Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Jets give Rodgers ultimatum, Burrow cap hit, Relle’s new handbag

Episode Date: February 13, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the New York Jets telling Aaron Rodgers he couldn’t appear on The Pat McAfee Show anymore if he wanted to be with the Jets next season. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Cincinnati Bengals QB Joe Burrow is projected to have a $46.3 million cap hit in 2025, Unc wants to know if Ocho bought Relle the new Hermes handbag she was showing off and much more!03:53 - Elliot doesn’t want Rodgers in Pittsburgh13:54 - Joe Burrow22:00 - Bengals could be losing Pratt26:17 - Sweat comments on SB MVP29:10 - GM speaks on Richardson36:10 - Relle posted Hermes bag40:30 - Q and Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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could be a potential landing spot for veteran quarterback Aaron Rodgers, at least one player isn't interested in the service. Steelers safety Deshaun Elliott commented on an Instagram post and made it clear that he doesn't want Rogers in Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh's new quarterback in 2025, writing, leave his ass at the retirement home. I mean, listen, when you pull the stuff you pulled during the offseason, when you pull the stuff you pulled while you were there,

you know, players see that. They don't want no part of that. Did you see what was being reported the stipulations that they gave him in order to come back to Green Bay you see those stipulations no more Pat McAfee many camps

be here locked in wow locked in wow wow the Jets told Aaron Rodgers he couldn't appear on the Pat McAfee show anymore if he wanted to be the net if he wanted to be with the Jets

next season per Diana Rossini she plugged in she like Jane Slater at the Cowboys. She liked Mary Kay Cabot with the Browns. When they speak, I really listen. I perk up to what they say. I was told that when Rodgers had his conversation, when Jess had the conversation with Aaron Rodgers

about what the future would look like, if you're going to be a part of this team, you're going to attend all of training camp. You're not going to do the Pat McAfee interviews anymore. They had a conversation with him. If you're going to stay here, here's how we want it to be. So this is me. It's Aaron Glenn getting control back.

I love it. I like it too. I like it too. I like it too. Now listen, if the Pat McAfee show was conducive to the Jets and helping in any way with winning, if it wasn't in the scene in the negative light matter of fact if you were performing the way you should be performing if you were the Aaron Rodgers of old you can go you can go talk to goddamn Glenn Beck for all I care you can talk

to CNN if you were playing on Sundays and being productive and being the Aaron Rodgers of old I wouldn't care who you talk to you could be at the Playboy Mansion on your off day, but it just wasn't right. You're losing on the field. You're playing bad on the field, and you're doing a show that's causing controversy and conflict, creating chaos, and then your performance isn't where it should be.

Yeah, it's just tough, Ocho. It's tough when you play that position, and guys see you doing... Because normally the quarterback's locked in. Oh yeah, always. Normally. Especially those level quarterbacks. And Aaron Rodgers was that level of quarterback. He was a

Peyton Manning. He was a Tom Brady. He was that... He was that level of quarterback. And normally those quarterbacks is a singular focus. And they're there at minicamp. No distractions.

None. None. And then you can't create a distraction and then get mad when people talk about said distraction. Distraction, yeah. And you egg it on. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Wait a minute. You wrecked the car and then you made the people stop and looking at you as the car turned over side the road. You did it. That's a good one. I like that. I like that. That's what I didn't understand about him. He talk about we got to block out the noise.

But it's him beating on the bucket in the hallway. Right. He creating the noise, but it's him beating on the bucket in the hallway. He creating the noise that we hear. What didn't he see about that? But see, four-time MVP, you know, you get seduced

by your own success, and so you was like, hey, damn what's in the best interest of the team, what's in the best interest of me? Most top-tier quarterbacks don't think like that. They don't. All I can

say is the quarterbacks of his era. You think Brady thought like that? Oh, no. You thought Manning thought like that? Absolutely not. Breeze, you look at Mahomes now. Every week, Ocho, I can see, you know, hey, as a favor to you, payback. I like you. I like what you stand for, bro.

I'm going to come on your show once. But every week? Right. That's a tough one. That's a real tough one. That's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a real tough one. And I'm telling you, guys look at stuff like that.

Yeah. Oh, they watching. They're watching. Go look, listen to when, when, when Brady went to Tampa. What I did in New England,

ain't got anything to do with what I'm about to do in Tampa. Peyton Manning said what I did in Indy, but that's not how he thought. He's like, hey, what did he say at the end of the season? If my resume isn't good enough, he said it. Now, if it's a lie,

he said it. Y'all heard him. The thing that I love so much about sports is that you must update that resume on a weekly basis. He's standing on what I've already done should be enough to allow me to be going any situation I want to and do it how I want to. Jesse, nah, we cool.

Moving forward, it's's gonna be our way everyone way to do things my way or trail way and I think trail way and Greyhound merged didn't it so they were one bus up out of town just go all in so you know what my last year,

I'm about to be, what are you, about to be 41? If he's not already 41, I'm going to see what I got one last year. A lot, all of,

I'm going to block everything out. I ain't really, you know, I ain't going to be on none of the bull jive about the government doing this

and US foals and ivermectin and whatever the case may be. All I'm thinking about is all football. Because I promise you, you're closer to the end than the beginning.

Promise you that. Yeah. And for a guy to have that many MVPs and has only been to one Super Bowl, you can make a case that, hey,

with two, three Super Bowls on show, now we'd have been having a conversation, him, he'd have go, he'd have right there with Roger. I mean, with Brady.

Four MVPs? Yeah. Four. Yeah. As I be, look, I think that's the thing that I respect most

about like the great how bought in they are and I use it like in football I term you look at a Brady basketball you look at a LeBron you look at a Kobe

right that's it yeah that is it all the great grades were different. Not only did they were, they were locked in not only for themselves,

but they led by example for everybody else. And they set the standard. They set the standard. This is how you want to be great. If you want to be great, you don't have to be me, but you can do the things I do.

If you fall short, you still going to fall somewhere under the line of greatness. Discipl don't come down to discipline no that's in everything you do you don't even have to be sports you don't even have to be sports just in life in general you will get the results if you lock in that you have any small amount of discipline. That's all it takes. And you know, there's got to be something wrong too. They get up and do the same thing over and over and over and over

and over until it becomes a habit. Greatness is boring. Man, you got it. Greatness is boring. It's a monotonous trait because you're doing the same thing over and over hoping for the same result. What do you think Brady did in the offseason? You hear him tell the story It's a monotonous trait because you're doing the same thing over and over, hoping for the same result. Yeah. What do you think Brady did in the offseason?

Yeah. You hear him tell the story about when he played Kevin Sitton at Super Bowl? Yeah. He was so locked in, he knew what they were going to do before they knew what they were going to do? Yeah. How much film do you think, Peyton, offseason? You hear Ray Lewis say, well, if I want to beat Peyton, if I want to beat Tom,

I got to watch as much film as they watch. I got to be as locked in as they are. I think the thing is that when you hear people talk about those guys, one of the first things outside of how great they were is leadership. What are you talking about, Tom is leadership what are you talking about Tyler Briggs

what are you talking about leadership talk about Ray Lewis talk about might be the greatest team sport leader in the history right you hear Peyton

you hear certain guys that that word just automatically rolls off people's tongues right Rogers is 41 but if I was him and I was going to come back

I'm going all in I'm going to empty the, I'm going all in. I'm going to empty the tank. I'm going to empty the tank. Got one more year. I got nine months. And then after that, I got the rest of my life to do whatever I want. Hey, P-Bat.

You got me a job. Hey, P-Bat. You got me a job. Hey. Because I'm about to come. I'm about to come every Tuesday. I'm about to be on your show. You can do what you can do is you can do as many shows as you want to.

You go as many, many dark retreats as you want to. But if you haven't done it, if you haven't done it in this long, the chance is going to now out the blue. Yeah. Yeah. It ain't. Joe Burrow is projected to have a $46.3 million cap

in 2025, Joe. The Bengals are projected to have almost $46 million in cap space. But that is before signing the necessary players to start the season in addition to the incoming draft class. Burrow also referenced the Eagles who've been able to sign multiple players

to veteran deals despite also giving quarterback Jalen Hurts a huge contract. That puts him among the league's highest-paid players. The Cincinnati quarterback praised the way Philly treated the salary cap

to build a championship caliber team the Eagles are paying everybody that seems like the way whatever they're doing was this the best was this a shot

at the Bengals organization I wouldn't say it's a shot at the Bengals organization I say it's a it's a message to the organization on look how they did things, look how they're doing things. They're able to have a team like that, have everybody together,

have everybody happy, and still able to function and compete for a title. I think we need to take, like I say it all the time, we are a copycat league. We copy what they're doing. We need to copy what they're doing and keep our band together, one band, one sound,

so we can compete the same goddamn way. But you're going to have to let some people go. You see a luxurious need, he had to go. You see gay, he had to go.

You see Wiley, he ended up leaving. You know what I'm saying? Don't you? I mean, you can't, hey, you try to keep the core. Think about it. They traded

Tyreek. They're probably gonna lose Trey Smith. Yeah. You can't keep everybody. Right. Okay, the core. Can we keep Mahomes, obviously, is

non-negotiable. We kept Trav. Right. We kept Trav. We kept Chris Jones. We drafted well. We got McDuffie. Carloptus. Hit a couple in free agency. But the problem is that Jamar Chase is not giving you

a discount. We know that. You made him play it out, and the guy hit the triple crown. He got the triple crown. You're going to have to pay him $40 million. Yeah.

Well, you could have had him. We could have had him. You could have paid him $35,000, $36,000. But now he's going to want 40 plus. Yeah, you want to. Yeah, then we chose to play hardball. And T. Higgins. Yeah.

But if you notice, look what they did to Devontae. Before his contract came up, they redid it. And they got him done on purpose. See? They knew what they was doing. Now, they're probably not going to be able to sign Josh Sweat. He has some interesting comments. I don't know if you saw what he said.

I don't know what we're talking about. Hopefully, we do. But look, they're doing a great job. They got some guys. You look at DeJuan and you got Mitchell. They on rookie deals.aylen carter rookie deal nicole b dean rookie deal nolan smith jr rookie deal yeah jordan davis rookie deal see they got a good chance but they got a good chance of running back boy and offensive line got him

locked up saquon got him locked up jalen Hurts he's also locked up they looking good look real good look real good but that's what you have to do you have to have guys that hey they want to be there want to get locked in yeah I'm

a firm believer I'm a firm believer. I'm a firm believer that the Eagles are built. They got another two years, two or three years. Oh, yeah. They got another two or three years. Jalen Carter, hey, Jalen Carter's going to get a big contract. He's a preeminent D tackle in football. Yeah.

Nolan Smith, he might be undersized, but he was destroying those pulling guards. I mean, he can't win more than 230. But boy, boy, he was a headache. Mm-hmm. Because I, ooh, he was dropping the ham on folks. But look, Joe's like, bro bro almost 5,000 yards is fine 43 touchdowns is fine

bro I'm home with stats like this yeah we got a triple crown winner that's home that cannot happen again absolutely absolutely not and then I'm sure it't gonna happen on my watch.

So, if they can get it, if they can get it, you know, rework his contract, get Chase, but if I'm Chase, I can't do the first one.

Now, hey, Joe, the second one, hey, but I'm finna take a big-ass bite of this apple. Yeah. I'm gonna take a big bite of this apple Ocho and so I just got a feeling

Ocho somebody gonna throw so much money football players don't turn down 40 million baseball players don't turn down

40 million basketball players turn that down like hey I wanna be in a better situation I wanna be such and such yada yada yada

not football because the money is not guaranteed right I can't turn down for 49 what what

and then I don't get no lifetime health benefits right and you know a medical expenses eat up yours or a family member wife kids, kids, eat up a savings. Yes, it does.

Retirement. Oh, no, I got to get all that, Ocho. I got to get every last dime that they promised me. I'm sorry. Because T was a second-round pig, Ocho. Yeah. So he didn't get that first down, you know, that $ pick, Ocho. Yeah. So he ain't get that. He ain't get that first down, you know,

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Okay. Pratt signed a three-year extension with the Bengals in 23-3 and is set to make $5.6 million in 2025 after leading the team with 143 tackles this past season. He also added six pass defended, two interceptions, two forced fumbles, and two fumble recoveries. Rappaport noted that Pratt is closer to former Bengals defensive coordinator

Lou Amarillo and Arumo and Arumo who was fired after the 2024 season Ocho given how poorly he was a bright spot

if you could say such a thing Ocho considering how poorly your defense played especially the first three quarters of the season he and Trey Hendrickson yeah

Ocho ain't looking good for the home team I mean I'm gonna say I'm gonna say Defense played especially the first three quarters of the season. He and Trey Hendrickson. Yeah. Oh, Joe, ain't looking good for the home team, though. I mean, I wouldn't say it's not looking good. Obviously, Jermaine Pratt is upset. I'm not sure what he's upset about. Obviously, defense. 5.3 million. Okay.

Oh, he won the pay raise, huh? Yes. Yeah, I can tell you. I can tell you it ain't coming from there. I can tell you that. That's why he requested Yes. Yeah, I can tell you. I can tell you it ain't coming from there. I can tell you that. That's why you requested to be traded. I can tell you that. Listen, if it was about the money, Pratt, you know, I love you, baby. I love you.

I love you like a brother, you know. Business is business. And I understand. I totally understand where you're coming from. So, totally understand. So, you believe Brother Pratt's going to move on, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are y'all going to do about Trey Hendrickson?

Hey, I got a question for you now. You got Tee Higgins that's up. You know, we got Bengals fans think Tee's coming back. You got Jamar Chase. Obviously, you know, you have Joe eating up a huge chunk of the cap. We can't pay everybody. No.

We can't pay everybody. Nope. I would love it. This is not Madden Ultimate Team. This is not Madden Ultimate Team. You can't have everybody can't get a piece of the pie. You know? I don't know how it's going to play out.

I don't know how it's going to work out. I would love for the band to come back together, all of them, and run it back the same way. That's just not the nature of this business or the way it works. I don't even have an idea what it's going to look like come next season. I don't. have an idea what it's going to look like

come next season. I don't. I know what I wish it would look like, but I know from a business standpoint and a former player that played the game for a very long time,

I know it's impossible as well, no matter what fans may think. I don't know. But Pratt, Pratt requesting a trade, he understands. He knows the business. He knows what's going to happen.

Because guess what, Ocho? There's going to be no money for me. Had he not performed well, they'd have asked him to take a pay cut or they'd have cut him. Come on, now. So I'm going to beat y'all to the point. Talk to me nice, now. I'm going to go tell you real. Let's just say for the sake of argument he signed that same contract extension

instead of having 143 tackles he had 83 tackles talk to me nice now you'll keep it stacked with y'all yeah I'm picking up what you're putting down see that's what

rubs me with the team. Oh, you signed a contract. Okay. I signed that same contract when y'all released me. And I still got two or three years on it. I signed a contract, though. Oh, it only

matters if I sign a contract if I want to reduce that contract. But when y'all want to move in a different direction, it don't matter if I signed it. Uh-uh. Gotcha. Okay. Cool.

It's cool when y'all do it. It's a problem when I do it. Yeah. I like to call it, the game is the game. The better you learn to play it, the better off you'll be. Oh, Joe.

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the 11th defensive player of the year, including co-defensive player of the year, Harvey Martin and Randy White when they beat the Defensive Player of the Year, including co-Defensive Player of the Year, Harvey Martin, and Randy White when they beat the Brakes out of the Broncos in the Superdome. Jalen Hurts instead won that award for the 34th time. A quarterback has been the MVP in 59 Super Bowls. The NFL no longer announces the places of the other finishes,

so it is unknown if Sweat even finished second I should have had it Sweat said I could have had it it's all good though Ocho you like him saying this? I mean it's cool

I understand it he had a hell of a performance he was a big reason big part of their success defensively. So I totally get it. But, you know, in the grand scheme of things,

the quarterback had one hell of a game, and he's the reason why they were able to win that game. He's the reason why they were able to win that game. Obviously, defensively, they gave Mahomes hell. They beat that offensive lineup so bad, I felt bad. I felt bad for Mahomes, you know, around that second, second, second quarter, third quarter, the way he just kept getting hit. The relentless pressure all game, not allowing him to breathe,

supplicating him the entire time. No, I've been very few times I've seen Mahomes with happy feet, in the pocket, uncomfortable, not being able to drop back, not being able to go through his reads, not being able to go through his progressions. Like they did that one hell of a job. But Jalen Hurts, he deserved that MVP. He did did I just

bro you won you won the Super Bowl you won the Super Bowl and you complaining about see you complaining about an individual award yeah I mean

listen he played well now he wouldn't know goddamn Lawrence Taylor type performance now let's not go there no it was a good I mean what did he have two and a half s mean he played well now he wasn't no goddamn Lawrence Taylor type performance now let's not go there no it was a good I mean what do you have two and a half sacks

he played Ocho he played really well he did but I'm like bro now it's too soon

too soon maybe 10 years from now y'all sitting on the porch man y'all know I should have won I should have been Super Bowl MVP look at that

I say that then not now Ocho yeah but even still you're not winning that award over a quarterback Man, y'all know I should have won. I should have been Super Bowl MVP. Look at that. I say that then. Not now, Ocho. Yeah, but even still, you're not winning that award over a quarterback. Especially not when they played that well. Yeah, I guess he's like, I ain't coming back, so I'm going to say anything to make sure I don't come back, Ocho. Coach GM Chris Ballard says Anthony Richardson has him proving that he can play a full 17-game season

and that the team needs to add another quarterback to compete with him. Ocho, you like what the GM said? Absolutely. Absolutely. Listen, I like Chris Ballard. Light a fire up on the young bull. Light a fire up on him.

I like him without saying that obviously you taking a knee taking yourself out the game you already know what you need to do i hope anthony richardson doesn't take this to heart i hope he doesn't take it at disrespect this is merely just a challenge let me go and show you that i can play a full 17 game season without getting injured let me show you i'm the quarterback of the future let me show you i'm your franchise quarterback let me please do me a favor and bring somebody in to compete for my job watch me raise my level of play i have no problem with competition at all now this is me speaking i like it i love it i'm not sure how he's going to react to it normally when you have a veteran quarterback

you don't want to bring in another presence that can challenge them a la Ben Roethlisberger a la Aaron Rodgers getting upset with Jordan Love coming in a la

Brett Favre getting upset when Aaron Rodgers came in but as a young bull as a young pup this is a challenge you have to take that challenge and take that bull you brought it on yourself.

He brought this on himself. Yeah, I understand. I understand. And he understands. I hope he understands it. But I like the challenge. I wish he would. Who do you want?

Bring him in. They bringing a challenger for Jayden Daniels? What? They bringing a challenger for Joe Bo Nix? Boy, he ain't finna find... What about Caleb Williams?

He ain't finna find... He ain't finna find... What about Caleb Williams? He ain't finna find... He ain't finna find none. CJ Stroud? He ain't finna find none. Okay, I was just checking. Let me tell you something. So he brought it on himself. Hold on.

Yeah, he brought it on himself, but let me tell you something. Them boys like he just named, boy, they ain't falling off the tree like that. Them apples not falling off the tree like that. But isn't that what Anthony Richardson was supposed to be? Oh, he is. He ain't get it together.

Don't do him like that. Don't do him like that. I understand what you're saying. There are certain things he shouldn't be doing. There are certain things he shouldn't have done. He did bring this to them. That's my only point. But GM, you know better.

You know what you got on your hands. And maybe this is your way of getting them in line. Maybe this is your way of getting the best out of them. I don't have no problem with it at all. Challenge me. But of all the guys, he had the most question marks coming out, Ocho. Now, he's a physical specimen. Yeah.

Rocket arm, can run through tackles, can run over people. Run, yeah. I think he needs to redefine some, refine some of that, that touch. Because he throws everything like you're trying to throw it through the eye of a hurricane.

Throws a good deep ball. I mean, he needs some touch. But he had the most red flags when it came, not his behavior, but just his own field play right right and so hopefully he's like you know what i'm gonna show these yeah yeah repetition i'm gonna show them what i what you drafted me the with the number four pick overall for a reason i'm gonna going to show you why.

We're petition, baby. Come in in great shape. Study. Hey, I'll devote two hours a day. I'll go back and look at every game. Every game we play, I devote two hours a day to that in the offseason. And I'm going to look at some of the other quarterbacks. Hey, coach, who do you think I should look at?

Let me look at some of Brady's tape. Let me look at some of Peyton Manning's tape. Let me look at some of the other quarterbacks. Hey, Coach, who do you think I should look at? Let me look at some of Brady's tape. Let me look at some of Peyton Manning's tape. Let me look at some of Breeze's tape. Let me look at some of Roethlisberger's tape. You know, I think it would be more conducive for him, based on his style of play, to watch players that were more like him. Watching players tape that don't play like you,

I don't think it does. You know, Justin. Who plays like him? watching players tape that don't play like you, I don't think it does you no justice. I don't think I don't. Who plays like him? Number one. Oh, you were going to say Lamar? You forgot him? O'Kam?

Yeah, man. O'Kam. Okay. Yeah, I like that. But you know what? I'm just, I'm know what? I'm studying. What I'm studying, Ocho, is what they see and how so quickly they recognize and get the ball out. I got you.

I got you. I ain't looking at no footwork. Hell no. He ain't got no footwork like that. But I'm just looking to see how fast they can process information and get rid of the football. Yes, sir. I got you. Recognize it and react. Yes, sir. I got you. Recognize it and react.

Yes, sir. I got you. Bill's running back, Jane Cook. Excuse me. Bill's running back, Jane Cook, wants an extension worth

at least $15 million per season. Damn. As a running back? Well, hold on. That puts him up in the upper echelon now with McCaffrey, with the Derrick Henrys, with the Saquon Barkleys. Well, Saquon is about 13 and a half. Christian McCaffrey, I think, is about 16.

What is Derrick Henry? Derrick Henry is eight. Ooh, that's low. Jonathan Taylor is another one. I think he makes like 12, 13. And James Cook won 15? That what he said. Come on.

Come on. Come on. What's up, buddy? You just could not stay out, huh? What'd they do, twin? We gonna get our show? You hear me? You want to do a show with Ocho?

What's it gonna be called? What's my pay? Are you paying me a show with Ocho? What's it going to be called? What's my pay? Are you paying me a farmer's dog or what? I just need to know what you're paying me. Not no tennis balls because I don't play no fetch. I don't want no toys. Oh, yellow 2.0.

You should be in the bed. Why are you still up at 12 o'clock? I mean, at 10 o'clock. Yeah. Ooh. Ocho, 15? That's a lot, ain't it? Hell yeah.

Hold on. He's an intricate part of that offense now. Very, yes. Yeah, he's's an intricate part of that offense now. Very, yes. Yes. Very important piece of that offense now. But 15 is a little, you know what? Who am I to say it's too much? If you want 15, you get you 15. Are they going to pay you 15? They're not.

As for 15, they're probably going to lay him on 12. Yeah. I'm just being honest. I'm just being honest. I like Brother Cook. I like the way you're yeah. I just be an artist, Ocho. I just be an artist. I like, I like, I like, I like Brother Cook. I like the way he's thinking. I do too. Go a little high,

they're going to bring it low. And when they bring it low, they're going to shoot you right where you want to be. Aim for the stars, land on the moon. Hey, talk to me now. I'm with you.

I'm putting up what you're putting down. I'm picking up what you're putting down. Ocho. What happened? Did you get Rel this airbag bag for Valentine's Day?

Rel posted a pic earlier. What? She did? Let's see that. What a picture. Where is that? We ain't got it. We ain't got the graphic? I guess not. Yeah, I saw it.'t put this up there We ain't got the graphic

Hey She got Oh boy She must be out there Spending that money boy Yeah you know Listen If you ain't with me

If you ain't my lady If you ain't my old lady And we ain't together I ain't spending no money On you boy So you know it wasn't me I don't play that I don't even play that I don't even play that.

I don't even play that. It was him, Chad. Huh? It was him, Chad. I don't play that. What I look like spending on somebody that don't claim me publicly? Shoot, man. Oh, there you go right there. It was him. What'd it say? Ooh, somebody bought her

something nice. That might be a little boo, huh? She might got her little boo, huh? Ooh. She might got her little boo or something, huh? Man, you bought that. You ain't fooling me. Hey, listen. I'm just telling you.

I'm going to tell you like it is, huh? I was asleep all day. I'm trying to recover from my week in New Orleans. So I ain't even... Your credit card wasn't asleep. It must have been. Because I ain't had no charge. Hey, I tell you what. You'll get a because I ain't had no charge. Hey,

I tell you what, you'll get a charge at the end of the month. Boy, one thing about it, it's one thing about me. You know me. I don't leave with no money

and if you... Bro, y'all been together five years. Cut that bull jive. Talk about leave with money. It's been six though, but that's a good number. It's been six. But hey,

listen, I don't know who bought that, boy. But whoever bought that, I sure... Ocho. Huh? Ocho bought it. Nah, I'm telling you. I wouldn't lie to you. I lied for you before I lied to you. But whoever bought that, boy, keep them gifts coming, boy. Because the more you do,

the less I got to. You hear me? No, you got to match it. Not match who? I ain't matching nothing, boy. I'm from here to get the dough. Yeah, Chad. I don't know where that came from. Y'all know your boy don't spin like that, boy.

Especially not on somebody that ain't mine. You hear me? Stay with me. It's still yours. Nah, I don't know, boy. Somebody bought real something, boy. You know what? She might have bought it herself and then acted like somebody bought it.

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Aaron Owen says, what's up, Uncle Ocho? Who did you score your first career touchdown against in the league, and did you guys keep the football? Yes, Kansas City. Scored it on Kevin Ross. Ryan McNeil, San Diego Chargers, 2001. I don't know where the hell that football at. Joni Fana, what do you think?

The fact is about Joe Montana he'll still hold records over Brady Mahomes for never losing or throwing an interception in the Super Bowl or in an NFL

championship uh that's not true if you go back and look at the game in which the catch go back and check Joe Montana's stats out

I think he threw three fumbles I mean I think he threw three interceptions and he fumbled once. Check that ass to make sure I'm correct. But I feel very comfortable

because I remember that game. I'm almost certain. And they ended up winning, I think, 28-27 with the catch. I think that was 1981 in which he caught that ball over Everson Walls.

Walls had, he was Rookie of the Year. He had 10 picks that season, and they went on to win the Super Bowl against Detroit, excuse me, not Detroit, against the Bengals in Detroit. Joe beat Ted Anderson. Am I correct, Ash? Ash, you ain't got to say it like that you heard Ocho yeah

dang you could like yeah you know you could just put on the board like yes yeah it was correct uh Josh R908 Ocho love the show y'all are true inspiration even with bad optics Kansas City put out their Super Bowl.

Do you still think the road to the Lombardi goes through Kansas City? In the AFC? Hell yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Brandon L., why does no one call for John Harbaugh a Buffalo coach's job they haven't won

anything as well well John Harbaugh has won went to the AFC championship two years ago lost in the division around this year McDermott's a little different ago. Lost in the division around this year.

McDermott's a little different. You're right. McDermott went to, this is, I think, his second AFC Championship game, won't you? That McDermott has been in. I don't think John Harbaugh's going anywhere, but I don't think John Harbaugh won, what, but I don't think John Harbaugh won what?

Two years ago, I think they won what? 14 games? Last year, I think they won what? 11 and, they were 11 and six? 12 and five? I don't think that's comparable considering that John Harbaugh won a playoff game this year.

He won one last year. And the Steelers haven't won one since 2016. But we'll keep that in mind. We'll see how it plays out this year. Isaiah Lancaft, Uncle Nocho, who are your top five NFC teams that could be a threat to the Eagles

next season? And what is the greatest Super Bowl run of all time? Top five NFC teams? Threats. Oh, threats. Commanders, Detroit, Rams, 49ers. Am I allowed to put the Cowboys in there?

Yeah. I'm just going with the Cowboys in there? Yeah. I'm just going with the Cowboys last, depending on what team shows up this year. The team that's been showing up the last three years. The last 30. Hey, listen, I got faith in that. I got faith. To do what?

In C. I got faith. To do what? And see the lamb. Dylan Young said, in 2026, Fitz, Breeze, Gore, Witten, Rivers, all Hall of Fame eligible for the first time. Does Breeze make it in his first year? Yes. I think Drew Breeze and Lance Fitzgerald are first ballot Hall of Famer.

Oh, yeah. Gore, nah, he's not getting in on the first ballot Hall of Famer. Oh, yeah. Gore? Nah, he's not getting in on the first ballot. Whitten? It's going to be tough. I think he has the next greatest chance to get in. Rivers? I don't think he gets in on the first ballot, Ocho.

If they didn't put Kurt Warner in with three Super Bowl appearances, a Super Bowl MVP, a Super Bowl win, two regular season MVPs, I don't see a situation where Rivers gets in on the first ballot. That's just me. Do I think he'll be a Hall of Famer?

I absolutely do. J.W. Akron, Ocho better rethink that match with Debo. He looks like Teddy tried to fight Titus. Teddy wins sometimes. When Titus, like, if Titus step on him, Teddy ain't going to stop until he bite his nose. It is. And draw some blood.

It is. It is. It's going to be blood drawn drawn so make sure you be ready Samuel Griffith hey Uncle Nocho regarding Kelsey is there a female celebrity that would have convinced you to retire early? Hell nah no man

I ain't cursed all shit now you done made me curse man godly no nah no no and I don't think she's gonna force him to retire no nah no the hell no and I don't think

I don't think she's gonna force him to retire she got her career what he gonna do sit right and follow her around be in the studio she has her career

he has his what he gonna he gonna do her choreography yeah nah I don't I don't know um damn

I was doing good I ain't cursed the whole show man hey cupcake mama uh she was in new orleans on show she the one that got the gripper sock uh hey shannon does the gripper socks work hey them things work uh you hear me hold on let me tell you about the combo of the gripper socks with the roast sparks huh Huh? Ma? Yeah. I'm glad I got, hey, I'm glad I got hardwood floors

in my bedroom. That's all I was saying. That's a good, that's a good boy. Yeah, those sparks. Yeah. I ain't know it was like that.

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32-20. LeBron James makes his 21st consecutive All-Star game start, which is an NBA record. He broke the record last year with his 20th. Well, 19 was the record. 19. Kareem had 19 game All-Star appearances,

and so did Kobe. LeBron has 20 last year, but they're All-Stars. And then with this year, it's his 21st consecutive All-Star game start. So congratulations to all the All-Stars. Enjoy the time off. Get ready. I don't even know what to expect, Ocho, because the format has changed so much. Right.

But we'll touch on that a little bit tomorrow. But thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow night. I'm Unc. He's Ocho. We're out. The Volume. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them.

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