Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Jerry Jones vs. CeeDee Lamb, Jamaican track & field drama

Episode Date: August 9, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones saying he doesn't have a "sense of urgency" to get star wideout CeeDee Lamb's contract done, Jamaican Olympic shot-putter Danniel Thomas-Dodd expressing frustration about how Jamaican athletes have been treated in Paris, Olympic healthcare stunting on American healthcare, and much more!04:20 - Tara Davis Woodhall wins Gold Long jump05:55 - Jamaican Track and Field Drama23:00 - Quincy Wilson makes his debut in the 4x400m relay33:06 - Ari Ramsey Rugby Bronze speaks on healthcare abroad35:24 - Jerry Jones on Ceedee Contract44:41 - Q and Ayyyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Guys, I really hope you enjoyed that interview. She was amazing. Ocho, she was amazing. She's full of personality. Guys, you understand. It's like probably 2, 3 o'clock in the morning there, so we have to come on early in the morning ocho and i we have to i have to wake up early because ocho is three hours ahead of me so i i'm i'm dragging myself out of bed but we're trying we do everything we possibly can like i said we've had justin gatlin we've had

michael johnson now we've had uh uh um gabby thomas on um on we got we got someone else tomorrow what? who we got tomorrow? it's a secret come on I don't know Victoria you can tell me though nah nah he set a world record that's all you need to know

world record world record who set a world record he did so guys hopefully you enjoyed you enjoyed that interview World record, world record. Who said a world record? Okay, okay. He did. That's why he's going to be on. So guys, hopefully you enjoyed that interview. Like I said, she's amazing. Her personality was unbelievable.

Go ahead, Ocho. I enjoyed everything about that, but I couldn't say that one goddamn word. Epidemiology? Hey, I can say it now. Epidemiology. I can say it. I can say it now epidemiology i can say it i can say it now yeah i've been trying i've been trying to pronounce it all damn day uh thank you congratulations gabby good luck in the four by one and the four by four oh joe we have another gold medal hey like i said parents must be healing because there's gold in those hills because the U.S. men and women was making a run for that gold.

Oh, yeah. Tara Davis Woodhull takes gold in the long jump with a jump of 7 meters, 10, 7.10. If I'm not mistaken, that's a little over 23 feet. She beat the reigning Olympic champ.

I think she thinks she's German, but she beat her. I think it was her third jump, her third or fourth jump, and it held, stood the test of time. Did we get the bronze medal also? Because I think, I said a little over 23 feet. Is 23 feet even? So it's a little bit over 23 feet.

You see, I had tried to do it. So what did you say? I said it's a little over 23 feet. It's 23 feet, 294. So that's over 23 feet. But I think we might have got gold and bronze because I think the lady that got the bronze medal, she also got the bronze in the triple jump.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Because I was watching it and I ended up, huh? Jasmine Moore. Yeah. She also took bronze in the long jump,

in the triple jump, excuse me. Because I was watching, because the long jump was kind of like finishing up Ocho when it was getting ready to start the 400, the women's 400 meters. Right, right. And remember, they held it up until because it was her last jump.

And then after Sid ends up winning in world record time, her and Tara Davis Woodhull ended up being draped in the American flag taking pictures together. So congratulations to Tara Davis Woodhull, women's long jump Olympic champ. And again, congratulations. You said you're unbelievable. You tap my pockets on this one. Daniel Thomas Dodd expressed frustration over not having access to her coach for two and a half weeks in Paris. And the improper treatment of field events athletes by the Jamaican Athletic Federation. Let's take a listen to what she had to say, Ocho. Uh-oh. I didn't have my coach here. I've been in the village for two and a half weeks,

and I was denied the privilege of having a coach's pass for my coach to even be at the training facilities for two and a half weeks and moving forward as to what will be definitely best for me and my mental health because I cannot do this anymore. It's very frustrating dealing with JOA and J3S because these people don't care about field events in Jamaica. And if they did, they would make sure that we have everything we need.

Oof. You got to be careful. You heard the lady, Ocho. You said they don't care about her. Yeah. Hey, listen. You got to be careful. Listen, the Jamaican Athletics Federation don't play that shit.

They said they issued a statement. If she doesn't return that statement, she won't be accredited for another Olympic Games. They don't play that shit. Excuse me, I don't mean to curse. But when you're representing your country, Jamaica, it's the difficulty

when you speak out against a place like that. Yeah, it's a difficulty when you speak out against a place like that. It's a little different. USA, hey, you could protest. You could voice your displeasure with the way things are run over there. All right, man.

Hey, it's a different ballgame. It's a different ballgame. Basically what she's trying to say, and I want to paraphrase here. I mean, she spoke, and I think it's very clear. She said the way they treat the sprinters, they don't treat the field event athletes the same way. So you're talking about your jumpers, your throwers. They don't get the same love and consideration that they give the sprinters,

the 100, the 200, the 400 hurdles, highs and lows. So I hear the frustration in her voice. It's disappointing. You get there, and no matter what, 10,000 athletes,

everybody think they're going to win gold. I mean, where the hell are you going? If you don't think you're going to matter, i mean where the hell you going if you don't think you're gonna matter why the hell are you even going right you're right i didn't spend a lifetime i didn't devote my life most of these athletes have devoted their entire life to this very moment right now these 10 000 athletes half of them ain't going to L.A. This is it. Right. This is it.

Yeah. And you just won't, you just won't. If this was my, if this was my one moment, Ojo, if this was my one moment in the sun, let me bask in the glory. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. Which is why I understand the frustrations. If I'm representing my country, I need the Jamaican Athletic Federation to do everything in their power to make sure I have every advantage possible so I can represent us to the fullest. If that's having my trainer, my trainer having the access to the village, make sure my trainer has access to the village if that's let's say they're not treating the field event

you know those that are competing in the field events the same as they do in the sprinters that's something you got to deal with that's life in general so that shouldn't affect you either way I mean you know you're there to compete.

Forget how they treat you. Forget all that. You're supposed to be locked in anyway. Yeah. But I mean, there's a reason why they have coaches. That which is why... Who's in the Olympics without a coach? Right.

I mean, that is messed up, man. Her coach not being able to have access to her 24-7. You know, and I think if her coach was by her side, how people, she wouldn't even notice how others were treating, you know, those that were doing field events. That's how it is. So what about the Americans?

The men and women ain't staying nowhere near the Olympic Village. It's estimated it's costing $15 million to house the men's and women's basketball team. What? They ain't sleeping on no cardboard boxes. I guarantee you, every federation, what's our strong suit, Ocho?

I can guarantee you, in China, the table tennis and the bad men and the weightlifters, they get treated differently than their track athletes it just is it is what it is we know how the thing works

it's like the other football team oh your top 10 guys definitely get treated differently than the bottom 10 okay Ocho you one of those top 10 guys you got treated differently than the bottom 10. Ocho, you're one of those top 10 guys. You got treated differently than the guy 36. Then the guy 41.

Duh! Oh, we're on the same team. They act like they don't want me a part of this. Bro, sit down. You're talking too much. You're talking your ass off. But Ocho, you know how it is. Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.

I'm trying to explain to the people at home, having been an ex-professional athlete for 14 years, Ocho, I think, played at least a decade, maybe 11 years. 13. And being in a situation where, I don't know how, what your title was in, in high school,

but you know, I was captain of the team and I was treated differently. Now, what I didn't do is that I didn't flaunt it in my teammates face. I didn't do that. I didn't abuse my, I didn't abuse that exactly. Just like college.

I was treated. I was treated differently. Everybody knew I was treated differently. I didn't flaunt it. Hey, Oh, we drove the bus everywhere, man. They'd be sharp i'm hungry i said y'all want to stop i said coach david man i'm hungry coach coach david will stop the bus yes sir pull over

the convenience store we pull over at a restaurant hey he talked about you responsible for him i say okay now keep your hands in your damn pocket you You ain't got no money, stay your ass on the bus. Because y'all done got me. I done stuck my neck out there. Y'all done put the chop my neck off. So I understood. Even in Denver, I had certain privileges, but I never abused those privileges. I used them.

Hey, man, ask Mike, can we get to fight? Hey, Mike, man, you know what would be really nice? What's that, 84? We get to fight. So we getting De La Hoya and Tito Trinidad. We getting Tyson. We getting all the fight. Any tough fight that came on, Mike, we want to fight.

Right. We got it. Hey, man, Mike, this food here terrible. What's going on, 84? Man, I said, Mike, I can't eat this bull jive. Well, what you want? There it is. Yeah. I think, you know, it's funny when I think

about, now that you said it, and you talk about privilege and being treated different than everybody, I think the privilege that I took advantage of that Marvin and the rest of the coaching staff allowed me to do, was they allowed me to be myself. They allowed me to

be myself, especially when it was time to play. You know, they allowed me to be myself especially when it was time to play you know when it came to media day when it came time to to motivate myself whether it be through media whether it be through the non-malicious trash talk whether it be through the entertainment that i brought to the game of football they just allowed me to be myself and i think that's one of the privileges that they allowed me to do and not trying to change me. They didn't try to change nothing. They just let Chad be Chad. And that was my privilege.

That was my privilege. Yeah. That's just the thing. I was never a guy that like, oh, I can do this. I'm going to show up late. I'm going to be on time. Because I always knew I ain't always be in high school. I'm going to leave high late. I'm going to be on time. Because I always knew I ain't always been in high school. I'm going to leave high school.

Yes, sir. And I never wanted the guys to see if I ever get in sharp position, that's how I'm going to be. Lazy. Right. Blow off meetings. Not work hard. Be it high school, college, or the professionals. Right.

I always had that. I knew people were watching me, Ocho. I knew that. They knew I always had that. I knew people were watching me, Ocho. I knew that. They knew I had certain privileges. My college coach, his son, told me, my dad treated you more like a son than he treated me.

Damn. But I didn't abuse those privileges. I went to to practice i worked my ass off because i had a bigger picture but i also wanted the guys to respect when coach davis told him something i want man sharp ain't do it now if it wasn't right i would go to coach davis and like you know so forth and so on now guys messing up i mean but i would i throw my weight around right oh one night a guy oh we had we all we had during the season we had we had bad shit we had curfew uh-huh so coach come by check

the rooms okay i got missing he called it oh joe it's already 11 o'clock i'm i'm hey i go to bed i'm going to bed because i'm up at seven i'm showering eat breakfast because my first class is at eight i went eight to nine, 9-10, 10-11 11-12, I was done for the day eat, go take a nap get ready to go to practice coach come back there guy gets he check rooms, guy ain't in the room

he done bam on everybody, so I'm on auto when I'm asleep, I'm one of them I'm just saying, i'm one of them yeah yeah i'm i'm just saying i'm one of them yeah i i ain't nice i ain't moody oh oh my grandma said boy you got your ass on your shoulder this morning huh yeah yeah yeah my grandpa used to tell my aunts never had to have you know they were moody like that too my grandfather told my aunts and them how to have, you know, they were moody like that too.

My grandfather told my aunts and them one day, say, if there's something on your mind you want on your ass, because I can put it there. Right. Oh, yeah. So, Ocho, he family dog. We all out. So, Ocho already got hell in me.

I'm sorry, but you know I ain't got no patience, Ocho. I already got hell in me. Where is he at? So, I'm looking around. I'm looking at the creature tributaries like Stardust Me, Bavel. I see the starters, Squirrel, Mike. I see everybody that, you know,

where is he? He talking about Danzy. Danzy ain't make bad check. And if y'all don't tell me where he is, y'all gonna be running. Oh, Joy, let him clock. Oh, y'all gonna't tell me where he is, y'all going to be running. Uh-oh. Ochoa and Lemaclaw. Oh, y'all were going to run that night like this? Yes!

Oh, that's what he thought. I don't know who told him, but they told him wrong. I said, because I thought I heard him, but maybe I didn't. So I didn't want to overreact, Ochoa. I didn't want to jump because I already know how I am. I can easily go from zero to 1,000. But I didn't want to overreact oh i didn't want to jump because i'm already because i already know how i am i could easily go from zero to a thousand but i ain't want to do that so i just i'm like who coach danzy if y'all don't tell me where yet y'all gonna run i said coach i got class eight o'clock then i said dance it don't even start I ain't running nothing

I'm going back to my room I turn I walk them jokers say man shop ain't running I ain't running either everybody came in behind me right oh I'm not finna do bro he don't even start he don't even he barely

play right right right I'm not finna run for that. Oh, no. Hell not. Y'all got me so smooth. Nah, Leo. Y'all talking about Leo. That was my senior. Leo was my freshman year. Leo and I came in together.

But I don't believe in that. Like I said, Ocho, I don't believe in abuser of power. Right. Because power will tell you a lot about a person. Oh, yeah. If you want to know something about a person, give them power. Or money.

One or the other. But see, see, all money does, it makes you more what you already are. Already are. Yeah. See, if you a jerk and you give somebody money, now they become an asshole. Yeah. You see what I'm saying, Ocho? Yes, sir.

If you got a problem, if you got an asshole. Yeah. You see what I'm saying, don't you? Yes, sir. If you got a problem, if you got an eating problem, just like people that have a problem controlling their weight in college, well, ain't nobody got no damn money. Imagine if I give you money and you can go eat what you want to eat whenever you want to eat. Yeah. So money exacerbates already what you are.

Yeah. See, I'm the same person. When I had no money, I would give. I got money, I still the same person When I had no money, I would give I got money I still give Same But power Man Think about what it would do to a person

And what a person would do to hold on to it Yeah That's a scary thing That's a scary Matter of fact, you know what else is scary what is it when you love money so much when individuals love so money so

much you know they'll do anything to get it yeah for sure they'll do anything because they look at the end justify the means man listen you heard Nicole Machiavelli the dark prince says look if and he paraphrasing here he says look if i want to if i'm the prince and my and my king and my father is the king and the queen yeah it's okay to do something bad because the end they're gonna die

anyway yeah all i did was speed up the process that's what power that's what money will force you i, think about how many times you don't see all those stories that come on. The wife killed her husband for money, or the husband killed her wife, or a business partner done something.

That's what money will do. That's what power will do. Every time. I'll be broke. Every time. I'll be broke every time i'll be broke i i i i i i don't i love what money allows me to do right because i don't really do a whole lot for myself i just love knowing that my my family sleeps good at night yes sir i i told my sister my brother my, my mom, my kids. They don't. I mean, I was like, I'm the one that's up. Right. Y'all should sleep good.

Yeah. Y'all should have ambient in y'all system. What the hell are you guys worried about? Right. It's me that's staying up late at night worried about, hey, is everything what it's supposed to be? How is this going? Okay. What's going on with Shea Shea Media?

Okay. What's going on with Club Shea Shea? What's going on with Nightcap? What's going on with Shea Shea Media? Okay, what's going on with Club Shea Shea? What's going on with Nightcap? What's going on with other pods that I got going on? Is everybody... You try to appease everybody. You try to make things right. You don't try to give anybody any more than the other. I say, that's my job. My job is to worry.

That's not y'all job. But, nah, Ocho, it's... I've always been in situations, like I said, I've been a damn good purse player, but I've been a lot better person longer than I've been a good player. Yeah.

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Quincy Wilson will be making history at the 2024 Paris Olympics. The 16-year-old will participate as part of the 400 the 4x4 meter relay becoming the youngest American male to participate in an Olympic track and field event Wilson will lead off the US relay Friday Wilson trip to Paris started off after he secured a time of 45 19

at the floor hold on oh he got it okay he ran 45 19 at the Florida relays or not automatic bid to the trials. While he was unable to qualify during the individual race, he was still added to the pool because he broke the under-18 world record. And before he got there, he ran another race. He ran 44.20, so he's low 44. And so he deserved to get an opportunity.

It would be so cool for him. Like I said. Michael Norman's not running nowhere near that team. No, ain't no way. No, hell no. Wait a minute. First of all, go ahead. Did you just say how old is Quincy Wilson?

16. He'll sign for in high school. Oh, you may you plan. Oh, he? 16. He was a sophomore in high school. Oh, man, you playing. Uh-oh, he's 16. Quincy Wilson slugged up. Just won the 400. Fourth place come around the curve. He's 16.

No, that's Quincy Hall. Oh, boy. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, okay, okay. Man, don't scare me like that, man. Man, what? Quincy Hall. Okay, yeah, yeah. I got my Hall and Wilson mixed up. that, man. Man, what? Quincy Hall, okay, yeah, yeah.

I got my Hall and Wilson mixed up. I was going to say, what? Yeah, Quincy Wilson. No, Rob Benjamin's going to run anchor. Okay. Quincy Hall should probably, Quincy Hall probably should run second leg. Okay, okay.

And I would use Christopher Bailey as the third leg. Right. And even if I don't let the young bull, if I don't let Quincy Wilson, if I don't let him run, that's going to be between Vernon Norwood and Deadman. Those are going to be the guys that I lead. Oh, Quincy Wilson's going to lead off. This is to advance to the finals. In the finals, I would use Deadman or I would use Vernon Norwood. Okay. Both of those guys are in the finals. Okay. In the finals, I would use Deadman

or I would use Vernon Norwood. Okay. Both of those guys are in the pool. Both of those guys on the mixed relay, they both ran mid 44. Vernon Norwood is normally, he normally does a great job. He's been on a gold medal winning team before.

Right, right, right. So is Deadman. But I would definitely use, I definitely would use one of those guys. Bailey, he ran good in the finals. But Rod's going to run anchor. Quincy Hall's probably run second leg. But if

the young fella can go sub, say he goes sub, let's just say he goes sub, let's say he runs 44-4 right i wouldn't be afraid afraid to put him in the finals that lead it lead it off you know you know i think about i don't i don't like the fact obviously i know brother norman didn't run well but then i'm thinking about where his confidence is right now especially when it comes to track i think about your confidence as a receiver when you drop a ball. And you want those next four or five plays at some point,

you want your coach to still have the trust in you, you still want your quarterback to have the trust in you to throw you that ball again to get your confidence back. Do you think for the semis or for qualifying, you think they put Norman on just to get his confidence back? Just so he's feeling a little better about himself? I can't give you no confidence. For the 400, you don't think so?

I can't give you no confidence, though, Joe. Because don't think so? I can't give you no confidence, Ojo. Because all I know is in big meets, you blow a gasket. Every time. Ojo, you wrote it down yesterday. We are what we repeatedly do. Okay. We saw this in Tokyo. We saw this at the World Championship.

We saw this at this Olympics. Right. At least at this Olympics, he made the finals. The last one, I don't even think he made the finals. And if he did, he bombed again. Yeah.

But like I said, I'm thinking about it from as a competitor, you know, to always get there and to have a showing like you did yesterday. And do the coaches think about that and wanting to help him get his confidence back because you know

when you got your confidence you could damn you could damn they do anything I understand in the past every time he was supposed to show up in the end when show up when it counts and when it matters most he hasn't been able to do so so his confidence has to be shot. It has to be shot at this point, especially after yesterday's show. But how do I give you culture? That's in you. I can believe in you, but do you believe in yourself? I mean, at this point, he might be down in the dumps.

I'm just... And this is coming from someone that is a competitor, just not in track. I just know that feeling of dropping something big and dropping something important. And this is 10 times more than football. Like, you represent your country. You got billions watching you. You got billions with their eyes on you. So I know that feeling is 10 times worse.

Ocho, I've been there. I dropped a touchdown pass that would have given us home field throughout the event, the home field throughout the playoff in 91. Yeah. In the been there. I dropped the touchdown pass that would have given us home field throughout the event, the home field throughout the playoffs in 91. Yeah. In the south stands. Yeah. I called my brother crying. Yeah. He asked me, he said, what you crying for? He said, you him. That's what he need. That's what

that's what brother Norman need right there. I tell you what I said, if I ever get back in that situation again, I said, Lord, all I ask, and I didn't know, six years, it took six years for me to get back in that situation again. AFC Championship game, third and eight, in three,

all three rivers. You never played in three rivers. It's like on levers, it's bouncing. It's going crazy. 24-21. If we don't get this first down, we lose it because we had lost all momentum. Give me the ball. Give me the ball.

I know what John's... I don't know if they didn't know, but I know what John was going with the football. Because I had been with him the longest. I had made the most plays for him. He was the one that always, hey, I'm looking. Hey, T,

I'm looking. All right. But see, everybody, my brother was always, no matter what, I could hear it. My brother, when I was in high school, Ocho, my brother would leave the University of South Carolina and come. I was my brother when i was at when i was in high school ocho my brother would lead the university of south

carolina and come i was i was mainly a field guy a long jump triple jump discus my coach you got him he was coaching everybody else because i only wanted to hear what he had to say right so he was like okay this is what we're gonna do you still got the long jump you still gotta throw the disc this jump right the first jump you need to end the competition right away i know if i hit it on the first jump i'm gonna be at least two and a half feet in front of everybody right i ended on the first jump because i gotta save my legs because i still got a long I'm going to be at least two and a half feet in front of everybody. Right. I ended on the first jump because I got to save my legs because I still got a long jump. I still got to throw the disc and I got to run both relays.

So I only got so much in my legs, Ochoa. I just need, hey, hey, you over rotate. Take your time. take your time take your time i mean within the region me ocho i had scratched twice now i'm the reigning disc i'm the reigning uh a region champ in the disc right i had just won the high point trophy for most points accumulated in the track meet in class eight. Because I went to triple jump, I think I got like, what? Third or fourth in the long jump, I think I got like fifth in the disc. So I'm down to my last

roll, and I just went over there and I just I just remember getting to myself, and all I could hear in my head, all I could hear is, hey hey my brother talking to me now go through what hey we've been here before you're made for this last throw won it so but I'm a big moment performer

right people like what they call you Shea they call you Shea in Baltimore they call me big play Shea because if you look at the year we went to the Super Bowl every big play that we made in the playoffs I made it. But his confidence, Ocho, but you got

to, at the end of the day, I can tell you, Ocho, you that guy. You that guy. You that Ocho. You that Ocho. You that dog. Do you believe Ocho is that dog? It don't matter what I say. I was a dog, man. I wasn't no pit bull. I was a chihuahua, but I was a dog. So, no.

But I know it's shot, though. You know what I mean. I know it is. Mm-hmm. I just, Ocho, normally as the rounds progress, I could tell. I saw him opened up with that 44-10. I said, okay. Yeah.

And then he followed that up with 44-26. I'm like, nah, you're heading in the wrong direction. Right. Normally, you gradually, okay, you go from, say, 44-8 to 44-4, and now you're ready. Bro, you don't go 44 10 and start going that way look at the guys

look at what Quincy Hall look at his time look at what he opened with look at the semifinals look at the finals look at Matthew Hudson Smith look at what he opened with look at the semifinals look at what he finished with look at Karani James look at that'sifinals look at what he finished with right look at karani james look at that's

all i'm saying damn but he ain't getting rid of r ramsay a u.s rugby braun mellis spoke on health care abroad ocho let's take a listen to what she had to say all right all right okay y'all so not only in the village do we have free food, but we have free dental, free healthcare. I literally just got a patch mirror for free. And I have a dentist's appointment. And I exam next week. Like, what?

But it's the Olympics now. This is the Olympics. They have the best of everything at your disposal rightfully so you think they got more money there or in the US oh shit in the US

that's what she's bringing attention to okay okay okay okay it ain't nothing gonna change she can talk all she want it's one thing it's one thing you know about the US

well we stubborn and don't care nothing about no protests and don't care nothing about what you stand for. We're going to do things our way. Because those that are in a position of power, if they wanted it free, it would be free.

They pick and choose what they want to do now. The U.S. country, we sent the most athletes, we won the most medals and benefits over $70 billion in revenue from sports alone. It's sad that our athletes have to do a routine checkup overseas because it's unaffordable here. It is. I mean, health care, it's a.

That ain't the only thing that's unaffordable. I. You talk about a guy. You talk about a guy that that that employs people. So I know what health care costs. Oh, yeah. And you talk about a guy that before my daughters got jobs, that they were on.

You know what teenage, you know what girls cost? Because what can girls give you? Kids. Yeah. Yeah. You ain't got to tell me I got 37 of them kids. I know.

Man, I was like, man, please. I said, I need to open to get me an insurance company. They say, nah, we don't cover that. They don't cover ish. Nah, we don't cover that. We'll cover the right eye, but we won't cover the left one. I need both of these to see. It's crazy. It's see. It's crazy.

It's amazing. It's amazing. Oh, check this out. Jerry Jones spoke about contracts talked with C.D. Lamb and says, I don't have any urgency to get it done.

C.D. caught wind of this and had a very simple response. LOL. That on the screen. Yeah, he said LOL. LOL. Jerry can't help himself can he i listen i say it over and over and over when it was time for days to get paid same thing when it's time for um zeke to get paid the same thing are you really serious about winning

you need your best player outside of that in camp, building that chemistry and that rapport to make sure when the season does start, you hit the ground running. But no, all the talk he's been doing, all I remember is Jerry saying, you know what? This year, this offseason, I'm all in. I haven't seen one sign of being all in and taking your team serious on wanting to reach the end goal of ending that 25-year

Lombardi curse. I mean, it is what it is. And I'm sure at this point... 20? 25? 30? 30? Yeah. Listen, I wouldn't be surprised. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if maybe in a few days,

CeeDee Lamb come out and say you want to be traded. Mm-hmm. I wouldn't be surprised. Especially when the owner, you don't say stuff like that. You don't do that. It's bad enough you got the man waiting. It's clear as day. The market is the market.

The numbers are the numbers based on what he's done. If you don't want to pay him, let him go. All I know is that they said, I tell you, I know a guy didn't have to ever do that. Tony Romo ain't never had a whole contract,

did he? Nah. How many times Jason Whitten played without a contract? Boy, don't get me started, bro. Don't get me started. I don't know how Jerry think the price is going to come down. See, you can see Dak has always Heisman-posed Jerry Jones.

He's never cuddled up to it like Tony Romo did. Right. Or like Jason Whitten did or like some of those other guys. So even though he drafted him, Jared looked like all of his players that Jared drafts, he looks at them like his kids, and for the most part, they embrace it. Dak is really Dak.

Dak plays his role very, very well. No extra shit. He ain't give you no extra shit. Nope, nope. He ain't one of those guys sir um but you have to do you ain't gotta pay that somebody else gonna pay him next year though oh yeah most definitely but what you gonna do with micah and that's what i want to know what you're gonna do with micah a guy that he's been an all pro uh he's been defensive rookie of the year he's always on the ballot been defensive rookie of the year.

He's always on the ballot for defensive player of the year. I just want to know. I hope you think you go. I really hope that you think you go give him like $25 million. It ain't happening, bro. It ain't happening. Oh, he's going to be the highest paid defensive player. Oh, yeah.

I promise you that. Most definitely. And he's going to get a hundred plus plus mil whatever Miles Garrett or Joey Bosa I don't know who that highest paid is right now but it's about to be Micah Parsons in the next 14 months yeah probably TJ Watt I think

I don't know it might be Miles Garrett okay boy it's up there. Somebody said in the chat, Michael Parsons will be an eagle. He said he like the Steelers. He said he ain't big on them. Can you imagine Michael Parsons and TJ White on opposite sides?

Nick Bosa. How much Nick got? What Nick got? Nick Bosa is the highest paid. He is? Average $ 34 million a year Nick Bosa is San Fran or San Diego

yeah Joy is the Chargers the Chargers okay okay okay damn mmhmm hey CD saw what Justin Jefferson got yeah Mm-hmm Hey See these See these saw what Justin Jefferson got

Yeah He saw what Tyreek got Tyreek Everybody You know what Chase ain't practicing AJ Brown See Cincinnati

Cincinnati say Hey bro We try to pay We'll pay you next year Say nah Jamar He still ain't practiced yet, huh? Nope.

And them boys ain't playing, bro. Nope. Listen, being able to separate the business side and the love for football is putting the owners in a tough spot. Because them boys say they ain't playing until they get paid. But they standing on business about that, too. Yeah. Well, hey, hey,

you know what? If I'm the, if I'm the Players Association, when they come down to that, talking about 18 games, I say, obviously, we're going to, you know, we're going to want our cut,

but we're going to get away, we're going to get away with these tags. No more franchise tags. Mmm. That's a good one. That's a good one. No more franchise tags,

Loco. What about, in the 18 game, you think you could also leverage in guaranteed contracts or no yeah you can get some

I mean normally the first three years are guaranteed yeah yeah yeah for the most part and so that's why that's what I'm looking for

I'm trying to look I'm trying to get 75-80% of that contract guaranteed so if I got a 200 million dollar contract hey 10 you know they try to back load that bitch guaranteed. So if I got a $200 million contract, hey,

$10, $20 million. You know they try to backload that bitch. I'll give it that one. They ain't got nothing to do with it. You can backload it. But you're going to front load my bank account. You backload that for cap purposes. But you're going to front load my bank account.

Most definitely. That first three years is all that matter. Oh, that's it. Because I already know. But the problem that I have, Ocho, the problem that I have is that when you outperform the contract, you sign the contract. When you underperform the contract,

you didn't. That's my only problem. I was never one to hold out. But if I got a borrow, if I sign the contract, the contract say five years, why are you releasing me? Because you ain't going to reward

me when I overperform. And then you're going to talk about we want to restructure. but hold on, let me make sure I hear you correct. You want me to restructure the contract, Ojo? And because I wasn't making the plays

that I made when I got the contract, you want me to restructure it and then make the plays that I made when I got the contract. So you're going to give me less money and want me to do more. Nope. Because just think about if you're at your job, Ocho, you signed to whatever deal, you're at your job. And you're like, man, you know what?

I think I'm going to go work for Apple. I want to go work for Microsoft. I'm going to go for this. And Apple say, nah, you know what? We're going'm going to go work for Apple. I want to go work for Microsoft. I'm going to go for this. Right. And Apple say, nah, you know what? We're going to put the tag on you. You got to stay here and for one year or two years,

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that plays basketball better than Kevin Durant? Remember, not a greatness list just better he's no lower than 10 for me i promise y'all when y'all saw magic when y'all saw bird right when y'all saw jordan y'all saw kobe y'all said saw donkey y'all said the exact same thing right kd's phenomenal i mean they're i mean what can he do score three different levels file him go make 90% of his free throws

play off the ball he doesn't need the ball he's highly efficient what's not to like about him he's he's special okay what's not to like about him? He's special. Okay? I mean, if you don't have, if that's your list and you don't have him

no lower than 10, I'm not going to fight you. He was great today. But he had to be. Embiid was great today. Steph Curry was magnificent today. LeBron was LeBron. Yeah, Steph Curry was out there acting like he a 2K player.

Green. It was in the green every time that first quarter. That's why Steph is Steph. Who's surprised by Steph doing that? We've seen him. At some point. Y'all made 20, 30 threes in a row. Yeah, at some point,

he was going to have a game like this. At some point, he was going to be the Steph we're used to seeing in the regular season and just get hot. Hell, he pulled up from the damn logo too and almost hit that.

Yeah. Golf Brother once said, the wind saved Kerr from being the story. Tatum 6'10", long, one of the top three shooters, perfect weapon, and Euroball nightcap always winning, bro.

For whatever reason, Tatum just haven't seemed like himself. He just has it. Yeah. Maybe it's, I mean, he needs the ball.

He's not an off the ball player. None of, if you think about it, Ocho, think about what you're asking. You're asking all these guys that's used to having the ball as much as they like.

Right. To say, you know what? We want you to suppress a lot of who and what you are. Oh, yeah. Difficult. Difficult.

I mean, when you really look at it, I mean, Steph runs around off a thousand picks. He's in tremendous shape. KD does that. But Embiid, he's the ball. Yeah. Book, once they lost CP3, they put the ball in Bookhand. He was the point. Right.

Most of these guys need the ball. You need guys that can play without the ball. That's why you got a Derek White. Because guess what? Derek White has never been the guy. He's always played without the ball. Right. True Holiday, he's always played without the ball true holiday he's always been without the ball

even Halliburton man please I'm happy to be over here I'm about to get a gold medal yeah sure but he's like who's he going to play in front of LeBron, Steph? KD?

Book? And B? No. I mean, who is he going to play? I mean, he was always going to be the 12th guy. No matter how you slice it, I don't think, we just didn't think Jason Tatum was going to be the 11th guy. Right.

I think you and I can agree on that. I think the people in the chat can be on that. We always knew Halliburton was going to be the 12th guy. I think you and I can agree on that. I think the people in the chat can be on that. We always knew Halliburton was going to be the 12th guy. We just didn't anticipate Jason Tatum being the 11th guy. We thought, okay, 11th guy, oh, that's going to be Derek White. And then it goes on accordingly. But we had an idea

of the three guys. The guy that took the iconic photo, like Bird, Magic, and Jordan, was who? LeBron, KD, and Steph. Yeah. Crazy. Damn. Lanny Ray said, hey, guys, haven't heard y'all talk about

the U.S. women's indoor volleyball team. They're just giving them the flowers. They beat Brazil. They did. They beat Brazil today. I watched the game. And we're going to the gold medal match against Italy. Go team USA. Yes.

I watched it. I think is Karch Karas still their coach? I don't know. He might coach the men's now. I used to follow them a lot when they had Logan Tom. They had Destiny Hooker back in 12, 2008, 2012. I used to follow

the women's game a lot. I catch occasionally with the men. Ocho, you talking about some verts? Oh, yeah. I used to follow the women's game a lot. I catch occasionally with the men. Ocho, you talking about some verts? Oh, yeah. I put a boy to jump, man. What? Boys can jump. Boy, they ain't. The net nine foot tall and they have this over the net. Yeah, they can jump.

Oh, yeah. But yeah, the women, congratulations to the women. I used to work out Dane Blanton. He's a beach volleyball coach. He's covering the beach Dane Blanton. He's a beach volleyball coach. He's covering the beach volleyball aspect of it. He was a great beach volleyball player. I'm trying to think. He won the beach title back in 96 in Atlanta.

I forget who his partner was. Johnson? Johnson? I forget who his partner was, but I see him all the time at the gym. I think the last time we won

beach goalie man was probably Phil Dahlhauser. That might have been... You be knowing these names, boy. What year was that? I had to think off the top of my head. Oh, Joe 20.

Was it Beijing? Was it Beijing or London? Ash had to take a call, but, uh, yeah, the women, I mean,

I, I love, I mean, I love, I'm, you know, Hey, you know, back in the day when, you know, when your boy was here, when he was well, the women, I mean, I love, I mean, I love, you know, hey, you know, back in the day when, you know,

when your boy was here, when he was well, you know, you had no volleyball player. You don't see it, Ocho, you don't. She about 5'10". Woo! 5'10". 5'10". She probably about 160.

Woo! Stacked like dirty laundry in a dorm room. Well, you let that get away, huh? Man, you know me, Ocho. Sometimes your eyes be bigger than your stomach. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it happened to the best of us. It did.

It happened to the best of us. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? That's why I stay in shape. Because, you know, they like to be carried they like to be carried and you know they see you boy with 132

135 in each hand that's 260 all the ones that go get on the scale in the morning they're like oh he have them dumbbells he can carry me and you're absolutely correct you're thinking you're a mason's day balloon I have you up in there like the Thanksgiving day parade you're thinking of your Macy's Day balloon, I have you up in there.

Like the Thanksgiving Day parade? Yeah, man. Man, please. Yeah, man, you got to stay strong, Ocho. Yeah, I know. I'm with you. I mean, that's what Real trying to tell you, Ocho. You need to get back in the gym. Listen, no, no, I'm good now.

Listen, real touch. How many corners in the room? How many corners in the room? Boom. And she hit every last one of them. She touched every corner in the room. Ain't got time to play. Your ass be on the goddamn ceiling fan playing with me.

That's what I'm saying. See? your ass be on the goddamn ceiling playing with me see that's why she when she was out there drunk that night why you think I was so mad don't play with me like that man don't play with me don't hit me talk about what you ready and got me

you know what Ocho you supposed to have been on them diamonds and when she walked in the door you butt naked and she supposed to say what y'all two doing up you know what I'm, Ocho? You supposed to have been on them diamonds, and when she walked in the door, you butt naked, and she supposed to say, what y'all two doing up? You know what I'm saying, Ocho? That's how you supposed to have been right in the door. That's how you supposed to have been right in the door, Ocho. I know one thing.

She out of town right now. She get back tomorrow. I ain't trying. Man, listen. I'm a peep. Now, you got two more strikes. That's one. That liquor incident, man, listen. I'm a peep. Now, you got one more, you got two more strikes. That's one. That liquor incident,

that was one. Now, you come home playing around tomorrow, that's going to be two. Mm-hmm. Now, if you three, your ass is going to be on the couch.

Mm-hmm. Hey, how long she been out of town, though, Cho? She, with the kids, they in Tampa. But ain't even out of town. She down the street. For every day you out of town, that's the day With the kids, they in Tampa. But they ain't even out of town. She's down the street.

For every day you out of town, that's the day you got to get it in. So if you're out of town for two weeks straight, you got to get it in two weeks straight. Now we talking. Now we talking. Now we talking. Now you know I'm fertile now. I can't just be moving like that

because you know she thinks she's... That ain't got nothing to do with me. Yeah, I know it ain't got nothing to do with you, but she thinks she's slick. You know, she's trying to get one up out of me. And I'm just, I'm done. I'm done. Hey, I'll be pretending. Hey, they come in late, don't you?

I'll pretend like I'm asleep. Hey, you know, they, don't you know, soon as they snuggle in? Yeah. I don't scoop the ball. They got nothing to do with me. Hey, you ain't tired? No, I've been resting.

I've been sleeping. I'm good. Yeah, when you left the house at 10 o'clock, I slept till 12, knowing you was going to come in at 1. Mm-hmm, I'm good. Hey. Hell no.

Mm-mm. No, babe. Damn. We got a question. And everybody laughing. Where they laughing at? In the chat. Why y'all laughing?

What'd I do? They say you need to go get snipped, don't you? Who? Shoot, I tried. She told me no. She told me if I did that, she was going to leave me. Yeah, I say, I can't. What you calling them, Ocho? I can't. They must be trying to mess up something. Man, please. Oh, yeah. I ain't playing with that. I ain't playing with that.

God, God. You're new to your dog. You spay your dog. Me? Nah, I ain't got nothing to do with that yeah I'm telling him I'm gonna get me something nigga I'm gonna get me something I'm gonna call it knock fire cause I'm gonna knock fire from him you know what I'm saying I'm gonna knock fire

I'm gonna have a little fire emoji I'm gonna have a little fire emoji on a white peel that's that knock fire man why they call it knock fire? Because, boy, you knock fire for them. Knock fire for them. Yeah, man. No, y'all ain't finna get us.

But you didn't go ahead and do that. No. No, no, no, no, no. I don't play like that. I don't play like that. Okay. I don't mess with God's blessings, man. Nah, Ocho.

Ocho. Hold on. They say with a... Fire, man. Nah, Ocho, Ocho, uh, uh, hold on. They say with a... 5'5". We don't discriminate, but we just saying. I mean, Ocho back when he, before he got real, he can't be scooping up no 200 pounder. Who can't? No 220, 230.

But I only dated BBWs before real. What you talking about? You ain't doing nothing. Stop playing with me, man. Put your own boy. Put your own. Yeah, I don't want to get in trouble. I don't want to get myself in trouble.

Talk about the past. I don't want to get in trouble. But, man. I don't play. Right now, Ocho, right now I'm 250. I take anything 15 to 20 pounds under me. Man, they in your DM. Should we know?

Hey, anything 15 to 25 under me, you good to go. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Yeah, it is. I know. Listen. 5'2". 100.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 5'2". Boy, that's a little pepper. Hey, I'm a spiller. You know what I'm saying? That's a little bell pepper now. 5'2". Hey, hey, when you're for the country,

you know you throw a sack of feed over your shoulder? Right. Like the K, man. Yeah, yeah, man. Okay, okay. Well, you said 5'2", 230, boy. That's a bell pepper, boy. 5'105 to 6'2", 6'3".

240. Okay. 240? Yeah. Oh, Charlie got old, man. You got to expand the boy. I know. Man, you know, hey, they're about 20 to 30.

Well, I was like, hey, you got to be that old, man. Yeah, you're right. Listen, you're not old to 30. Well, I was like, hey, you got to be that old, man. Yeah, you're right. Listen, you're not old. Don't do that. Old is when you can't do for yourself, you know? When you were born and they had to wipe you and they had to do, that's when you're old. When you hit that stage again for the second time.

Nah, I just did. I ain't no long with the cover. You know what I'm saying? I pitch a tent. You know what I'm saying? I pitch a tip. You know what I'm saying? I got a teepee going on in the morning. You good. It is.

It is. And the question I'm asking, why is it like that? You know what I'm saying? You're supposed to kick the pole out. You know what I'm saying? You're supposed to kick the pole out. You know what I'm saying? Man, hey, thank you guys for joining me for another episode of Nightcap. We want to give a special thanks to Gabby Thomas. Gabby, we really, really appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule.

I know our subscribers, our audience, viewing and listening audience, greatly, greatly appreciate. Oh, man, you're unbelievable. Your personality, your charm, and congratulations on winning the gold medal and the 200 meters. Please make sure you hit that like button. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. And, guys, please make sure you go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from.

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game they were down by as many as 17 trailed by 13 in the fourth quarter, but great performances by Steph Curry, LeBron James, Joel Embiid, and Kevin Durant lead the Americans back. They win 95-91 in a thriller, and they will face France in the gold medal round. Sydney McLaughlin

Laveroni wins the 400-meter hurdles in world record time, 50.37. It's the sixth time she's broken the world record. So now she's a two time, uh, uh, Olympic champion, 400 meters hurdles.

She's a three time world champ and she owns the world record. Um, only Glenn Davis won consecutive goals and the hurdles in 56 and 60. Edwin Moses won in 76 and 84, but because they boycotted the Olympics in 1980 and 60. Edwin Moses won in 76 and 84, but because they boycotted the Olympics in 1980. Anna Cockrell, congratulations to you, the USC. She went to USC. She's no longer there.

She's a professional now. She won the silver medal in her PR at the time of 51-87. Grant Holloway, finally. He's an Olympic champ at 110-meter hurdles-87. Grant Holloway, finally, he's an Olympic champ at 110-meter hurdles. 12.99. He's a three-time world champ. He finally wins that coveted

gold medal that has long eluded him, but he won today. Daniel Roberts, American, took the silver medal. Les Lesile Tobogo

wins the gold medal and the 200 meters with a time of 1946 Katie Baderick wins the silver Noah Lowes wins the bronze um it was reported and confirmed NBC and I think the BBC um confirmed that he was uh

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