Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 2: Isiah Thomas QUESTION why Brunson ISN’T Face of NBA + Josh Hart KNEW Spurs Were COOKED + BIG 3 is BACK + Pistons to MAKE MOVE for Austin Reaves + NBA Draft Experts say Peterson OVER Dybansta

Episode Date: June 20, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Isiah Thomas wondering why Brunson isn’t face of the NBA, Josh Hart knew Spurs were cooked, Ice Cube’s Big... 3 is back, Pistons to make offer to Austin Reaves and MORE! Timeline:00:00 - Josh Hart knew the Spurs were good after seeing Wemby cry when they beat OKC14:40 - The new season of the BIG3 kicks off tomorrow19:00 - Pistons set to be a suitor for Austin Reaves44:20 - Multiple draft experts think the Wizards would take Peterson over Dybansta47:40 - Q & Ayyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:43 Josh Hart said tonight that the Knicks knew the Spurs were food after seeing Wemby cry when they beat OKC. Wow. Hey, you can't show that kind of emotion. I think a few other basketball players say the job is not done. The job is not over. The task at hand, the ultimate goal is the winner, the winner championship.
Starting point is 00:03:00 you know that Larry O'Brien. So to be crying because you're going to the final. I don't know if it was crying because they were going to the final. I think he was crying because they beat OKC, knowing how tough and challenging it was, knowing that they were the champions from last year. I think that's why he was. And they got the MVP on the roster.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Yeah, you go. Yeah. And Wembe probably feels slighted that he didn't win MVP. Yeah. Yes. Right. He said he used that in motivation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:30 So those emotions. came out. Yeah. I understand, but you... Oh, yeah, yeah, I mean, but at 22-Ocho, I mean, it's tough, bro. I mean, it's probably other cats who could have held them emotions in, but I just felt like they kind of took over. Like I heard them saying many press conference, like, he didn't really, he can't
Starting point is 00:03:52 explain it, you know what I mean? Like, it's just something he dreamed of, you know what I mean? And I think that's the, that's the, uh, uh, the great. part about sports, bro, because we all grew up, whether it's y'all catching touchdowns, whether it's me counting the shot clock down, making the game winning shot, and then for you to actually be in that situation and actually come through, yeah, I think it's very emotional. I think it's very emotional. Yeah, I got it.
Starting point is 00:04:20 And then he 22. You don't know. I'm sure he understood that, like, wow, because, I mean, some people had them in the play-in tournament. some people had them, you know, fifth or six seed, and here they are the number two seed, and they took down the reigning defending champ with the reigning defending,
Starting point is 00:04:39 MVP on the roster. They did that. I don't hold nobody's emotions against them because everybody does it differently. And I think the thing is that when you try to put, obviously, how you do certain things, you know, we all know how you do certain things, how you talk about your teammates
Starting point is 00:04:58 and how you carry on, that's very, very important. but everybody deals with success differently. Yeah. And some people, you know, like, hey, like, you know, some people, you know, cry like George. Yeah. When Jordan won and then he realized like, you know what, man, and maybe it was because his father wasn't there to see him celebrate this. It was on father.
Starting point is 00:05:18 And you see, and you see Kobe. Kobe got the trophy in his hand and he's just looking at it. And that was around the time that he and his mom them had stopped speaking. And all the things, all the thoughts that's going through his mind. some people like man please this is a time of my life I can't worry about who not here right everybody had a little situation differently
Starting point is 00:05:42 yeah I mean I mean Uncle Ocho when you look at it Jordan won a championship on Father's Day you know what I mean I think that's why it was so emotional for him you just seen him break down bawling crying hell I probably would have been the same way I ain't gonna lie to you if I was that close to my pop's bro and he got murdered, man, I've been saying we won't on Father's Day.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Come on, bro. Yes. I mean, death is really never easy. That's the thing that, I mean, you have to really respect and love about death. If there's anything because it doesn't discriminate. No. It takes young, it'll take old. It'll take rich.
Starting point is 00:06:22 It'll take poor. It does not discriminate. Just know when you have that appointment, you can't reschedule it. And death, you know, and people, there's no way to prepare it's like, well, how do you prepare for it? We all know we're going to die. It didn't make it any easier when it actually happens
Starting point is 00:06:40 to your loved ones that you left behind, but it's the fashion in which Jordan father succumb. So sudden. Man, 85, 90 years old, man, he had a great life. Man, you can remember, but tragically how somebody senselessly took that man's life and you think I'm Michael Jordan. I'm supposed to be able to insulate
Starting point is 00:07:01 stuff like that, I should be able to insulate my family from that foolishness. There are some things I can't control cancer. I can't control kidney disease, liver disease, things like that. There are certain things I don't care, they ain't get enough money. But there are certain things I feel like my money, my fame, I should be able to insulate him like that. Don't know. And probably whoever did this, you know, I don't know if sure they even knew what it was.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Right. until probably they went to his wallet and took it and they probably still didn't put two and two together. It was sad, and I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe, because I don't, I didn't really know anybody famous that father or mother
Starting point is 00:07:44 had gotten like this. So what are we looking at? So what? Remember it came on the news, father of Michael Jordan killed. What? First thing, what, you think a traffic accident? Not murdered.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Damn. Man. And because he looked just like his dad and how close they were. Think about it. Every time Jordan was something, he was right there. Now all of a sudden I win. Three Pete, finish off a three Pete. Hadn't been done 60, 67, Celtics.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Yeah. Hey, man. I think in certain situations, even when you look at Michael Jordan at 6'6, if you look at his parents Uncle Ocho Hill, you probably could even go through his whole family tree. He probably ain't got nobody over six foot,
Starting point is 00:08:40 six two, because you know what I mean? So I feel like, you know, in situations like that, man, it's almost destined, bro, because the athleticism that his brother Larry had and MJ had,
Starting point is 00:08:52 like his brother probably was more athletic than him, but he was just a lot smaller. Yep. You know what I mean? Versus MJ getting 6-6. Now he got this 45, I think they said even 50 inch vertical.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I mean, man, come on, bro. And his desire to work ethic. Yeah. And when you didn't took as many ass whoopens as he took from his brother coming up, kind of like, oh, you take all them ass whoopens, you be ready to do you be ready to do something on that when you get them. Hey, hey, let me get somebody. That's my size.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I just whipped them. Yeah. And, you know, he told a story that, what do you say about basketball? The reason why he loved basketball so much is because it's loyal, because he knows what he gives to it. It'll give it back to him. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I just love to hear greats. Serena and Venus and Mike and Tom Brady. I love them because, you know, Ocho, we and I say how greatness is and it's lonely and everything, they don't want to hear from us. But we talk about the upper- this is the, like the wealthy, like once you get to pass like that 50 billion,
Starting point is 00:10:13 there's only a certain level of people. Well, when you get to that Jordan and Serena and Tiger. And Jordan level, Tom Brady, Tigerwood, there's only a certain level of people that have ever reached that chisendo. And to hear them talk about what it takes
Starting point is 00:10:28 and the selfishness that is involved Yeah. Then you get an appreciation. Yes. Just a little bit of success that I had. I knew what it took, what nearly as great as those that never professed to be. But I knew in order, it is lonely and it is very mundane.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Yep. And unless, and who can join, what's the female equivalent of Jordan marrying someone that would actually know what he's going through? Hey. Serena, if she's seeking. And she's a 23-time Grand Slam champ. She would know that's why movie stars normally marry other movie stars
Starting point is 00:11:09 because they know what it's like to live that life. They know what it's like to jump in and out of character. Yeah. You see? Hey. And they the one percent of the one percenters of the one percenters. Yes. They're the zero point.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Whatever that point is like 99.9. They're that zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, like 55. 501. That's where they are. What was that? You know what's funny? The numbers you just said, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:40 there's another level above them, too. Yeah. What's another level above them, Ojo? Yeah. What, the elites? God. When you talk,
Starting point is 00:11:55 will you talk Jordan and Serena and Tiger Woods? Jack, Jack, Jesus. God. You start looking at the Stephanie Graf's and thing like that, man. I mean, yeah, it's crazy. I mean, think about me the work that, I mean,
Starting point is 00:12:12 and everybody hear about George's work ethic, how legendary it was. You hear about Kobe. You hear about Serena and all the balls that they hit and their dad teaching them. He's watching BCR tapes and teaching them how to swing and how to hit the backhand. And you hear about all the work ethic. And you hear about LeBron getting to the gym five hours early. and getting up a workout in and getting shots up
Starting point is 00:12:35 and to do that and you think about this you do all of that with no guarantee you ever going to reach the level that you think you are. You do it on a hope that this is going to pay off
Starting point is 00:12:52 and I tell people all the time hard work doesn't guarantee you anything but without it you got no chance. At all. You see I read a quote a couple of days ago guys they said two people that are smart
Starting point is 00:13:12 could never fall in love. One of them has to be an idiot to fall in love. See, the fall in love, see, the fall in love with a sport or the fall in love with something that you cannot control. Right. You got to be an idiot.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Damn, hold on. I'm not. I'm done, chat. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's the thing you were joining us for that for another episode. Hey, hold on.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Hey, that's a good one. Well, hold on. You got to write that down. You got to be... Because think about it, Joe. Think about all the work that you put in with no guarantee. I go to work every day. What about guaranteed?
Starting point is 00:13:52 I'm going to get a salary at the end of the work period. At the end of his work week. You work from the time you was nine, ten years of age. Titus, get out. As a matter of fact, get out. Hey, hey. Out. You work for the time you was nine or ten years old,
Starting point is 00:14:09 so you worked 12 years with no pay. basketball didn't pay you a dive. Ocho, you worked from the time you was 10, 11 years old, and football never paid you a dime. You worked on a hope that everything that I put in this would pay off one day. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:28 There are many of people that put just as much time, just as much effort in it, and it didn't pay off. Hold on, you got to bring me back to that question. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, basically. Hey, Ocho. Too smart people can't fall in love, Ocho. One of a, if you fall in love. in love, one of them have to be an idiot.
Starting point is 00:14:47 You've got to be an idiot to fall in love. Too smart people can't fall in love. Hey, hey. Hey, the moral of the story is we are all some damn idiots, okay? Yes, yes. Yes. To fall in love with...
Starting point is 00:15:05 And Jordan said it. Go back and look at some of his quotes. He said, I fell in love with this because it's the only thing I know would love me back. I got to use that for it. You do. It's more than an obsession. It's more than a commitment.
Starting point is 00:15:28 It's a singular focus. Because people say, well, plan A and plan B. What's your plan B? Well, if plan B was going with so probably, it would be plan A. I got no plan B.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I got a plan A. That's a lot of, that's a lot of cats out here too. Yeah. To fall in love, someone has to be an idiot. Too smart people can't fall in love Bocho, one of them has to be an idiot.
Starting point is 00:16:00 So that's how it works. That is, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's the only way it can work. Faith. That's a good. The Bible teaches us that you're supposed to have faith. Faith is the unknown, but believe it. You see, man says, show me, I'll trust you.
Starting point is 00:16:31 God say, trust me, I'll show you. You see a difference? Yeah. What, what man's, Oh, I would trust, okay, blindly trust. Mm-mm. Uh-uh. I said, you put your faith in me. I'm still stuck on that first.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I ain't heard that one, boy. You know, I'm, I'm not, I'm not. I do, I do, I do you're going to love that one. I like that. I like that. Josh, oh, man. All right, Wemby, you let them see your weakness. You got a button up.
Starting point is 00:17:18 The big, the, the, uh, the new C. Season of the big three kicks off tomorrow. Game one, you got the Detroit Amps versus the DMV trilogy. Game two, you got the LA riots versus the Miami, the 305s. Game three, you got to Houston. What do they call? The air hands, the rig hands. So I guess they off the Gulf.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Yeah, they're working a rig. Okay. And then you got the Chicago triplets. In game four, you got the Dallas Power versus the Boston ball halls. Yeah. Hey, it's going to be fun. You know, great parody throughout the league, obviously 305 coming off and winning the title. You know, having Lance Stevenson and Michael Beasley on the team, bro, I'm not going to lie to y'all.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Those two guys alone, they just, they're a handful. You know what I mean? So you got to have, not only do you got to have some dogs, but you got to have some guys who can put that ball in the hole, man. Because in the big three, we don't have a clock. We're not playing against no damn clock. It's the first one to 50. You know what I mean? So you've got to be able to get a bucket.
Starting point is 00:18:23 And the game gets hard when you get 40 points. When you get 40 points, okay, Ocho, everybody lock in. For every bucket. Hey, because I'm going to tell you something, the big three is far way more physical than the NBA, bro. Wait, they let a lot. Because you play it half-point, Joe. They let you get away with so much.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Like, it's files that don't get called, and you just have to play through it. And I respect it all because, As you have great defenders, you can't call everything, bro. This three on three, you know what I mean? It ain't much help. So at some point, if you got guys who causes mismatches, you have to give up something. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:04 Whether it's jump shots, whether it's mid-ranges, you don't want to give up layups. But I think the league is getting better, bro. They've extended the games. I think it's like 14, 15 games. It used to be only like 10 games. You know what I mean? So it's starting to, you know, spread out a little bit. And I think they cut the teams down, too, where it used to be like 14, 15 teams.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I think it's only like eight. Is it eight now? Because they got, they got, if right now it says eight, is everybody playing tomorrow? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They took it down to eight. So when you take it down to eight, obviously you put a lot. of talent on one team. So that's why I say the parody is so good.
Starting point is 00:19:49 So I think it's going to be fun. I can't wait to watch. Obviously, the team that I was on, the Detroit EMPs. I'm going to be honest with y'all. Even last year, I felt we had the better team, but we will hamper by injuries, obviously. And this year, I felt we had an even better team. But unfortunately, I can't play. So, you know, hopefully those guys.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Hey, what the first game? LA. What's the first game in? You going to any game? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the second week is in Detroit. I'm going to try to make it out to Detroit. I actually got two weeks in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:20:26 But I'm going to try to make a few of them. I'm trying to make a few. I might even come out there when they come to Miami, Ocho. Okay, I'm going with you. I bet I'm going to pull up out there for sure. L.A. versus Miami. Go ahead. I think.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, we're good. We're good. We're good. Yeah. Okay. Okay, okay. LA versus Miami, Michael Beasley versus Dwight Howard.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Round two. Tune in tomorrow, June 20th, 12, 30 p.m., Pacific Time on CBS and BET. Hey, man, I ain't going to lie. Boy, it hurt me that I can't play. I enjoy playing on that stage, Uncle Ocho, that CBS, that platform, that Cube, and Clyde Drexler and Cube partner Jeff has, you know, granted us older guys who still love to play the game, still in great shape.
Starting point is 00:21:16 So to watch it, I ain't going to lie, it's going to hurt to watch, but I'm going to be tuned in. Oh, Cho, we know you got to get out of here. So go ahead and get to your appointment and we'll catch you on Sunday. Hey, I love y'all, boys, man. Y'all enjoy, man.
Starting point is 00:21:31 I'm going to see y'all tomorrow, right? Yep, no, Sunday. Okay, okay, okay, okay. All right, love. Peace. Joe, according to Athletic Sam Amick, the pistons are expected to be a suitor for the Lakers guard, Austin Reeves.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Joe, do you like Austin Reeves in Detroit with Cade if the Lakers don't make a game? Hey, that's nice. Yeah, hey, oh, think about this. It's, as great as Detroit was this year, they struggled in the postseason due to a lack of scoring in the way A.R. Right. Because if, if what you call them didn't get it, they didn't get it. If Cade didn't get it.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Yeah, yeah. So it's hard because you want, he's got to be special every night just for y'all to even be in damn games. So you go get a guy. I like AR, don't get me wrong. I wouldn't mind seeing AR next to K. I wouldn't mind seeing Kyrie Irvin next to K. Yeah, hell, I wouldn't mind if Houston got off of Kevin Durant
Starting point is 00:22:27 and he went over there. It's the plet of guys who I think could fit next to K. Obviously, AR is probably best suited because he's a free agent. I think, man, I think it'll be a match made of him because they're a great defensive team. So you can hire AR. to some degree. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yes. Yes. You got Thompson. Cage can play defense. They got some guys that can play. The question is, Cade, A.R., do you keep Tobias? Obviously, you keep in Thompson.
Starting point is 00:22:59 But the Thompson twins, bro, y'all didn't get in the gym and just work on shooting the basketball, especially Osir. That's what they got. They got to. You got to, well, nowadays, playing in the league,
Starting point is 00:23:09 you got to be able to score that ball. You got to be able to shoot at least, hell. Because if you can't shoot, then you're a liability. out there. More trade talk, Joe, more intel from Sam Amic. He said the Celtics have an interest in Troy Murphy to third, if they can't land Janice. Rival execs believe the books are underwhelmed by offers for Janus. Grizzlies are hopeful that John Morant would be some teams plan B after Yonis is moved. Heat have been known to have serious interest.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Kauai Leonard is also the Heats Plan B, but no one around the league knows if he's available. Joe, it's hard. I know you got to trade, Yonis. I know that. Every other team, 29 other teams know Milwaukee's got to get off Yonis. They also know he's not signing an extension. With that being said, there are other teams that say we might want him, but he wouldn't sign an extension with us,
Starting point is 00:24:12 and we'd be foolish to give you draft compensation and only have him for as a rental. So there's probably what, three or four teams that Yonis is, Maybe the Celtics, probably the heat, maybe the Warriors. I only see those first two teams. The heat and the Celtics, because if I'm yonest, honestly, I really don't want to go messing around in that Western Conference, man. Say, hey, you stay in the East, you team, if you can go, if you can get to Boston,
Starting point is 00:24:42 if you can get to Miami, you can basically be a top three team in the Eastern Conference and potentially come out, you know, because if he can stay healthy, obviously we know that we know how that calf we know how that calf is so but if he can stay healthy and be putting up them goddine numbers that he's been putting up the past summer a year man please whatever team he go to they're going to be favored in the east right so it's going to be it's going happy pride month Toronto pride is an opportunity for you to create your own space to celebrate your existence iHeart radio is proud to be an official sponsor of pride Toronto festival and we won't stop.
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Starting point is 00:28:59 or whatever you get your podcast. It's going to be very interesting to see how this thing plays out. The problem is, is that everybody had been talking about this Yonis thing for about two years, Joe. So it's not, it wasn't like a Luka that it just, boom, but just happened. Everybody's been talking about this.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Yon has bears some culpability because, you know, the coach, the coach that he got, Bud got gone, J-Kid got gone, Adrian Griffith got gone Holiday got gone there are guys obviously
Starting point is 00:29:33 Middleton started to get injured a little bit more so he wasn't as reliable as he needed to be but he has to bear some culpability in this and I think the thing is that he wants all the perks that comes along with being a superstar
Starting point is 00:29:45 but none of the blame as far as responsibility that comes along with being a superstar because he saw the backlash that LeBron gets. He saw the backlash that KD gets. He don't want that. At the end of the day, Yonis really wants to.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Yeah, that's why he pushes, well, it's going to be my wife's decision. It's going to be my agent's decision. It's going to be everybody's decision except the guy is going to have to play in the new location. Hello, the one who got to deal with it. It's your decision. Hey, I thought the buck's done everything right for yon. Yeah, they had both his brothers on the damn team. What more you want?
Starting point is 00:30:22 You know, you got. And neither one of them can play dead in the West. So I think we all know Yonis is going to get traded, but like you said, man, ain't no team willing to give up them to half their roster for them. They ain't doing that because they know you got to get up off of them. And you got to get up off of them. And what have we seen over the last couple of years?
Starting point is 00:30:44 The injuries are starting to come with great regularity. And they're starting to keep them out for extended periods of time. Yeah. That's fact. That in conjection. That's not innuendo. That's not speculation. It's done.
Starting point is 00:30:56 They ain't getting no younger. He ain't getting no younger But it's a It's a plet of guys out there I want to see what Jai is going to go I want to see Jai get back to being Jai You know He got some work he got to do
Starting point is 00:31:09 Hopefully he'd been in the lab Because that three point percentage If you shoot 20 or 15% from the three I know Because they That should meat and potatoes You know from the point guard Spotting if you can't shoot
Starting point is 00:31:24 Bro I'm going under every pick And I'm going to make you every last one of them. Because I know I'm keeping your ass out to paint. And if you look at it, Joe, look at his paint points. They've come down every year. Yeah. Now, if he can't get to the paint, he can't shoot the three.
Starting point is 00:31:41 It ain't like he got the minute. His, he lives. He does, bro. He's Derek Rose 2.0. Yeah. And in order for him to expand that game, he, well, you know what he needs to be. Yeah, boy, well, the thing is,
Starting point is 00:31:56 It's kind of carbon copy with Janus. Hell, he's been hurt. He's been hurt the majority of the time. You know what I mean? And it just, it hurts your value, bro. When teams take a look, they like, damn, the past two, three years, you know, hell, I don't even know if he didn't play 60 games. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:17 So it's some challenges that come with, you know, guys like Jai and Janus. But, man, look, that's a risk and that's a chance that I don't. be willing to take. Uh, yeah, for sure, for sure. I mean, the thing is, though, Joe, I mean, Yonis is going to want a long-term extension, Joe.
Starting point is 00:32:40 He's going to want four years at, at probably 60 a year. You're going to have to pay. What is, what is the most Yonis can sign for? I mean, theoretically, he could wait until January, I mean, wait to the trade,
Starting point is 00:32:52 uh, the all-star, the trade thing, and then sign the extension, but I don't know if anybody's willing to chance that. Yeah, he ain't, if he gets traded, he's going to want a contract.
Starting point is 00:33:00 immediately. Yeah, he ain't, he ain't gonna be willing to risk that, like. He's, uh, he, huh? Yeah, he's eligible for forces, 275 with the bucks. That ain't happening. Because I don't see the bucks doing a sign and trade. I don't see them appeasing it in that aspect. Nah, you're going, you go on over there where you want to go.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Yeah, they ain't going to do that. They ain't going to do that. Because, hell, you're going to have to, you're going to have to give up half your team if you, if you do a sign and trade like that. If you're, if you're a team that's getting into it, but we know, he's going to go somewhere, man. I don't know where, but I'm looking forward to this draft. I'm looking forward to what's going to happen during the draft, after the draft,
Starting point is 00:33:39 free agency. You know, I want to see what, I want to see if the Lakers going to be able to bring Brian back. Yeah. We're going to find out here something. I mean, things are going to start. The draft is Tuesday. They're going to start percolating here shortly after that, Joe.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Or before that. Okay. Yeah, it's, hey, it's some top guys. man, because I think I think we know Yon is going to be gone I'm almost
Starting point is 00:34:06 sure. We bet you not Janus was going to be gone and Jai we've been doing that be right next to him on. You got to get him out of Memphis
Starting point is 00:34:14 but got to get him out of them. No guys we don't bring up devout it's just like there's a reason why all of a sudden there came with
Starting point is 00:34:22 Carfax on cars people don't been in a damn demolition derby and they want you to pay full price for the damn car and that thing
Starting point is 00:34:30 that's been in a demolition Derby. That's why they got carbacks. The problem is that with an NBA player, I get a chance to see him that he missed 30 games. He missed 40 games. He missed half a season. He missed an entire season. What do you mean? Bring up injuries. That's a part of it.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Yep. It is. You pay in full price. Tell me this situation. The house they got flood damage. You're not playing full price for it. A car that's been in an accident. You're not paying full price for it. Come on, Chad. Ain't bringing up no injuries. It's facts. Yeah, injury prone guys, bro.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Yes, it's fact. Look at the, look at John the last three years. Has John been injured? Yes or no? It's a simple question. Yes or no. The last three years, have Yonis missed time with injury? It's a simple yes or no.
Starting point is 00:35:20 And when you look at it, you got to look around our league, bro. A lot of the top guys in the NBA on, they've been getting hurt. and it's been catastrophic, yeah, because the game is played at a much faster pace than it's probably ever been played at. I believe it's getting back to where it was in the 80s, Joe. And I know you were just a kid, but Joe, games were 158, 163,
Starting point is 00:35:51 170 to 150, 145, 14. It was at that pace for a period of time. And then the NBA, for whatever reason, like, well, we don't like these time of game. and then they went totally the other way. Now you had 78, 78, 75, 72, 69 ballgame. And they're like, man, this stinks. And they kind of went.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And now they're just like, you see the pace routinely. You're into one-twenty. Easy. Easy. That's light. Yeah. So it's going to be some major moves made, bro, here in the next few days. I think, I think teams realize they have to make
Starting point is 00:36:30 these moves. I think the thing is, I think we're kind of done with the super teams, Joe. What you mean? Like, three, uh, uh, yeah, I don't think you'll ever see LeBron, uh, no, no, no. I don't think you'll ever go see, uh, uh, KD and stuff in a situation like that. I don't think you're going to do that anymore. But I think, I do think the thing is, though, I think these owners are going to try to put pressure on some of these guys to do what Brunson did. And I don't think these
Starting point is 00:36:55 players are going to do it. No, everybody. I don't see, I don't see, I don't see players taking $1113 million. haircut. I might take a two, three million dollar haircut a year. So I might take a $20 million haircut, $113 job. No, ain't nobody doing that all. Bro, I say, give me a, I say, bro, give me a skin fade, not a cojack. You cut all my damn hair off. Hey, hey, and playing in New York too? Yeah, ain't nobody, ain't nobody doing that, bro. Kudos to Brunson for that. But a lot of these cats coming up, damn, man, listen. And if you're on draft well, it's going to be hard to compete, man,
Starting point is 00:37:32 because like you say, it's going to be hard to get these free agents, guys lead these teams knowing that they can get that extra year already on the team that they own. It's going to be some challenges that'll come with this. Yeah. Man, I go to the barbershop, I say, hey, give me that number five. Oh, Joe, you know, you go to the barbershop, they got like 30 pigeons up there.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Yeah. Let me get that number five. Hey, that joke will spin you around and you look at the mirror. Like, what the hell is this? You're gonna cut my damn hair off My granddad My grandmother's shop He'd a fellow sleep up there in the bed
Starting point is 00:38:09 And the barber cut in a mustache Oh man Man Man Who in the hell told you to cut my Yeah Well I remember them day Back then her cut one but about
Starting point is 00:38:22 $5 man Yo I remember hair cut with a dollar Dollar Damn My grandma My grandpa My grandpa was my grandfather My grandfather used to always take us to the barbershop.
Starting point is 00:38:34 There was a guy named Bobby Lee Wilkins used to cut out here, but the guy that cut out here the most was a pastor that came down on, he comes out late Friday, but normally Saturday, and Reverend Green, he would cut out here, me and my brother, $3. Papa would give us, give Spanky the money, and he would go do what he got to do. Because normally, because you know back then, hey, how many, I'm next, and so you just sit outside and then the barber can get you.
Starting point is 00:39:01 And then people started lying. Well, I was here first, and then I was here. And then you started having to take a ticket. And then they started taking appointments. So I remember like a dollar 50 was a haircut. And then when I got to college, you know your teammates cut your hair. Then, hey, $1, $2 haircut. You know, hey, they weren't no professional.
Starting point is 00:39:21 But, hey, you ain't lying. I had a teammate, my partner, he used to cut out here in college. We used to pay him about $20 a cut. Yeah. A $20? You pay $20 a cut on it. Oh, no, Joe. Man, hey, man, we paid $2, $3, $4.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Y'all getting no, that man can give you nothing but a bowl, ain't it? Oh, no, no, no. Who cut by here? Mud, a dude named Wesley McGriff, we call it mud. Roughhouse, Ruff House still a barber to this day. And Squirrel, the other receiver. And Coot. We had a little guy named Coot.
Starting point is 00:40:00 they cut hair. No, I, I don't remember, in college, I ain't never paid more to like $3,4. Man, please. Yeah, they, they were starting to go up by then, man. But you got to realize,
Starting point is 00:40:16 Joe, that was paid. How much, how much was $3 in 1986 to 1989? That's probably about 1520. In today's? Yeah, yeah. Now, no, haircut went,
Starting point is 00:40:30 and then, a dude named Sammy Murphy or sometime my grandpa, well, my grandfather started taking us to it with the dude that cut his mustache up. He started taking us to clacky to get out here cut Sammy Murphy he got out here. 1986, 89, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:49 It was $3 worth $8. No, I ain't paid a. But I'm talking about, man, there wasn't nobody paying no, man, I wish I might pay $10 for a damn haircut from somebody ain't got no license. Man, you better take that $3 and get out my damn. Hey, I ain't, but, but my men's could cut, though.
Starting point is 00:41:07 He used to, he used to use the blade, everything back in. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, as a matter of fast, hey, I go, hey, because woppers back then, Joe, you get to have a special on whoppers some days that you get a wapper for 99 cent. Hey, bro, I get you a wopper in the pride and soda. Hey, hey, you could go to Wenders and get that 99 cent double stack, baby. Hey, hey, I was in there, right, hey, I had a little hookup at Wenders.
Starting point is 00:41:33 I go through that, give me a cup. couple of them 99 stack, double stacks with some nuggets? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, just, because I had to hook up at McDonald's. We can walk to Burger King because Burger King was at the end of the campus. So we could walk down there, a whopper, you know, a wapper with cheese with 99 cent. But I had to hook up at McDonald's, send Hillary.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Yeah. Thank you. I go get two Big Macs, a 20-piece nugget, super-sized fries, super-sized drink. two apple pies. Oh, yeah, boy, you, you, hey, look. Every Friday, I ain't miss a Friday. And then I got in good with her manager, and her manager would look it up for it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Hey, hey, next dough, next door to the wind is, was a Sonic. And I had to hook up there, Sonic. Oh, so we have a sonny. I should go to get that big grape slush. Yeah, yeah. See, we got, we had the slush at a circle tape. Yeah, oh, okay. Y'all got circled in the south.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Titus. Back up. He's coming here to start some bulljazz. Yeah. Oh, but those with the time. And then you know we get that, we get that work steady money. Hey, we go, and me and the guys, we go to Rines.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Hey, all you can eat buffet, them wings, that mac and cheese and them, that bread with that honey butter. Cut her. Boy, they know they hate to see us coming. Hey, hey, you leave a bite of that fat fool. What? Because in spring, we have spring balls. So every Saturday that's what we would do.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Take a shower. Hey, we go, hey. We go to the arrive to be about 10, 15 of us. I'm talking about A, A. If you're going to lay down, come on. Come on. Because I know you're going to do you guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Hey, hey, hey. Hey, the dessert at them buffet, boy used to be off the chain in the man. Oh, yeah, man, they got chocolate chip. They got,
Starting point is 00:43:43 I'm not a brownie's guy, though, Joe. I'm not a brownish guy. But, you know, they got that sauce served ice cream. Chocolate, strawberry, vanilla. Yeah, yeah, they got that. And then they had that, then they add that squirrel.
Starting point is 00:43:54 You go crazy. Yeah. Bad Joe. I know exactly what you're talking about. Bad Joe. Hey, I swear I know what you're talking about. Hey, do they have a hell. Do they still have rhymes?
Starting point is 00:44:06 Anybody know if they still have rhymes available somewhere? I need to go to the riot. Man, we had a, I think it used to be called Bonanza when I was a. Okay, yeah, that was a TV show. You remember Banas? You used to come on? Well, Haws Cartwright, Joe Cartwright, Big Ben Cartwright. I don't remember that.
Starting point is 00:44:22 There was a, there was a Western called Bonanza. And the ranch was called the Pondon. Oh, okay. Big Ben was the dad. House Little Joe Little Joe was Michael London Who also starred in a little house in the prairie
Starting point is 00:44:40 He was the dad in Little House in the Prairie There ain't no remote rinds Damn Yeah I think they I think they got I still think they got country buffet What about country buffet? Boy, hey
Starting point is 00:44:55 Me and my mama We hit up we hit that we hit that buffet Oh boy like it wasn't nothing Man Joe I ain't even know what a buffet was. I didn't know what the buffet was until my freshman year, my freshman sophomore year in high school,
Starting point is 00:45:10 coach told us, hey, if y'all run good down here, we in Savannah, say, if y'all run good, I'm going to take y'all to a buffet. Like, man, what's a buffet? Ain't nobody know, man, I don't know. Hey, he's saying you're going to take us out to eat so good. Man, we went down and tore it up, Joe.
Starting point is 00:45:24 We're coming to first place. We go in the first place. We get first place. So we go to this place. Coach Hall, he paid, and we go. I see all his food. I see chicken. I see pork shop, green beans,
Starting point is 00:45:40 mac and cheese, rice, rose. I see all this stuff. So I'm just looking around. I said, man, what we do? Somebody said, man, I think you just go around and you can get whatever you want. I say, huh? So we can get whatever we want?
Starting point is 00:45:58 It's like, yeah, I think that's what a buffet is. I think you just get whatever you want. lady walked by, I said, ma'am, I would like, she said, no, it's, it's, it's, it's help you. Yeah. You get whatever. Oh, you cut up. Now, you know, I can't get to love that like you,
Starting point is 00:46:13 man, yeah. And we ain't never been to those bump, baby, you know? Then first place. So, Joe, that fried chicken. So we got on our tracksuits. I got, I got fried chicken. I put fried chicken in my pocket. Hey, I'm taking a cook.
Starting point is 00:46:32 I'm wrapping. cookies up and paper and tissue and putting them up pockets. So Coach Hall sees us. He don't say nothing. We don't eat a belly foot. I'm stuffed, Joe. I'm talking about I'm stuffed. I'm stuffed to them.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I said, Lord, have mercy. We get on the bus. Coach Hall get on the mic. Hey, suckers, it's all you can eat. Not all you can eat to take out. Man, I saw that chicken. up me, I saw all that food up there. I said, ma'am, I'm taking some of this stuff on to my
Starting point is 00:47:06 grandpa's sister. Man, y'all must be my job of mine. Think I ain't fin to take nothing about here. Ain't nothing like that buffet, boy. I'm talking about you eat to your stomach hurt. Yeah. You do. Eat to your stomach hurt.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Yeah. And you like, hey, I see. My girl would always say, boy, your eyes are in your stomach. And it is. You absolutely right, Grady. I will eat. I will eat. I'm, you, I make, I make myself.
Starting point is 00:47:33 I made myself sick. I ain't never seen that much food before. Unless it's out of church. And, you know, you don't fix your own plate. The old ladies fix your plate in the church. And they ain't fin to give you all that stuff. You know, hey, you might get a two piece, you know, a wing and a short thigh. You know, you might get two pieces of chicken.
Starting point is 00:47:51 You get some black eye peas, some mac and cheese, some greens and a slice of bread and some cornbread that they made it. Is it? Man, I see all the butter rolls up there and all that stuff. I say, man. Hey, hey, by the time you get the dessert, you're already full, but I'm already stuck. I'm just eating dessert just because I wouldn't just say I ate some dessert. I ain't got no more room to put nothing. That's how I go.
Starting point is 00:48:14 That's how I go. Yeah. But I had, you know, had a teammate, they could go throw up and then come back and eat some out. Oh, man, come on. Yeah. No. No. That's too much.
Starting point is 00:48:28 That's too much, man. I couldn't do that. They used to have pizza. Pizza Hut used to be the thing. On Tuesday night, they have a buffet of pizza. All you eat pizza, probably was like $5.99, $6.99. So, you know, they have all the pieces out there. I've always been a very simple.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Just give me ground beef, cheese, I'm good. You know, I'll eat pepperoni here and there now, but I ain't all that pineapple, all that other stuff, the black olives and the green peppers. I don't know onions. I don't vote that for pizza. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Me and two of my teammates, man, Joe, I would ate, I think I ate like 18 slices. Damn. Thin slices of pizza. Yeah. And then I had, we had a homeboy named Big Willie, Big Willie probably. He was a freshman like me. Big Willie probably about six-fold, probably about three-foughty. Man, Big Willie ate like 22 slices.
Starting point is 00:49:22 He ate spaghetti. He ate lasagna. And then throw up? Man, that joke was saying, hey, no, man, look here. That joke was losing that belt. I think I made the mistake, Joe, is that I was drinking too much. Because, you know, I like that. I like to eat drink.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Eat, drink. He just ate, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight. He ate like ten slices before he had a little silk. Oh, no. I couldn't do that. Oh, no. No. No, I don't want no.
Starting point is 00:49:51 I just want ground beef. Like I said, I'll eat a little pepperoni now, but I just want ground beef. I'll give me double ground beef, a hamburger, whatever they call it, and cheese, I'm good. I used to do a little bacon here and there, but I'm simple. I don't want no pineapples. I don't want no anchovies.
Starting point is 00:50:07 I don't want no olives. I don't want no onions. I don't want no pineapples. I don't want none of that. Hey, hey, give me that deep dish meat lovers. Pause. I'm going to. Joe, that's like that thing.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I'm going to town. You ain't going to eat one slice? No, no. You give me one. When I ain't got nothing in my system, I get a few. slices down. Hey,
Starting point is 00:50:31 we'll see, that's that, see, you order a deep dish or you eat a couple slices, that's that high. That's that high,
Starting point is 00:50:37 homie. When they're crust, when they crust hitting right, it's real crunchy. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm going in.
Starting point is 00:50:46 I ain't going to lie to you. Yes, sir. According to Mark Stein, Joe, multiple draft expert legitimately believe Wizards could take
Starting point is 00:50:56 Darren Peterson over A.J. DeBonza at number one. I don't see that. I don't know what the report's coming from, but I mean, just when you look at the makeup, hell, 6'9, you can't teach height, okay?
Starting point is 00:51:10 Now, if you got the height and you got some game to go with it, it's just hard for me to believe that the Wizards is going to pass up on A.J. DeBosso, bro. That's hard for me to believe. That's hard for them. Now, I know the kid out of Kansas, Darren Peterson. I know he's a hell of a talent he can play. but boy, listen,
Starting point is 00:51:32 they both great talents, but if I had to pick one, I'm going to A.J. One, bro. I agree with you. Here are some of the 10 worst draft mistakes in NBA history. The Portland Trailblazers
Starting point is 00:51:45 passed on Michael Jordan to select Sam Bowie. The Royals passed on Bill Russell. Minnesota take two-point guards. Ricky Rubio and Johnny Flynn at 5 and 6 and pass on Steve Curry. The Blazers.
Starting point is 00:51:59 take Greg Oden over Kevin Durant. The Pistons passed on, took Darko Milichick, and they passed on Melo Anthony, Chris Bosch, and D. Wade. The sons and the Kings, they passed on Luca Donchich. The Sonics traded Scotty Pippins for,
Starting point is 00:52:17 what's the guy? He was from Virginia. Oh, okay. That's who they traded him for Oldham Polynes. Ah, man. The Blazers take Leroux Martin over Bob McAdoo. the Grizzlies take Hashim Thabed over James Harden.
Starting point is 00:52:33 And I remember this. The Warriors traded Robert Parrish, the number three pick for Kevin McHale to the Celtics for number one, Joe Barry Carroll. If I'm not mistaken, Joe Barry Carroll was a Purdue baller maker. I don't know what the hell of Minnesota was thinking, taking Rubio and Flynn,
Starting point is 00:52:52 you know, back to back like that. Under A, A, A. There's stuff like that that haunts you, bro. Like, you pass on step. Yeah, I just think sometimes these GMs, they, they overthink it. You know what I mean? It's just like, if you ask me, it's just like this draft. If you don't take AJ first, you're just over there I'm thinking it.
Starting point is 00:53:12 You know, I know, hey, I know Peterson probably don't want to go to Utah. If Utah probably going to take Booza, but, man, if I. But the thing is, why would I, why would I take Peterson when I got Trey? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like you're going to go get another guard. You already got a hell of a point guard than Trey. When you can go get this six, nine feet,
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Starting point is 00:58:47 How do I deal with my baby mother being bitter about a new woman and saying she's jealous even though she has a new man? I want to just focus on the child. And nothing you can do. Just make it look. Don't ever go back and, you know, do what you did to get this baby. That's the problem. When you double, hey, hey, you're looking at your baby mom and you double back. And when you're doing that, bro, it's going to be a lot of confusion, conflict.
Starting point is 00:59:16 That's going to bring all. Yeah. You can't do that, bro. He's not do that. Leave it. Leave it. Sleeper slope. Wow.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Barry. And I understand some of you, you know, you might have a barrier track. the mama and she's looking good and she's like, we can be together. But I'm telling you, bro, you're asking for trouble. And look, some might be cool. I mean, you know, you went, I went through that when I had, you know, and why you can't be with me, but some things are just offered without explanation. But whatever you do, bro, don't you, don't, hey, don't you spend the block.
Starting point is 00:59:50 You came, bro. And when they withholding the child and won't let you see your child, you got to hold them emotions, bro. You can't, you, because see, they want you to act a fool. That's what they want. You can't act no fool, man. Hey, hey, take it. Take it how it may come. You got to deal with, however
Starting point is 01:00:11 you got to deal with it, but. And the system is not set up for the man. Oh. Because if you act a certain way, the courts are going to step in and make you act accordingly. They act a certain way, they're going to be like, oh, well, you know, you guys just need to work it out. Are we, I,
Starting point is 01:00:28 we ain't got no rights, or not. No, I ain't tell it what somebody tells me. Tell you what I know. I'm with you. Boy, I don't been there. So I just say, bro, just do the best you can. Just make sure you be there for the child.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Do whatever you can for the child because like you said, she's moved on. She got a new man. But the problem is she wants to hold you hostage because they feel that they're the connection. And they know that you want to be most, some, not all. There's some men like, hell, you do whatever you want to do. got to see the child so forth its own. But for the most part, most men want to see their kids. And they hold the kids as a ploy, as a hostage, as leverage.
Starting point is 01:01:10 And it shouldn't be that way. And then the kid grows up thinking that the father didn't want to be a part of his life. The kid grows up with a resentment towards his father, not knowing the mother played a huge role in that. Yep. Yep. And you saw the Michael B. Guys, I had Michael Beasley on you heard. what his mom was telling him
Starting point is 01:01:33 that wasn't the truth because when he had an opportunity to talk to his dad his dad said I tried to see you I would come over there your mom would take all my money and still wouldn't let me see you so he built up a resentment
Starting point is 01:01:43 towards her yeah man I get it when you know everybody says all the thing yeah I want to be with you and you have a child and you bring another you bring a life into this world
Starting point is 01:01:55 and I know maybe it was a lie where I'm gonna be with you forever things happen things happen and you have to go your certain your separate ways but don't use the kid as leverage don't use the kid as a ploy to get back it's supposed to be you and your co-parent for the best interest of the child it should never be in the best interest of you it should never be in the best interest of me what is in the best interest of the child well and it's hard because we When emotions get involved, there's a lot of times you say and do things that you wouldn't
Starting point is 01:02:36 normally do. Hey, and don't let them know that you really love your child and you really want to be in your child. Oh, man. Boy, they're going to make a hell on you. They're going to make a hell on you. But I would just say, bro, just pray and just hope. Before you know it, you'll blink and the child will be big enough and can have his own,
Starting point is 01:02:57 have his or her own phone and they can have to be a direct line of communication. but in the meantime, bro, it's tough. And so when it's going through a similar situation, it's tough. And then when you look back at it and, you know, I was able to sit down and like, you know, hey, there were some mistakes that were made that we could have done things a lot different. We could have made, we could have done things a lot different. But me being who I am kind of, bro, I ain't been to let you get up. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:26 I ain't even let you get up again. You got to fight back now. You got to fight back. Yeah. Love both athletes and both all times great, but do you think created more negative ripple effect than their sports? Steph Curry with all these threes and everyone liked to shoot of Floyd since everyone wants to finish undefeated.
Starting point is 01:03:47 I think both, bro. Like I think even in the boxing world, you know, you have a lot of these guys who don't want that, who don't want that one or that astrid on the side of their record. So everybody wants to keep the O. And in basketball, yes, I think Curry, has definitely changed the game. Well, to where guys shooting these 30, 40 foot three-pointers, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 01:04:09 thinking they step. And some are successful, some aren't. But I think they both are a significant part of, you know, definitely the boxing world with the, with the O and with guys shooting these long threes, bro. I think the thing is that for me, I think Floyd, because I don't think when I look at the historic greats, I don't think. think anybody look at Roberta Rand. I don't think anybody look at Hagler or Sugar Ray or Tommy
Starting point is 01:04:39 Hurons or Muhammad Ali and say, well, they're not great because they're not undefeated. If you go back and look at it, most people have Rocky Marston-Arno ranked below a lot of these heavyweights, even though he was undefeated. And so now we don't get the fights that we should get because everybody is ducking. Everybody says, well, I mean, if I get,
Starting point is 01:05:02 If I don't, if I'm, if I'm, get a blemished on my resume, people are not going to look at me the same. And that's sad because it's the opposite of the M.MA. Yeah, I will. I mean, George St. Pierre still gets ranked as one of the greats, even though he has a loss. And, and, when you look at it, you got to look at the era that we're in, too. You know what I mean? The social media era. Everything is magnified times a hundred and nine days, as opposed to be.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Back then you take a, yeah, everybody knew about it, but now, here, it's going to be so many clips that you're getting your ass knocked out or losing. You know what I mean? A lot of cats don't want to have to feel their ripple effect. And because I grew up in the 80s, I remember all the great fighters fighting each other. Sugar Ray fought Tommy Hurons.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Tommy Hurons fought Roberto Durr. They fought Hagler. They fought Iran Barclay. In the 70s, the heavyweights, Norton and Frasier and Ali and, performing, those guys fought Ron Lyles. They fought. It wasn't no ducking and dodging.
Starting point is 01:06:13 I think maybe you got too many belts now. Because everybody's like, well, I got the IBF belt, then my belt is more valuable than WBO and the WBA and the WBA and the IB, and the ring magazine. Nobody wants to fight. Everybody wants to end their record undefeated. And unfortunately, you think ending your record ending your career undefeated is going to put you in front of some of these other, but you're going to be very, very disappointed
Starting point is 01:06:37 when it doesn't happen. And a lot of these top fighters don't fight as frequent as those guys did back then. No, no. I think the money is much different now, Joe. I think the thing, because, you know, you make 10, 15, 20 million to fight. Guys back then weren't making that kind of money. And so you had to fight. Guys were fighting three, four times a year.
Starting point is 01:07:01 You might, at max, you might have got to give them. a guy fighting in March or April, maybe May, and then fight late September early October. But at max, you're getting two fights. Max, most of the time you probably get one. And they're going to take a couple years off here. Like, because they're sitting so fat now when it comes to come to these paychecks when it come to boxing, you know, it's just a lot different now. It is.
Starting point is 01:07:30 It's very different and it is what it is. and I think that's why a lot of people have gone away from boxing because they don't see the fights that they want to feed. Imagine if Lennox Lewis and Holyfield and Riddick Bow and all those guys to raise the ruddics
Starting point is 01:07:47 and if they didn't fight. Them boy getting to it. Come on, man. How y'all in the same, how y'all in the same era and y'all don't never cross paths? That's not possible. Man, y'all have been seeing James Winston. That dude's been a real dual star,
Starting point is 01:08:14 hosting the World Cup on Fox. I have not, but I know he is a character. You know, I've seen him, you know, in the huddle and saying certain things and in the warm-ups. Yeah, he definitely has a media career. Oh, yeah, yeah, more time. They're going to hold him up. I can see that now.
Starting point is 01:08:33 I can see that now. Hey, guys, welcome to Priceland, aka Minnesota, Joe. If you're looking for a great restaurant, go to my high school classmates, Italian restaurant, Dario, in the North Loop in Minneapolis. Let me write that down, Dario. That's Lainey Ray. She's a Minnesota native. That's right here.
Starting point is 01:08:58 That's right down the street from us. Eight minutes from me. All right, I'm going to go check them out. You like Italian? Yeah. You don't like Italian food one? You don't care for it? You're a soul food, brother.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Man, I grew up on Sheport, spaghetti meatballs in the can. So, I'm good. And chopped up hot dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm trying to think when the last time I had lasagna, I don't know, probably 15 years.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Spaghetti, probably just as long. I mean, when Shelley comes out here and she goes to this Italian place and she'll just get, like, you know, they have these, she'll get spaghetti meatballs, but they have these meatballs made with, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:50 And they're probably about the size of a, they're probably about the size of a few. I already know it. Ooh. Oh, in your prime, would you rather fight A, John Jones in a cage match or B, you can only do number two in a porty party at a construction site for a week's dream? Damn. Which one you pick it? You're probably going to pick that porta potty. You better leave John Jones as alone.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Hey, let me go. I'll go ahead and choke me out. You're going to get choked out. You're going to let him choked your out versus you and that porta potty. Yep. Yep. That man said a porta party on the construction site. Man, you know how many of the asses that bit on that porta potty?
Starting point is 01:10:38 It's hot. Oh, no. I'm going to check number two. It's all right. Oh, shit. Architect Nights TV. Happy June team. Happy June team.
Starting point is 01:10:53 June team. Questions, what do the Nuggets and the Sixers need to do to get back in playoff contention? Would there be a live nightcap episode of the NBA draft? Yes. Check out Ocho's podcast, the late run, go team USA. I think for the Sixers, maybe you do have to get off MB and go get you and try to find somewhere where you can get some draft capital back, whether you can get a all-star caliber player back.
Starting point is 01:11:22 because when I watched him play, obviously the injury's hurting, but it's just so stagnant offensively when he's out there. The ball doesn't move. It sticks a lot. And it's hard for guys like Edge coming maxi to be in rhythm. You know, when I've watched him play, obviously in the postseason. So I think he still has some great value in him. I think he just needs to go to a different situation, bro. Who was the other team that you asked about?
Starting point is 01:11:51 The Nuggets. The Nuggets. I think the Nuggets need to stay healthy. I think if Aaron Gordon can stay healthy because remember they took OKC two years ago to a game seven and Gordon was hurt. This year, Gordon was hurt. I think he is.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Watson. Ain't this Gordon country? Don't he get paid this summer? I think they can. They can do it. Is he up or does he have one year left? Aaron Gordon. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Because boy, Jay McDow. Daniel had Jamal Murray in a straight jacket. You know, that's just a tough matchup for, that was a tough matchup. Oh, his deal starts this year. Well, he already owned a new deal. So how much he, what do you get? He got three years 103.
Starting point is 01:12:47 So basically almost 35 a year. Yeah, if he can stay healthy, man, they'll be all right. And you get that Watson kid, get him taken care of. Health plays a major role. Because I think they probably try to move on from Kristen Brown. Yeah, I think so too. I don't think he didn't give them what they probably anticipated. No.
Starting point is 01:13:07 I mean, he played pretty good in that championship year. But once they figured him out, it was a rap. Yep. Yo, what up, Big Three. Next Friday, Unx's birthday, there's a World Cup game in H-town. Sounds like the perfect time to reunite at the devil's playground. What are we doing? What are we doing?
Starting point is 01:13:25 I know Ocho down. Hell, I ain't got to ask him. What you're thinking? Thanos. You want daddy to be home or you want daddy to be on the road? There you have to go. He said, man, you have to be that quick. We're definitely going to be on.
Starting point is 01:13:49 I'll be working on my birthday. I don't know how ads playing that, but I'm working on my birthday I got the day after off. Yeah. We off on Friday? Okay. No, we off. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Yeah. Huh? 29. Were your birthday? 29, Joe. 29. I think that. We're working on yours.
Starting point is 01:14:20 It's okay. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay. So I said the same watching soccer. Every sports need a national flopper. Yeah, do, man. Like, you got to, hey, man, you got to take that flopping out of the sports.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Because, look, when I'm sitting here watching the soccer games, hell, I don't know if a dude really hurt or not when he's laying down now. I'm like, damn. They play they have some good acting jobs out there now Who's a greater coach Phil Jackson or Greg Popovich? I'm probably going to go Popovich. I think Phil, Phil, he had arguably, hell, he had the best damn... He had four to ten greatest players never play.
Starting point is 01:15:06 At least three, excuse me, three of the greatest... You could say Phil Jackson coached three of the greatest ten players to ever play in the NBA. Yeah, and... And I think Pop only had... Pop had a head. You take it from a guy who then played against Pop in a couple playout series. Hey, man, he wanted the best to do it, bro. He wanted the best ever do it.
Starting point is 01:15:33 A T.S. Car Watch Detail Service. Ha-ha Dad, hiding in the attic was sad. Yeah, that was, bro. Damn. And you don't know if he's embarrassed, you know. You don't. It's easy to stand and judge someone else's. judge someone else from your own yard where you don't know what's actually going on inside
Starting point is 01:15:59 their home. And then a lot of times when I, you know, for me is that when I sit across from someone, I'm just, I'm just listening. I'm not judging them. I don't know their situation. I don't know that man's situation. I don't know. I don't know the trauma that he's had in his life.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Because a lot of time, Joe, if you don't hear from the trauma that you've suffered, you'll bleed on someone even though they didn't cut you. Hello. And that happens a lot. You mask it, you just deal with it, you suppress it. And unbeknownst to you, you're doing a lot of the same thing that you had done to you. Yeah. Hey, man, when I heard that man say, he said his dad, he said he talked to him through the door.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Through the door, yeah. Yeah, that's cold-blooded, though. Oh, what was it like having to deal with D.T. and Neil Smith twice a year. It was hell. It was hell. Because Kansas City back then, there were no more defense. They had Neil and D.T. on one side. They had Joe, Dan Salamua, Big Joe Phillips.
Starting point is 01:17:20 They had at first, they had Albert Lewis and Kevin Ross, and then they got D.C. and James Hasty. Early, they had DeRond Cherry. They were defensive. They were loaded. They were loaded. that stadium, y'all know the stadium loudest, one of the loudest stadiums in the NFL. And boy, when that thing was ratcheted up, man.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Then Neil came and joined us. Please consider the following. And our IRS stream at a buffet, a buffet, please, this would heal the country. If you streamed at a buffet? Oh, man, listen. I think, no, no, no, no, no. I'm trying to think who does a buffet. I think there's a place called country buffet.
Starting point is 01:18:20 I think they might still be in existence. There used to be one on Beaufort Highway. There's got to be some buffets still around somewhere on. Chad, is there any famous buffets that we're missing? I try to do away from the buffet because people just let their kids go up there and be playing all in the food and the ice cream and the guy. I already know what you're talking about. So, so I, I've kind of, I've kind of, old country, that might be the name of Old Country Buffet. And you go up there, man, and touch the towel on every cookie up there.
Starting point is 01:18:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they grab it in the chicken with the house. I said, nah. Oh, huh? Or Old Country buffet is still open? Go to Corral of the buffet? Yeah, I think so. I, I've never been. Mm.
Starting point is 01:19:16 I ain't no Golden Corral was a buffet. Yeah. $150 for a buffet? That's how much a buffet cost now? And the casinos? Oh, casino. Yeah, because, Joe, they'd be having endless crab leg. They have lobster tail and shrimp and all that, so they got to get their money back.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Now, I don't eat all that. Hey, I got your little quick 20-25. Give me a couple pieces of fried chicken, a couple of fried steaks, a pork chop, and some mac and cheese and macfaxies. I'm going to say, my head down. Hey, them casino. Ain't no way I can eat $150. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Them casino got the mean scheme going, boy. Yeah, I can't eat. I can't eat that kind of food like that. I know, I think the wind has a buffet that. Oh, they got some. That's typically where I stay when I go to Vegas. Boy, they got some good. Oh, the win?
Starting point is 01:20:13 Okay. Where do you stay? He said, I live in my, he said, I live in my pen. That concludes this episode of 9. We want to thank you guys for tuning in. As you watch the USA, they're going to advance thanks to a two-way win over Australia. They play very, very well. They're plus five in the gold margin.
Starting point is 01:20:41 They can win the group outright. Your Paraguay draws. What if they need to win? They need to lose a draw, right? And I think they win the group outright. But USA's look good in their first two matches. They dominated. they've beaten teams that they should beat
Starting point is 01:20:59 instead of playing down to the competition and not playing as well as people who would have expected them to play. They played extremely well in these situations and we are very, very proud of the U.S. men's national team. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.
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