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Isaiah Thomas floated a wild hypothetical about what would have happened if Kevin Durant, not Jordan,
had been steering the ships for those iconic 1990s Chicago Bulls teams.
I said Kevin Durant, if you would have played back in our era, you would have put it in your triple post in mid-post area,
and they would have took Michael Jordan out, you would have played Pippet, you would have played with Cookew.
he would have had six championships.
Absolutely.
With all them around him, he gets the post up in the mid-ray.
Yeah, I think he could do the same thing.
Oh, no.
He's saying if Jordan wasn't on the team and it was KD.
He said if you replace Jordan with KD, they still win six championships.
Hey, I have a question, Joe, before you even answer Joe,
can somebody please explain to me what's the issue with Isaiah Thomas and why he's always jabbing at Jordan?
And Jordan never respond, but every few months.
He always comes back at Jordan with something general.
I think Isaiah Thomas probably one of the only cats
who got a winning record against Michael Jordan.
Okay, oh, Joe.
It goes back to the dream team.
Yeah, it goes, well, yeah, him not being on.
It's the dream team.
Isaiah Thomas should have been on the dream team.
No matter what you think, and it was a great team assemble.
John Stockton was not better than Isaiah Thomas.
Isaiah Thomas was a two-time champion
at the time of the selection,
Isaiah Thomas was a two-time champion
and a finals MVP.
And, and guess what?
He beat Magic in Magic's era.
He beat Bird and Bird Era.
They ended.
He ended the Big Three Celtics.
The Pistons did.
Nobody else did.
He beat Magic and Kareem and Worthy.
He did.
He beat Dennis Johnson,
Larry Bird,
Kevin McKinian.
Robert Parrish, Isaiah and the Pistons did that.
He did, he, he had earned the right to be on the 92 dream team.
But, but when he walked out to court after Jordan them finally beat them in 91,
and he didn't shake George's hand.
Now mind you, if you go back and look, go back and look, you know where he,
Isaiah and them got there from?
Balson.
What?
The Celtics walked out of the court and didn't shake the pistol.
his hand. Go back and look it up and nobody said a mofo word.
Right. Go back and look it up. I'm old enough to remember.
Hey, how many years has it been?
Oh, 92 dream team. So you look at about 34 years.
34 years. Hey Joe, Matt, I'm, I think maybe I'm tripping on. I don't know.
At some point, do we not get over that?
No, not what it's real? Because I said I missed that two times. I was supposed to be on the 80 team.
But guess what?
They boycotted Soviet because the Soviets invaded Afghanistan.
So in 1980, America didn't send anybody to Moscow.
So 94, 84, Jordan was already in the league so he couldn't play.
You got to realize Jordan got drafted and still got played because he hadn't played a professional game yet.
So Jordan played in the 84 Olympics after already being drafted.
So now he said this is my one last final chance.
To get this, I'm an NCAA champion, I'm an NBA champion, I'm a finals MVP,
I'm going to be a Hall of Fame.
I had Azeo on the show.
I like Azeo.
I don't know if anybody that knows him, but if you be around him, he is so engaging,
he is, I mean, he loves sports.
He'll talk any sport with you.
Football, basketball, obviously he played at every high level.
He's a top 75, he was a top 50 player.
Real brother, too.
He looks at it like, this man kept me all.
off the dream team.
Stark was not better than Izaa.
I don't care what y'all say.
I get it.
He played 100 years.
He's the all-time assist leader.
He's the all-time steals leader.
He wasn't better than I-Zer.
I agree with you on that.
But I still don't think that Jordan went to the USA Commission or whatever.
It was like, man, look, the only way I play is if Isail Thomas is not playing.
I don't think he did that.
I think due to the Pistons not shaking the Bulls' hand, obviously,
they came right after that, right?
That was their summer right, right after that, right?
Yes.
I think everybody who was over, like, USA,
I think they kind of seen and kind of just put it together.
I think when they came to get Joins' well wishes
to be able to play on the USA team,
I think they may have brought it to him
before he ever even said some about it.
Well, there are reports out there.
I don't know if it's true, but I think Sam Smith
wrote it in his book.
That's what we reported.
said he would play, but you know who couldn't.
So I don't know if that's true.
I wasn't there.
I just, what is, what is true, what isn't true?
Isaiah believed that to be true.
And you know sometime perception is reality, guys.
It might not be true, but your perception, that's your reality.
You know what makes it even worse is the fact that you won't respond.
Rejordan doesn't say anything.
He doesn't talk about the.
issues and I mean so that that makes it even worse and at least everybody pondering on what really
did happen or what really I mean it's crazy that Jordan has said nothing I think at some point
I'm not sure when he's gonna sit down no no no no ain't not no he may not run them nascar cars
he ain't saying y'all talking about some of um even if he didn't have nothing going on that ain't
who Jordan is talking he ain't never going to never talk about that you know how Jordan deals
yeah he just never speak to you again that's it
No. That's it.
He ain't going, he ain't going to go back and forth and get into the media.
Bro, do you know how much NBC probably had to pay that man just to get to sit down and do those two, three interviews that he did with my people.
Lydion's estimated $40 million for three interviews, Ocho.
Dang.
That's what it's estimated.
I don't know, but that's what people threw out there.
But I tell you what, it wasn't cheap.
No, of course.
He don't, he don't care to talk.
Yeah.
he talked at an obligation.
If you go back and look at it,
when he normally talked,
he talked to Ahmad.
Yeah, that was his guy.
Yeah.
So when NBC had the rights,
he normally sat down and talk to Amar.
Yeah, he would go to the podium.
You know, he understood that.
But he didn't do a whole lot of stuff.
I think maybe one or two times he might have talked to Peter Vessie.
I'm not really sure because it's a while,
but I know normally when they did an interview,
it was Armad sitting down with Jordan,
especially, especially when it came to maybe All-Star
and NBA finals.
Yeah.
Amma was his boy.
Yes.
Yes.
Well, hell, that means
Joel was probably one of the first players
who had that kind of power
the way the players have power today.
Yeah, they got to have power.
Probably the only one had that kind of power
while he was in the media, but he didn't have it on his own team.
Because Jared Krauss controlled everything.
Well, you just said the reason that Isaiah wasn't able to play
because Jordan probably didn't want a team.
They knew they needed to.
one guy.
Yeah, it was great because you wanted to, you needed that one guy.
Right.
Yeah.
You needed the logo.
Yes, sir.
That's what you used.
Yeah, it would be great.
You could have had all those other guys.
Right.
But you needed that one big joker.
Yeah.
It was it.
Yes, sir.
The star of the league, bro.
Because you got to understand, coming off his second NBA championship.
Yeah.
He's already, what, I think a two-tive, three-time MVP?
Yeah.
defensive player of the year,
he was the biggest thing,
he was the biggest thing going.
And if you want to,
if you want to go globally,
you got to get the biggest starting with you.
You got to be, okay.
Well, I know,
a 34 years later though,
unk,
God.
I ain't going to let it go.
If you know,
Isaiah ain't letting it go.
Right.
He's not.
Jordan's not going to respond.
I bet I say,
I say,
Zik, let me go, Zik.
I'm like,
mm-mm.
You say no, huh?
Because, and the thing is, I could see if there was something that could be done.
Nothing can be.
If we can re-ran in the hands of time, guys, and we go back and put out,
but it ain't nothing can be done.
Nope.
There's nothing.
Mm.
I mean, I mean, imagine if, I mean, I don't know what the crowning achievement would have been like,
but just to know that you deserve, you, you've earned the right.
to be there. Right. So what does he want?
Apology? That's what he said.
I say, I say, Isaiah.
I say Z. ain't going to get.
No, that ain't coming.
Hey, Joe, ain't no scenario you can see.
But what Jordan are coming out in the public?
No.
No.
No. Absolutely not.
Hell, I mean, you saw even Pimp
is kind of taking some shots at Jordan.
Man, look here.
Jordan in his own little.
Jordan has gone to Pippin either.
No, I don't think he's going to...
Well, I didn't know, I didn't know they, I thought they were close.
Right.
But for what I've been, what I've deduced and what I've heard is that they weren't really never close.
Yeah, from listening to Pippin, yeah, he would make you think that.
But, man, I just, I don't know.
I mean, Jordan was always giving him credit.
Like, I could not have done what I did without him.
You know, he's always giving him.
Man, hey, listen, Uncle Ocho, if y'all notice, it ain't really too many guys that MJ played with on their Bulls team that really give him props, bro.
They really talk highly of him.
Like, they all kind of take little jabs at him, you know, saying they, saying that he was a tough guy to play with.
He was a tough team, and he probably was all of that.
But the man, he had the fire and desire, bro, to come out and compete night in and night out and put forth his best foot.
Like, he commanded that guys do the same.
That's the thing.
Like, I think a lot of these, well, not a lot.
I think, you know, some of these dudes who are great,
they try to get others to match what they're doing,
Arcan Ocho, and other guys just can't reach that potential.
That's why it's hard for great players to be great coaches.
Because what you're thinking in your head,
you're trying to convey it to another guy,
hopefully he can see it the way you see it.
And it just happened like that.
They don't see it that way.
No, that's why most of your great coaches are average players.
Look at Coach Belichette.
Look at the really great coaches.
Right.
Steve Kerr got for,
Steve was not a,
I mean, he was a role player.
Did it job well.
Look at Phil Jackson.
Yeah.
When you try to get,
I mean,
I think if,
you see Bill Russell,
he won,
he was a players coach.
Casey Jones.
Um,
going to Tom Heinzen.
Tom Heinson.
Yeah.
great player. People don't realize how great
Tom Hinesson was, Coach Millewalkie.
Lenny Wilkins.
But for the most part, I mean,
especially to modern, not modern
players. Because back then,
guys, guys listen.
They make too much money nowadays.
Hell, they ain't.
These guys, they listen. They're talking back in their
time. Yeah.
What?
That's why I think.
But I've said this on,
But I've had a conversation with, like I said,
I had him on the pod many, many years ago,
and I've been places where he was
and had a conversation.
He ain't letting it go.
I'm just saying, so if you expect him to let it go,
he's not going to let it go,
and Jordan ain't going to respond.
He just talking to itself at this point.
He is.
He is.
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It's 50% of the game,
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The MVP race.
I believe I'm the most impactful player defensively in the league.
You are.
Second argument would be that we almost swept Casey this season
and we dominated them three times with their real team.
The third argument would be that offense impact is just not points.
Joe, do you agree with what Wembe has said and
and his reason for he, why he should be named?
He has some points.
He has some points.
Okay, Ocho.
I agree with him with the.
defense as, you know, 50% of the game.
And obviously, nobody can match what he does defensively.
I think the next step for him is to continue to evolve offensively.
I don't know what he's averaging right now, Ocho, but it's probably what about 22, 23 game.
I think he'll end up getting that up.
And obviously, if San Antonio can continue to be dominant, I don't.
I don't know if they could take over the number one spot from OKC over the next couple years,
but, you know, they're trending in the right direction.
I think he will eventually become MVP.
He's averaging 24, 11, and 3.
24 points, 11 rebounds 3.
The only thing is hard about the MVP because, damn, you just can't discredit what Yolkish numbers is, bro.
You can't discredit what...
Did you see Yolkish last night?
Man, come on, did I see it?
23, 21, and 19.
Like, I...
19.
19.
19.
He had 19 assists.
21 rebounds, 23 points.
Hey,
a joke,
he'd be out there.
Hey,
you'd think you playing
goddamn 2K,
man,
with the numbers he's putting up.
Oh, yeah.
And San Antonio's
two games back
from the one seed.
Oh,
they two games back?
I think he got,
he got a great argument,
Ocho,
but he ain't going to win it this year.
He ain't going to win MVP this year.
I thought we all.
I think about it.
I think SGA was going to win, though.
I think SGA is going to win.
I think so, too, but I think the player that probably that has earned it the most based on value is Jalen Brown.
Yeah.
Oh, is that simple?
Who had Boston Celtics as the number two seed without Jason Tatum, trading prosengers, getting rid of a trading holiday, Al Horford leaving?
Who had them in this spot?
Nobody.
Nobody.
You're right, huh?
You're right.
Jalen Brown has a definitely compelling argument.
He's averaging 20, I think 28, 6 and 5.
He's played out of his damn mind.
I just, I just, I know they're going to give it to Shay.
Considering that they're the number one team in the NBA still,
they have the best record.
And what if they don't have the best record?
What if San Antonio overtakes them?
With what?
What we got?
About eight, by nine games left.
I think we got 10 to 12.
I just don't see them lose.
I don't see them dropping two in a row or two games.
I can't see San Antonio catching now.
Because they don't play them no more.
No, they beat them three out of four.
So I don't see y'all.
I don't see.
I mean, he ain't the leading score in the NBA,
but he's probably second.
How many games they got left?
11
what they got
9 9
oh 9
yep
oh yeah
it's gonna be very very interesting
back to back
I mean I hate that that
that Cade got hurt
and he's going to miss that 65 game cutoff
hold on I thought I thought he could miss like
like five or six games
he got to hear you got to come back
but do you rush him back
and probably and potentially
set him back
yeah you got put some padding on that
on their rib cage or something.
We're trying to get, hey, hey, we
we're trying to sign, hey, next country,
we try to sign for the 340, man.
He just signed, he just signed
294. He's too 90. He's good.
Yeah, he good. Now, see, that's,
you got to look at it from a standpoint.
You got your appetizer.
Then you got your entree.
Then you won't come back for a little dessert.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah.
Oh, he'll be back.
I mean, he can't be the more than 24.
Huh? You trying to hit him across the head twice?
And many times you can.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
Boy getting to that money, boy.
What did you talk about?
That man going to sign another contract for $300.
He just signed for $2.90 or something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But Nix just lost their seven-game winning streak
and Mitchell Robinson is not happy.
Following the disappointing performance,
Robinson took the Instagram to voice his frustration saying,
Don't even matter unless we change our approach.
We ain't doing it special.
Keep that bull jive up, myself included.
Hey, look.
Joe, what's he saying?
Mitchell Robinson, he may be feeling the way he played 26 minutes, 4.6 rebound.
But man, get Charlotte credit.
Ocho.
Them boys.
No, Charlotte been balling, man.
They didn't shoot the lights at the ball.
Let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something.
Charlotte is a scary team right now.
They are playing great.
watched a lot of this game tonight.
I love C Cinepple.
The way he plays, he had 26 and 11
the night. You got Brandon
Miller who had 21. You got LaMello
who had 22.
And
Miles Bridgette, 17.
I like how
they play. They got great
chemistry, Uncun Ocho. I'm talking
about they play together. They play
the right way. And they got guys who
are just flat out bawling, bro.
Like, they can beat anybody right
now in the East.
They can beat anybody.
They shoot the three ball.
They made 20.
Didn't they make 26 threes the other night?
They damn near make 15 to 20 a night.
You're talking about they shoot the three ball.
I'm talking about they shooting the level off of that thing.
You hear me?
Yes.
I'm talking about, I'm talking about, man.
Hey, look, I was so impressed watching the night just the threes that C Cignappel
were taking.
He was six for 10 from the three, but he was taking some deep threes,
Uncle Ocho.
And Lamello out there just playing quarterback, just fine the guys.
Man, that joke, I ain't never seen nobody shoot that many one-legs, step-back threes.
He got the most unorthodox game in the NBA.
I'm talking about it's unorthodox.
I'm not watching play.
I'm like, how is this stuff even going in?
But they look good, bro.
They look like they postseason ready.
They ready to get somebody some trouble.
I think they will.
I think they're going to get, what do they, they look like they're going to probably be in the playing.
You think so?
Yeah, yeah, they're going to probably be in the playing.
They might surprise somebody too now.
I guess with Mitchell Robinson.
Okay, Ocho, I think it's the defensive end that he's talking about.
You know, they're giving up a lot of points.
And, you know, if you want to compete in this league, especially in the NBA,
man, you got to be able to guard.
But I'm going to tell you y'all something.
Charlotte, they're not playing, bro.
They're hard to guard.
They got a lot of guys who can go off the bounce, create plays, score that ball.
I'm telling my man, they're a fun team to watch now.
You know, they used to be a doormat.
You know, you go on the Charlotte, Ocho.
You're like, oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you take that off as a win.
We can go hang out tonight.
We got Charlotte tomorrow.
We're going to be good.
We're going to run these boys in the ground.
Man, please.
Nah.
You better have your tracks shoes on.
Hey, and you look at the guys they got,
they got four guys that can shoot the three ball.
And then they got Kobe White.
They picked up from Chicago coming up.
I'm talking about in Ocho.
I'm talking about he ain't nothing to be playing with.
No, man.
Oh, I saw him get a 40 ball to the Lakers last year.
That was probably the biggest pickup that they had Jacoby White.
Kobe White.
Like he, I don't know if it's because he's back in North Carolina because, you know, he played it.
He played at UNC.
But, boy, look, he showed comfortable in that hornet's uniform.
I tell you that.
Yep.
Joe, who you got for rookie of the year?
Cooper Flagg.
I like Knapple, bro.
I think Flagg, his points.
I think Cooper Flag got, I think his points are better because, you know, they,
force feed him. Okay, Ocho, but C C Cineple, if you watch him play, nothing's force.
Everything looks like it comes to him easy. He takes shots within the offense.
Like, he just out there hooping, bro. I like Cinepple, man. I like, I ain't going to like see.
I do, too. Hell, he looks like he might have 300 threes this year. How many threes he's
made? Because he's already got the rookie record. Man, I don't know how many he had made,
but I'm talking about he looked good, boy. I'm talking about.
Joe he got to be like
260, 270.
Easy.
Man had 26 points.
So he had 256?
2502.
I'm talking about it's quick, too.
He gets that thing off quick.
Who you got for rookie to eat?
You're going.
I think they won't flag.
No, they won't flag.
But why not Duke?
Hey, but listen to this,
OK, Ocho, why not Duke?
Would you give him cold like you did,
Grand Hill and Jay.
They're two ex-teammates from Duke.
You know, just do co.
Do co-ro rookie of the year
because Knapp would,
he definitely worthy of it.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
And he got a better,
and they got a better record than the game.
Yeah, they're going to be in the play here.
They can possibly make the playoff.
Yeah, they're already in the play.
Yeah, I agree.
They got nine games to go, Joe.
And where they are now?
And he has 253.
They have nine games left,
and he has two.
he has 253 made threes.
And where they are, they in like the 10 spot, huh?
Nine spot.
Then eighth, then.
They're time for eight.
Yeah, man.
Do, do co-ro rookie at a year.
You know, I'm sure them dudes are good friends.
They enjoy it.
They enjoy it.
Joe, they two games back are from the fifth seed.
So they can make the playoffs.
Forget play in.
They can be in the playoff.
They playing good, bro.
They play in great.
I'm talking about they're fun to watch now.
Like usually, I don't even tune in to watch the Hornets, but he-
Man, what Mitchell Robinson doing?
What he do, man?
This man got a toenail in his hand.
Talking about I'm gonna keep it.
I'm gonna keep it.
Tell me anybody want to sign a toenail.
Y'all have had a toenail come out?
Yeah.
Yeah.
the big toe from stopping the start.
Hey, if you play in any sports, boy,
you can have a toenail come on.
Oh, yeah.
And all the people don't step on you
with them seven studs?
It cold, man, I showed the issue out of something.
God dang!
Hey, it hurt different.
These my feet, they made for,
I made the walk on them, not you.
I don't think that had passed the pain,
boy, people would not understand.
Having somebody step on your foot
with seven toes, huh?
The seven studs you mean, not seven toes.
Are you at home and you get up and your pinky toe hit the corner of the wall?
Kick that bed.
But you all.
Man, you get mad, get it.
I get mad, wake up.
How you put the bed?
How you put the bed right here?
Hey, that's it.
Hey, it'll bring tears in your eyes, boy.
Hey, man, that joke.
I'm going to move on past this door here.
Hey, Joe, Ocho, check this out.
A concerned boyfriend has been tweeting and searching for his girlfriend since she left in Houston.
Oh, man.
She's in Houston.
Oh, yeah.
Check this out.
He tweeted, uh, my girl's still in Houston.
Bro, my girl's still in Houston.
All the flights out of Houston delayed.
It's not fun anymore.
This B still in Houston.
Hey.
Might as well chalk that went up, baby.
Yeah.
So by the guy.
Hey, chalk that went up.
It's about my, hey, my girl.
The word my, it sounds like ownership.
Hey, hey, and she ain't answering the phone either or a text message.
Well, you got to come to social media to look for her.
You know what going on.
What's going on, Ocho?
I don't know.
I know one thing.
I don't chase after no adage expense.
What's going on?
She's answering a phone, text message.
Hey, tell, hey, you're,
don't tell about I ain't see you called.
For five days?
Man,
they know that they'll shoot a quick night.
Man, you know my phone, my phone died.
Hey, let me say y'all so.
For five days, oh, hold on, they got a new one now too now.
What is they?
It was on, it was on do not disturb.
Yeah, or airplane mode.
Hey, hey, hey.
So let me ask your question.
So how the kids get in touch with you?
So you ain't talking to your kids in five days?
Oh, man.
Hey, I'm talking.
Hey, my old buddy, man, go on chunk of the deuses, bro.
Now, look, she's going to come back.
Now, if you take her back, that's going to be all on you.
You hear me?
Yeah, that's on you.
Man.
Look at that thing wide open over there.
Broiler, when she get back, that thing will be like a skateboarding the airplane hanger.
I just said, oh, Joe, I just said, man, she been going that long.
I'm just, hey, hey, boy, listen.
But I know, I tell you one thing, I ain't going on social media to look for anything.
You hear me?
No.
Hey, guys, check this out, man.
Titus got out.
Well, Titus ain't going to get out.
I got to keep eye on here because Tynda go if somebody else.
But, but Teddy Bear and Thanos, yeah.
Hey, guys.
Uh, hey, man, can somebody
find my dog, man, I play a night reward.
I ain't getting on no damn
social media to talk about my gert, man, please.
Damn.
Hey, my uncle Joe, the game is the game, man.
Hello.
The game has always been the same
and the game has never been felt.
Hello.
But the better you learn to play it,
the better off you're going to be.
Man.
Boy, I can just,
boy, look at it, man.
Hey, oh, if it rang it,
okay, there's a chance.
But with that thing,
The person that you call does not have voice message.
Hey, hold on.
Hey, what if you text and instead of being blue is green?
Yeah, I'll be, yeah.
She's got to do that disturb on everything.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's that hurt, boy.
And then everything started playing in your mind on what she could be doing.
Yeah, because you can see an answer in.
You remember when.
You got, hey, you got chalk it up to the game, bro.
Hey, hey, quick.
You remember when?
Yeah.
I was there and them nights, that phone kept ringing.
Hello.
Huh?
We are, hey, man, you're on the Ocho.
I'd have been sighted the hall many times, hey, talk.
Yeah.
So he could stop calling so I could do what I need to do.
I can't concentrate.
He's blowing, you know, I can't, hey.
Hey, concentrate, huh?
If you stop calling, I can do what I need to do.
That's a cold game, boy.
Hey, Joe, it's been a cold game.
It's been a cold game, especially when you've been, when you've been to two,
Stan, you know, when you're the two for a very long time,
you're very hesitant to want to be one when you understand how cold games.
Yeah, bad.
It's a cold game.
You don't want the attachment, man.
You just, you know, you ever want to have a little fun, you know,
stick and move, stick it move, you know.
That's it.
Hey, no response.
Hey, Uncle Joe, no response.
You mean I ain't got to deal with no head?
Hello.
Yeah.
I ain't got to deal with the nagging.
Man.
Nah, I don't, listen, this, back,
once upon a time, once upon a time, guy, you gotta talk about that a lot.
Me, I'm talking about situations when I was in my 20s.
Now when I was 20, I threw caution to the win.
I ain't mess with nobody that was married.
If you told me you was married, I'm good.
You good?
You good?
I don't want them.
Be neither, man.
I know, I know how married, I know how, if I was married and, and, and, and,
and somebody came up in the house,
I deemed that disrespectful.
So if I came up in there, all best off.
But they're fine on you.
Yeah.
So I, so I ain't gonna mess, nobody married.
Now, just be upfront.
You see it?
Let me make a decision.
Let me make a decision.
Let me say, okay, I wanna deal with this situation
or I don't.
But don't get me and then all of a sudden,
you could.
You hear that knock at the door?
No, I go to the bathroom.
I go to the bathroom, you know,
I peep around the corner, and you are on the phone.
Yeah.
You ain't talking to your kids because you talk to your kids in front of me.
What you do?
You out with your girls and then you see me coming by.
Oh, no.
Okay.
I already know what time it is.
Okay.
What?
You just be just, just keep it up.
You need nothing.
I ain't gonna say, you know, I might be, you know,
because I don't want somebody, somebody coming up to me.
You know, I'd be like, nah, man, you know, I wouldn't do no mess.
like that bro.
Are we just, we just free years?
How long you been knowing them?
Man, I ain't probably like seven inches ago.
Oh my bad, my bad, me seven years.
Seven years, come on, fellow, come on, come on, come on.
Come on, come on, come.
Come on, Joe.
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, seven years, seven years, bro.
Hey, man, but I'm going to hell.
I'm going to hell.
Joe, Joe.
I'm going there, I'm sorry.
I meant seven years ago.
Hey, we can laugh now because we've been able to experience it.
There's some is not going to be funny.
But when you live long enough, you get it.
Yes.
You get it.
Everybody, everybody doesn't got God.
I don't care who you are.
Yeah.
Oh, you.
You might see the sad thing is that the player is talking about he ain't never been got.
He's the one that's being gotten to lose.
Because he's not even enough to believe that he happened.
He just don't know it.
Sometime you to get him,
sometime you're the one who get gotten.
Happens.
Every time.
No matter who.
Hey, sometimes you catch the touchdown
on top of the guy's head.
Sometimes he gets an interstate.
Hey, the game is the game.
Man, I was just joking, y'all.
Now, see, bad y'all.
Hey, bad, y'all.
Hey, Jay.
It's out.
Sweden had made headlines
with an official declaration,
sex as a sport,
with plans already underway for a tournament.
The surprising move has sparked debates
about the boundaries of what qualifies as a sport
in how it challenges traditional views
on both sexuality and athleticism.
I like that.
A sport?
Yeah.
I like that.
Damn.
I like that a lot because there's so many different ways it can happen.
There's so many different ways it can be done.
You hear me?
It can be a sport because it's a skill set.
When it comes to a sport, there are different sets in that skill, you know,
the different skill sets in a sport that specifies who makes what.
So why does Jason Tatum, you know, get a $300 million deal?
Why does the six man come off the bench?
Not get as much.
Okay.
Skill set, what they can do.
No, the same thing happens in the sport that they talk about.
Now, I can be-
That's going to be very interesting, though, Ocho.
Yeah, I love it too.
This is right up my alley, huh?
This is right up my alley.
What you mean right up your alley?
You're partaking this?
No, I wouldn't partake.
I won't partake.
I'm just saying it with great understanding.
In that area, that's my area.
Your 20, I would.
In your 20s, you would?
Oh.
No, yeah.
No, no, no.
24 second clock go off, I'm gone.
I don't, hey, I tell you what,
I bet that 24 second clock couldn't catch me.
As a sport, bro, like that's gonna do.
I like that, I like that.
Hey, these countries, man, they go, I be,
there, and this is what they're saying.
What the way we used to look at sex
and what we think, it was taboo.
You couldn't talk about sex.
No
I couldn't talk about
You couldn't talk about that
And the clothes
I mean that was
I mean back then when I was a kid
You know Daisy Duke
You know
You had the Duke's a hazard
And when Daisy Duke came out
Yeah
Yeah
Boy that was a big old thing man
Do you know how bad
Oh man
Well you couldn't
I mean that was that was it
And maybe a halt to talk
That was it
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Yeah.
But, but, but, but, but them, them string bikinis and, in the face, catacomarch,
on it in their booth? No, sorry.
No, sorry.
All that was frowned upon back then.
Oh, my God. What? It was, because you
never, because you didn't see it.
You didn't see it as much.
Nowadays, man, you go to a swimming pool or beach.
Boy, they're going to have a G-stream. Go to the club.
Hey, Joe, you can see everything that you saw.
Everything that you saw in Victoria's Secrets or Fredericks of Hollywood,
you go to a club. You can see that.
No question.
Hey, Joe, you know, the funny thing about it,
depending on where you live, like in Miami,
you ain't got to be in the club.
No something.
You ain't got to.
Walking down the street, huh?
Oh, yeah.
In Miami, yeah, you can go to CVS or Walgreen.
And that's exactly what you're going to do.
Hey, Uncle, Joe, I went to the game today.
What game?
Oh, the soccer game.
Yeah, Brazil and France, it's a little friendly.
I mean, Brazil lost 2-1 to France.
I got France probably winning the World Cup,
but I went to Cambodia took me to a place I'd never been to before.
Hey, something called Magianos, huh?
It was a little Italian spot.
I am.
You're talking about Maggianos?
The chain?
That's what I just said, huh?
Yeah, it's a chain.
Yeah.
It is?
It's not like rails.
Okay, I ain't know that.
This is my first time.
It was my first time.
Oh, okay.
It was good.
It was good.
It was awesome.
You know what?
I don't want to.
I bet it was unbelievable.
Would you have the chicken parm?
What I had eat?
Oh, I had chicken, chicken,
chicken fetichini and I added shrimp to it.
I had a shrimp.
Hey, if you ever had the bread that they give you
when they bring it to the table?
The bread.
Some garlic bread.
I don't know what kind of bread that was for,
but I asked the man for the recipe.
You wouldn't get to me.
Hey, hey, hey, I went to just one place.
I'm talking about this was a bear.
I mean, this, this, this, this, this,
this, this, this, a,
I don't know if you ever heard of it.
It's called like Olive Garden.
Oh, man, that thing is fine.
Who?
Olive Garden.
What's that?
Okay.
That's another chain restaurant.
You ain't never been an olive garden, no, Joe.
Joe, I'm trying to be funny.
That's a real restaurant, for real?
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, it's a real restaurant.
No, but if you're talking about like, like,
Rios, where you probably got to know somebody.
I mean, you can't get in there unless you know somebody
and the wait list is probably,
Without knowing somebody, you might have to wait six months to a year.
That's just a big.
What?
For a restaurant?
Yeah.
What's so special about it on?
Because I know you didn't have been in there.
I ain't have been there.
No, I mean, it's a very small and somebody owned all the tables there.
So you have to know somebody that own, yeah, somebody on the tables.
I mean, you probably, it's what, what, about 20, 30 people could have been there at a time?
That's it?
That's it.
Oh, that's why, okay, okay.
Hey, where's that?
It's in New York.
They probably taxing too, ain't there?
Yeah.
Hey, this sounds like something tomorrow probably on, huh?
Well, let's move right alone.
It's time for our final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q and A.
Hey, I'm going to try that.
I'm going to try that all of go.
I'm try that one day.
They got that in Miami too, huh?
Yeah, they do. I'm sure they do.
I'm gonna try that.
Before we get to our superchats, we got video voice mail from our Discord.
This one comes from Ahoo Treb.
Let's take a listen to what he had to say.
What's up?
What's up?
Ocho, Joe.
I know y'all see them hops, boy.
Boy, they're almost a fifth seed now.
They're playing the best.
They just beat the pistons.
What y'all think about them hocks?
They're going to make a run or not?
Joe, I know you lit.
Probably not
What'd you mean probably not?
I mean, he's talking about beating the pisses, but Kate ain't
Man, please, man, listen.
Hey, look, we can't help who they got out there playing now.
You hear me?
I understand, but you also got to be realistic.
Well, we are being realistic because they ascending at the right time, Ocho.
You see.
I mean, you said the same thing.
You said the same thing about the goddamn office all, too.
We didn't let it go.
Now, we're not already talked about that.
We're talking about the NBA seven games series.
Listen, we ain't going to be in no playing.
I know that.
We're going to get us a good seat.
And I promise you, it ain't many teams out there who want to see them hogs, man.
They're playing great.
I'm talking about great basketball.
I'm talking about we got a multitude of cats putting up great numbers,
whether it's the Alexander kid who has been tremendous this whole season.
We know what JJ's been doing, Jalen Johnson, and C.J. McCullum,
who I think when the postseason hits.
Yeah, he's playing well.
He's the one who's going to make.
make the huge difference because he keeps everything kind of mellow, chill, even when things
are a little erratic, he knows how to stay poised and patient and get to his spots to where
he can get a bucket or make the right play.
I love the team that we have, man, them dudes has been playing, they've been playing great
basketball for probably the past month or so.
Yeah, they got a good chance to do something special.
But I got a chance.
You know what guy I was thinking, Ocho, you got me thinking about Italian.
I mean, I can't remember the last time I had Italian food.
I can't remember.
No pasta, none?
Nah, I don't.
I mean, I'm just, just give me some steak, and I'm good.
I mean, when I worked at CBS, I was like, all the steakhouses I heard of.
So I went to Peter Lugar a couple of times.
I went to Sparks, I went to Keynes.
I went to Ben Benson.
So I was just trying all the steakhouses.
Yeah, yeah.
But a good friend of mine, Tracy, Tracy Perlman.
She worked in the NFL office.
She had me off.
So we're at Tau, Boudicom, we've at all these different places.
How do I think I know Tracy, she got like the little mold right there?
No, no, no, no.
I know you're talking about.
I think that's a-older, she kind of short of light-skinned lady?
No, she's white.
No, I think I'm thinking somebody else.
My bad.
Hey, hey, y'all, you name, you just name it off restaurants, man.
Hey, Uncle Joe, I got to expand my palate of something, man.
Man, you got to the same, hey, uncle, I got the same rotation of restaurants when I'm in Miami,
and I ain't changed in like 30-something years.
Bahama Breeze.
I like what I like.
Yeah, see, okay, see, exactly.
So y'all have breakfast got it.
Give me breakfast.
All things being equal, Joe, Ocho and Joe, give me breakfast.
Like, when you say breakfast, you want to eat it in the morning or you want to eat breakfast with it?
I can eat any time.
I can eat, I can eat grits, eggs, bacon.
Sausage, pancakes.
I can eat any time of the day.
Same.
That's same.
Same.
Anytime.
That's one thing I love about the size.
Yeah.
Brits.
Well, I got, we got a bunch of restaurants.
We got to try the pancakes.
Huh?
I love pancakes.
Yeah, I'm a little pancakes too.
They got to be good, though.
I like the edge is a little crispy.
I don't, yeah, yeah, I like my edge is a little crispy.
I don't like, I don't like my pancakes too, so.
I'm going.
Damn.
You like, my grand 89.
Right, ISO, you can't say woo or pee.
All right, all right, all right, all right.
All right.
Hey, look, you know what?
Hey, look, as I'm watching the game,
I said, man, these dudes gonna throw a parade,
they're gonna have a running of the bulls.
You know, yeah, I know y'all gonna pull out all the buildings.
Nah, Joe, Joe, you know, I ain't like that, man.
No, you the first one.
Yeah, I know who I'm dealing with.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It was, oh, Joe.
Oh, Joe.
Oh, oh, oh.
I came on the show very respectful.
You came on here with that old, that bull job.
That's what you came on it with.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You are, you, uh, you are, as Jordan.
I see, I see what's going on.
I see everything that's going on.
No, you know, uh, I'm on your side.
Yeah.
No, the Beverly Wilshire, they got a restaurant in there.
They got, they got the best.
That's what we should say.
I love the Beverly Willsher.
What?
Hey.
Yeah.
Y'all, y'all too rich from my blood.
I'm talking about the team.
The team I play, teams I played on.
on Ocho, we go to L.A., we stay at the Wilsher.
Oh, okay, okay.
I thought you said I think we should stay at the Beverly Wilshire.
Oh, no.
Hey, when I go to.
That's the Julia, Julia Robertson, Richard Gear movie.
Oh, pretty woman.
Pretty, that's where they stay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's too much for me.
Now, when I do go to L.A., there is one place I go get breakfast.
When I do, I don't frequent L.A. often, but I always go to toast on 3rd Avenue right by the
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
But what's you call them?
Just got the James Beard Award
for breakfast.
Silver spoon, the serving spoon, excuse me.
Servant spoon. Hey, right there off.
God damn it.
It's serving spoon good, man.
I like the service spoon.
I ain't never been, but I'm going to get there.
Kevin, non-delieuinal cowboy fan.
Hey, Uncle I, I, so this Saturday is my baby girl's eighth birthday.
She's a swimmer, also a cheerleader.
Can you guys wish Genesee?
happy birthday absolutely kem thank you for watching genesey happy birthday hopefully you
hey you turn it to katy ladecky and what does you do and a cheerleader i don't really know
maybe you'll be uh what's the movie that uh gabriel union uh which one the cheerlegy
and what's the name of that movie uh step up bring it on bring it on yeah so hopefully you're
Katie, you know, Katie Ledeckie and Gabrielle Ewing to bring it on.
But congratulations.
Happy birthday, babe.
You're unbelievable.
I know your dad is extremely, extremely proud of you.
And we here at Nightcap, we're extremely proud of you as well.
So happy eighth birthday and good luck in your swim meets and your cheerleading.
Hey, Kev, thank you for the support, bro.
Yes, sir.
Kevin Boat Knight.
Oh, Joe, I have the dumbest joke.
With someone say they're cold, tell them to stand in the corner.
It's 90 degrees.
I like it. I like it. That's a good one. That's a good one.
Yeah. D777. Iso, nothing personal, all business. Now you can't say March or madness.
As a matter of fact, call it November gladness because they're going to be gone.
You're going to be gone the month. You finally be glad your team play again next season. Bear down.
Yeah, everybody got jokes on the man. It's just that kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah. You were popping it, Joe. You was popping it for a little.
a minute by being no King ISO this and King ISO that.
And all of a sudden in defeat you can't take it.
They tired of me winning. They tired of me winning. I already know it.
That what it is? You know how I go. Okay. Okay.
Drew Jijitsu, whoo, y'all kill it.
Every day the fun, truly. Don't miss a pod.
Rogan still number two pod. Iso. You're my favorite hog, bro. You kill it.
Thank you, bro. Appreciate that. Thank you for the support.
You know, I mean, it's going to stay a little bit. Joe will wake up in the morning and then
realize, you know what, damn.
I ain't got no more about it.
We're going to move on.
We're going to move.
I got my hawks getting ready for the playoffs,
so I still got something to look forward to it.
Okay.
Okay.
And we're going to go to a game?
G.S. Cardwise detail service.
Go ahead, Ocho.
What did you say?
I'd ask Joe if me and him,
we're going to go to the game.
Y'all watch the tag Tyrese versus them guys can say.
I did not.
I did not.
I did not.
I did not.
I did not watch.
game. I was watching these games too. But I will go back uh, uh, we go back and take a
I see me, they say he put on the show though, tank. Hey, both them two can sing, boy.
For sure. Dennis Hadley, we need nightcap in Oklahoma. Bring ice. Yeah, I know that ain't
but a couple hours from where I went to college, Fayetteville, so. Yeah. Hey, Joe, you know I went
to, I went to the Langston. You went to Langston? You went to Langston?
My, my freshman year, I was a radio. Did you really?
Yeah, I was there with Matthew Hatchett.
You probably don't know Matt.
You remember Matthew Hatchet, Unck?
I do.
Played for the Vikings.
Yeah, I was a red shirt freshman, Matthew Hatchett,
Matthew Hatchet was on the team with me at Lansing.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, my dumb ad got thrown out for fighting.
Oh, man, what happened?
I never get a, A, uh, the president at that time was Dr.
Ernest Holloway.
What happened, Ocho?
What y'all were fighting for?
Hey, somebody stole, not my, not my predium.
What you call it a little money?
You get your little money from, um,
Your grant, your pale green.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It wasn't that much, Joe, but I felt I was rich.
I felt I was rich.
And it was in my room.
Only one person has access to the room, Unk.
Where is my money that I know I put into the draw?
Where's my money?
I'd never forget, man, I'm not sure what my big home years.
He was from Oakland.
Big Steve.
I don't know if you see this, Big Steve.
If you still with us, you know, God willing, I mean, reach out to your boy, man.
It's been a very long time.
Obviously, I haven't seen it since 1996.
If you still here with us, I mean, you know the story.
We got into it.
You know, we got the tough.
We got to fighting.
And I got in trouble.
I had a, I had a ring on my hand by accident.
And because-
How do you have a ring on your hand by accident?
I mean, I mean, you're not supposed to be fighting like that.
Yeah, yeah.
He got a little cut, little cut, man.
Mr. Holloway say, listen, we don't, we don't, you know,
condone this kind of behavior here at Lincoln University.
I mean, he sent me right back to Miami.
And that's how I up at, at, uh, so in other words,
you lumped him up.
I ain't say all that.
I'm trying to be very respectful
of the situation that happened.
You don't told the story,
you don't put the man name out there.
Yeah, I'm putting the name out there
because I would love the,
I would love to connect again after so,
so many damn years.
Nah, he don't want to talk to you.
He said he don't want to talk to you.
Hey, Big Steve,
or if you're out there,
but I don't know if you still stay in the Bay Area or not,
but wherever you at, man,
please get that support, man,
on Instagrams or stuff.
It'd be good to catch up.
Say, nah, like you say,
too much time is fast for years.
Like you say, Isaiah, you ready to go.
He said he's ready to go.
Yeah, I would just tell you, you know,
my circumstances are why I bounced from around.
Hey, hey, hey, but if he stole it from you, Ocho,
he deserved it now.
He deserved to get a long time.
I mean, I mean, Joe, we in college.
I know it's tight, too.
You know, you know, hey, that money I need that,
I know it.
I got to be able to eat.
Oh, man.
I know it.
You can tell when somebody get that pilgrim,
they're out eating every night.
Soon when that money get low,
you see it right back in it.
in the cafeteria. You must be, you must be down, ain't you?
Hey, I'd never forget, boy.
Hey, you know who went to school with me too?
Who there?
Boy William's sister.
Is this real...
The Cowboy or the receiving?
No, the Cowboys, Roe Williams.
Okay.
Yeah, she were the lengths of me, man.
They had a huge, not a huge following of students that were from Chicago at the time.
Right.
Oh, I wish I could connect with all them people, man.
Good day.
Blyford Busby.
Ocho, ISO puts a respect on Illinois.
Don't ever say we're going to lose
just sorry as Houston.
Go to Alina.
Y'all put that thump on them, bro.
Y'all did that thing.
They did, bro.
Drew Jiu-Jitsu 83.
ISO.
Woo-Pig.
Love y'all.
Woo-Pig, man.
Stay locked in, bro.
You know, you're a fan, man.
You're a fan of your team.
Be a fan even when things ain't going so well, man.
We locked there.
I feel you, Joe.
I'm with you.
Yeah.
We could say.
Yeah.
Oh.
Nah.
Oh, Cho.
Yo.
Ocho, what about that?
Be it on Joe up here, he got the crowd on,
he got to cry.
The people are gnawed in me.
He can't talk about that.
I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't control the outcome of this.
I don't think when me, when we do or something, I control that.
What about why you had to get the bell?
You had to get the belt.
They'll put up right now.
Okay, I want you.
We put up right now.
Good.
Keep it up.
What, and the crowd.
He got the, he got the belt laid down there.
He got the crown copped inside, Ocho.
It'll come out another time.
It's hard.
It's hard to be to-
It is.
I told you how heavy is the head
that wears the crown.
I told y'all.
See you to them.
I told you.
I come with that, man.
Like come with that.
We good 75 SEC, my butt.
So rolling with you tonight.
I lost my bag.
I need some back.
I need that.
My back jack.
Govall's great.
Oh, man.
He lost some money, huh?
Yeah.
It's all good, bro.
He can get his money back, though.
How he'll get it back?
Tomorrow bet with Michigan.
Bet with Michigan to win.
Well, I'm not allowed to-
No, I'll tell you how he can get his money back.
He bet me against you, me whooping your ass.
That's how he can get his money back.
He put down on that part of it.
He put that parley down, he's going to get his money back.
I tell you, I tell you what, if he put that parley down
and he bet with you to beat me, well, he's going to be mad two times.
He's going to be mad twice because if one thing, Joe,
when it comes to these hands, when it comes to these hands, right?
You hear me?
They registered out there in Vegas for a reason.
And they considered it a lethal weapon for a reason, Joe.
I told you, man.
I don't give it there and what they registered at.
Listen, a knockout going to be worth double.
I'm going to hook my man up.
Hey, stay loud at 10, bro.
Knockout pay double.
Yeah, you see them,
knockout double.
Yeah, that's how we bet the fight.
When you bet the fight,
knockout pay double.
I like that.
The funny thing,
the knockout mostly happens,
like when somebody get tired,
you know,
and you don't have discipline with your defense.
But, Joe, all that stuff, Joe,
I don't have perfected that craft, Joe.
I'm so disciplined,
you know, when it comes to combat sports,
I don't even think you get a punch in, honestly.
Man, what you got?
Come on.
That's what I'm at with it.
What you got on?
Hey, you're nervous now.
Rick Love, hey, Nightcap, fam, give us your Mount Rushmore.
In-game Dunkers in NBA history.
Blake Griffin, Dr.J., Mike, Kemp, Braun, Dawkins, Wilkins, others.
You ain't got Vince called in there?
No, Vince?
Amari Stademiah?
Vince.
Sean Kemp, definitely was an end-game dunker.
Ant-Man.
Yeah.
Well, I think you damn all as far as the in-game dunker.
And what about DeAndre?
That don't count because he's so damn tall.
I mean, he caught a couple of bodies, but he ain't like, I think Dr. Jay got me.
I think Vince Carter, Sean Kemp, man.
Sean Kemp was.
Yeah, he was different.
He was different.
And, in-game, because Dominique was double pumping back with the deal.
There you go.
We'll catch your body.
Hey, man, them do free.
You know who, hey, you know who a guy that don't get credit for it?
And he's a better endgame dunker that he would have been in a dunk contest?
Oh, yeah.
LeBron.
But he just do the same dunk, huh?
No, he gave him.
But I'm saying he don't caught bodies with that same dunk.
Oh, okay, I see what you mean.
I'm thinking about when we talk about endgame dunk because I'm thinking about creativity.
Well, ain't no creativity on dunk because you just, you just bam it on people.
Okay, I understand what you mean.
I understand.
I mean, I mean, think about how many people he got yesterday are, uh, uh, uh,
Indian?
Man, a couple.
He called a boy after a euro step with the left hand.
That's impressive at 41.
That's impressive, fella.
And then hit him with a layup, got fired to talk about both of you charts.
Yeah.
Sheldon Pope said, Iso is hosting, uh, are you hosting any events in Atlanta for, four, four day?
And are you inviting Ocho?
Hold on, when it's four-four-day?
What four-old day?
And to answer your second part of your question,
hell now, I ain't inviting Ocho.
Hey, hey, listen,
Joe, you know what's going to happen, Joe?
I'm going to just show up,
and I'm going to just show up and I'm in town.
Hey, you seen the airport in Atlanta?
Why ain't nobody trying to be sitting
no line, no five or six hours, man?
Hey, TSA, hey, what's a TSA, man?
People ain't coming to work.
Them folks ain't getting paid,
Ocho, what you want them to do?
I know, I know I'm just saying, but you have to understand.
You know, y'all was screaming at me for not coming to Maddox City night,
and the goddamn line of TSA was six, that was a five-hour wait.
You'd have been pissed off.
You probably had to stay here a couple days.
That ain't got nothing to do with you.
That ain't got nothing to do with you.
That ain't no line to get off the plane.
Tell them again, huh?
There ain't no line to get off the plane.
Where if it let you do that?
H.P. 201, Ocho.
Got to put that $5900 in the opportunity.
Oh, man.
It ain't going to go.
Oh, you.
Hey, hey, I'm gonna put it in there
because, you know, the Lord don't like noise, man.
Huh?
I like my buddy, too.
I got, I told you, I'm here for emergency situations.
Jordan, the goat, 96, Jordan did nothing wrong.
IT, one salty, old man, keep crying, bear down on your head, top ice.
So, look, like I said, I mean, you know, you hear
stories and say it did happen. They say it didn't happen.
Whatever it is, whatever is done,
ain't no undoing it.
It ain't no undoing it. It's like when, you know,
somebody get popped for steroids or something and
somebody else getting the medal. Well, I don't miss my opportunity
to get my national anthem played at the top of the podium.
You bringing me a medal of 10, 15, 20 years later.
What the hell that is? What good is that?
Nothing, none.
I don't get no heroes welcome when I come.
home. I didn't get to stand on top of the
podium and hear my national anthem.
You robbed me or that.
That's what it's about. Yeah, I understand.
I want to go metal, but hey, the whole thing
is the world to hear me stand
up on that top step and to hear
my national anthem
being played.
So I don't
really know, even if they were to give them a gold medal,
which they're not. I'm just speaking
hypothetically here, there ain't nothing going to undo
what's been done that many years ago.
We will take our reparations, though.
That'll help us.
828 style.
What's up?
Charlotte winning now because they got my Duke boys down there teaching them how to win
as a brotherhood.
They changing the culture.
They are.
They are.
They look good.
They're playing their ass off.
They look good.
They look like they got a bright future.
If they can keep them core guys together who's playing well,
obviously make the playoffs.
Hey, man.
Charlotte going to be in a good place.
JTV, Uncle Ocho, love the show, user name Jay.
Question for ISO.
Tracy Biggrey said, you called him late in his career.
What do you think you would have done with T-Mack
if you could have got played with him before the injury?
Man, I see, I'm a sponge, bro.
Like, any of them dudes, because I grew up idolizing, you know,
the Jordans, the Penny Hardaway, Penny who I played with for four years,
T-Mack, who I played with four years.
I just used to ask a lot of questions.
I never challenged them dudes in one-on-one.
ones, Penny, T-Mack, I never challenged none of them.
I just always asking information on how I could better my game.
Okay, Ocho, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like, show me something.
When they throw in that double and triple team on me, man, how can I still get open
and get me a, you know what I mean, and get to it.
So it's just the little stuff like that, bro, that they're having them type of vets around
who then led the league and scoring, who don't been super icons of the game.
That, man, just be a sponge.
to ask a lot of questions, just try to get some game from them.
That's what I was trying to do.
Alan Fletcher said 23.
We went the whole show.
ISO wasn't supposed to say basket or ball.
Yeah, all right now.
Look, look, look, look.
Go ahead.
Y'all have y'all fun tonight.
Go ahead y'all fun.
Man, hey, man, I told Ocho that, what, a couple of years ago, his team was lose.
I said, Ocho, since your team lost, you can't say foot or ball.
Man.
Don't let the brawold.
Or the Ravens.
He comes on here and talk.
Oh, yeah, man.
That joke of there.
Rodney M.
Say, what's up, nightcare?
Pretend your GM building a starting lineup
around your prime using players in history,
but you can't say players that you've played with already.
So, Joe, if you're going to pick a,
you build a starting lineup, who you played with?
He said, I can't pick players that I play with.
Yep.
All right, I'm going, I'm going Jordan, Cope.
I'm probably going to put them at the one end or two.
We're going to be a big lineup.
I'm going to go, I'm going to probably go with, oh, I'm probably going to go with Katie.
Nah, I'll probably go.
Yeah, I'll probably go Katie at three.
I'll go, at my four, I probably, probably go with a big,
I'll probably go Tim Duncan.
Tim Duncan and, you know, I got to have the Big Aristotle.
Yeah, give me Shaq, bro.
That's a good, that's a good score at that one.
Yeah, yeah.
Who you going?
Oh, who you got?
Oh, who you got?
Orlando Shack with something to be whole.
Shish, man, what you got?
Who are five, huh?
Huh?
Who are you going to five?
He going brun.
I'm going, Matt.
I'm going, oh, you're broad.
It's great.
No question.
Brown at the three.
I'm gonna go
Braun at the three,
Jordan at the two,
Magic at the point.
Wimby at your foe
and then Yokets, watch.
Nope, no.
I'm trying to win one game.
Magic, Jordan,
Braun, Duncan,
Shaq.
I don't know too many people
who ain't gonna have Shaq
the dude was just
It's filthy, bro.
You know, it's, like, if you, if you got to say, like, in today's game, yeah,
I would take Steph, Jordan, Yokin's and KD.
Mm.
Mm.
Mm.
That's a good, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, I don't know about that.
Well, you know how many, but you know how many, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, who, who, who
Who's going to cover Steph?
Because you're going to have to come down in a double
because I got two great pets.
I got LeBron and your.
Who's Steph going to guard?
Don't worry about it.
He'll be banging so many threes.
They ain't got to guard nobody.
Hey, the fridge found out.
Who can step go guard?
Don't worry about it.
Who's going to guard him out?
Hey, you left your boy Luke off.
Yeah, I got Jordan and Steph.
I got Jordan and Steph.
I get, I get, I get Luca, I get Luca,
Luca come out to bitch for me.
That concludes this episode of Nightcap.
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Arizona, the number one seed in the west,
move on after a 21-point victory over the Arkansas Razorback
and gave Cal his worst loss in tournament in history.
Illinois beat Houston, 6555.
Iowa defeated Nebraska 7771.
The clutch, the most important basket of the night.
Out of a timeout, Nebraska only had four players on the court,
a breakaway, layup, and one really put the game out of reach.
And the closest game of the night, the Purdue Boilermakers,
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