Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Hunter NFL Draft, Falcons mess, Ja’Marr shows love to Tee

Episode Date: December 22, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Travis Hunter reportedly entering the NFL Draft as a CB. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss the Atlanta Falcons expecting to cut Kirk Cousins before his $10M roster bonus is due, the Cincinnati Bengals’ Ja’Marr Chase tells Tee Higgins they are “stuck together and locked in for life” and much more!03:13 - Travis Hunter entertaining entering draft as CB08:43 - Travis Hunter challenges Ocho 1v1 for Heisman11:30 - Falcons will cut Kirk Cousins19:25 - Jamarr Chase and Tee Higgins24:05 - Myles Garrett gives Browns ultimatum29:00 - Saints prepare Spencer Rattler for weather33:25 - Ricky Henderson passes away37:40 - Q & Ayyyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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entering the NFL draft as a cornerback and working out as a cornerback at the NFL Combine. Some NFL scouts reportedly believe Hunter will come close to running between 4-2 425 and 430 in the 40 many scouts also reportedly believe hunter should be the first overall draft pick in the 2025 draft a heavy amount of nfl executive reporting will use hunter as a full-time corner and a part-time receiver if he's on their roster is hunter the best unicorn ocho yeah everybody tried that's all we've ever said yes sir all we've ever said ocho you and i and many that if he's on their roster, is Hunter the best unicorn? Ocho? Yeah. Everybody tried.

That's all we've ever said. Yes, sir. All we've ever said, Ocho, you and I and many that listen to us, he can play one full-time position, but he'll play a part-time other position. Right. How you going to tell that man what he going to do?

Because I know the game. If you played the game, we understand how hard it is to play one position. Full game. You're not playing two positions every single snap. You're just not. I said, Bill, have packages for him where he comes in

and he does what he does. What people need to understand, I'm going to let you finish on, people need to understand once you get to the next level, I don't think people are taking into account on how elite the talent is once you hit the NFL level. They don't. people are taking into account on how elite the talent is. Once you hit the NFL level, they don't week to week, you know,

team to team. You think about it. Can you imagine you play for, I'm trying to think of a good, let's say you play for the Broncos and you got Patrick Sertain on one side, and then you're going, you're going to play receiver and take away some of Cortland Sutton snaps. Like,

like you have to, maybe I'm using a bad analogy and using the wrong team, you know? I think the thing is, Ocho, because here's the thing. Because, okay, he's going to go against, let's just say for the sake of argument, he goes against Key Higgins, he got Jamar Chase. Right. He would always be against the number one. So let's say he's covering Jamar Chase.

Okay. Now you got your hands full. Now you're going to go over there and play wide receiver? I like it. I like it. Every snap? Yeah. All we said, look, I'm not saying that he can't do it,

but the greatest athlete, I saw two great athletes. I saw Bo Jackson and I saw Ty. Yeah. And I'm old enough. Like I said, I think I'm a year younger than Ty. And I saw Ty. Yeah. And I'm old enough, like I said, I'm only, I think I'm a year younger than time. And I saw time at his apex. He played full-time corner

and he had packages at wide receiver. Which is why I think that's how they're going to use Travis. That's all we've ever said. But people got upset with me,

talking about, no, he's going to play every snap at DB and every snap at corner. And I said, no, he's not. I don't, you know,

it's funny, I don't even think an NFL exec or a team or owner or a head coach would even allow that no I'm not I don't even think they would allow that nah I get I get diminishing returns

because okay if you go how you gonna give me 100% at DB and 100% because look college is college that's one thing. We've seen great college players not be able to handle it in the NFL, regardless of position. Right.

Offensive line, defensive line, wide receiver, DB, quarterback, whatever the case, running back, whatever the case may be. And to play at that level. Yeah. Every game. And you know what? I never thought it was a possibility. I always thought

he could be a full-time. And I told Ocho, what did I tell you? I said, Ocho, he's going to be a DB. And then they'll put packages in it for him. Like, okay, we come in with our nickel package or our spread formation, Ocho. You know, we go five wides, something like that. You know, and when I sat

back and I thought about it, right? And I sit back and think about it there there's always there's always a special individual there's always a person there's always a unicorn that changes the narrative and does some of the things that we say they can't do where they're so good at what they do a team if going to the right situation finds a way to utilize them a little bit more than often as opposed to what we're used to seeing, being that it's never been done before. The fact that we've seen Travis do things at the collegiate level that have never been done before because he's such a special, unique talent. What happens if a team, he goes to the right situation, even as a full-time DB, and then he plays more snaps than normal on the offensive side of the ball because he is that

special. He is that dynamic with the ball in his hands. Them legs. Like you said, those guys are really, really good. Yeah. Even,

even the third and fourth receivers. Yeah. They were number one and two at the other place they were at. Yeah. Cause guess what? A lot of those guys look, and I think he's a phenomenal talent. Oh yeah. But a lot of the guys look and i think he's a phenomenal talent oh yeah but a lot of the guys that he's going against at db a lot of guys that he's going against at wide

receiver they ain't gonna be in the nfl every guy that he go against on sunday guess where he's at in the nfl yeah yeah yeah and boy look here when all i hear about is they talk about how good you are oh you best believe i'm going to be on my best behavior you will absolutely get Shannon Sharpe's best game yeah oh yeah listen

when it comes to competing and practice huh you coming in as a number one or that number two pick I got to see why oh you got to show me I got to see why

you got to show me matter of fact I did the man broadcast on Peacock Day. And me and Trey, we was talking a little trash, right? I told him, he's talking about, let's lace him up. I said, okay, well, let's lace him up for that Heisman. You get 10 routes.

If I get open one time, I get to hold your Heisman for a whole year. Say no problem. No problem. I believe you can get up. I believe you better get up on that. I believe you better get up on that first route believe you better get up on it. I believe you better get up on that first round. Because after that, your knees, your hips, your ankles, they're going to be aching so bad.

My mind knows what to do. Now, I don't know if my brain is going to register and my body is going to operate like it's supposed to like goddamn 20 years ago. Oh, man, it was a good time i'm happy i'm happy for young bull though man i am too i'm happy but i like i said if i think it's contingent do i believe he's the best player in the draft absolutely absolutely but here's the thing uh-huh if i need a quarterback i'm not taking the best player in the draft well listen number one the number one the number one

the team that is drafting number one and drafting number one because they don't have a quarterback at the helm. And it's going to be Shador. It's going to be Shador. And number two is going to be Travis Hunter. I'm telling you, they're going one and two. They're going one and two unless something drastic happens. But those are the two talents that you can't pass up because the number one team, whoever's picking first, they need a quarterback. You're right.

They do. It has to be the ideal situation. So I'm either going to the Giants or the Raiders doing something to hop up to number one and snatch him up. And I'm not sure who has the number two pick. Yeah, but I'm glad I got an opportunity to see it. Like I said, I remember when Champ came out and Champ was a DB. And Champ was an outstanding DB.

I mean, he's an All-American. And I saw him on the offensive side of football. Champ had like four or five touchdowns. But we've never seen a guy be this good on the offensive side. Even Woody, Charles Woodson. Charles ran back punts. He got a couple of plays on offense. But Charles wasn't this good on offense.

Now, maybe they were a little bit more polished as a DB. Yeah. Because Champ footwork was second to none. wasn't this good on offense. Nah. Now, maybe they were a little bit more polished as a DB. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Because Champ Footwork was second to none. That, hey, my homeboy, hey, from Charlton County, hey, man, he get in and out of that break, boy, hey, he had some feet on him. Very nice. Very nice.

And he had some feet on him. Great, great ball skills. But Trav, when you talk about the combination of offense and defense, I haven't seen anything like it. Now, I didn't see time in college. You know, time was a DB. Obviously, time won the Thorpe Award. Time ran back punts.

I don't know if time played. I had talked to him. I mean, I ain't bothered because I know he getting ready for the bowl. When they play the bowl game, the 28th? When time to play wait who is who is colorado playing in a bowl game again byu oh oh yeah byu ain't no slouch boy they play the 20th yeah okay okay the

28th okay they do play the 20th yeah yeah yeah yeah you ain't no slouch they nice no no no no they not they nice that. That's going to be a good game. Very good game. Oh, Joe, the Falcons are expected to cut Kirk Cousins before the $10 million roster bonus due. This will reportedly cancel the rest of the $180 million that included the $100 million guarantee. Yeah.

Huge. What you think? Huge error? But hold on. How much of the money is he still going to have? Don't he got... Wow. Hey, listen.

It canceled the last 80. So he's still getting $100 million because he made $62 this year and he's going to make $38 next year. Yeah. Hey, listen. They're going to save face. You can't save face. And that was my, Ocho, we had this conversation. I said, Ocho, it doesn't make sense.

Yeah. I said, at best case scenario, you're going to get one year out of Cousins. You better tell me he's not, there's only one quarterback that I'm paying $100 million, and that's Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. If he ain't getting no $100 million, I damn sure ain't giving Kirk Cousins no $100 million. You have to understand, you know how the business works. You understand the

importance of having a quarterback at the position, even though the quarterback, the said quarterback in question right now has only one playoff game. You know what you get from him in the season. What's that? It's simple. Oh, you cold? Yeah, I ain't cold. I the example. Oh, you cold?

Yeah, I ain't cold. I'm cool. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you understand. Look at the paint. Look at the paint. Look at it.

You see the logo? I got mine. Don't worry about it. You're going to see me in mine every day from now on, whenever it's time to travel. Yeah, but you understand why, you know, teams pay for the quarterback position like that because in order for your team to function, you got to have a quarterback.

You know what you got. Well, the Falcons are malfunctioning, so what am I paying for? Hey, listen. It is the Michael Penix Jr. show from now on. I know that. Lucky lefty what's that what size is that double it looked like a robe almost it's big you know what i'm saying don't you okay okay i see you yeah i can't i can't wait till I get home to mine. Oh, this

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You know what time it is? Something about that, hey. What it do? I about to, hey. You better not be no up. I about to run down. Yeah, yeah. But Ocho, when we talked about this, I said, Ocho, let's just say at the best case scenario, you get two years.

Yeah. Worst case, you get one year. Yeah. Ocho, you about to pay this man $100 million. Yeah. million. Yeah, I mean, listen, for us, you know, for the casual fan not understanding, you understand how teams work. You understand how owners work and how

bad they need a quarterback. I was about to make that kind of mistake on me. Sometimes you have to overpay. Now, that's the one... Joe, you remember... What happened? Guys used to get paid and they're like, oh, we made a mistake. I get paid, and they made a mistake.

I'm like, why can't nobody on the team make a mistake on me like that? Give me $12 million. Give me $14 million and send me on my damn way. Hey, it's only one. A hundred. Oh, Joe. Actually, and I said this on first tape. I said they got President Trump as Time Magazine Person of the Year.

That's Kirk Cousins' agent. Kirk Cousins' agent should be Time Magazine Person of the Year. Yeah. Do you know how many Cousins has made? Oh, yeah. He done made a great one. For one playoff win? Yeah.

He done made a good one. I'm thinking about getting him. But I love my team. So I'm just playing Josh and Marvin but man Lord have mercy and listen you gotta understand he bet on himself twice

he bet on himself twice and then it's all about he got the franchise tag twice and then he goes to Minnesota they fully guaranteed the contract for the first time in NFL history they fully guaranteed and guess what the first time in NFL history. They fully guaranteed. And guess what they did?

He played so well. Hey, you know, Kirk can light you up. You ain't going to win nothing, but he's going to light you up. They fully guaranteed the next contract. So you think about this. Franchise tag, fully guaranteed. Franchise tag, fully guaranteed. He got three years, fully guaranteed.

He got another three years, fully guaranteed. And then Burt Cullors got eight years of fully guaranteed money. Yeah. Yeah. See? And one thing about Kirk, too, you know, he's a child of God, too, now. He's a child of God. And one thing about it, your cup will runneth over if you continue to put that man at the forefront.

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I love the idea, though. I love Joe Burrow. Joe, I love you. Chase, I love you. Tee, boy, you know how I feel about you, boy. You know how I feel about you. But to get what you deserve, stay with me now. Listen to me, T. I know you're going to see this. To get what you deserve, it's going to be hard. It's going to be hard. Y'all need to understand the business aspect of things. T, you work your ass off, T, to get where you at,

to get to Clemson, to get to the NFL. All the hard work you've put in, you deserve to be paid as the receiver that you are. You are a fucking number one receiver. You hear me? And we're one of the two teams, one of the few teams in the NFL that has been fortunate to have two number one receivers. Now it's time for you to be paid as such. I would love to see you stay with the Bengals. I would love it, me, as a Bengal.

But then I'm able to separate my stay with the bangles i would love it me as a bangle but then i'm able to separate my love for the team and understanding what you deserve as it be real artwork you put in this is this is me and you know how i am i'm bangles everything so i i just i i love the idea though man i love joe and then what joe would be willing to do i'm not sure how they can they can work contractually, where they can make it happen. Defensively, we need help. Defensively, we need help.

We need pieces in certain places that will allow us to compete in that AFC North division. Well, guys. Because everybody else is getting big. But you got, come on, man. I understand you love the city. You love your boys. But me, personally, I want what's best for you and this is coming from i'm i if i cut myself right now i bleed black and orange but i want you to get what you deserve

black because you don't put the words black you deserve it ain't nothing orange come again just black ain't nothing orange Oh, Joe. What's up? Chase. Talk to me, man. Joe, you see your offense. Even though y'all putting up these numbers, look at y'all losing. You're not going to win.

Go back and look. Even the greatest show of turf in 2001, they got beat. Yeah. The Broncos scored the most points in NFL history. They got beat. The Patriots, they got beat. The Washington football team,

before they became that, you know, the Indian name, they got beat. If you cannot stop somebody, you can't score enough points to do it, to win. You just can't. can't the NFL history has

shown that I just gave you the four highest scoring teams in NFL history Minnesota Vikings they got beat before they got to the Super Bowl go back and look at the 83 Washington team they got beat go back and look at the

2007 Patriots they got beat go back and look at the 83 Washington team they got beat go back and look at the 2007 Patriots they got beat go back and look at the 2013 Broncos they got beat hey I want everybody to get their money but I'm afraid T's gonna probably have to go somewhere to get that money because if the Bengals are serious they gotta upgrade their defense so Joe it's really that simple

yeah I hate it for T I hate it for yeah and i i hate it i hate it for t i hate it for joe i hate it for chase i hate it for the fans of cincinnati um i mean everybody loves everybody loves t hell i i love t i like him yes i love what he brings to that offense and what he's able to do uh him and chase are completely different to me i again like i see i view them as two number one receivers both of them that get the job done in a different way. Listen, it's multiple ways to skin a cat. But at the end of the day, they play the receiver position and they do it very well in two

totally different styles. Yeah, I just don't see how you can have two a $40 million receiver and a $30 million receiver and a $55 million quarterback and your defense is hemorrhaging. Damn, man. I would love to see it though. And I'm, I'm listening.

I don't, I don't know how to do the numbers. I'm not good at that. You know, that's not something that I do do. And just trying to see, is it even possible? Is it even feasible for them to do anything?

And just, you can't, you can't. Now, if this was Madden, we can make it anything. You can't. Now, if this was Madden, we can make it work. We can move some things around. We can make it work, but in real life,

no understanding and knowing what he deserves, man. Don't do my dog like that. Miles Garrett wants to be a part of the Browns, but he doesn't want to be a part of the Browns if they're in a rebuild mode. Garrett said, I'm not trying to rebuild.

I'm trying to win right now. And I want that to be apparent when the season is over and we have those discussions. I want them to be able to illuminate, illustrate that for me so that I can see something I can see in the near future, because that's all I want to do. I want to stay loyal to the team that showed loyalty to me

and faith in me by drafting me. But we have to do at the end of the day what's best for us. Garrett, a five-time Pro Bowler, a three-time All-Pro, has played in just three postseason games. Two of them came in 2020 when the Browns earned their first playoff win since 1994 and again last season in a lopsided 45-14 loss to the Houston Texans. Ocho, where are you on this? Hey, I like the ultimatum.

I like the ultimatum. Basically, that's all it is at this point. If we're in a rebuilding stage, if we don't find a resolution at the quarterback position, please do right by me so I can have a chance to compete at the playoffs and for a Lombardi trophy. Allow me to go to a team that's going to be in contention.

Where would that be? I should have my name on the back. Why I ain't getting a name on the back of my shirt? What? I need my name on it you remember when we was in school you used to have the name on the back of your jacket back in the day yeah yeah yeah back in the day yeah absolutely you get your name stitched on there

yeah I want to get my name on the back they might not they might not recognize who I am if I don't got my name on it nah they gonna know who you are I understand They might not recognize who I am if I don't got my name on it. Nah, they don't know who you are. I understand it's frustration, but let me ask you a question, Ocho. Yes, sir. How close do you think the Bengals, the Browns are to being a legitimate team that can ultimately reach the destination that Miles want them to get there?

You know what? Can I be honest with you? Yeah. The Browns have a very good defense. They have a very, very good defense. You don't win with defense. I know. You win, but you better be able to put points on the board.

They're a quarterback away, and they've been a quarterback away for what? The past 30, 40 years. They are a quarterback away. I'm not just talking about any quarterback i'm talking about a cj stroud i'm talking about a jayden daniels you know a patch well and you know patch my home coming along no time stop right there but uh joe burrow or lamar jackson or josh allen away from competing you know for for a championship or at least contending year in and year out at a playoff spot.

They're a quarterback away and have been for years. And if you look at what the Browns have been through, for however long it's been, when it's been trying to find a quarterback, it lets you know how important that position is. You can't start a franchise. You can't build a team,

you know, in any way. You can have pieces and great players. You know, you have your Miles Garris. You have your Denzel Ward. But you'll never be able to compete in the AFC North in the playoffs. Wait until you get a goddamn Lombardi trophy. Unless you have a goddamn quarterback. What happened?

What y'all laughing at? She made me a name plate. Oh. But that's, and unfortunately, the Browns might have to make a very difficult decision and trade their best player in order to rebuild and get what they need, Ocho.

And listen, if trade Myles Garrett can get to the quarterback of your future, which I'm not sure how it would be because the quarterback of your future would probably be in the draft. Well, that means what you do is that you give up draft. Somebody might have to give up two first rounders and a third rounder.

For Miles Garrett? Absolutely, yes. Because how old is Miles Garrett? 26, 27? Yeah, he's a young'un. He's a young 27? Yeah, he's a young'un. He's a young'un now. He's a young'un. But you got to keep shooting.

You got to keep shooting. Shooting for that quarterback. You got to keep shooting. Because until you get one. Somebody talking about Miles Garrett to the Ravens and Kirk Cousins to the Browns. Oh, hell no. I can tell you right now, they ain't doing that to you. Miles Garrett to the Ravens and Kirk Cousins to the Browns. Hell nah. I can tell you right now, they ain't doing that deal.

They'll never. The Ravens couldn't give up three first rounders to get Miles Garrett. That ain't happening. Hell nah. He definitely ain't going into the division. No. Forget that for the Steelers, the Raven uh the bingles oh no absolutely not huh okay don't you check this out the saints had an unusual way of preparing rookie quarterback

spencer rattler for the monday night game against the packers in wisconsin where temperatures are expected to be 30 degrees or lower and potential snow is expected at lambeau field right quarterbacks coach andy janko genoco yeah took rattler and the rest of the saints quarterback into a walk-in freezer in the team's cafeteria to run through plays. You know what? I like that. Jacko said he got the idea from watching Cool Runnings. Yeah.

I remember Cool Runnings. Cool Runnings was a good movie. Ocho. Yes, sir. Let me ask you a question. Talk to me now. How long do you think they stayed in that freezer? Not long enough to – not long enough to –

Thank you. Not long enough. Thank you. long enough to be at the game not not long thank you you need to be out there so you need to stay in that freezer for at least an hour and a half yeah and then come back out there and then when you go through those plates say you know what hey and go back in there for an hour so at least three hours yeah yeah i like the idea though i like that i do too i love the idea because inside a freezer exactly what those temperatures are going to feel like out there. Exactly what they're going to feel like, you know?

Now on the sideline, you're going to have your jacket. On the sideline, you're going to have your heated benches. You're going to have your, what do you call the thing? The warmer. Oh, yeah, yeah. The heated seat. Oh, you're going to have the heater. So you'll be fine.

But it's on that feel, on that feel of the play, 20 degrees and below, boy, it ain'll be fine. But it's on that field, on that field of play, 20 degrees and below, boy, it ain't no joke. Hey, Ojo, it used to be so cold. You ever had them games that were so cold that they had chicken broth on the sideline? Nah, you can't have no food on the sideline.

Chicken, just chicken. Man, look here. Bet I was sloshing around. I said, man, I gotta stop drinking. Bet I was watered along like a bug. Wait, y'all had chicken broth on the sideline for real? Yeah. How the hell you got it on the field? The tea broken out there was cold.

You had to be high. Well, shit, y'all might as well have some goddamn hot chocolate, too. Well, what you eating? Caramel corn. You need to be eating some candy corn. what you mean caramel corn you need to be eating some candy corn you know what we talking about candy corn and we talking about back licorice

but you know a candy that's flown under the radar that need his ass kicked those circus peanuts those orange ones you know those orange peanuts you know those you know those those orange peanuts you know what i'm talking about they real they real spongy what do they what do they call i don't know they call they call circus peanuts yeah they about this big y'all know what

i'm talking about wait you talk about regular about regular peanuts when you crack the shell? No, no, they're candy. Oh, I don't know. They call, yeah, yeah, circus peanuts. They orange look like peanuts and they soft. Now, they done been getting away with a lot of, while we beating up on candy corn,

we beating up on black licorice, circus peanuts, y'all going unscathed. But y'all some bull jive too. I just want you to know. Yeah, I don't know yeah I don't know I don't know what those are well you get out here

you google it and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about let me google it real quick go ahead google it circus peanut but they done gone they done gone

they done got they done gone unscathed for a long time oh Joe yeah there you go them look like cheese puffs oh hey honestly i ain't never seen them before they're good and terrible i ain't never seen them before circus yeah yeah i definitely i ain't never seen them but they done gone on the scale while we beating up on candy corn and black licorice now don't get me wrong candy corn

and black licorice y'all some bull jive too but circus peanuts we gonna throw y'all in there you're the top three yeah no i don't know who came out with them. And that bag, that bag looked like it's old, too. Like, that's back in the day. They're old. Oh, yeah.

See, that's why I don't know nothing about that. I don't know nothing about that. I don't know nothing about that. That got to be the 70s, 80s. Yeah, yes, sir. Thoughts and prayers go out to a major league or Hall of Famer Ricky Henderson, who passed away today at the age of 65.

Ricky obliterated the record book, owning the all-time stolen base record of 14.06, which is 468 more stolen bases than the all-time great of Lou Brock, who held the record at 9.38 for a dozen years before Henderson passed him in 1991. Henderson also holds the record for the most stolen bases in a single season of 130 in 1982, the most times leading the league in steals with 12, and the most consecutive years of leading the league in steals with seven. And at 39 years of age in 1998, Ricky Henderson became the oldest player in history to lead the American League in steals with seven and at 39 years of age in 1998 ricky henderson became the oldest player in history

to lead the american league in steals with 66 he's the greatest leadoff hitter in the history of the game yeah um nobody could get on base and impact a game like ricky henderson oh yeah um the stories that people tell about ricky uh so my thoughts and prayers go out to him, his family, and all the Lumwoods and all those that are impacted by this loss. Same. I got an opportunity to see him play. He played a lot of team. I remember him with the A's, remember him with the Yankees,

but he was a phenomenal player, tremendous speed on the base pad. But back then, that's when people actually stole bases. You had Willie McGee. You had all those guys, Tim Rock Range, base pad but back then that's when people actually stole bases uh you had willie mcgee you had uh all those guys uh tim rock range guys that could really really run on the base pads and that was a big thing uh get on base still second uh potentially still third and then a sacrifice fly gets you the home plate right um but now everybody's just swinging for the fences get the ball over but rest in in peace, Ricky, man.

You're going to be missed. Unbelievable talent. Obviously a Hall of Famer, but he is the greatest leadoff hitter, and it's not close. So y'all go ahead and debate with somebody else that actually care, because I don't, but Ricky Henderson is the greatest player. And that 1,400 steals, that ain't going to ever be broken. That's never going to be broken, because they don't even steal. They don't even run like that.

I mean, think about it, the man who... We're talking about Shohei, who had 58 steals or 60 steals. Ricky had 130 steals. That's crazy. He had wheels, but those guys back then, they could really, really run.

Yeah, LA Dela Cruz for the cards. Yeah, Della Cruz, Ellie Della Cruz from the Cards. Yeah, for the Reds. The Cards, the Reds. Yeah. The Reds. He's a big, I mean, he's huge in stealing bases like that, but he got some wheels.

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All right, Ocho, now it's time for Q&A. Q&A. Q&A. Need all that. Said, prayers to Tank Dale. Second year in a row, he got took out by a teammate after getting shot this offseason. Yeah, that's tough. That was a tough one, man.

It's always tough. To obviously injuries this late in the season, Ocho. Yeah. You got a chance for the play. You're going to the playoffs. Yeah. That makes it even worse too, huh?

When you get injured, you know, if anything, you never want anybody to get injured. But if it's going to happen, let's let it happen early in the season. So then you recovery time. Give me an opportunity to come back. Exactly.

So you're able to be ready for training camp or be ready for the start of the season, man. So I hate this for Tank, you know, two years in a row. I'm not sure what the severity of the injury is man. So I hate this for Tank, you know, two years in a row. I'm not sure what the severity of the injury is. Did you hear anything yet?

I haven't heard anything. Do we got any reports? I mean, yeah, but if you think about Ojo, the amount of time that it took to get him up and how he left the field, we know this.

We don't know where the injury is, but we know he's not coming back this year. Yeah. He's in the hospital, Ocho. That's crazy. That's not good. Tank, I just want you to know we're praying for you, bro. Wish you a speedy recovery. We're having a

real good season and unfortunately, that's happened to you so far. Just want you to know the Nightcap family here, we're definitely thinking about you and our thoughts some prayers go out to you Andrew Carr said Josh division is his butt same way y'all downplay Lamar

performance against the Giants keep that same energy and Josh playing bomb uh uh bomb competition um I'm trying to think who made the playoff last year when Lamar won the MVP who went who uh in that division competition. I'm trying to think. Who made the playoff last year when Lamar won the MVP? Who went in that division?

So did Pittsburgh make the playoff last year? Did Cleveland make the playoff last year? Did Cincinnati make the playoff last year? Angie, I'm just asking. I mean, you feel free to jump back in the chat and let me know in that division who made the playoff last year. Because I'm interested to see. I just...

You do realize that they don't, you know, they play other teams too. I mean, look. Yes, I saw and I know Baltimore beat Buffalo. But what do I do when you lose to the Raiders? What am I supposed to do with that, Ocho?

That team got two wins. Yeah. And one of them came against y'all. Yeah. I'm just looking at it objectively. Lamar had 25 touchdowns and five picks. You said it's not about stats. It's about wins.

Right. Now when your guy has the stats, you say it's about stats. It's not about wins. I'm confused. Yeah. The goalposts always move the thing on who's at the topic of the discussion. But it's a hard argument, too.

It is. We talk about two of the best. The best at the position. Well, we know it's a two-horse race, Ocho. And I believe, look, I believe Josh might have a slight lead. This is Josh, this is Lamar. He might have a slight lead.

Now, we only got a couple of links to go now. And like we started, we started at the start line. We got to let them out, you know, let them out the gate. Oh, Joe. Yeah, right there. We're down the home stretch. And as the guy would say, and down the stretch they come. So it's really that simple. Look, Lamar is going to have an unbelievable season, but if we're just going to take it on stats, so what are we going to do about Joe Burrow? Ooh. Come on, now.

If we just base it on stats, what are we going to do about Joe? Well, then in that case, then they're going to bring up the record the team the team see i told you the goal the goalposts will move depending on who it is said topic because we if we if we're basing everything off stats and numbers. Well, hell, Joe Burrow is running away with the goddamn MVP. Mm-hmm. What's the bank? What? Four and nine? Four and eight? I mean, what? No. They won five games. Five, five? No, they won five or six.

Five and... I think they got six wins. Because if they win out and the Broncos lose out, they will make the playoffs. I can tell you this right now. We're winning out. That's going to happen. We're going to win out.

And when we make the playoffs, we're going to be a team that nobody wants to see. I don't know with that defense. I think if I'm an offense, I want to see that defense because all I got to do is if I get one offense, I want to see that defense. Because all I got to do is if I get one stop, I feel very comfortable against that defense on Joe.

Especially if I get the ball into the red zone. I feel real good. Okay. I like how you feel. I like how you feel. I'm just basing it on what's happened this year. Now, I will concede this. They have played better.

Yes. Yes, they have. Now, Joe didn't play particularly well last week. The defense played outstanding. They should have had two scooped scores. Because remember the guy fumbled the ball as he's crossing the goal line. They got another pick six.

They picked them off four times. They picked up, what, two fumbles. And see, that's the scary part. That's the scary part about the game of football. You can play bad all season long, and all of a sudden you get to a playoff, and it's one game. You get hot. You get hot at the right time, and that's what the defense has done.

Maybe, I'm just saying, maybe they're getting hot at the right time. Now, mess around now. I done told you. Listen, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I don't believe in fairy tales, but if that goddamn Joe Burrow and Jamal Chase and the rest of that team happen to get their ass

into the playoffs and shock the world when they end up, I tell you, with the greatest story of all time, Joe Burrow back in New Orleans. That would be a great story. I don't think it'll happen. I know. It sounds good.

You just want to go there so you can go to the game. I don't never go to the game no matter what. Unless I have to. If the Bengals in there, you going. The Bengals played the Rams. I didn't go to that game. I went home.

Well, you already knew what was going to happen. Nah, nah, nah, nah. I think that'd be a great story, though. Great story. All right, Ocho, King Javon. Fucking Ocho says, my Bears are out of the playoff race. We going to beat the Lions tomorrow. You're not.

And hopefully ruin their chances at the bye week. I'll be back tomorrow night to say foot and ball bear down. You're not. No. Where did they play this game at? Is this the game in Chicago or is it in

Detroit? It don't matter where it's at. It don't matter where it's at. Oh, it's in Chicago. Yeah. Because the Bears played them on Thanksgiving in Detroit. So it's in Chicago. The Lions put up 40. The Lions put up 40 in back-to-back weeks.

I got them putting up maybe 35 tomorrow in the cold. Okay. No Montgomery. They down like 16, 17 guys on defense on our Ocho. How many? About 16 or 17. They struggle on that side of the ball. Yeah.

Don't DG say, oh, because, oh, what did the NFL Institute of they make it take it rule? If the team's defense scores on a pick six or scoop and score, the offense get the ball back. That ain't fair. Mess around with some of these offenses. Yes. Might not touch the ball. You might not get the ball back. That ain't fair. Mess around with some of these offenses, your ass might not touch the ball. Yeah, you might not get the ball. You might not get the ball no more. Next time you get the ball, you down 24-0. Imagine playing Mahomes.

You know, some of the elite decision makers with the ball that don't really turn it over a lot. They keep going down. Make or take it. You king of field goals and they're getting the ball right back. Boy. I don't want no part of that. No, sir.

Did you say what's up? Question for do you have a favorite child in terms of your dog? Which one behaves the best? And can we see them more? Teddy's bad. You would think.

Teddy head is the hardest. Titan is the scariest, but he listens the best, especially to me. Titus will listen, but you got to like, almost plead with him. I don't know. It's just something about small dogs. They got a personality of their own.

And he and Titus, they get into it. And Titus be trying to sleep. And then, then Teddy will go stand on his head. He'll start biting his ears okay titus try to move him away he you know he take his party move him out the way and then titus will get tired of him and then he'll like actually he'll he'll step on him that drives teddy

crazy so now teddy gotta fight oh he gotta growl he got yeah oh yeah he all in now and he mad i'm like bro if you left him alone he was asleep he wasn't bothering you but teddy teddy teddy is like i can't carry titus titus big ass titus wearing like 177 pounds so but he wanted to stand on me because he see teddy in the bed he want to get in the bed he see me carry teddy he think i can carry him. I can't carry you, bro. I cannot. But Teddy is the one that is the baddest, behaves the least

and gets the most attention. So T.S. Car Wash and Detail said, oh, what's your favorite interview this year? Mine was Chris Brown. I think CB was last year? Mine was Chris Brown. I think CB was last year. CB was 2023.

Oh my goodness. Well, obviously Cab was special. I like the Terry Crews interview. T. Crews was very forthcoming. Carlos Miller is a damn fool. My favorite

was Tyrese you like Tyrese? he's unpredictable you don't know what he's gonna say so me sitting there you know being able to actually be there while y'all was filming I didn't know what he was gonna say so I'm locked in and tuned in because he's one of the few people that will say

any and everything you know that people people think it, but they won't say it out publicly, but probably. And miss Pat. Miss Pat was good. Miss Pat was off the chain.

That was good, man. I ain't never laughed so much in my life. I mean, she is just like, she's the type of person. Don't show. Cause like I said,

I had met her like three years ago. She was on my plane sitting right next to me. Now, I didn't know this before she took off. Right. And so she was talking, you know, she's like, I love myself some Falcons. She said, my name is Pat, blah, blah, blah. But it didn't dominate. I didn't know who she was.

And so she's got a Louis Vuitton purse, but she got a Gucci backpack. So we getting off the plane. I said, next time you might want to match your accessories. She said, well, next time you might want to kiss my ass and buy it for me. Yeah. And she, and she told me just like that, but I don't know if you talking about, I ain't got money like that and so that's funny but uh you know all all of them ocho and the thing is that because i learned something i didn't expect to get what i got from kiki she's very mature very good

her age very very but she she was getting some jabs in there uh she was uh she was unbelievable miss pat to have an opportunity to sit down with meg i mean they they just they're just great man i just like the way people just like they get comfortable with me and they open up but miss pat was man miss pat was out of mind man it was great carlos miller he was unbelievable also but uh i'm looking forward uh to so we're already shooting um to have stuff for 2025 yeah so uh i'm uh i'm very excited just hopefully obviously yeah uh no johnny oh yeah we did johnny manziel johnny manziel was was this year also wasn't Yeah, we had some bangers this year, guys. I ain't going to lie.

We had some bangers this year. I was very pleased with the booking team. I think that they're very happy. What do I get? I ain't get no bonus. Why I ain't get no bonus? What y'all going to get me, Ash? You got to get Meech on there, Unc.

You got to get Meech on there to tell his story. You know, the beginning, the middle, and the end. Yeah. What's my gift? What y'all getting me? What you get the boss that got nothing? Oh, okay. I ain't going to be here. I need to get it before I go

I want to take it with me oh yeah I will I'm gonna get it in the morning or I gotta get it at night give me a hint what it is hey man they ain't wrapped them damn presents to the night before granddad would send me to the car

hey boy go get that out of the trunk of my car never mind bring your ass back in this house you finished Christmas shopping already yeah I'm done you done okay okay yeah yeah You finished Christmas shopping already? Yeah, I'm done. You're done? Okay, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm done with Christmas shopping

by the end of November. Okay, okay, okay. Hey, what you want? It's easy. Mama want money. Sister want money. My brother say he good. The kids got what they got. Grandkid got what he got.

But you see, you got to think. We got, shit, man. I got a whole platoon over here. Yeah, man. The onus ain't on me. I don't do the shopping.

I ask for your list. You know, everybody gave me their list. You know, the little babies gave me their list. Yeah. All the kids are grown. They gave me their list. And I told you little babies gave me the list yeah all the kids are grown they gave me the list and i i told you how i am with them because they don't ask for

anything during during the year they can act up they can act up christmas time and they're gonna get it and you know and you already know who got to go do all the shopping online and at the store yeah it ain't me so you know the you know i yeah, that, I ain't finna say no now. I ain't say, yeah. Yeah. Hey, put your order in. Y'all know 1-800-DOT-SHELLY. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's they, cause that's what they call. They don't, Hey, they put, they call Shelly. They tell Shelly. Well, the kids say they want this.

This one said they want this. This one say they want this. This one say they want that. Okay, fine. Your mama say she want money. Even though she get money every month that comes out of my account, it goes into her account. How much money you need, mama? And stop playing the slots.

You have a lot more money. Play the damn slots. Ocho. Woo! Uncle Ocho, I have a question for y'all. Yeah. What do you think? I don't know, Haram.

I think this might be, you might be talking about you. Ocho, he's asking a question. What do you think is worse? A husband having a baby outside of the marriage and his wife finding out or wife getting pregnant outside the marriage but the husband thinking is he is oh the latter what the hell you mean which is worse the latter hey i mean both of them oh it's almost like a ton of which is heavy a ton of bricks or a ton of feathers. Neither is a good situation.

But boy. Hey, that sounds like a lifetime movie, huh? Now, I understand it does happen in real life. Situations like that, when they have movies, movies come from real life situations. Absolutely. Always. It got to come from somewhere.

Stuff like that, though. But that's crazy yeah yeah i don't see i don't seen it on mori a few times that's a that's a that's a bold woman to do something like that i'm telling huh that's a bold boy you play look here you ain't playing with fire yeah you playing with nuclear material yeah because boy clear material. Yeah. Because, boy! Mm-mm. They, they, they, they, they, listen, they're both bad

and it's a double standard where the latter is a, is way worse. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't, I don't wish that situation on anybody. Look, ladies,

I don't want you to think that I'm trying to side because I'm a man, I'm side with the man. And men, I don't want you to think I'm trying to, you know, play the PC rock and go with the women. I don't want you to think that I'm trying to side because I'm a man. I'm side with the man. And men, I don't want you to think I'm trying to play the PC rock and go with the women. I don't wish that. But boy, that latter situation, boy, a wife, you playing with fire, both of y'all. Hold on.

Wait, are you talking about playing with fire, about getting pregnant? You playing with fire, let alone getting court-seeking with another man in general. Certain men aren't built to be able to deal with some no no no the stuff that women take from us certain men ain't able to deal with that type of that type of pain wait you gave up my to him to what he had your legs quarter to three? My stuff? And his seed growing inside of you. Now that's a whole nother story. Lord have mercy.

Hold on. He put his pickle. He put the pickle in the jar and you got the... Oh, Joe. This man done shot up the club. I mean, he just spraying the club up.

Oh, man. Matter of fact, he not... I'm going to tell you how he spraying the club up. In Harlem Nights, the goddamn shootout scene. Yeah. Put that little shit up, nigga.

That must have been what the husband was doing he would have that they were spraying weed and he got that Lord have mercy man listen man I wouldn't wish that on no have I heard of situations like that

absolutely I've absolutely heard of situations like that absolutely yeah yeah absolutely i've absolutely heard of a of a being married yeah and a woman getting pregnant outside lord have mercy yeah yeah and one thing about it as as men you know especially in the chat one thing that you you can never do you never let your ego and your pride get in the way and thinking it can't happen to you. Don't matter who you are. Don't matter how much money you got. Don't matter how good you look.

You hear me? Yeah, but don't be no fool. Don't be naive. No, no, no, no, no. It can definitely happen to you. Oh, yeah. Yeah, man. It don't matter who y'all.

It don't matter who y'all, you know? It's just like sometimes life throw you curveballs. You got to make, you got to,... You got to... Boy. Ojo. I don't know, Ojo. You better cover that thing and have that rail like a damn president. Just sit down

and slump out of the chair. Oh, man. Nobody knows the trouble I see. Nobody knows the trouble I see. Nobody knows. Man. Man, you messed up somebody's night with that one.

It's life, boy. It's life, boy. Woo. Woo. Yeah. That's tough. Yeah, man. And, Ochocho it's one thing

and and then you let him shoot up the club oh lord you let the man spray the club up oh lord

oh I'm oh man oh no oh and then I and guys and don't

don't is it good is he better than me you don't want to know that answer hey shit I'm taking notes well uh uh

baby talk to me now where am I laughing don't talk to me don't tell me that I don't want to know I don't want to know what what a

come on man that man that Alabama black snake on that woman you talk about you want to know the hell no nah man come on hell don't. Nah, man.

Come on. Nah, don't say. Nah. I'll let this. Hey, baby. Damn, how could you do this to me? Let it out. Let it.

Thank you, baby. I love you. Hey, hold on. Hold on. Hey, remember that video? You was my cinnamon apple. You was my cinnamon apple You was my cinnamon apple What happened? Where did we go wrong?

What happened to communicating? Hey What happened to communicating? You done Hey, you done Hey, Ocho, what about that movie with Samuel Jackson? Yeah Black Snake Moan

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah I'm just like, nah, oh, whoo, Lord. Lord, have mercy. Hey, that's funny. Yeah, hey, that's what I'm saying. Do not ask no questions. You don't want to know the answers to.

It doesn't matter if it was good or not. The damage, the result is the result. Shannon, were you a good student? I got a degree from Savannah State. Don't matter if I was a good student. I got a degree. It was good enough to do the job.

That's all that matters. Well, Lord, let me get off. That's, well, Lord. Let me get off of this, Ocho, man. Hey, hey, hey. Man. You hurting over there, huh? Man. Don't let it get to you.

Don't let it get to you, baby. Man, let me go. Hey. Don't let it get to you. Man, let me go over there and make sure them choppers right. Hey. Made for This Mountain

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You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being and climb your personal mountain.

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I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content. The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.

Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?

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The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see.

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Ali and Me, now on Audible. You shouted out my Aunt Mo live stream. Yes yes she's still shuffling it up in the kitchen how bad you missed that chicken and yellow rice because we get it we can get it to you ah man as a matter of fact when we sent that thing out um kim um alexander she was at the show in Dallas. Me and her husband, rest his soul, Eli. And Eli was there, and April Crockett, they remember. Oh, Joe, when I say that poor child can cook,

and she, but see the thing is, there's a difference between somebody that can cook and then somebody that loves to cook. She loved to cook. So, I'm talking about people like she cooks. Every day, Mo cooks fresh. I'm talking about chicken and rice, fried chicken, mac and cheese. I'm talking about she's cooking because a lot of times the guys were going over there.

We're going over there to eat. So she's cooking for 10, 12 people, 14 people. Yeah. Lord, have mercy. It's different. Hey, Malik, where Mo at? Tell Mo I said hello. And tell him send some chicken and rice.

And mac and cheese. And that cake. Tell him send that pound cake too. If she know how to bake, I would love a yellow cake with chocolate ice and that's something that I love. That's something. Them ladies going to get the cake for me.

They're going to get you a cake. Okay, there it is. Talk to me now. I'm right there in Miami. I'm not hard to find. If you ever come to Miami, all you got to do is ask somebody there, point you in the right direction of where I'm at. The real J-Star, okay, don't joke.

You give my bro a happy birthday shout out. He turns 36 and he's a Raven fan. Bro, you should have gave us a name. But happy birthday, bro. Ravens are back in the playoffs. That's a great birthday gift because you know that's what you guys want.

I know the only thing that'll make you guys even happier than that would be for the Ravens to get to and win the Super Bowl because I know what it was like when we won the first one. I can imagine what it was like when they run the second one because that was Ray's last game. And they've been yearning for that ever since, what was that, 2012? Yeah. 2012, they won.

They beat the 49ers. So congratulations, bro. Happy birthday. Congratulations on the Ravens making the playoffs. 2012, they won. They beat the 49ers. Congratulations, bro. Happy birthday. Congratulations on the Ravens for making the playoffs. Big things ahead, I hope, for you guys. Bloud91 said, Unc, put that hood on again and do the

gangster. My stomach hurts. You know what I'm saying? I need that thing. I got that stick upstairs. I should run upstairs to get that stick. But you know, YouTube will take our page. We on our best behavior right now. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.

We got nine more days. And we can play our videos again? Yep. Nine more days and we'll be gone drinking beer and pissing phone. Ready. We don't drink no beer nobody drink no beer here oh man nine days man that was the longest

90 days Ash but that's alright we lost we at Ocho look we lost a couple of dollars yeah guess what we'll be back them couple dollars we gonna make that back up ain't no Look, we lost a couple of dollars. Guess what? We'll be back. Them couple of dollars? We're going to make that back up. Ocho, I can't show nothing but this right here.

That's all I got. I can't show nothing but that right there. What is that? Side holster. Pew, pew, pew, pew. That's all I got. Hey. That's all I got. that's all I got, but, no, but guys, we appreciate that, I'm sorry that, you know, because before we could show video, we could show videos, and it would better give

you an illustration of what Ocho and I are going to be discussing, and what we're talking about, but we just don't want to take, we just can't take the chance, guys, I'm sorry, and I know you guys understand, but we just can't, we just can't take the chance guys. I'm sorry. And I know you guys understand, but we just can't, we just can't take the chance right now. We're so close. We're so close from, um, um,

being off of probation, man, it's going to be a beautiful thing. Yeah. Beautiful thing. Yeah. You know, I got that plug.

What y'all need? You know, I keep that. I got that thing for y'all. Hey man i keep that i got that thing for y'all hey man speaking of plugs man i don't i don't man listen i'm what happened what happened i don't i don't know how they do it where you from but what happened to the boosters man spent during the holidays the boosters ain't the same no more man no no because we used to be able to go to the barbershop and we got everything. You get cologne, you get phones, you get TV. I don't know what happened to the boosters, man. God, Lee,

if you're in Miami, I mean, I'd be in Miami tomorrow. I land tomorrow, y'all holla at your boy. I'd be a grandma in the city in the 40s now. Y'all holla at your boy. Damn. it ain't like that no more joe it ain't it you right i don't know i don't know what they've been doing man i mean but now i got a homeboy he always get ish i don't need

a a shop i got a pressure washer what the f i need a pressure washer for do i look like he ain't got a pressure washer or weed eater. I don't own no construction company. I need a weed eater, fuck. Bro, you need to get me something I need. No, bro, no. I don't need no weed eater.

But I thank you. Man, uh, uh, uh, dude. Haram. Olajuwon. Man, look here, man. Don't you come back with no question, no more question like that. Talk about which is worse. You done went back to that

again? Yeah, baby. Hey, man. Hey. Oh, so I ain't got no wife? Right. I ain't got no wife, i got a wife so i gotta worry about that right right but you know hey my name was you know 25 you know what that was hit him no you never know yeah what's in store for 25 yes sir because you know what they say what a time to be alive yeah in 25 oh hey yeah you know you O'Shea might have to unclog the pipe and see if it's still working it's working you never know

don't forget February right around the corner February right around the corner now huh? February right around the corner nah it ain't gonna take nah this is the thing if I get this thing right it's the January, February, March, April, May June, July, August, September yeah my old September baby okay. OK, there it is. There it is.

There it is. But I'm just saying, yeah, yeah, yeah. Might well. I'm going to tell you, I might not have one, but it won't be for like a try. I'm just going to let you know what it won't be for like a try. Because I'm going all out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let me stop. Listen. Hey listen hey listen it's all about manifestation go ahead and manifest that thing now nah nah nah i don't want to manifest that yeah it's too late you're gonna say it tonight you're gonna say it tonight and listen the one thing about it what god told you man your grandma told you back in the day, the tongue is powerful.

Be careful with your tongue. Yeah, the power of the tongue. Yeah, it is. I know, it's the power of the tongue. Yeah, it is, yeah. Sometimes you ain't got to talk. Sometimes it'll talk for you. You know what I'm talking about, don't you?

Yeah, you ain't got to tell me. I wish it were you right now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but... Yeah. Yeah. I should have got it started early. I want a June baby. I want a cancer baby born on a daddy birthday. Yeah. Nah, I'm talking about about to have some kids.

Nah, about to have no kids. What happened? What happened? Something happened. It went away. You see that? Yours went away too? The reasons.

The reasons that we're here. The reasons that we're here. Oh, okay. Everything's still good. Okay, that was a chat. Okay, we good. Okay, we good. I ain't press nothing. I ain't

do nothing. I ain't touch nothing. No, I don't do nothing I ain't touch nothing no I don't know no no no no I only mess with the iPad I only mess with that computer thing yeah hey I'm thinking about we got Christmas coming up man my birthday

right around the corner on the 9th, boy. You think I'm going to still get my Christmas gift? From who? Shit. I was supposed to be getting a cyber truck from Santa. I'm trying to see if I'm...

Man, you don't even know Cybertruck. Man, look here, take that money and invest it. It ain't me. What you talking about? Someone was buying me a Cybertruck.

What you talking about? Tell her to take that, tell her to take that money and invest it for you. I mean, look, that's your money. That's her money.

You can do what you want to do with it, but. Right, right. I just want to, I'm just listening. I'm just, I'm throwing it out there.

Cause you know, I ain't, I ain't talked to whoever, you know, I just want to know is you still keeping your promise, you know, even though things ain't what they, what they were supposed to be,

you know, are you still going to give me what you said? You was going to give me, I, I'm, I need to, are you going to get her? What you said?

You're going to get her. Who? Whatever you said that you was going to get. Shit. I don't know. I just want my truck. Don't tell me you're going to do something that don't do it. I don't care what happened.

Shit. I want my truck. I'm going to do something and don't do it. I don't care what happened. Shit. I want my truck. I'm going to lie. And on the 25th, if I ain't got my goddamn truck, man. Oh, Joe. Yeah. You like those things? I like anything different. You talk about me, anything different. Listen,

I changed my name, my last name to a number that ain't even spelled correctly. Yes, I like that ugly ass truck. It fits me. It's ugly. I'm ugly. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.

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all of our social bios. Ohio State defeated Tennessee 42-17. The Chiefs Mahomes looked just fine as they win 27-19 to move to 14-1. One win away from securing

home field throughout the AFC playoffs. The Ravens defeated the Steelers. Got a big day from LeVar Jackson and Derrick Henry by the score of 34 to 17. Russell threw a pick six and he fumbled going in as the Ravens take those two turnovers and turn the Steelers away. Texas, number five, Texas defeated the Clemson Tigers, 38-24. Penn State, the number six Penn State Nittany Lions, defeated the number 11 SMU Mustangs by the score of 38-10.

Notre Dame defeated Indiana, that was yesterday's score 27-17. And Travis Hunter is leaning toward entering the draft as a cornerback, working out as a cornerback, but he's told teams he would like to play on both sides of the football. And what the indications are, they, he'd be a full-time corner, and they would have packages that would allow him to play on the offensive side of the football. The Falcons are expected to Kirk Cousins before the $10 million roster bonus.

But, whoo, $100 million guaranteed. He made $62 million this year. He's entitled to another $38 million in 2025. That concludes Nightcap. I'm Unk. He's Ocho. We will see you tomorrow night after Sunday Night Football. Again, thank you guys for joining us and happy early holidays.

The volume. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.

Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.