Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Iverson takes the high road, Marbury's HOF case, Ariana Grande's divorce

Episode Date: March 21, 2024

Shannon Sharpe & Gilbert Arenas discuss Allen Iverson's response to Brian Windhorst's comments, debate whether or not Stephon Marbury should be in the Basketball Hall of Fame and much much more! 0:00 Brian Windhorst says Iverson wouldn’t be as good in this era3:00 Isiah Thomas says Stephon Marbury should be in the Hall of Fame -12:00 Ariana Grande to pay ex husband $1.25M in divorce17:40 Q and Ayyyyy24:45 Gil tells story about Saucy Santana28:00 Favorite March Madness teams/moments41:00 Unc talks about eating raccoon, quail, gator and other strange foods #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair.

The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Alan Iver, who responds to Brian Windhorst, saying he wouldn't be as good in today's NBA. Wendy said AI wouldn't be able to average 43 points in today's NBA and the NBA world came to the defense. Carmelo Anthony says, he tweeted, they will always find a way

to discredit. Stay me 7-0. Rob Strickland, please understand the difference between basketball knowledge and entertainment. Why are people giving so much time to non-basketball people? AI would be AI in any era. Would he take

as many shots? Maybe, maybe not. But we also have to look at his skill set and obviously what kind of impact he would have in today's game. Rip Hamilton said, this has to be a joke. Please stop the buffoonery. AI would have been AI and got that in any GD era. Hold that. AI would have been AI and got an idiot GD

era. Hold that. AI said, that's his opinion. I mean, I'm not mad at the man. That's what he thinks of. That's the way he that's the way you think. I'm not mad at him. God bless him. There's no way I'm going to bash him or be mad or criticize him for the way he thinks.

Like, you can't be mad at somebody because they don't agree with you. It is what it is. Do you like AI taking the high road? Yeah. I mean, you know, at the end of the day, what's the point of arguing over what ifs

in theory, right? Yeah, true. This whole debate has nothing to do with actual facts right we're sitting here going and we're talking about facts and this and but it's no fact because we can't prove it we can't prove it so we're arguing just to argue for the most part um great players find a way to be great no No matter what the era is, they're going to adapt. You know, especially if you are one of those really gifted type of players,

which Allen Iverson was right. So the game, the game is different. The game is more open for him to get through it. There's no, there's no big bodies in there that would be hitting on him the whole time. And he got to, you know what I mean?

So he's going to be at the rim a lot uh a lot i mean so you know of course of course he's gonna say i win the average just you know just to keep you know the argument you know from going wherever it's gonna go right what he has is the players who played with him defended. That's all he cares about. The guys who played against me, they had to guard me. They knew what type of problem I was. If they say I'm averaging 40, then I don't need to argue with you.

Right. That's true. So true. Isaiah Thomas believed that next legend, Stefan Marbury should be in the Hall of Fame Zeke said let me say this about Stefan Marbury right I'm speaking as a Hall of Famer Stefan Marbury should be in the Hall of Fame he's impacted basketball in the United States of America but then he goes over to China and he's impacted the basketball basketball in China as a superstar in Chinese Basketball Association,

he secured three championships, finals MVP, three-time All-Star selection while becoming an instant celebrity and a major influence in the country's basketball scene. Should Stephon Marbury be a Hall of Famer?

Yes. You know, the quick answer is yes. I don't know why he's not in it by now. yes you know quick answers yes I don't know why he's not in it by now you know Hall of Fame

is it's what you they take it for college they take it for college NBA

if you played in the Olympics if you played they take all that into account right I don't know why right

I don't know because they don't do it for it in football and? I don't know why, right? I don't know. Because they don't do it for it. In football and baseball, they don't say, well, Sheldon, you know what? You had some outstanding numbers in college, so we're going to bring those numbers into the NFL. They're like, no, what did you do in the NFL? Yeah, what did you do in the NFL? So, you know, what he did in the NBA is Hall of Fame type of numbers.

Yeah, he didn't have team success, but I didn't know the Hall of Fame was about team success. I thought it was about... Well, how many All-Star games did he go to? Right? How many All-NBA teams did he make? Come on, Gil.

Y'all putting people in the Hall of Fame for that? Well, hold on. Hold on. You got to think about what coach he was on and who was behind. Who was behind? I mean, you're talking about a guy who's averaging, you know, 20 and 9, 20 and 8. He was called the ball hog averaging 8 assists. 8 and 9 assists a game.

He was considered a ball hog with 8.9, eight assists, nine assists, right? For his career, he was considered a ball hog. 19 and seven. Played 11, 12, 14 years. Like, I'm... Hold on, he played 14 years in the NBA? Yeah, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, yeah. And what was his averages?

His average is 19, 7. 19 and 7. I don't know. I don't know if he can put somebody to heart. 16. The best. 16,000 points.

Hold on. Let me see somebody. Hold on. With two All-Stars, the two All-Star, two All-NBA, do you think you should go in the Pro Basketball Hall of Fame? You know, they got people who got 5,000 points,

5,000 rebounds in the top 75, and we just want to throw that out there. Well, yeah, I'm talking about, okay, the guy played in the 60s. I mean, the Leafs scored the NBA average 12 points. I just want to say, you know what I mean? So we can't look at the numbers as the numbers, but I mean...

But we got to, no, no, we got to look, we got, no, you can't judge him based on that era. Put him in the era in which he played. Based on the era in which he played. Girl, I mean, that's a stretch, man. Damn, and I'm flexible. I mean, 16,000 points. I mean, 16,000 points to all-stars, to all-NBAs, right?

I can see why it's going to take a little bit longer. But you got to remember, what are the players saying? See, this game is not – we're viewing it from the outside of guys who never had the guard or never played it, never schemed against them, right? Right? from the outside of guys who never had the guard or never played and never schemed against him, right? Yeah, there might have been a guy that shut me down in a game that only had two or three catchers. I don't think we should put his ass in the Pro Football

Hall of Fame. No, no, no. But there's got, like, T.O., right? Was he first ballot? No. No, was he supposed to be? Yes. Right? 100% of every football

player agreed he's first ballot. The writers says otherwise. Put it up. We're going to put it in. The writers say otherwise. You see how there's just this big gap between the people Stefan, we're going to put it in. We're going to make that a goal. The writers say otherwise, right?

You see how there's just this big gap between the people who played against him, the people who watched him during his preparation. They have two different agendas. So for the most part, you're not going to find many players that say he shouldn't be one. Right? I mean, you know what I mean? Yeah, his stats and his accolades the all stars most of it was popularity

for the most part you wouldn't say he wasn't a Hall of Fame guard like I can't like even without looking at him when you said him like yeah he's Hall of Fame I I you know when it comes to talent, there's some weaker.

Listen, this is how I look at it. He was he was a main guy for most of his career. There's glorified option threes and option twos in the Hall of Fame. Never had responsibility as a number one player. And they are Hall of Famers. Could I ask you a question? responsibility as a number one player and they are hall of famers could ask your question do you believe stephan marbury in the history of the game in the same seven year history is a top 10 point guard on all the point guards is he talking when what as a point overall ever no no not ever

top 15 No, no, no, not ever. Top 15. Okay, we're going to move on. We already had answers. Thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate that, Gil. Thanks for clarifying that for me. Your daughter's has them.

There's guys who's top 25 in the Hall of Fame, though. We going to put it up. We gonna find out. Your daughter's haslam clarifies his comment about Chris Bosh being the most important player of the Big Heat. Instead of walking back his comments, he doubled down and then explained why the fans didn't really understand what he was trying to say.

LeBron was the best player on the team, the best player on the planet. The most important on our team was Chris Bosh because of the matchups he created. A lot of times when Bron and D-Wade needed to get into the paint, they were attacking the paint. Now when you have a guy like Chris Bosh

to face the floor, he gets five men away from the basket and just allows Bron and Wade to be the very best version. That makes sense. Yes. I don't think people sometimes understand how to separate... The very best version. That makes sense. Yes. I don't think people sometimes understand how to separate important for the whole team and the best player ever. There is a difference. take Bosch off the court and you put a traditional power forward or whatever there,

it will make it harder for Dwyane Wade and LeBron James to ride the lane and be who they're going to be. Right? So, if someone said, Kevin Love was very, very important

to those Cavs championships, we will understand. Yeah, because he can shoot the ball, he can post up, he can keep the full spread for Kyrie and LeBron to get inside that lane. That's what he's saying. He's not saying he was better than LeBron. There's not even close. But for everybody else to eat,

besides LeBron James, we needed him because he spread the floor open for us to get in there, for me to post up, for me to do all these other things. Right. It's a team thing. Yes. Yeah. I understand. I mean, like, like Bosch was a guy that could shoot the three.

Obviously he had to guard the five, you know, he had to deal with Roy Hibbert, but what he was able to do that if Roy didn't bring his seven foot ass out of that paint, Chris Bosh was going to make the mid-range shot, and he could hit the three. And you needed Bosh because Danny Green about to get that shot off. Not a whole lot

of guys could have got to that shot like CB did. I just wish those blood cards, man. I would have loved to see what his career could have actually been had it not been cut short. Yeah, we always like that.

That's the only thing I wish for athletes, man, that everyone gets to live out their career so we can see who was really the best ever. But for the most part, that's not how life works. And the fortunate ones that are meant to be at the top are there.

Right. Ariana Grande had to pay her ex-husband $1.250, so $1.25 in a divorce settlement. Ariana Grande will make one-time payment of $1.250. So $1.25 in a divorce settlement. Ariana Grande will make one-time payment of $1.25 million to her ex-husband Dalton Gomez under their divorce

agreement. Damn, he'll have been a minister. I mean... Oh my God. The city boy. Oh, the city boy. $5,000. We up $5,000. I can't sit here. I'm sorry for you. 5,000. We up 5,000. I can't see it.

I'm sorry for you. I'm wishing I had one like that. You know, I often, you know what, Gil, I often think, and I've had this conversation with myself. Had I ever been, if I had gotten married to someone that was better off than I was, would I get alimony or would I? I don't know. I don't know if I could do it. Yep. Yes.

I don't think I could. I don't think I could do it, Gil. I couldn't. Right now, if I marry Oprah right now, she sneezes wrong, we're going to court. Come on, Gil. Stall it out, man.

I'm out of here. I'm hoping woman empowerment hits her. I hope it hits her during our argument. I hope she do. You won't bring nothing to the table. I hope

she do that so I can be in court counting that cheddar. I couldn't do it. I don't think I could do it. My pride wouldn't let me take it. Hey, look, whatever. My pride had me marrying that type of

woman, okay? Sometimes you're married for looks, sometimes you're married for money. In that case, it was for money. Yeah. Hey, it's just as easy to marry a rich person than it is a poor one. So if I was you, if I'm going to get married,

I'm going to get the one with some bread. 1.3 million. That's a nice little lick. He didn't even do it right. He's supposed to have a kid, too. Ah, come on, Gil. Yeah. You got to play that game right back.

I mean, look, she an entertainer. She ain't trying to get locked down like that because she know that's going to put her up. You got a Britney Spears-er. You got a Britney Spears-er. You got a Kevin Federlein-er. Oh, man, listen. Nah, Gil, man.

Let that woman be, man. I love to see it. Like, I hate that, like, someone gets taken for the money, right, when it comes to love. But because it's done to the man all the time, when it went the other way, it's a losing proposition for us. I know Ariana feels like all the men out there now. Yeah.

Uh-huh. That's it. You feel just like one of us. Yeah, man. I'm about to hit her to you. Hey, how you doing, Ms. Grande? I think she dated somebody already, Gil. You might be a little late.

You might be a little late, Gil. I can only imagine when you're dating someone who has a lot of money and you live in a good lifestyle, but if you leave,

you get millions, you get to touch yourself versus being in the house asking for shit, getting shit here and there. Like, I'm sorry, I don't know. I don't know if I, I don't know how many arguments

I can have, how many times she can big board me, how many, how many umbrellas I can carry around, you know? Yeah, I mean, first of all,

I think it takes a, it takes a, a special type of a man to be with someone unless you're like there right there with her but to know that okay she's the main she's the breadwinner

probably tough cause a man yeah cause I think men by nature like we want to be leaders we want to be the man of the house the head of the house. I don't know how it was, but that's why we were brought up in my home. You know, you be the head of the house. You protect the house.

You protect the family. You make sure everything is secure at home. Now for the roles are reversed. Now you home taking care of the kids if they are kids. You, you know, running the errands. You in the carpool lane uh you picking up dry cleaners i don't know if i want to be if i need to be a leader that man listen i'm dating oprah i'm getting all this money being here being a housewife i can lead

my squad on call of duty if i need that type of manship. When I'm on that video game, I can be the man and the leader of the team at that point. Other than that, I'm not messing up this good thing trying to prove no point. A broke leader has no power. I'm Michael

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Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.

The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Gil, it's time for our last segment of the day. It's called Q&A. And a... DBZ said, Shannon doesn't like people gossiping about him, but he has no problem throwing dirt on others, people to protect Vanessa Bryant. Did I miss something?

Her Wi-Fi was probably, probably the Wi-Fi was messed up, so she probably got missing, missing some of the conversation. Okay, Shannon doesn't like people gossiping about him, but he has no problem throwing dirt on others. People like to protect Vanessa Bryant? Is that what she meant to say? Probably.

Okay. Hey, uh, uh, his parents, oh, oh, oh, how am I throwing, look, all I'm saying, I'm like, well, first of all, I didn't, it's not a protect, because I don't know enough about Vanessa to try to protect her.

All I'm saying is, I still think it's wrong that they're selling his ish. That's his. Okay, fine. I get it. You're struggling. But let me ask you a question. What would you have done

if your son wasn't Kobe Bryant? If your son wasn't Kobe Bryant, you wouldn't be having a ring to sell anyway for $90,000. But would you have sold his memorabilia? It wouldn't be worth nothing to sell. So

my thing is, Gil, you know, like I said, a lot of times people are like, hey, no, I'm good with this house that I got. Let's just make some modifications to it. We good. We good right here, son. I just, no, I'm good with this house that I got. Let's just make some modifications to it. We good. We good right here, son. Look, I don't

agree with selling this stuff. I ain't bashing them. I just don't like the fact that they're selling their sons. How's that gossip? It's in the paper that they're selling his ring. What's in the paper? Listen, if my daddy right now

decided to sell my jerseys online I'ma tell him boy you gonna lose money cause you gonna have to ship it you gonna have to ship that you know what I mean $100 for the jersey you done spent $200 to ship it there

next you done lost bad investment brother I couldn't I mean obviously the stuff that me and my brother have now they probably be worth a little something because you know I'm in the hall of fame and got a got a little celebrity right now but

that stuff, I mean, well, my girlfriend, one of my girlfriends had some trophies, but I think the house accidentally caught fire. They got burned up in that. So I don't think anybody has anything that outside of, you know, stuff that I signed, like my homeboys, like guys I played with.

Like Burns and Bucket probably got the most stuff because they actually have game-worn jerseys that I actually wore in the game that I autographed them or shoes that I, I mean, some of my teammates

got shoes and I think one of my teammates ended up selling the shoes. It is what it is. That's it. But not my, not family though, not family.

If Burns or Bucket were to sell something that I gave them, I'd be pissed. I'd be hurt. I just want to know before they decided to send it to auction, did they reach out to Vanessa? They ain't got Vanessa, no.

Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. If you're reaching out and saying, we're down on our luck right now and we don't want to sell this stuff we'll rather it go to the kids right this is their father's stuff yeah I'll buy back can you can you at least buy I would buy knowing her hell

no get on no yeah I would definitely I would definitely buy it back because it belongs to my husband it don't belong in anybody else's hand if it wasn't

an autograph or he didn't personally give it because now it's coming through a third party I would buy it back and probably I'm sure one day they'll probably have a museum probably with the Lakers with all his stuff in there because

when I'm done a lot of my stuff is going to go to Savannah State like my Hall of Fame bus and the gold jacket it's not going to my kids it's going to go to Savannah State I think that's I think they would do a better now can they put it on display I don't know State. I think that's I think they would do it better. Now, can they put it on display?

I don't know. Probably worried about somebody taking it, stealing it. So, but nah, I just but DBZ, I don't really think I'm gossiping. I ain't trying to protect nobody because I got no dog in the fight. We're having, you know, sometimes we're having a conversation.

I mean, Vanessa didn't say anything. I'm not taking her side. I'm not interviewing the parents. I'm not taking their side. Gil and I are having a conversation. Gil said he understands the parent. I just don't I can't get down with them selling Kobe's stuff. If that's gossiping, I'm gossiping.

Angelina Marie said it's not gossiping, it's commentary about a widely known public family breakdown. You know what, Gil? I mean, and you're going to find this out. As your podcast starts to grow and more and more people, you start getting more and more views and people start talking about it's going to be people that you like. But damn, I thought I was cool. I ain't say we hung over each other house. But that's what I that's that's what I started to see. That's what I'm starting to see. And, you know, people started, you know,

take little pot shots here and there. But they ain't mad yet. They ain't mad yet. No. But you're going to be mad. Oh, I got some stuff coming. You're going to be mad. Oh, boy, are you going to be mad.

No, no, no. Animals get mad. Humans get up. Animals get mad. Oh boy, are you going to be mad? No, no, no. Animals get mad. Humans get upset. They're about to be really upset. Well, if you're the president, just... President of what? White House clearance, huh? No, no, no, no, no.

I want no part of that. All those had it, gun situation, knocked it out. Like, God damn it, almost got the Obama. Libra Vibe said his parents were selling ish while he was alive. So don't make this about Vanessa. They were. They were getting up off that stuff. That's funny.

A.E. said, Gil, can you offer some clarification about Saucer Santana comment? You know what's funny? No one has a sense of humor. So what, okay, what did, I don't even know how to start. So fill me in. I don't even know how to start so so fill me in feel us and feel my

i don't know how much of my how much of my audience know about what's going on so how what happened and how did it get okay so uh nick young came on my podcast right you know he said he just finished college hill so i was like oh college hill who was on and he was like um he said black china and he was like yeah you, college hill, who was on? And he was like, he said, Black China. And he was like, yeah, you know, every man wanted to be with Black China. So I'm like, oh, you got with Black China? He was like, nah. And then he was like, oh, also there was Saucy Santana.

I was like, who was that? And then he was like, oh, yeah, you know, cool dude. Boom, boom, boom. I was like, Saucy Santana? So I'm getting ready to look it up. He's like, no, no, no, don't look it up. Because I know you're going to start making So I'm getting ready to look it up. He's like, no, no, no, don't look it up, because I know you're going to start making jokes, right?

So I looked it up. Hit the video. It's a dude with nails and a beard twerking. Right. So I'm watching the twerking, and I'm like, nah, dog, this you. I know you

paid for this, right? Joking with him. I called Saucy in that, right? You know, and then he got upset. He commented back and then I came

in, Nick went and did our own thing again on Sunday and I said, when the lights is off with the BBL he has, you can't tell the difference between him and Megan to stop. Oh, Lord have mercy. I couldn't help myself. Nick tried to save you. No, like, listen, listen, listen.

Usually, usually I'm supposed to get canceled, but the fact that they think I was really serious and they're not canceling me, I'll take it. What? I'll take it. You know, they canceled me. I wouldn't have been here Wednesday. No, I'm good.

I mean, you know. Listen, I'm sorry, but I came from... Man, you know, hey, ain't he the guy that wanted to... He said he was going to pull up on DJ Academics. See, I didn't know who the person was. But I just know, just for me and my comedy experience in life, a beard, a BBL, nails. Nails. Nails. experience in life. A beard, a BBL, nails,

nails, nails and men parts. I don't know how you don't laugh. So I couldn't help. I couldn't help myself. So I'm sorry. I couldn't. Man,

Gil, man, you know guys, they double F, man. They don't play, man. You know, we had them jokes, man. somebody was like well as a as a straight man you can't say that why I'm straight I can say whatever I want if I'm straight I don't give a shit what I care for like 99% of me is comedy so I look at everything in common like I can't help it if you got to say pause between every other word

that sounds remotely gay in your mind. I don't have it. Samuel Griffith. We're going to move on from Saucer Santana. We don't want him to pull up on you. Samuel Griffith said, Nightcap is the best.

Do you guys have an all-time favorite March Madness team? I'll always love the St. Joe's team with Delonte West and Jameer Nelson. I fell in love with Carolina, North Carolina. Actually, the year before Michael Jordan hit the shot in 81. Because the year before,

they had lost the national championship to Indiana in 81. That was Isaiah Thomas team. Randy Whitman, Rolando Turner, who ended up with a tragic car accident, ended up becoming paralyzed. That was also, if I'm not mistaken, that same day there was an assassination on President Ronald Reagan's life. I think John Hinckley shot President Reagan, if I'm not mistaken. That was 1981. And so that's when I fell in love with North Carolina. But so I've been a Blue Devil fan since then.

So I don't know. I mean, there have been some crushing moments. I remember in 83 when Houston and Wittenberg, Wittenberg, yeah, Derek Wittenberg shot that shot and Lorenzo Charles dunked it in. And then you go fast forward all these years, Villanova hit that shot at the buzzer to beat North Carolina. So I don't know if I really have a favorite margin manager's team.

I just root for Carolina. Yeah, mine, the first glimpse of the tournament was when Chris Webber and the Fab Five. You know, the way that that swag that they had, all the kids used to talk about it in school. So, you know, that was the first glimpse of college basketball. But I didn't really, like, understand what a tournament was until I was in it. Okay. And, you know.

So what's it like? You can explain it to us, Dick, because you've been there. I've never. We were so locked in. We was really locked in. We knew we was one or two of the best teams in the country. We were number one fighting with Cincinnati until we got hurt the year before.

So I remember in tournament time, we made a pledge to each other that we can't have sex until the tournament's over with. Who did that? Who said that? One of our teammates. Trust me, we asked, can we get some head? Can we jack off? You know what I mean? But for the most part, no. Right? Just go through.

Y'all going too far with that. Yeah, we was partiers. We partied. So, you know, it was like, yo, this is what we want to do. We want to win a championship. So we all, for the most part, stuck to those guns. And it was a blast.

For the most part, it was pretty easy. We beat Michigan State by 20 in the Final Four. I ended up getting hurt in the Final Four. Soft tissue tear in my chest on the shooting side. So that kind of limited me from shooting.

But it was an experience. It was really an experience. I mean, you know, after each round going back home, being celebrated, you know, if everyone who's ever played college ball can really experience, you know, the NCAA, that's an experience that, you know, as a basketball player, you need to really be a part of. Because it's one game.

You have to be on. You have to be on. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. You go home. Yeah. And I think that's what that's probably the second biggest bad event other than the Super Bowl is probably March Madness. I would think.

Probably, yeah. Excuse me. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy says, hey, Uncle Gil, Dawn Staley is an amazing coach. Do you think she can coach an NBA team? If yes, what do you think could use her? Who do you think could use her expertise? Do you think we'll ever see a woman coaching the NBA team? No.

No. Why not? Do you know the names we call the man coaches? Yeah. Yeah. You definitely have to bite your tongue. And she got to wait 15, 20 minutes for the guy to get dressed.

Think about players who don't want to be subbed out of the game and stuff like that. Most of the coaches in the NBA besides Pop and, I don't know, Rick Carlisle, maybe, that has enough power to not be pushed out by the star player. Other than that, if the star player don't like you, the rest don't like you.

We talk to these coaches grind. Because you can't do nothing. We make more than you. Shut up. Right. Right? When you see players get out and he's sitting there arguing with the coach, what happens if that's a female? That looks bad for TV

itself. It's not about the ability of the coach. That is not the bearing here. It's the nature. It's the nature of who these people are and what happens in a heated moment. Let's take somebody like Draymond Green, how he talks to the other players, how he talks to Steph Curry sometimes.

Do you, Kirk? One minute, one slap that hand or say something is blown out of proportion. So just logistically, you know, for the eye, the eye test is not going to happen. Okay. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core.

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that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General... It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane,

I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Kemper, Kemper Knowit Jr. said, my question is, do you see the 76ers winning a title with the team that they currently have within the next two to three seasons? Yeah, and 2K, so that'll be 2K28. 27. Yeah, they'll win one. You know, you do my player.

You pick the 76ers. You go all the way through the season and win one. Yeah, that's the only way 76ers are going to win a championship. They're not winning one in the actual NBA in real life. No, no. Joel Embiid is unstoppable. I love Tyrese Maxey. But Joel Embiid is hurt every other season.

He's missing a significant amount of time. And now guess what, Gil? He's getting older. Tell me the person that gets healthier as they age. You know what Joel Embiid's problem is? It's probably the same problem Shaq had. They're so naturally gifted than everybody else that they don't need to do the little things

to prepare them for the game, right? Like, Joel, the body, his body is the most important thing to him. You're eating five McDonald's hamburgers before the game. You have wings stopping. You're doing this pre-game and after games. That's not the type of food you're supposed to be eating. No.

And because that is how he eats today, his body is never going to be that temple that he needs to carry him over 20 years. He eats like he's a guard and he eats like he doesn't have this weight problem. Same thing with somebody like Zion.

Certain type of people, your body is what's going to keep you from greatness, not your skill. Your your body is what's going to keep you from greatness. It's not your skill, right? Your body itself is what's going to take you to the next level, right? The skill, you're above everyone. You have to really dive into stretching, making sure your weight, making sure you're eating right, you're sleeping right.

That's going to be Joel Embiid's next jump. When he does that, that's when Philly's going to have a chance. As long as he's doing what he's doing, no, because his body is going to break down. Yeah, that's the thing, is that when you look at Gil, is that as we age, we gain weight naturally. And as we get older, it gets harder and harder to maintain a level of fitness. So you have to work out harder, eat better, or you have to do both.

He's a big man. It's already hard for big. I mean, if you look at the big guys that play long, they were thin. Look at Kareem. You're right. Look at Robert Parrish. Look at Kevin Willis. Look at Dirk Nowitzki.

They weren't shy. They're not going to be Joel Embiid. And it's unfortunately that maybe, maybe the thing about what Zion has on his side is that he's like 20 I think Zion's what 23? 24? And he's like okay you know what? Yeah. He's like you know what?

I can turn this thing around. Should have did it earlier but I got it now. Because he realizes that bro I can't eat like Alvarado. I can't eat like Alvarado. I can't eat like B.I. B.I. can eat 10 Big Macs. It's going to be 174 pounds.

You know what I'm saying? I was on guys. I mean, I had teammates. Guys, I mean, you watch the way he eat and dude still had he was like 255 six percent body fat and and that that that is a real thing man like so you know in the locker room like some people can eat that stuff some people can't no i can if you're 300 pounds you can't eat anything you want i don't give a damn i don't give a damn what kind of – especially basketball,

because that's a big man. Yeah, no, they say – I mean, don't – They said after games, he'll have bags of burgers. He'll eat that before the game, right? That's not the kind of fuel that you need to be putting in that type of body right now. JT said, what's up, Unc and Gil?

France says they plan to start Victor Wiminyama, Joel Embiid. First of all, Joel Embiid's playing for the USA, but anyway,

okay, Rudy Gobert for the 2024 Paris Olympics. Would they have, oh, would they have one goal and Embiid didn't take the easy path

to play for? Bro, why y'all want to, Joel Embiid spent two days in France. Now y'all want him... Joel and B spent two days in France. Now y'all want him to be... The man... Everything the man got,

basically, the wealth that he accumulated, his wife, his kids, America. His game, his skill, his talent, America. You know what happens with... This is what happens with international Olympic time, right? Like, even somebody like Shane murray they were trained here they are high schools and all that was here ben simmons that they're here so they can play for the usa team right what happened is when they

don't make those teams they have the ability to the country team or where their parents is from and still get that USA experience. Right? But why would Joel Embiid go to the Paris team or go to the Moroccan team to get their ass whooped when he's good enough to be the

starting center on a USA team? But think about it. Think about the names they just said. You got Wimby, five. Drollenby, five. And Rudy Gobert, five. Right? You got three fives.

You're going to start all three fives, man. I mean, yeah, you got a hell of a lineup in the back of you playing zone, but come on. You know what? That is a basketball line. That's some shit I'll try. All right. I'll put Wimby at the guard

and play a 2-3 zone. I'll play a 2-3 zone. I'll put Rudy and Rudy Gobert and Wimby at the guards. Good luck getting the 3-0. Now, you're probably going to get a round, and once you get a round, you got to hold free, but Joel Embiid is at the guards. Good luck getting the three off. Now, you're probably going to get a ride, and once you get a ride,

you got a home free, but Joel Embiid is in the back. But Joel Embiid's playing for the U.S. Stephanie Warfield said, Gil and Shannon, I think it's commendable that you support each other's podcast. Gil, do you plan to invite Shannon

on one of your No Chill Gil episodes? Maybe you can make grill raccoon. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, relax. No chill on the grill. Oh, so you want to start a new podcast. No chill on the grill episode. Listen, I thought you were talking about no chill.

I was like, your brain can't go. Your brain can't go. Right. On the like, oh, your brain can't go. Your brain can't go. Right. On the grill, I might be him. And I started Googling squirrel, alligator, snake. And guess what?

They got recipes for them. They be selling that for real. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sitting here like, I was like, I'm tripping. No, I seen dudes, they cooking camel. So, yeah, I'm going to grill that up.

I got to taste it. I got to see what it is. You got to know what you're doing. You don't know what you're doing, Gil. No. Because first of all, first of all, squirrel, you either smother fire

or you fry it. So you have gravy and rice or you fry it. So you have gravy and rice or you fry it. Raccoon, you bake it. Alligator, you fry it. So you put raccoon in aluminum foil, put bell pepper, you put onions, you put stuff like that in it, you cut him up

and you put him in a pan, aluminum foil, you put it in an oven and you leave him in there for about, you know, you know how we do it. Put them on Sri Hunter. I was just going to put them on a grill, fire them up, cut them up, make them look like chicken. Call it chicken. Well, they're going to know it's too...

It's red. They're going to know it's not chicken. It's too red to be chicken. Red chicken, huh? It's too red to be chicken. Red chicken, huh? It's true. But, you know, you get some celery, some bell peppers, some onions. You cut that joke up, put them on trees,

350, sit them in that oven. I'm going to get a box of wild, it's like wild boy. I seen some quail in there. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I love quail. Actually, I go to a distance restaurant at the Golden Nugget that every time I go, that's the only thing I get.

They know, hey, Mr. Sharp, would you like the quail tonight? Yeah, let me get two of them. It's already cooked or you just buying it? No, no, no, they cook it. They cook it. I get the barbecue. Barbecue quail. Okay, okay. Yeah. Oh, it's, it's, uh, yeah, you, like I said, it's it's uh, yeah,

you have been like I said, you can't you don't know what you're doing. You need to have somebody prepared for you first. I don't know. You wouldn't find somebody you probably need to go. You ain't got no relative down south like in Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas. Somebody that know how to cook it. Lord, I like pig ears. You know, they like pig.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, I mean, you go to Papa Do's and get gator. Who? Papa Do's. They ain't got no Papa Do's out there.

Where's that at? That's in the South. So, they got them in Texas, Georgia. They got one in Colorado. But they, they, they, they, they, uh,

like alligator. Okay. Uh, but you gotta know what you're doing. You need somebody, you need somebody to cook it for you so you can taste it because you're going to F it up.

I don't got messy chicken. I burnt the steak. Burnt the steak. First day on the grill, I turned it into charcoal. Oh, so you don't know how to grill? No. Oh. Oh, so you don't know how to grill? No. Oh, my gosh.

Hey, I can grill as good as I can play basketball. I mean, football. Stephon Marbury, the final stats. Stephon Marbury, Hall of Famer, 53% said no, 46% said yes. Hey, that's close enough. Yeah, it's definitely a lot closer than I thought. It's close enough, right? Okay.

He might be one of those guys that probably get in on one of those weak, weak class, which I don't understand this. You're going to have to clarify a little bit for me. If you didn't make the Hall of Fame when you was first available, how do those same stats get in 20 years later? I ask the same question because when I came up, Gil, I said,

look, if you don't like my stats this year, you're not going to like them any better next year because I can't add to it. It's not like I had 815 and 10,000 and 60 blood of touchdowns I had. It wasn't like all of a sudden next year I was going to have 900 catches, 11,000 yards and 70 touchdowns. The number's what they are.

I did what I did. But, you know, for me, like I said, I just wanted to get in so my grandmother could know that I got in. I'd be wondering like, oh yeah, you finally got in since 76. I was like, if it wasn't good in 76,

how are they good now? People like tell me shit I don't know. I do know about Papa Doe, bro. If I don't know anything about it, how the hell you think I miss it? That was in a song, Papa Doe. Is that a strip club? No, it's a restaurant, a seafood restaurant.

Oh, it's like Papa Doe's don't... Somebody sung that in a song. Now, yeah. Papa Doe's don't make me know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, but I mean, if you love seafood, if you're ever in the South, Papados,

I mean, you go to New Orleans, you're going to get it there. I mean, but they put some everything in there. The thing that you're running with New Orleans is that they got to, because they like their food hot. I mean, I'm talking about whoo, that's good. No, bro, I can't even swallow this. Yeah, I don't like spicy food like that.

I don't either. I don't even like my food. I like my food warm. I don't like spicy food like that. I don't either. I don't even like my food. I like my food warm. I don't like my food hot. I don't like to blow my food, all that stuff. Hey, I'm going to sit and let that thing cool down a little bit so I can just eat. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Man, I ain't got time to do all that. I got a short period of time. I'm trying to get to the table, eat, and go about my business. That concludes our show for tonight. Please make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button.

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What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.

Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.