Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Joel Embiid out, Brandon Jennings money, DeAndre Hopkins Chiefs

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Philadelphia 76ers Joel Embiid sitting out in the home opener against Giannis Antetokounmpo and the Milwaukee Bucks after playing in the 2024 Paris Olympic games. Later, Unc and Ocho empathize with Brandon Jennings quitting basketball because friends and family constantly asked for money, Tennessee Titans trade DeAndre Hopkins to the Kansas City Chiefs and much more!03:35 - Bucks def Sixers09:19 - Lonzo Ball returns20:21 - Brandon Jennings reveals why he stopped playing39:14 - DHop traded to Chiefs(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He's not doing no back-to-back. Right now, he ain't doing no front-to-front either. And the NBA... The NBA is going to investigate... is going to investigate, Shams reported. He played in the Olympics but can't play week one and B was ruled out

without a specific injury designation for the team describes as left knee management. The NBA is like, hold on. The Olympics been over

for two months. Right, right, right. You can't even one game? Yeah, he might. He might. Listen, he might restrain some in practice and we? Yeah, he might. He might. Listen, he might have strained something in practice, and we don't know about it.

He's a... Look. He's a large man. Yeah. You're talking about 7'1", 7'2". He's at least 300-plus pounds. What, he 300? He's not even fat.

When you that tall, you can hide a lot of weight okay okay okay but you know think about Shaq right when you see Shaq and you say he's 7'1 almost 300 or 290 no Shaq like 355 what yes Shaq was 3

no I'm talking about right he's 355 right now I'm talking about when he was playing Shaq came and Lee Shaq was 3... No, I'm talking about right... He's 355 right now. I'm talking about when he was playing. Oh, when he played Shaq, came in the league, Shaq was probably 315. But he looks solid. He's solid, bro. You know?

So you look at it... You stretch that out, though, Ocho. We're looking at 315 on offense or defensive linemen. They're 6'4", 6'5". He's 7'1". Baby, why? Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

So he's six, seven inches taller. Yeah. Than an NFL player. Yeah. I just don't, when I look at him beat, I just don't see no 300. Yeah, he 320, probably 325.

And he got to get that weight up off him. If he get that weight up off of him and bring it down a little bit, it help his knees, man. It would. But Ocho, he eating, like you say, he eating McDonald's. He only, Joel Embiid. He eating Big Macs.

He eating chicken sandwiches. They giving him therapy. He on the table. They massaging his ankles and doing his eat. He eating Big Macs. He eating the table. They massaging his ankles and doing his eat. And he eating Big Macs. And he eating fries. Okay, that's how he won that MVP thing. That's what it is.

And now that's what he does. He won it right there. See that? And he played first game. Can't play back-to-backs. You do remember? He missed like his first couple seasons, though, Joe. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Eating Big Macs. Yeah, the injury. Eating Big Macs. Yeah, the injury book. Eating Big Macs. He was eating Big Macs. No, he had nothing to do with nutrition. Well, he had nothing to do with nutrition. You was just praising the man for eating Big Macs and winning the MVP.

I'm just telling you, he had a special diet the year. Oh, he won MVP last year, right? Two years ago. Yeah, two years ago. He told me about his nutritional plan and thanked me for, you know what, because of you, that's why I was able to accomplish what I did. I'm just telling you what he told me. I'm not telling you what I know. I'm telling you what I heard.

But he's going to be all right, though. He's going to be all right. And then just because of the way that I kind of understand him not wanting to play the back-to-back and being able to play what I consider a full season for him, if you don't have to play back-to-back. Well, I mean, the NBA would love it that if he did, because guess what? They pay back-to-back. Hey, you know what? They could be nasty, too too you know what they could do they could say

well if you if you don't want to do back-to-back games the games you don't miss how about you don't get paid man uh the nba pa ain't going for that oh yeah yeah yeah i understand i understand but i'm just saying i get it i think because because because of his size and the wear and tear up and down the court, to put on somebody of his size, I get it. I get it. That was so impressive about Shaq. And you notice Shaq didn't really start having injuries until, you know, as he started to get older and he wasn't in the condition that he needed to be in.

Right. But when Shaq was young, Shaq was playing 75 games up and down the court. At least Orlando Shaq. Yes. Okay. Yes. And even for a couple of years with the Lakers. But look, as you get older, it's kind of like, Ocho,

when you play in a cold, when you play in Cincinnati or you play in Green Bay, it's harder to get that weight up because as you get colder, you don't sweat as much, you bundle up. Yeah. And so now, all of a sudden, you find your weight starting to creep up. Now, that's something I really never had

no problem with. My weight was... Even as I started to get older, Mike said, you want to set your weight a little higher. I said, nah, I like the discipline of what it forces me to do. Don't give me no out.

Lock me into this. And so as you get older, Ocho, it gets harder. As you get older, you got to eat better, or you got to work out harder, or you got to do both of those. And so, and it's hard man when you get injured because here's the thing think about it ocho you get in your best shape what are you doing you working out you get injured what can't you do work out you can't work out now all that weight

that you lost because you work it out eating well you gain it right back yep gain it right back you do Lonzo Ball had five points in his Bulls first game since 2022 his first regular season game in more than two years

he had a cartilage transplant in his left knee March of 23 Lonzo Ball five points four assists two rebounds

in 14 minutes in a 123 123 111 loss they lost to the Pelicans that's that's live man medicine rebounds in 14 minutes and a 123-111 lob. They lost to the Pelicans. That's mad medicine. What's the difference?

I'm glad you brought this up now. What's the difference in Lonzo Ball's injury and what's going on with Kawhi Leonard? Whatever Lonzo Ball, I'm sure, boom, Kawhi need to holler at whoever the doctor is, even though it did take two years, but the fact that he's able to come back now and play. Shoot, Kawhi need to holla at whoever Lonzo people is and get that handled.

Yeah. Kawhi like 33, Lonzo like 25. Oh, shit. Damn. I mean, this is my first time. They probably got that. I don't know if they grew it or that's a cadaver, you know, Oh, shit. Damn. I mean, this is my first time. They probably got that. I don't know if they grew it or that's a cadaver.

You know, because, like, you know, sometimes, you know, you organ donor and, you know, you have cadavers. They take body parts. They take ligaments and stuff. And they and they. So I'm trying to figure out. It'll be interesting to ask if you can look that up. Was that a cadaver or did they grow it? Uh,

cause I know they've been trying to grow ligaments in a dish. Uh, but you know, anytime you put something foreign in the body, the body's going to attack it. Like you don't belong here. Get your ass out. And so that's how you have to take, uh,

uh, uh, a medicine to, you know, to, to fight the effect, you know, to fight because your body wants to attack a foreign object that's in your body.

Like, you weren't born here. Get your ass up out of here. Well, you know what? You've had multiple surgeries. You've had injuries, obviously, during your career. Have you had anything that you had to come back from from a long time and still play?

I'm not talking about once you were done. Like, an injury that, like, you know what? Damn, I'm down. I'm going to get this surgery. I'll get this procedure. And then it took you a while to get back. No, I've never had anything, had a surgery in season that required me to come back from.

Yeah, I had sprained ligaments that I ended up having to come back from during the season. But I missed, you know, I missed a month. Let's just say I missed a month. I dislocated my elbow. I missed a month. That was the most difficult thing that I had to come back from Ocho, but normally, you know, sprained ankle or something like that. You miss a game and then you come back. It's hard though.

It's hard because the speed of the game and now all of a sudden you got to cut back up again. And it is tough, man. It's hard because the speed of the game and now all of a sudden you got to catch back up again. It's tough. It's tough. I think I missed when I dislocated my elbow I missed four weeks and all of a sudden I went I have no pads on.

So as I start to ramp back up, I'm wearing my pads because I got to get back used to wearing pads. Right. So that's the process. Now I got to get back used to wearing pants right so that's the process now i got to get back used to wearing pants i've been out of pants for two weeks three weeks so okay i know we got a target date so now i start putting the pads on getting used to my pants uh i got a big brace on my elbow i got to get used to wearing that on my elbow trying to catch knowing i can't extend but so high because I got this brace that's only

going to let me extend so much because I don't want to run the risk of dislocating them again. It was a donor. So it was a cadaver. Okay. That's dope. Man, I'm telling you, medicine is unbelievable, man.

Hey, do we know if he went overseas? If he got... Listen, tell Kawhi, tell Kawhi, come take my knee. Come take my good knee. I don't need it right now. Tell him get it back after basketball season. Get it back, because I got to play soccer.

Because, you know, sometimes they do that with ACLs. They'll get it from a cadaver. With ACL? Yeah. Oh, man. Let me knock on wood, man. Thank goodness I didn't have to deal with that. What these doctors can do now?

Listen, medicine and technology is so far advanced. That's why I don't understand a situation like brother Kawhi. How is it not resolved? As advanced as we are in every damn thing, not just medicine, just everything. But here's the thing. Like you said, everybody ain't willing to take those, those steps or go to that. Right.

Like you said, you wasn't taking no needles. Everybody don't want to take them injections. Everybody ain't going to go to the umpteenth degree to try to get back out there. Lonzo says, I want to play. Okay.

Well, we, we got this, we got this surgery. Um, we can get it. We can Well, we, we got this, we got this surgery. Um, we can get it. We can get a, uh,

uh, some carnage from a cadaver and. Okay. Maybe Kawhi. Okay. Not without knowing, but I'm saying, but everybody,

everybody ain't willing to go that, go that extra mile. Oh, Joe, get back on there. Right. Okay. I got it.

I got it. Okay. Brother also made a return from injury as well. LaMelo Ball had 34 points, 11 assists, and 8 rebounds to lead the Hornets to a 110-105 win over Houston. The Hornets are counting on LaMelo to be on the court a lot more than he has in recent

years as they attempt to end an 8-year playoff drought. He just, he phenomenal. LaMelo, he nice, boy. Gotta stay healthy. He nice. But you think because his frame, because he's so small, we really can't blame, we really can't blame his frame

and him being small because, hell, AI was small just like that too. Yeah. I mean, see, Lonzo and Melo, see, Jello built like LaVar. He got a football body. I don't know if you've ever met LeVar, but LeVar has a football body. He got wide shoulders. He got

big legs. He built like a football player. Lonzo and Melo are thin-framed. And see, I mean, rolled his ankle and Melo was out for the year. Lonzo had that knee. And maybe it's a situation where both maybe tried to come back too soon.

Because when you're an athlete, Ocho, your mind, I want to play. I want to get out there. Trying to get on that court. Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. But I'm glad to see both brothers are back. Hopefully, Melo can stay healthy. They can make some noise.

I like the guy they got from Alabama. What was the other guy? With him and Melo, they can make some noise. Oh, they can make some noise. I'm not saying they're going to do anything. I like Orlando tonight. Yeah. They can make some noise. I'm not saying they're going to do anything. I like Orlando tonight. What's – yeah. Brandon.

Brandon Miller from Alabama. He can go. Yeah, he can go. Hey, he nice. Yeah, yeah, he can go. And while I was watching a little bit of the Orlando game, Orlando beat the Brakes off the Heat. They dedicated the court

to Pat Riley. Yeah. Oh, he going to be the deal. He going to be the deal with. Oh, yeah. You're nice.

You ain't had to say they beat the Brakes off the Heat. You ain't had to say it like that. It's one game. Okay. Well, maybe you get some new breaks. You got them beat off. Hold on. Let me ask you a question. When it comes to the East, who do you think coming out of the East? Man, Boston look good.

Boston look good. Boston look good for the next five years because you got to realize, look at their players. JT is probably 25. JB probably 27, 28. You still got Derrick White. You still got Holiday playing at an elite level. Przingis, as long

as Przingis stays healthy. Big Al. And then Big Al is up in age, but what they ask him to do, he can play a couple of years. They built for the next three years, but they're going to be a tough out in the East for sure. And they're homegrown. Yeah.

I like it. I like the Celtics. Listen, defending NBA champions, but I'm from Miami, man. If I got anything to say about it, I'm not sure if we have enough weapons. Y'all don't. Enough fire power.

First of all, you got to keep, what you call them, healthy. Bam or Jimmy? Tyler Hero. Tyler Hero. And Jimmy. Bam, bam, there. Bam, bam, bam, straight. Bam, going to be there.

But Jimmy, you got to keep Jimmy healthy. But Jimmy kind of coasts through the regular season, and then he turns it on once he gets to the playoffs. Playoff Jimmy. Tyler Hero. He turned into somebody completely different. And you remember Pat Riley, he told Tyler Hero, bro, you got to stay healthy. We turned into somebody completely different. And you remember Pat Riley told, he told Tyler Hero,

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it got too much about money and basketball is my freedom and my basketball is my therapy. But once basketball becomes a job and my basketball is my therapy but once basketball becomes a job and people start to look at it as a job atm it kind of gets depressing i mean no matter who you are you don't want to be looked at as a cash cow i have a lot of people tell me man you don't really care about me how you say you love me we family we cool we friend and when i need you we talked about this oh joe you don't give me no money yeah i'll give a damn like you know yeah listen they'll drain you boy family will drain

you they know no limits it will not stop and all you're doing is is you're enabling them the more you give the more you give the more you have to keep giving your friends you have these entourages i i see people always walking you have these entourages. I see people always walking around with these entourages. You know, you got a bunch of people and I understand

the people you grew up with. You always want to keep it real as people may say. Man, shit, you're a fool. My grandma said one thing, a fool and his money shall soon part ways.

And one of the easiest ways for it to part ways is the wrong people around you. The wrong people around you. The wrong women you're dealing with. Huh? The ones you happen to chase. The one, oh, I ain't going 50-50. Yeah, okay. Well, good luck.

Enjoy it. The better it look, the better it look, the worse it is for you. Yeah, man. Come on now. Hey, listen. The better it look, the worse it is for you. But that's what Come on now. Hey, listen. The better it look, the worse it is for you. But that's what I did, Ocho. See, the difference between you and me. See, you like things that's

good for you. I like things that's good to me. Hey, but it's difficult, huh? It's very difficult because as dudes, especially when you're young you get caught up you get all this money and you don't want to tell people no

and before you know it and when you look up because you're making so much money right now but you're going to look up man five six seven years from now where all my money go well god damn what happened you know them chains and watches

that jewelry them nightclubs them trips them purses them bottles you know going to the club spending $60,000 $70,000 $80,000 that shit go fast if you have no financial discipline and you think just because I'm making

$30,000 or $40,000 a year it go fast boy you know Joe and to thing, just because I'm making $30 or $40 a year, it go fast, boy. Oh, Joe. And to think of a family friend like, man, I don't know what happened to all that money. I gave it to your punk ass. That's what happened to my money. Hey, they'll never understand.

They'll never understand because the little bit that they do make, they can't manage that. Yes. They can't manage that. Yes. They can't manage that. So, you can't manage your income and somehow you want me to supplement your income.

You want to police mine. Man, if I was you, see, that's why you ain't got it. I already know. It's tough. It's tough because it's very difficult especially for the fellas that

grew up around certain people around certain areas at some point you know to the point where you hang around the wrong dudes sometimes they get they get extorted huh yeah you're right you're not you're not hold on let me let me you're not you're not hearing me some of them not even friends you know you Yeah, you're right. You're not, you're not. Hold on, let me, let me. You're not, you're not hearing me.

Some of them not even friends, you know. You, you, you, you round the wrong crowd. You get next door. Yeah, it's, it's, it's tough when somebody that you trust or you think you have, uh, you cool with and they pull, they pull some. Money, money. Hey, man, look here, man. Money. Hey, listen. Say no and watch what happens.

Oh, yeah. Say no and watch what happens. Oh, yeah. Say no and watch what happens. And they're going to keep on taking. They don't never stop. You know, and the sad part about it is, Ocho, they forget the thousand yeses. They only remember the one no. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, they're going to remember that no.

Man, man. Hold on. Man, I really need you. You said that the last 15 times. And I gave it to you. So what's the... Oh, man, man, I really need you. You said that the last 15 times and I gave it to you. So what's the, oh man, man. Hey, I, man, I, man, sharp. I know, but bro, this is just the last time you said that the last time, the last time, the last time, the last time, the last time.

Yeah. But you know, you've always told us stories about, you know, those who are close to you will always be able to have access, so you will always be able to help. Has there ever been a time with you where you've had to cut a family member off because they

continue to take advantage of the situation of knowing that you're going to always give? Oh, Joe. Outside of my brother and sister, I only got one cousin that got my phone number to get to me you gotta go through my sister my sister said well I'll tell him

I mean and I was like bro I said I mean I had a friend that you know every time he needed 200 or he needed 300 he needed this

I said bro if you got a money tree in the backyard and every time you need something you go pluck the money off pretty soon there ain't gonna be no money in the tree I like that's a good one he's like oh yeah time you need something, you go pluck the money off. Pretty soon, it ain't going to be no money in the tree. That's a good one. He's like, oh, yeah.

He ain't never asked me for anything else. Right. He know he was skating on thin ice. I don't mind helping people. And I think that's why I've kind of been blessed. I've been very, very fortunate. I've helped a lot of people. Helped a lot of people. And I think that's why I've kind of been blessed. Uh, I've been very, very fortunate. I've helped a lot of people,

helped a lot of people. Um, and I never asked for it back. I, I, I don't recall. Only one time, only one time in 30 years.

Has someone paid me back? And when he paid me back, I only, I only took 30 cents on the dollar. Right. Because I wanted to make sure he was on his feet. But for the most part,

Ocho, I've never given somebody a 10, 20,000 and they paid it back. I'm cool with that. I'm cool. I'm good. Lord has blessed Shannon. He has allowed me to help my mom, my sister, my brother. Before my grandmother passed, I was able to do a lot. So I don't haggle about no money.

I don't. I don't. And the one time I wanted to haggle about money, my agent, Marvin, has always told me, he said, don't worry about it. Whatever you lost, the next person you work for, they'll pay. We'll put that in. We'll put that on them. Sure enough.

Sure enough. So I don't worry about that. I don't worry about that. Yeah, I help. I help people. If you cool with me, if you've ever been cool with me, not the guys. My homeboy

is my homeboy. If I cut you, if you're a guy and I cut you off, that's it. That's it. Because I feel you tried to take advantage of a city. Women. If you've been cool with me, you like,

Hey, I have a simple rule. Take the brand. Yeah. Take the brand. Right. 10 years from now, you hit me up.

I got you. That's how I operate. Don't you? I got you. Right. But you got, don't you? I got you. Right. But you got to protect the brand. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, that's tough too. That's tough, especially when it comes to women because in disguise, until you really sit back and look at it and understand what's going on and you really dissect the situation you're in, like half the time, dudes, they got the money. I know it's good to always want to give and help.

And sometimes they don't even realize they're being taken advantage of. You think about investing. It's always an investment. Anytime you pour, anytime you put money into something, you're given something, you always expect or want,

you want something in return. And most of the time, if you think about it, based on the decisions that you make on the type of individuals you deal with, there is no return on that investment. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's just going out the window.

And you think because I'm making so much, oh, it's cool. Oh, no, no. It's just going, it's just going, it's going out the window. And you think it's always, and you think because I'm making so much, oh, it's cool. Oh, it's good. But you never understand until you don't have no more money. And then all your friends disappear.

All the ones that used to be hitting your phone, the phone calls stop, stop coming in. The test mess, text mess. Oh, I would just call in and check in and see how you're doing. You know?

Listen, bud, listen. I look at money, like if I give friends, family money, I look at an investment. When I invest money, my financial people says, okay, Shannon, X. This is a five-year investment. This is a five-year investment this is a 10-year investment this is a 15-year investment now when you put the money here can you do without this money for five years

can you do without this money for 15 years can you do whatever the case may be. Now, Ocho, there might be some unforeseen. Now, I got rainy day. I absolutely got to have it. I got money I can go get my hands on right now. I absolutely got to have it. But for the most part, I put money aside five years, 10 years, 15 years. I'm good. If I give somebody something, Ocho, I already know. That's a

100 year. In other words, I'm not getting that back. No. But you have to, Ocho, you got to be able to make peace with that decision because you're going to get upset. See, I didn't even, you know what, Ocho, I bet you didn't know money smell did you

give somebody a hundred dollars man you want that fucking hundred dollars back yeah it wasn't fucking when you got it I wish somebody would just ask me for a hundred dollars I can't remember the last time a mofo asked me for just a hundred dollars I think it started a band

it started a it started a band it It started a band. It did go on from there. Bro. Yeah. Look, you follow hard times, I get it though, Joe. Look, sometimes you go through things, you know, you have an illness in the family or so forth and so on.

I get it. I get it. Everybody don't have the best medical. Everybody don't have a job that pays them like you and I have. Everybody didn't play in the National Football League. And I'm very fortunate. Like I got with Marvin at an early age and he was able to help me, help me secure myself.

And everybody's not like that. Everybody ain't going to make a ton of money. And everybody, a lot of people, Ocho, is a medical emergency away from being bankrupt. Medical emergency will bankrupt you. Yeah. So I factored that in. I was like, Lord, you know what?

Hey. They need it more than I do. I said, I know you got me than I do. I said, I know you got me. I know you got me, Lord. Yeah. I think that's one of the reasons why I'm always,

I've always been so willing to give, um, to the point where it's, it's, it's called, it's called, it's caused issues, you know, and home because it's always like,

you got to, you got to cut that out, man. Yeah. Cause that can go towards something in here. But listen, this is the way I've always been. I've always been this way. So I, I even, I had to stop the tipping at the restaurant. I had to stop tipping the way, because it was like, listen, like you're going to have to, you're going to have to seize that. I mean, but listen, I've been doing this 20-something years. I know, but times are different now. And I'm like, so I don't want to be combative. I just slow down.

I just slow down. You know what it is, Ocho? And I tell them, hey, tell me what you think. I mean, I was in a situation, Ocho, I say, tell me what you think we're missing out on by me helping X, Y, and Z. If you can show me, say was in a situation, don't you? I say, tell me what you think we missing out on by me helping X, Y, and Z. If you can show me, say, well, Shannon, I wasn't able to get what I wanted. The house wasn't able to get what it needed because you did X, Y, and Z. If you show me that, I ain't got no problem.

Now, I will say this. When it comes to Spanky, Lib mama and granny and the kids that's seven people yeah i'll lose it all i'll crash out for them right every dime now if you want to say hey if you want to say hey you know your cousin uncle or this or that, okay, I get it. Okay, fine, no problem. But there are some that are non-negotiable. Because when I didn't have anything, I had them.

Oh, yeah. And that's how I look at it. So for me, it was my brother and my sister. And I tell you, the relationship from them, if you notice, like when I'm around them, I step back. Like when my brother, you saw everybody's like, man,

you could tell Unc has respect for his brother. When he talking, I step back. My sister talk, I step back. Because they raised me. They raised me. They taught me how to tie a shoe. They taught me how to bathe myself. They taught me how to brush my teeth. They taught me all the things that a mom and dad would teach a child. They taught me that. So it was just us. That was it. My sister helped me with my homework. My sister resigned my report card. My sister did that. My brother showed me how to be a man,

showed me things that I needed to know. So for me, I said, that's a non-negotiable. My mom gave me life. My grandma gave me everything but life. Right now, the kids, they know. Okay, what you doing? How do we find ourselves in this situation? When did you know about this? What did you know? When did you know? And how are we going to get out of it?

But there's some things that are non-negotiable. Now, hey, that doesn't mean that if I got a woman, if I got a lady in my life and she comes to me and she say, Shannon, you know what? My mom's struggling. My mom and dad. What you need? Right.

Hold on. Within reason. Yeah. Within reason. Yeah. Within reason. OK, OK, OK, OK. Yeah, I can't. But I can't.

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Oh, Joe, because, you know, look, I think the thing for me is that it's not so much the money. It's the freedom that it allows me. That's that's that's the thing. And I worked and people because I work because I love being free. I love my family being free. I know my sister go to bed and she don't worry about nothing. I know my brother go to bed. He don't worry about nothing.

I know my mom. She's like, Hey, cause she know her baby got it. And if he got it, she got it. Yeah, my mom. My mom just played slots. I said, Mom, you just wasted my money. Let your mama, mama have fun. You don't work.

You don't work. Hey, do what you do. Go have your fun. Hey, you go to church. You want to go to church two, three times a week. You want to go play the slide with a girlfriend. Right, right, right. But that's how I am, Ocho. I'm not, like I said,

I got somebody in my life, their family needs a little something, I got you. Yeah. I know we don't go to Wales. He ain't nothing. You could have done better anyway. I know that's't go to Wales he ain't nothing you could have done better anyway

I know that's coming Ocho they gonna talk reckless about your boy but it's okay every time it's okay Ocho every time D-Hop traded to the Chiefs Ocho Mahomes might take some time to develop rapport with Hop but equipping him with a physical target

who thrives in short areas gives him many easy throws where the shutoff once rights was lost. And with his contract set to expire in the spring, Hopkins is also, he could set up, showcase his skill, and maybe get another contract from the Chiefs or he moves on down

the road. But I like this for both parties. I like this for the Chiefs. I like this for DeHart. Ocho, what you think about the trade? I just said, what show was it I said DeHart was going for the Chiefs. I like this for DeHoff. Ocho, what you think about the trade? I just said, what show was it I said DeHoff was going to the Chiefs now? Was that last week or the week before that? I thought he should have gone.

I hated that he signed with Tennessee. I understand they had the money. In the first place. You went to get that money. Thank you. Yeah, went to get that money. But the pick, him going to the chief is good it's awesome it's awesome i don't think anything is wrong with d hop you know at one point d hop was the top five receiver in this nfl and d hop is one of the greatest pass catchers in his nfl who don't drop

nathaniel up there with the chris carters and the laughing Gerald's, he can dominate the middle of the field, the short routes, the intermediate routes, you know, the pigs, the slants. Oh, he's,

I don't, I don't see him as, as much of a deep threat, but anything 20 yards and under, Oh, come on, baby. We cooking.

We told him we couldn't like, we couldn't like the chef Gordon Ramsey. That's the kind of D hop. And if you put him in the right situation, situations matter for all players. Yeah, for sure. If he's in the right situation. Using the players to his strengths.

That's what they're going to do. Andy Reid understands what DeAndre Hopkins' strengths are. You look at the old film. What did he do best when he was in Houston? Look at him in Arizona. Arizona. Arizona. You implement them in the same way in the offense you have.

I guarantee you what we're going to see. I'm not sure who the Chiefs play next. I'm not sure how much of the offense that DeHoff will know. But hell, if Amari Cooper can go have 4 for 66 in a touchdown, which do you think DeHoff can have? I think they play the Raiders. Oh. I think they got the Raiders. And I'm going to go out on a limb and say it. think DeHoffen had? I think they played the Raiders. Oh. I think they got the Raiders.

And I'm going to go out on a limb and say it. If DeHoffen have 100 plus yards, don't be surprised. Don't be surprised if they got 100. Don't be surprised if you have 100. Yeah. I definitely think they, yeah, they have, okay, I said, yeah, they played the Raiders. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's, i like that pickup i mean they were wasting this time there look i understand guys getting paid um

but you all have to know now you're gonna get paid but them catches and when the catches don't come they're gonna say you lost a step they don't care why they're going to say you lost a step. They don't care why. They're not looking at, okay, man, he ain't getting the ball. He's not getting the ball in a position that he can run and do something winning. He had to catch the ball, fall down. So something, if they hit him on the move, he could have got 20 yards. All of a sudden, now only getting 10. People are not looking at that.

No, not at all. They don't. They don't. And they always use it against you. I saw someone, I know it's early, it's early, he just got paid. I saw someone say, Devontae Smith, oh, he doesn't care about his catches. He's a team

player. You know? I said, alright, give it two, three years. Give it two, three years. You know? And the production is not up to want up up to the standards of the contract what the first thing you think i'll say you're not the same yeah sure you lost a step it don't be nothing wrong with nobody that's why i don't like when players do

that i don't like when players sit there and just wait and wait and wait until they decide to get you the ball sometimes you know you got to knock on, you know, you got to knock on the door. But if you don't knock on the door, it ain't going to never open. I agree. But you better speak up. And another thing, I'm going to just break the news now. At some point, Cuba Cup will be a Tampa Bay Buccaneer. You think so?

At some point. I'm not sure when it will happen, but a little birdie told me. It better happen on or before November 5th. Okay. All right. Just know I said it here first. I mean, he almost, before the Chiefs traded for D-Hawk, the team was in discussion with the Rams about acquiring Cooper Cup. However, the trade talks failed because of Cup's salary.

They wanted the Rams to take some of that salary. The Chiefs were also looking for a team that could still pay a big part of the salary, whichever receiver they traded for. And they didn't want to give up a high draft pick. The Rams weren't willing to do this, but the Titans were with Hopkins. I like it. Oh, yeah. I like it.

I like it a lot. I'm telling you, he's going to flourish he's going to flourish for the time being for this year and again I won't be surprised if he hit the ground running and starting this Raider game oh yeah

I'm trying to think is Juju hurt? yeah this is a really good pick because now, I mean, you think about it, all they got is Worthy. They got Justin Watson, Noah Gray. They got Trav. And, yeah, they really need to de-hop.

Yeah. They really need to de hot because you're already down Rice, you're down Hollywood. Rasheed Rice, down Hollywood. So your three of your top receivers down. And it's funny, you're down all, you have

all these injuries and because of the quarterback play and his decision making in the most opportune, most important times is why you're 5-0 or maybe 6-0. Yeah. That's crazy. Well, and the defense too. Oh, defense will play it unbelievable.

Yeah. Oh. Guys, it's really late here on the East Coast. Ocho has a flight to catch in four hours. I want to give Jerry Jones' article time. It deserves. Catch us on Thursday Night Football tomorrow. Full thoughts before Ocho and I are going to go in.

So, yeah, we're going to go in on Jerry. As I've been saying, Jerry doesn't really care about winning. Jerry cares about making a dollar. Jerry has a tourist attraction. That's what Jerry World is. $40, $50, $70, $90. So in order to give it the proper discussion that it deserves, we're not going to discuss it tonight.

We're going to discuss it tomorrow when we have Thursday night football and we'll have time to give. We like to give topics the proper time and the proper dedication that they deserve, all the topics. And so we're going to discuss the Jerry article tomorrow. Thank you for joining us. We really, really appreciate you staying up late.

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