Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Jim Thorpe Award snub, special talent, Hunter wants to be a Bronco

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best of Travis Hunter talk throughout the college football season. Top stories include Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders goes off on Hunter being snubbed by Jim Thorpe Award, Unc and Ocho know we won’t see another player like Travis for a long time, Hunter wants to be a Denver Bronco and much more!03:10 - Travis Hunter and Shedeur Sanders put on a show in this game12:00 - Coach Prime goes off on Travis Hunter’s Thorpe Award snub15:45 - Travis Hunter’s odds soar despite the loss18:52 - We won’t see another Travis Hunter for a while22:40 - Shannon and Ocho look over who leads in the Heisman Race27:46 - Colorado looks like a completely different team31:30 - Travis Hunter wants to be a Bronco(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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They obliterated the opposition. It was Colorado's largest margin of victory since beating the Gophers, the Minnesota Gophers, 58-0 in 1991. Shador Sanders was 34-41, 438, five touchdowns and an interception. Shador,

excuse me, Travis Hunter, 10 catches, a buck 16, three touchdowns, a pick, two Hunter 10 catches, a buck 16 3 touchdowns, a pick 2 pass breakups they had yeah Travis was, no, Shadual was 31 of 41, 438

5 touchdowns 1 interception Webster, excuse me, had 11 catches, a buck 75 2 touchdowns, Travis Hunter 10 catches, 1 16, Wester, excuse me, had 11 catches, a buck 75, two touchdowns, Travis Hunter, 10 catches, one 16,

three touchdowns. Uh, I think his name is Will Shepard, uh, has six catches for 67 yards. Uh, I like this because this is what prime knew. Prime knew that they,

uh, boys estate was going to try to give JT as many carries as he could handle and let him try to get as many yards as he can. And he says, I'm not going to let y'all – I'm not going to just get up and take my dogs, call my dogs off. Trav, stay out there because I want them to – let them know just how great you are. Can I interest you in 10, 4, buck, 16, and three touchdowns? Can I interest you in a pick? Can I interest you in 10, 4 bucks, 16, and 3 touchdowns?

Can I interest you in a pick? Can I interest you in two pass breakups? Can I interest y'all in that? Yeah. He left no doubt. At all. No doubt that he's going to win the Heisman Trophy in December. What is that?

The first week of December? So that's next Saturday, isn't it? It's normally the first Saturday. It's normally the first Saturday it's normally the first Saturday in December December 14th they backed it up okay oh yeah because you know they got they got conference play now yeah

so conference play would be next weekend yeah there's no question in my mind he He's the best college player. Look, and there's nothing – look, Ashton Gentry has had an unbelievable season. Crazy. 2000 – what is he at? 2000 and – is he at 2020? Was it 2086 well we know barry barry barry rushed for 26 25 and 11 games and he had another 225 yards

uh and five touchdowns in the Holiday Bowl. They didn't count that. So he would have been over 2,800 yards and over 40 touchdowns in 12 games, which, I mean, think about how many yards you would literally – you would literally have to rush like 250 yards a game, Ocho, to beat that. 2,288. So he has 2,288 yards, and he has the conference championship next week, right? He's only going to have a couple hours.

Kevin Smith, Melvin Gordon, and Barry Smith. Okay. So Barry's 2625. 2628. 2628. So he's about, what, 350, 340-something yards. 334. 340-something yards. 334. 340.

But I love what I saw from Colorado. 340 but I love what I saw from Colorado 340 man Ocho if they could have just got Kansas now they're going to the Big 12 championship game with a chance to get no question they're going to the what you call them they'll be going to the college football playoff so now they have to rely on two

or three teams to lose. Iowa, if I'm not mistaken. Is it Iowa or Iowa State? I think it's Iowa State. So hopefully everything goes in their favor and they make it to the playoffs. I think they can cause some hell now. They can cause some hell

and cause some havoc depending on who they matched up with. So here's the hope and they do make it. Yeah, he could easily. But how many games have he played? 12, 13? He's played 12 games. He's played 12 games.

So he's already played one more game. I don't think he's getting 340. Who did they play? Who did they play? Okay. Yeah. And they're going to play in the college. They're going to play a game in the college football playoff. And they're going to give him as many carries as he needs.

I can see that. I can see that. So he needs 100 because what if they lose this game? Do you think they make the college football playoff? But who could it possibly be? man how the colorado state what's called beating the brakes off them yeah yeah so they're guaranteed at least two more games and so he's probably going to need 340 yards in two games

and there haven't been very many games this year that he's gotten held under 170 yards and I think this is why I think this is why Prime left his guy he's like look no no no no no I know it's 35-0 to Soap.

We're going to finish this thing up. Travis, his last game at Folsom Field, nobody in Colorado is going to not remember him. They're going to remember him forever. You can make the case

he's the greatest him from ever. You can make the case. He's the greatest college Colorado player ever. I mean, Cordell, Rashad Salam, Byron Rizzo White. He was a chief. He was a Supreme Court justice. He went there, but it's hard. They had Westbrook. They've had some great defenders. You know, they had Alfred Williams

and they have Hudson and they had a lot of different guys. Eric Biennium, J.J. Flanagan. They've had some guys, but it's going to be hard to say that they're a better player than Travis Hunter. No. Georgia's losing. What? 17-0, Georgia Tech. Where's my remote at? No, because if I turn that on, I'm going to be looking to my left.

Don't worry about it. But you're doing through the ball exceptionally well today. 34-41, 438. He broke his own record. He had the most touchdown passes in a single season. He upped that. Now what's he at now, like 34? Most passing yards in a single season.

I think he broke Coy Detmer's record back in the mid-'90s when he was playing for Rick Neuheisel. Yeah. He set an all-time single-season passing record. The previous record was 3,527 yards set by Coy Detmer with another game to play. So he has an opportunity to move that even further. Ocho

Travis Hunter. He had already had he was the Heisman front runner and today was his most impressive game of his career. A three touchdown performance. I want an exception of couple of pass breakups. Hunter had 10 catches for 116 yards, three touchdowns,

his fourth interception on the season. With a regular season in the stat book, offensively, he had 92 receptions, 1,152 yards, 14 receiving touchdowns, one rushing touchdown. On defense, he had four interceptions with a lot of quarterbacks not even throwing in his direction. He is the best collegiate player in football. We've never seen a guy that could do what he

did on both sides of the ball. Coach Prime goes off on Travis Hunter's snub for the Jim Thorpe Award. Time blasted the fact that Travis Hunter not selected as a finalist for the Jim Thorpe Award, saying the omission was idiotic and devalued the integrity of the award. How is Travis snubbed by the Thorpe Award?

You can have my award. You can have mine back. Matter of fact, I'm going to give it mine. I ain't using it. You're sitting up there collecting dust. So Travis can have my Thorpe Award because if it ain't the most idiotic thing in college football, if he's not a finalist for the Jim Thorpe Award, and he is, I would say arguably.

But I don't think I'm really arguing about the young man being the best defensive back in college football. It just looks bad, Ocho. The kid win the Heisman, the Heisman trophy. He's a defensive back. He's also a receiver. And you mean to tell me he's not one of the best three DBs? We already know he is.

Actually, we know he's the best DB. And that's why our prime planted that seed maybe two or three weeks ago when he was in front of the media and understanding how they were going to play games. How they were going to play games based on how they feel about him, allowing their disdain and disgust for him personally to affect the success of the players on the team that are deserving of the accolades and what they've done this year in being the best player offensively and defensively on the field. He's already said it. So again, everything is coming to a head that he knew they were going to do.

He knew they were going to do this. It doesn't make sense to me. Now he's nominated as one of the best defensive. I think it's the Nagurski award, which is the best college defensive player, but not the best. So he wanted the best college defense. Isn't DB a defensive player?

I thought that's what I could be wrong. But I thought DB was on the defensive side of football. And because we've seen DB's win defensive player of the year, we saw Stephon Gilmore, Prime won it. Rod Woodson won it. Who else won it? I think Charles Woodson won it. Rod Woodson won it. So we've seen DB's win defensive player of the year, which means they were the best defensive player that year. Okay, so you mean to tell me this man could possibly win the Heisman? He's a finalist for the Nagurski Award, but he's not a finalist for the Thorpe Award?

You know, they make their own rules. When you're in positions of power like that, and you're able to control the narrative, this is the type of stuff they pull. This is the type of stuff they pull. This is the type of stuff they're able to pull. Because you, I mean, come on, Ojo. I mean, you probably, did Charles Wilson win the Thorpe Award? He probably did.

Did Woody win the Thorpe Award? Because he won the Heisman. I'm sure he did. Because he was the best defensive player that year. Yeah. Funny. I mean, defensive player that year. Yeah. Funny. It's funny how that works. Yeah.

So, I don't know. It just seems it doesn't make sense to me that a guy could possibly win the Heisman and he plays defensive back, but he's not one of the best defensive back. He could win the, he could win possibly the best defensive player of the year, but he's not the best DB. Yeah. So how did I try to figure out how did miles Garrett when defensive player

of the year, but he's not one of the best defensive linemen. They make up the rules as they go. They do what they want to do. Travis Hunter odds soars in spite of a loss. He hauled in 125 yards receiving, two touchdowns on eight receptions. Hunter eclipsed the 100-yard receiving mark for the sixth time this season, tying a single- school record on defense hunter seven total tackles two pass breakups

and were an interception here's the thing though ocho yeah he got that interception which he dove oh we undercut it yeah yeah they don't they'd end up they'd go ahead and send him to high but they'd go ahead and send it to him listenan. They'd go ahead and send it to him. Listen, you might as well. You might as well, especially he almost had it too. If it wasn't for the ground, he would have caught that. DraftKings Sportsbook now has him as a minus 800 favorite ahead of Ashton Gentry, who has the second best odds at plus 650. Unless he rushes for 400 yards and six touchdowns, I just don't know how he overtakes him. I just don't, unless he rushes for 400 yards and six touchdowns,

I just don't know how he overtakes him. I just don't know, Joe. He's not, he's not, he's not gonna overtake him. Listen, Travis Hunter is going to win the Heisman Trophy. Everybody can see that. Everybody can see that. Now, I would hope, and again, I've said it before, those that are doing the voting,

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since Gary Barnett in 99 and 2000. That just goes to show you a team that won four games last year looks like it's about to double that win total up this year. There are a lot of people that's disappointed that Coach Prime is doing so well because there are a lot of people that want to see him fail. For whatever

reason, maybe he didn't do an interview with you. Maybe you don't like the way, you know, they call him a false prophet. I don't get it. I don't know why. It's not like you go into his church. You're not a member of his congregation. Even the people that want to see him fail. Think about everything.

If you follow Coach Prime's career, everywhere he goes, even whether it's on the field or whether it's off the field, everything he does and puts his time in, it turns a goal. Everything he does and puts his time in, it comes into fruition and there's success behind it. So if you watch him at the high school level, he succeeded. If you watch him at the collegiate level, even at Jackson State, he succeeded. It was only a matter of time, even here in Colorado.

Now you think about what he's done so far in such a short amount of time. What do you think it's going to look like next year? What do you think is going to happen when the portal hits next year? What do you think Kidd is going to want to do? Well, I'm going to worry about this year because unless they get another Shadur and Travis Hunter, let's go ahead and get this year out of the way. You know the quarterbacks are going to want to come play there. I don't think that's going to be the issue. Getting another skill player, getting another skill player,

and snatching somebody else from one of those other Power 5 schools, oh, they're going to come. You know Shador and Travis can both be top five picks. Now, what's the likelihood you get two top five picks out of the portal? So what's the likelihood of you getting two top five picks out of the portal? So what's the likelihood of you getting two top five picks out of the portal? It's some young bulls out there that can play some ball now. Now, the

chance of getting two top five picks, I don't know, but you can get some very, very good quality players, especially quarterbacks. I don't think we're going to see another Travis Hunter for a while. We can see another receiver. We can see another dynamic receiver that might transfer and hit the portal and come there, but we won't see a two-way player like yeah yeah uh oh my bad you hear the background yeah um i just think the thing is look i mean i to openly root for somebody to not have

success and i get it you know everybody because they expect black people to be be humble be glad you're coaching be glad you got this be humble they always expect us but you know why why i gotta be humble it ain't bragging if i do what i say i can i mean and the thing is because a lot of times because he was so great. I mean, to be a professional football player and a baseball player simultaneous. So, well, we couldn't do or say anything bad about him because he was at the top of his game in one sport and he was a damn good player in another sport. So now I guess the only thing we can do is just root against his team, root against his players.

And look, sometimes I expect sometimes of other people to do that. I just didn't expect that. But I should expect it because where it's coming from. From some of the people, some of the people that it's coming from, I expect another list.

Because they've always done it. They've always done it. Most of the time, for one, we're not even afforded opportunities to be in positions of power like that, to be leaders of men, especially young men at that. So you already know what it comes with,

especially when you have a coach that's not afraid to say what he needs to say. He walks a certain way. He talks a certain way. And he doesn't abide by the guidelines of what it's like to be a head coach. He doesn't. He marches by the beat of his own drum

and it rubs a lot of people the wrong way. And I think the quarterback play on some of the teams that we're used to seeing that are really good, the quarterback play isn't good, huh? The quarterback play is not good. Outside of Shador Sanders, Cam Ward, and maybe two others. Right. I think they like that guy.

A lot of people like the kid at Ole Miss, Jackson Dark. He threw for 515 and 6 touchdowns today what's the receiver name had Watkins he's rated real high too though Joe he might be the number one or number two receiver on people's that's nice 8 for 2 with 4

that's video game numbers now yeah it is and 5 TDs I mean the most I've had in the game is I've had 4 TDs one time in college but they never had 5 that's a that's a lot excuse me

and averaging what 30 yards he's averaging damn near what 30 yards a catch they're playing 7-0-7. That's 7-0-7 numbers. You're right. Yeah, but when you look at the quarterbacks that they

I think they had rated fairly high. You had Beck and you had some of these other guys and when you look at it now you hear them talking more about Shador. Excuse me, Ewers was another guy that they had rated very high, Ojo. But now you hear it's Shador. Now you hear Cam Ward.

Now, yeah, it's guys like that. And Jackson Dart, I think he was up there, but he's getting played now. I think you look at his odds going into that game for the Heisman, and then you look at what they are coming out of that game? So clearly he moved the needle with that performance that he had today. Right now, I still think Travis Hunter is the favorite. For the simple fact, boys in state, Genji, he's, look, he's going, he's going, Ocho, he's got yards.

He's getting, you know, 31 carries. I think he had a buck 47. I think he had like 30 carries last year, like last year, last week. I think he had like 150-something. But he's not doing that 250, the 208s, you know, the things like that. And so I felt that in order for him to win the Heisman, he was probably going to have to go for like somewhere between 23 and 2,500 yards because we've seen guys get 2,000 yards

that's that's whole hump and and he's got the quarterbacks and the quarterbacks with it i mean man cam ward has what 29 touchdowns but what trav is doing and the level in which he's executing he could be a guy that ends up having over 1,000 yards. I don't know how many catches he has. Can you look that up and see how many catches he has? He's going to go over 1,000 yards. Here's a guy that might have three, four touchdowns. Seven, eight pass breakups.

Double interceptions. Yeah. It's going to be hard to overlook that, Ocho. It's just so hard because he's playing both at an extremely high level and so when we look at it Woody was uh Charles Wilson did it um Champ did it Miles uh Miles Jack did it but we thought of those guys as more offensive I mean a defensive player I'm not so sure that people don't think that Trav is more of an offensive player because he's

so dynamic. And those guys, they had packages. They didn't play every snap. You know what scares me a little bit? When it comes to Travis Hunter or even Shador being mentioned and taken seriously about being able to win

the Heisman, It's about all the people that aren't fond of Dion. All the people that aren't fond of Prime and the success that he's having. I hope it doesn't affect those that are doing the voting when it comes to the Heisman race. It just doesn't

sit right with me. Shador hasn't been in the talks about the Heisman race to me, for what it seemed like for a very long time. And they're playing it fair and well. I don't hear a name because I'm getting wrong. They talk about everybody else outside of Shador. Obviously Travis Hunter is doing what he's doing

and that's a goddamn no-brainer. But it's the fact that Shador's name isn't being brought up in talks and it's not on charges, it's not on graphs. It's weird to me and I just hope that people's personal issue with prime and the Colorado Buffaloes doesn't affect the players that are playing well.

Yeah, I agree. But I think Shador's having an unbelievable season. I mean, I think he has 21 touchdowns, six interceptions. He's still completing, what, 70 plus percent of his passes, which is really, really good. He just so happens to be playing on a team with a guy that's playing both sides of the football. He's playing both of those at an extremely high level.

You know, it happens. It's kind of like, you know, you have two basketball players, and they're both really good, but one is just having a crazy, crazy season. I mean, you know, so we've seen that happen before. All right, Ocho, Colorado is one game away from being bold and lucky. George Sanders went 23 of 33 passes, 250 yards, two touchdowns, a rushing touchdown with two interceptions.

Travis Hunter started after injuring his shoulder against Kansas State, but with a 28-3 lead, he sat out the entire second half to rest that shoulder. The Buffaloes improved to 5-2 with a win today. They ain't been 5-2 since 2014,

man. I think 2014, something like that. Yeah. They look good today, man. they look like a completely different team they look like a completely different team they could have put up more points than they did too they could have put up more points than they did and you say they're bowl eligible with one more win right you gotta get a six they just beat ari Arizona. Who do they have next? Do you know? I don't. Who do they got?

Who's on the schedule? Do they play Arizona State this year? Cincinnati. They got Cincinnati at home. Okay, that's a dub. What tech? Texas Tech got trounced today. Texas Tech, they not good this year, huh?

They throw the ball around. Yeah. Listen, they always been like that. So, hell, the Buffs got a chance to go 7-2. Yeah. The score was 28-7. Colorado was up 28-7 at the half. And so Travis Hunter, Coach Prime gave him the rest of the day off. They're doing a great job. They ran the football, Ocho, they ran the football, 39 rushes,

148 yards. Webster had another big day receiving the ball, eight for a buck, 27, 23, had 23 completions for 250 yards, two touchdowns, and they ran the ball. This is one of the times, Ocho, when you look at it,

they had more rushing attempts than passing attempts. Yeah, and you know what's funny? When you're ran the ball. This is one of the times, though, Joe, when you look at it, they had more rushing attempts than passing attempts. Yeah. And you know what's funny? When you're running the ball efficient like that and you're gashing teams like that, it balances out the playbook. You can do what you want to do in the pass game when you know you can run the ball. Mm-hmm.

It makes everything easier. Everything easier. Oh, Texas Tech ain't that bad they are five and two byu sits atop the conference at four and oh tied with iowa state at four and oh k state is three and one day six and one texas tech is three and one in the conference cincinnati is three and one in the conference colorado is three and one in the conference seven and oh seven and oh six and one five and two five and two five and two kansas state has the advantage because they already beat colorado head to eight colorado yeah so but this game you know hey they can do some damage win against cincinnati and hey i like i but i like it seems to me that they're they are they get better

they just can't have that low because remember what they did to you ucf ocho they went down there But I like – it seems to me that they are – they get better. They just can't have that low because remember what they did to UCF, Ocho? They went down there and they dominated the most complete game. Even Coach Prime came on and said, this was our most complete game. And the next week, all of a sudden, they forgot how to stop the run and how to protect your door. So hopefully they played – they like, you know what? This is how we got to where we needed to be. Let's continue this.

But that defensive line, they were attacking today. They did an unbelievable job. Travis Hunter went on Destroying's podcast and said he wishes he could stay in Colorado and play for the Broncos because of the love the community has shown him. He says, neighbors, leave

signs before the game and watch his dog when he's on the road. That's live. It is. I mean, hey, look. That's one thing. Hey, they love. What? Oh, my God.

They love. Look, obviously he's a phenomenal player. Phenomenal talent. Did you see that goddamn picture of him, that video of him playing basketball? Oh, boy. Oh, yeah. He got some – yeah, he can elevate. But I can just imagine if he played for the Broncos.

Could you imagine him and Pastor Tame Jr.? One on one side, Travis Hunt on the other. Imagine if he played for the Broncos. Could you imagine him and pass 13, Junior? One on one side, Travis Hano and other. They're locking down for sure. They're locking down for sure. But unfortunately, I don't know. The Broncos, I mean, I don't think the Broncos would take him. I mean, nobody would pass him up unless you need a quarterback.

Unless you need a quarterback. Because all things being equal, I'm always going to take a quarterback. I don't care. I need a guy that's going to score the points. Because he touched the ball too much. Sometimes the person that touched the ball too much can also put you in harm's way, as we've seen so far.

Obviously, our quarterbacks are created equal, but I give you a choice. Patrick Mahomes or Travis Hunter? Josh Allen or Travis Hunter? Lamar Jackson or Travis Hunter?

Jane Daniels or Travis Hunter? CJ Stroud or Travis Hunter? Dak Prescott or Travis Hunter hunter daniel jones or travis hunter trevor lawrence well first you see you see but here's the thing though ocho i don't oh so here's the thing i don't believe had daniel jones not going to duke and been to and been coached David Cutcliffe, coached Peyton, and coached Eli. So you got two number one overall picks that was coached by him.

You know the scouts. Oh, this guy has an arm better than Peyton and Eli. This guy's more athletic than Peyton and Eli. This guy sees the field. He's bigger. He's stronger. A lot, a lot, a lot. Now, you heard what David Cutcliffe said?

Now, he coached Peyton and Eli. Now, he would know if anybody would know. Same thing if Rel says something about you. Now, you know Rel don't know. Now, she's been with him for five years. See? You see how that go, Ocho? See?

So, somebody that has coached two guys won Super Bowls MVP Super Bowl MVPs now he's coaching somebody else and he says oh as far as talent I think he might have more talent now I'm not saying he's going to be Peyton Manning but could he be Eli

Eli was a two time Super Bowl winner go to the Hall of Fame. So, yeah, Trav, man, he's phenomenal, bro. He's phenomenal. Hopefully he's enjoying his time out there on the bye week this week, Coach O. And then they come back at home against Kansas State. Yeah, I'm going to go to that game.

You going to the game? I mean, Travis talked about NIL saying, it's not about the NIL, it's about the NFL. If I would have went somewhere else, I could have gotten a major amount of money. You see where I'm at? With the best coach that's going to put me in the best situation. Time has made it abundantly clear.

The young man said he wanted to play offense and defense. Time gave him that opportunity because he didn't want to rob him of his God-given ability. Now, all I can do is do, when he's under my tutelage, let him play offense and defense.

Once he goes to the next level... I think... If he went anywhere else outside of Colorado, you think they would allow him to play offense and defense? I think if he went anywhere else outside of Colorado, you think they would allow him to play offensive defense? I don't think so. I don't think so. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's

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