Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Ja'Marr not negotiating, McCaffrey placed on IR, AP ordered to surrender assets

Episode Date: September 15, 2024

Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss Ja'Marr Chase having no plans to negotiate his contract this season. Then, Unc and Ocho weigh-in on Christian McCaffrey being placed on injured re...serve. Later, Unc and Ocho react to Adrian Peterson selling off assets for debt collection.03:10 - Robert kraft is pissed that Jerry Is in HOF11:10 - Ja’Marr chase contract15:10 - Christian Mcaffrey hurt25:20 - Adrian Peterson is in debt of 12 million45:56 - Kyler Murray on Marvin Harrison Jr53:20 - Lil Wayne responds to SB snub01:03:45 - Que and Aye(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:37 Issued as one bonus bet based on amount of initial losing bet. Bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. See dkng.com slash promos for deposit wagering and eligibility restrictions terms and responsible gaming resources ocho ocho ocho what happened what happened patriot's owner robert craft is pissed off that cowboys owner jerry jones is in the Hall of Fame and he's not. Kraft, who is still yet to be enshrined in Canton, reacted to Jones' induction in 2017 with anger and confusion. This is due to his belief that it meant Jones was being given credit over him for the NFL's explosion into the multi-billion dollar empire.
Starting point is 00:03:25 At the time Jones induction, Kraft reportedly told a friend he hasn't been to an NFC title game in two decades. And he gets in? How does that work? Oh, they beefing. The billionaires beefing. I like that. I like that. But listen, I understand where Mr. Kraft
Starting point is 00:03:41 is coming from. It has been two decades, hasn't it? The most recent. 28 years. Is it seven? Is it seven times Super Bowl champion? Who that? Mr. Kraft.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Six. Six? Yeah. Tom has seven, but he got another one with Tampa. So it's six. That's right. That's right. Tommy gone.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I mean, listen, if anyone should be enshrined in that Hall of Fame for what they've done to turn that program, excuse me, that franchise around, it should be Mr. Graff. Yeah. Because Jerry is still living on what was done in the past a long, long time ago. Yeah. Long, long, long, long, long, long time ago. I agree.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Rightfully so. It is the Cowboys. The star on the helmet does sell itself as opposed to the red, white, and blue down there in Foxborough. It happens. I mean, you know the thing is, Ocho, and people are like, well, I don't know what. Yeah, it happens. I mean, I know guys that when some guys get in and they don't,
Starting point is 00:04:40 they're like, bro, I went to this many Pro Bowls, I'm this many first-team All-Pro, I did this, X, Y, and Z. How such and such? Like, bro, bro, I went to this many Pro Bowls. I'm this many first team All-Pro. I did this X, Y, and Z. How such and such. Like, bro, hell, I ain't vote. I get it. I'm going to hear your voice. I'm going to let you vent. And this is what I always tell. This is what I tell people.
Starting point is 00:04:57 When they want you to get in, ain't nothing you've done can keep you out. When they don't, they'll change the rules to keep your ass out yeah yeah and I'm gonna leave it at that because I still want my brother to get in so I ain't gonna say too much but I just be but
Starting point is 00:05:13 y'all know y'all know y'all know T.O. should have been a first ballot man got the what the third but he got the third the third most touchdown catches probably like the third most yards he's three men have ever been first team all pro on three different teams. Three. Two of them were first ballot Hall of Famers.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Ted Hendricks, the stork. Primetime. And Terrell Owens. Three men in the history of the NFL. In the history. The NFL been playing football since 1920 the real deal and y'all say no
Starting point is 00:05:50 no that's the game man politics baby politics I think that look and look everything everybody says they're gonna use you know the situation. I hate him bringing it up, but people like, okay, what transpired? The video evidence showed that he went in there X, Y, and Z,
Starting point is 00:06:14 and then they say, well, hold on. You was the owner of one of the biggest scandals in NFL history. People was like, well, if you don't, if you didn't know, you should have known. I don't believe he knew. Coach Belichick ain't sharing that information. Ain't nobody knew,
Starting point is 00:06:32 but Coach Belichick and them damn coaches. Because that's why, guess what happened? When one of them left and went to the team that I played for, he brought that same
Starting point is 00:06:42 bull job there. And Mr. B got it, you know what up out of there. He took that over that same bull job there. And Mr. B got his you-know-what up out of there. He took that over to London, and they caught it, and Mr. B said, oh, no. Oh, no. Ain't no second chance. Say, hey, we're sorry. Apologize. No, you got to go. Got to go.
Starting point is 00:06:57 So that's who knew about it. And, you know, if you remember, he tried to do it to the Jets. Eric Mangini, he said, hey, Bill, you know that thing you do? I'm going to keep my mouth shut. Just don't do it to me. Ocho, me and you used to rob banks. I said, but Ocho, you know what?
Starting point is 00:07:18 Ocho, I'm going straight. As a matter of fact, Ocho, I'm going to invest my money. I got me a bank. Now, I know you rob banks, Ocho, but just don't hit your boy. Guess what you say? I'm going to hit your stuff on Friday at noon. Oh, no, okay, you are. Hey, guess what?
Starting point is 00:07:35 We'll have a bank robbery at noon on Friday. He's going to be driving a such and such. He's going to be wearing this. What you want me to do? I was going to be wearing this. What you want me to do? I was going to keep my mind. You mean to tell me you that cavalier? Yeah. That I said, I'm going to keep my mind shut. You continue to do what you do.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Just don't do it to me. Right. What? Hey, Ocho, that man said, later for you. I would do it to you. Okay. Because think about it. If Coach Mangini don't tell,
Starting point is 00:08:13 they're not stopping. Name the person that stopped something. Just say, you know what? I've had a John Q moment. I've had a change of heart. I don't want to do this no more. I know it's wrong. So I'm just stopping out of the kindness because've had a change of heart. I don't want to do this no more. I know it's wrong. So I'm just stopping out of the kindness because that's the type of person that I am.
Starting point is 00:08:30 It don't stop. You feel more and more emboldened to do it. Because. Right. Oh, no. So, yeah, it's tough because I like I like Mr. Craft. I don't know how much time you spent around him when you was there. But yeah, it's tough. Because I like Mr. Craft. I don't know how much time you spent around him when you was there.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Yeah, he's cool. Real cool. Real cool. He's always, he goes out of his way anytime he sees me. And, you know, I'm talking, he always tells me, hey, I love what you're doing. I can tell you study. I can tell you do your homework. You're great.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I really appreciate it. I know your parents. Your grandma is really proud of you. He's always giving me my flowers. And he's like, hey, he said, I understand you got a job to do. And he's like, you do a damn good job, too. So he'd give you his credit. So I've always, you know, and for the most part, Ocho, all the owners,
Starting point is 00:09:20 when I've been, you know, at the Super Bowl and go to their functions, they, you know, hey, they know I got a job to do. I don't really know you well enough personally to attack you personally. I'm talking about your team. And it just so happens you own that team. So you know what? You're kind of like collateral
Starting point is 00:09:39 damage. You know what I'm saying? Hey, because that's how you know with your family. Hey, you're talking about my brother. You're talking about me. That's my brother. What the hell you think I'm supposed to do? Like be happy with you? Even if you're telling the truth, I still ain't gonna like it. So, yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 00:09:56 But, I mean, come on. I mean, what else can he do? He's on the committee. He's on the TV committee. The man won six Super Bowls I get it but even after let's just say for the sake of argument
Starting point is 00:10:13 you say you know what you won those three you won the first three doing that hell they won three more since what did that tell you and they went to what they went to five they won three most since. What'd that tell you? And they went to what? They went to five. They won three. Damn.
Starting point is 00:10:30 No, hell no. Hell, let me take that back. They went to, no, they won three. They lost three because they lost to the Giants twice and they lost to Philly. But they won three. The Nick Foles play, yeah. Yeah. So I do think Mr. Craft is very, very deserving
Starting point is 00:10:52 of being placed into the Football Hall of Fame. Absolutely. Absolutely. Jamar Chase says he's not planning to renegotiate a long-term deal with the Bengals this season. He reportedly believes the team misled him during the offseason as he sought a new deal. Per Shepter, Adam Shepter, who came in with me, he and I were both rookies.
Starting point is 00:11:14 He was a rookie reporter. I was a rookie wide receiver. Chase claimed the Bengals told him following the 2023 season and during his past offseason that extension would be coming. That did not happen, and the team ultimately only picked up his fifth-year option with season salary jump $1.1 million this season and to a fully guaranteed $21.8 million in 2025. At the same time, Chase watched other wide receivers around the league
Starting point is 00:11:41 got paid, just got paid. Oh, A.J. aj brown three years 96 million 33 a year cd lamb four years 136 uh brandon iu four years 120 um amos ross st brown four years 120 chase teammate justin jefferson four years 140 among others Tyreek got a new deal Jalen Waddle Devante
Starting point is 00:12:12 Smith Chase still has two years remaining on his rookie deal he'll have one year left after this season and if I'm not mistaken it said the stalemate got to the point where Chase reportedly took out a 50 million dollar insurance policy on himself for the season to protect against
Starting point is 00:12:27 possible injury or any potential loss of salary. Damn. Hey, man, it's, you know, I just... The business is ugly, man. Yeah. That's why I hate the business side of things.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I know a lot of people in the chat will say, you know, he signed a contract. You have to honor that contract. They don't honor him. Yeah, they don't honor him at all. I understand. How did that honor contract work for him? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. How did that contract
Starting point is 00:13:00 work for him? Yeah. Yeah. So many examples, though. So many examples. You know know you got to strike while it's hot you got to strike while it's hot now i know he has two years left on his deal when we talk about a special play cut players all the time with two years left hell they'll cut it with three years left yeah all the time i i it's just i would want my best offensive weapon outside of my quarterback. I would want him happy. Yeah, I absolutely agree.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Knowing how good he is, knowing what he's done for you, knowing what he can do and will do in the future, I would just want him happy. Because, I mean, it's just going to get even more expensive the following year anyway. Oh, yeah. He's like, I want to, you know, he probably wanted if, what did Chase get? Chase
Starting point is 00:13:47 got, I mean, Jefferson got what, 35 a year? Yeah, 35 a year. He gonna say, I won't fold it. Damn 36 a year, I won't fold it. Hey, whatever you got to do, man. Yeah, I'm curious. And I want to tweet.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I'm curious to see the game tomorrow and just watch his body language watch his body language and that will tell us all that will tell us all that's been a huge distraction not just for the team but for Jamar
Starting point is 00:14:22 and I thought I'm not sure if Joe burrow has that power just yet most of the time your quarterback can go up and intervene with great understanding if we're serious about what we're trying to do it's only right we pay our best receiver our best receiver that's going to be here you know for the long haul yeah who's a viable target and the reason for my success the past two, three years. It's crazy. I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Guys in contract. Oh, my hamstring. Oh, my calf. The 49ers are placing Christian McCaffrey on injury reserve. McCaffrey calf tightness and Achilles tendonitis
Starting point is 00:15:02 led to the decision. Kyle Shanahan told reporters that McCaffrey will be absent Sunday after not practicing Friday. Kyle added that the player had his worst day, the most pain at Thursday's practice. This means the reigning offensive player of the year will miss at least the next four games and won't be eligible to return until week six
Starting point is 00:15:22 when the 49ers are slated to play Thursday night against the Seattle Seahawks, which he probably won't come back then because I'm going to give him an extra 10 days off Ocho because if he missed that, he can be make sure he's really, really healthy. I think Kyle had a joke that's like
Starting point is 00:15:41 those people, the fantasy that drafted him, they probably should start doing some heavy drinking. Hey, listen, they're going to be fine. If I'm not mistaken, I think the backup name is Jordan Mason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The way he looked in week one, you know, with Christopher Caffrey being out. Man, listen, they're going to be fine. They're going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:16:04 I think the production will still be there the next four weeks or next five weeks whenever McCaffrey decides to come back and he'll pick up right where he left off. The offensive line is phenomenal, man. Oh yeah, for sure. The offensive line is phenomenal and I think what they were able to do with Kyle Shanahan was able to do
Starting point is 00:16:19 some of the creativity that he used to use McCaffrey in. He's putting Debo in that spot. Yeah. He's putting debo in that spot yeah he's putting on that spot debo was in the backfield you know ran a few ran a few dive plays you a few stretch plays you know a few plays out the backfield so he's going to get that that same offensive production from somewhere and just different in different ways well that's why that's why look bobby turner who's the running back coach if there there's a Shanahan on your team, be it Mike or Kyle, Bobby Turner's going to be the running back coach.
Starting point is 00:16:47 I've known Bobby 30 years. Like I said, know his wife, Kim, knew all the girls. As a matter of fact, I was just out here a couple of – I was in Vegas a couple of months ago, and one of his daughters was out here and stopped by with Shelly. Shelly was out here, and she stopped by the room, and we talked for like two hours. She's like, oh, I got to go. But they're great.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I love Bobby T. He's my guy. Just love Crack Joe's with him. All the coaches was great that Mike brought in. But Ocho, it's really simple in that system, as a running back in that system. You get one cut, ain't no dancing. Alex Gibbs say, hey, you ain't on
Starting point is 00:17:32 the dance floor. All that duking, ain't none of that. You put your right foot in the dirt, you put your left foot in the dirt, and you get your ass down here. And if somebody hits you in the backfield, I'm going to find out who it is, and I'm going to put my foot in his ass, and he ain't going to be on the... I tell you what.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Man, me and Allen used to go at it. He's like, you want to catch passes? You got all the muscles. I said, Alex, these muscles ain't for football. What the hell you talking about? These ain't muscles ain't for football. Oh, you think I live all this way from football?
Starting point is 00:18:05 Oh, no. Oh, no. But it was great. But you're right. Kyle is going to find a way to scheme him up. He's going to get him in that zone, and because they can run the football so well, guess what? Debo and IU can kill. They're going to be running
Starting point is 00:18:21 Scott and Free because they're going to drop that safety down because they got to get that eighth guy in the box. They're going to run. You try to play cover two. they're going to be running Scott and Free because they're going to drop that safety down because they got to get that eighth guy in the box. They're going to run you try to play cover two. They're going to run you up out of it. That's what I tell TD all the time. TD, run their ass out of cover two. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:37 TD! Hey, offensive line, get him to the line of scrimmage. Our job was to get TD to the line of scrimmage oh that's all we got to do our job was to get TD to the line of scrimmage my job a lot of times I'm backside is to make sure that in don't put his helmet in TD hip
Starting point is 00:18:55 I got you now run him up out of it now when they drive now we finna cook okay now I got crystal Joe I'm cooking with grease ain't none of that nonstick nah Now we finna cook. Okay, now I got Chris told, yo. I'm cooking with grease. Ain't none of that Pam. Ain't none of that nonstick. Nah, I'm finna cook.
Starting point is 00:19:09 And we run them up out of it. And now all of a sudden, TD got 150. John done passed for 250. I got like 70. TD got, Rod got like 85. It got, yeah, that's how we do it. We gonna run you out. Play cover two if you want to. We run your ass up out of it. We get going to run you out. Play cover two if you want to.
Starting point is 00:19:25 We run your ass up out of it. We get you out of cover two. You're not going to stop us with no seven-man box. Ain't no way. It ain't happening. No way, no how. And we get that ball with four minutes to go, and we go double tight. Y'all not getting the ball back.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I sure hope y'all got a lead. Because if you don't, you ain't getting the ball back to get one. Oh, no. Mm-mm. Mm- Because if you don't, you ain't getting the ball back to get one. Oh, no. Mm-mm. Ain't happening. It ain't happening. Ooh, got a sad story, Ocho. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:19:53 When y'all went double tight, who was on the other side of you? Carswell. Called him House. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay. Oh, yeah. We running. Hey, we coming.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Hey, guess what? We running it. And what you you gonna do? You gonna stop it. Can't. Sharp, you too light. Don't worry about me. Stop it, man. I'm too light. Stop it. You can't stop it.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I bet you don't make no tackle. Well, Portis used to run that thing so smooth, man. That stretch. Yeah. Bend it, bend it, bend it, hold bend it hold it hold it hold it and then hit that foot in the ground that's it that's it that's the only job we had to make
Starting point is 00:20:34 backside is to make sure the running back knows because he's gonna be hesitant he take that helmet to the hip he's gonna be hesitant to come back there he needed to know. Smooth sailing. Hey, ain't no rough waters back.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Ain't no choppy waters back here, bro. You good. Right, right. Hey, that's it. Line, get him to the line of scrimmage. Once he break the line of scrimmage, Rod, Ed, knock people off him down the field. Hey.
Starting point is 00:21:02 That's all. Hey, we're going to make you a chaser not a pursuer you say hey do you tell people hey pursue to the ball nah we will chop that up we will make you a chaser you have to chase the ball because your ass gonna be in a chase position not in the pursuit oh yeah oh we had that thing
Starting point is 00:21:18 down to a science yeah because you don't want to be that one because they're gonna put that film on oh yeah they're gonna put that film on oh Allison put that film on. Oh, yeah. You don't want that. Oh, they're going to put that film on. Oh, Allison put that film on you. 84, what you doing here? Hey, I remember them days, boy. Man, I'm like, bro, hold on.
Starting point is 00:21:40 I know I ain't the only one that missed the block. So I'm the only one that missed the block. So hold on. I'm going to be thinking like, you know missed the block. So I'm the only one that missed the block. So hold on. I'm going to be thinking like, Ocho, you know you messed up. So I already know. I say, I know ain't no way in hell. Out of 65 plays,
Starting point is 00:21:54 I'm the only mofo that missed the block. Because I already know they're going to put my stuff on there. I don't even care now. Now I got to the point because every week they're going to put my stuff up on the board. I don't care. 84. You watching.
Starting point is 00:22:09 How many tickets you buy? Well, you should have bought a couple of books. Man, F you, Alex. Man, I'm telling you. Also, that was... And you don't want to let your... You don't want to let your peer... Because a lot of times you can get away with stuff
Starting point is 00:22:26 because they doing their job. They don't know you done effed up. And then it's one thing to eff up, it's another thing to give piss poor effort. That's what, oh, man. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:22:42 But those were the, oh, could I be, no, oh, I got him good. I'd be done coming back to the home. Oh, ooh, I can't wait till they show the film on Wednesday, because I cooked some, oh, I cooked him. Oh, yeah. Because I felt better on a block than I did on the past, because they expect, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:22:59 don't you? They expect me to win on the past. But when I time one of them, one of them on D-line went up. Yeah, and they can't get off? I'm tied him up, Ojo. I'm tied him up. They don't have to make me. Man, you ain't nothing but old
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Starting point is 00:24:33 and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen.
Starting point is 00:24:56 What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
Starting point is 00:25:53 No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
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Starting point is 00:27:11 things he believed in, his own sense of conviction. Those convictions never wavered. Hosted by Muhammad's wife, Lani Ali, and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster, John Ramsey, Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence
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Starting point is 00:28:09 Adrian Peterson, who earned more than $100 million during his 15-year NFL career, he now faces a debt in excess of $12 million, and he's been ordered to turn over his assets to pay for it. According to the USA Today, a Houston judge has ordered AP to surrender property to satisfy for it. According to the USA Today, a Houston judge has ordered AP to surrender property to satisfy the debt. Constables have been ordered
Starting point is 00:28:30 to seize assets from his home. A court-appointed receiver has accused Peterson of playing a shell game in order to avoid payment. Ocho. Ocho.cho man AP bro you made
Starting point is 00:28:51 100 million and then he borrowed I think he borrowed like 5 million in like 2 years the interest so when you borrow money like that you gotta play like 20-25% interest Ocho so it went from five million to like eight million in three years it might be 50 interest oh oh joe but then you throw a birthday party
Starting point is 00:29:14 and you fly everybody i wish i might have a birthday party and i fly y'all in to come to my party where they do that at he got camels he got tigers you thought he was talking for real man it's listen i you you know how i am the chat know hell the goddamn world know how i am when it come to finances. And I don't play that. I don't play that. Listen, him being in this situation is very unfortunate. I wish him well and hoping everything turns out in his favor. I'm not sure how this
Starting point is 00:29:56 works. He owe 12 million. And from the looks of it, he ain't got it. I hope so. I hope he does I hope he has some I hope he has some how you take out a loan
Starting point is 00:30:11 to throw yourself a birthday party you better hey you better go down there and get about five or six dozen crabs and some shrimp and say here you go who takes out a loan to throw themselves a birthday party unless you're what?
Starting point is 00:30:29 Trying to impress the party goers. I don't know. That's crazy, man. A hundred? Damn, man. Ocho, how you... Ocho how you Ocho you throw a birthday party and you bring in what he flying
Starting point is 00:30:50 300 people 300 guests he flew in 300 guests I don't know 300 people if I'm 56 I don't know 300 people and I damn sure don't know enough of people to fly their ass to a miles
Starting point is 00:31:06 in. Man, you think I know 300 buckets or 300 burns? Hell no. That's messed up, man. He flew in 320 people. Ocho, check this out, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Yeah. But guess how he flew him? First class. Oh, oh. Is there any way, oh, can't he just file bankruptcy? Hey, if you ain't got no money, it's hard to file bankruptcy
Starting point is 00:31:43 if you ain't got no money. Because guess what? Your credit going to be shot. So what you gonna put up it what you gonna put up for collateral? And I mean Like the more the more people you say, hey, can we get this? You know what women you say what I'm gonna get it with ass and mouth we ain't got no money what i'm gonna pay with it for what i'm gonna pay with it what am i going to pay to get what you're asking for so if he doesn't have the thing is the best thing to have if you don't have money is to have great credit you can have f-Duck credit if you got money. You see how that works? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:27 But enough people don't care. And think about it. Anytime you try to buy something, what are they going to do? They're going to pull them credit scores. Credit scores? Equifax, Empyrean. What's the other one? Experian. So at this point in general, you just have to-
Starting point is 00:32:43 They got three of them. Now, some might be a little higher than the other one but i feel very good mine all start with eight i ain't gonna tell you what else they got you know what comes after that but i feel back to my all three of mine start with eight right but okay and but i but i i got a little bit of money i ain't saying i'm the richest man in the world but i got great credit and I do have a little cash, but I, I'm, I'm not,
Starting point is 00:33:08 I'm not doing anything to impress anybody. I'm not buying no, no $10 million home. I'm not buying no, no million dollar car. I'm not buying blind people in. Oh, Oh,
Starting point is 00:33:21 I used to have a party in Glenville. Hey, y'all could drive in. Hey, youall could drive in you ain't got to bring nothing I got all the alcohol I got 100 pounds of crab leg 100 pounds of shrimp we got like 200 hot dogs 200 hamburgers
Starting point is 00:33:38 all of that have at it but get there the best way you can preferably I prefer you to walk because you're going to be drunk by the time you leave and I don't want nobody to have no accident thank God we're watching over nobody got no DUI nobody got harmed
Starting point is 00:33:53 but I ain't pressing nobody man y'all know I got money I'm playing in the NFL I'm the highest paid XYZ but I'm not fitting to impress nobody a fiend a fiend birthday party, blue jeans, t-shirt,
Starting point is 00:34:09 shorts, flip flop, sandals, whatever. That's the theme. So I don't even celebrate my birthday. I just say, I say,
Starting point is 00:34:18 say me a little prayer. I'm glad to see, glad to see another year. Yeah. Give me a little Starbucks. Give me a cigar, man. And kick my feet up. That's just another. That's all. a little Starbucks, give me a cigar, man, and kick my feet up. I just feel bad,
Starting point is 00:34:29 Ocho, that people come in and... I mean, some people have never seen... Some people have never seen a million dollars in their lifetime. And I get it. When you say he made over $100 million, you figure Uncle Sam going to take 50% of that. So that's $50 million. Let's just say, Ocho, I throw 25 million.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I just throw 25. You still got to have 25 left. Even after your agent take his cut, back then they take, what, 3%, 4%? I don't know, 5% if they're paying for everything? Nah. And people are like, oh, kids. Kids don't
Starting point is 00:35:02 listen. Here's the thing. Yes. My grandfather told my brother and I, we were young.. Here's the thing. Yes, my grandfather told my brother and I, we were young. He said, the worst kind of poor you can be is child poor. Don't let that go over y'all head, people. That's an
Starting point is 00:35:19 18-year expense. That's damn near as long as your mortgage. Now, just imagine, your mortgage, you got one. There ain't very many people that have seven mortgages. So you start having five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten kids.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Okay? And they're not by one. Guess what, Ocho? That's 18 years. I know I done done the math oh shit I done done it too plenty times so you know what that mean Shannon you ain't went on no vacation
Starting point is 00:35:54 hell nah my vacation was right there that was my vacation right there that private school that's the vacation I would have taken went to That private school. The vacation I would have taken went to a private school and save it for their college.
Starting point is 00:36:12 That's where my vacation went. And a vehicle for them. That's where my vacation went. That's why the tunnel vision. Because, Ocho, the thing is, and I don Ocho, the thing is, and I don't,
Starting point is 00:36:26 I can honestly say this. I knew, not everybody, but I knew people wanted to see me fail, but my desire to succeed was greater than their desire to see me fail. Because see, they had no control over that. I had control over my success or failure
Starting point is 00:36:45 so all they could do is hope wish pray what will happen what gonna happen but i knew the only thing my grandma said when i say right out you know such and such pregnant okay all right. You take care of the kids. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. So now, my focus totally shifted. It ain't no more about me. It ain't no more about getting no watches. It's no more about
Starting point is 00:37:14 X, Y, and Z. I got kids. I got responsibilities now. That's mine. That's mine. That's got my name. So now, I got to make sure I put them in the best situation. I got to put them in a better situation than what I was in. I wanted my kid to be able to start on third base. Because guess what?
Starting point is 00:37:30 I started, I was in the stands. I didn't even have a bat. But somebody looked at me and said, hell, that kid, he can play. Let's bring him down. But to lose that kind of money, Ocho? Man, please.
Starting point is 00:37:47 It's just one example. You got to understand, 90, 92, 87% of us go broke when we done playing. So this is just one example because of who the individual is, and that's 100 million. So think about the people that never made 100 million.
Starting point is 00:38:03 You remember Rashad Breeland? The guy from Kansas City. I just read he sold his Super Bowl ring. Eighty-one thousand. It's a reason, man. And people laugh. People love to laugh and wonder why so goddamn cheap. Why, dog, man, listen.
Starting point is 00:38:25 But I ain't played football in 12 years. And still living the same lifestyle I was living when I was making money. When I was in the league. I'm still living the same exact way. My cheap ass lived at the stadium. Marvin Lewis had to kick me out the stadium because I refused to buy a damn place. You know how diabolical you know how fucking cheap that is yes the stadium has everything i need i'm crying not crying
Starting point is 00:38:53 why are you making me i'm here i'm here to work i'm here to play everything i need is right here why are you making me get a place? Man, shit. I got the same. I mean, for the most part, I had the same agent since 1996. Had the same marketing guy since 1999. I ain't changed. Why change?
Starting point is 00:39:18 I had an opportunity to go to big. Oh, you could do so much better. Nah, I trust them. Yeah. I trust. So I've had Marvin Marvin I've Marvin Demoff have been my agents in 1996 when I when I when I got with Marvin I had had two agents up until that time
Starting point is 00:39:35 right well the first one really my agent he was my brother's agent so he did my contract for free then I had another guy and I remember talking to Marvin and Marvin's like, okay, what do you want? I said, I want the same lifestyle that I have right now.
Starting point is 00:39:51 I want it when I'm done. He says, go home and get me every, get me every bill that you have. Bring me back how much money that you currently have. How many kids you currently have, what are their ages? I brought it to him.
Starting point is 00:40:11 He laid it out. He's like, okay, not bad. Could be better. Could be much worse. It's okay. This is what we're going to do. It's okay. He says, outside of your expenses,
Starting point is 00:40:29 home, car note, stuff like that, kids, you can spend $30,000 a year. So child support, private school, car note, mortgage, my sister, stuff like that, I got to spend $30,000. I spent $15,000. And put $15,000 up?
Starting point is 00:40:54 He's like, to this day, I remember Ocho like a year ago. He's like, have Shelly get all your stuff together. I want to take a look. I know what I have on my end. I want to see what you have on your end.
Starting point is 00:41:11 So I brought it to him. And when he showed it to him, I'm like, damn. He's like, what? I said, damn,
Starting point is 00:41:19 we, I said, we do. He's like, yeah, you did. You did. You did real good.
Starting point is 00:41:23 I'd say, he's like, I'm proud of you. He said, now go buy yourself something. I said, huh? He said, what are you doing? He's like, yeah, you did real good. He's like, I'm proud of you. He said, now go buy yourself something. I said, huh? He said, go buy yourself something. I'm like, I'm good. He's like, Shannon, he said, you've lived your life for everybody else since I've met you. Go buy yourself something.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I'm like, I'm like, but I don't really, he say, he says, how many times have you ever heard me say, go buy yourself something? I say, hell never.
Starting point is 00:42:00 He says, okay, you're going to be okay. Go buy yourself something. Yeah. So, I went and bought myself that challenger. Got a little book, you know, came back this year. Everything went well. We re-upped with ESPN.
Starting point is 00:42:16 You know, went and bought myself, you know, went and bought me a watch. So I'm good now, Ocho. I'm good. I'm good. I ain't bought nothing in a long time, boy. I ain't bought nothing in a long time. Look up Christmas this year?
Starting point is 00:42:33 No, you're laughing. You go get your car, what you go get? I don't know yet. What I have been doing is because I have so much... I have my hand in so many different things. Now, what I have started doing is I've been buying real pieces of accessories.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Yeah. As opposed to when I was playing and I was making sure nothing was real. Right. Just so I had to be spending what I'm making. Right. Get my head knocked off. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:00 So now because I got my hand in so many different things, obviously, I think people don't even understand I own three McDonald's franchises so you don't understand the type of money that's coming in quarterly when I'm getting paid so I'm starting to buy real watch here you know a chain here you know my Cuban links
Starting point is 00:43:17 now real and it just but listen I can't say but when they say God is good no he ain't good Yeah. And it just, but listen, I can't, I can't say nothing. But when they say God is good, right? No, he ain't good.
Starting point is 00:43:27 He good. People, people say they didn't start change that to my God is good. No God. Great. God is great. Right. You,
Starting point is 00:43:33 you not, you not understanding. I think if, if the chat understood what it took for me to even get back, man, boy, is tonight. Ain't the night to be crying,
Starting point is 00:43:45 but yeah, but yeah not tonight I ain't gonna let that slide see that's how I am Ocho I do for my brother and sister it's been a road it's been a long road boy man please I do for my brother
Starting point is 00:44:03 and sister like they did for me like i said my my relationship and i think people know that my relationship with my brother and sister is different than most people with their brother and sister yeah my brother and sister is more like my mom and dad because they raised me my grandfather had gotten old my grandmother was working my mom my dad died with i mean so my sister did everything that a mom would do for a four-year-old five-year-old seven-year-old eight ten-year-old my sister did everything that i learned my grandfather was extremely hard on my brother and i i you know i i i never understood if I got in trouble, he blamed my brother.
Starting point is 00:44:46 He said, because you're the oldest, you know, right. Right. He's going to watch and do everything that you do. So you make sure you do everything right. So I followed him everywhere. That's why I wanted to be like him, because he did everything right. He didn't get in no trouble. He didn't talk back.
Starting point is 00:45:08 He didn't, you know, I always had something to say. I always been quick with a lip. And there ain't no sense in me lying. My grandma kept her fist upside my head. It's because I was going to say something smart, but not my brother. And my sister gave me a bath, helped me with my homework, signed my report card. She did everything that a mom would do.
Starting point is 00:45:30 My sister did. Everything a mom would do, my sister did. Everything a dad would do, teach me how to do certain things, tie my shoe, so forth and so on. They did that.
Starting point is 00:45:40 And so once I got into the situation, we've always taken care of my sister. My sister had a job since 86. 40 years. My sister's day worked since she was 24. Ain't very many 24-year-olds. That's my sister. So I've always taken that. And once, you know, my brother retired, it shifted my focus because now he I'm the breadwinner.
Starting point is 00:46:10 And I got to I got to, you know, make sure everybody is straight because that's what he was doing. We were doing it together. He did it first. Now, I got to show them I got to I have to shoulder the load, Ocho. And that's why I'm very conscious of things that I do. That's why I'm so disappointed of kind of the situation that I put myself in. Because I'm good. But I wouldn't have been good enough to secure three, four generations good.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Right. I got me, my brother, and sister, my mom, and I got my kids. I'm working on my kids, kids, kids. That's what I'm trying to do. That's how I think. And that, what I did jeopardized that. You don't have to worry about it again, though. Promise you that.
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Starting point is 00:51:50 Maybe, do you think they misquoted it? As a quarterback, obviously, you're going through your reads. Sometimes the ball goes to him, but that's not my job. I have a sense and a feel for guys
Starting point is 00:52:04 when they don't get the ball and when they're getting the ball. Hey, man, hold on now. If I'm Kyler Murray, Kyler, I know you're going to see this. When you come out the huddle, what number Marvin Harrison, I mean, Marvin Harrison Jr. where? 18, isn't it? Kyler Murray, when you come out the huddle and you're making your points
Starting point is 00:52:29 with the line, point out the mic, check the coverage. Whatever side 18 go to, look at the DB. If it's one-on-one, throw it to him. Don't worry about no read. He is the read. He's the read. Don't worry about no read. He is the read. He's the read. What you talk about? It's stuff like this that makes it annoying.
Starting point is 00:52:51 It's not my job. What you think? That is your job. Why you think they took it forth over all, Kyler? I'll give you one. You know what it is? That's over fucking coaching. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:53:02 That's over coaching. That's why you said that answer. They're over coaching him, forcing him to go through his reads when, hello, you got a special individual that was the fourth pick for a goddamn reason. You do that to a rookie. Ocho, ain't nobody over coaching Kyler.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Kyler on some bull jive. Kyler been on some bull jive. But I ain't finna go there. This is not the time. This is about him not. You trying to win games. A rookie quarterback, you coach him. This man have been to the Pro Bowl.
Starting point is 00:53:33 And this man, wasn't he rookie of the year? Wasn't he rookie of the year? And you gonna talk about that's not your job? So tell me what your job is. I'd like to know. So you mean to tell me the guy's rookie of the year, the guy's a pro bowler, he's been to the Pro Bowl, he's taken the team to the playoffs, but that's not his job.
Starting point is 00:53:56 That explains. You know what? That explains. Now you see why. Now you see why. All I'm going to say is now you see why. You know what? You know what's going to happen though?
Starting point is 00:54:08 Who the Cardinals play tomorrow? Who the Cardinals play, Ash? I guarantee they feed him tomorrow. I guarantee they feature him tomorrow. They play the Rams. Oh, shit. Damn.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Hey, but even though still, even with them playing the Rams oh shit damn hey but even though still even with them playing the Rams I guarantee you they feature Marvin Harrison and he has a welcome to the to the NFL day I guarantee you
Starting point is 00:54:39 it's just the way it works it's just the way I'm not saying I know the script but after a day like that, which to me is an embarrassment, especially with the quote coming behind you, you're starting quarterback. That's an embarrassment. They're going to feature Marvin Harrison
Starting point is 00:54:53 Jr. tomorrow. I guarantee you. The wise thing would say, look, I got to understand that my playmakers and I got to do everything in my power to make sure I get them involved early and often. What did Tom Brady say? Tom Brady said, Tom Brady said
Starting point is 00:55:10 it's my job to get my playmakers the ball early. Who wants to go the second quarter to the third quarter before they get a target? That's what Tom said. Kyler Murray said that's not his job. Now, Chad, you see what I'm talking about? You see the difference between mentality?
Starting point is 00:55:26 You see how the great players think? And the other players looking to place the blame on somebody else. So in other words, what he's trying to do, Ocho, is up any blame that you might have placed on me, that's the coach's job. Now, listen to the other great quarterbacks. And when they talk, Peyton Manning, the Tom Brady's, the Mahomes, the other great quarterbacks and when they talk Peyton Manning the Tom Brady's
Starting point is 00:55:47 the Mahomes all those great quarterbacks they go out of their way early to make sure their playmakers get involved early Kyler Murray said that's not his job I mean listen I I'm not Kyler Murray is is media savvy he's he's savvy enough to be able to answer that in a different way. And I just, it was upsetting for me because on Marvin Harrison Jr. Debut as NFL player, it shouldn't look like that. No, it shouldn't look nothing like that. Nothing like that.
Starting point is 00:56:21 But I know one thing tomorrow is going to be, I guarantee you and i bet anybody in the chat i bet you a dollar tomorrow he gonna have a day oh joe now you see why i was born when i was born now you see oh the mentality is different the mentality is different man look here. Guys, I know y'all think, I think y'all know, look. Oh, shit. What happened? None? Go ahead, go ahead, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:56:56 I took a nap. Man, I just, it would bother me. It would, it bothers me, some of these guys' mentality. It bothers me that winning is not of the utmost. Why the F am I here? Why am I putting my body through this? Why am I denying myself?
Starting point is 00:57:19 When I train, I question myself. Every day I went to train, I asked myself a couple of questions. Why am I doing this? When is this over? What am I doing it for? How long is it going to last? And then I got to come and hear somebody talk about it's not his job. Guess what?
Starting point is 00:57:40 Lord have mercy. It bothers me, man. It really does. Because all I care about is winning. How do we get better? You don't get better with players like Kyler Murray. His mentality is not what it needs to be. Go listen to all the other great players.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Listen to Elway. Listen to Marino. Listen the other great players. Listen to Elway. Listen to Marino. Listen to Aikman. Listen to any great, and they'll tell you, I got to get my playmaker involved early. They not saying it's not my job. You got the damn ball. It is your job. You touch it the most. You touch it the most.
Starting point is 00:58:21 But that's why I say overcoaching, because when someone, a quarterback throws out, I have to go through my reads. That's coaching. That's them being in his ear a little bit too much. Guess what? If I'm a quarterback, damn it, all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:58:35 I can't read. Why 18 there? I don't even know the rest of the day I'm playing. 18, get over it. That's a veteran move, man. That's something me and Carson was doing in year five and six and seven and eight. That's a veteran move, man. That's something me and Carson was doing in year 5 and 6 and 7 and 8. That's a veteran move. I'm not sure if he has the leeway to be able to go off like that.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Hell, he done got one coach fired. He can get another one fired. It's easy to fire a coach than it is a quarterback. It's just, man, it's just the mindset of some of these guys. That's what it is, Ocho. That's all I'm saying. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Yeah. It's a little different. I bet he's asking what his job is on card. I bet he know that. I bet he know that. I bet he know what his job is on that. I get best with these playing partners. Ain't nobody going to say, man, it ain't your job to protect the blind spot. It ain't your job to go in there and do that. I get best with he playing partners. Ain't nobody going to say, man, it ain't your
Starting point is 00:59:25 job to protect the blind spot. It ain't your job to go in there and do that. I bet they don't know how to tell him that. He'll be fine. He just got to choose his words a little better. That's all. Because I'm sure if Marvin Harrison heard that too, I know he was upset.
Starting point is 00:59:42 And if he's not going to say nothing, he's not going to say nothing. He's not going to say nothing. He's the rookie. Oh yeah. He's going to be alright though. He's going to be alright though. I know tomorrow they're going to have a day. I know that. I guarantee you that. Lil Wayne responded
Starting point is 01:00:02 to being snubbed for the Super Bowl halftime show. Let's take a listen to what Weezy had to say that hurt hurt a lot you know what I'm talking about it hurt a whole lot I thought that was nothing I thought that was nothing better than
Starting point is 01:00:19 that spot and that stage and that platform in my city you know so it hurt a whole lot that spot, and that stage, and that platform in my city. You know? So I hurt. I hurt a lot. So, like I said, it broke me. And I'm just trying to put me back together.
Starting point is 01:00:38 But my God, have you all helped me. Ah. What you think, help me. What's your take on that? I have a question. I got a question, huh? Yes. I love Wayne. That's my dog, man.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Yeah. You know? Been in the studio with him back in the day. No name and a few songs. What, studio apartment? Nah, studio. It's nice to be in the studio. Okay, okay. I'm just making quick clarification.
Starting point is 01:01:06 I understand where he's coming from. Super Bowl being held in your hometown. What better place for you to represent for your people and the fans? And I thought to myself, how many years has the Super Bowl
Starting point is 01:01:21 been in New Orleans? Man, it's been in New Orleans more than any damn place. Right. So I'm curious. They had it in 2012. It was there in 90s when the Packers beat the Patriots. It was there when the Rams lost to the Patriots.
Starting point is 01:01:40 It was there when the Lions went out and the Ravens beat the 49ers. It was there in 77 when the Cowboys beat the Broncos. That's four times off the top of my head. I think it's been there about... So I'm only asking...
Starting point is 01:02:02 He laughing. Ask me, tell me. I'm going asking. Are you laughing? Ask me. Ask me. Tell me. I will say. 12. 10. It's been there 10 times. I'll say.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I'm only asking. Obviously, this is not the first time that it's been in New Orleans. No, no, no. It's been there 10 times. Yeah, okay. Of course. But Lil Wayne has never been hired or asked to perform. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:32 What makes a difference this year? I'm just curious. So maybe you can answer better. Maybe the chat can answer better for me. I think because of what happened when it was in L.A. And when it was in L.A., they got Dre.
Starting point is 01:02:44 They had snoop and they paid homage to you know and so i'm sure wayne was thinking like damn uh usher because he was a he was had a residency or uh smoking i don't know if you i don't know if you got a chance to see Usher. Yeah, yeah. I'm on real. He can perform now. Oh, man. He did it. So Weezy, like, well, damn, hold on. LA, they got the hip hop. You know, they got the, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:17 Boom Boom, Dre. They had 50. They had M. They had D-O-double-G. Mary J. Okay. Vegas, Usher I mean what they gonna bring Troy, Wayne, Newt, Nas out there you know, they're like nah
Starting point is 01:03:33 so Wayne was like okay hey you know, Weezy F baby and you know, New Orleans and it didn't happen I get his frustration I'm like you know I can see both sides because we've never frustration. I'm like, I can see both sides because it's never been like, think about it.
Starting point is 01:03:50 When it was in Atlanta, they had Maroon 5. Think about it. You had Tim, you had Luda, you had Future, you had 2 Chainz, you had what's the other group? Andre 3000, Big Boy.
Starting point is 01:04:07 All cast. They loaded. You got Babyface, you got Jermaine Dupri, you had Usher, you had... Yeah. Think about it. They have Maroon 5. Hold on. Maroon 5 got some hits now.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I'm not saying they don't. But you would think in Atlanta, you're like, damn, you ain't gonna play no homage to what they got? Right. So I get it. But, you know, look. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:46 I can understand his frustration. But it's not like, okay, such and such is from, listen, we know. Beyonce can't do it every year. And Taylor Swift, that's who they want. That's Beyonce. They want Taylor. But Taylor's like, I'm big enough. I don't need that.
Starting point is 01:05:07 I mean, Beyonce didn't need it, but Beyonce did them a courtesy. She did them a courtesy. Because you don't get paid for it and you come out your pocket. Yeah. Remember what I said?
Starting point is 01:05:23 Everyone's up in arms, even though Lil Wayne came out and spoke about it. Yeah. It still has to do a set. He has to do a set. I'm not sure if they have music together, but Lil Wayne might make a surprise. That was one of the first things I said. He might make a surprise. You never know.
Starting point is 01:05:41 You never know what Kendrick may do. I'm not sure. They talk about, oh, my God, we don't want Taylor. You don't, but the may do. I'm not sure. They talk about, oh my God, we don't want Taylor. You don't, but the NFL do. NFL do. I don't think they understand what she does for the eye visibility,
Starting point is 01:05:55 the exposure. They want that different crowd of eye. What was that number when she came out and kind of support for Kamala? How many people signed up to vote? what was that number when she came out and kind of like support for Kamala how many people signed up to vote
Starting point is 01:06:08 it was crazy I saw that like 800,000 people registered within 24 hours man y'all better stop look y'all might not like y'all might not like her but she's an earthquake
Starting point is 01:06:24 400,000 she's an earthquake. 400,000. She's an earthquake. Like I said, Beyonce can't perform every year. Beyonce said, I'm good. As a matter of fact, Beyonce was at 50 with a Coldplay. I think she did a set with Coldplay at Super Bowl 50. I was there.
Starting point is 01:06:46 I know she was in New Orleans because I was there. I've been to a couple of them. Obviously, I was with CBS in Miami when Prince did it playing Purple Rain, and it starts to rain. It started raining, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:02 And to see, man, that little man can sing. That little man. Not only sing, perform. He's a performer. That's what he is. He's a performer. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:07:16 And then can play every goddamn instrument. Piano, the guitar. Oh, he's... All of them. Real deal. Oh, man. Prince is pretty amazing, man. When he had that group, you know, look, I understand
Starting point is 01:07:33 the new power generation, but when he was with Wendy and Lisa, the Andre Simone. What you know about that, man? Come on, man. Hey, y'all. What you know about that? Hey, Prince might be the only one to be able to wear heels and get all the women all of them platforms to get all the women yep
Starting point is 01:07:53 get all the women yeah hey boy boy boy ain't nothing like good old Cass who they had with you oh yeah oh boy listen boy listen damn yeah Michael was in
Starting point is 01:08:21 Michael was in 93 I think when Michael performed at the Super Bowl I think Michael was in 93, I think, when Michael performed at the Super Bowl. I think Michael was in Pasadena. Is that where he performed at? Because that was like the first Super Bowl I went to. I was a baby. It was 93. I didn't go to the game, but that was the first the NFL invited me,
Starting point is 01:08:42 and I had stuff I did. Yeah, I get it. I mean, you know, like I said, I think me, I'm kind of empathetic because I know Wayne. I know him personally. But it's tough. You want to perform in front of your city.
Starting point is 01:09:00 And like I said, I hope that Kendrick will at least bring him out, let him do a couple of songs. That'd be live. Yeah. I think the set is only, what, 20 minutes, 15 minutes? Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Ocho, we got 17,000 in the chat at 4 a.m.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Now it's time. We got to do a quick. We can't just leave you with that. We got to do a quick Q&A. Compton underscore West says, Salute and respect to both of you brothers. Turn 50 today. Shout me out.
Starting point is 01:09:42 About three of those black shades. It's about to be lit in Irvine. You know what? Man, I don't know if your heart healthy enough to be able to support that, man. But, you know, I would shoot you a couple of these rubies. Yeah. Yeah, man. You need a few of those.
Starting point is 01:10:00 You think Judy Garland had them in, what you call them, Wizard of Oz, them ruby slippers? Boy, they have you clacking your heels together there's no place like home there's no place like home Ocho bad uh
Starting point is 01:10:16 2055 Ocho is social media affecting players and how they play no I don't think social media is affecting players and how they play but their performance with social media affect the players and how they play no i don't think social media is affecting players and how they play but their performance what social media can do you know if you if you're not strong if you don't have will and you mentally mentally weak but we can get to you heavy now you get too heavy and i think also players these days are more focused on their brand than actually playing the goddamn game because if you play the game and you'll excel in between the lines,
Starting point is 01:10:47 building your brand will take care of itself. I think. What is your brand? What are you building a brand on? Are you winning? Thank you. My brand, my brand.
Starting point is 01:10:57 So what, what, what exactly is your brand? Cause football ain't a brand. The NFL already got that on lock. The NBA already got that on lock. That's the brain NBA, MLB on lock. That's the brand. NBA, MLB, NFL.
Starting point is 01:11:08 What is your brand? What is it that you're trying to sell? I don't know. I'm just telling you. They're trying to build a brand. Whatever that brand may be, whatever their idea, whatever their vision is, they're trying to build that before playing a game of football. But if you play the game of football and you're really good at that,
Starting point is 01:11:26 the other part that you're trying to do is going to take care of itself. Take care of itself. But if you ain't making no noise between the lines, trying to build something off the field, ain't going to do nothing for you no way. Slick Mick said, y'all see a future where NFL adopts something similar to NBA where players have potential to sign Super Mac to stay with the team. Yeah, I mean, that's what to stay with the team. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 01:11:45 that's what the franchise tag was for. Yeah. Because they didn't want their, their superstar quarterbacks, the Elways, the Marinos, the Aikman's to be able to leave. So that's why,
Starting point is 01:11:57 that's what the, that's what the franchise tag is. It allows you to keep your best player, but I agree. That's what it should be. It should be a situation that you can sign your best players and it doesn't count against the cap. So you get an opportunity to sign two of your best players.
Starting point is 01:12:13 So let's just say Cincinnati. Joe Burrow, Joey B, and Chase. You can sign those to what? And it don't count against the cap. Because that's what, because that was the last bird. You had the bird rights. You had been there for X amount of years. You got bird rights.
Starting point is 01:12:35 So yes, I agree. I don't know if it's going to happen because NFL Day, I don't know. Sheldon Pope said, Ocho, bring the gold grills out for old times sake he probably don't know where those things are yeah I don't know where they are
Starting point is 01:12:50 but I'm getting ready to go get like the back three I'm going to get the back three 14 carry gold for what they can't nobody see back there who will be in your mind back there when they see it when I laugh and I'm going to get a little cross right here.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Listen. You heard me? There will always be signs. I'm going to leave it at that. There will always be signs. The signs will be small. They'll be very subtle, but there will always be signs. I'm going to leave it like that. The signs will be small. They'll be very subtle,
Starting point is 01:13:25 but there will always be signs. I'm going to leave it like that. Man, Ocho, we got a fast turnaround. Chat, I want to thank you guys. I honestly do. Ocho and I from the bottom of my heart. How many we got in there?
Starting point is 01:13:43 We got 17,000. And here it is. That's dope. At the 4 o'clock. And chat, I just want to say I love y'all, man. I thank you.
Starting point is 01:13:52 You know how I fall asleep by the time we get to about 12 o'clock, 1230 at night. I took a nap today. Y'all up with us. I'm not sure how many people
Starting point is 01:14:01 in the chat on the East Coast, but I really salute y'all. I take my hat off. I salute you. I appreciate it. The love, the support, especially this time of night, being up this late. For me, you know it's hard because soccer, for me, come on at 730. I think Arsenal played Tottenham at 730.
Starting point is 01:14:18 I might be wrong, but I really appreciate y'all, man, from the bottom of my heart. Yeah, man. I got a job. Anytime I got a job to do, man, from the bottom of my heart. Yeah, man, I look. I got a job. Anytime I got a job to do, I'm going to do the job. I'm going to do what I need to do to make sure. And that's like I told you.
Starting point is 01:14:33 And I say, man, look, we left round two. I said, we got to go. I said, we got responsibility. We told the people we was going to come on after the fight. And I need to get home. And I wanted to beat the traffic because obviously you know how it is. I mean, those places, they got it all
Starting point is 01:14:50 barricaded off and, well, okay, you got to go here and look, my street, right? If you let me get on that right there, I'll be home. Now you got to go all the way around. Later for you. So, guys, I want to thank you. I really do. I really, really, really appreciate it to stay up this late and to support us like you guys have. Man, it's been unbelievable. I really do. We really, really, really appreciate it to stay up this late
Starting point is 01:15:05 and to support us like you guys have. Man, it's been unbelievable. That's what makes it feel so good, Ocho. Look, everybody, when you start to get to a certain level, you're going to have the tractors, but we got far more supporters that rock with Uncan Ocho,
Starting point is 01:15:22 that rock with Club Shea Shea, that follow me when I go to a first take, and I greatly, greatly appreciate that because none of this is possible without you guys. You guys have embraced me from the moment I set foot on Fox. You guys rock with me, and you guys have followed me, so
Starting point is 01:15:37 I want to take my time to say thank you, and I appreciate you. Sometimes, I mean, I know maybe it doesn't come off like I do, but I do. I do. I appreciate the ones that have supported me, that have been there for me, and even this week, I appreciate
Starting point is 01:15:54 the support. I appreciate all the guys and people that hit me up on my phone, offer words of encouragement. Thank you. Thanks for all the people that DM me and left comments. Thank you, guys. I really, really appreciate that. So that means a lot to us. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite, Shannon Sharp. Please make sure you hit that
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Starting point is 01:17:37 It was great to get an opportunity to go to the spirit to see that Ocho. I'll see you tomorrow after these games. Guys, again, thank you. It's almost four. Hold on. It's after four. It's after four o'clock in the morning, and you guys are up with us, supporting us. That's love. That's support. That's
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