Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 2: Has Saquon Barkley FALLEN OFF?! + Demond Williams RENEGES on Washington + Isiah Thomas SPARKS FIRE with Michael Jordan COMMENT

Episode Date: January 9, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to John Harbaugh becoming the new hottest head coaching candidate in the NFL after being fired by the Baltimore Ravens, Robert Saleh respo...nds to why his defense hasn’t had more success against Saquon Barkley, and Jalen Hurts comments on his reduced running this season and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - John Harbaugh hottest HC candidate in the game rn9:58 - Saleah asked about his defense against Saquon Barkley12:34 - Jalen Hurts asked on his reduced running this season26:31 - Super Bowl Live Show Tickets go live 1/9/26 at 10am PT28:50 - Washington Huskies former QB Demond Williams Jr has reneged on contract35:28 - Trevor Lawrence the People’s Champ of Duval39:31 - Isaiah Thomas aka Petty Pendergrass45:42 - Play or Fade with PrizePicks50:09 - Q & Aaayyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:31 So listen to good luck with that on IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. John Harbaugh instantly became the hottest Canada, head coaching Canada in the NFL hiring cycle. Two teams with the biggest speculation for Harb services are the Giants and the Dolphins. The Guppies are in the process of interviewing the GM finalist, Chad Alexander, who's very close with Harbaugh.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Alexander is now assistant GM to the charge who spent 20 years with the Ravens over, overlapping Harbaugh for much of that time span. The Giants, the Dolphins, the Titans, Falcons, Browns, Raiders, cars, all have head coaching openings in addition to the Ravens. Ocho, what do you think Harbaugh is looking for? Ocho, anything else, he had just signed an extension in March. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I mean, he just did. That would probably pay him $13, $14 million a year. Yeah. If he's going somewhere else, the decision making, honestly, he's going somewhere where there's a quarterback. as long as his tenure was with Baltimore, he's not going somewhere else where he can last more than three years.
Starting point is 00:02:39 If you go somewhere where there ain't no quarterback, you're going to be in purgatory. Yep. You're going to be in hell. Well, he knows what it was like to have no quarterback because when after Flacco won that Super Bowl, he know what those seasons were until they got Lamar Jackson. Jackson, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:52 He don't want to go through that. He don't want to go through that. And at least he's going to be short, even though he's a Super Bowl winning head coach. at least it's going to be short because the expectation is going to be high as hell. Because he can be coach. Yes. I think the best thing for him, obviously, if he has the opportunity to go to the Giants,
Starting point is 00:03:10 I think that would be the best place for him. That's just me. I mean, he could be like a situation like Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy spent those years at Green Bay. He goes to Dallas. Didn't win anything. They won a bunch of games because he had a quarterback. He was solidified in that position.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Right. You got to be stronger that position. All that other stuff. I get it. All the bells and whistle. Yeah, Y receiver, then running back. If you ain't got that, it ain't a work.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Ain't a word. Ain't nothing popping off. Ain't no sense. I ain't been to hold you. You got to have the quarterback position. Yeah. It is the most important position in sports. Nothing is more important than that.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Nothing. So, wish you, them the best. Me, I think the Giants, because of all the teams that we're looking at, I think their quarterback situation is the most stable. Everybody else has influx. We're not, well, excuse me, the Titans, they're, they're stable.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Yeah, but I don't think. Do they have enough pieces offensively though? Right, right, right. Look, they got Pollard. Pollard had four straight 1,000 yard seasons. Yeah. Uh, they got, they got some solid pieces. Maybe they can use some offensive line help.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Defense is okay, not great. The Giants. Coming back. Yes. But you look at the Giants. I think the Giants defense underperformed. Dexter Lawrence had nine sacks last year. He had a half a sack this year.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Oh, Joe? Yeah. Yeah, you could have you. $22, $23 billion. You can't have a half a sack making that kind of money. Abdul Carter came on strong towards the end of the season. He matured. He grew up.
Starting point is 00:05:00 There's expectations on you, young man. They took the with the third pick in the draft. You can't come late to meetings. You can't be sleep. You can't be bull jiving around. This is a business, son. This is a business. And I was excited to see the way he improved, say, the last month of the season.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Falcons are loaded. Big time. But there's uncertainty at that one position, which is the most important position. Because they got everything else, Ocho. You look at, they got everything else, Ocho. Look at that defense. Yep. Look at that running back.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Yeah. Look at the tidy and look at the receivers. Mm-hmm. You're going to have a piece of offensive line. Probably going to need to get a... Gonzalez did okay at kicking. Yeah. Hey, so, so Kirk, Kirk is back next year.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yes. They redid his deal. Right. They ain't really got no security outside of Kurt. No. They don't. They don't. Like I said, I mean,
Starting point is 00:06:13 three eight, Ocho, how old is Pinnock's, 25 or 26? And three ACLs, Ocho? Oh, yeah, three. I thought it was two. He had two before he got to college. I mean, didn't he have two before he got to the NFL? Yeah. And he messed the shoulder up.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Because remember, he was at Indiana, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, he was at Indiana first. Then he went to, uh, you dug? You dug? You do. I like, I like Clint Kubiak, too. Obviously, I don't, I've been knowing Clint since he was a kid, a kid. a kid kid for real kid.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Right, right, right, right. I played with his dad. His dad was my officer coordinator. You see the job that he's doing in Seattle. Hmm. Oh, Cho, better coach. John Harbaugh, Mike McCarthy. 620 winning percentage.
Starting point is 00:07:10 619. Seasons as a head coach. 16. Mike McCarthy. 17. Playoffs, 12 and 10. Harbaugh. 11-11 McCarthy
Starting point is 00:07:21 Division titles 5 Harbaugh McCarthy 7 Super Bowls won Super Bowl 1
Starting point is 00:07:30 That's about that's by them right down the fence huh That's about even ain't it Yeah That's one of those situations Oh shoot Excuse me
Starting point is 00:07:40 That's one of them situations You can't go wrong Depending on who you pick McCarthy calls plays Harbaugh is mainly an overseer Overseer Yeah Bob was a special teams coach under Andy Reed,
Starting point is 00:07:54 impressed Steve, got the job at Baltimore, think he's done an unbelievable job. And I still believe he's an unbelievable coach. I just needed to believe, I just needed, he needed new people to hear his voice. And the Ravens players needed a new voice to hear.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I believe he's, I believe he's a phenomenal coach. And I believe he will get another job. Yeah. And I think he'll do great. giving you get a quarterback. He ain't going to do great. You don't get a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:08:23 But. That's it. Well, your harbor was it 18 years. How about how long? McCarthy and Green Bay. I would just get rid to ask you how long he was there. What are you like 13? 14?
Starting point is 00:08:47 So he's 18. So it's 18 and 18. 18. You got 16. 18 and 18. Huh? Oh. It's 18 and 18.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Both guys were 18. It's 18 and 18. So Ocho, you see? Overall draft position of quarterbacks in the playoffs. Four first rounders, a second rounder, three-thirds, a sixth, a seventh, 12, 24, 26, 53rd, 62. Trevor Lawrence, Matthew Stafford, Bryce Young. So I'm trying to think who the hell the other number one overall pick?
Starting point is 00:09:40 Not big, no. Mm-mm. Waker didn't make it. Oh, Caleb Williams. Oh. And you got second, C.J. Stroud. You got third, Sam Darnel. Bo Nix.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I think Bo Nix was, what, 12th? That sounds about right. Aaron Rogers was 24th. Jordan Love was 26th. I'm going, Jalen Hertz, 53rd. I'm going Brock Purdy, 262. How did I do? That's right.
Starting point is 00:10:29 With Brock Purdy, that was easy. Jaila Hertz, 53rd. You like that? I think Aaron Rogers was 24th. George Love was 26th. Bo Nix was 12th. The number one is easy. C.J. Stride was two.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Sam Darner was three. Hell, I don't, I'm trying to figure out who I was in the, who I was in the playoffs. Now, Josh Allen, Josh Allen was seven, yeah. Drake, yeah, Drake, May. Drake May was third. He's the other third.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Him and Sam Donnell was third. Same and Sam, yeah. So you see what, you see what to D? Mm-hmm. Yeah. You got 12 first rounders, a second rounder, and a Mr. Irrelevant. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:11:29 But look at the defenses. Very good. Robert Sala was asked, why have his defenses had more success against Saquan Barkley this year compared to previous seasons? I'm going to skip that question from a schematic standpoint. I still think he's elite. I know his production isn't what it was a year ago, but he's still a damn good football player.
Starting point is 00:11:54 He's still a threat to break it anytime he touches the ball. Jeff Soutland is one of the best O-line coaches in all of football in creating good angles and creating space for the back. They can still run the ball as good as anybody. He had a down year. Yeah. I mean, listen, some of the O-line,
Starting point is 00:12:15 some of the O-line was hurt this year. Yeah. No-lane Johnson. No-lane. Your center was banged up. Jurgens. Mackay is gone. Mackay is gone.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I mean. Landon Dixon. It's Dickerson, right? Lander Dickinson. He's been banged up all year. Remember what you? He had surgery right before the season. The season started.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I mean, that quad ain't fired like he's supposed to be so he's putting more pressure on the other leg and he keeps bringing it hurting his ankles and stuff like that my lot of play well lane johnson was looking like lane johnson until he had to live's frame right so the offensive line is not as dominant as it was you saw that in sayquan's play yeah yeah but they still the defense is elite very good you still got a damn good quarterback and if you don't put him away early he'll fire the kind of way to either beat you with a touchdown, excuse me, or getting field goal ranging to kick or kick the field goal. See, season, season zero, everybody O and O now. Yes, right? You got one game, one game to make it happen. Now, which Philadelphia Eagles are going to show up?
Starting point is 00:13:32 I know, I know the defense is going to show up. What offense are we going to get from the Philadelphia Eagles? Lane Johnson is back now. Is he? No, yeah. For the playoffs? And the thing is, oh, Joe, you know, No, the 49ers struggle to get pressure.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Yeah. I mean, hell, no bosa, no Fred. Hell, you got two of the better players in the NFL on defense not playing. Excuse me. Oh, shoot. My bad. Oh, shit. In his midweek press conference, prior to the wild card game against the 49ers,
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Starting point is 00:16:59 Here's his answer. No, I think the season's kind of gone the way it has. The approach this year is how the games have been called and what our coordinator, KP, is just kind of gone that way. And so I've kind of taken it in stride and tried to give my best with what position, whatever position I've been put in. I just run what they call. Yeah, that's it. If it calls me to run, I'll run.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I run. If they call for me to throw, I'll throw. I don't know what y'all want me to say. What y'all is it's fault. Hey, one thing about Jalen, boy, he's going to give you, he's going to be politically correct and say all the right things. At all times. At all times. And most of the time, he's not going to give you what you want to hear.
Starting point is 00:17:39 No. Actually, you're going to give you exactly what you don't want to hear. All right. It's a good job. Hey, every time. But yeah, that's how you stay quarterback. That's how you stay in the position that you're in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:54 You don't ruffle any feathers. You don't say anything inflammatory. And you let people deduce whatever they wanted to do. Right. But at the end of the day, just no, I ain't say that. That's what you took. That's what you took from what I said. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I said, they call a running play for me. I run it. They call a pass play. I try to make the best decision I can. Right. And live with the decision. But y'all know. He called some boy jade this year.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Y'all saw it. I ain't saying nothing, though. Ain't none of my business. They play me the quarterback. Now, if they want to add an extra $10 million, I call my own play. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:41 What I want to do now? He's probably going to, he's probably going to throw up, chat. I don't know what possessed him to take it to the dome like that, chat. You know, I thought, you know, take a little shot here and there. But I definitely, I definitely would not be drinking no Red Bull in no, in no shape. Absolutely not. I don't know what he was thinking.
Starting point is 00:19:13 No, he wasn't. Like I said, he must be wanting to. He tried to stay up late. Nah. He'll be all right. He's going to be all right, Chad. good. But I want to know what, Jay, y'all
Starting point is 00:19:29 let me know what y'all think. What Eagles team you think we're going to get to show up? Fast food don't go with cognate. I mean, you need pasta, you need like parm, or you need a good old steak, you need something like that when you drink with this. We don't do fast food.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I've mixed it, I blend it specifically, not to go with fast food. Okay, okay. This is a sipping cognate. This is a V-S-O-P-A. between, you know, four to six. Right. Some of them much as eight years. Well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:20:07 Matter of fact, my last meal I had was yesterday. I tweeted you. I tweeted you. I went to Sparrow Italia. That's the name of it. I went to listen to some, you know, they got nice music, live music in there. Okay. And I ordered the eight-ounce Wagoo.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Oh, okay. I ordered the eight-ounce Wagyu with some cream spinach and some... They have mashed potatoes? Yeah, but some mad potatoes. No, I keep it simple. I keep it simple. That's me. I'm getting mashed potatoes.
Starting point is 00:20:39 I normally get mashed potatoes, French fries. Sometimes I get corn. Sometimes I like corn because that's the real thing. We got cream corn. My grandma was big on cream corn. A lot of times she creamed the own corn. Right. I hate corn, boy.
Starting point is 00:21:00 No, I love that. I don't like that. I, when you, when you eat corn, I don't like the crunching sound. Well, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's irritating. Make my flesh. There ain't no crunch cream, you, you eating, you're, you eating WK corn. Huh? Whole Colonel Ocho.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Yeah, I, I don't, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know the names. No, I don't, I don't, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like no sauteed. I, I like spinach. When I just get it out, I just get it out to, I just make a salad. Right. Right. Once you start cooking it, I'm out. You're done, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:37 I don't do, I don't do, I don't do, I don't do, I don't do well with sauteed spinach. Every once in a while I'll get something green, but for the most part, I don't eat enough, I've eaten, you know, salads and broccoli and all that stuff at home. So when I go, when I go out, I'm eating, like I said, I get the mashed potatoes.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Sometimes I get, sometimes, you know, some places have mashed sweet potatoes. I'll get that. Yeah. I'll get the French fries, you know, stuff like that. Yeah, you got to come on down here, man, and try that, man. I'm going to come down there, I'm going to come down there. Yeah, I got, huh?
Starting point is 00:22:18 You can stay here. You know, I got by 6-7 room. Now you can stay at, man. Yeah, I got, we hit all the nice restaurants, Sparrow Town proof. Yo, your house soundproof? Oh, now you can't have no company here. Oh, whoa, whoa. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Hey, you can't have no company here. Nah, nah, you, you can come. You good, you know, you know, I got great health, great hospitality. You know, you can stay on the, on, on, on, on, on what I'm supposed to do? Huh? What I'm supposed to do? Well, you got to have company. You might have to go get your room.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Can't have. Oh, so I ain't bringing no money. You say, you say, oh, when you come down here, don't bring no money. It's bringing your ID. You ain't, you got to be no money. Now, listen, but I got to get a hotel. I got to get money. Nah, you good.
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Starting point is 00:23:10 my face clean here, I'm, anything you need. You hear me? Yeah, you, I'm home. You don't got to pay for nothing here.
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Starting point is 00:23:45 That ain't me talking. That's the alcohol talking. That ain't me talking. Hey, oh, no. Yeah. Yeah, but we got, you know. They got them all type down. I heard that.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Oh, yeah. Hey, listen. You got Dominican and the Puerto Rico. But listen. Uh, uh, uh, uh, every, every ethnicity. The Brazilians? Yeah, everything. It's a melting spot. What I got a couple of little people down and the little little,
Starting point is 00:24:11 little sexy ones down there. I saw him out there. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, everything, whatever you need, whatever you need, whatever you need. What diversity at its best. Mm-hmm, okay. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I, I got to take it a booby trap, too, and I got to take it to tussies. Because you got a tussies, they got the seafood rice and lop the tail. You got to try the food. you got to try the food the food is five star and you can use your peripheral vision
Starting point is 00:24:41 while you eat yeah yeah you know it's like magic city go for the wings stay for the thighs you know that was that's that what I heard
Starting point is 00:24:52 I'll only be twice only be twice oh absolutely absolutely it's the place to be hey I feel good now hey I had to throw up man I figured that I feel
Starting point is 00:25:09 a little better now. But hey, I got a little headache. I need some talent, boy. You drink some water. It's right here. This shit ain't working. Yeah, Drake. You just keep running.
Starting point is 00:25:18 You just got to stay hydrated. Look, Jalen hurts. You get judged to a different standard now because you're a Super Bowl winning quarterback. Look, that second round pick, don't nobody care nothing about that. Because Joe Montana was a third round pick. And once he went a Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:25:38 once you win an MVP, you're judged to a different standard. You don't get the same, you don't get judged by the same second round grade. You're a Super Bowl winning, MVP winning quarterback. And that's what people, like I try to get people to understand. Well, y'all don't judge Joe Burrow like you judge Lamar. Joe Burrow ain't got no championship. Right. They won no MVP's.
Starting point is 00:26:03 When they compared Lamar, they said Lamar was the only two time, winning MVP quarterback that's never played in a Super Bowl. Now, his career is not over, but they're just saying right now. Right. There ain't a whole lot of quarterbacks. That's one, two MVP's. So he gets judged against Tom Brady. He gets judged against Aner Rogers.
Starting point is 00:26:29 He gets judged against the Peyton Manning. He gets judged against Steve Young. He gets judged against Joe Montana. That's who he gets judged against. You can't judge him against a Josh Allen. Josh has one MVP. He gets judged against John Elway. He gets judged against Dan Marino.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Right. So that's who you got to, that's who you, that's what they're judging Lamar. Look, I think Lamar is going to play another 10 years. So he has time, he has time to get. to and win a Super Bowl. But you can't say what, you don't judge him like you judge Josh Allen or you don't judge him like you do.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Joe Burrow, you shouldn't. Joe Burrow ain't got no MVPs. Lamar got two. Josh Allen has one. But the guys, they have two MVP's, that's how you judge. Guys, I don't know if y'all remember. Because I know, I know y'all, you like,
Starting point is 00:27:32 this internet age, Joe, Joe, this, what are they, GMZ? They're like, if it didn't happen, If it didn't happen today, when we didn't see it, it didn't happen. It didn't happen at all. But y'all don't remember people eviscerated Peyton Manning for winning those MVP's and not getting to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:27:50 His even own teammate, his kicker criticized him. Oh, Vandajack? Yes. But people forget that. People make it seem like Lamar Jackson has faced the harshest criticism. He has not. No. I give you another example.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I played with a guy. And I heard what was being. said about him. He took a team to three Super Bowls, got crushed, probably had no business being that it'll begin with. They killed him. They killed him. So this notion that Lamar Jackson is somehow receiving unfair criticism is just not true. Because boy, we eviscerated Payton. Yeah. And if you're old enough to remember, you remember. When he got blank, 41 nothing by the Jets. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. When he got beat at home,
Starting point is 00:28:40 Phillip Rivers ended up getting hurt, and Billy Volick came in and beat him. But it comes with a territory, especially when you're great, especially when you're good, at your position, it comes with the territory.
Starting point is 00:28:53 After you win MVP's, hold on, once you win multiple, I mean, you judge differently. I think Lamar understands that. I think the people, obviously, that are fans of the Ravens,
Starting point is 00:29:03 that are fans of Lamar, they don't understand it. No, they don't. You held at it, you held it a different standard. Do a different standard. You just are because you're great. I can't judge him against a normal quarterback.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I got to judge him against quarterbacks. That's one multiple MVP. That's only fair. He's a senior. Why am I judging him against a freshman? Right. He's taking advanced calculus, trigonometry. He's taking AP courses.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Yeah. And you want me to judge him. You want me to judge him against a guy that's a freshman. We can't do that. But Lamar has to the thing is Lamar is not 38 39. Lamar is not even 30. He has a long time to write. He's still writing.
Starting point is 00:29:56 He probably just don't know how long his book is, but he just, he ain't even, he probably ain't even to the middle of it yet, no, not not even close. He got a long way to go. He got a long way to go. Barring injury, making sure he has no more setbacks. He has a very long way to go.
Starting point is 00:30:15 So. Jaylon Hertz gives an opportunity. We'll find out. The 49ers, they get Pyrrissol back. I think Big Trent will be back. That'll definitely help. But they're going to have to be good in the red zone.
Starting point is 00:30:37 They can't kick field goals. You got the score points. Got to. Ocho! Before we move on, we got a very special announcement to make. What happened? Tickets for our Super Bowl live show in San Francisco
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Starting point is 00:31:33 at the Hearps Herps Theater in San Francisco So Bay Area Come through Hey Talk about how happy you are We're back in front of a live audience, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:31:45 You good? I mean, it's been a while since we've been in front of live audience, Ocho Hey, one thing about it, Boy, I'm good in front of crowds, huh? You know, I'm good I'm good in front of crowds, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:54 I'm used to, I'm used to performing and entertaining in front of 70, $65,000. So whatever the Earps, how you say it, the Earps theater? Herps. The Herps, whatever it whole, I'm going to be okay. I'm going to be all right. And we're in the Bay Area too. So, you know, we got to come out.
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Starting point is 00:32:58 com slash night count Thursday night, February the 5th at the Earps Theater in San Francisco. Former Washington Husky's quarterback Desmond Williams Jr. has been dropped by his agent, Doug Hendrickson, after he reneged on his contract with the Husky. Ocho Williams announced Tuesday he would enter a portal after signing a $4 million contract to return to the Huskies for the 2026 season, according to ESPN, P.E. family. Hendrickson said, I've made the decision to end my representation of Desmond Williams, Jr. effectively immediately due to philosophical differences. Sources told FAML that Washington is prepared to pursue all legal avenues to enforce Williams contract. Williams, a sophomore,
Starting point is 00:33:49 threw for 30,000, 65 yards with 25 touchdowns, eight interception. He also rushed for 611 yards and six scores earning all Big Ten honorable mention. Ocho, the kid had a decent season, nothing out of this world. He signed the contract for $4 million and then tried to reneged. What's going on, Ocho? What am I missing? Hold on. Where is he trying to go?
Starting point is 00:34:14 He's trying to go somewhere else? I'm assuming someone else offered him a little bit more money. Someone else offered him a little bit more money. I mean, is there a way if he signed a contract already, right? And is you received money? I think if he's received money, how about you give the money back? that was given to you and then going about your then going about your way
Starting point is 00:34:33 I think that's the only reason that's the only reason I can think of why you dub would seek legal action because we've already paid you. Oh, we paid them some. Yeah, whatever some. Probably they gave the whole thing, yes. Give us some back or give whatever they're giving you back,
Starting point is 00:34:48 you know, and then let wherever it is that's whoever you're talking to behind closed doors that's going to pay you more. I'm assuming that would be the only reason to hit the portal because you know, you're talking to someone else that can pay you more than four million i don't know you had you well but also that's the thing though see you can't take these people money and then and then try to go somewhere else it's a contract that's the contract they used to not be written contracts a
Starting point is 00:35:16 contract is a meeting of the mind shake a hand yeah that's what a contract was it was a meeting of the mind right but you know what there was a lot of people there were a lot of uh uh uh Desmond Williams, juniors, that started backing out and started doing things and it's like, you know what, let's put this thing on this eight by team. Let's get this, hey, here are the parameters. This is what we're going to do.
Starting point is 00:35:38 This is how we're going to do it. Like I said, I wish the young man all the best, but this, this doesn't look good to me. This looked like, this looked terrible. Yeah, they got, they got to get that together. They got to get that together. Is this a kid that's trying to go to LSU? Oh, that's where he tried to sneak to?
Starting point is 00:35:56 Not sneak, but that's what he's trying to go? Who is he talking to? He got to be talking to somebody else. Ain't nobody just walking away from $4 million. Yeah. I mean, why would you go there, bro? You got $4 million. They give you $4 million.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Unless LSU giving you $4 million, what are you talking about? Right. They might be giving them more, huh? And also understanding LSU. Because I think the quarterback, the quarterback from, he just went to Texas Tech from Cincinnati. He got five. Woo.
Starting point is 00:36:53 For one year. One? Godlie. So is this for one year or this for multiple years? It's a sophomore. You're probably going to get more than that. I don't got no problem. As long as you get the money back.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Right. I mean, coach has been doing it. Coach has been signed. I'm going to stay here for five years, six years, and they leave after two. So I ain't got no problem.
Starting point is 00:37:24 But you got to get that money back. Damn. Hey. I'm just, I'm, four million for one year? They don't, they're going to have,
Starting point is 00:37:33 They're going to have to reel them boys in. They're going to have the reel them in. I told you, but you said no. You said you like it. I mean, listen, I like the fact that they're able to make their money, but they can't be playing with these people like this. See, it's situations like this that ruins it. That ruins it for those.
Starting point is 00:37:50 If you're going to commit, commit. Don't take no money. If you're really not sure you want to be there, don't take no goddamn money if you know you're going to hit the portal. Thank you. Wait all your options first. There go a lot of people. Oh, Cho.
Starting point is 00:38:03 know they got like you said they got 3,300 people in the portal. Yeah. Some of them going to be in suspended animation, going to stay in the portal. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, you think you had, okay, you had two tackles. I'm seeing people had 13 tackles.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Where are you going with that? I don't know. Hey, I guess there's a reason. I mean, somebody's in the air, but somebody needs to be honest with some of these kids. Yeah. Because some of these kids are going to be going to be left holding the bag. Yeah. You're right.
Starting point is 00:38:33 And it ain't nothing in it. Hey, 3,000. Because ain't no way in hell 33, 3,300 positions opens, Ocho. Ain't no way in hell. There's 3,300 college, I understand there's 110, 115 schools,
Starting point is 00:38:50 D1 schools. Ain't no way they got out there, all those positions open. Ain't no damn way. Everybody can't be a dog. It ain't 3,000 dogs in that, God damn it, it ain't 3,000 dogs in that portal. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Definitely ain't. It ain't. Demand Williams, Jr., my bad. I said Desmond, Demand, Demand, Williams, Jr. Demand, bro, I hope you got something up your sleeve that we don't know about. Listen, and in order for him to be doing it, he got to know the play already,
Starting point is 00:39:24 because you don't pull a move like that unless it's set in stone. Well, you remember the guy from Tennessee? He pulled a move like that and didn't have anything up, and he got less money. At UCLA, yeah. And he went to a state that had more taxes. More taxes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:37 He left him. to see a no state tax to go to California, which is the highest state tax. Right. Make it make sense, Ocho. A new year doesn't mean erasing who you were. It means honoring what you've survived and choosing how you want to grow. It means giving ourselves permission to feel what we've been holding and knowing that it's okay to ask for help.
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Starting point is 00:41:37 and future of women and gender expansive skateboarding. This week, me and my co-host, Nora Vaskinsellos, and Alex White, we have Fabiana Delphino on the show, a professional skateboarder from Florida, whose grit was forged in a family of athletes. Tune in to hear how she broke into the boys' club, what it takes to be pro, and why just being grateful you're here shouldn't be the price of entry. Maybe the industry thinks that we just started skating five years ago, because that's when they maybe started paying attention. It's a no-fluff conversation about putting in the years, stacking clips and receipts, and still having to prove your worth while the industry catches up.
Starting point is 00:42:11 You break down the door, sick now, like, hold the door for everyone. We created good luck with that because we want to share our experience of existing in an industry that wasn't always built for everyone. So listen to good luck with that on IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. It makes sense. Trevor Lawrence had an interest to start to 26. Oh, you take a look at this video. So video going viral of you, getting squatted at a bar?
Starting point is 00:42:39 Was that on your bucket list for 2026? Yep, it's done. So we can all move on now. I know you guys were worried about it. But yeah, it's pretty just having a good time, I guess. I don't know how I'll describe this. I did not think that was going to happen. But it was interesting.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I have phones now, record everything. So there you go. You didn't think you were going to get squatted or you didn't think it was going to get filmed? I mean, you know, it's not squat. She didn't just pick me up. Be crazy. Be crazy. But, no, I was just having a good time.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Hey, listen, out there, out there having fun. That's it. Out there having fun. But who in the hell hell was that squatting? Boy, she was strong, huh? Hell, yeah. Yeah, for a woman? A woman.
Starting point is 00:43:23 To pick up a grown-ass man. Yeah, yeah. Trevor Lawrence ain't little, man. That's dead weight. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Because you got body hanging and everything. not fixed like a bar. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, she's strong way.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Hell yeah. I wonder if she might. She probably compete. She probably compete. She do something. You J. I don't think women just walk around strong like that to be able to the NFL quarterback. I don't know if I'm trusting the woman to pick me up like that. Oh, oh. They got some. Rolls normally reverse. Wait, hold on. We got some down here could pick you up now. You hit me? No, I won't know. No, you show? Yeah, we got some. We got something. I'm doing the one to pick it up.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Okay. If you're picking up what I'm putting down. Listen, I'm picking up. I'm, listen. I'm here. I'm here what you're saying, but hey, listen, we got a place right here. You know you like to go to the gym, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I got a place you and Jordan could go to. You lose your mind. What? I don't need to get distracted, don't you? Hold on, hold on. Well, listen, any gym you go to a mind, you're going to be distracted. I can tell you that right now. But in the gym, right?
Starting point is 00:44:30 It's a boxing gym, and they have a training, Pilates. They got everything you need. It's called boxer. Oh. Boxer. You know? Interesting. Come on down here.
Starting point is 00:44:41 You and Jordan, go out there and work out. You got two levels. Every amenity you could think of is in there. You hear me? And I tell you one thing. You'll come back on here and you'll say, you'll thank me later. You'll thank me later.
Starting point is 00:44:57 And I'm sure some people in the chat, if anybody in the chat know about Boxer Jim, go ahead and tell about it now. I've been there one time Let me tell you something You know I've been in Houston One time and I ain't been back huh? Yeah
Starting point is 00:45:10 I've been to the gym one time You ain't been back Ain't been back since Well, I don't need to go to Houston We gotta go to the gym in Houston That's only right Who going to the gym of Houston? Me and you
Starting point is 00:45:21 What shit me? The devil is alive And George, because George's gonna get the footage George got to get the footage of me and you working out No, no, no, no Hey listen You go ahead and go to the gym and Houston
Starting point is 00:45:31 And tell me how it was No, hell no. I don't want no part of that. Absolutely not. Ocho, can you imagine? I mean, think about what we see when we just walk in just, can you imagine the gyms? Yeah, man, listen. No, I'm good, man.
Starting point is 00:45:49 I'm good. Listen, there's Ten Commandments and I've been doing right by eight of them. Me too. Yeah, I've been doing right by eight of them. Now, if I can get them last two, I'm going to be straight. Hey, I be thinking about poking my own eyes out. Hey, don't get hit, yeah. I'll poke my own stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:15 But Trell of a little advice, bro. 2026, everything's going to be filmed. Everything's been filmed for the last decade. Oh, yeah. So if you out in public, you being Trevor Lawrence is getting filmed. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Isaiah Thomas is back being petted with his basketball.
Starting point is 00:46:32 basketball nemesis, Michael Jordan, during the appearance on Reddit back, Thomas was asked by his thoughts on the goat debate. This is what he had to say. This is what I don't understand about your era. You guys are playing with arguably the greatest player to ever play, and excuse me when I say this, but y'all treat him like he's nothing. Instead of pumping up your era, y'all go back and say this era was the greatest. You know, Michael Jordan was the greatest. Nobody ever could be greater than Michael Jordan, right? Okay, and you turn around in your era, LeBron James is sitting there holding every single basketball record. I mean every single one of them.
Starting point is 00:47:07 And you're looking at Kevin the Wren, and you're looking at Steph Curry. But then when y'all talk about the greatest, you're talking about the guy that gave you some shoes. Hey, can you help me, help me understand a little something? What is the beat between Isaiah Thomas and Michael Jordan? This feud has been going on for a very long time. I've seen it back and forth.
Starting point is 00:47:26 I mean, I still don't understand what the beef is about? Reportedly, allegedly, Isaiah was the lead that froze Jordan out in his first All-Star game. That's what the reports were. Then, when the Bulls finally took down the pistons, they rushed off the courts.
Starting point is 00:47:52 They didn't shake Jordan's hand. Okay. Jordan then, in turn, it is reported. Sam, I think Sam Smith wrote in the book that Jordan agreed to be on the dream team as long as Isaiah wasn't on the team. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Well, the biggest star in the world was Michael Jordan. You want him on the team. Isaiah deserved to be on the team. Isail is a better point guard than John Stockton. So they've been going at it ever since. Well, that's petty. And it doesn't seem, it doesn't seem that it's ending anytime soon.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Isaiah said, until he gives me an apology, it ain't never going to end. Well, you know, I don't think Mike's going to be one to apologize. Mike probably- I get apologized for issue. I just told, I show hope he ain't waiting on that.
Starting point is 00:48:46 What is, it's a weird feud, but it's one-sided though. Because I ain't heard Mike say nothing. I doubt you- Mike ain't going to say nothing. Not publicly. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:00 That's how he operates. Right. Well, shoot, Isaiah just, I don't know. That's funny. That's funny. Man, poor Isaiah, man. He's feeling left out.
Starting point is 00:49:11 First of all, Ocho, you got to remember, they boycotted it in 80, so he missed an opportunity there to go to the Olympics. The U.S. boycotted. The Olympics was in Moscow, but due to the occupation of the USSR and Afghanistan, President Carter, would not send our Olympic team. Right. the Soviet Union did us a solid. They returned the favor in 84 when it was in LA.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Dang. And they won like a thousand medals. Go back and look it up. And nobody's won as many medals as they did when it was in Russia. Right. Because obviously we weren't there. And there's some other team. But nobody's ever won that many medals like they won.
Starting point is 00:49:58 They won damn to everything. It wasn't close. Yes. But that was when, you know, that was when they had a little, you know, had a little system going on a little. Right, right, right, right. I know you got a lot.
Starting point is 00:50:10 And that was when they had everything up under that umbrella. They had Belarus and everything. And you see how big Russia is, all those countries. That was before the fall in 88. Right. Of communism. So you can understand that Georgia and Armenia and all of them was up under one umbrella. How you compete with that?
Starting point is 00:50:33 But anyway, yeah, Ocho, Zika can't go let it go. I've had a Zika on the show. I talk to Zique. I know Zique. I like Zique. He loves football. He can talk about any sports. He's very thoughtful.
Starting point is 00:50:48 But that's the only thing that's missing on his resume is that Olympic, that dream team. And he knows he's supposed to have been on that team. But that doesn't take away from everything he's accomplished, huh? It doesn't. When they talk about, when they talk about, Ochoa, they talk about the dream. You got the redeem team one. You got a redeem team two. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:07 But everything spurs off. the dream team. Right. He's not a part of that. He's a two-time champ. He's an NCAA champ. He's a most outstanding player in the NCAA in 81. They won the championship over the Tar Hills.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Right. That was also the night. That was also that day Ronald Reagan was almost assassinated by John Hinkley. I remember vividly. Al Wood, Perkins, James Worth, they lost. to Isaiah, I think Randy Whitman, Rinaldo Turner. Right. Because he ended up getting paralyzed that,
Starting point is 00:51:47 I think it out March and April in a car accident. But yeah, that's the only thing missing, Ocho. He feels like his resume would be complete. He's a NCAA champ, most outstanding player. He's a finals MVP. He's a two-time champ. He's an assist leader. He's an all-NBA.
Starting point is 00:52:05 He's an all-star. So you think, You think he would be at peace if he gets an apology from Jordan? And that apology is not going to change anything, especially at this point. I guess he feels that man has impugned his reputation. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, tongue and cheap, but I'm just saying it feels to me that's the way he feels.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Right. Yeah. I mean, if I was him, I'd be, man, you know, it is what it is. I mean, what I've done, my legacy is cemented, all my accomplishments, my resume, it is what it is. All right, Ocho. Time to play. A fade presented by prize picks.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Indiana, Oregon's game. Charlie Becker will have at least 46 receiving yards, more or less. Charlie Beck will be cooking. I'm going more. More, more, more. Dante Moore will have less than 223 passing yards. I'm going less. You think so?
Starting point is 00:53:25 Less? Yeah. Yeah, that Indiana defense boy. They for real. It is the real deal. I'm going less. Fernando Mendoza, Mendoza will have at least two TD passes. More.
Starting point is 00:53:40 More. Klon Black, more than 0.5 rush touchdown. So if he just has one, that's a more. I'm going more. Yeah, I'm sure. So I'm going more, less, more. More. So Charlie Becker will have at least 46 receiving yards.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Dante Moore will have less than 223 passing yards. Fernando Mendoza will have at least two touchdown passes and Kailon Black will have at least a touchdown. Those are my picks. They're right there for you. $25 to win $125. Download the app today. Use Coach Shannon to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5. first $5 lineup.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Prize picks. It's good to be right. Oh, Cho, did you know this? Men spend $15,000 a year on their girl while women spend less than $1,300. God dang. Wait, hold on, hold on. Say that again? A study says man spends about $15,000 a year on girl, women,
Starting point is 00:54:50 while the woman spends about $1,300 on men. On average, men spend significantly more money on dates, guests, travels, dining, shared experience over the course of a relationship. These costs often includes meals, entertainment, transportation, and holidays, which traditionally fall more heavily on a man, especially early in the dating and long-term partnerships. Women, by contrast, tend to spend less overall on their partners, focusing more on personal experiences, shared household costs rather than direct romantic spending. Researchers note that social expectations, dating norm, and income, dispensate.
Starting point is 00:55:26 disparities contribute heavily to this imbalance, reinforcing longstanding patterns around who pays and how the relationships are financially constructed. I mean, listen, it has nothing to do with relationships either, because most of the time, these aren't even relationships and 15,000 is pretty low, especially when it comes to some of the guys that lead with money and do some of the things that they do do in the beginning, you know, Chanel, purses, he. He is now. You know, Bergen's here. Man, man,
Starting point is 00:55:56 you go, snap you upside your head. You go show up with a Chanel. Yeah. You, or YSL or Dior. You, they won't burking off the real.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely. So you, you got those, those numbers are terribly low, terribly low based on those that are, especially those that are in the 1%.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Those are in the 1%. We talk about if you get the right one that actually has to like you, he has to like you first. We talk about, yeah, you can get a, you get a house, you get a car,
Starting point is 00:56:22 you get a condo, you get a apartment. There's levels to it. Yeah, for sure. There's levels to it, obviously, depending on who you're dealing with. But that right there is the bottom of the barrel. 15,000 throughout a relationship.
Starting point is 00:56:33 I mean, you catch the right guy. You get 15,000 in a week, depending on who you are. Depending on how bad you are. I mean, those are the numbers that happen. So, I mean, it's unfortunate that those are the times that we're in. Most of the time, you know, it works. Not all women are like that.
Starting point is 00:56:52 But for the most part, If you leave with money, you got enough of it, you can get whoever the hell you got damn won't. Everything has a price to it too, huh? Ocho. Talk to me. No comment. It's time for our final segment of the evening.
Starting point is 00:57:10 It's time for Q and A. Hey, you know what? I forgot my story. We're back on here. This one. We got Saturday. We got Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Save it, save it.
Starting point is 00:57:24 We got plenty of time. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. All right. Kimber Northwood Jr., Happy birthday, Ocho. Love you, man. Appreciate that, appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Hey, I look good to be 58, boy. Everyone thing about it. Drake quotes 8592. Not an Ole Miss fan, but that should have been a flag on that last play. Even if it was a flag on the last play, it was only 15 yards. It wasn't a spot file. So I doubt with two, three seconds. No time on top.
Starting point is 00:57:57 It's been an untimed down. Yeah. Jay Breezy, go Keynes. I'm excited. We nattie bound, Ocho. Oh, yeah. Man, I can just imagine with Mike. Man, Mike, out of the damn mind right now.
Starting point is 00:58:11 I didn't get a chance to see any footage because we started the show. I know he were going crazy. Bad, man, you know, Michael. I know he were going crazy. I'm going to call to the bar because I already know he doesn't lost his voice. I already know he doesn't lost his voice. Mm-hmm. Jay Rock, UM-Kaines, Carson,
Starting point is 00:58:30 heck a dog. Look, had me a little nervous on that last drive. But you can see because he does make throws. That one throw, he was tremendous anticipat, uh, anticipation, uh,
Starting point is 00:58:44 anticipation. Yeah, I get it right eventually. Oh, Joe, when he ran that dig route? Oh, yeah, that was nice. Yeah, man. Hold on. Hey, Unk, Malachi ran the whip, the holder, the holder, the hold of the goddamn middle backer.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Yes. He threw it right, right behind his ear. Yep. That was a good one. Central Cass, Ocho, can I be your tech guy? Stop being cheap. I said I'll do it for free, but you don't even give me a chance to prove my worth.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Hey, I have a tech person. Yeah, I should, hey, I wish you to came to me about two, three years ago. I could have got you for free. Shit, Jordan didn't come for free. Joy. Jordan had his contract. He wanted memberships and the move. He wanted a bonus.
Starting point is 00:59:30 I'm like, damn. Young Willie Wille, what's up, Uncle Ocho? Can I get a birthday shout out? I know last year I said if Ocho didn't run your money, it would be the last one. Ocho, pay Uncle's money. Absolutely. Young Willie, man, thank you.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Happy birthday. Happy birthday, boy. Nightcap, Ocho and I, we can't thank you enough. But yeah, man, you might need to run the fade on Ocho, man. Make him pay my money. Yeah, wait, yeah, whatever you want to run, run it. The Florida man. Oh, is it true?
Starting point is 01:00:03 You consider a train. transfer into the U. I did. 1987 had a couple of conversations, but you know what? My brother said they didn't want you when you came out. Nope, you're not going. Hey, my dad, I should have win anyway. No, I'm pop.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Spoken word, don't you know, spoken word? Hey, a spoken word is special. I'm going to have one. I'm going to have a spoken word for you. Probably, uh, I got to think some, I need a situation to happen because that one with Tyler Loop, that was very dope. That was very dope. Yeah, that was good.
Starting point is 01:00:36 one, Ocho. That was really. That was a good one. That was a good one, boy. Yarlah, uh, Miami, back on the market. Go U.M. They look good. One win away. Hakeem. Jha. What's up, Ocho. Can I get a shout out? It's my 28th birthday on January tonight. Happy birthday twin. Yes, Hakeem, happy birthday. Happy birthday, bro. Have you got something fun playing. Hopefully you're going to do something, uh, uh, you and your lady or you and your family, youth friend, family friends and loved ones, whatever the case may be, bro. But celebrate it, enjoy it. Hey, a lot of people that make their birthday, man.
Starting point is 01:01:14 So you made another one. You made another one. Caleb Dennis, Ocho. Your aunt can't get to the game with you. I'm willing. I need, I'm going to need help covering that ticket price. Go Kane. I'm trying to think, I'm trying to think when the last college game I went to.
Starting point is 01:01:34 I ain't on a lie, bro. I haven't been to a college football. football game, Savannah State, 2011. Oh, it's been a minute. Been a minute. I got my Hall of Fame jacket. Before that, it was 2000. Yeah, I went to a college basketball game now.
Starting point is 01:01:54 I'm trying to say, I went to the college basketball game. I watched Louisville beat Michigan in the National Championship game because the game happened to be played in Phillips Arena. So I went, but, man, college football, man. God, it's just too many people, Ocho, too many. No, we're going to be a sweet. I got a joke for y'all boys. Who's delusional and think they have rings to kiss?
Starting point is 01:02:19 Bill's Mafia. Hey, Ocho, we're going to talk about this a little later, but, hey, I don't know if it's going to get any better for Josh Allen than what he got it this year. Oh, yeah, this is it. No, my home boy, his nemesis who he's never beaten the postseason. Right. No, your guy.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Joe. Joe and no Lamar. Now, obviously, he's beat Lamar twice in the postseason, but he's not going to have it any better. Not going to have it any better than what he got it right now, especially to get to a Super Bowl. Now, I'm not saying what's waiting for him on the other side. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:59 But Jamal Parris SSC. Oh, I love the Mike Epps interview. Listen to you guys around and replaying. today on my birthday. I turned 37. Can I give? Please get a birthday shout out today. Absolutely. Jamal, happy 37th birthday, man. And thank you for your support. Thank you for watching. Man, Mike and I, we had a great time, bro.
Starting point is 01:03:21 We had a great time. And that's why I love comedians, because comedians is that they're entertaining. They can tell a story. Yeah, their story. But no matter what, they can make it funny. Because he's telling the story like, man, I was going to go to the military, but I flunked the test. I say, damn, Mike, you flunked the test? I said, they're looking for a few good men to die.
Starting point is 01:03:42 I said, you, you couldn't even die. He said, man, go ahead on. I ain't the only one. But, man, Mike, look, he, Mike is amazing, man. Like I said, I just love hearing their stories. And everybody has a different story to tell. There's some, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:03 some comes with a lot of sadness, and they take that pain, and they turn it into laughter. And I think he described it best. he's like his tears of a clown. Hmm. Because while I'm making you laugh, I'm crying inside. Inside. But I love, I love him.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Hbell, OG. Yeah, Ocho. Go ahead and clock out player. Flium, 44, 58. Ocho, it's our birthday, Twillardt, tell them to play some Sinatra at Boobie Trap. Hey. Hey. Baby.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Happy birthday, Flem. Feltie McNathy, your Ocho, watch. out that BSOP will put some hair on your chest. Keep dragging like that. You won't make $59. Don't worry about it. I'm done. That's it. We got them of bitches.
Starting point is 01:04:56 We'll be drinking there too? No. Oh, yeah. I'm done. It's just Kobe. Happy Birthday. Oh, Joe. Pray God blesses you today. Thank you, man. I appreciate everybody that leaves these and watch the show and support the show. I think we had $26,000 in the chat
Starting point is 01:05:12 tonight. Man, we cannot thank you enough. Yeah. De Rico Ocho, that Yank, gonna put hair on your chest. Happy birthday, 85. Appreciate it. Terrell Bullard. Everybody put a bottle symbol in the chat for Ocho's birthday.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Tana folk music, this is nightcap. I know and love. Thank you. Bro, appreciate it. Hey, as bad as 25 was, 26 is going to be even better. Hey, it's off to a beautiful start already. You're up to a great start.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Aaron Jones, Ocho, the professional live. folks he drank many times in life he took a swig from that bottle like it was Pepsi yeah he's suffering he take it yeah he uh he ain't doing too good right now i don't know how somebody gonna tell me i drink oh they got a little bottle of the shade would you make that uh vet underscore trad 97 ocho got to do spell osico segment after a couple of more sips man that joke ain't gonna spell nothing Marchion Hunter, happy birthday, Ocho, and everyone else in the chat that's celebrating,
Starting point is 01:06:20 please give a shout out to my nephew, Kobe Martin running back, who plays for Indiana. We shall, we shall. Marchion, thank you for tuning in, bro. Kobe, happy birthday, good luck tomorrow, stay healthy, and I guess I should root for the Hoosers, huh? They got a lot of my money. My daughter got a doctor degree from Indiana.
Starting point is 01:06:45 I might have to wear my hooves. I had two girlfriends that went to Indiana. Damn, too? Yep. Damn. Yeah, y'all felt like y'all like, are y'all surprised I had girlfriends? You're surprised I had two that went to the IU.
Starting point is 01:07:05 I mean, the fact that you had two that went to IU. Do low God say, happy birthday, my guy. You can cancel that gym trip tonight. That drink gonna have you work, and work right out of the crib. You and baby be safe tonight. Yeah, he ain't going tomorrow. Louis Ramos, happy birthday, go.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Enjoy that drink. This should cover your bottle of the cheap air. All love. Love you too, Unk. Appreciate it. Lady Ray, Ocho. If you start your own version of Club Shaysay, you better call it Club Pepe.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Cheers, happy birthday. Slow down on that cognac, Ocho. Nick said, hey, Unk, love the show. What do you think the greatest show on turf would have looked like and with today's rule? Oh, my goodness. Oh my goodness. I can't have imagined what they would look like.
Starting point is 01:07:55 And the way you can't touch receivers now with Kurt pulling the trigger with Oz and Tor. Oh, man. That wouldn't be fair. CDSX caliber. What's up, Mr. Sharp. Happy birthday, Ocho. I've been here since the beginning.
Starting point is 01:08:09 I'm from North Carolina. We love to volunteer at the Charlotte venue for Nightcap. We'll keep that in mind, bro, when we head that way. Hey, what part are you from? Oh, you said Charlotte? I thought he was talking about Ralea. No, he ain't from that part. JJ Carver 80.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Ocho, birthday plan, sleep, chugging that drink like sweet tea. Coach him up, unc. He got to do something for two something. Happy birthday, Bingham, and Atlanta Fell Legend, wishing you many, many, many more. Now, hey, he's going to go to bed to my baby.
Starting point is 01:08:40 I'm about to tell you. Hey, hey, I got a little headache, I need some Tylenol. Well, see, if he was heading, see what you should have did. to, you know, go and pop that old spark. Nah, shh. Nah, boy.
Starting point is 01:08:56 Not, not feeling like this, boy, I'm sweating. I'm going, but I'm going to bed, but I'm going to take this. I'm going to pop this house. No. You ain't going to do nothing on your birthday? Oh, no, I ain't got time for that. Matter of fact, no, you know, we ain't scheduled to do nothing tonight.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Oh, I got, I got, you should have got a quick end for you came on. Oh, no, oh, no. You know, you know, I do everything by schedule. I ain't got, I ain't got time. I scheduled that. Nah, hey, listen, our schedule is on a refrigerator. No, but what you should have did, you should have like, Oh, yeah, yo, yo, yo, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Oh, she got to get that. No. I don't know what you doing. Nah, hey, listen. T.F. She has car watch detail service up. Do the NFL get paid weekly because NBA can get their full or do six months or do full or six months and six months? You get paid 18 weeks.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Now, I guess you theoretically could. You could ask them to spread it out over the thing. But normally you get paid over 18 weeks. Yeah. and so you budget accordingly. I mean, that's how I've always gotten paid. I mean, I've deferred some money and took, you know, 5% interest on it.
Starting point is 01:10:04 But they don't like me to do that because I'll be holding on to the check for like three months when they said it to me. And the NBA, they get paid in chunks like that? I think they get paid monthly. Oh, they do? Okay. Monthly or biweekly, but you can spread it out. You can take it all in the six-month period that you play
Starting point is 01:10:20 or you can get it spread out over the year. Obviously, if, you know, you're not good with your money, it probably be best to spread it out. Spread it out, yeah. Landau, 56, a happy birthday, Ocho. Appreciate it. Thank God I'm black. Miami has a tradition, but they're on a Cinderella run.
Starting point is 01:10:39 I hope this doesn't make the Raiders want to drive Beck. Ocho, need to go to the tent after chugging liquor like Kool-Aid. I'm good, I'm good. Shake Hollins. Uncle Ocho, love the show. birthday was yesterday one zero eight can I please get a birthday shout out much and much much appreciated also happy birthday Ocho shake happy birthday happy belated birthday bro hopefully you'd have some fun did something really fun with
Starting point is 01:11:04 family friends and loved one or maybe you got someone special in your life that you got an opportunity to spend some time with congratulations on seeing another birthday bro you're very very fortunate Irvin Magin 54 42 new year interest goes up I think 7,900 now Ocho going to wake up tomorrow thinking James Harrison, knock them out. No, I put another $600 interest.
Starting point is 01:11:27 So interest, I mean, you probably get 8%. So 8%, yeah, Ocho, you owe me probably about another 400, so about $6,400. Neo Reaper 82,
Starting point is 01:11:37 the 10 worst team than the league is who may play. He had one win against a winning team, and it was Buffalo Bills, which also lost two. People really need to stop talking about the MVP. talk. I think he's going to finish second in the MVP discussion. I think Matthew Stafford's going to win it. I do. I think Matthew Stafford's had an MVP season. It's the only
Starting point is 01:11:58 thing that he doesn't have on his resume. He won a Super Bowl. And I think he's going to win the MVP. That's me personally. I don't have a vote. I used to, but I don't anymore. Terry Bullitt said, hey, Ocho, uh, meet me at Tussie tonight. It's on me. Hashtag night cap. Well, we y' out. What? What we out? What? Killer Canby. Oh, you know, don't want nothing from twosies but the wings. Jay Breezy 37, I got a question in that play on the goal line because why go man and leave a spy on bet? I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:12:35 I don't understand the play call. I mean, would you really put a spy on Beck when he was really not known as a dual threat quarterback? He's not, no. Nah, you know, dual threat. I can see if it was Josh Allen. That's a different story. Maybe if it's Trinidad Chamblis, I do that.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, not the other way. I'm not doing that with him. No. And, like, look, they ran a stop route, and then everybody started flowing because if you notice, Betts started drifting to his right. Right. So now Tony goes to his right.
Starting point is 01:13:07 The other DB at the back of the end zone, the wide receiver goes to his back. So it pulls everybody that way. And so once he breaks that line, yeah, and the D end bubbled on the outside. He then bubbled all the way around. So it was open lane. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy, happy birthday,
Starting point is 01:13:25 Ocho. If I could have any signed soccer jersey, excuse me, if you could have any sign soccer jersey, which one would it be? Any sign soccer jersey? Ooh, oh, oh. Oh, that's a good one. I didn't got all my signs so far.
Starting point is 01:13:53 You know what? I probably Mbapé. Mbapé is the only one I haven't met yet. And Boppe is the only one I haven't met yet. of really all of old players and current. Mike, Mike, happy birthday, Ocho, Unk. Can you hook up birthday boy Ocho with 5900
Starting point is 01:14:10 Boy's birthday celebration? Love the pod, keep it up, absolutely not. Supply underscored Demand 101, happy birthday, Ocho, love you and Unk. If you hit that Browns, stay in town, player. Quentin Polinsky, happy birthday, Ocho, when you and Unk, go and hunting.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Now we talk about. Now we're talking. Now we're talking. That's what I'm waiting on. Hey, hey, I'm, listen, I don't think y'all people don't understand where when I, me hunting. Probably about two months, I'm gonna be two-legged hunting. Two-legged, what that mean? Huh?
Starting point is 01:14:46 Two-legged hunting. What that mean, huh? Don't worry about it. When you wake up in the morning, it's like, man, what he said, two-legged hunting? You'll realize what I mean. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap, as you watch the nightcap,
Starting point is 01:15:02 Miami Hurricanes advanced to the national championship game thanks to a 31 27 victory over Ole Miss. Ole Miss threw a hell Mary in the end zone. There was some, some touching and grabbing, but no penalty was called and they advanced 3127 Carson Beck's four-yard touchdown run with 18 seconds was the difference in the ball game as the U advancing. And they play in Miami for the national championship game. That stadium is going to be rocking.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Carson Beck was 23 of 37, 268, two touchdowns, one interception. Mark Fletcher Jr., 22 carries, 133 yards. Trinidad Chambliss did not play bad. 23 attempts, 37 yards, 23 attempts, 23 completions, 37 attempts, 27 attempts, 27, 27 attempts, 27 17 yards, 27 attempts, 27 yards, 27 yards, 17 yards, 17 yards, 17 yards, Lacey had 11 carries for a buckle three. They didn't have the ball a whole lot, but they did a lot with what they did have. But they did not win tonight.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Miami advances to the national championship game. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite. There is my partner and co-host, Liberty City's own Bengals, Ring of Fame, Honorary, a former pro bowler and an all pro. He's Chad Ochosinko Johnson. Please hit that subscribe button. Please hit that like button.
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