do a duet with a famous music artist, who would it be?

Man, me and Sinatra. What we talk about? Me and Sinatra, at the Sands in Vegas, 1964. I want to see MJ. Me and MJ. Michael Jackson.

Oh, plan. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah. Who you got, huh? I'm a huge MJ fan and I love Prince. But if I could do it, if I could like really had like vocals like that, y'all know who I'm doing it with. Michelle and Degello. All the people from the past, man, how are you going to pick, Mr. Machine? I know you.

I don't care. Michelle and Dege. Okay. I got you. Ocho, that song, that song answered me, man, I can't get that out of my head. I know, but Uncle, there's so many other grace before she came along that paved the way for her to be able to do what she's doing now. But I think the thing is, Ocho, you know what is about her? If you really listen to her, it's the passion in which she sings with.

Um, Elephant and Gerald sang with passion. Huh? Billy Holliday, Billy Holliday sing with passion. Lena Horn sang with passion, huh? Ethel Waters sang with passion. Okay, I take Prince then. Okay, there we go. There we go. There we go.

That's a good one. I take Prince. Pritz was a bad boy. Yeah, he was. Shelton Pope, your interview with Kevin Gates, hashtag fire. Appreciate it, man. Thank you guys for watching it, boy. Ooh, Lord.

Man, I've seen, hey. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. What happened? What happened, Joe? Man, just Kevin Gates talking about his child. Talk about everything. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I see, I see. Ooh, Lord. Handbags and heels. I so, congrats on your Hall of Fame nomination. Well deserved. Appreciate it. Yes, absolutely. Thank you.

We're going to have a party, Joe, with your money. Hey, Eric George Scott. Hey, listen, listen. See, look, now you're on Ocho get to party with me. It ain't about winning and losing no more. You know what I mean? You see what I'm going to talk about Joecho?

You see him now. Chat. No, no, no, no. He's gonna keep taking little jabs, huh? Okay. You can't take it like that. I'm just saying, if I get in, boy, we're going, hey, we're going to cut up. You're what I'm saying?

You see what I'm saying? Huh? Ocho, you see, right? You see how he behaving? I he misbehaving. He misbehaving like to grab him over there. Boy, you misbehaving now. I heim loud and clear.

Uh, Eric George Scott. Hey, y'all boy. don't shoot no dice with money. I'd hate to see a little Ocho get jacked up. Uh-uh, no, no, no, no, no. No, money out of sight calls a fight. You got to have the money in the hand. Money got to be on the wood.

Oh, hey, money, hold on. In a hand, money going to be on the floor. Yeah, absolutely. The money going to be on the floor. We shoot on a pool tape. How are you going to do it. That game is going home with me. Yeah, let's get on a pool tape.

So we ain't got to get that on their floor right there. Yeah, I can keep that. I can get to get to bed and over. You're going to have to. You better get on one knee. Come on. Oh, Joe, just give them a pool table. No, no, no, no, no.

I need to be, I need a real dice game. I need to be on the float. We're gonna put the, we're gonna put the, we're gonna put the little thing over the pool table, a little cover over the pool table so the, so the dice can roll good. Nah, see that, y'all don't know how to shoot no dice. I got a question.

Y'all like, y'all like the dice, y'all like the dice with the sharp corner. Yeah, you got a sharp way. You got a little roll-ass dice and shaved edges. You gotta, as a matter of fact, I'm gonna go to the casino and get some casino dice. Yeah, and don't try to get no one way. dice either. One way?

Yeah. Uncle won't put nothing like that on a little. Yeah, yes he would. Yeah, yes, he would. Yes, he would. Yes, he would. Yes, he would. I don't need to do no crooks. Yeah, all right. Well, these are all naturals. I'm rolling, too. It sound good. You got the sound effects down pat.

Oh, Big Brother Almighty. Hey, guys, please wish my wife Sarah A, a happy birthday. Sarah, happy birthday. Big brother, what you do today, man? You take Wi-Fi out to eat, get a nice bite to eat. Y'all go to a movie. I mean, what did you guys do? I know you did something because you took time about to get on here with Nightcap and say, wish there was a happy birthday,

so I know you did something special. You wouldn't do it like that. T.S. Carwai, Detail, Service. Iso, Unc, Ocho. What player talked the craziest in the league? John Randa? A damn Gary Pade, man. Yeah, GP

Hey, Hey, I saw Uncle Ocho, I seen GP I heard GP I'm playing in the same game Cuss out the referees I'm talking about

They don't get a man No tech or nothing I'm talking about I just call them I'm like dang Yeah Your Majesty on God Yon has got them a chip

That's the difference No, the difference is He's leaving He got a chip So he should stay You see how y'all try to You see when you make see with somebody you like oh Joe you see it Joe you see the concession that people

have they moved they move the goal they see that they move the goal post that's the difference no no no no no no no no no no and look at what he said LeBron never said that he was going to be in cleveland forever KD never said he's going to be an okay C forever that he didn't want to go join up with other great players yon has said that hold him to his word I ain't got a problem with it but I just don't like the way y'all try to move because y'all tried to dump on LeBron and KD every chance you get. Yeah. Jonathan Black, it wasn't liquor that killed O'Bill.

I detest it was a green hornet that flew up his nose and tickled O'Bill to death. Is that right? It wasn't no liquor that killed O'Bill. It didn't even take his breath. A little green hornet with a bill nose and tickled O'Bill to death. Got that from Fred G. Saffra.

Trey Brookshow. Love y'all, love for Mississippi. Appreciate that, Trey. We're going to have to get down to Mississippi. I'm trying to figure out what we can do. We can go mudding. Maybe we can go noodling. You have been noodling, Joe?

Newling. In Mississippi? No, I think you got in Oklahoma, Texas like that. I think that's where they'd be noodling at. What is that? That would be you go catch your catfish. With your bare hands, you stick your hand in the hole and pull the catfish out.

Man, you're an Ocho ain't doing that? No, no. No, Ocho, Ocho, ISO doing that. Yeah, I, I think I can do. I don't know. I don't think you got that in your. My joke, my, Joe, I live in the water, boy. You, you swim, you can swim like a fish.

You don't swim? Yes, I can swim. Okay. Hey, Joe, I used to catch catfish in the river right there on the banks in Cincinnati. A big catfish, boy. What type of catfish you catch? What cat a catfish? Channel, speckle, bottle.

Oh, I don't, I don't, I don't know the scientific name exactly what kind of catfish. I just know that with catfish they have some big-ass whiskers. What you were fishing with? Huh? My hand, Joe. Man. And you know the water, hey, Joe, the water murky too, Joe. Yeah.

You catch black cats. Specker, bought her. I don't know. No, nobody. In Ohio. General Serious, Bella cheated and the shade and Shady are finally getting what they deserve for cheating. To think he doesn't deserve this is hilarious.

Ask the players who lost Super Bowls if he deserves this. What the question is, who benefited from him cheating? Hmm. If you feel that strongly about him, do you feel that strongly about anybody else that has a potential of getting in on that team? Hmm. Mm.

Okay, be careful. Six foot eight Aquarius since joining, since doing these commercials together, Justin Jefferson and Josh Allen need to play together. I don't think JJ will be opposed to that. He might, oh Joe, he might miss playing, in that dome 10 games a year because you know they got

where they play him, their dome and then Detroit's dome. So I'm sure he's going to miss play at eight nine to ten games a year in the dome, but to play with Josh Allen. Minnesota ain't given, shit, Minnesota ain't given that young boy. No.

Nah. Joe X. Black 92, AJ Brown to Buffalo next year. What y'all think? I can see that. I say that a minute ago. Yeah. Mike Mike, what's up, Uncle Joe,

ISO, when Yonis gets traders, what will he say? I did not expect to be traded. Wanted to be a buck forever. This caught me completely by surprise, but happy to be a Nick. Yeah. Yes, exactly what you're going to say.

Because remember, I saw you and I talked about, he said whatever his agent works out, that's on them. That ain't got nothing to do with me. Like the agent doesn't work at the behest of the player. Right. Always.

You see, he's, he was already trying to distance himself from that. That ain't got nothing to do with me. Caught me by surprise. Nah, your agent is an extension of you. Joy and Beehive of Uncle Joe, I've dealt with seizures for a while, and have another last night,

just wanted to say, appreciate the wisdom and energy you gave us. It helps more than you know. Jordan, I'm sorry that you're going through that man. I am so sorry, but I'm glad you're doing well. Yeah. Anytime that Ocho and Joe and I can bring some fun into your life and you don't have to deal with, I guess it takes your mind off the seriousness of these issues, the seizures that you're going through, that brings us joy as well.

That brings us joy as well. So, Joe, and thanks for watching us. I really, really appreciate that and wish you all the best. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Coach Belichick does not get in on the first ballot. Eli Manning doesn't get in on the second ballot. And Janice wants to be traded. And many believe it's going to happen before the February 5th trade deadline.

If it doesn't, it's definitely going to happen this summer. Thank you guys for watching another episode of Nightcap. I have your favorite. That is my partner and co-host, Liberty City's own. Bengals, Ring of Fame, Honorary, a former Pro Bowl, and an all pro. That is Chad Ochos Cinco Johnson. And the third member of the Big Three joining us. He's a seven-time NBA All-Star for the Atlanta Hawks or Arkansas love.

Huh? Why you got the goddamn bill on? Come on, Joe. See, Joe, you do too much, man. Now, I'm doing too much. Yeah, you do it too much. What's the belt for, Joe? What's the belt for?

Ocho, y'all see how yet? You can tell somebody, you can tell somebody ain't one too much. man but that's okay Joe he got a ocho and still you see I ain't chat now y'all see how he act oh he be on one you see y'all be thing oh man Joe man Joe so laid back man Joe full of cacao but it's they coming out that's all right so Joe Johnson thank you for joining us Joe please make sure you hit that subscribe button please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from we'd like to thank you for your support and your continued support those looking to

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There are still some general omission tickets remaining. Please grab yours before it's too late. Episode 1 of the nightcap outside dropped last night. We want to thank each and every one of you for watching. What do we get? Oh, yeah, what do y'all think about the episode last night? And Coach Belichick was not a first ballot Hall of Famer. What was the total ended up being?

What percent? Yes, what percent for no? 92 percent said he should have been a first ballot. Eight percent said no. But unfortunately, there's really nothing that can be done about it. Now, I know he's disappointed. Been through this process before coach, but keep your head up.

They can't take those six superiors. will both victories away. They can't take those 300 victories away, nor all of those division championships that you want. So you're still the greatest coach in the NFL history. Sometimes things doesn't always go as we plan, but God doesn't make any mistakes. Your day is coming,

and hopefully you still be as appreciative when that knock comes as you would have been had you gotten that call today, yesterday, or whenever the call went out. So again, thank you guys for joining us. I'm unc he and Joe's back tomorrow see y'all tomorrow yeah yeah peace out thank you night now ma'am we're out peace love what's up it's cam jordan i'm back with season three of your favorite podcast

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