Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Jeanty falls short, Prime rips reports, Ward creates controversy

Episode Date: January 4, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from College Football Playoffs including Penn State shuts down Boise State RB Ashton Jeanty, who falls short of Barry Sand...ers' record as the Nittany Lions beat the Broncos 31-14, Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders rips reports that Shadeur wouldn’t want to play for the Cleveland Browns or Tennessee Titans, Miami QB Cam Ward creates controversy after exiting the game against Iowa State and much more!03:18 - Penn State blocks Ashton Jeanty from breaking record08:27 - Nightcap takes a moment of silence regarding the New Orleans tragedy11:21 - Coach Prime rips reporters15:49 - Colorado versus BYU. Meanwhile Cam Ward causes controversy by exiting game against Iowa State(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:05 of tying the record, 132 to break it. Barry had 26-29 set in 1988. Penn State defense stifled Jenty, holding him to a season-low 104 yards rushing. It's his first time not rushing for at least 125 yards in a game this season. He finished 28 yards shy of breaking Barry Sanders' record. Hey, listen, they would pop a young bull out there, man. They would let him have it. Now, I thought, honestly, I'm just going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:04:39 I didn't think he was going to do well against Penn State because the level of competition he was playing at or with with or against for that matter and his conference but he looked he looked pretty pretty pretty goddamn good listen yeah he was breaking tackles he ran hard very hard after contact you know I'm not sure I'm not sure how many yards he had after contact but most of them and he was hard to bring down the first the first guy never made the tackle the first guy never I'm not sure how many yards he had after contact. Most of them. He was hard to bring down. The first guy never made the tackle. The first guy never brought him down.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yeah. But like I said, Ocho, you don't want that record. And my thing was, and I said this on first take, I said, look, I know what Aston Gentry is. Let me tell you what I'm going to do. If that quarterback goes out there and throws for 350 in three touchdowns, I'm going to go to the middle of the field, shake his hand, say, congratulations, young man. Good luck moving forward. But I refuse
Starting point is 00:05:32 to let Gentry run their ass to a victory. That's not going to happen. And they felt the quarterback couldn't beat them throwing the football. And he couldn't. Because, you know, when you take that running game away, because they wanted to give him the football. Yeah. And he couldn't because, you know, when you take that running game away because they wanted to give him the ball.
Starting point is 00:05:48 But I thought, and the problem is they fell behind. You fall behind on Joe. That game was about to get really out of hand. Had the quarterback, Aller, he's doing the right thing by coming back because he's not very good, I don't think, in my eyes, watching him play for the three or four games that I've seen him play. He is average. He's an average. He's an average college quarterback.
Starting point is 00:06:06 There's nothing special about him. But if he doesn't fall with that ball and they're about to go up 21 to nothing, this thing about to get out of hand. And now you really – and that's what happened. When you get ahead like that, guess what? You take him out of the running game. You don't have no choice. Now you got to...
Starting point is 00:06:28 But, uh, Gentry, he ran hard, but they give Penn State credit. They say, we don't want you to break that record on us. Uh, and, uh, they did a great job of neutralizing it. Look, they need to go back, and everybody that played in the bowl game, they need to
Starting point is 00:06:43 add those yards to the total. You can do it. Just add Barry, what he did in the holiday bowl. Just go look it up. Barry had like 225 in the holiday bowl. Barry's record is really like 12 games, 2,800 yards, and like
Starting point is 00:06:59 40 plus touchdowns. They didn't count the bowl games back then, Ocho, like they do now. Bear had like 20 carries, and they took him out. Bear could have had another 300-yard game. They're talking about what they were letting, taking Jenty out. Go look at some of Bear's games when they took him out.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Bear was having 300-yard games. That's crazy. Look at what he did to Oklahoma. Look at what he did to Nebraska, what he did to Missouri. Go back and look at Bear's stats. Even if Jenty had a broke his record, the greatest college rushing season is Barry Sanders. I think it's one of the two best seasons in the history.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Joe Burrow, that 5,060 touchdown season, and then Barry Sanders, 2,800 yards and 40-plus touchdowns. If y'all just go back and look at the numbers that Barry put up and you'll get a better appreciation of Barry Sanders' college career. And
Starting point is 00:07:54 his sophomore year, he backed up Thurman Thomas. Yeah. Barry didn't start. Thurman started. Barry ran back punts and kickoffs yeah that's
Starting point is 00:08:10 let that sink let that sink in many of you believe Barry is the greatest running back in NFL history but he had to sit started one year that's crazy
Starting point is 00:08:21 that's that's crazy that's that's crazy it was it was what Joe Burrow did that season there you're probably not going to see it again
Starting point is 00:08:32 because you're probably not going to be able to find two receivers like Chase and Jefferson and then when you combine Marshall and then you had the tight end
Starting point is 00:08:40 or Randy Moss son Thaddeus you had Clyde Edwards a layer you had Joe Burrow throwing the ball. You had an offensive line that was the best in college football. You got the perfect storm.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Yeah. And you get the perfect storm. You saw it. I mean, the guy threw for 60 touchdowns. That's cool. 60. And look at some of the stats, what he did to Georgia, what he did to Clemson,
Starting point is 00:09:08 what he did to Alabama. The sugar bowl between the Georgia Bulldogs and the Fighting Irish of Notre Dame was postponed and a senseless act of terrorism. And so before we get into the show, we want to have a moment of silence for those that were impacted and all the New Orleans, New Orleanians that was impacted, the family, friends and loved ones of this senseless and tragic. So we want to take a few moments to pause to a to wrap your mind around something that's so senseless.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I would encourage you to be vigilant, but not be afraid. Go about your normal life because that's what terrorist cowards try to do. They try to put you in fear for your normal life because that's what terrorist cowards try to do. They try to put you in fear for your normal everyday activities. But we should not, we should be vigilant, but we should not be afraid.
Starting point is 00:10:14 As we know, there is something that a person that sits high or spirit or whatever you believe that sits high and looks low. He's the king of kings.
Starting point is 00:10:25 He's the Lord of Lords. He's the alpha and the omega. He's the King of Kings. He's the Lord of Lords. He's the Alpha and the Omega. He's the omnipotent one. And I know right now it's hard to understand, but I encourage God to give us all strength and understanding that what transpired today to start 2025, someone wanted their moment. And they took the coward's way to do just that. To all those that's impacted, all people that lost loved ones, that lost family, that lost friends.
Starting point is 00:10:58 The nightcap crew, along with many others, sends our heartfelt thoughts and prayers. We pray that you gain comfort. We pray that you gain comfort. We pray that you have understanding and in time and only when you're ready. Hopefully you find peace and solace in this. Ocho, my heart breaks. I can only imagine receiving the news that some people received that this had happened. But I do understand, but I do, I do, I do sincerely in all my heart believe there is a higher power and a higher being, and we don't understand everything. It's not meant for
Starting point is 00:11:39 us here to understand, but I do believe sunshine follows rain. And it's really dark right now for a lot of people in New Orleans and for the city of New Orleans because I know you're mourning. I know you're hurting. But just know you're strong and think about what you've already overcome from Katrina and a lot of other things
Starting point is 00:11:59 that have happened in that city. You're built for this. We're built for this. We're built for this. And like all things, we'll get through this. Prime Rips reported that Shador wouldn't want to play for the Browns or the Titans. It would be multiple idiots that would say things
Starting point is 00:12:15 that totally aren't true regarding how I would like Shador and Shiloh to play in the NFL. If I were to say it directly to whom it may concern, not an attention seeker, I don't know NFL commission personally I do know NFL commission personally drop he like might drop
Starting point is 00:12:32 I hadn't talked to Prime in a while because he's getting ready for the bowl games I don't want to bother I'm going to bother his ass now he ain't got no bowl game to play bother. I'm going to bother his ass now. Hold on. He ain't got no bowl game to play for. It's so funny. Yeah, he ain't got no bowl game to play for. So I'm going to bother his ass tomorrow. I'm going to call him tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I talked to Prime yesterday, the day before yesterday. He was checking on me, right, about my situation. You already know what I'm talking about. I don't need to go in depth. He's like, everything good on there? I said, yeah, everything good. He said, man, I'm going to hit on. I was waiting on my spirits to get back up
Starting point is 00:13:06 because, you know, we lost. We lost the vote. I need a few days of myself. So, you know, he hit me. I said, everything is good. Everything is good. He said, you know what? I'm going to come on there with you guys. I was like, nah, don't come on. Don't come on. Let's save it.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Let's save it for February 6th. Let's save it for February 6th. Let's save it for February 6th. Nah, because all he want to do is clown me. Nope. That's all he want to do. Because that's all he do when he call. He send me a text. So, no. That's the boy.
Starting point is 00:13:38 That's the boy. The thing is, in times like, I think I read something where he said he had y'all forgot y'all was talking like this but y'all forgot I got time today the only thing I tell time is like when I'm going to 25
Starting point is 00:13:52 I ain't chasing no lies yeah I'm not gonna chase it I'm not gonna shoot it down I'm not gonna try to refute it whatever y'all believe run with that it is what it is it is what it now I'm gonna see how long it's gonna because that's one thing we Now, I'm going to see how long it goes. Because that's one thing we know about a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Watch how quick it disappears. Yeah. Watch how quick it disappears. You know what I don't like too? Now, getting back to prime. What's that? And whatever reporter says, you know, he wouldn't want to play for the Browns. I mean, why even write something like that?
Starting point is 00:14:23 It has to come from somewhere, or are you just making it up? A lot of times people want to be the first to report something. Because if you're second, you know, the first man to climb Mount Everest, the first man to put a man's foot on the moon.
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Starting point is 00:20:22 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ocho, the number 17 BYU Cougars defeated the number 23 Colorado Buffaloes, 36-14. Colorado was held at 210 total yards, only two net yards rushing. The Buffaloes were shut out in the first half while being limited to 61 total yards. They had 90 yards in the fourth quarter with the
Starting point is 00:20:54 Cougars leading by 29. Shador was sacked three times through two interceptions. He passed for 208 yards, two touchdowns, while completing 16 of 23 passes. Travis Hunter had four receptions for 106 yards, including a 43-yard touchdown, electric touchdown in the third quarter.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Talk to me. Because BYU ain't no slouches, boy. At all. They're not a slouch. But you got to have a shell out. But. But. Yeah. You got to have a better effort than this. They were never in the game.
Starting point is 00:21:30 You give up. You give up a punt return for a touchdown. You give up an onside kick. They. It's Coach Prime's job to have this team prepared and ready to play better than what they showed up to do. It's really that simple. Let's not make it that, oh, they had a chance. No, they didn't.
Starting point is 00:21:50 After the first two series, Ocho, you knew Colorado didn't have no chance of winning this game. It looked as if they didn't belong. Ocho, I thought this... They didn't belong as if they were the jd team and the jd team is scrimmaging against varsity for some reason by you just look look faster they look a little bit more dominant at the
Starting point is 00:22:17 point of attempt i'm like well something ain't right yes oh okay icho I thought the exact same thing I was like well damn they were in circles around you I was like I'm like wait a minute now now if I if my memory served me correct and I'm thinking of the old BYU and not thinking of the new BYU you know
Starting point is 00:22:39 the culture over there has changed the players over there have changed and the boy flying around. Man, I thought, hey, I was like, hey, I thought my TV had glitched. I said, they got them boys fast. I said, man, there ain't no way they moving that fast. Man, that dude hit that cone on that, on that, what, Ocho, that dude hit that cone on the point return.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I'm like, is anybody going to get close to him? And then they kicked the field goals, come back with an onside kick. See? Because you know what I see on film? I see when they kick the ball, y'all leave him before the ball kicks. Okay, we got a surprise for you. Right. That's how you block a punt.
Starting point is 00:23:20 That's how you block a PAT. That's why you do onside. You study. Hey, the L3, the L4, they leave real quick. Before the ball is even kicked, they already turning to get back in position. We can hit onside. And that's the perfect time because guess what? See, if you down by five points in the fourth quarter,
Starting point is 00:23:38 they're expecting it. You're not expecting that in the first quarter, are you? That's why, remember how New Orleans got the Colts in the Super quarter, are you? That's why, remember how New Orleans got the Colts in the Super Bowl with the old side? Opened the second half with it. You're not expecting it. Hold on. Yeah, but Ocho, I'm
Starting point is 00:23:55 watching this game. I'm like, damn! I said, these DBs, they doing these receivers up? I'm like, they in their hip pocket! And Colorado resorted back, not staying on their blocks. It was just bad.
Starting point is 00:24:11 It was just bad. It was bad. I think they had too much time. They had a great season, but they did... Ocho, they had a great season. You didn't finish it like you wanted. I commend Shador for playing.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I commend Travis for going out there and playing. Boy. I was like, I didn't wreck, Ocho, I ain't going to lie to you. I did not. This Colorado looked like the Colorado that lost to Nebraska. Remember they lost to Nebraska earlier in the season on the road, Ocho? Oh yeah, most definitely. And Nebraska put that
Starting point is 00:24:46 open again. Most definitely. That's what they looked like. The funny thing about it, they looked like a team that wasn't prepared but knowing prime and understanding
Starting point is 00:24:52 how his preparation works and the time that he's put in with the players and having a great game plan, having a great scheme. They just weren't able to execute it the right way.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And that's on the players. The onus of that is on the players. But obviously, the main problem where it would result, it would always point to the coach when you know that's not the fact. But, man, they had a hell of a season. I'm glad Travis Hunter and Shador were able to come out healthy. I wish them all the best too, man. I wish them all the best, too, man. I wish them all the best.
Starting point is 00:25:27 That's it. Yep. You want to get the win? Somebody got to lose. The thing I like about college football now, there are no more ties. There used to be ties in college football. That sucked. Ties like kissing a pretty girl through a screen porch.
Starting point is 00:25:48 You know what I'm saying? You got the screen up there and she on the other side. Ain't no lips touching, ain't nothing. I ain't trying to tie nobody. I don't want no tie. Tie your shoes. Damn sure ain't tying no football game. We don't go out there and compete.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Ocho for an hour. And then all of a sudden, okay, that's it, guys. Hell no. Butcho for an hour. And then all of a sudden, okay, that's it, guys. Hell nah. But congratulations, BYU. We don't want to take anything away from you. Obviously, we did a lot of covering of Colorado. Coach Prime
Starting point is 00:26:15 is a friend of the show. But you guys, y'all put it on them. Y'all opened up a can. They went with the purpose. They showed up. Ocho, they showed up. They showed up with the sole purpose of doing what they did to Colorado. They said the world's going to be watching Colorado, but make them remember us.
Starting point is 00:26:38 We remember you, bro. We remember. Y'all did a number on them. Y'all did a number on them. Yes, sir. Ocho, Cam Ward says the NCAA Division I mark with his 156th touchdown pass in the Miami loss, but doesn't come out in the second half. After the loss, Miami coach Mario Cristobal
Starting point is 00:26:59 was asked about the decision for Ward to sit. All meetings with players and decisions like that, we made them private. We kept them private. So I prefer not to answer any questions as it relates to that. But I know he played his best while he was in there. Is it a good look or a bad look?
Starting point is 00:27:17 When I think about it, I'll go first. It's a terrible look. The fact that he even played. And he played. I'm not sure if something may happen in the first half where it kind of scared him away from wanting to play in the second half. But if he played the first half, he might as well finish the second.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Now, that's just my thought. I'm already in there. I mean, you want to win the game. You play to win the game. You don't want to leave your teammates hanging. If you're going to start the game you might as well finish it that's just my thinking I think everybody's thinking like that
Starting point is 00:27:52 I think something might have happened something might have happened I don't I think he got out I'm unscathed I ain't going to jump fake but my thing is just don't play.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Just don't play at all. Just don't play at all. That's how I feel. And I think the thing, I agree with you, and I think scouts and I think personnel, they're not going to look favorable upon that decision. Because they're saying, if
Starting point is 00:28:23 you're there there you took yourself out of the game and but the myth hold on ojo but he said all meetings with players and decisions like that we made them in private we keep them in private so i prefer not to answer any questions as it relate to that if that was his decision he would have said that was my decision and we're gonna go with that clearly it was not his decision because he doesn't want because he doesn't want the kid to look bad i give him credit but i think the most the average person knows that the kid made a decision and i look that's his decision to make. But for me, if I start, I'm going to finish. Either I'm going to play the whole game or I'm not playing at all.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Listen, I kind of understand it, but I kind of don't. It kind of makes sense. But then when I sit back and think about it, it really doesn't either. What's the point of playing two quarters and not playing the second? You know, I don't know. Thank you, Ocho. That's why I keep saying I think something must have happened in the first half. That's why I keep saying that because there's no way
Starting point is 00:29:31 it did happen. He threw three touchdown passes and he didn't get hurt. That's what happened. As a competitor, once you're in that environment and you're competing, ain't no way in hell you're coming out absolutely not it's just in your nature
Starting point is 00:29:50 when you get hurt they can barely pull players out of the game right, I mean for a guy to even if he's hurt Ocho, he has to be really hurt where he feels he can't do his job or he's going to endcho, he has to be really hurt where he feels he can't do his job or he's going to end up hurting himself or putting a team in harm's way.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Other than that, the guy's not coming out. That's why they started having spotters with concussions. Because guys wouldn't come out of the game. Or they would lie. They'd say, no, I'm good. But now they have, because sometimes the one thing that we do know about this, Ojo, sometimes you have to protect us from ourselves.
Starting point is 00:30:33 You got to protect us from ourselves. But for me, I think this is a bad look. I think scouts, it's going to be very interesting because I can assure you, you and I have always, we've been in those meetings at the Combine where they go in there and they're going to say, son, tell us what you were thinking.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Why didn't you play the second half? Now, just so you know, your head coach is going to tell them. So don't go in there and think you're pulling the wool over somebody's eyes. They don't. They don't talk to coaches. They don't do anything. But in his case, in his defense, when they turn the film on, the entirety of the season, you know what you're getting.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Outside of what he pulled tonight in that second half, as a quarterback, any team that may need one in, it's a few of them. Up in them first five picks, you know what you're getting as a quarterback. The volume. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify, the thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain, this is the struggle.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times, big economic forces show up in our lives in small ways. Four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. Small but important ways from tech billionaires to the bond market to yeah, banana pudding. If it's happening in business, our new podcast is on it. I'm Max Chastin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company.
Starting point is 00:32:36 The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:33:05 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra Affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.
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