Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Ja Morant ruining career, Nikola Jokic best center ever, Russell Westbrook avoids media

Episode Date: April 12, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best hoops stories of the week, including Ja Morant ruining his career with gun gesture, Steve Kerr calling Nikola Jokic the best center ever, Russell Westbrook not being accountable, & much more!04:16 - Russell Westbrook avoids media12:36 - UConn wins National Championship22:12 - Houston beats Duke in thriller40:40 - Steve Kerr calls Nikola Jokic the best center ever47:47 - Ja Morant is ruining his career(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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refund. Russell Westbrook avoided the media for three games after he screwed up the Wolves. After the league gave him a warning, this is how he reacted after the Nuggets lost to the Pacers last night. Let's take a look. Can you guys think of the candidates right now and get right to the end of the regular season? I'm not sure, to be honest. Your coach just mentioned the urgency of the situation trying to avoid poly and right now, do you feel like in this locker room there's a sense of a loop to win?

Oh no man, we don't. Not sure. What's up, Mike Lewis? Call this team one of the most resilient we've seen this season. You obviously are able to draw from so many experiences. What can you kind of try to draw from to help with teasing? That's your call. I'll have to ask before we met.

I wish I did, but unfortunately, I don't. What's frustrating you the most right now? I mean, probably just losing. Where's the confidence that this group can figure something out in the next three games and,

you know, be on the right path in the postseason? Um, I hope it's I. I can't speak for everybody in the locker room, but,

um, you know, my head stays high and get ready for Wednesday. Hmm. You don't like the answers? Let me ask you a question, Ocho.

Let me ask you a question. You've been in the locker room. I've been in the locker room. We've had some great wins. We've had some terrible losses. Had they won these games, is he behaving in this manner? Probably not.

Your answers are always different when you're on a high and you've won a game, you know that. Now, most of the time as a player, as a competitor, especially Russell Westbrook, you know how he carries himself. He carries everything on his shoulders. Very passionate, very enthusiastic about the way he plays. You know, when things aren't going well, he wears that on his shoulders.

You know that. Why did they go well? Who missed that layup? Who turned the ball over? Right. Now, he didn't go on three games without talking to the media. You know that's a part

of the obligation. That's a part of the obligation. That's why you make the big bucks. And now, when things go bad, you don't want to talk. But when he was getting those triple-dou doubles, you couldn't beat him to the microphone. Yes, sir. You see, Ocho,

I tell people this all the time. What you do is your profession. A profession, that's a professional. A pro is how you go about doing your job. They're entirely two different things. And sometimes people confuse the two. When I was growing up, I would cry. I would kick things and tear things.

And my grandmother said, I'm going to tear your ass up. Because you're not going to win everything in life. And you're not going to be doing this. I just don't get it, man. That's just how it is. Hey, I got a question. I mean, you know Westbrook very well. Westbrook, Brenna, I don't know him.

I just know from what I've seen. That's my homeboy, a very good friend of mine. But the games where he didn't speak, the games where they may have been caused by him and his errors or whatever. Yeah. Do you fault him for not talking to the media without having,

would not have having a cool down and having a chance of saying the wrong things? Yes. Okay. You go three games? Yeah. So let me ask you, so,

so, so, so, so everybody else, Nicola Jokic had to stand up there and take off. Even though he had that 61 point triple double he had to stand there and face the music everybody else has to stand

and face the music you see I'm big on accountability I'm wrong I'm wrong I just have to be mad enough to come stand before you to get together I was wrong I was wrong I made a mistake I've got to be better I'm not perfect I like that mistake I've got to be better I'm not perfect

I like that but my my goal is to hopefully one day that to show you that this is not who I am no matter what it is

no matter what it is because I've been in a situation where I've lost like I said I dropped a touchdown that would've given us home field advantage throughout the playoffs you go stand before the music

because I believe sunshine's gonna fall rain I'm not gonna drop many more but if I do you go stand before the music because I believe sunshine is going to fall and rain. I'm not going to drop me anymore. But if I do, I'm going to be man enough to stand before you and say, hey, I dropped it. This one's on me.

John threw a perfect pass. Everybody did everything right. All I had to do was my job in that situation. That's the ball. I faced it. Yes, sir. Don't put it on anybody else.

Don't talk about it. It's no team. Yes, it's a team but that play they trusted me in that moment and I let 53 guys down and I let everybody in the stadium and I let every Bronco fan down that's on me I gotta wear that

and I don't just wear it for tonight I wear it for the rest of my life that's live now listen that's live but Now listen, now that's live, but you do have to understand, everybody done conduct themselves that manner. That kind of professional manner. See what you did? That's a good one. That was good. We just talked about

this last night. What do we want women to do? Accept what? Accountability. They ain't going to never do that, huh? But I hear you talking. You can't ask them to accept accountability if you're not willing to accept accountability. They ain't going to never do that, huh? But I hear you talking. You can't ask them to accept accountability if you're not willing to accept accountability. That's dope.

You can never ask more than you're willing to. It's two different sides of the spectrum, but I like where you're going with it because I'm picking up what you're putting down, though. I tell you that. That's a good one. Accountability. Yes.

You have to be. You have to be, you have to hold yourself accountable. We're not perfect. The hardest thing for me to learn is my sister say, Shannon, as much as you try to be perfect, you're not going to be. I understand you do all this stuff and you want,

but Shannon, you're human. And a lot of times humans have frailties. We have vices. You own it, and you try to move forward. I just don't like this. I don't like this. Russ is too good of a player.

He's been a good player for a long time. He's not the same player that he once was, but he's a good player in his situation that he's in. It's not like this is the first time that Russ has had a snap boot that potentially didn't help his team win. It happens. And listen, he's had many times that he's had, he has helped his team win.

He just so happened to be on the other side of the story right now. Play long enough. Play long. Think about it. Peyton, Tom, everybody, all the greats. Michael, LeBron, Kobe. Everybody's had moments like that. If you play long

enough, you are going to have moments like what he had. I don't think any less of Russ because, I mean, look, he missed a layup. He's not the first professional athlete, the first professional Hall of Fame MVP player to miss a layup. Patrick Ewing missed one in the playoffs. Y'all remember against the Pacers.

Point blank. He got caught in between. Do I dunk it or do I... And he hit it. Boom. Hit the back of the iron. Happens. Play long enough. If you play a sport long enough, you're going to have something happen. If you play baseball, you're going to miss a pop fly

ball. You're going to have an error and lead the runs. It happens. It's a part of the game. But I just wish in that situation that wouldn't have happened but it is hopefully

hopefully it's something that he can learn from and move forward and play well in the playoffs and all this thing will be a thing of the past winning cures all

Kmart to UConn, the Lady Huskies, top of the Lady game, caught from South Carolina to record their 12th straight, I mean, excuse me, their 12th overall NCAA titles. Paige Beckert's exit on top all season. Azzy Fudd, Sarah Strong, Paige Beckert

was too much as all three made the all-tournament team. Fudd had 24 points to lead UConn and was named most outstanding player. I knew this game was over. When Paige Beckers had three points and it was already up 12, I said, well, it's over. She ain't even really doing a whole lot, and the game is already over. Okay, Mark? Hey, no, it was a hell of a performance by them, especially defensively, man.

You look at that box score. Yeah. For South Carolina, like, yo. Took the fine time not to be able to make shots in the way UConn played, man. Shout out to UConn, Paige, going out on top. Yeah. With all the hype, man, you don't think that it's going to end this way. Coming off of what happened

transpired last year with Caitlin Clark, with all the hype she had going into the game and the tournament and playing the way she did and being able to piggyback on that success for women's basketball with another dominant performance

by another person that's almost as famous as Caitlyn almost. You know what I'm saying? So, to have someone piggyback on that success and to win it, a shout out to her,

shout out to UConn, shout out to the women's gang, and no one saw this coming, but UConn, I'm assuming. i think the thing is uh k mart is that people don't realize as a true freshman page beckers was the player of the year the injuries robbed her she can't she was in that class it was her it was a cait Clark. It was Angel Reese. It was Cardosa. They was all in the 2020 class. When Paige

got hurt, they didn't do what she did. But people don't realize how great Paige Beckers was prior to these injuries. Now, I think in order for her to go like, hey, when Rebecca Lobo and Sue Bird and sue bird and tarassi and

my more and stewie with all those in the fisha court when all those are sitting at the table page beckers get to pull up her chair now because that was the only thing that was missing on her resume game mark she had been player of the year she had gone to final fours the thing with uconn in order to be in that group, they hang banners. They hang banners. That's what them great players do. Started with Rebecca Lobo group, and then Sue Bird, and

Taurasi, and Tina Charles, and Maya Moore, and Stewie, and all of them, you gotta hang banners. Absolutely. She got it now. She pulled her chair. She pulled it up go ahead hey

I mean you know congratulations to UConn and what they've been able to do Gino winning his what number was this for him? 12th his 12th

championship but for the Lady Gamecocks what does Don what does Don Staley need to do or what does she need to come

inside that room to get back to get back to the top? You know, scoring, better players. Yeah, shooters. You're going to get everybody's best shot, man. Listen, when you got all of them All-Americans, man, they're just like UConn used to be. Tennessee was the haunted forever.

Right. USC was the haunted. UConn was the haunted. Now South Carolina is the forever. Right. USC was the haunted. UConn was the haunted. Now South Carolina is the haunted. Right. People, you're going to get them schools best shot every time you play it. Right? Yes, sir. It's bulletin board

material. They got all these All-Americans. They got all these McDonald's. They've been doing this. They do this. They got commercials. They that. They this. You get here and all this leading up to this game, and they just add fuel to this fire that you already got burning, that you want to go out and compete.

So you don't get that best shot, man. Like whatever she do, I'm pretty sure they're going to go back to the drawing board. Yeah. And they still a hell of a team, still a dynasty. But if you think about South Carolina, they got no star. They got no dominant player. And they made it to the championship game.

You look at Sarah Strong is a true freshman. She gave it 24 and 15. Azzy Fudd was an All-American. He's coming back. Paige Beckers was once College Player of the Year. She was there. So you got three big guns.

Look at Carolina. Carolina had one player in double-finger. Two players in double-finger. Off the bench. Your starters gave you 17, 19, 21. Your starters gave you 24 points on you. Sarah Strong outscored the starters by herself.

She had 24. Abby Budd, she had 24. Paige Beckers had an off night shooting the basketball, 5 of 14. She had 17 points. You're not going to win if one starter from the opposing team outscores your entire starting lineup. You're not going to win. The game is going to be lopsided like it was.

And I told my sister, look, my brother went to Carolina, so obviously we root for all things Carolina. I told my sister, I said, Libby, they went to South Carolina. Stop their 71-game win streak by damn near 30. You think they're going to beat this team on a neutral site? Right. No chance. Zero.

Well, I got one word for you. What is it? Portal. Oh. Dog and dog got to go to the portal. Hey, man, one thing, that portal real right now, Jack. Hey. I'm sure.

I know they got the boosters down. I know they got the boosters down in South Carolina. They can go get whoever they want. I'm telling you, they're going to bring that truck up to somebody. You got to pay. You got to pay to play. You got to pay to play these days, Jack. Yes, sir.

That's right. Go ask Nick Saban. Hey, man, listen. These kids can go wherever they want. Hey, hold on. It ain't just about football no more. I said, go ask Nick Saban. Nick Saban was like, hey, man, listen. I'm out. These kids can go wherever they, hey, hold on. It ain't just about football no more. Yeah, I'm out. Don Staley closed out our final presser thanking the local media.

You guys know our team. You're pretty fair with how you assess our basketball team. If every program had this, we could push women's basketball forward on a local level across the country. You see the difference? When her team lost, she didn't snap at no reporters. Was this good or bad?

She didn't do that. You know what? Class personified. You have to have the same level. You got to win with dignity. You lose with the same purpose. Absolutely. It ain't no, oh, oh, oh, how many Final Four have you been to?

Did your team make it this far? There was none of that. None of that. You see the difference? Yeah, we've been here before. We can't get her again. We've been here before and we're gonna get her again. Yeah, but Don, you're right. She's gonna have to go

in that portal and get some big guns, and I don't know what's out there. Maybe they can put a $3 million package and go get Juju. Hold on. $3 million? I'm going to take a little more than that.

The Pride Juju from USC? It's going to be like 10. I was just going to say 10 too. I got five. I can't give you 10. Hey, Don's going to push back. Don's going to say, hell, I don't make the three and a half. How you going to pay a triple what you

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run in the final 35 seconds of the ballgame to win 70-67. K-Mart, is this the greatest Final Four tournament comeback in NCAA history? For that amount of time, it's up there, man. It's up there.

Them boys, man, listen. And that's the beauty of having older guys. Yeah. Right? Everybody want these 19-year-old phenoms. They're great, cool. But when you don't get rattled and you've been there

and you've been battle-tested, and, yo, yo man that was a that was a pretty that was a great basketball game very good game that was that was a really really really really good basketball game well coached guys played they tell off man so

that I don't decide to tool in for that one Ocho yeah with a minute 27 seconds left they up seven. Man, I cut the TV off. I said, man, damn, dude gonna win this thing again. I know my homeboy

gonna call me and start effing with me. I said, man, you done got this. And so I let like 20 minutes go by. And then I go to my phone, ESPN.

No, I was on IG. And I see the get out face. The guy got the, he's like, I'm like, what? What are they talking about? And then I read the cool stunt of the Blue Devils. Yeah. I said, oh, I say, ain't no way.

Somebody, I said, there ain't no way. Man, I got the TV on and I see everybody just like going crazy. Crazy. What the hell happened? I got to rewind to go back. And the hell happened? So now I got to rewind and go back. And see what happened? I ain't got no inbound plays. Whatever. I be down. Okay,

boy. Listen, I know. That old brown eye got tight, right? Very tight. Hey, I know a lot of people lost money yesterday, Yonk, because I guarantee you everybody bet on Duke to win that game.

Yes. Hey, you know what reminds me of Kmart? You remember this game. When Reggie Miller shot the Knicks, you remember he hit that three? He stole the ball. The Houston guy got the ball in red right behind the three-point line and let it fly. And bam!

I'm like, oh my goodness. I'm watching this. I'm like, oh my God. Real time, man. Like, just couldn't get the ball up. Possession after possession. Like, they just kept the pressure on, man. They did. And they warmed back. And I ain't even been in the game, man.

And they was like, they get it to this point. It could be interesting. If they keep it right here, it could be this. And they did. Mm-hmm. And, yo. I thought a three and four also. To the right time.

Yeah. I thought also a time I came, Mark, you remember in the first half when Duke had that big lead and Houston hit three threes in a row to close out the first half. Okay? They stretched out to a big lead again. And here comes what you call a clawing back. I was like, damn.

But then when they got a minute 27, 64, 57, I said, man, y'all ain't finna do it. I said, y'all had a great run, Houston. I cut it off. See, the thing about, like, that minute and a half is an eternity in college basketball. As long. As long.

Right? It's an eternity. And when you guys, them freshmen, so you got a lot of young guys. You got some incoming freshmen. I mean, you got freshmen. You got some mixed with older guys. Them dudes ain't been in them pressure situations, man. Like, just haven't had to show up when the stakes are that high.

And I got to say, man, listen, Houston, them older dudes, man, them 22, 23, 24-year-old dudes, man. That's the thing. Because you look, when you look at Duke, look at all the number one overall draft picks that they have and didn't win

the national championship. It started with Elton Brand. You remember in 99, they lost to UConn. I think they had like four first-round picks that year, but Elton Brand was number one.

Kyrie went number one. Zion went number one. Bankero went number one. Bankero went number one. Flag gonna go number one. And they, none of them went number two. Huh? She bagged it. We told Marvin Bagley right there.

You think about it. When Zion went number one, I think RJ went number three. And number four, Cam Reddish. And you look at Kyrie, went number one. I think Kyrie and them got bounced in the second round. So it's like,

and Coach Greenberg says, yes, when you bring all this, it's nice because all these McDonald's All-American, you got the number one player, the number three player, the number five player,

the number 10 player, the number 12 player in an incoming class. Everybody have been the man on their squad. How do we get these guys to share, to realize in order for us to get where we want to go, you're not

going to be able to be the man no more. How did we saw that also with Kentucky? Look at Kentucky with all the time they had the John Walls and the Boogie Cousins and the Devin Bookers and the Shea Gildress and the Tyler Heros and the Carl Anthony Towns. Look at all those guys that they've had and didn't win the championship.

You won Super Bowls, huh? Yes. Winning is a learned behavior, man. Like you're not just showing up as a freshman or as a rookie learning how to win when guys have been practicing this or been working at this for years. Like, you're not just going to show up and be on campus for eight months thinking you're going to learn the totality of this game. You come to college as this phenom, but you're incomplete.

Like, your game and your knowledge for what you're trying to be is incomplete. Right. So you and you only on campus for eight months and then you're moving on. So you're not really learning everything you need to learn. And then you get in these pressure situations at the end of the year where you like you said, you've been a man. So that's all you know when it gets when the when the game get on the line it gets tough all you think to do is to put on your cake yes like i'm gonna put on my superman cake this is my time now right so and if you got five four or five guys

that used to put on that cake then you have these results so my thing is the older guys, man, guys that's been coached and bred and been cussed out and then had to get on the line for three years and then did this and then had to run because they didn't go to class and all that. You ain't figure out,

listen, them dudes hungry and they want it. I was listening to Cat, excuse me, Ant-Man, talking about when they got behind Serbia and they was down like 13 in the fourth quarter. He says, normally when I get into a situation like that, I'm putting that cape on. I'm going, hey, take this thing over. He said, but I watched Steph, I watched KD,

I watched LeBron swing the ball, dribble kick. And it was like, and the next thing you know, and when KD hit that three-pointer, who was that? Was that Book? I think it was either Book or KD hit a three-point shot and they got fouled. It was a four-pointer. KD said, yeah, I knew it was over from that point on. And you see

the thing is, because you got to realize now, those other guys you're going to get, they had capes on too. New guys in Houston, like K-Mart said, they're older guys, Ocho. They got the mile test. It averaged about five.

The fastest guy ran the mile in like 5'10". The slowest ran like 5'46". They averaged about 5'19". To put that kind of pressure on, you've got to have a tremendous amount of lung capacity

because they're pressuring you 94 feet every time you touch the ball. Yeah. Every time you touch the ball. And to keep that kind of relentless pressure on, kind of like Nolan Richardson used to have the 40 minutes of hell, K-Mart. 40 minutes of hell.

We're going to wear you down. Now, hey, you might get off, but hey, the last three minutes of the ball game when you got to think and you got to execute? Yeah. You got to deal with that. You got to deal with that. That old Amiibo press, baby. That old Amiibo press they used to throw on you, man.

No, no. It's battle tested. Yeah. You got Florida. You got Houston. Who you like, K-Martin, why? I'm going with them Texas boys, man. You going all things? Why I even ask you?

You going all things? If they have four players, you're like, hey. Over Florida? Yeah. K-Martin, man, he from Dallas. He going all things. Oh, yeah. Oh, man.

Hey, man, I'm from going on. Oh, man. Hey, man, from Oak Cliff, America, baby. I'm talking about. All right.

I'm going to let you have that. You want, hold on. You want to put something on it again? Like I said, make it light on yourself, dog. Listen, I don't turn down nothing but my color.

Hey, listen, man, you, it can be a dinner. I see you smoke stogies. I give you a stogie. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you smoke cigars too. Listen, man, whatever can be a dinner. I see you smoke Stogies. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa.

You smoke cigars? Listen, man, whatever you want to do, you make it light on yourself, bro. All right. Name your Stogie. Name your Stogie. So what it is, you name your Stogie, I name mine. You win, you name your Stogie. Right.

Okay, okay. I win, I name mine. Okay. Well, listen, make that a bet. I like Jeff. Jeff is joint. 70 Gauge Lunatic. will name mine. Okay. Well, listen. Make that a bet. I like this. 70 Gauge Lunatic. What you got? Okay.

I'm going all in. Listen. You're going to have to go to the bank with mine. Trust me. It ain't going to be... Oh, so... Oh, you're going to be searching. Oh, you're trying to get Aki with the bet.

That's what you want to do? It's a bet, right? Yeah. I said name yours. You name yours, I'm going to name mine. Hold on. I don't have to go to the bank to get nothing but no cigar because I got access to that.

So that's easy for me. I get them for free no matter what you're getting. My bad, Claire. Yeah, I'm just letting you know. My bad, Kelly. See, I try to keep it simple and just name one cigar. I want about 10 Lunatic 70 gauges, and I was going to call it a wrap. But you're trying to get spicy.

We can do that, too. You want to do some gangsta. Yeah. I already want to do it. Well, if I bet I want my cigar, hey, I want somebody to go plant the stalk in Cuba. Watch it grow. Harvest it. So real. You somebody to go plant the stalk in Cuba. Watch it grow. Harvest it. So, real.

You got to go grow one. I don't smoke the cigars. I'm going to let y'all have that one. So, the bet, Ocho, you want 10 70-gauge lunatic. Listen, I just want 10 70-gauge lunatics. Or, you know what? Matter of fact, I want 10 70-gauge lunatics, right? Yeah.

Listen to me now and i want 10 daniel marshall 24 karat gold cigars i will make the same bet then same real same bet okay okay matter of fact you smoke that daniel marshall that 24 karat gold cigars me but i haven't had it but you named it it, same bet. There it is. Hey, chat. Hey, chat. Do me a favor. In the chat, tell Kmart how much that Daniel Marshall 24-karat gold cigar is.

Kmart don't seem to concern himself with that. I would also say, listen, when and if I cross that bridge When we get to it Listen I already know I already know Florida gonna win I already know Florida gonna win So you might as well just put more of it in now I'm going with them old heads man I'm going with them old heads man They won't show up

Man they right down the road Do you know what this The Alamo don't. You know how many people finna be to come down I-10, man? Right. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I-35, you know, San Antonio, bro. You think Florida don't travel well? You don't think the people

from Gainesville travel well? They can't drive. Listen, man, they gonna have the highway. These cigars cost $300 a cigar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Hell no. my math was well my math was well okay my math was well okay I didn't make a show my math was well alright no pressure listen man hey man it's gonna be so much kugelred

in that joint man hey that don't mean that don't mean listen they got scabbard them tickets yo all

everybody else fans they leaving so they gonna a scab of them tickets. Everybody else, fans, they leaving. So they going to sell their tickets they bought to the final game. Right. All them Houston fans that couldn't get them on Ticketmaster, people was trying to do. Hey, they getting them things right now for two. Listen, for pennies on the dock. Hey, K-Mart, I'm going to throw in five when you win.

Go get my money, too, while you at it. I'm going to throw in five When you win Go get my money too While you at it I'm going to throw in five With them cigars Well damn Hold on man What you How you going to side bet

Ain't no side It's between me and him Don't I'm just saying When he wins I'm going to give him An extra five So he going to get my money

While he at it While he down there He going to get my money Nah Nah Nah Nah I'm going to mail it I'm not going to nah, nah, nah. I'm gonna mail it.

I'm not gonna see him in person. I'm gonna just mail it. Nah, hell no. Them Texas boys, man. Them boys all good, y'all. How do I ask you? Because I should have known. All things, all things Texas. All things Texas. Because he love them sorry-ass cowboys, Ocho.

We ain't even talking about them. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You like the cowboy suit? I'm bred Cowboys, Ocho. We ain't even talking about it. Time out, time out, time out, time out. You like the Cowboys, too? I'm bred in it, Ocho. I'm not one of them dudes that's from somewhere else. Listen, he's just going for team just because he's from the place and not being realistic about their chances of actually winning the game. Oh, no, I am realistic.

One thing about me, about this team, you got to listen to me. I'm realistic about it. Trust me. But I'm realistic about it. Trust me. No, I'm not one of them every year Lakers fans, every year Cavs fans. We're going to win. I'm not one of them, dog.

Trust me. We hired Schottenheim as a coach. Okay. Trust me. When we could have... Hey, the man out in D.C. was an excellent first. In a way, he should not have been our head coach.

How about you go with Kellen Moore? You want somebody that don't get me started with these dudes, man. Just because I'm... I was in high... You know, I've been out of high school a long time. See how it is, Greg? I've been out of high school a long time. This is the last time I went to the Super Bowl.

I skipped high school and went to the... Listen, I skipped school and went to the Super Bowl. I skipped high school and went to the Super Bowl parade, though. For real? And yes, they had to sit out the first half of the basketball game because they was looking for a pass. So, no,

I ain't rolling, man. I got Jake Time, CD, Fan, bro, but Michael Parson, I'm on the fence about that. I don't rolling, man. Like, I got Jake Time, CD, Fan, bro, but Michael Parsons, I'm on the fence about that. I don't know about it. I call him Dakota until he do something.

His name Dakota Rain. I don't call it that. You don't get names of me if you don't get it done, man. Right. Like, the dude's on the show, so we had to pick another team this year. I was going for LeBron and the Ravens, man.

Like, so, I was off the damn with this. Way, way back when they first started training camp. I'm going to tell you straight up. Right. They ain't did nothing significant. When they didn't sign Derrick Henry last year, I was off of him. I ain't going to even hold you. Well, listen, your owner, your position.

He got a place in Dallas. He traded Dallas. And I know the guy. I know the guy, he trained with my mind, like Melvin Sanders at Sanders Fit, where he work out at. I was Mel's first client. I know Mel well. Mel

was with me in Denver trying to, so I know these dudes well, and Mel was telling me off right, like, man, he trying to be here. I'm like, man, what's up with it? Your owner said he couldn't afford him. Man, then you go back and bring Zeke. Come on, man, what's up with it? Your owner said he couldn't afford him. Man, then you go back and bring Zeke. Come on, man.

Let's not do this. Let's not do this, man. Because trust me, dog. They could have threw one of us back there, man, and got more production. Babe, Ocho, I got artificial hips. I can't take no more hits. I ain't going to do that. I dig. You know what?

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Kareem couldn't do all this stuff. We're watching a guy who's doing things nobody's ever done before. It goes so far well beyond the skill with Jokic. It's the competitiveness. It's his intelligence. He's absolutely one of the smartest players ever. And you see it in so many different ways. K-Mart.

Somebody was saying, hold on. I forget who it was, but they said he wasn't a top 20 player yet. Where do you have Nikola Jokic ranked? Because he's top 20 for me. If he ain't top 20, do away with the whole, whoever ain't the top 20, I'm throwing everybody out. If Nikola Jokic reign? Because he's top 20 for me. If he ain't top 20, do away with the whole, whoever in the top 20, I'm throwing everybody out.

If Nikola Jokic, I'm talking about right now, if he's not top 20, I don't know what the hell we talking about. Right. I want them to name... Wait, before you answer, K-Mart, hold on. Top 20 all time? All time.

All time. All time in the history, in the 78-year history of the NBA. Noly Jokic is a top 20 player as we sit here. He's still playing. So is LeBron. So is LeBron and Steph Curry. Okay, go ahead.

Answer. I'm just curious. Go ahead, K-Mark. Them two dudes, you can't talk about the history of the game within the last and not mention dudes. You can't, yo, man, you can't talk about the history of the game within the last and not mention him. You just

can't. So, if you talk about, so if we do it by positions, right? We give you by position. Yes, sir. You go, well, just not team performance. You're talking about individual dominant performance, not

you go, well not you go Wilt you go Hakeem you go Shaq he's next in line man you taking him over Kareem I forgot about Kaep my bad he's fit he's the fifth best center

of all time right now just from got three MVPs what he's doing going after the triple double all this I forgot about Cap. My bad. He's fit. He's the fifth best center of all time right now. Just from the three MVPs, what he's doing, going after the triple-double, all this. Right. Potentially win another one.

He's going to win another MVP, maybe two before he's done, maybe another championship. This puts him... Yeah, top five center of all time right now, man. So you... Some of these other guys, man, you... Yeah, I'm... of all time right now, man. So you, some of these other guys, man, you, yeah. If he's not top 20, he's 21. If you're not top 20, he's 21.

All right, I like it. Top 25, like if you want to take five guards, five point guards, five shooting guards, five small guards, five shooting guards, five small forwards, five power forwards, five centers, top 25 best NBA players of all time, he's top 25. He's the fifth best center of all time. So I would put him at, right now he's still playing, I'd put him at fifth. He's as good as I've ever seen.

I think the thing where people knock him is because of his deep, because all the guys that you mentioned played deep. All the guys that you mentioned had made at least one, some multiple, all defensive teams. Now, they didn't have that. They didn't have all defensive teams when Wilt Chamberlain, because Wilt had a game where he had 24 blocks. So, I mean, his numbers, I mean, we got to do something.

We just got to sit Wilt aside. So, the 150-point, 50-point games, ain't nobody ever touching that. Yeah. You're never going to do that. Nobody's going to ever average 50 points a game for a season. What a footage of Wilt's 100-point game. You seen the footage? No, there ain't no footage.

You just got the box score. Yeah. So, do you look at... Yeah, I'm with you. So, the 100 points, the 20,000 women, all of that. Nah, the 20,000 was to sell that book. Yeah, absolutely.

Damn sure sell. So, my thing about Nikola, right, it's not the defensive end. He's a top three in steals, right? But that's one thing. But if you look at it, Ankins and Oates, look at when the games are on the line, right? Like the other day, that Minnesota game the other day, right? Yeah.

The 60-point trip of that game. Of all the things he was asked to do offensively that game, when the game was on the line, both overtimes, this, that, and the third, watch him move his feet defensively when they asked him to go out and double Anthony L. It's little things like that that I look at, right? When the game is on the line,

he can move his feet. He's great. I ain't going to say he's Draymond Green defensively when the game is on the line, but you're going to get an honest effort out of him. He's going to implement the game plan, whatever you tell him to go out and do

with all the efficiencies that he has defensively. give me that effort that he displays when it's winning time every time. Because, like Steve Kerr said, his competitive nature kicks in.

You say he can't do something, I'm going to try my best not to have Anthony Edwards turn this corner. Listen, but this is a funny thing about it. Now, as great as he is offensively, and what he can do offensively, in the post, mid-range, from three, he's a liability on defense. I don't care how hard he tries.

No, no, no. Yeah, if he's going up against Joe Allen Bede, he's probably a liability on defense. But the question is, who do you have on the offensive end that's going to punish him like he's going to punish your guy on the defensive end?

So when he has to play defense, who's the guy that's going to go at him and put 40 on his head like he's going to put 40 on your guy's head? Yeah. And then he's going to get

a double-digit assist, so now that's another 20 to 30 points. Right. And he's going to get a double-digit assist. So now that's another 20 to 30 points. Right. And he's going to get, I mean, think about this. He's going to average a triple-double for a season. As a big. He's shooting 58% from the floor.

He's shooting 42% from three. That's crazy. Think about it. You understand? Somebody that shoots that many 80 from the line. You understand? Somebody that shoots that many shots from the outside. I ain't talking about

a guy that just lays the ball up and dunks it. Right. Think about how many shots he takes outside of the paint and he's shooting damn near 58% Ocho. That's crazy, boy.

And 42% from the three. Mm-hmm. If you shoot 40 percent from the three, you'll make a lot of money. You shoot 37 percent. Okay, 37 percent. You shoot 40 percent, they look at you as an elite shooter.

You shoot 42 percent, you are. I mean, that's what I was in high school. Doosley, the league, shoot 41, 42 percent from that three. And you got a center out here doing it. in high school. Doosley. Doosley, the league shooting 41%, 42% left. Yes. And you got a center

out here doing it. A center. John Moran, Spencer Haywood told TMZ that John's ruining his career. He said, the people that are around him

are not advising him right. He's ruining his career. He's ruining his family's lives and his team, most importantly. He's letting all of them down. So I'm just disappointed in Ja. K-Mart, you're an elder statesman.

You were the voice of reason a lot of times. Sometimes you was unreasonable in the locker room. But if you had a young guy like Ja, immensely talented, and he keeps doing this kind of stuff, what would you say to him, K-Mart? Yeah, that's the honest conversation, man. Like, you got to, for one, you got to have a rapport with him outside of basketball.

Oh, yeah. Right? That's first and foremost. You got to be able to relate to him on some level. So once you have that and you establish that, it's,

it's being honest with him man but at some point words words are not enough and in this situation unfortunately I'm starting to see that words and certain things don't matter

no matter who's in his locker room I think that's why they bought Marcus Smart in right initially to try I think that's why they brought Marcus Smart in, right? Initially, to try to be that. Marcus Smart has had some hiccups. He's been feisty. He's been that in the NBA. To try to be that. But when your immediate surroundings

and immediate family are not helping the situation. There's nothing that me as a vet can do or say because I only have you for a certain amount of time during the day. I'm not going to follow you home. I'm not going to hold your hand. We don't live together.

So we're not living in the same complex. We're not doing these things. I can do everything in my power, but once you leave and once you're around your guys and your family, sometimes those people have more influence than the guys who you should be looking up to or you should be looking for that influence.

Unfortunately, in this situation, that's what it is. You know, K, when it comes to players like this players of this magnitude players that are this good players like this that have

a certain type of individuals around them most of the time we call them we call them yes men I mean let me just say what it is

you got a bunch of dudes around you that are not going to tell you what you want to hear and uh don't nobody want to get their water cut off as I call it, you know?

So I think somebody has to be an elder statesman that's part of the NBA that conducted themselves somewhat in a similar manner that John looks up to when he was younger, that played. Now, maybe they could get through to him and get him to understand, you know, the NBA is not against you you know there's certain things that you got in trouble for in the past so there's certain things you can't do or you can't get away with based on past behaviors that's all yes other players in nba might be doing you know the little gestures or whatever but they also haven't had issues with doing anything or brandishing weaponry outside of

the game of basketball. So it's different. So you held to a different standard. You've got to understand that. Who the OG? Who the OG in the streets? I don't say AI. No, I'm talking about the OG, the real OG in the

streets in Memphis. Y'all go to John and say, John, cut this bull jive out. See, they in these streets because we have to be. You pretending. What we do, this real over here. But I'm trying to, who is he trying to impress? Because me personally, I don't think John hood. I don't think John bought that life.

That looks good. He do. I mean, he went life. That looks good. He do... I mean, he went... That look good. I mean, the people are like, oh, man, y'all not like that. I know people that are like that, that'll lay it down like that, but he ain't him. You work your whole... K-Mart,

you say you from Oak Cliff. You worked your whole life to get out of that environment. Why would you get out of that environment and then try to prove that you still down? No, I'm not down. That ain't me. We not. No, I'm not down. Nope.

Nope. I live all day. Hey, the Lord blessed me beyond blessed. He helped me get out of that situation. And then I'm still going to pretend. I ain't saying you can't have no firearm to protect yourself. Yeah. He helped me get out of that situation. And then I'm still going to pretend. I ain't saying you can't have no, no firearm to protect yourself. Yeah. But it's the people that,

it's the people that you don't think got no firearm that are set fire to you. See, the thing is, it's one thing of having, it's one thing that people that's with me use. Two totally separate conversations, right? And,

and the city that he lives in, they about that thing, man. They about it. Yeah, a lot. Yeah, they are... We all know this, man. So... Yeah.

And I put this... So I said this on Guilds and Reno, man, and I've spoken to said person who I'm about to mention right now since I've said this. I put a lot of this on T. Moran. I put a lot of this behavior on him. Okay, you want to let your child grow up.

Cool. He's a professional athlete now. Cool. You want to give him a little leeway, a little rope to be him, to find himself, to do all these things. Yes, absolutely. But when it's become detrimental to his career and his brand, who he is, we got to re-evaluate some things, son. We got to go

back to the drawing board, son. We can't do these things, son. I can't be at the game behaving this way, son. I got to move different, son, so we can do... All of these things they have to do collectively to change people's images on Ja, the family, the Grizzlies, all of these things they have to do collectively to change people's images on Ja, the family,

the Grizzlies, all of them. It has to be a collective effort. Because if not, like we all know, the only thing we respect as athletes

is playing time and money. Yeah. Yeah. And these little slap on the wrist and this, that, and the third, like, I tell people all the time

man and God rest David Stern's soul if this was David Stern's NBA yeah none no he make an example out of

you're not gonna make a mockery of this this logo you're not gonna continue to make a mockery of this even as great even as great as he is? Man, that man, that man.

You don't care nothing about that. Don't care. You're not bigger than that logo, man. You're not, as y'all say, the shield, right? No one is bigger than y'all's shield, right? Right. David Stern carried that NBA logo the same as the NFL shield. You're not bigger than that.

He would have made an example out of John. Listen, this man told me the words out of his David Stern's mouth to my ears. Son, if you want to continue to be a part of this NBA, you will change your ways. And this was me fighting on the floor. This had nothing about firearms. We didn't

trouble them. This was just me fighting on the floor and giving me this warning. So what do you think the message would have been for this situation with this kid? I don't care about your talent level. K, you was in the league and you remember everybody used to wear the

baggy pants and had the tall tees and David started saying, y'all gonna clean this issue up. He said, we got too much money at stake. Sponsors, advertisers, this is over. No. This man put in a dress code, dog. yeah because dudes was coming to the game and throwback jerseys been wearing throwback jerseys she put in a dress code right hey hey k-boy i got about 70 of them right that's come on man we got no so it's

it's a lessons need to be learned in this current situation with dudes. Right. Recently. The whole gun thing, they fine you 75, and you come back and you post pink you. Like. Yeah. K-Mart, it ain't enough, man. Like, you got to, somebody got to step in. I hope, I hope, I hope Ja figures it out. Because he doesn't realize how much money he's, like, actually costing himself. With this, I mean, you know, hey, yeah, he has the Nike deal. figures it out because he doesn't realize how much money he's like actually costing himself with this.

I mean, you know, hey, yeah, he has the Nike deal, but Nike is not only brand that pays money. They have so many other brands that he's missing out on so many more, so many opportunities. He, a lot of times, a lot of people thought he could be the face of the NBA. Yeah. Charismatic, the way he can play the game. He's a small guy, and the NBA loves small guys.

They love guards. Absolutely. And he has it. And I just don't know why he wants to perpetuate this type of behavior. But to each his own. K-Mart, thanks for joining us. Hey, guys, everybody do us a favor. Go follow K-Mart on IG. K-Mart, what for joining us. Hey, guys, everybody do us a favor. Go follow K-Mart on IG.

K-Mart, what's your IG handle? Everything K-Mart Senior, man. You know what I'm saying? It's K-Mart Senior, everything. IG. Twitter. Facebook. K-Mart Senior, baby.

Hey, you can watch him. Hold on. Before you go, right? Hey, K-Mart, I'm going to throw something else in on that bet. I'm going to throw something else in it. Hey, listen. LeBron James, you know when he hit 50,000 points, he gave me the ball. The actual ball that went in when he hit the points, if Houston beats Florida, I send you the ball.

I promise you. Put that in there there so you already know how much this shit worth what you laughing at look you know what I want that gold jacket that you wrote

H-O-L for that you put on the sideline that's the jacket I want that hey I'm still you ain't got no more I'm looking for it that's 101

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