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The Volume. I do want to transition. I just brought this up about playing sports and a friend of mine,
we were talking, actually, as I was driving in, I had a television today.
And so I'm on a freeway in traffic and.
Son is one of the best high school football players in the country.
One of the top in the state.
Uh, and we're talking and I told him, I was like, yeah, I got to do nightcap.
And he knew he was going to be on a show.
And he was like, man, ask James, what do you think about kids playing one sport?
And a lot of kids turn their ACLs at a younger age.
Do you attribute that to one sport?
Do you attribute that to not resting, doing too much?
Like, what do you think can cause that and why?
I don't know how many kids tear the ACLs at a young age.
I do believe that, especially like in the pros,
where guys are tearing, you know,
tendons and all that other stuff,
I think it comes down to cortisol.
Like, anything that has cortisol in it, you know,
you know how you take those MedDraw dose packs? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they had you feelin' like Superman, to cortisol, like anything that has cortisol in it.
You know how you take those MedDraw dose packs and they had you feeling like Superman,
you know what I'm saying?
All you do is-
The people that's listening,
they don't know what the dose pack is.
So it's steroid, but we're taking them shits all the time.
Go ahead and let the people know,
because they don't know.
It's methyl something whatever,
but anything that has SON or Solon, anything that has song S-O-N or solon
is some form of cortisone.
And that weakens your tendons.
It actually doesn't allow your tendons
to do the things that it needs to do
to like rebuild from you can always tear.
You know, it tears and micro tears,
but the proteins that need to get in there
to help repair it, it doesn't allow it.
So now those tendons, all tendons in your body,
I mean, I'm talking things as far as like,
you get the rub on creams that have some type
of cortisone in it, the pills, health, even inhalers,
you know what I'm saying?
That has it. It weakens tendons.
The biggest tendon in your body is your Achilles tendon. And I think that's what's leading to a
lot of these guys getting these, you know, Achilles tears is that they're taking these forms of
cortisone, man. And it's, it's weakening the tendons and the most weight bearing tendon in your body,
you know, is your Achilles. So guy goes out there and he puts that force on it. He
probably done took some form of cortisol to make his body feel better. That kills
the inflammation which stops the healing of repair and the proteins that you need
to help heal all your tendons, you know, in your body. Do you think kids and, should they be doing more than one sport?
I believe they should because if you do more than one sport, it'll make you
better at your chosen sport.
I don't understand why it's like this.
It's just like football year round, basketball year round, baseball year
round.
I don't understand when this started and why it started.
Like, I don't understand this.
I know it's about money.
The big thing is you gotta take a, you gotta take a break.
You gotta take a break somewhere because you still need, even though you're a kid,
you still need that time to repair.
Like you gotta work out.
You gotta, you gotta build up, you know, that, that strength back.
You gotta, you gotta let those muscles heal.
You gotta give them time to, to, you know, to repair.
And I don't think they really understand like,
yeah, it's a kid, but you still need to have strong muscles.
Another thing, guys in the NFL,
when the NFL first starts,
you got a lot of dudes that get soft tissue injuries.
They pulling hamstrings, they pulling quads,
and all that other stuff.
What guys are doing is they're not putting their body
through those forces.
They don't want through these collective bargaining agreements
and made it to where you don't have to practice no more.
So you don't harden your body up to actually go out there
and do the things that you're asking you to do.
So all off season, you're out here doing the little cute
drills, but you're not putting your body into positions
where as a linebacker, I have to drive and bang into alignment
and push off of him.
So that's why you see me doing sled pushes.
They're like, why is you pushing 1,800 pounds on a sled?
Because I'm putting that force into my Achilles
that I'm going to have to get that's
going to be a greater force than I'll ever
see on the football field.
So that when I go and I step on that field,
I'm going to put my body through all that in the off season.
I done made it so hard in the off season that the game is easy.
And now you got guys that they don't train like that no more.
They don't have to practice like that no more.
They don't even do preseason like that no more.
And now you get into week one and you're telling your body,
hey, go out here, give me 65 snaps at a hundred miles an hour.
And you wonder why guys are pulling hamstrings and quads.
They're dehydrated.
They haven't put their bodies through those forces and the strength
and weakness of the muscles.
Like I said, you get a guy that's quad dominant, he's pulling his hamstring.
You get a guy that's hamstring dominant, he's pulling his quad.
It's no more.
If they play more sports, to me, you just can't be specialized. He's pulling this hamstring you get a guy that's answering dominant. He's pulling this quad
They do to me you just can't be
Specialized and I say that and my son has played basketball now a year straight
we've had time off but a year straight but
We'll take we'll go play a little seven on seven, but this would be
Pretty much his last year playing basketball then we don't go go to football. They want to go back to basketball.
They want to go to track.
Like, we're going to be doing all this because.
You want to build an athlete, I want at least I want to build an athlete.
And what are you doing to help him recover repair?
So what we do each night, not every night, probably every other night,
I got the Norma Techs.
So when I Norma techs. So
when I Norma tech his legs, I'll massaging with a paragon or my hands. He
can't take my hands yet. He'd be crying or he won't cry. He just be moving
around too much saying it hurts. And then I bought a, uh, I bought a game
ready. He'll use a game ready. I got a little ice tub.
He'll get in that.
He gets in that fine.
That first time, boy, he started crying.
Me and my wife argued about that one.
He started crying when I put him in ice tub last year.
And I'm like, crying for boys.
I got mad at him for crying and you know, he freaking mad at him.
Uh, but he cried at one time and then he was good.
So, yeah, we Normatech, we ice tub if he needed with the game ready.
We do the game ready.
I'll kind of rub him out a little bit.
Yeah, pretty much. That's what we do.
OK, so you're doing things to help him repair, recover.
Yeah. You supplementing me?
No, no supplements at all, because I didn't take, when I played,
zero, I've never taken a supplement.
Yeah, but nobody, even though he's your son,
he's from you, that don't mean his body and DNA
are the same.
We haven't, nah, no, he's never taken any supplements
just because I don't think he's your,
and we do like small strength work,
meaning we do a lot of like getting your hips strong,
getting your calves strong,
was that a little soleus muscle right under the knee,
outside the knee on your right side,
that's what that is?
From the outside,
right here.
Look, look, look.
This is not about your VMO? VMO, no, no, no, look. This is about your VMO?
VM, no, no, no, that's your quad.
The VMO is right there.
Who you talking about?
Oh, you talking about the front, on the side of the shin?
Yeah, that.
Okay.
I just do a lot of exercises to kind of strengthen up
his calves, for the Achilles, and his hips.
Lot of band work.
Yeah, but we not really, he ain't, he has never lifted a weight at all. We do, I do a lot of hurdle jumps. Yeah, but we not, we not really, he ain't, he has never
lifted a weight at all. We'll do it. I do a lot of hurdle jumps.
Yeah. I mean, he's still young. Yeah. We ain't, we ain't lifting no weights,
but I think that part of it, just be a multi-sport athlete.
Yes. It may, it's going to make it. I try to get my kids to do that and understand
that y'all need to do multiple sports because it will make you better at your chosen sport.
You know, like I don't want to do it
because I'm not good at it.
That's why you should do it.
You know, because you're not good at it.
It'll develop more skill for you to be better
at the sport that you actually want to get better at.
You run track.
Yes.
You're going to be powerful.
You're going to be powerful.
You will be powerful.
And that's the thing.
I said I was getting on the track today.
I ain't do shit today.
Couldn't even keep nothing, nothing.
Mm-hmm.
No accountability, it's okay.
Nah, I had to go to work today.
I'm gonna get that if you wanna call it.
You had to go to work at four o'clock in the morning?
Four o'clock in the morning, TJ, to sleep.
I'm just saying, I had to make sure I got everything done.
Got the kids worked out, so I got up at 1 I had to make sure I got everything done that kids worked out.
So I got up at 1.30 and make sure I got everything done.
1.30, what time you went to bed?
I don't know, probably 10.
Oh, nah.
I went to bed at like 11.30, woke up at 7.30.
Oh, I was, that's why I had some business to handle.
That's what I was doing, handling some business, some, yeah, yeah, I was, that's why I had some business to handle. That's what I was doing, handling some business,
some, yeah, yeah, I had business to handle.
I normally don't have a lot of business to handle,
but I had some business to handle,
and I did that for like two and a half hours.
Then I was like, oh, I had to take a shower
and hit the freeway, because I had to be in studio.
Okay.
So that's what happened, but I'm gonna,
I'm gonna get on, I'm gonna get on it tomorrow.
I wanna get on, I wanna talk about this.
Stefan Diggs and Cardi B, right?
Uh-huh.
Oh, Diggs rented Cardi B a castle
while they were in Europe.
This can go many directions.
One, is that something that D-Bow would do?
You married or you just got a girlfriend?
You married?
No?
No, no, no, no, no, I'm not married.
Would you do that?
For me,
cause we know you got a big bread.
You can afford it.
We know you got big paper.
We know you afford it.
Listen, it ain't like that.
It ain't like that.
Listen, so for me, I don't see a problem with it
as long as you're not stepping out of your financial lane.
You know what I'm saying?
As long as it's not putting you in a position
that later on that's gonna hurt you.
Take and look at Jeff Bezos.
Jeff Bezos just got married.
What'd he spend like like $40 something million dollars
or something, whatever?
That's nothing to him.
He makes anywhere from 26 to $45 million a day.
He spent a day's worth of money, okay?
So nobody is going to even blink an eye at that.
If you're not stepping out to the financial lane
and it's not something that's going to hurt you,
do whatever it is that you want to do. You know what I'm saying?
Like I don't, I don't see a problem with it.
So you know, if I told you, you did something extravagant and you spent a day's pay on it.
Would that be extravagant to you?
No.
Nah.
Okay.
So with that being said, then what's the wildest purchase you've made for a young lady then?
So the wildest purchase, it was an older lady,
but the wildest purchase that I made is I,
I bought her a house.
Yeah, I bought her a house.
I was trying to get her to go into the house sooner, but um, she didn't want to go
She was married. Um
But she was married when you bought her house
No, she wasn't well her husband had passed. Okay years before and then I ended up
I guess, you know, she was finally ready to go and
I ended up buying her the house probably about four or five years after her husband passed, you know, she was finally ready to go. And I ended up buying her the house probably about
four or five years after her husband passed.
And, you know, my mama been happy there ever since.
Ah!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Oh, that's a good one! I was like, what?
I'm thinking like her husband passed them, huh?
Yeah, my dad, I see how you're going though.
They was on there probably like, huh? Hey, hey, hey,. See, I had you going, dog. They was on there probably like, huh?
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
You was about to get hanged out on DMs,
like, well, shit, what's up?
Ha ha ha ha.
Come on, bruh.
No, man, I ain't never did nothing extravagant, dude.
Yeah.
Really?
Nah.
Nah, maybe, you know,
I ain't gonna lie.
I ain't gonna lie.
You know? I ain't, I don't, myself, man, coming from where I come from,
I think you go either direction when you grew up
in the slums like I did.
I mean, I grew up with nothing, bruh, nothing.
Like I'm talking electricity going out.
We got goddamn kerosene lamps and shit,
flashlights, candles and shit.
The kerosene heater with the water on top?
Bruh, I'm tellin' you bro.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, they was putting light bills in my name and my brother's name and they wasn't paying that shit to get cut off.
They put it in other brother's name. Like, that's how broke we were, man.
So we ain't had shit bro growing up, nothing.
And so I just kind of jumped into the streets at an early age to kind of get
some money, but so I think you go either way when you come from the slums, you
get that money, I'm spinning it.
You get that money.
I got to be careful and save it.
Cause I know what it's like to go back to that.
Yeah, you don't never want to go back.
And so I will say I'm kind of like the in between on this, man.
Like I might put up a fuss about buying some shit.
But if I'm with someone, I want them to look nice.
I want them to have nice things.
But it ain't just unlimited.
It ain't unlimited.
But I want you to have nice things.
Like if you're doing right by me and you want something, I'ma get it for you.
All right.
So right now, wifey say I want this watch.
It's a mil.
You getting it?
Fuck no.
Okay.
Now hold up.
Stop.
Wifey say you want this watch.
It's a mil, but you got Bezos money.
You getting it?
Oh, if I got Bezos money, I'ma ask how many watches you want this watch. It's a mill, but you got Bezos money. You getting it. Oh, I got Bezos money
I'm gonna watch as you want exactly
Man like if she okay, I
Mean I rich but I got I do have enough money like I'm not hurting for money. No question
But it's like, I want my kids
to be given a head start on life, like I wasn't.
So I wanna leave my kids in enough money
to where they're comfortable when I'm no longer here.
And hopefully that's gonna be the case.
And so I try to make sure that I don't watch what I spend,
but I'm not a extravagant
Individual though. So so what you saying is you got a problem with it. I got no problem. No, I don't have a problem with I'm in your realm
Okay, if okay, it ain't affecting how you if it if it don't affect your lifestyle shit
It ain't a big deal. Right like if it's not affecting your lifestyle, it is not a big deal at all.
That's how, but for me, if I got it, I want my wife to have nice things.
I want my lady, girl, for whoever, I want her to have nice things.
I want my kids to have nice things.
I don't, I'll have like, I don't buy myself a lot.
Like, bro, I'd never forget this story, bro.
You know how you get to the league and you talked about, oh, he showed me his check. You remember that?
Yes. Yes.
Everybody, once they get money, they driving Lambos, Ferraris, Phantoms, Bentley's. So I said to myself,
Bentleys. So I said to myself, man, I'd never ever buy one of those cars. That's crazy. So then.
When I sought my deal, it was like I wanted a nice car.
I had already had the Benzes.
And what's above that?
And I got one.
Broth paid 270,000 cash.
Straight cash.
Bam.
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podcasts. Bro, I swear before God, man, I drove that car.
I had it for like four years.
When I got rid of it, it's like 6,000 miles.
Six thousand miles.
And I'm just like, and when I paid 270 cash straight, no payments, no down payment, buy.
Yeah.
I don't believe you, I did the same stupid stuff.
Four years later, bro, four years later,
I got $130,000 for that, bro.
And I'm just like, what are you doing?
And then I still go buy another expensive,
it's crazy, like I'm gonna buy cars,
I don't wear a ton of jewelry, but my wife.
I don't wear jewelry at all.
Well, I got on earrings.
I just got earrings.
That's it.
That's it.
Hold up, I'm gonna tell you right now though.
And they fake.
Yeah, they gotta be.
I ain't wearing no real jewelry.
They gotta be.
No question.
Weave, weave.
Now that's one thing I will say.
Unc and Ocho, they out.
But that's one thing we got in common with Chad.
You seen me with some jury, yo?
Man, this shit ain't real.
No.
It ain't real?
I'm telling you it ain't real, and you ain't
going to believe me no way.
What do you mean you get so real for?
So don't, so all you fellas, don't try to run up
on somebody, you're going to take that shit.
Hey, listen, run up on me
and I'm gonna pull them out my ear again to you.
You run up on me, I'm gonna give them to you
and I'm gonna give you something else too.
No, if you got that ratchet on you
and I ain't got a chance to get them mine,
I'm gonna give them to you.
They ain't number 599.
Even if I got it, I'm gonna give them to you.
Then I'm gonna give you something else.
Like you can have this
But you just practicing if you robbing me baby, so I got nothing but plastic and in glass
I just I just feel like this what you said, bro. It is
in digs
Boy, he don't he done made a ton of money if that ain't affecting
How you live your life, but we also got to take into account, he's still playing and you know when you playing.
Hey.
You ain't counting?
We won't blow some iron cone like.
You was not counting.
We will blow some money when you pay.
When you playing, bro, sometimes you just,
it just be like, let's go back to your shit, bro.
When you talking about buddy showing your check,
I remember I did the same thing to one of my young fellas
when I was making big money, bro.
I showed him my check.
And at that point, it was this before taxes,
this before taxes.
My shit was like 720,000, right?
A week.
And I showed it to him and he was just like, wow.
But when you making that type of money every week you will blow some
money yeah even don't even think about it yeah but then when you done play it
you look back you like must been like a million and a half dollar on rims What's worth of? What's worth of? What's worth of? What's worth of? What's worth of?
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Yeah, you don't even wear it all.
What? You for sure ain't wearing it all.
And when you do wear it, you wear it one time.
You be like, shit, I've already worn this.
I can't wear this no more.
Like, I can't be seen in this.
I can't be seen in this again.
I've already worn it.
They gonna remember this outfit.
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
I was never like that.
I knew dudes that was like that, though.
I was, I mean, there's been times where, like,
bro, I probably, like, right now,
I think I got at least 60, 70 suits.
We don't even wear suits on TV anymore.
We were casual now.
So I'm like, well, I ain't gonna lie.
I got, yeah, I probably got the same thing
because I used to get 10 suits a year.
So dude, I probably got like 120, 130 suits.
So this is what happened.
The reason I don't have this many suits
is when we was playing, we would steal up in the suits.
Hey, I had to get rid of all of them,
so I got rid of them.
Yes, yes.
Hey, baggy ass, the coat down there at your knees.
Long, hey, the leg about this wide.
Hey, bruh.
So I got rid of them.
So I'm like, I can't wear these suits no more.
So then I ordered some.
I probably ordered probably after I got done playing, like, I can't wear these suits no more. So then I ordered some, I probably ordered probably after I got done playing like 30 suits.
European slim fit.
Now the baggie was coming back.
I'm like, oh, well, I'm staying with this.
Yeah, no question.
We would just waste money
and not realize that we may waste the money
because it's constantly coming in.
Because that every Monday, bro, you start seeing that you check your account.
You'd be like, damn, like it just, and after a while you just stopped checking it
cause you know, it's in there and then you just suspended.
And so my lady wants something and we cool.
Let's go.
Yeah.
And I think a lot of guys are like that.
A lot of guys are like that.
Oh yeah, everybody's like that.
Nobody really, well I'll take it back.
I won't say nobody.
I was more of a counter checking my account more often than, because my first year in
the league, I made $60,000 on practice squad.
So I didn't, I was checking.
I made that last for almost
With that in one active game the next year and another four weeks to practice squad. I made it almost two years
I'm right now. We talking once we got the money
That's talking once we got them early. Oh, I wasn't married early on I'll be like
Hey, I checked the account
What did you just buy for 2,700?
What are you doing?
Stop doing that.
What are you doing?
Like, it became a point where like, I'm like, bro,
like I was getting angry.
And so then I talked to somebody and it was like, TJ,
you good, man, you not gonna go broke.
Like you good.
I'm like, what you, you don't know that?
Right, you're right.
Once you get the money, then it's like, OK, I know I'm comfortable.
I know I'm good.
But it's always going to be that.
But but like, I want my lady to be happy.
I want her to look nice. I want her to have nice things.
I mean, you can't die with the money.
But I do want to leave.
I want to give my kids what I never had.
Listen, I wanna leave them enough.
I ain't trying to leave them enough
just to sit there and do nothing.
Nah, but if you raise, we raise them right, man.
They're gonna be motivated, man.
They're gonna still get out there and do something.
See, I got four of them.
And my two oldest one, they're growing,'re gonna still get out there and do something. So I got four of them And my two oldest one they grown in the two younger ones
one a teenager and mother one eleven, so that that's gonna be a
If it ain't hurting your pockets man, right you
Do what you do. But if you spend today
And you sit in here like this tomorrow
We got a problem on our hands.
We got a problem.
Cause now you sitting there like,
damn, I done spent all that money for this.
And now you got to figure out how to go get it.
Man, Diz got that paper coming in.
Bezos got that paper coming in.
James first thing he had that paper coming in.
So y'all good.
Stop it.
Stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it.
Y'all, y'all, y'all good.
So, man, before we get up out of here, man,
we gonna talk a few more things, man.
Did you see the story where the man in Florida,
he was paying his girlfriend rent.
$2,500 a month.
That ain't much at all.
$2,500 a month.
That ain't shit, really.
He's paying it for years.
And then he found out That ain't much at all, 2,500 a month. That ain't shit really. He's paying it for years.
And then he found out she had a housing voucher.
Her rent was only $106. What you gonna do?
Oh, I'm gone.
I'm gone.
She better sell me a savings account
that got all that money in there
so she don't go in and did something with it and multiplied it.
And she was just wasn't telling me.
It was a surprise. Otherwise, I'm gone.
No, you gonna say anything to her? You just...
No! I'm not saying to her. I'm like, yo, I'm gonna check up,
be like, what you got in savings?
You got any investment something?
I'm gone. I ain't gonna say nothing.
She gonna be wherever she at. She gonna come in, house gonna be empty.
Everything gone.
Phone number changed, everything.
I'm gone.
How you don't know what you paying?
She must've told him or when they,
this something happened to where the rent was 2,500.
So he was just paying it.
And then he stumbled upon that voucher that was $106. So something gotta be some I don't know what they call it. Where you from out here we call it section eight. They call it out there like that.
Yeah, section eight.
Okay, so section eight worldwide. So she must have been on section eight.
Hold on, hold on, hold on. Section eight. He's supposed to be living with her, is he?
Where is he? I don't know if he was living with her.
They just said he was paying her rent.
But he could be living with her.
You know how, you know when you're from the hood.
Come on, you ain't supposed to live with them,
but we living with them?
Like, okay, you, when they come check, you can't figure.
He had to know she was on Section 8.
Ain't no Section 8 $2,500.
I'm, maybe she told him she didn't get Section 8,
so they had to pay the regular price of the rent.
I don't know what it was, but all I know is what did he do?
I don't know what he did.
Me personally, I can't leave like you.
I got to, I got to let her know I know.
I got to let her know I know. I got to let her know I know. I got to let her know I know.
So I'm gonna just be like, say rent due on the 1st. I'm gonna just be like, who paying the rent this month?
Oh you got it. You been paying it. How you gonna say that? I'm gonna ask who paying the rent this month. I want to see what she say. How much is it again? You sure?
Okay.
Oh, a hundred and six.
Yeah, because I've seen the thing.
I mean, twenty five hundred because I saw the
voucher that said it was a hundred and six.
What was that? I just want to see her stutter.
See what her excuse is. See what her reason is.
And then I'm gone.
But I'm...
I can't leave.
Cause I just wanna, and then I may not just leave right then and there.
I'm probably gonna be like,
so what was you doing with the money?
Well, the 2,500, however many,
if it's, I don't know how long it is.
Cause if it's one year, that's 30,000.
If it's two years, that's 60,000. If it's two years, that's 60,000.
I want to know what you've been through.
She was taking care of her other man.
What have you been doing with the money?
She can't tell me that.
She can't tell me that.
Um, because I'm not putting my hands on anyone,
and that's one thing that I will never, ever do.
But in essence, see, that's the thing, though.
When you ask what you've been doing with the money, you better be ready for any
answer. Right. I don't want to know. Listen, I know you ain't got it.
It's been spent. There's no need for me to be here.
I'm just going to be gone. When you come home, it's going to be a surprise.
Damn. That's it. Damn. Like 2,500? I mean, where they live at though?
You can't get nothing out here for $2,500.
That's Cali, man. Y'all so expensive.
It's, man, I don't understand out there, dude.
$2,500 is high rent where I'm at in PA.
Shit, you...
That's highfalutin. That's highfalutin rent.
My apartment building, I get more than $2,500 per unit.
Damn. See, y'all, y'all, y'all... That's how I feel. My apartment building is, I get more than 2,500 per unit.
Damn, man, see y'all, y'all, y'all, man, that's crazy. Y'all prices out there, man,
you living in the ghetto out there for like a million.
Nah, hell nah.
Nah. Man, listen,
I drove through when I was going out there
for Fox and stuff.
Yeah. Man, I drove through,
what is that, Beverly Hills over there?
Now that, every house over there, at least 8 million.
Dude, I'm looking at something, man.
I'm like, dude, if I could take my land and my house over here,
I'd get nang on 50, 40 million dollars.
But this the thing, though. This the thing.
This is the big difference.
Because James Deebo Harrison, you got big bread, bro.
Stop, bro.
Hold up. If you went and bought a house, you got big bread, bro. So hold up.
If you went and bought a house, listen to what I'm saying. If you went and bought a house in Beverly Hills tomorrow for 10 million.
In three years, guess how much you're going to sell it for?
What?
Least 18, 19 million.
What? Least 18, 19 million.
If you buy a two million dollar house in Pittsburgh in three years, what you selling it for?
Two point one.
You can, it depends what you, you know, you could get, well, it depends what you built
it for and all that.
You could, you could possibly get two, three.
I noticed the first house that I bought and it wasn't in Beverly Hills.
I bought my first house in Chino Hills. Two thousand, I didn't even have enough money man but I bought it.
I didn't spend no money my first couple years. I bought a house in Chino Hills. That's like 40
minutes outside of LA for 430,000. Maybe 440, I think it was 440. That's a good price. Hold up.
That's a good price. Hold up. I bought this house in 2003.
I sold it in 2005.
2005 for 890,000.
Y'all tripping out there, man.
Two years it doubled. Two years.
So then I bought another house.
Few years later, for a few million, sold it.
Can you imagine what I got? So that's what I'm saying. bought another house, few years later, for a few million, sold it.
Can you imagine what I got? So that's what I'm saying.
It's like, when you buy a house-
I couldn't live in Cali though.
I couldn't live in Cali.
It's the best place to live.
It ain't- No it's not, dude.
Traffic is horrible.
Who?
Traffic is horrible.
If there's one negative about Southern California,
one negative, and it's the traffic, that's it.
Outside of that, there's no other negatives about,
that's it, it's the traffic, nothing else.
Nothing else.
There's no other negatives in California.
Traffic, that's it.
Nothing else.
Nothing else.
Traffic, listen, traffic is trash.
That's it.
Y'all got, I ain't even gonna get into it, man.
This is traffic, nothing else.
You buy a house for five, 700,000,
you gonna sell it for 1.3 million in two years.
So you pay a lot, but you also get a lot.
You gotta get it though, first.
You got it.
So when you can afford it you good you good you
don't I won't value for my money man you don't get that there I need to have
green I need to have green grass around me I need to have trees I need to have a
acre and a half okay so if you want that you can go right you can go to Temecula
which is 45 minutes one one hour outside LA.
You're going to get everything you want, but it's sunny all the time.
Go to Temecula.
I like to change the weather.
I like to change the season.
I like to change the season.
You like it?
I like, yeah.
I'm like, yeah.
I'm like, listen, it's not that I like it.
I appreciate it.
I respect it. I appreciate it. I respect it. So now I know how to appreciate a 35 degree, you know, and sunny day, because
we don't get that much sun and piss blood, baby.
The sun come out.
That's a good day.
And that's what I'm trying to tell you.
You come on to California, you're going to get the sun 300 days out the year.
I don't want that.
Right.
You get spoiled then.
Huh?
You get spoiled, then you start walking around
with a jacket on when it's, you know, 45, 50 degrees.
As you should.
Like, man, I'm coming out my shorts
till it drop to 35.
I wanna be able to wake up and not be like,
damn, man, how cold is it outside?
Nah, I put on what I wanna put on, I know.
Like, I'm about to go, it's almost eight o'clock
Pacific time, I'm going to my son game,
in this shirt and some shorts.
I'm gonna do the same thing.
Yeah, I can do it in Arizona.
As long as it ain't below 35.
Nah, I just, to me, California,
I just, to me, California, then probably Texas, Florida, Arizona. I can't go to Florida, man.
It's the hurricanes flowing through there.
Them the cities.
Yeah, y'all might get stuck up out there.
Huh?
Hey, James, I've been in California my entire life.
My entire life, except when I'm playing.
You ain't had an earthquake?
Yeah!
Okay.
You feel it? Stop.
It ain't never been where my house has been damaged. Knock on wood, everybody, you know.
Technology is much better. We're a forward thinking state baby yeah we got lighting on the freeway like yeah your
daughter's playing any high school sports we're gonna get into that we're
gonna do that they play so we're not gonna get it another day. Like, I don't agree with that, but I'm just saying,
California, I just, you can go get you one of them houses
in Beverly Hills.
No.
That right there is an investment
that's gonna give you a great return.
Not good, great.
No.
Great.
No. Like I'm so mad. No. Great. No.
Like I'm so mad.
No.
I was playing, it was a house,
it was like 5.7 million.
And I was like, damn, I can't do it.
Man, that house worth like 20 million now.
So if my dumb scary ass would have just got the house
for 5.7, I could have sold it for 20.
But I was scared, I ain't do it.
20 million, that's a profit if you can do your half of 14.3 million
What are you doing?
No, well, you know, I know what it do it. Yeah. All right. Yeah
You gonna be somewhere you don't want to be
That to me, so...
Me personally, that's worse to be.
You just gotta just go ahead and come out here, man.
You already close enough. You an Arizona right now.
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So, so before we go, man, I want to talk about this.
Is I don't know if you saw I be in I be in the news all the time. I read a lot.
A landscaper from North Carolina. I read a lot.
A landscaper from North Carolina.
He got arrested, he's a landscaper.
He got arrested,
because he hosted a party at one of his clients' house
when he realized they was out of town.
So he went to the house,
did the landscaping this little weekly,
do their yard, realized they was gone and said, fuck it, I'm about to throw a party
here. Ain't nobody here. And he got his ass arrested because it got, it got too
rough.
As he should, as he should.
If that's the landscape where you firing him, where you want to know why you're
giving him another chance or you, he, he he gone I got a fire because I can't see I'm a crash up. Oh it's a dude. They not in your
house they just in the backyard. I don't care. TJ you leave right now for this
game I decided to come up there and throw a party in your backyard. You cool
with that? But nah because see when somebody walk on my yard,
and my phone vibrates and I got cameras all around my house. So when you come to
my yard, I'm just gonna look to see what's going on. And then I can't get the cameras.
So I'm gonna let you go on my way. And just and cut the power. We say the power out to
the whole neighborhood. Yeah. Hey, you gonna crash out.
I'm not gonna lie, I'd be pissed the fuck off.
Yes.
That's unacceptable.
That's weird.
What made you think that you could go,
dude, that, I don't even understand where that logic,
that train of thought comes from.
I'm going to throw it.
They got neighbors.
You think the neighbors ain't calling talking about, hey, you threw a party and, you know,
I see you guys having a good time, man.
Yeah, that's funny. You just can't do that.
That's just disrespect at its highest form.
Like, fuck it, I know they out of town.
I'm about to just chill.
Their backyard had to be hella big.
But you in North Carolina, that's where you wanna be at.
North Carolina, Pittsburgh, you got all this land,
you got acres.
Dude, I'm not leaving anywhere from that Ohio, PA area, man.
See, what I'm really looking at is I'm trying to get
like 1,200, 1,500 acres, you know what I'm saying?
That's what I'm trying to do.
You hunt?
Yeah.
Oh, see, that's some y'all country boys, man.
Y'all from the Midwest and the South.
Like, we don't really do that out here.
We don't do that out here.
Yeah, like, shit.
What you gonna do?
I used to hunt.
What happened?
People that walk on two legs.
Hey, hey, hey, hey. I think it's my say so goose. Where people that walk on two legs.
I think it's my say so.
That's that's not that's not it.
That's not it.
You make sure you delete that.
Now, but like.
The do hunt fish, all that, you know, you garden all that, grow your own food, you know, hunt your own food.
And we don't do that after.
At least I don't, I mean, but I wasn't,
that wasn't something that I saw growing up.
And so if you don't see it growing up, that is,
there's not, I mean.
Well, I didn't hunt growing up.
My agent actually got me into hunting.
That's what I was gonna say.
Once you start getting some money,
and people start pulling you in and do things,
it will expand your horizons of,
I'm gonna go hunt, I'm gonna go fish, I'm gonna do this,
I'm gonna take this vacation, I'm gonna do that.
Cause you get around.
Yeah, me and my sons, we go to, well,
both my sons went last year.
A year, two years before that, just my oldest son went.
And we go to Alaska like every other year now.
All that, oh, it's on Instagram.
Yeah, yeah, you need to come on out there, man.
We go out there for a week, dude, it's the most,
listen, bro, I'm trying to tell you,
you ain't never seen and heard like just such quiet.
Like there's no.
If it was free, I wouldn't do it.
Dude, you don't know what you missing.
Peace, man, quiet, unplug, like all that, dude.
I can get that at home.
No, dude, you can't get the quietness.
Yeah.
Dude, you can hear an eagle, man,
just off in the distance, bruh.
Like, you hear, you know, like,
sometimes a well will come through and you just hear,
pshh.
See, that's what the water, like,
me being from California, all these beaches,
I'm getting into the water to my knees.
As soon as you eat halibut.
Huh?
Do you eat halibut?
Yeah, yeah, I eat halibut, yeah, yeah. I eat a lot of fish. And so all we catch out there is halibut, huh? Do you eat halibut? Yeah. Yeah, I eat halibut. Yeah. Yeah, I eat a lot of fish
It's all we catch out there is halibut. Salmon, shrimp dino
Snapper that's what I eat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's all we that's all we catch out there dude. It's halibut
King salmon like dude, I'm talking huge halibut, dude
King Sem, like dude, I'm talking huge halibut, dude.
You're talking like hundreds of pounds. You were able to bring it back home?
Yes, they flash, you go, you do your fishing.
After you get back to the dock, they cut the fish up,
flash freeze it right there.
Each day, they flash freeze it,
and then at the end of your trip, you took your-
So how about next time you go,
you send me some fish, I'll pay for it.
How about that? That's the best of both worlds right there. Can we do that? your trip. You took your- So how about next time you go, you send me some fish, I'll pay for it.
How about that?
That's the best of both worlds right there.
Can we do that?
Dude, I still got a freezer.
I got a freezer.
I had to buy a whole freezer for all the fish.
Send me some.
Send me some.
I'll pay for it.
Nah, man.
You ain't fucking it all.
If you want-
Yes, we will.
If you still got it in your freezer,
you ain't eating it all.
You crazy, dude.
You eat fish once a week. Y'all see, he don't even wanna share. He don't even got it in your freezer, you ain't eating it all. You crazy, dude. You eat fish once a week.
Y'all see, he don't even wanna share.
He don't even wanna share.
If you wanna share, you come out there
and you catch your own, you be a man,
you sit in nature with us, you sit there,
you conversate, you have a good time.
We conversate now.
No, no, you gotta be in nature.
You puff cigars?
Nah, man, I've never smoked anything in my life.
Yeah, like puff your cigar, whatever it is you like to do.
See, my upbringing.
You can do that, bro.
I ain't doing.
Sitting in a hot tub, whatever.
Not bad.
Yeah, I ain't smoking no cigar.
I ain't smoking no cigarettes.
I ain't smoking no weed. If you choose to do it, you choose to do it. My upbringing, man, and smoking no cigar. I ain't smoking no cigarette. I ain't smoking no weed.
If you choose to do it, you choose to do it.
My upbringing, man, and all the shit that I saw
with drugs do to people who couldn't pay me to do it.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Like you can drink your water.
Hey, it's a lady there, dude.
Listen, I gotta tell you this.
So the first time I went there, right,
I went there with my brother, Estres.
Him and his company, they went there as a group.
It was him and a couple people he knew from his company.
So we get there and it's the first night
we done got there, right?
And I'm new to this.
I'm like, yo, dude, got a gym.
I'm upset I ain't got a gym.
We actually in a cabin, whatever. It come to turn out, it's nice, man.
It's real nice.
So that's why, you know,
we try and go every other year now.
So we get there and we're sitting down at dinner, right?
And we're eating and, you know,
we're just talking and conversating.
And it's my brother Stretch, it's me,
and it's my son, James.
And we're the only black people there.
Everybody else is white.
So we're sitting there, we're talking
and they're having a conversation
and they're talking about something about like doing this
or fixing this or whatever.
And the lady, she's like, yeah, you know,
if we don't have what we need to fix something,
we just Grigger Rig it.
I said, what?
He said, yeah, we just Grigger Rig it.
Everybody's face at the table, like just got like,
I'm like, what you mean, Grigger Rig it?
I'm like, you know, Grigger Rigid.
That's our last name.
It's Griggers.
I'm like, oh, I thought you were trying to say,
without using the N.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dude, the whole table started laughing
a sigh of relief, dude.
So their last name is Griggers,
and if they do something that's unconventional,
they're saying they Grigger Rigid.
And I was like, I was...
You know how we say that we going up? Yeah.
Yeah!
Dude, it was so funny, man. But I had a great time.
That lady can cook, dude.
And when you go, just be prepared.
And those whatever it is, five to seven days, you putting on 10 pounds.
It's fresh cookies every day.
I'm talking about stacks like this, bruh.
Fresh cookies in the glass.
Peach cobbler, apple pie, all the brownies, everything.
Dude, yeah, it's unbelievable.
That's for my cholesterol.
Hey, listen.
Oh, there you go. What's happening? There you go. Where you at?
I'm an AZ. Where you at? Hey boy I'm looking for you boy. You know where to find me. I'm looking I'm looking for you. Where you at? I come to you right now. Where you at? I'm in the Dominican
Republic. What's happening? I want to come to PA what PA stand for what PA stand for?
PA Pennsylvania. Oh
I thought I only P I know a personal assistant because that's what you gonna need when I'm done with you
You're crazy. You got any right? Hey
Talk to me I said I said I said for him to come get you.
I'll tell you what, if you wasn't in the D,
if you weren't a Dominican, I would have went.
I just, is that a different country
or do I need a passport for that or something?
You need a passport.
You're gonna need more than that though.
You're gonna need an army, boy.
I don't need no army.
You gonna need something.
I ain't gonna need nothing but these two men.
You was gonna get intimidated.
Hey TJ, TJ, man listen man I'm gonna smash that boy's face in, you hear me?
Man let me take my glasses off.
I'm gonna smash that boy's face in.
So they can see your lying eyes.
Huh? You hear me?
Go ahead so they can see your lying eyes.
Hey keep your head on the swivel boy.
Keep my head on the swivel?
I never just get scared. I never just scared, worried, none of that.
Do me a favor, invite me to Alaska.
You know I'm here because I'm on vacation.
I'm still looking for you.
I'm dead ass.
You want to go to Alaska for real?
I'll send you the dates.
Hey, please do.
Please do.
Hey, TJ.
TJ, can you hear me?
I can hear you.
I'm going to take whatever fish he catch
and I'm going to send it to you.
My dog.
My dog.
I got you. You see he ain't want to give me no fish. You see that and I'ma send it to you. My dog. My dog. You see he ain't wanna give me no fish.
You see that?
I got you.
I got you.
Hey, I'ma send you all the information you need.
That's all I need.
Bring your ass on up out there.
I got you homie.
I got you, little homie.
I got you, little homie.
No pressure.
I got you, little homie.
No pressure.
Yeah.
Oh, what you smoking on? A little lunatic cigar. I'm at the little homie. No pressure. Yeah. Oh, what you smoking on?
A little lunatic cigar.
I'm at the end of it.
I smoke cigars, too.
Yeah, I heard the...
I still go whoop your ass.
I don't care nothing about that, though.
Wait, come again, come again.
Repeat that.
I still go whoop your ass,
and after I knock your punk ass out,
I'm gonna stick a cigar in your mouth.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Boss.
Hey, boy, you should be a comedian.
Boy, you sound like Chris Rock, boy.
No.
You sound like Chris Rock.
You sound like Chris Rock.
Hey, no, all jokes aside, all jokes aside, you my dude, you know, I rock with you.
After I beat your ass, we could be cool.
We could be cool.
Oh, no, listen, listen, this ain't even gonna be nothing personal, man.
This is gonna be all business. I'll be the rapper. I'll be nothing personal, man. This gonna be all business.
I'll be the rep.
I'll be the rep, too.
I'll be the rep.
TJ, TJ, TJ, you don't wanna be in there for this.
Hey, y'all boxing, y'all, is it just boxing?
Nah, nah, nah, I wanna grapple.
I wanna wrestle.
What you talking about?
I wanna be able to use my hands and feet.
I'm gonna kick him in his fucking nose.
Nah, TJ, this is serious, TJ.
I ain't gonna kick him. Hey, this goes beyond football. This goes
beyond the gridiron. Like this is not personal. It's business and I just want
to I got to stand up for all the little people. Who's the little people? Is TJ in that group?
TJ said you're smaller than him. He's trying to say I'm 180 pounds.
Nah, I'm 205 right now. He's trying to say I'll weigh 180.
Oh, no, no, no.
You ain't no 205, Chad.
I'm 205 right now.
I've been in the gym.
Matter of fact, you don't understand.
I've been in the gym gaining weight and creating mass to beat your ass.
You ain't got enough mass or weight to do shit with me.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
And I've been in the gym losing weight so I got wind.
The dog walk your ass.
All right, all right.
Well, good luck with that dog walk.
I hope you got the right leash.
All I do is a choke chain.
All right.
And I'm gonna choke you out.
All right.
All right.
And I'm gonna take that sleeve too.
I'm gonna take that chain on your neck.
Hey, you do realize you're like that. Hold on I'm gonna take that chain on your neck. I don't even like jewelry like that.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Hey, hey, raise your hand before you talk, okay?
And when I call you, you didn't answer.
Crazy.
You know I'm a black belt, right?
I don't give a damn what you is.
You black and you wear a belt, that's about it.
All right, you know what, TJ?
TJ, I done had enough, cause you think it's a joke.
Hey, there's no your day is coming, boy. Every dog has its day and yours is coming.
You're gonna have to get a whole new set of veneers.
Alright, hey, if you could touch my face, if you see how good I look? If you touch my face, you can have whatever you want.
If I touch your face, I'm actually gonna make it look better.
Alright, okay, back. Keep that same energy when I see you in person, nigga.
Yes. Keep that same energy. All day. I'm a slap you boy
Try it. Okay
No crazy. Hey, I'm on vacation. I'm gone. Hey enjoy enjoy. Stay safe my brother. I love you dog
So he was like I'm tired of text and I'm just gonna pop in.
Yeah, pop in.
Yeah. So we gonna finish on that note.
This is the last day of our Nightcap takeover.
James Debo Harrison.
I'm TJ Woosh Mazada.
Now...
This ain't the last day.
We coming back to taking over some worship.
Matter of fact, I'm keeping Chad off his own shit
and it's gonna be in Debo.
If they want us.
Yeah.
But y'all make sure you like, you subscribe,
you tell a friend to tell a friend to tell a friend.
Y'all go get some of that Debo merch that's on the screen
and we appreciate y'all locking in with us
these last four days, man.
We out.
That boy done made a cameo from vacation.
Right.
I ain't gonna lie, that little setup you had out there looked nice.
Yeah, that shit look real nice.
It did?
That shit look real nice.
Yeah.
Damn, James gone? Damn.
He got the fuck up out of town.
Well, thank y'all.
Appreciate y'all.
Man, y'all have a great weekend.
Take care of yourselves.
Be safe. Take care, y'all have a great weekend. Take care of yourselves.
Be safe.
Take care, y'all.
Thank you.
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