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Oh, Cho, the Arizona Cardinals, and Kyle Murray, excuse me,
Kyler Murray appear to be headed for a divorce this offseason.
And more details have emerged about how their relationship deteriorated.
According to ESPN, John Weinfuss,
Kyleer wanted a voice heard in the personnel decision and the draft choices.
but for the most part, the Cardinals dismissed his request to add certain players.
Weinfuss noted that one time the Arizona acquiesced the college personnel request
and the team acquired Hollywood Brown in a draft date to trade in 2022,
given Murley one of his best friends and former college teammates.
Murray has been sidelined with a foot injury since week six,
and the Cardinals head coach Jonathan Gannon recently announced he will not return this season
while he continues his recovery.
this may end the tenure in Arizona
as ESP and Adam Shepter reported last month
that his source said that his separation is imminent.
Yeah.
Imminent.
I mean, but you could see that.
Between Murray and the franchise that drafted him number one overall in 2019.
There is no other,
and somebody say, he's in danger, imminent danger.
There's no greater word than imminent.
Yes.
Yeah.
I mean, the writing is on the wall,
especially with the way to,
treat them. I mean, whatever foot injury you do have, it can't be that goddamn bad.
It can't be that bad. And obviously, if even as well as Jacobi Resett is playing, if he's
your quarterback of your future, you're going to be able to do everything you can to get him back
on the field. But the fact that you're going to say, you know what, I believe, I'm going to
tell you what I believe, I think he's a healthy scratch. I think he's a healthy scratch. And they
don't want, they don't want to ruin any trade value for him. No, they don't want him to get hurt and be
stuck with him and playing that, that, uh, that's exactly,
because you know what they do, oh, Joe. Remember,
I know, with Russell, Russell Wilson.
Yes. I can't get you. Bro, that thing guaranteed. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So I
I understand the game that they, that they are playing. But I mean, listen,
there are some places Kyle Murray will be able to go and he will be able to flourish as long
is the system is conducive for what he does well. And they have.
have the right supporting system around him.
He,
is it, look,
after they played the Cowboys,
and I said,
I've watched,
I've watched the Cardinals games.
And I asked you,
when I came over here and we said,
Ocho,
at any point in time this season,
did the Cardinals look with Kyle and Murray
like they did tonight with Jacoby percent?
No.
I said,
it's over.
I said,
I said,
I said,
there's a great chance.
Calla might be,
hey,
no,
you're good.
Take another week.
And I'll be down.
Listen, when it comes to Kyle Murray, playing quarterback for the Cardinals,
and when it comes to Jacoby Rossett playing quarterback for the Cardinals in the chat,
I know y'all are not blind and you can see it too, especially if you know the game of football.
The two offenses with those two quarterbacks are called and run completely different.
Well, you have to, Kyle, you have to put Kyle and Morse on the move, Ocho, because he's so small, man.
Yeah, they run completely different.
Now, what Jacobi Brissette lacks in mobility and escrow.
capability, you know, and being a dual threat like
Kyle Murray, he makes up for with his arm.
Yes.
Which is why his numbers look the way they do even in losses.
Yeah.
Numbers are phenomenal.
He's been playing phenomenal.
He has.
He absolutely has.
But they're still losing.
Yes.
At the end of the day, the ones that they're mad.
I tell you, what, it's easier would you lose where the guy that's making $3 million
and the guy that's making $45 million.
I guarantee you that.
Come on, man.
Come on, that.
If it makes dollars, it makes sense.
Yeah.
So there's like, you know what?
If we're going to be whatever the Cardinals are,
let's just say for the sake of argument,
Ocho there, four and nine.
Okay, four and nine with a $3 million quarterback
or you want to be $4.9 with a $45 million quarterback.
Take your pick.
I don't want to be $4.9, but if I got my druthers,
you know what and we rather we'll take the hit this year yes or the 40 40 45 million
quarterback but going forward we want that off our books because we know we get Jacoby
Jacoby Preset who's much cheaper we're going to make a business decision now with that
business decision if you if you were saying to yourself we understand what Kylie Murray gives
for us long term then we're going to stick with him but obviously what he's done so far
from 2019 to date isn't enough for them
to keep him around with the kind of money he's making.
Ocho, the way he was talking,
he was talking, look, I'm not saying,
why I am saying it's wrong,
but he said I got to have a live outside of football.
Bro, you're the quarterback of an NFL team.
You're a franchise quarterback.
Yeah, you can't say that.
And you think playing video,
I'm just trying to figure.
I mean, yeah, you might be up there
and you might, I don't know, you would know better about streaming
and maybe the number one of the top 1,000 players on card
or whatever else they play.
But if it's not going to help you be better at your profession,
your chosen profession, I ain't effing with it.
Yeah.
And you're a quarterback and you think, and people,
and see, and people agree with him.
Yeah, that let that, what that man doing is all time.
I said, okay.
Yeah, you know, the funny thing too about it,
I don't, when I think about it, for us athletes that, that are gamers, that enjoy gaming
as a sense of peace, as a sense of something to, to, to unplug ourselves away from our
respective craft and job to relax. It is gaming.
You need to be good at your, you had to be good at your said job to get away from it.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know, I know, because if you die, Ocho, yeah, that's going to be the
problem. And when they start putting clauses, it's a,
on the amount of time. When they start putting clauses,
okay, Ocho, you got to be, Ocho got to be here
at this time. Ocho got to do this. Ocho got to do
that. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. You're right.
When they start putting, when they start putting all that stuff
in your car, Ocho. And I'm
thinking about it's like, I don't, I can't recall.
I don't remember everything. And it got out.
Bro, how does that make him look?
Yeah, you're right. For them to put that in your, because
here's the thing that guys didn't realize.
they caught on that when you take the my pants home they can tell how much study time you
actually do yeah they track everything they didn't know that at first they didn't know it at
first and there was a lot of guys yeah see when you take when you take oh cho you take film home
I see guys got stuff all got got so many tapes over their back going out and they got them in
the laundry bag you know those mesh laundry bag that we put out yeah yeah yeah they got
full of tapes and effing up left and right ain't watched the one of them
As a matter of fact, they probably taped over them.
You know what's funny, too, when it comes to that,
I had such a healthy balance of gaming and playing the game
and being a student of the game as well,
is I'm a better gamer than I am a football player.
I'm a better gamer at Call of Duty at FIFA.
No, you're not.
You're one of the top five receivers in the world.
You're not one of the top five Call of Duty players.
players in the world?
I'm one of the top five FIFA players in the world right now.
No.
No, I'm telling you top five.
Let me see your rankings.
Cause they rank all that stuff.
Yeah, I'm ranked.
I'm eighth in the world right now.
Let me see.
All right.
I got a term.
I got a piece of all.
Okay, just sit it to me.
When you pull it up, let me see your ranking because they got rankings.
Well, the chat, the chats would be able to tell you.
I'm sure that people in the chat that know them watch me stream and understand how great I am.
I'm not saying that you're not great.
But I'm saying you're one of the five best receivers.
of the five best receivers in the world of seven and a half billion people eight billion people
you're one of the five best i do not believe you're one of the five best gamers in the world
and call the duty or FIFA or whatever else you call on call the duty i'm ranked 23rd in the
world in FIFA i'm ranked i'm ranked seventh in the world like i'm one of the best you might not
even be seventh in and high live florida let alone the world
That man talking about
That man talking about
That man talking about he's in the world
And I don't even know where Hailea is
But that is a place, isn't High Lear place?
Yeah, Highley, that's all my
My Latino community, man.
Yeah, that's, yeah.
Hey, that's funny, man.
That's funny.
Hey, chat, man, somebody in the chat.
I know it's a few people in the chat out
and beat up, beat up on our, beat up on FIFA,
and a few people in the chat that I've carried and called a duty and you understand how great I am
and on this is this is what I'm when I'm on twitch I got people in my mic like are you sure you play
football how to hell you so good how to how have you had time to develop a unique skill set like this
over time to be able to carry me and call the duty like this hey oh I how you and I'm told I say
listen this is what I do I've always been the game of first and my second occupation and job
and my hobby was playing football.
Like this is my job.
This is what means more to me.
You know, gaming pays my bills.
Gaming is the way of life.
Gaming is why 98% of my relationships didn't work
because I understood gaming comes first.
Gaming, unc, my controller, my PC,
my Xbox, and my PlayStation,
it doesn't catch attitudes.
It doesn't get angry.
It knows what it.
I don't have to ask you what you want to eat
and it doesn't know.
And it takes 20 minutes to answer.
Did you put the kind of time into that relationship that you did gaming?
No, because I understood gaming is forever.
Everything else is temporary.
Huh?
I was self-aware.
It's about being self-aware.
When you're a gamer, you understand you have to have self-awareness.
Okay.
All right.
Oh, yeah, you don't have to tell me.
I understand, you know, Michael Jordan said it that the reason why he put so much into the game
because it's the most faithful thing, most rewarding thing, because guess what?
No attitude.
I'm going to get out what I put in.
Yeah.
It's going to be faithful.
But, you know, sometimes, you know, we have the, you know.
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NFL teams that reportedly took notice
on Joe, Joe Burrow comments this week
regarding his recent hardships
has endured through injuries
and off-field struggles.
and the reporters on Wednesday.
Burroughs said, do I have fun playing?
Winning is always fun.
But in general, was it fun before?
No, I wouldn't say it was that way.
I have to do fun.
I have to have fun doing it.
If not fun, then what am I doing it for?
Burroughs asked if there was a changing point
that made football less enjoyable than it was in previous,
to which he responded, reflection, reflection on a lot of things
that I've done and been through in my career.
I think, and I've been through more than most,
certainly not easy on the brain or the body.
So just trying to have fun doing it again.
He went on to the boys.
There's just a lot of things going on right now
related to both football and personal life.
Adam Schaefter addressed the situation today,
said, I can tell you this.
Other teams in the league took notice.
I can tell you that for a fact.
I know that because I was texting with some of them.
Ocho?
Yes, sir.
One or two things going to happen.
Talk to me.
If the bingles don't fix this, what's going on?
Mm-hmm.
He's going to retire early or he's going to pull a Carson Palmer.
Now, you know that number.
You know that number very well, nine, don't you, Ocho?
Yeah, I do.
Okay.
What did number nine say?
Number nine left all that money on the table and say,
you know what?
I'd rather go home and not make another dime.
Mm.
Right.
Yeah.
Hey, but this is great.
This is also interesting.
And I think Joe's words are how he's feeling right now in present time.
Coming off of a loss, having injuries, taking back and looking back at injury history.
And where we are as a team right now, collectively, as a group, he's not feeling well.
Therefore, it's not fun to him.
Of course it's not fun.
You know, losing isn't fun.
All his life, Joe Burrow has always won it all that he's done.
on and off the field he's always won so it's it's it's it's it's it's weighing in on him and he
expressed those feelings on how he feels right now the game is fun you have to create the fun
you have to personally create the fun you know and in and with doing that that also that also
comes with you know you being consistent at your job and allowing things that are audio control
allowing things that are audio control don't even worry about that
you just you you you have to do your best you know in what in what you do and i i think
maybe it's a it's hard it's hard to read you know it's hard to read especially with a
a player that's so young you only in year what year what six seven yeah it's it's hard to read
with the tell me the time you've ever heard a quarterback like that a franchise quarterback
talk like that oh feeling bad i mean shoot man no no no no no no that's what he said go
I can read it. Pull it up what he's saying.
Tell me the time that you saw heard a quarterback speak.
How he sounded despondent.
He sounded dejected.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that says he's dealing with stuff on the field.
I mean,
not only on the field,
but off the field as well.
So it thinks it's a combination of both.
Guess what?
It's a lot easier dealing with stuff off the field when you win it.
So guess what?
When things are going bad at home and at work,
because guess what?
This is my happy place.
What if everybody's play?
I enjoy it.
I get played the king.
Kings Ransom to play a kid's game.
When kids play, they happy, see at the playground.
Hey, hold on, the Bengals gave you a King's Rampson
to be able to play on that playground, too.
They gave you Jamar, they gave you T.
You know, they gave you an offensive line.
I mean, come on, now, they've done everything
they're supposed to do on their end, too.
Hey, you just told me, now you get,
hold on, wait, wait, wait, hold on, now.
He threw all the yards.
You got to have the hands.
Yeah.
He's scoring 44.
Now, see, when he was got,
all of a sudden, you know,
flip the script. Now, chat, y'all remember last year? When Joe Burke, Joe can't do no more.
He can't do no more. He's scored 38. They score 41. He's score 41. They score 45. He's go 45. They score 48.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm just, I'm just saying. I'm, I'm just saying, come on now. Come on now. I mean, shit. I mean, the part has been
broken. I don't know about his personal life. We know from records, we could read his house was
broken into that robs you of peace that robs you of security uh would i be surprised if he hadn't
if he isn't going to move if he hasn't moved already yeah probably being injured at some
i mean think about it he missed uh he missed part of his rookie season ACL he missed part of another
season fracture hand he missed part of a you know decay last season oh cho he started the season
dealing with that calf injury this week
This year, he missed nine, ten games.
Like, damn.
And we're not winning.
We're not winning.
We're not.
Well, y'all, now, ain't no we.
I ain't a part of this.
That's y'all.
Hey, we winning.
We winning us.
We win.
Hey, listen, we're going, we're going to be all right.
We just, we have to be a little bit more cautious and what we share.
That's all we got to be a little more cause because people are going to run with it.
I'm sure someone will, I mean, but he run the show.
So I'm not sure if anyone will have a conversation with him.
But cooler heads will probably have a conversation with him.
And say what?
You got to be careful to what you say.
He said, I don't got to be nothing.
You got to choose your words wise.
I ain't got to be nothing.
What y'all going to do?
Man, well, where are he going?
He ain't going to.
Because I got, hey, come on.
He ain't going to go in the way.
Where are you going?
I know you're thinking Joe leaving.
Joe ain't going nowhere.
But Joe got about another 10 years ago.
Not in Cincinnati.
You won't, you won't bet nothing.
I do.
I will.
He didn't finish his career there.
Put some, put some on the table.
He didn't finish career there.
He's not.
Put something on the table.
He ain't going to finish career.
Hey, because long as one and five is there, he ain't going nowhere.
Watch it.
Because guess what?
How long, how long, how long one and five been there?
And they're still not winning at the level that Joe think,
they should and where else he's going to go and win and where there's a position where
hold on where there's a position for a quarterback for a quarterback position where they're going
win there oh there we're talking let's talk about that it's the same thing because guess what
because he can go somewhere and he'll have more input there than what he has there and you still
ain't going to win nowhere else oh whoa whoa whoa don't try to talk this man off this ledge now
i'm not i'm just saying i'm just saying you got to be careful be careful what you ask for now
be careful what you ask for be careful what you win for you ain't no way he can
go somewhere worse than sincey not organizational wise where can he go to his worst
than fencing we listen you control the things you can control
offensively is all he needs to worry about what no that ain't a lot because guess what
they don't take off they don't take units to the Super Bowl they take teams and
his team as currently constructed isn't good enough well show me another team where
they need a quarterback they would look anything like they do over here
offensively in Cincinnati we can go right now I'm listening let me let me hear
this.
Let me see.
Let me see.
Give me just a second.
Yeah.
Let me grab.
Let me grab me a red bull while you think.
Radis could use him.
Cardinals.
Cardinals?
So you're leaving, you're leaving Jamar.
You're leaving Jamar and T to go play quarterback for the Cardinals?
Oh, they got Marvin Harrison, Jr.
I like Wilson.
and they got McBride.
You're leaving, you're leaving the Bengals.
You leaving Jamarton.
The Vikings.
Shut your mouth.
Oh, now look at it, chat.
Chat, what happened?
Auto froze.
Did Internet go out?
Did the Internet go out, chat?
Okay, that was a good one.
That was a good one.
That was a good one.
What happened?
What happened?
What your Internet went out?
That was a good one.
That was a good one.
That was a good one.
Pittsburgh.
In the, in the,
they never let them go.
I'm just saying,
I just threw that out of it.
They never let them go there.
Oh, hell no.
Hell no.
They never let them go there.
Let's see,
NFC,
NFC,
NFC West.
No,
NFC South.
Atlanta.
Look good.
Look good.
Atlanta looked real good.
Who!
I would think, you know what?
They're not going to get rid of CJ,
but what if he was with the Texans?
Nah.
Will Anderson Jr.
Stingley.
Denele Hunter,
Alighier,
Lassad,
Petrie,
Fettler, Jr.
Edwards, Jr.
Rangelo,
Do I need to keep going?
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I think I've been done enough.
Chador was named NFL Rookie of the Week after a breakout performance against the Titans last Saturday,
last Sunday, excuse me, despite being a fifth round pick and despite not starting a game until November 16th,
Shador became the first rookie quarterback this season to receive the honor.
Oh, Cho?
Yeah.
Put it into work.
Could put it with the Colts.
Can you imagine him with Buck?
Woo!
Ward, sauce.
Who are you talking about?
Pittman Jr.
Ooh!
What are you talking about?
Warren.
Oh!
You talk about.
You said it's talking about Joe.
Hey, with that defense with Buck, Frank, sauce, Ward.
Listen, man.
Listen, man.
I know, I know you.
I know you enjoying this.
You know, he's ruffled a lot of feathers.
He has us pundits and media outlets talking, you know, about how he's feeling.
And we're creating these narratives and hypotheticals of him actually leaving.
He ain't going nowhere.
No.
The only way you'll see Joe Burrow on another goddamn team is.
if you plan madden that's it so if you plan madden there you go you could trade them to a team
you want to but in real life it ain't happening what do you expect what do you expect to what do you
from should do against the bears i think it's going to be a good game i think wait they plan they
plan in it don't matter what you're playing it's cold it's cold regardless of wherever they
go yeah it's cold everywhere this time of year unless you're in like miami or somewhere
yeah yeah yeah yeah i think it's going to be another another game like like we just saw
Another game like we just saw is going to be statistically good for him.
He's going to be able to build off of some of the mistakes he made in the last game
and try to improve on them in this game.
Obviously, you practice the one to be as perfect as possible and minimize mistakes and errors.
So, I mean, that's all I want to see.
I want to see you improve, you know, week to week when you get your opportunities.
That's it.
But the most important one is getting that W, getting your team that W.
True.
I'm excited.
I'm happy for me one of the one
offensive rookie of the week
first quarterback, first rookie quarterback
to do that.
I think he has an extremely bright
future in front of him.
Just keep getting better and better control
what I can control,
which is studying,
getting better going through my progressions,
do a better job,
just understand it's okay
if I step forward in the pocket
instead of always trying to bubble.
Those guys are really fast on the edge, man.
very fast on the edge and you're not going to be able to outrun very many of them so
i i'm excited and can't wait to watch this game on sunday t j watt is in a pittsburg area
hospital for an evaluation of a lung of his lung after experiencing discomfort at the team
facility on wednesday mike tomlin told reporter later on thursday that that watt stayed
overnight at the hospital on wednesday uh i'm a little i'm a little bit cautious about
what i say because i'm not a medical expert but to make a long story short he was experiencing
discomfort when he was at the facility yesterday so we took him to the docks and they're going
through some procedures he has a lung situation that's being addressed i think uh he has some
testing and forth so forth ahead of him this afternoon so that's all i know at this juncture
he i communicated last night he was comfortable uh and that's all i really have at this point
Tomlin confirmed that Watt's status against Miami is up in the air at this point.
I mean, ooh, that, that, I'm not, I'm not sure what the issue is, you know, but his health, his health.
Did he have something with his rib?
Did he get an injection and they pierced, and they're punctual, what?
Ah, I hope that, I mean, to be, to be, to be, to be, to, I mean, to experience, like I said, normally, I think T.
T.
is what 30 31 that's not normal man 31 year olds don't experience and discomfort
if it's on the field he fell on the ball he got fun you know he said he got hit or something
it might have happened in game it might have happened in game and it didn't flare up until
wednesday sunday ain't ain't no telling come on that hey see yeah i ain't ain't ain't no telling
he knowing him trying to be mr tough guy i've heard of the i've heard of doms and we know what
Dombs is delayed onset muscle
soreness. Yes. But not
four days. Yeah.
Yeah. You're right. But okay. I'll take your word for it.
You're right. But hopefully
it gets healthy because we, I'm not
not we, but they need him out there on that field.
They need him out on that field.
Absolutely. They absolutely need him out there.
Cam Newton, who's eight years younger in Phillip Rivers,
wants to know why the coach didn't reach out to him
when they needed a quarterback. The 36-year-old said
the 44-year-old Rivers sided with the coast is almost like a slap to my
face he pointed out he did not officially retire and it's still working out ohcho yeah why didn't
the coach reach out to cam i'm not sure i'm not sure listen i would have loved to see for cam to get
opportunity obviously you hear me say cap name all the time you know i knowing that they probably
wouldn't you know bring cap back but just understanding that he wants to play and he still works out
i'm not sure why they didn't they didn't bring cam back you think about the situation that they have
on the hands already. I think maybe they
see Cam Newton and already having Anthony
Richardson, you know, even
what Cam is accomplished in the NFL
and in college, them having
a quarterback already similar to his
playing style in that
in that quarterback
room already. That may be a reason
behind it. And obviously the relationship
between Shane Steichen and his
familiarity with the offense
that they're running, I think
that they're a little bit more comfortable bringing
in someone that they feel can
already just plug it plug and play basically that's the only thing i could think of i will say this
to cam because somebody else didn't have to do something that doesn't mean that you don't have to
you see like okay i've been on tv ocho been on CBS i was at fox obviously ESPN but if i get
called back somewhere else and they say well shunnen we need you to read i can't say well i've been on
I've been on TV, man, I've been on TV 25 years.
He didn't have to read.
You can't look at it like that.
Just because somebody else didn't do something,
that doesn't mean you have to.
We've got to stop this notion.
Just because somebody else didn't do something,
well, I shouldn't have to do it either.
You want the job or not?
Yeah.
You know, you know,
that's my only thing.
Look, I get it.
Cam is in phenomenal shape.
I see his stories from time to time.
He's working out.
He's doing stuff.
I don't know if he's still throwing.
But he looks like he's in phenomenal shape.
I see the stuff that he's doing.
But we've got to stop this because somebody else didn't do something and got a job.
Well, I shouldn't have to do that either.
Yeah.
I don't think, hey, you know what?
I don't think he don't want to play no ball.
He's just talking.
He's just talking.
You think so?
He's just talking.
He's just talking.
Unk, man, he got jobs like I do, man.
He got about 37 jobs, man.
You leaving, all you leaving, all that with all you got going on,
and go play quarterback for four, five weeks?
Absolutely not.
And you're probably making exactly what you're going to be making
when you go out there on the goddamn field.
You're probably making that right now.
Where you're at, nah, no.
Well, I think the biggest thing for Cam is that Cam wanted to leave on his own terms.
Yeah.
It's a lot easier, Ocho, it's a lot easier leaving when you won't to leave.
It's like the club.
If I'm ready to go, I'm cool with it.
I don't care they, I don't care they put the bars on the thing.
But if I ain't ready to go, bro, let me get one more.
Yeah, if they turn the lights on.
Yeah, hey, first of all, I'm already gone before they turn the lights on.
Because I'm ready, I'm ready to go.
I'm leaving on my own.
Now, if the guy got to pick you up by, oh, Ocho,
the guy picks you up like this by the back of your pants and throw your ass out,
clearly you weren't ready to leave.
So I think, I think Cam does have some unfinished business.
Do I think if they, if somebody called,
Cam, next off-season, and say, Cam, look, we want to give you an opportunity.
I think Cam would take them up on another opportunity.
I do.
You think so?
Yeah.
I don't.
You got too much other stuff going on.
Too much other stuff.
Too much other stuff, that's long term.
Yeah.
And that's what.
Ocho, when you're that competitive, and that's the thing.
You're going to get too old to play football.
I know they brought Philip Rivers back for, you know,
and they try to salvage this season and keep their play.
self hopes alive, but you're going to age out of football.
You get too old to play a sport.
You don't get too old to talk.
Yeah.
And listen, now that I see Cam, now that his feet are grounded and cemented on the other
side of the fence now, I mean, it's no, it's no need to jump the hot defense.
Hey, we ain't kids no more.
Come on, come on over here.
Stay on over here in this lane and let's dominate on this end.
Let's dominate what we do on this end.
Let's beat Cam Newton from Auburn over here with that camera in front.
you. Be Cam Newton from Auburn on ESPN. Be Cam Newton from Carolina, be this,
huh, on fourth and one. You know, we, your legacy is already cemented on the green grass.
But I still didn't leave how I wanted to. Let's create that legacy on this end with that camera
in front of you, having fun, you know, talking football, talking the game. But I didn't leave
how I wanted to. What, you know what? Need me. I, I tell you. I, I tell you. I,
you I tell you what if somebody would have called you you was doing what you doing so
right right now I'd call you in 2014 what was I doing in 2014 oh no oh no absolutely not exactly
but they had called you back no I'm saying if they had called me in 2014 to come back yeah
oh no hell no I will I will hey I will I will move it I was moving it shaking huh I was moving
and shaking boy yeah I'm not yeah I'm now
Yeah, because I knew a veteran minimum was
And I were making three times that
But what I was doing in 2014, hell no.
Okay.
Oh, no, no disrespect to the opportunity.
But, I mean, you got to weigh your options.
Most of the time when you do come back
And you get an opportunity and you're on the back end
And you owe, well, I need to know how much I'm making.
That's the first thing you're going to say.
Well, you already know you're getting veteran minimum.
They're going to put some incentives in there
if you do this, X, Y, and Z.
That ain't enough because you're coming.
If you're coming in as a veteran,
you ain't even get the opportunities
to hit them goddamn incident anyway.
True.
They ain't bad.
You're going to play that game with me.
The NFL is reportedly considering expanding the amount of plays
that can be reviewed via replay in 2026, Ocho.
The NFL is exploring adding reviewable plays
including crackback blocks, low blocks,
clipping, blind side blocks, intentional grounding,
determined receiver position on the field,
illegal formation on the field, illegal formation
on kickoff, determined feet on the ground
when the ball was touched. The NFL
rule book currently explains
that anything that is not expressly
reviewable cannot be reviewed
regarding reviewable and non-reviewable
plays. Ocho, you like this?
Yeah. I mean,
yeah, eh. No.
I wish they would lead the game alone.
Leave the game alone.
Just leave it alone.
You remember how they tried to replay
pass interference and
you remember that, Ocho? And what is the
disaster that was yes
leave the game alone the game
is great as it is
you know a wrinkle here and a wrinkle there
yes I understand that you can
you're not going to make it perfect
no you're not going to get
they're not going to get every call right
you're not no
y'all keep you y'all keep tinkering
and tinkering and tinkering
mm-hmm yeah it's
it's too too much too much
and I don't know why I mean
what what is it what is it about the game
currently that the NFL and the committee competition committee and rules
committee or whatever else what is it about the game that you seem so upset about
currently I know they need to allow the game to continue to be long enough
yeah yeah don't don't don't don't don't lengthen it any more than it already is
there's enough commercials there's enough commercials going around it makes you
everybody get their money I understand that we have to have those but don't slow
the game down.
Don't slow the game down
any more than it already is.
I agree.
Time for
our final save
for the evening of the guys.
It's time for Q.
God damn.
We just started.
We moving, bro.
We're moving.
Man, whatever.
Uh, hell bell, oh, gee, the Bugs letter team with 19 penalties win this game.
It happened.
Cousins had a, had a game, had one of those cousins moments.
Yeah.
You know, 376, three touchdowns.
He didn't turn it over.
So, yeah.
he had a moment
he had a bang
Kyle Piz Sr.
was sensational
oh Joe
what more can you ask for
can't
Queers 336
gusty win by them dirty birds
Panther fans
you're welcome
yeah I'm sure they're saying thank you
appreciate you
now they need to take care
of their own business on Sunday
yeah
Blaine Pilar's Diaz.
I just don't understand why Todd won't stop with the soft coverage.
They had a 28 to go.
Todd was supposed to be a defensive-minded guy.
It was horrible.
What do you want to do?
I mean, I think the thing in a situation like there,
you don't want, I get it, Ocho.
Yeah.
And once they got to touchdown, you saw him brought pressure early.
But I don't want to give him anything.
cheap anything deep.
And because, you know, you don't get there.
They got some guys, uh,
uh, Mooney can get down the field extremely fast.
Yeah, you can, you can go now.
So, look, they had a, they had a lead and then banker through that pick that really gave
them a short field and really put them in position.
So now they got, they got new life.
They go down the field, they get a touchdown.
They don't get the two-part conversion.
and look, they still had a chance.
I think, look, this game,
it would be a moot point
if Baker would have hit Ibuka.
Because what he did is that
he stopped the clock, Ocho,
and they didn't have to burn a time out.
Or he didn't let the ball,
it didn't go up to the two-minute warning.
Then they threw it again.
Mm-hmm.
And it's under two minutes,
and I still got a time-out.
So.
Hey, J-Dub, Akron.
me and the family will be in Vegas next week I'll stop in Miami to handle your
business for a nominal fee what steak house in Vegas is worth spending 5,900 day any
bottle signing next week well I'll tell you what hold on before you answer that
when you make your way down here make sure you got all your affairs in order with your
family you trust and your will before you come on down this way uh the win uh what's the
Steakhouse and the
wind has a steakhouse. I like
to win. Carver steak. I think that's
in the
Resorts
World. They got one in Red Rocks. I can't think of the name of it off the top of my
head. Make sure you hit Eight Lounge
and Resorts World too. Man, that man said
he wants to go to no cigar bar. Oh, my bad.
Yeah, but there's got
a lot of steakhouse up here worth spending $5,900.
Tyreece man, 7557,
Hey, Uncan Ocho, Big Falcons fan here, Rahim, soft as hell.
Too many down penalties.
Love the show.
We can finally get, got Pits involved.
Yeah, I mean, he was coaching.
Like, he like, man, I'm straight.
But it's not a good look when your team have that many penalties, Ocho.
Yeah.
It's not a good look.
You can't have 19 accepted penalties.
Yeah, you win, but had your loss, would it still been okay?
No, absolutely not.
So they're going to have to fix that up because the coach,
because the owner is looking like, hold on, is that what we coach?
Because if we commit this many penalties and we're coaching it, okay,
but if we're not coaching it, but are we condoning it?
Do we jump in people that, you know what,
when they make the same mistake over and over and over again?
Right.
So what is it?
Are they not receiving it or are you not giving it to them in a form
that they can understand it?
Yeah.
But I need them, that's your job.
That's what I pay you big bucks and no whammy's for.
Mm-hmm.
J.J. Carver 80.
Could have sworn Ocho just had
Orange Tire Raptor ride his
nuggin until I saw the logos.
Oh, hey, this is, um,
listen, this is the greatest.
This is the greatest Optimus Club
Pee Wee Football ever.
This is why I'm from,
Liberty City Optimus.
This is, uh, this is our,
it's our jacket.
Yeah, I thought it was an ascot running your neck, myself.
OG undersported Thanos 26.
Real?
Where does Bejohn rank among the best running backs in the league?
Well, he's up there.
There. Right now, you know, Gibbs, Jonathan Taylor. I'm talking about McCaffrey, Bejohn.
Yeah. Do we, hey, do we leave Derek Henry and Saquan out because they have it down here?
Yeah, we're talking about right now. Yeah, they're not, they're not, I mean.
Okay. I'm just, I'm just curious. I'm just curious.
Jamir Gibbs is, is going crazy. Yeah, he's going, yeah.
Jonathan Taylor was playing out of his mind
until the quarterback got hurting everybody.
You know, you couldn't, you had to,
you're like, you know what, we're going to start JT.
Yeah.
Damn, y'all quarterback.
He can't run anyway.
Mm-hmm.
And now it's about to be someone,
it's about to be even worse.
Because I'm bringing pressure
because I know damn with,
yeah, A.C.
A. Chan?
I know Philip Rivers ain't going nowhere.
Hey, he couldn't go nowhere 10 years ago.
He damn sure ain't going nowhere.
He couldn't run at 24th.
He couldn't run at 34 and he damn show can't run at 44.
But it's one thing about him now.
Oh, he'll light you up now.
He can throw it now.
He don't throw that ball now.
Now, we'll see how his arm hold up on Joe because I can promise you he ain't been throwing,
he ain't been throwing a football whole bunch.
Hey, listen, he might have a funny throwing motion.
When you sit there and laugh if you want to, you're going to look up,
he's going to have about 300 yards on you.
Devin Wadsworth 22.
Keep pounding on, Joe, believed in us with no one else did.
Unk, the Panthers coming.
Yeah, they look good.
And I hope so.
Dave the Dundee, 74,
A, Uncan Ocho, much love and nightcap family.
What is the most fun or had the greatest moment
on your memory from your NFL season?
I was just talking to, me and Burns was talking today.
Ain't nothing like that first Super Bowl.
I was fortunate, and I thank God,
and all of them are special.
But ain't nothing like that first Super Bowl.
Yeah.
Because that's what, I mean, you play to win,
you won the ultimate game
that
yeah I mean it was nice to go
to your first Pro Bowl
because like okay
I'm one of the
whatever they take on
I'm one of the 50 best
players in the NFL
okay I'm an all pro
now I'm one of the best
you know
what
22 22 players in it
25 players in the NFL
yeah that's an honor
but man winning a Super Bowl
win the Subbo
the first one
What you got
Hey well that's hard
because you know I didn't have very many moments
you know during my NFL career
But you had seasons
I mean didn't you have a 1600 yard season
Yeah that ain't really no moment though
That is a moment
You got to take the victory where you can get them
Well, shoot, if I'm taking the victory when I can get him, it would be drafted.
Okay.
Okay.
I think, hey, chat, to give you, you know, perspective and context, I think if, let's say,
if all of you, you know, out there you play the lotto, you play the lotto, and that feeling
of gratification and that weight being lifted off your shoulders is what it's like getting drafted,
um?
Yeah.
Like seeing that name go across that ticker, you getting that phone call from, from, from, from,
Mike Brown, you know what, we're deciding to take you with the whatever, whatever
whatever round it is, and you, the crying starts from not just the pick, but think about
all the work and all the, all the struggles and all the obstacles, it took just to get to
this point.
That's what makes you cry.
That's what makes you cry because everything's, every, all the work you put in, it finally, boom,
it hit you.
And I think that would be the, I think that would be the equivalent of winning a lotto, of, oh my God,
the winning ticket and you just become
you're overcome the emotion
you know what I missed up that
the last the greatest
I guess it said how fun you had a greatest
moment or memory from your last
NFL season oh my last
yeah you don't really
talk about that that much
nah
I ain't really got no got
moment that's the reason it was my last
shit
uh moment my last NFL
season I you know what
probably playing the charges.
I was a FC player the week,
three touchdowns, 100 yards.
I broke the record for the most,
you know, receiving touchdowns by a tight end
for a career.
Oh, you were balling, what?
Yeah.
So.
Rogue one, yeah, see,
Rogue one vote.
Kyle Pitts, the first tight end
with 150 plus yards
and three touchdowns since Shannon Sharp
in 1996.
Yep.
That was
who was that?
The Chargers.
That was the charge of the 96.
I think I had
13 for a buck 56.
Well, you were bawling, boy.
I hit it with a slug-o.
Wait, you, oh, they had you out.
What?
Best time.
That's why I keep telling people like, oh, oh, this good brus, you better stop.
Well, I was running sluggles.
What time I didn't run a slow?
I ain't talking about at no gold line when you don't, you started to, no, I'm talking about I was like 25 yards out.
What?
Ratt a slug old.
I run comebacks.
I run over.
I run stop.
Yeah.
Square out.
Okay.
I see you what?
All right.
I used to cook the charges.
Slow walk to million four, five, six.
Shout out to the UPS family.
Slow Walk to Millions.
Angelo Palmer.
hashtag go bills let's go buffalo sorry ocho can't wait for the podcast olympics
i told ocho what buffalo was going to do man they got josh did you actually think y'all
was going to beat josh do you understand we had them boys on the rope now i know we're not
going to act like that do we need to rewatch the game again no you don't want to do that we had them
boys on the rope now don't don't do that hey there was a opportunity there was an opportunity
we were fin to go down to school now come on now i don't know what opera uh uh what opera you was
watch it, but that tune is he left real quick.
Okay.
Okay.
Don't worry about it.
I have 20 cases, Uncle Ocho.
I was curious, could you guess on why Mahomes does an audible plays?
He recognizes Covered Deep in Zero and as a huge Mahomes fans, I feel like he never
changed his route.
Some coaches don't allow it.
84, no, hashtag 85, go.
Because it's probably built in.
They're anticipating if you see Covering Zero, you see, because we had it.
There'll be a lot of times we didn't audible.
We just see it.
Yeah, it's already built in.
And there's one player that's responsible for the hot route.
It's already built in.
You don't have to, you don't have to audible that.
Let's go cooking.
Ask Tony that I called it offseason and told him.
Ask Tony that I called it in the offseason and told him.
Tony.
I don't know.
Nelly Belli, Broncos 11 and 2.
Do you think they have a good chance to make the playoffs
is that good?
Yeah, they got a great chat.
They're going to make the playoff.
The question is, are they going to win the division?
I think that's the most important thing.
Are they going to win division?
Keper, Norwood, Jr.
Ocho, I love you, but the bingers are losing to the Ravens on Sunday.
Kemper, you're exactly right.
They are going to lose?
Coming in?
I mean, are we not remembering every game I go to?
No.
At Paycourt, we win the game?
I'm telling you, I'm telling you ahead of time.
Listen to me.
Listen to me.
I know football.
I know football.
I know the Ravens of your team.
Hold on.
What did you just say?
You know what?
Football.
Why are you saying that word?
Did you win on Sunday?
Yeah, the Dolphins did win.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no.
Well, hold on.
Did your Ravens win on Sunday?
That's on country, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In order for you, your primary team.
Oh, so, oh, so, no.
Now you want, now you want to be, oh, now.
Okay, don't worry about it.
Lamar got something for you on Sunday.
Lamar got something for you on Sunday.
Hey, we're going to see.
We're going to see.
He's going to show me.
He's going to show you.
So you're going to be there to see it.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
I'm going to be there.
I'm going to be there.
Joe, hey, Joe, hey, see after Joe, see, Joe tricking y'all.
Joe got y'all thinking something wrong with him.
He said what he said in that press of the day on purpose.
Okay.
He said, now watch he going to drop 40 on y'all.
Lamargo dropped 41 on y'all
you must be talking about it in the bathroom
that's it
your boy is Sammy
Ocho please get Uncle 59
he needs to shave he looking like
Santa Claus
nah I tell you we're gonna grow beers
I'm growing mine out too huh
Let me see
You see yeah I'm letting it grow
I'm not I'm not cutting my hair man
Forget it
No I don't see but okay
I'm gonna take your word for it
Yeah yeah
Papyrade 94.45, Ocho, Brandon Jenning, talking spices, saying he'll beat you in a race.
Yeah, he probably good now.
Hey, Brandon.
Hold on.
Mate, we talk about my dog, Brandon Jennings?
Yeah.
Basketball Brandon?
Yeah.
Man, Brandon can't even beat me in his own respective craft.
Man, I watched Brandon, boy.
What are he talking about?
Say that you would outrun a guy now at 57 with two artificial hips?
Yeah.
I don't know how much credit you're going to get for that one.
Hey, ain't nobody on their podcast, Gil, Brandon, none of them can do nothing with me, man.
None of them.
What are they talking about?
Oh, yeah, he is on, what you call?
I would just think, I don't know why I'm thinking that.
Yeah, man.
I was just thinking about, McCants, Kenyon, Gill.
Hey, I heard McCann's too.
McCann, I'll lump you up, boy.
And, uh, I heard McCann say something about boxing gloves.
Swaggy, Swaggy.
Man, Swaggy can't even shoot better than me, huh?
ain't nobody over there
and they play basketball
I watch everybody over there man
what you talk about
hey McCannes I heard you say
something about them gloves boy
these hands registered too
but you get lumped up
play around
play around if you want to
hey you're looking like Martin
on that episode
boy
Robert Chavez
Ocho I dog you in FIFA
at the Seasers
got video
man stop playing with me
man don't play at me
it's mean
it's Ocho
Oh no Ocho
Oh, I didn't know you have a baby and our grand baby.
You trifling.
How can you use that bitch?
He can use that, yeah.
He could use that $1,500.
Yeah, I knew it.
I need it.
I keep that thing on me, uh.
Man.
I keep that thing on me.
Big Blue Woo 8607.
Ocho, will you give the same deal?
The Rams gave the lines for Stafford for Barrett for Barrett.
even another third thoughts on uh no he go have to force their hands like like like uh carson
they're not just gonna just gonna trade him and that man ain't that man ain't going nowhere
man you hope not uh yo borough yo boy sammy burrow to the guppies
now all of a sudden you guns hole for that huh no for what you're not leaving huh you're not leaving
one o and five i'm telling you i mean that's why i'm not even paying none of this no mine it's
sound good but uh junior underscore cool cat yo uh my spurss put belt bta to your lakers last night
no wimby v a hemi ashting jenty spurs and five yeah that's a good one that's a good one that
That's a good one.
Yeah, y'all did a double order.
Josh R-2808,
borough to aisle 7,
Home Depot,
lawn department.
Damn,
Ocho.
Your boy and Sammy say,
Ocho,
say a joke before you leave.
Oh, man,
you should have told me,
man.
Yeah,
and you should have told me,
I ain't got,
I ain't got nothing in the chamber.
He doesn't have one for us on Sunday,
chat.
Yes, I got you Sunday.
I got to Sunday.
Oh, we off Saturday?
Huh?
We off Saturday?
Yeah.
Oh, that means I got two days off?
Yep.
Oh, wait, that's why I love y'all.
I love you, man.
I love you, man.
Hey, boy, I'm for the comeback Sunday with so much energy.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Because then you got by, uh, then as you go Sunday Monday, you off Tuesday.
Then you go by eight days straight.
Wow, what happened?
What's wrong?
Because you got Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, Monday.
college football
college football
play I started Friday
I thought you were trying to tell him we had eight days off
I would say hell no
no
what do you think the greatest sports prime
is in sports history
my boy says MJ in the early 90s
I say Michael Phelps in 2008
when he won
eight gold medals
probably Tiger
Tiger was playing 15 tournaments
Winning 8 a year
Yeah he was nice boy
And the tiger slam
He was nice boy
That concludes this episode of nightcap
As the Atlanta Falcons kicks a walk-off field goal
By Zane Gonzalez
To beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
By the score of 2928
Cousins had an out of body experience
He had 30 or 44, 373,
Three touchdowns.
They ran the ball 21 times for 111 yards.
And Kyle Pitts went off tonight.
11 catches, a buck 66 and three touchdowns.
He became the first tight end with at least 150 plus receiver yards
and three touchdowns in the game since I did it against the San Diego Chargers
way, way back in 1996.
The Buccaneers losing this game,
that means if I'm not mistaken,
the Carolina Panthers are not in first place, if I'm not mistaken.
But we'll see if they're going to do something about it.
Maybe they can consolidate it just saying by winning on Sunday
and gaining a little bit more separation because Tampa has the head-to-head,
if I'm not mistaken, they're head-to-head meeting over them
because they've already beaten them one.
But since they're in the same division, they do play again.
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Again, the Atlanta Falcons moved to 5 and 9 thanks to a 2928 victory.
Thanks to Zane Gonzalez walkoff game-winning field goal as time expired.
And they've nipped the bucks at the buzzer,
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