Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Ja Morant might be ruining his career, Sheuder Sanders patting the ball, & Julio Jones retires!

Episode Date: April 7, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to twitter reacting to Sheuder Sanders pro day, Julio Jones retires from the NFL & Ovechkin passes Gretzky’s NHL goal record! We also react to Mariah Carrey crashing her son’s twitch & much more!!05:00 - Ja Morant is ruining his career16:18 - Sheuder Sanders patting the ball33:46 - Coach Prime approaches NFL scout35:30 - Peyton Manning and Joe Thomas38:00 - Julio Jones retires40:45 - Alex Ovechkin passes Wayne Gretzky’s NHL goal record44:10 - Mariah Carey crashes son’s Twitch live49:36 - Man files for divorce after Usher concert1:12:46 - Q&Ayyyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Rated R. Under 17. Not admitted without parent. Kmart, the big story this week, John Moran. Spencer Haywood told TMZ that John's ruining his career. He said the people that are around him are not advising him right. He's ruining his career. He's ruining his family's lives and his team, most importantly. He's letting all of them down. So I'm just disappointed in Ja.

K-Mart, you're an elder statesman. You were the voice of reason a lot of times. Sometimes you were unreasonable in the locker room. But if you had a young guy like Ja, immensely talented, and he keeps doing this kind of stuff, what would you say to him, K-Mart? That's the honest conversation, man. For one, you got to have a rapport with

him outside of basketball. Right? That's first and foremost. You got to be able to relate to him on some level. Once you have that, you establish that. Yeah, it's...

It's being honest with him, man. But at some point, words are not enough. And in this situation, unfortunately, I'm starting to see that words and certain things don't matter. No matter who's in his locker room. I think that's why they brought Marcus Smart in, right?

Initially, to try to be that. Marcus Smart has had some hiccups. He's been feisty. He's been that in the NBA. To try to be that. but when, when your immediate surroundings and immediate family are not helping the situation, there's nothing that me as a vet can say to you because we all can do our same.

I only have you for a certain amount of time during the day, right? I'm not going to follow you home. I'm not going to hold your hand. We don't live together. We know. So we're not living in the you home. I'm not going to hold your hand. We don't live together. So we're not living in the same complex. We're not doing these things.

So I can do everything in my power, but once you leave and once you're around your guys and your family, sometimes those people have more influence than the guys who you should be looking up to

or you should be looking up to. But that influence. And unfortunately, in this situation, that's what it is. Yeah you know okay and i and when it comes to players like this players of this magnitude players that are this good uh players like this that have a certain type of individuals around them so most of the time we call them we call them yes men i mean let me just say what it is you got a bunch of dudes around you that

are not going to tell you what you want to hear and don't nobody want to get their water cut off as I call it. So I think somebody has to be an elder statesman that's part of the NBA that conducted themselves somewhat in a similar manner that John looks up to

when he was younger that played. Now, maybe they could get through to him and get him to understand, you know, the NBA is not against you. You know, there are certain things that you got in trouble for in the past, so there are certain things you can't do or you can't get away with based on past behaviors. That's all.

Yes, other players in the NBA might be doing, you know, the little gestures or whatever, but they also haven't had issues with doing anything or brandishing weaponry outside of the game of basketball. So it's different. So you held to a different standard.

You've got to understand that. Who the OG in the streets? This is what needs to happen. I don't say AI. No, I'm talking about the OG, the real OG in the streets. This is what needs to happen. I don't say AI. I don't say AI. I'm talking about the OG, the real OG in the streets of Memphis.

No, no. Y'all go to John and say, John, cut this bull jive out. See, we in these streets because we have to be. You pretending. What we do,

this real over here. But I'm trying, who is he trying to impress? Because me personally, I don't think John Hood. I don't think John bought that life. That looks good. I mean, he went in. That looked good.

I mean, the people, oh man, John not like that. I know people that are like that, that are laying down like that. But he ain't here. You work your whole life. K-Mart, you say you from Oak Cliff. You worked your whole life to get out of that environment.

Why would you get out of that environment and then try to prove that you still down? Man. No, I'm not down. That ain't me. We're not.

No, I'm not down. No, no. I live all the age. The Lord blessed me beyond blessed. He helped me get out of that situation. no, I'm not down. No, no, I love all that. Hey, the Lord blessed me beyond blessed. He helped me get out of that situation. And then I'm still going to pretend. I ain't saying you can't have no,

no firearm to protect yourself. It's the people that, it's the people that you don't think got no firearm that are set fire to you. It's one thing of having, it's one thing of people that's willing to use it. Two totally separate conversations right and the city that he lives in

they bought that thing man they bought it they are we all know this man so and I put this so I said this on Gills Arena man and I've spoken to said person who I'm about to mention right now so I've I said this on Gills Arena man and I've spoken to

said person who I'm about to mention right now since I've said this I put a lot of this on T. Moran I put a lot of this behavior on him

but first okay you want to let your child grow up cool he's a professional athlete now cool you want to give him a little leeway a little rope

to be him to find himself to do all these things yes absolutely but when it's become detrimental to his career and his brand or who he is we got to reevaluate some things son we got to go back to the drawing board son we can't do these things son i can't be at the game behaving this way son i got to move different son so we could do So all of these things they have to do collectively to change people's images on John, the family, the Grizzlies, all of it. It has to be a collective effort. Because if not, like we all know, the only thing we respect as athletes is playing time and money. Yeah.

And these little slap on the wrist and this, that, and the third, like I tell people all the time, man, and God rest David Stern's soul. If this was David Stern's NBA, none of them. Yeah. He'd make an example out of it. You're not going to make a mockery of this logo. You're not going to continue to make a mockery of this logo. You're not going to continue to make a mockery of this.

Even as great as he is, David Stern didn't care. He don't care nothing about that. You're not bigger than that logo, man. As y'all say, the shield, right? No one is bigger than y'all's shield, right? David Stern carried that NBA logo the same as the

NFL shield. You're not bigger than that he would have made an example out of John either you listen this man told me the words out of his David Stern's mouth to my ears

son if you want to continue to be a part of this NBA you will change your ways and this was me fighting on the floor this had nothing about firearms

me getting in trouble this was just me fighting on the floor and giving me this warning. So what you think the message would have been for this situation with this kid? I don't care. K-U was in the league when everybody had, if you remember, everybody used to wear the baggy pants and had the tall tees. And David Starr said, y'all going to clean this issue up.

He said, we got too much money at stake. Sponsors, advertisers, this is over. Nah. This man put in a dress code, dog. Cause dudes was coming to the game in throwback jerseys and wearing throwback jerseys

and stuff on the bench. He put in a dress code. Hey, K-Bart, I got about 70 of them throwing in the throwback jerseys. Come on, man. We got, no. So it's, it's lessons need to be learned

in this current situation. We do just recently. The old gun thing, they find you 75 and you come back and you post pew, pew. Like... Yeah.

It ain't enough yet. You got to... Somebody got to step in. I hope... I hope he... I hope Ja figures it out because he doesn't realize how much money he's actually costing himself with this. I mean, yeah, he has the Nike deal, but Nike is not the only brand that pays money. They have so many other brands that he's missing out on so many opportunities. A lot of times, a lot of

people thought he could be the face of the NBA. Charismatic, the way he can play the game. He's a small guy and the NBA loves small guys. They love guards. And he has it. And I just don't know why he wants to

perpetuate this type of behavior. But to each his own. Kmart, thanks for joining us. Hey, guys, everybody do us a favor. Go follow Kmart on IG. Kmart, what's your IG? Everything Kmart Senior, man. You know what I'm saying? That's Kmart Senior.

Everything IG. Twitter. Kmart Senior, baby. And you can watch him. Go ahead. Hold on. Before you go, right? Hey, K-Mart, I'm going to throw something else in on that bet.

I'm going to throw something else in there. Hey, listen. LeBron James, you know, when he hit 50,000 points, he gave me the ball. And the actual ball that went in when he hit the points, if Houston beat beat florida i see the ball i promise you put that in there so you already know how much this shit worth what you laughing at you know what i want that gold jacket that you wrote hof on that you put on the sideline. That's the job. I want that. Nah. You ain't got it no more.

I'm looking for it. That's one-on-one. I can't find it. Hey, thank you. Thanks Kmart for joining us. Everybody go follow Kmart on IG, Kenyon Martin Sr. On IG, Twitter, Facebook. You can watch him weekday on Gil's Arena. Make sure you go subscribe to Gil's

Arena. Gil is doing a great job. You guys are doing a great job over there, K-Mart. I love catching you guys from time to time. Continue success. Thanks for joining us. And don't be afraid to stop by again and join us. Hey, did you get that lookout sent you? Yes, I did. It went to the PO box and later

misplaced, but I did get it. But yes, I did. It went to the PO box and later misplaced, but I did get it. But yes, I did appreciate that. Okay. Absolutely. All right. I appreciate it, man. Thanks for joining us, K-Martin. We'll see you down the road.

All right, K-Martin. I'll let you, boy. Love. Salute. K-Martin, Kenya Martin, the last senior to be drafted number one overall in the 2000 draft, taken number one overall by the New Jersey Nets. When he was there, they went to back-to-back NBA finals. They lost to Shaq and Kobe.

They lost to the great Tim Duncan and that squad. But Kenyon Martin was a hell of a player, a tremendous defensive player. But he was also the last of their true enforcers. They don't make them like that anymore. But Kenyon couldn't fight like he could back then because they take all his money. And I know he don't want to give that up. So thanks for joining us, K-Mart. Oh, Joe, they've been a big discourse was created over the weekend when draft expert tweeted,

lots of double taps and hitches from Shador today. NFL defenders closed windows quickly. This was a concerning workout. Andre Sisco said, boy, better stop patting that ball. We're breaking all that early. But Darius Slayton jumped in and said, I promise he can pat the ball just fine if a DB was so good at breaking on the ball

and pass, they'd have eight plus picks a year. Same guys that follow the two man dagger concept and give up digs in the third and long every season. All season long talking about, boy, pat the ball, what a joke. I said the exact same thing. I said the exact same thing.

What? All the experts, the DBs, they're going to drive on that. Man, listen, they're not driving on nothing. Man, stop playing. This is a timing game. It's always been a timing game. It always has been.

Quarterbacks have been patting the ball since the beginning of time. It's a part of rhythm. It's a part of rhythm throwing as well. Sometimes you hit, sometimes you don't. Sometimes you pat, sometimes you don't. Sometimes the pat is for the timing of the actual throw. Waiting for the receiver to get open.

It's a part of the rhythm when you're playing. Hey, when you throw when you John Elway throw that skinny route, right? Yeah. When you hit that seven step, the ball is gone. Yes. Now play like that. There's no hitch and there's no step, the ball is gone. Yes.

Now, play like that. There's no hitch and there's no pack because the ball's coming out on time. Right. You got to dig route. You got to curl route. There's a pat on the ball. If you get to that fifth step, if you're not at your break yet, it just is. The corner route, the deep ball, when you hit that seven step, you got play. There's a pat on the ball before you release it.

You're taking five with a hitch. My point exactly. Whoever that was, for one, we talk about it in shorts, and we talk about it on air. Turn on the goddamn film. Watch all 32 NFL quarterbacks on dropback passes. You'll see all of them take hitches. You'll see all of them pat the ball.

It's a part of the game. It always has been. That's called nitpicking, trying to find something wrong to say. And then you loud and wrong. You loud and wrong. Well, hopefully everybody will get their chance to see but Ocho at this point in Juncture

everybody's trying to find fault you know he's getting his head around too quick before the break DB's gonna take key on that he's not dropping his hips or he's doing this he's tilting the route he's leaning into the route

and the db i you know i get it i get it i get it uh just for me you hold like oh sure the way i look at it game film is the most important very now if i'm looking at a game if i'm looking at a guy's game tape i'm watching now if he looks fast when he goes to the compound, I hope he runs fast. I hope he's quick. I hope he jumps high. So now that cooperates what I've seen on tape. Now, if there's

something that I see on tape that I don't see when he tests, I got to go back and evaluate, okay, did I miss something on show? What am I missing? Then, because at the end of the day, I still believe tape is the most important. And I'll give you a prime example.

Ozzy, he took Terrell Suggs. Terrell Suggs ran 4.8 with track spikes and a jock. I say, Ozzy, how do you take this man with a top 10 pick and he ran 4.8 and he look me damn bad? Turn on the film. Somebody got them 24 sacks. Somebody got the 24 sacks. He's like, son, you watching Ben the Edge? You don't understand.

I said, okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I said, okay. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. And look, why am I arguing with Ozzy? Look at the Hall of Famers. He's got Ray Lewis, Jonathan Ogden, Ed Reed, Suggs is going to be a Hall of Famer. Lamar Jackson is going to be a Hall of Famer.

Marsha Yonder is going to be a Hall of Famer. So, I mean, what do we do here yeah at the end of the day watch the tape do you see what what do you see on tape are there some things everybody has things that they can correct y'all make it seem like peyton and tom and everybody there's something you can get better at but to say a guy is flawless is just not true no not at all not at all you can break down people's tape right now you can break down people's tape right now

that are in the league that are some of the best at their positions right now and you can find flaws in their game absolutely all you have to do is nitpick you can nitpick on any and everybody there is always something to continue to work on no matter how long you've been playing this game because you'll never be perfect. No matter how much you strive for, you strive for perfection, you will always fall short because you're human.

And there will always be human error in everything that you do. So, listen, I understand what the guy was saying with the scout, whoever tweeted that out. I don't think they really understand the game of football in general. Before making that general statement, when all quarterbacks do this, they all do, based on the play, based on the length of the route. I mean, it made no sense. It was so funny to see Micah going back and forth and Darius Slayton talking trash. That was funny. And most of the time, the quarterback, they have the ball. How many times do you see the quarterback bring the ball up with one hand and throw it?

They bring the ball up here like this. They don't choke. Exactly. And then that rhythm throw, it's a pack and let it go. Yes. A pack and let it go. No. Just to keep the timing and continuity of the play going.

Like, you know, smoke route, a slant, quick out, you can't hit you like that. Because the damn show going the other way. It's coming out. It's coming out right away. Yeah, so you can...

And it better be early and outside, too. Yes. Yes. You're absolutely right. Because when you're throwing one, two, three, that ball's got to go.

Uh-huh. Because they're driving on that now. Yeah. And the funny thing about it, think about it, that ball's got to go. Uh-huh. Now they driving on that now. Yeah. And the funny thing about it, think about it. We talk about the good DBs in the NFL. Them first three steps, they not even looking at the receiver. They looking at the quarterback.

Exactly. They looking at the quarterback. So once that arm is gone, that's why ball placing is so important because the good DBs are not even looking at the receiver until after that fourth or fifth step. That's how we get them on the sluggo because you do this. Oh, yeah. Yeah, as in the backfield, playing around.

And now they throw it over the top of your head, the sluggo round. Or they get the stutter go because you wish it and he drop his hip. Uh-huh. And the quarterback does that. Yeah. But listen. Hey, as a DB, when they double move you,

you better have hell of a hips in transition. Oh, yeah. Nah, just tackle it. You better have some beautiful hips and be able to transition. Just tackle it. Yeah, man, just tackle it.

Because what he's going to do is that he knows once you know he's beating, you start to come up, he's going to get outside. He's going to get outside your... so you might as well just say, interfere with him. I'm not giving up anything cheap or deep.

Right. But I thought he threw – look, I don't really take anything from anybody throwing the ball in shorts and thing because that's not how you play the game of football. Right. When you watch the guy in shorts, no. Is he Lamar Jackson as far as athleticism? No.

No. Does he have a Patrick Mahomes arm? No. But he has an arm that's plenty good enough. Yeah. Are you telling me that Tom Brady? Are you telling me Peyton Manning? Are you telling me Phillip Rilliver?

Are you telling me Drew Brees are more athletic than Shador? No, they're not. No. No. And they got it done. I'm not saying he's going to be any of those guys, but we're talking about just athleticism. I mean, there ain't no guy, I mean, is he accurate?

Because I've seen a lot of guys with cannons. He's not just accurate. He's insanely accurate. Exactly. Insanely. Can throw every ball. And every ball he He's insanely accurate. Exactly. Insanely. Can throw every ball. And every ball he throws is catchable. Yes. You know, they got some receivers.

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And also, something he doesn't get credit for. We always bring up him not being a dual threat, not being able to run, but his pocket presence. Yes. He has great pocket presence and his ability in short area quickness to be able to extend plays, not get away from people like Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen, but extend plays to make throws downfield. He's very good at that, especially if you watch. Obviously, we watched Colorado all last year, and we understand that. Despite all the sacks he took because, listen, we know one of the issues,

obviously, with him was their line. His offensive line wasn't very good. Yeah. And there ain't no way around it, Ocho. His offensive line wasn't very good. It's not like we're breaking news. You watch the game, and there's a time that he's going to have to know he's going to have to throw the ball away. Yeah.

You're going to have to throw the ball away. You live to see another day. You don't want to take that unnecessary punishment, and you don't want to take your team out of field goal range, or you don't want to make it third and long or second and long. Hey, throw the ball away. Live to see another day. And that comes with maturity. I mean, the guy is only, what, 21, 22 years of age.

So it takes time, and he'll get better. The Peyton Manning that you saw, the great quarterbacks that you saw in the rookie season, there weren't that midway through and at the tail end of their career. They were better. You get better. You learn more. Once you come to the NFL, you start studying tape.

You start watching. You pick up things. You self-evaluate yourself. That's what the really great ones do. They self-evaluate themselves. Like, damn, that's why that mofo covered me. Damn, I tipped off this route. But think about the names that you said, the Tom Brady's, the Peyton Manning's, when they

first started, where their years weren't exceptional as opposed to how they ended up. But who would say Shador doesn't go somewhere, right? You see how he talked in that presser when he said, whoever's serious about me and wanting to franchise change a quarterback, that's who needs to sign me. Who says he doesn't come in and have a season

like C.J. Stroud did, depending on where he goes? Who's to say he doesn't come in and have a season like Jayden Daniels did with the Commanders, depending on where he goes? But what if he has that belief where his presence alone heightens everything else around him? Who the hell

knew Jayden Daniel of them go to the Commanders and turn the franchise around just like that in six months? The great quarterbacks give you hope. See their crowd go to Houston and turn the Texans around in six months. Yeah. Come on, man.

Ain't no telling. Ain't no telling ain't no telling what's finna happen but hey let's just give him an opportunity let's see where he goes hopefully he goes someplace and has a good offensive coordinator good head coach

have great talent around him because if you go back and look Ocho what did CJ have around him because if you go back and look, Ocho, what did CJ have around him? Nico Collins, Tank Dale, had Dalton Schultz. Nice tight end. Look at Jay Daniels.

Had nice, hey, they had Zach Ertz. They had Terry, scary Terry McLaurin. Uh-huh. Well, listen,

I like that you just broke that down. Now look at the places that he had the chance to go to. We got the Browns, right? Mm-hmm. We got Njoku. We got, to go to we got the browns right you got in joku we got my we got jerry judy we got my rock runner i'm not i'm not sure who the number two is who's the number two receiver i forget the guy i know you're talking about i i yeah he was okay uh yeah but you

know they uh once they got uh moved on from amari right um I forget the guy's name. He took over. I can't remember. I can't remember myself. But then, okay, let's say it's not Cleveland. Let's say the Giants. You got Malik Nables. Yep. And Darion, I think Slayton is still there too, right?

Didn't they retire Slayton? We got Slayton. We were just arguing with Michael Parsons. Yep. You know, come on now. Come on now. We can, we can,

we can work with that. I just think the thing is that sometimes we have false perceptions that we think the guy coming in should be a finished product and that's the best

he's going to be. And they don't realize that these guys have an opportunity to get better. That's not the best, that shouldn't be the best that they,

that they, that they are they should incrementally get better and you work at it you study you put the time in good things normally happen

so what is Elijah Moore oh Elijah Moore hey Elijah Moore I think they got him from Clemson. He can run some routes now.

He got some feet on him. Cedric Tillman. Where did Cedric Tillman come from? Tillman. I played with a guy named Cedric Tillman. He went to Alcorn State. Hey, I know Elijah Morris. Well, he can run some routes, bro.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a smaller guy. Good in the slot. But you know, Jerry Judy is tremendous in that slot. Jerry Judy. I was happy for Jerry. Yeah, he had a hell of a season. Because, look, he wasn't getting the opportunities.

They didn't have the quarterback. He grew frustrated. I think the thing is, it's easy when you're a young receiver, Ocho, to get down. Because the quarterback. He grew frustrated. I think the thing is, it's easy when you're a young receiver, Ocho, to get down. Fans start booing you. Coaches boo you. Playing time, all of a sudden, you normally play at 45 plays.

You play at 20. Well, how the hell do you expect me to show you something in 20 plays when at least five of those, the quarterback's going to get flushed. Another five, I'm not the number one option i might be i might not even be the second option i might be third option and second and two of those gonna be screened he gonna get sacked on another three so how the hell you expect me

to do something with 20 plays and i'm really only involved in about seven of them hey i'm excited. I can't wait for football season. When is the draft? The draft next week, huh? Yeah, he was there last year. Elijah Moore, he's not there anymore, Ocho. He was there last year because I remember him catching a couple of passes against the Broncos.

That's what a name. Okay. Jerry Judy, Cedric Tillman, and some guy named michael woods obviously and joke who's there yeah what okay what hell we could work with that too we good we good we could work with that shoot uh coach prime confronts the nfl scout dfcu pro day he walked up and said do what y'all do telling his kids to ignore the nfl scout i like that i think what it was like that the uh the 40 time he said look whatever you guys have been practicing do that you do that yeah don't listen to those scout coming and telling people how how to do something that

they've been training for all this time and here you go coming and changing up what they've been doing, whatever the continuity is, whatever the rhythm, however they've been training, you come and tell them to do it this way. Man, if you don't get out of the way, what are you talking about? Hey, crowd hug the line. Get as close to the line as you possibly can. Whatever the lean that your guys are talking, because you got to come to a stop.

You know, because the thing is that, you know, you're trying to get as much lean as you possibly can. Right. Hey, whatever you've been practicing for the last six to eight weeks. Right. Do that. That's what you do. Keep doing it. Hey, I mean, Scout, man, I hate when they do that, man.

They, you know, get a little power, come in there, try to abuse it. Hey, I want you to do it. No. No. Why am I going to listen to you. I just met you. And I've been training all this time, doing it a certain way. Right. Come on, man.

I'm feeling good tonight, bro. What else do we got? Man, y'all know how prime I am with about them kids now. Oh, yeah, he don't play. He don't play. Don't come in there mad. Listen, for one, you're already in a pressing situation. Yes.

You're already in a pressing situation where you got to perform. Now, we don't need the scout coming in trying to conduct and have players do everything the exact same way. Go on about your business. Oh, Joe. Peyton Manning had a bold plan to get Joe Thomas off the Browns. Joe Thomas revealed on a recent episode of Tom

and the Hawk football show that the legendary quarterback once called him with a plan to get him cut loose from the organization. He's like, alright, here's the game plan. Go into your GM's office when he's not there, pull your pants down, and take a dump on his desk. Then they can't do anything but trade you.

Or then they can't do anything but trade you. And then you come with me, play one of the Super Bowls. Peyton, I appreciate your humor as always. I appreciate that you want me. That really gives me a lot of warm fuzzies. But I'm not going to be able to poop on my GM's desk. Hey, that's desk. Hey, that's funny.

You know where he got that story from? There was a player that actually did something very similar to that. Wait, somebody really did that in the movie? I ain't going to put it out there. Nope. Hold on. In real life? It's out there. Come on, man. In real life? Yep.

Okay, listen. I'm not? Yep. Okay, listen. I'm not going to ask for no names. I'm not going to ask for what team. I just want to know what year. That's all. I just want to know the year. Because it couldn't have been anything in the 2000s. It's definitely could have been nothing in the 90s.

It was in the 90s. Early 90s. Yep. Okay, okay. I get it. Because back then, in the early 90s, y'all boys was wild. They was. Y'all boys was wild. And kind of it kind of it's different it's different now where the owners and the owners more more so have more control because because the money the money's a little

different yeah back then i could see it doesn't look like the to me, the players controlled the league back then? They didn't. What's it called? Well, Commissioner Tagliabue, he came in when I came in. He left when I left. 14 years, that was it. And then Roger took over. He took over for Pete Rozelle. Pete Rozelle, Tagliabue, Tags was a little bit more player-friendly.

Right. But, yeah, that definitely would have got you cut. It's all traded, Joe, if you had done that. Like I said, it actually happened. I can't picture nobody doing that, honestly. Huh? Can you imagine today's game, a player being that upset and wanting to be traded, and you go upstairs to your GM office and you take a poo-poo on his desk? Mm-hmm.

Nobody even has the you-know-what to pull that off. Oh, Joe. Former Atlanta Falcons wide receiver Julio Jones, one of the best players in franchise history, announced his retirement from the NFL. Jones, a seven-time Pro Bowl selection, a two-time first-team All-Pro selection during his 13 NFL seasons. He twice led the NFL in receiving yards, 2015-2018, and he's the Falcons' all-time leader in receptions, 848,

receiving yards, 12,896, his 60 receiving touchdowns marked second in Falcons history behind Roddy White. How will you, Ocho, remember Julio? Julio's one of the best to ever play this game, man. We talk about top five. We talk about top. Listen, might be top five. Honestly, to come out of Alabama,ama man one of the greatest ever i enjoy

watching julio play somebody it's it's so funny right watching julio jones play there's a there's a young fella down in ohio state that's from miami who looks something just like oh yeah jeremiah smith who might be the second coming of julio j. But, man, Julio was awesome to watch, man, throughout his entire career. Some of the things he could do on the field. That 300-yard game he had against the Carolina Panthers was unbelievable. When he snatched that goddamn ball off the top of Luke Quigley's head that time. When he snapped that ball away from Malcolm Butler in the end zone. For that, man, there are some great highlights of Julio Jones.

Julio, I know you're going to see this, boy. I've always been a fan of yours. I've always showed you your love and gave you your flowers while you were actually still playing. I'm still a fan to this day.

You're going to get you that gold jacket because you're definitely a Hall of Famer. Oh, for sure. You top five in my book. I would have to shuffle the five around a little bit,

but you belong in it. I salute you on a great career, and that's it. He was nice, huh? Amazing career. He was nice. Consummate pro. Had a great career. I wish he could have finished his career in Atlanta.

Bouncing around, he went to Tennessee after he left that, right? I think he went to Tennessee. He went to, I think he went to Tennessee after he left that, right? I think he went to Tennessee. He went to Tampa, and he went to Philly. No, Philly, yeah. But, man, he had a, man, if only they could have closed out that Super Bowl. That 28-3 game? And he had an amazing catch that had him in field goal range.

And Matt Ryan took a sack. On the sideline, right? On the sideline? Yep. Woo-hoo! Hey! Woo! Ocho, Alexander Ovechkin.

Ovi. Ovi, he passed Wayne Gretzky. He passed. He broke Rayne Gretzky's record. Gretzky had a mark of 894 goals that had stood since he retired from hockey in 1999. Ovechkin scored his record-setting 895th goal in the second period against the New York Islanders in the same game. Yeah. 894 came in 1,487 games for Gretzky. 1,487 games. 895 came from Ovi.

The matchup was immediately paused, and the ceremony with Gretzky on site took place, and he commemorated the moment. Mm-hmm. Me, personally, I didn't think anybody could break this record. Right. Didn't. And it seems like he's going to be well

in the 900s because I don't think he's going to retire. I mean, you look at the guys that are close now. I don't think Sid's going to play enough games. Sid Crosby can't catch him. Maybe it's some of these what's this guy at the Edmonton Orleans? What's this guy's name? Maybe he

or the guy at Colorado. McKinnon? Yeah, McKinnon. McKinnon or God. I don't know. It slipped my mind. I watch hockey too. I don't know why it slipped my mind.

I know. He played with the Edmonton Oilers. He's... McDavid. McDavid. Conor McDavid. Conor McDavid. Conor McDavid, yes. Yeah.

Hey, them boys good. Oh, yeah. McDavid and McKinnon. McKinnon and McDavid is like Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. Mm-hmm. I mean, that's the only comparison I can think of in football terms. But Ovi now has the record. And I think he's only been one franchise.

He's only been with the Capitals, right? Yeah. Because Gretzky was in Edmonton and then he went to the Kings. But he brought hockey to Southern California. Hey, speaking of hockey, you ever been? No, I went to the. I went to one. Boomer told me to tell you what's up.

For real? Yeah, I saw him Saturday. Yeah, I went to a couple of Rangers games. Okay, okay, okay. I was just making sure you've been able to sit up close to the glass. Yeah, right down the Saturday. Yeah, I went to a couple of the Rangers games. Okay, okay, okay. I was just making sure. You've been able to sit up close to the glass and understand. Oh, yeah, right there on the ice. Yeah.

Listen, how special the game of hockey is. Now, it doesn't get the love it deserves because there's so many other sports that we have to choose from and watch. But, man, a hockey game up close. We're talking about first dates. Now, I said taking a woman to go watch NASCAR because it's different. It's something she's probably haven't done before. But watching NASCAR outside is a good date. But hockey?

And you get some tickets on the glass? Man, listen. And wear a jacket, too, because I'd be cold as hell in there. Oh, yeah, it'd be cold. Hey, no, that's the whole point, huh? You take us to a hockey game, and guess what? Now it's cold. Hey, there you go.

She want to cuddle with you. Huh? And you get smashed smashed into it is see that's why i can't take you anything ash only ash will put a beer on the wall and have them slash it to it and get everybody sprayed with beer oh joe mariah carey's 13 year old son gets embarrassed when she walked into his room here. Ocho, Mariah Carey's 13-year-old son gets embarrassed when she walked into his room and ended up

on his Twitch stream. Let's take a look. Let's take a look. Too late, bro. No, you can't say hi. Mom, stop. Why are you doing this? Hey, that's funny. I got to understand it. Listen, I don't think he understands that actually helps his Twitch stream. That man don't care nothing about that.

You know? No. You're like, come on, mom. Come on now. Yeah. And can you imagine your mom and Mariah Carey and you on Twitch and she coming in behind you? And anybody, Beyonce, Adele, whomever. Can you imagine?

Yes. And could you imagine a blue-eyed neat stream playing video games and stuff and Beyonce having to walk in the back? Or Jay having to walk in the back and come in the stream? Man, that would be dope. That would be dope. But you have to realize, Ocho, kids don't view their parents like the outside world views their parents.

You're right. You're just mom. You're just dad. Right. All the other fanfare that come along with it. I don't care nothing about that. Don't care nothing about it.

Right. That's funny. You ever embarrass your kids, Ocho? Uh, you know, at this point, my kids are,

they're so much older now. Now, what I will do to embarrass them, uh, graduations or stuff like that, dance recitals, cheerleading recitals, track meets. I'll be extra, extra loud on purpose in certain moments. In certain moments, just to have a little fun. But I try not to put any attention on me, especially when I go to things that they're doing.

I try to make sure it's all about them. So I do that very, very, very, very seldom. Very seldom. Titus, what's up? What? Titus, look at me. He said, I'm getting my ears cracked right now. He said, Dad been out of town.

I haven't been able to get my shine. Titus, what's up, twin? He said, I'm going to get me a profile. He said, I'm trying to develop me a profile, little chump. There you go. There you go? He said, I'm going to get me a profile. He said, I'm trying to develop me a profile, little chump. There you go. There you go. He said, I'm trying to get me a profile. How tall are you?

On my hind legs, I'm about two and a half. Okay, maybe almost three. He said, I just got a bath. I smell good. He said, what did you have today? Tell him what you had today. What did you eat today? Did you eat daddy chicken? He said, yeah, I had good. Say, what did you have today? Tell them what you had today. What did you eat today? Did you eat daddy chicken?

Say, yeah, I had chicken. Say, I love oxtails. Oxtails? Yep. I love pig ears. Say, if you go to the butcher mark, get some pig ears. I like them too. Wait, he eat all that or he just naming stuff?

No, he eat all that. Oh, he eat all that. Hey, don't talk about just naming stuff. No, he eat all that. Oh, he eat all that. Hey, don't talk about just naming stuff. No, he eat all that. But what happened to our farmers? He eat farmer's dog too. Those are treats. I mean, he'll eat big.

That's not a meal. Oh, I thought, oh, listen, you know, I don't have no animal. I thought farmer's dog. But sometimes when I don't want to be bothered

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In this situation, what you going to do, Ocho? What you mean? Ocho, it's entertainment. Wait, it ain't no entertainment. You ain't got no respect for me. What you talking about? You ain't got no respect for me. You already know what time it is.

But one, if Usher even come up to your lady anyway and she engaged in that type of activity knowing what time it is, you know she'll go. Honestly, to tell you the truth, 98% of women in this situation, if there wasn't 20,000 people watching, she go, it's a green light. That's just life.

That's life. That's reality. You didn't hear me just now, did you? I heard you. If she'll go, if she, if you married, and she'll do this in front of 20,000 people, imagine what she'll do if it wasn't nobody watching. Oh, man, you already do.

I already want to talk. Oh, no. Oh, come on. Hey, don't throw up. I'm just trying to give it to you. I'm trying to be brutally honest. There are certain situations. Listen to me.

People in the chat, you know, I mean, it's hard for some people to understand because most women really won't be in that situation based on who you are and based on the type of crowd that you're around. I say it all the time. There are certain men in this world, I don't care who your woman is, I don't care how loyal or faithful you think she is, there are certain men in this world. I don't care who your woman is.

I don't care how loyal or faithful you think she is. There are certain situations that can come about opportunities and circumstance that she will go depending on who it is. I'm telling you, listen to me. They can talk about that high almighty. Oh, my morality. i can't do this and uh i you know i believe in this and i believe in that and you know i'm i'm i'm faithful man piss please excuse the language excuse the language based on opportunity and circumstance depending on who it is trying to holler you're're going to go. I've seen it happen too many times, huh?

You hear me? I've seen it happen too many times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen it happen too, Ocho. You ain't got to tell me. You ain't got to tell me. Listen, the greatest teacher in life is experience, huh? The greatest teacher in life is experience.

Hey, I'm one of them ones that look here. I said, look here. While you're trying to get in here, we're going to be gone tomorrow. Yeah. Don't mess that up.

Yeah. I don't know how long. I said, look, I don't know how long y'all been together. Come on now. Don't mess this up. Come on.

I said, we here for a night. We here for two nights. Come on now. This man going to be here. Don't mess this up. Come on. I say, we here for a night. We here for two nights, Ops. Come on, man. This man going to be here. Don't. Oh. He going to be all right.

All right, come on. All right, okay. Come on. You know what I mean? You'll be all right. Hey. Hey. Hey.

I did my part. I did my part. So, I tried to talk out of it. But, hey. Okay. I did my part. I did my part. I tried to talk out of it, but hey, okay. I did my part. I don't know. Now listen,

I know I said what I said, but there is a small percentage. There's a very small percentage based on belief, based on religion, the way they were raised, their moral compass. They won't. But 98%. There's a very, very large percentage.

Yeah. You know? They're from Google. Listen, let me tell you something. I know people in the chat, they're not going to listen to me. The one percenters in the world, the one percenters, they're going to go now. Yeah. I ain't going to lie to you. And then you got that next

upper echelon. You got the billionaires. They take their picking. And they keep on ticking. Ain't too many people telling them no. I just think the thing is Ocho for blood. I'll be honest with him i'm

saying look yeah hey i mean i don't know how i don't know your situation i don't right but i'm saying y'all came together i saw y'all you hugged up and somehow you made it over here now look we come on now you know who we are, you know who we are. You know who we are. We don't know you. And the likelihood, we probably ain't coming back here ever again. And don't do your man like that. Don't leave him.

But after she said, don't worry about it, what I'm supposed to do, Ocho? Oh, yeah. At that point in time, hey, slide on, bro. Yeah. Hey, you just said forget it, hey, slide over, bro. Yeah. Hey, you just said forget it, huh? Ocho, I'm answering to my friend. I'm going to be honest. Right.

Ocho, why you trying to steal my shine? Won't you go to Ocho? I will send you to Ocho. Come on. Hey, send him on over here. Send him over here. He said, hey. He said, I'm a chick magnet. He said, can I pet him? No.

Yeah. Unless you got a dog, unless you got a female dog with you, you can't pet me. Yeah. He said, nah. He said, you ain't got no female dog with you? Nah. He said, if you got a male dog, we fighting. But where you think you going? I love you too, buddy.

What's wrong with your bedtime? Chad, Chad, Chad. Oh, yeah. I like that. I see you. Chad. Hey, you hear Ocho? You want to go play with Ocho? You wanna go play with Ocho?

Yeah Sit him Sit him on down here With your boy man Hey Sit him on down here With your boy You wanna go with Ocho?

You wanna go with Ocho? Huh? Hey Go get on your spot Go get on your spot Go Spot I'm almost done Hey hey go get on your spot go get on your spot go spot I'm almost done

spot but that happens on so many occasions so many occasions at times women not normally thinking things through. And they're willing.

Yeah, don't throw this away. Don't throw this away. But, Ocho, I'll tell you what I did. I don't say no name, but I have a situation. I have a homeboy. We was in Vegas. It was me. One, two, three.

It was four of us. We all hung together take your time now so we go we we uh we had uh we're in vegas and i forget where we were and he uh these young ladies come in they sit down they start talking don't nobody know nobody we talk right homeboy leno to me I'ma marry that girl What? Just like that? Ten minutes into the conversation

I'ma marry her I look at it Other two look at it like Nah, you play it So You know, we go out until, you know, when you go to Vegas, you ain't got no tag along.

No, she can't come. Three months later, they were married. What? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Bring that to, bring it, bring, bring that back to me one more time. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Bring that to me one more time. Hold on.

As a matter of fact, it's 20-2004. Right. They say they can't hear me. Can you guys hear me now? Is this better? Huh? Okay. And so, Ocho,

we go to Vegas. It's four guys. Me and three of my partners. We at one of these casinos. I forget it was. Maybe it was MGM or the Bellagio. Might have been a Venetian. But anyway, these

ladies come up, start talking. They're nice looking ladies I mean hey I ain't gonna say no no it wasn't no Houston talent I'm saying but you know it's you know okay

so we talking yeah you know what you do I mean such and such blah blah blah he leans in I'ma marry her look he's just right there on right there on the spot yes yes i said

you know hey yeah you know you're hey hey oh joe you know how it is when you try to you know you try to make a move you laugh a lot of things that you don't really mean right hey hey you know hey we going to bore bore but we going to you know morphe coach you know you say something anything so i'm thinking i'm thinking he just said you know to try to make a play right but he tell my other partners yeah i'm gonna marry her i'll say so what did she what did she do i don't know what she did we just just met him. But she was a nice looking chick. But anyway, Ochoa, so she was, hey, no, she can't go. She can't tag along with us, you know.

But anyway, he's like, he hang with us for like a couple, then he, three months later, they married. Damn! You see, I love a young fella like that See that's what I call being intentional See when I move right I move with intent I know exactly what I want I say what I'm going to do and I execute said plan

Right Now what did I tell you was going to happen in 2026 I'm getting what I thought I was supposed to be somewhere In February of 25. I just bought a ticket. I want a refund. You can get your refund and you get your $5,200.

Now, that didn't work out for February. But I tell you, what's finna work out, though? God had different plans. Huh? You need to spend the block. Shit. Spend who? Hey, hold on. Can you hear me real quick? Can you hear me? I hear you. The who? Hey, the car, hey, the car, hey, hold on. Can you hear me real quick?

Can you hear me? I can hear you. The car I got, it only goes straight. It don't go left or right and it don't turn around. I got a singular focus and it's headed that way.

You hear me? 2026. I think you're making a mistake. I think I'm not You hear me? I think I'm not In 2026 I'm walking down that aisle

Period Oh Lord have mercy I'm just telling you Don't worry about it Chad I'm going to get to him I'm going to talk to him I'm going to talk to him Now you know

Sometimes Ocho Sometimes Ocho can be irrational. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. One thing I'm not is I'm not irrational. Everything I do is thought out very well. I'm very strategic in all that I do. I'm very methodical in the way that I plan things. Okay? You hear me?

Yes. Everything I do, it takes careful thought, and I think it out. I don't think short-term. I think long-term. But before I execute that plan long-term, I think about the short-term goals and the way I'm going to execute and make things work. Okay. You hear me? I know I play around a lot.

I know I laugh a lot. But I'm very strategic, huh? You hear me? Yeah. I'm very strategic huh you hear me yeah I'm very intentional in all that I do okay yeah yeah

and I mean well that's that's why that's why I don't I don't feel bad about some of the things I do because everything I do is with good intention

from the heart with love. Why you laughing at me? This man say everything I do is with good intention. For you or for everybody involved. No, no, no. The funny thing about it is everything I do,

I put everyone else before me. Let's start there. I put everybody else before me. Let's start there. I put everybody else before me. And I work through that. I feel good. Oh, Joe, and no, they're not still married. That is the latest of the year. A year?

Yeah. Damn. Yeah. But he ain't, okay, well. Well. wait he he ain't okay well well it's all good bad looking bad you know what I should write a book

to tell some of the stories hey that'd be a good one but you can't you gotta change the names oh yeah change the names I definitely gotta

change the names listen I still wanna know I wanna know who shitting on the GM table. I'm for real. I want to know. Listen, there's only a few players in the history of the game that can pull that off where there's really nothing few players in the history of the game that can pull that off where there's really no,

um, there's really nothing the gym can say because they are the main focal point of said team. So I don't know. It had, it had to be somebody. And then, you know what? It gotta be a decent,

a defensive player too. Yeah. But, uh, nah, you know, something, like I said,

my casket, you don't need a forklift to carry my casket. Cause I'm taking a lot of secrets to my grave. So my casket is going to be really heavy. Yeah. Something you just die with. Yeah. You just take that.

Right. For me, it ain't worth it. It's not even worth it. There's not amount of money. OK, you give me two, three million dollars, New York Times. It will be a New York Times bestseller. Absolutely. It ain't worth it. It's not even worth it.

I mean, the stories that are from the place that we've been. Yeah. There's some good ones. You hear me? There's some good ones. Ooh. All I just, hey, listen just god just just lay your hand on me that's all because i'm a chain i'm a changed man i'm a changed man i think i didn't got baptized again because the last one was wearing off i'm walking with faith one foot in front of the other i got my head high so I can see where I'm going.

Yeah, I mean, she wrong for that. I mean, you married and you out there doing a situation like that, you know you can't kiss no man. You married. You can't even, I mean, you got, when you married, you have to move a certain way. Move a certain way. Because I move a certain way. I don't

do all that. You married, all that flirtation stuff, I don't get down like that. Because I don't want you, because look, and this is what I tell people, is that look, oh, I say, you have to understand, I'm just not some willy-nilly guy. Say it again. Matter of fact, whatever you say right now,

say it slow. I tell people that before we get involved, I say, well, I used to. I say, look, can you do me a favor? Do not mention me. Oh, why? I say, because I'm not some willy-nilly guy. Come on now. He's going to feel some type of way.

He's going to think I'm trying to big-time him, or he's going to think you were seeing me while you was seeing him and I don't need that cause it wasn't that when when you free from him we can talk

but I don't wanna get down like that Ocho listen they play this game They play this game, man. They play this game. So whatever she was doing, whatever she did, when the opportunity, again, this is an opportunity, right? Right. Based on circumstances.

You see how the opportunity presented itself and the circumstances when I have a chance to engage with Usher at a concert. And what does she do with that opportunity? She took the chance. Yeah. So now you ruin the marriage, and you already know. So you're conducting yourself... And you're not going to marry Usher because he already married. Listen. Bingo.

She's about to pull a David Ruffin. Man, please. Listen. Listen. You're supposed to move the same way when you're single the same way you move as a wife there's no switch there's no switch that you hit on and all of a sudden you put a ring on your finger or you walk down the aisle and then all of a sudden you different however you move when you're single is how you're going to move when you're married or when you're in a relationship.

If a certain opportunity presents itself, you're still going to do the same exact thing you would do if you were single. Nothing changes. It's not all of a sudden your human morale kicks in and you're just this different person. It just doesn't.

Hey, Ocho, I saw a thing from Ruby Rose today. She said that she tell a guy that she's getting her hair done and he doesn't ask how much it costs. It ain't gonna last long. Wait, hold on. This is the same Ruby Rose that said her dude had to make five

million dollars a year? Listen, listen, you hopefully, when the tooth fair when your tooth come out hopefully you hope the tooth fairy leave a doll under your pillow hopefully now women can hope women can have beliefs women can have prerequisites and they can have wants the chance of actually getting some of them that you say is slim none because when you get when you go into that pool oh stay with me real quick now stay with me now chat y'all stay with me real quick when you go into that pool of wanting men that make five million dollars or more you got to understand your chances you have to

look at yourself and you have to look at the pool of women you got to deal with to be the main one to be able to get taken care of to be a part of that rotation of a man that makes $5 million or more. You get where I'm going with it? I don't want to break it all the way down. Yeah, but I know there's... I just want delusion. I want you to lose delusion. Lose that part.

Once a guy gets to a level financially, there is more of you than there are of him. Man. So his selection pool is greater than yours. Now, what you need to do, what you're not going to do on this good Sunday is, listen, I'm not saying you're a DJ, but you need to bring that back. Hold on. Hold on. You need to bring that back. Hold on. Hold on.

You need to bring that back. Yes. Let me give him a pen and pad. Boy. What are you cooking? Come on, chef. It is. Bring that back one more time.

Once you get to a certain level of financially. Right. And women know this. Women know that there are more of them than there are of you. Because the likelihood of you finding me, I mean, once you reach a certain level

of financial, you start, okay, you hit a million. You hit five, you hit 10, you hit 15, 20. There ain't a whole lot of people making five, 10, 15, 20 million. Oh, it's very small. How many beautiful women you think they are? Let's just take a state like California where there's 40 million people. Or you take a state like Texas.

They got 27, 28 million people. Or you take Florida or you take New York or you take Georgia. There is more beautiful women in the state of Texas alone than people that make $20 million a year. And then you got two things working against you, women. I call them the two ends. You need it and you're nasty you want stuff but you want to talk to somebody i ain't gonna fit it good oh joey i ain't gonna do this tonight come on don't stop preaching don't stop preaching you're good but

listen if ruby rose want to do that make more than five million if she want to get her done and she has a guy that will fund her getting her hair, that's fine. But you know what the funny thing about it? This is what I love about women. This is what I love about women, regardless of ethnicity, regardless of prerequisites, regardless of what they want. Whatever they demand or whatever they say they want out of a guy, there will always be a dude willing to do it. There will always be a sucker. You hear me? And I mean that in not a disrespectful way, in not a disrespectful manner.

But whatever their wants are, there will always be a sucker. You hear me? And I mean that in not a disrespectful way, in not a disrespectful manner, but whatever their wants are, there will always be a sucker willing to do it. But what happens? Let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho. Okay, she meets that guy that he makes $5 million.

What happens to the next, what happens when the guy that comes along that makes $10 or $15 million? Oh, she gonna go. She gonna go. She gonna go. Unc, that's the game. That's always been the game huh what's the first thing women say when they leave one guy and they go to the next one oh i gotta do it with a

bigger bag oh i gotta he got more money than you and guess what well yeah and guess what the guy with the bigger bag he got a bigger roster, too. Are you a starter or are you coming off the bench? Coming off the bench. You might be in the G League. Now you got nothing to do with it. Coming off. Now you don't even go there, Ocho. Let's just.

Hold on. A bigger bag. Say, wait, one more time. Bring it back for me one more time now. You went to the duel with the bigger bag, but are you on the bench or you're what? You might be in the G League. Damn the bench. He might call you up when one of the players that he got on the roster

when they really not performing. So she might be a two-way player. Hey, but they love the boasting. They love the boasting brag. I got the one with the – I'm so glad i'm at the game i'm glad i'm off the market man i ain't got to deal with these games no more you know i ain't got to deal with these games no more y'all have fun i just i enjoy talking about it you know just through through experience and in my time you know in the field i'm at the playing field i'm waving the white

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Boy, this is a good one, boy. Shoot. Shout out. Happy birthday, Big Bro Sterling. And to me, number 44, Ocho, I saw clips on IG today playing tennis. Are you good enough to go against Serena or Roger Federer? Yes, today is my brother's. He turned 60 today. Hey!

Happy birthday. I called him earlier this morning and he was up. So happy birthday, big bro. You know I love you to the moon and back, stars and back, infinity and beyond. I really appreciate everything that you've done for me and my life. The way you've done

represented this family extremely well. So thank you very, very much. And happy birthday to you, Tyra. Happy 44th. And hopefully you have many more to come. Ocho, could you beat Serena or Federer? Absolutely not. Listen, even Serena. Chad, did y'all hear that?

This is the first time Ocho have actually said he couldn't beat the pro at their chosen profession. Yeah, I'm not going to play around as good as I am at tennis. This time, I'm going to sit this one out and be realistic. Even Serena.

Matter of fact, there's some women right now on tour that I probably couldn't be right now, even as athletic and as good as I am at tennis. I definitely ain't beating none of the men. Oh, no, you're not going to return their serve. Why was I just getting ready to say that? The hand-eye coordination that I would need

and being able to recognize the ball at that speed, that starts from four years old, just years and years. I wouldn't be able to do it. I wouldn't be able to do it. And I can hit back and forth with them at a good speed and a good rate, but the consistency to be able to do it at their level, I just wouldn't be able to do it. I wouldn't be able to do it. And I can hit back and forth with them at a good speed and a good rate, but the consistency to be able to do it at their level,

I just wouldn't be able to do it. And I'm being honest. I'm being honest. XXX, Copsanity said, OKC, can see, Ocho can see, we all can see. Lakers in five. RIS Brandon, Ali Sheik five. RIS Brandon Ali Sheik said, RIS GPS CBS.

Lakers in five. Man, Ocho at the airport in D.C. Yeah. Man, Ocho, the whole airport was saying Lakers in five. For real? I'm talking about the entire airport. I'm signing.

Man, Ocho, I'm signing. I'm at this card, this memorabilia show. Ocho, I'm signing. Sergio Barca, Chewbacca, Walker Flock. Lakers in five. People actually got me signing memorabilia with Lakers in five on it. Hey, that's funny. Convo starters.

I got one up. SGA, ABA, Morris Day. My question, if you could play on any team in this era, where y'all going? Ocho, who you gonna play with? Well, you know, I'm going to Cincinnati. I'm going to Cincinnati. Listen, with these

relaxed rules, with the defensive rules where they can't touch you the way they can now, you take me, that's a good choice. Listen, with these relaxed rules, with the defensive rules, where they can't touch you the way they can now, you take me, that 0-4, 0-5, 0-6, 0-7, 0-8, Ocho, in today's era, with the way they play defense and they can't hit you, man, just stop playing. Boy, I'd be out here going dummy and hockey. I'm going my home, boy. Hey, Trav, we're going to be in a lot of double tight ends.

I'm going with my own boy. Off underscore J said, oh, please write down for tomorrow. OKC, Fruit Punch, High C, John Cena, Only Man I Can't See. Legos in five. Casey Taylor said, dunking on SGA, facing the Tigers in the PGA, tackling Herschel at UGA. Lakers in five.

We need number 18, mamba mentality. We do. Kavarius Dorsey said, hey, when you was on Undisputed during time when Russell Westbrook was on the Lakers, whose idea was it to do those blooper reels showcasing this turnover than any bad shot?

Bro, I ain't calling for no bro. I don't really call for no highlights. Right. Y'all saw, y'all watched the game. So what I need to call for the highlights for? Senator Braun said, I think Commissioner Adam Silver should look to move Memphis Grizzlies

out of Memphis why? they sell out you know you do realize the Grizzlies came from Vancouver so they moved to Memphis Memphis put up the money I mean

I don't think they should move it I think the Grizzlies fans I think they support their team they're kind of excuse me they've kind of fallen on hard times excuse me you know

last couple of games they haven't played well but John hit a excuse me a game winning shot the other night against the Pelicans right now who did he hit that shot against

the Heat the Heat hit that shot against the Heat but John just needs to be able to stay healthy. That little floater? Yeah.

That little floater was nice, boy. That step back. Jar just needs to stay healthy. They got a nice little squad. I think they need another piece. I'm right here. Yeah,

I don't think they can win a championship with that core group. I'm right here. No. Sir Kate. What's up, guys? I see a lot of potential in shallow in his game but his name

is not standing out when it comes to top defenders in the draft where do you see him landing what is his ceiling and what can he improve i mean you don't know you don't know where anybody's ceiling is going to be especially going to the draft you know it's one thing going to the draft regardless of where you go it's what you do once you get there and being able to improve on your game once you do get there. Where you go matters a lot. It absolutely does. I think for a defender, not as much as an offensive player, you know, I always looked at it like, I don't care where the hell I'm going. I'm going to make whoever job, whoever my coach may be, I'm going to make your job as easy as possible because I'm going to make sure I'm on my shit.

Someone is going to keep their job a lot longer because they're going to ask, who are the scouts that found Shannon Sharp? Who recommended, who pitched Dan Reed that they should sign Shannon Sharp? Come on, Dan. All I wanted, I remember, I told you I remember it like yesterday

because back then the draft used to come on Sundays. They had the first two rounds on Sunday and then they had the rest of the draft because it was 12 rounds was on Monday.

Hey, I don't know what to tell him, Ocho. I remember my brother coming to my room and saying, hey bro, we're going to be okay.

Hey, you know I got to hold it down. I said, Spank, all I want is somebody to give me a chance. I said, all I want somebody to do is give me a helmet and a pair of shoulder pads. That's all I ask. Right. They give me that, I'll take care of the rest.

He said, nah, bro, we don't even worry about that. Hey, get you a good night's sleep. I said, all right. Went to bed that night, woke up that morning, I said, man, bro, let's go get us a workout in. Lo and behold, phone rang. Shark, telephone. Like, who the hell know I'm here?

Dan Reed, hey, we took you in the seventh round. Yeah. You happy to be abroad? I said, coach, you won't regret it. He said, hey. Hey, had the plane ticket at the airport went out there i'm looking around all she wrote man please well i ain't going back so i don't know what y'all thinking i ain't going back you know we get out there because you know back there oh you go right away you have a little you

know little minute you know man them guys going hey go right away. You have a little minute, you know. Man, them guys going. Hey, they come in. They going out. Man, you going? No. I say, bro, Mary Point didn't send me to come party. I'm coming to make this damn team.

That's it? I'm coming to make this team, bro. That's it? Spend the seventh round? Seventh. Well, you know, that ain't promised now. Hell no. I know they try to use me as a camp body.

No. I told my brother, all I want is the helmet and a pair of shoulder pads. Hell, I brought my own cleats from Savannah State. Just give me the helmet and the shoulder pads.

So I look like the other motherfuckers. Like the other motherfuckers. So you're going to take the other refs? That's all I needed. Yeah. Boy, look here. I was playing with them folks, Ocho. so you're going to take the NRS that's all I needed yeah boy look here

I was playing with them folks Ocho and I knew once I made it my rookie year it was a wrap I got to grasp how I needed to train during the season what I needed to do how attentive I needed to be

once I got it down and I understood, like, if I'm the, you know, Y tight end, well, the tight end was X back then.

If I'm him or if I'm the, you know, the move tight end, boy, it was over. The worst thing you could do is let somebody

with my God-given athletic ability know what the hell he's supposed to do because it's all over it was over dr frankie bellamy said i hope everyone voted for unking club shayshay and nightcap are nominated for multiple webby awards please go vote thank you doc oh if there was a fire and you could only save one pair, which sneakers are you grabbing with no hesitation? Or are you sprinting out of the house barefoot, do-rag, robe, and a plate of ribs? What pair of shoes am I grabbing? Huh? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. That's a no-brainer uh sneakers i don't i don't love the sneakers like that no more i already beat ass down so i beat ass down yes uh-huh uh i sleep this is what i normally sleep in like this so I ain't got no robe. I might grab my 84 robe, but I don't want that to burn up. Nah, that'll be that. I'm trying to think what the hell I'm going to grab. Oh, well. I'm probably going to grab.

Oh, well. Me, Tidy teddy bear we standing outside I ain't going to get no damn shoes damn them shoes oh I might what if I start that that's going to determine that's going to determine

what I get yeah that's gonna determine that's gonna that's gonna determine what I get yeah that's funny bro I was saying we were gonna stand outside I didn't tell you to come back in here come on yes I'm gonna

save you yes yes yes yes I'm going to save you. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm going to save this big old boy. He's going to be the first thing I... Well, I'm going to grab Teddy Bear. You will follow me out of the house.

Teddy Bear might go try to get a toy. Yeah. Ochoa, if you're out of the house, tell me what you're going to save. Ochoa, what you're going to get? In the house... Oh, I'm grabbing a picture. Uh, yeah. Ochoa, if you don't have a camera, what you gonna save? Ochoa, what you gonna get? Um, in the house. Oh, I'm grabbing a picture. I'm grabbing my grandma picture off the wall. Me and my brother and my grandma.

I'm grabbing that. Damn the rest of the stuff. Damn the watches, this jewelry. I don't care. I'm grabbing that picture. And I got a picture in my range, Ochoa, over my visor. It's her.

Actually, we buried her in that outfit. Pink hat on. I'm getting that picture. As a matter of fact, I ain't saving nothing else. I'm going to close the garage. You know what's funny? I ain't really got nothing here because I'm at the little apartment. Yeah.

And, um... I get you have to run in there and say you know who. But that's okay. We ain't gonna talk about that. Bad dog. Bad dog saying, oh, do you remember all the breeds of dogs you ever had? Would you ever consider having a Japanese

Tosa? I do. My grandmother had a Beagle. Come on, so much. Had a German Shepherd. We had a Mutt. I've owned two Rottweilers. I've had an Akita.

I've had palms, three palms, two Bullmasters, and now a Boar Bull. My uncle and my grandfather and them had hunting dogs. Had a Blue Tick, a Red Bone, a Black and Tan Coon dogs. So they had hunting dogs. But no, now I'm only a small dog guy. I like paws. Even though this joke over here, I mean,

they love me. The big dogs love you, but with their handful, this joke a handful here. Because he don't play. And everybody's scared of him. And I don't like that, having to put him up when they come, but, you know, it is what it is.

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