Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Jordan Love's payday, Raiders beef with Mahomes, Barkley lashes out

Episode Date: July 29, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to ordan Love and the Green Bay Packers coming to terms on an historic contract extension, the Las Vegas Raiders trying to beef with Patrick Mahomes, ...Charles Barkley's frustration with the future of the NBA on TV and much more!03:02 - Jordan Love New Contract10:47 - Charles Barkley talks about NBA-TNT beef23:28 - UCLA head coach intro intv37:13 - Q and Ayyyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:23 Love's new deal puts him in line with Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, all of whom are earning $55 million per year as the top paid quarterback on an annual basis. Yeah. Rightfully so. Rightfully so. If you watched him last year, if you watched him close, even though he's only in his third year,
Starting point is 00:02:40 if you watched him close enough, he's well-deserving. Oh, yeah. He's well-deserving. Yeah, yeah. His command of the offense, his ability to throw any and every throw regardless of what halves they're on, his ability to extend plays, one of the special traits that some of the top quarterbacks have are being able to make plays off rhythm and make plays off script,
Starting point is 00:03:02 and he can do it all. He can. He can do it all. So he can do it all so this contract is warranted it's good thing they got him now while he has the supporting cast around him that are all really good at some point those receivers i'm not sure who's going to be the first one up somebody will have to get that bag yeah for sure somebody will have to get that bag um those those receivers are the real deal i'm not saying but he reminds you he makes a lot of throws and his mannerisms are a lot like aaron rogers and rogers if you watch him throw out
Starting point is 00:03:33 that back and you watch that release listen flick of the flick of the wrist i'm not saying the guy's gonna win for mvps and he's gonna be yada, yada. Because you're talking about Aaron Rodgers. You're talking about one of the transcendent players in the NFL. Yes, sir. The guy can make every throw, his ability to throw in the pocket, out of the pocket, change arm angles, the platforms in which he can disperse a football, it's second to none. But if you watch Jordan Love last year, Green Bay knew they had their guy.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Now, they didn't know he was going to be like this, but after going through the season and watching him in the playoffs, yeah, we got our guy. It was a no-brainer. It was a no-brainer. Think about it, Ocho. They're going to be in a situation
Starting point is 00:04:23 from 92 into probably 32. They're going to be in a situation from 92 into probably 32. They're going to have three quarterbacks. Their quarterback situation is going to be like the Steelers' head coach. Chuck Norris took over in 1969, and then he went from 69 to 92. Bill Kyle went from 92 until he, what, 2007, and then now Mike Tomlin took over. I don't think people understand how difficult that is it's a quarterback driven league and always has been so the hard part that's always hard to find is a quarterback that you can lock in for the next 10 years
Starting point is 00:04:57 and you can build around them it's very difficult and for the fact that the packers have had three back to back to back and far Rogers and now Jordan love is, I'm not going to say it's unheard of. It is unheard of. It's very difficult to do. It's unheard of. Yeah. Go back into history,
Starting point is 00:05:12 go back and look at any situation and try to find a succession of quarterback. Because even if you say Montana and young, when young took over, he was done by 98 concussions had forced him out, so he already had five years. And then, you know, they went to Jeff Garcia, and then
Starting point is 00:05:31 they went to a lot of... No, they went to Elvis Gerbach first. They went to Gerbach, then Garcia, and then they had a lot of other guys down the line. But we haven't seen anything like what Green Bay has been able to trot out. Not like that. MVPs back to back yes
Starting point is 00:05:48 Super Bowl champions go ahead what did you say Ocho Super Bowl champions so you know from 92 I can see a situation where this kid is the quarterback until 32 maybe beyond but I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:06:04 it's about 40 years oh joe yeah and you got three quarterbacks yeah think about how many quarterbacks miami has had since marino oh yeah yeah i mean i mean i do you think they have the one and two because they just paid two or two just got just got his deal i think what deal. I think it was four for 212, I think, or maybe five for 212. But that's the thing, though, Joe. Like, when you're dealing with that guy, what are your choices? Go back into the draft and hope
Starting point is 00:06:33 and try to find one better that's more doable, have a stronger arm, that's taller? Right, right, right, right. I think for Tua, I think for Tua, what's important for him, and I consider what he's able to do in the Dolphins offense, I think it's perfect for him. Having Mike McDaniel, having Waddle, now having OBJ, having Cheetah. All you're having to do is facilitate the ball, hand the ball off.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Yeah. I'm not saying a job is easy, but the supporting cast he has around him, he doesn't have to do much because everyone else around him is so good. Everyone around him is so good. A similar situation to that, I can attest to Brock Purdy as well. Brock Purdy is good. What they ask of him to do is, but again, supporting cast. You got Iyuk, you got got debo you had the best left tackle tackling the game you got christian mccaffrey in the backfield you got kiddo right what you have to do just facilitate don't turn the ball over and every time if you can do that and not make
Starting point is 00:07:35 mistakes you'll be in contention year in and year out you're right uh the raiders thought it was a good idea to make fun of patrick mahone Let's take a listen to the sound, Ocho. Ocho. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like it. I like it. It's good for the game
Starting point is 00:08:06 even though it's a the two time two time three two time Super Bowl three time Super Bowl winning champ quarterback it's a division game
Starting point is 00:08:15 two time MVP two time MVP let's have some fun Antonio Pierce is now the new head coach it's a new Raiders team it's a new Raiders team. It's a new era for them.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Now, all you have to do now, you're making fun of the quarterback. Now, now you got to show up. Yeah, for sure. Time to play.
Starting point is 00:08:34 That's all you got to do. And if I'm not mistaken, the Raiders, the Raiders, what they went one in one last year. Yeah. They beat on Christmas. Yep.
Starting point is 00:08:41 They show did. Yep. Show did. But Hey, I like it. Me as a a player from a competitive standpoint you know we we know we we know how how how good they are over there but hey now if you're gonna talk and now you gotta walk it i i ain't starting you got you got to back it up you got to back it up if you notice i ain't i ain't never say nothing about Till Reggie White. I ain't say nothing about
Starting point is 00:09:07 Bruce Smith. I know who the ball is. Yeah, you don't want them problems. Mainly, mainly with the D-Tackles, man. Rest in soul, man. They were in my division, Ocho. Chester McLaughlin, rest in soul.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Chess. I think I played two years with Chet. Joe Chester McLaughlin rest his soul. Yes. I had to play. I had to play at a couple of, uh, I think I played two years with Chet and Cortez. Cortez and I came out together, uh, rest his soul too.
Starting point is 00:09:34 But man, you talk about going back and forth. Yeah, I can imagine me. Cortez, Chester McLaughlin and Sam Adams yeah Big Sam
Starting point is 00:09:47 hey fast first step in the game fast first step off the ball I've stated I've stated to it I played with Sam
Starting point is 00:09:54 in Cincinnati did you yeah Sam we're out there in Cincinnati oh yeah with Marvin yeah
Starting point is 00:10:00 yeah Big Sam what Big Sam was funny man Charles Barkley calls that NBA a TNT beef he released a statement clearly the NBA Yeah, yeah, Big Sam, bro. Big Sam was funny, man. Charles Barkley calls our NBA a TNT beef. He released a statement. Clearly, the NBA has wanted to break up with us from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I'm not sure TNT ever had a chance. TNT matched the money, but the league knows Amazon and these tech companies are the only ones willing to pay for these rights when they double in the future. The NBA didn't want to piss them off. It's a sad day when the owners and commissioners choose money over fans, and it sucks. Well, we know that. Wait.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Barkley knows that at the end of the day. The bottom line has always been the same. When it comes to business, this is a business. Yes! We know that. Now, I'm upset. I'm upset. I'm upset with Chuck. Hell, the TNT show is phenomenal. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:49 It's great. Why? Because everybody can be themselves. It's authentic. It's also teaching why they're allowed to be themselves. Why did you have to match the offer? Why didn't you make an offer? So you don't let Amazon, you don't let them wrap this up.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Oh, we're going to come in at the last minute. No, Ocho. Ocho, the last minute. No, Ocho. Ocho, here it is. Okay, Ocho. I'm going to put my car up. Everybody, you got 24 days to be here. You're going to come in on the 25th day and, oh, okay, I'm going to match that bid.
Starting point is 00:11:22 No. TNT knew. Yeah. And y'all didn't do anything until Amazon came to match that bid. No! TNT knew. Yeah. And y'all didn't do anything until Amazon came in with their bid? No, bro, y'all lost out. Hopefully, ESPN can work out some kind of arrangement, and that'll be their pre- and post-game show. Amazon is going to be in the work.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Amazon got a boatload of money. Yes, sir. I don't know what NBC, what direction they're going to kind in the work. Amazon got a boatload of money. I don't know what NBC, what direction they're going to grow in, but it seems like ESPN and Amazon is looking at the crew as is. Barkley has
Starting point is 00:11:55 he had an out clause. If TNT lost basketball, he can become a free agent unless they guarantee the remaining nine years at two at two 190 million which doesn't make sense to me if they don't have basketball why would you pay someone not enough for nine years 190 million ocho when you don't have what do you what do you have him do you don't have enough sporting events right okay i get you have those that celebrity
Starting point is 00:12:26 golf classic but you're not gonna pay that kind of money for that money for that yeah but they they're so good though together and then i i use i use the the the comparison to martin when it comes to the tnt crew ernie chip i mean ernie kenny shack chuck and chuck is like martin you Ernie, Kenny, Shaq, and Chuck. It's like Martin. There's no way. It's not interchangeable. Martin, Pam, Gina, Cole, and Tommy. You can't replace that.
Starting point is 00:12:54 You can't replace it. It's so well together. They bounce well off each other. The chemistry is perfect. It's not only an informative show about basketball. It's funny. Sure. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:13:05 You can't replace that. You can't replicate that. No matter how you get, you can't interchange that four and think you can get the same show. No, you're not. They gotta find a way to keep it together. They gotta find a way to make it work. Kenny doesn't seem to be wanting to move.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Now, could they possibly shoot it in Atlanta? Because that's where TNT normally shot their show. I don't know where Amazon would shoot their show. Now, you know the football show, Amazon shoots that on location. That's very expensive. I know a lot of you guys don't understand television, Amazon shoots that on location. Right. That's very expensive. I know a lot of you guys don't understand television, but to go on location, 19 times.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Listen to me. Take it from me. That goes on location from time to time, and you got to move crews, and you got to pay for flights, and you got to pay for hotel, and you got gotta give per diem it's very very so you could imagine on the scale of what the tnt crew does i'm just talking about little stuff that you know that you and i do ocho when you know we we going on tour that's a big undertaking when we you know when we went to new to New York, we got to have a crew and we got to have you know, it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Yeah. So, like I said, I don't know and Chuck, Kenny, and Shaq and they're not traveling every week. That's not happening. It's not. Chuck's done got too old.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Ernie done made it abundantly clear he ain't really trying to move like that. Shaq have a lot going on. Shaq ain't really trying to move like that. Where is going to be the central location in which you shoot the show? It's important. The funny thing about it is
Starting point is 00:15:01 Amazon has the rights and they ain't short of no goddamn cash over there. Ocho. They ain't short of no cash over there. I've been trying to tell people this. Is that if you want to be a network, you got to get live events.
Starting point is 00:15:19 You need NFL football. You need that. What do YouTube do? What did Amazon do? Yes, sir. We want a Thursday night package. We'll pay you a billion. We want a
Starting point is 00:15:33 Friday game. We'll give you $110 million just to have the rights to broadcast that. Guess what? They're going to have a Wednesday night game, a Thursday night game, a Friday night game, a Saturday night game. At the end of the day, it comes down to one thing. What are the streaming services doing? A Wednesday night game, a Thursday night game, a Friday night game, a Saturday night game. Yes, sir. At the end of the day, it comes down to one thing.
Starting point is 00:15:49 What are all these streaming services doing? What did Peacock do? Wasn't there a game streamed on Peacock? Wasn't there a playoff game streamed on Peacock, Coach O? Yes, sir. You didn't even know what Fox was. Nobody knew Fox was a network until they got NFL football. They got the NFC package. Nobody knew what Fox was a network until they got NFL football they got the NFC package nobody knew what Fox was
Starting point is 00:16:08 they were a news network yeah they ain't look back think about the think about the networks that had football gave it up thought they could do without it NBC had NFL football gave it up CBS had football gave it up thought they could do without it nbc had nfl football gave it up cbs had football
Starting point is 00:16:27 gave it up abc had it gave it up and they realized one thing they can't live without it you can't and there's nothing else to replicate it there's nothing else to replicate the viewers the eyes it's impossible It's impossible. It's impossible. So, Charles, I'm sorry, bro, but you know how this thing works. I mean, don't make it seem, hold on, don't make it seem like NBA, the NFL,
Starting point is 00:16:59 the MLB are the only ones that care about money. That's how businesses work. They're not nonprofits. Everything's going to go to the highest bidder. Tell me what business is not going to be going to the highest bidder unless you just ticked off at somebody. Now, you read the story, you hear the story that Jerry Jones
Starting point is 00:17:23 didn't have the highest bid for the Cowboys, but the owner, Bum Bright, sold him to because Jerry assured him that he was going to get rid of Tom Landry. Think about what it's going to take to come in and fire Tom Landry. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Bum Bright, like, I don't want nobody to say, I ain't touching nobody. I ain't touching him. No. So, but for the most part, you go to the highs better. Yeah. Normally a job, if the jobs are comparable, Ocho, and one job is going to pay you $200,000. The other job is going to pay you $300,000. The other job is going to pay you $300,000. And you're in the same city.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Yeah. Who's going to like me? You know what? No, that's how it works. It's so funny. Listen, and that comes with life as well. So that's a life lesson. Not only business, when it comes to women choosing a partner,
Starting point is 00:18:23 correct me if I'm wrong, who are they picking? Ocho. Correct me if I'm wrong, when it comes to women picking a partner, when you have a choice, you got 10 people talking to you, who are you picking? Come on now. My grandfather used to say, boy, it's just as easy for a woman to love a rich man as it is a poor one.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Come on now. Hey, if I got to love all the pain, if I got to give you a back massage when you come in here and cook your meals. You make a hundred thousand. He made two million. Yeah. And you're comparable personality. You make me laugh. You got a sense of humor
Starting point is 00:19:05 oh you great with kick come on now man y'all better stop playing it's life it's life Rich Paul and Adele are officially engaged hey
Starting point is 00:19:28 congrats alright Rich congratulations Adele congratulations you're amazing thank you hello for my daughter and signing the program
Starting point is 00:19:43 I really really appreciate that it's great. Rich, you already had this conversation. Ain't no plus. It's one. Hey, it's two. Matter of fact,
Starting point is 00:19:56 let me perform. Let me perform. You perform what? Huh? What you gonna perform? Now you know I can sing. Don't do that. Don't perform? Now you know I can sing. Don't do that. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:20:06 You know I can sing. I perform at weddings. I perform at bar mitzvahs. I performed before. Don't do that. Now you know I can sing. Oh, Lord have mercy. You don't think so?
Starting point is 00:20:19 No. Mm-mm. Ocho, think about this. You don't think so? Think about this think about this Adele is getting married how many people can go perform at her wedding think about it
Starting point is 00:20:32 outside of me think about it I'm with you when you're right that's one thing about it well hopefully she keeps you outside you said outside of you hopefully you stay outside when the scene is going. Hey,
Starting point is 00:20:47 I'm telling you, I'd be the perfect man. Listen, man, boy, you put me on that stage. Oh, Lord. I won't embarrass nobody. Hello. Goodbye. They go. They gonna wrap that. Man, going to wrap that.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Man, they're going to wrap that so quick. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment,
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Starting point is 00:23:14 listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, Joe, check this out ucla uh head coach deshaun foster had an awkward start to the big 10 conference on media day let's take a listen yeah how you guys doing i'm happy to be here glad to be a part of this great conference. Finally putting two great emblems together, UCLA and the Big Ten. We're a school that's won, what, 123 championships, so this fits us being right in this conference. Football-wise, we're just excited.
Starting point is 00:24:06 You know, I'm sure you guys don't know too much about UCLA, but our football program, but we're in L.A. It's us and USC. USC. I'm just basically excited, really. That's it. Any questions? Yeah, he's not a speaker. He's not comfortable in front of the mic. he's not comfortable in front of the mic he's not
Starting point is 00:24:45 comfortable in front of talking to media obviously it's something that you should probably get training especially when you you in a position of power like that being the face of an entity like ucla and being their head coach you have to be very very well spoken and being able to talk like i i like that I like being in front of camera I would like not to be in his shoes being a head coach but I'm really well at fielding questions I'm really
Starting point is 00:25:14 well at getting a point across based on something that I'm representing or coaching and being a leader of men he was just very uncomfortable in that situation that's all you can tell it's something he hasn't worked on or trained to do. Yes. Everybody can talk.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Yes. If you can speak. There's a difference between the two. And I don't think people understand that nearly enough. Right. That's a gift. Yes. Now. You got talkers you got speakers and you got orators right you talk about a dr king or you talk about a churchill or you talk about a jfk
Starting point is 00:25:57 you talk about uh you talk about someone that could command the masses. Obama. Yes. When it's time for him to speak. Yes. Yes. Crazy work. And then you get people that can speak, that can stand in front of a team, a Ray Lewis, a Tom Brady, a LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:26:21 That's a gift. Yeah. And very few can do it it's difficult I don't think people understand how difficult it is so Deshaun Foster
Starting point is 00:26:32 being in that being in that position like that I can tell for one nervous Prime yeah he didn't know what to say Prime Prime oh my goodness
Starting point is 00:26:39 Prime is really good at that yes I bet Deshaun Foster he was he was brief he was briefed. He was told what to talk about. And he probably went over it a hundred times in his head.
Starting point is 00:26:50 A hundred times. But when the lights are shining and those cameras are in front of you and you're at that podium and it's just you, it's in one ear and out the other. Yeah. Half of the time,
Starting point is 00:27:00 you don't remember nothing. I didn't even know. It's a gift to be able to do that. I didn't even know UCLA was in LA. I wonder what that LA was for at the end. University of California. Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Yeah, he going to be all right, though. He going to be all right. He going to be all right. He going to be all right. Get to a bowl game. Get to the Rose Bowl. Get to a. They going to forget that. Forget all going to be alright. You're nervous. Get to a bowl game. Get to the Rose Bowl. Get to a They're going to forget that.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Forget all about that. Don't forget all about that. You remember what's the coach for the Eagles? What's the head coach of the Eagles? Right now, Sirianni?
Starting point is 00:27:34 Yeah, Rick Dixon. Remember how he came out there with a green track suit on? Fumbling. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Get to the Super Bowl. Win the bet.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Yeah. People forget all about that. Yeah. There are very few coaches that are good at that. Mike Tomlin is good at it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Mike Tomlin is really good.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Really good in front of the camera. Mike Tomlin is a great speaker. Yeah, great speaker. Yeah. Great. You know, most other coaches, they're just short, right to the point. I think Belichick, Belichick ain't give you nothing. You're like, Bill ain't give you nothing bill ain't give you nothing oh mike you know who's good mike mcdaniel yeah mike mcdaniel's good he's he's he's on he's more of a uh a comedic coach yes he's funny
Starting point is 00:28:18 yeah it's it's uh yeah it's tough oh I said, I think he was just a bit nervous. You look out there, you see all them people, cameras going off. They're there to hear what you have to say. Everybody's going to remember your first press conference, your first introduction. And yeah, it's not easy. But for us, Ocho, our grandfather made us speak, obviously, like most kids, especially in the black family.
Starting point is 00:28:49 And I don't know if everywhere I can just speak to the South because that's where I grew up. Right. Everybody had an Easter speech. And if you could, like, sing a song, you could say an Easter speech. And I ain't just talking about no happy Easter. You know, no happy Easter. Barney Porter wasn't playing that. And when my grandfather played, my grandmother wasn't playing no, no. Oh, happy Easter feed. And I ain't just talking about no happy Easter. You know, no happy Easter. Barney Porter wasn't playing that. And when my grandfather, my grandmother wasn't playing
Starting point is 00:29:07 no, no. Oh, happy Easter day. I'm just here to say happy Easter day. Man, I wish you would. And then he come up, hey, one of you, hey, y'all gonna lead devotional service today. So now, hey, you gotta read from the hymn book.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Hymn 392. We asked someone for a suitable tune. Amazing Grace, How Sweet the Sound. We got to do that. Okay. Yeah. One of y'all going to pray today. So we, hey, we seven, eight, nine years old.
Starting point is 00:29:37 We got to go and pray in front of people. You know, Shayjohn, you know, I got to go. Maybe last time, Ocho, I got to know. Maybe last time, Ocho. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. You know, I don't, for me, obviously, again, just like you, it started in the church. Me being comfortable speaking in front of crowds, having to read certain verses, certain chapters in the Bible, doing it at a young age.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And then, obviously, when you talk about football, I got very sad. I was very media savvy very early. Yeah. Being comfortable talking in front of camera. Then you see me play, right? You see me play. You see the fun, the personality,
Starting point is 00:30:17 but then you hear me talking in a setting. Hell, you put me in a political setting. I get up there and talk like I'm running for office. And you have no idea. This can't be the same person where I'm able to adapt to the environment that I'm in. You have to. It's weird. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Got to read the room, Mojo. Yeah. It's not something I've trained myself to do, but I can just hit a switch and do it. Yeah. And I'm very, I'm very comfortable in front of crowds. Very comfortable, especially in front of the mic. Yeah. And the thing is like church, you're you're like, like, the people.
Starting point is 00:30:46 But, you know, you got your cousins in there. They go. They playing around, laughing at you. Come on, man. Hey. So you can't make no eye contact. I ain't making no eye contact with my brother, my cousin. I ain't doing nothing.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Because they're going to start laughing and doing all kinds of crazy stuff. And you mess up. And granny going to cut your tail when you get home. Because you're bull jiving. And then when you was in school, I'm like why that kid got one word and I got to remember the Gettysburg Address. I got to remember
Starting point is 00:31:13 Dr. King, I got a dream. He got two words. Well, Shannon, I know you can do it. I know I can do it too, but I don't want to go home and study every night to try to remember these four paragraphs. Oh. I had some good days good day i mean bad but you know at the south hey you didn't play around the church all that playing the church and that stuff carried on oh no oh no nobody playing playing church would never tolerate that yeah all right no place man hey
Starting point is 00:31:48 wherever you show up you get whoa out hey that mouth oh on cue yes oh and the grocery store but she already told me and my brother y'all ain't gonna get nothing and you know we we got to push the buggy that was the thing on show she you know she tell us to get that or get something man you must ready hit the back of my grandma's heel with that buggy. Boy, boy, it's very important to start gritting them teeth and turn around
Starting point is 00:32:14 and give you that look. I ain't even touching the buggy. I don't even want to push the buggy no more, Spanky. Yeah. Hell no. That was some good days. That deal with the days, Ocho. Bad.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Good days, man. Hey, listen, my grandma used to prep me, man. Betsy made flowers. She would prep me before we even go in the store. We had a store called Zare's. Y'all had Zare's where you from? The jewelry store? I don't know how many.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Listen, huh? What was it? Zare's is like a JCPenney's, but it's way back in the day. It's just in the 80s. No, we had it. On 54th Street. Now, we back in the day it's just in the 80s on 54th street now we put we put in the parking lot at Zares
Starting point is 00:32:48 and I'm hype and she gave me that talk before we before we even get out this car I'm gonna tell you right now the answer's no don't ask me for nothing and don't start begging
Starting point is 00:32:57 I'm coming here to get I'm coming here to get a few items and we leaving yeah and we be in that bitch about damn near hour mm-mm going up each hour going up
Starting point is 00:33:06 each hour she know she walks slow now we ain't gonna be in there long cause my girl ain't got but $25 you ain't gonna be in there you ain't gonna be in there long on y'all you get you get three loaves of bread for a dollar you will get a gallon of milk you get some donut you'll get that 50 pack of the pink hot dog with the sleeve but you ain't you ain't finna be at no grocery store we go about two hours i ain't know the grocery store had like 10 hours because we wasn't going number two you go up you go to the meat section get the chicken yeah two chickens that were home that needed to be cut up you ain't get no chicken okay you got all drumstick, all breath, short five.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Nah, my granny cutting the chickens up. You get two of those. Hey boy, go get some. cause you know, back then my grandma ain't never called me by my name. I ain't even know my name.
Starting point is 00:33:55 We're waiting on my grandma to tell you my name. I would have never known. Hey boy, son. Hey boy, go get some, go get three loaves of bread. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Right. Right. The bread cost a dollar. Ooh, yes. Three loaves of bread. Hey, boy, go get three loaves of bread. Right, right, right. Because back then, three loaves of bread cost a dollar. Woo! Yes! Three loaves of bread. Hey. And then we called it lightning bread.
Starting point is 00:34:12 So I didn't know, Ocho, I did not know until I got to the NFL that it was called white bread. Right. We called it lightning bread. Light bread, right. Ocho, I go to the store, I was like, excuse me, where is your lightning bread? The lady oh so i called the store i was like oh excuse me where's your lightning bread the lady looking at me like i'm a damn fool i'm looking at her like she a damn fool right i said lightning i was like do you not understand i said lightning bread sir we don't we don't sell that i said ma'am you mean to tell me you don't have light bread
Starting point is 00:34:42 the lady looking at me saying sir, sir, I'm sorry. I don't understand what you're asking for. I'm like, lightning bread that you make sandwiches with. She said, you mean white bread? I said, yeah, if you call it that, yeah. So I got mad, Ocho. I bought that damn food. I just get the devil, and I'm about to show up.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I didn't know that's what they call it. Because we never called it that. We called it lightning bread. Hey boy. Hey, bring some, Hey, bring light bread back son.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Okay. Hey, they, they had, they had wonder bread. Yeah. Yeah. Wonder bread.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Captain John Durst. Sunbeam was the bread that we got. Right. Hey, that wonder bread was already soft and kind of buttery for a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. I used to make them put peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Right. That Wonder Bread was already soft and kind of buttery for a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. I used to make them peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Yeah. And sometimes I get I think it's a sun
Starting point is 00:35:31 sun something. Raisin bread. It come in a red pack. It come in a red package. Yeah, sun bean. No. Is it sun bean? Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you're talking about. Raisin bread. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is that called? Yeah. Oh, man. I know exactly what you're talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you're talking about. Raisin bread. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is that called? Yeah, oh, man. I know exactly what you're talking about, Ocho. Man,
Starting point is 00:35:47 I make my sausage, egg, and cheese sandwich on that raisin bread, lightly toasted. Man, stop playing. Ocho, they done got, nah, they done took the fun out of it. You know, Ocho, I just found out they got jelly that you squeeze now, that you don't dip, that you don't
Starting point is 00:36:03 take the knife and spread the bread wait nah you ain't supposed to use no jelly you're supposed to use jam huh man jelly jelly jelly get too messy that jam spread real that jam man look here that smuckers jam strawberry no great well we didn't
Starting point is 00:36:20 get no great we got apple we had apple jelly I ain't really know nobody. Apple's a good one now. Apple's a good one. I'm not even going to front. Apple's a good one. Sun made. That's the name of the bread you're talking about. Sun made.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Sun made. That's what it is. Sun made, yeah. My cousin and them got that good bread. They got that Captain John's Dirt that was in that brown bag. It's in a brown loaf. Captain John's Dirt. It's like buttery. It's buttery.
Starting point is 00:36:51 You didn't get no three loaves of that. We got that three loaves of bread for a dollar. That's what we got. And I eat. Everybody waited till the last. That first and the last, the end. Ain't nobody messing with the ends. No, nobody want the ends. Hey, push come to shove. I bet you eat it.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Oh, yeah. You ain't got no choice. You ain't got no choice. Yeah, you ain't got no choice. Ocho, time for our, actually, this is our first segment of the day, and it's time for Q&A.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Q&A. Ask what you want. I ain't gonna tell you no lie. Damn, graphics on vacation? Damn. Okay, I'm sorry, guys. We ain't got no graphics tonight. Tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Hey, guys. Laney Ray said, hey, guys, I learned some trivia. I learned some Olympic trivia. Which sport is the fastest over any other summer Olympic sport? Think about it. Fastest hit, serve, race.
Starting point is 00:37:52 What do you think it is? When she says fastest, what does she mean? To what extent? The fastest Olympic sport? The fastest? Wouldn't it have to be Bob? Wait, Bob Slatton is not an Olympic sport.
Starting point is 00:38:08 That's winner. Okay, Olympic? Well, I mean, I guess you're talking about I guess it'd be a serve, but that's not... I'm trying to... Tennis is an Olympic sport, ain't it? Yeah, for sure. I'm trying to think. I mean, the arrow, I guess if you
Starting point is 00:38:25 archery, that arrow is flying faster than a serve. A bullet is flying. Hell yeah! I don't know. Now we got some serves that are serving 100, 130, 120 miles an hour now. Well, who has the record? I think Andy
Starting point is 00:38:40 Roddick had the record at 155. I mean, they had some guys that could serve it. Kurlovich, John Isner, Goran Ivanovic. I'm talking about big, big servers. I'm talking about 135, 140.
Starting point is 00:38:57 I think Skinner is up there. Ian Skinner? Yeah. But I think Andy Roddick. Has anyone gone past 155? Dr. Evo, Elo, uh, Korlovich. I know he had a, uh, did they count that?
Starting point is 00:39:16 Yeah. Oh, okay. So, uh, Isner. So, they served 157 163 yeah that's a good question I don't know the answer to
Starting point is 00:39:32 badminton is the record 306 now you a back in the day you bought badminton king over the clothesline oh we get that yeah we string that thing up get them more rackets from western auto I know somebody here know about Western Alto if you from the South. Yeah, I ain't played too much bad.
Starting point is 00:39:52 What do they call it, shuttlecock? The only thing I can think about. That's what the little thing that you hit is called a shuttlecock. Have you ever played teddy ball? What is that? Teddy ball with the yellow ball is on the pole. Yeah. And you hit it
Starting point is 00:40:08 and then somebody on the other side, they hit it back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Teddy Ball. Man, look who this is, man. She calling. They in Turks.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Hello? Baby. I mean, the fact, the show is going on and the fact that you FaceTimed me let me know you're not watching so where's the support because there's no service
Starting point is 00:40:31 oh there's no service if there's no service how you calling me right now well we back home but where we were at why you slurring you drunk what is y'all okay I got come on I have to finish the show we doing Q&A You drunk? Okay. I got it.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Come on. I have to finish the show. We're doing Q&A. Oh, now you got Don Julio again. Here she goes to Don Julio again. Uh-oh. Rahel! All right, all right.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Come on. I'm being rude now. I'm being rude now I'm being rude alright alright why is she slurring like that man she really drunk yeah probably I think
Starting point is 00:41:16 hey they need I'll tell you what the sport they need to add what if them diamonds hit your system who be ready to quick it I got too much years I've been training for this a long time hey man as a matter of fact
Starting point is 00:41:33 if they have an Olympic sport where diamonds are involved I don't even think training would be required that is something that we just naturally I'm a child undefeated but you never know now I don't there's a lot of competition out there
Starting point is 00:41:49 they ain't standing like me Ocho right I don't put nothing in my system right well you already told us about one that made you tap out now remember I know the chat that's why I'm going to get that spot of vitamins so I can spin the block on him.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Yeah. I know that it worked because I told you the first time I had it, Ocho, I had one. New one. Well, I put that on Ocho.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Yeah. All I needed was some yellow tape. It was a crime scene. Had a small... Like roadkill. Yeah, man. Had a chumped up and everything, Ocho. Bad, bad change.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Oh, my God. But they were slim back then. You know, I had stumbled on one. Next time I went over to Ocho, it wasn't the same way. It wasn't the same. Nah, but you know, round three, she told me, she said, hey. I said, you don't know what your son, you know, you let your boy come back over there? Right, right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:42:56 She said, bring that dick you had the first time. Okay. I swear, people, y'all saying I'm lying. I swear she told me that, Ocho. She said, bring that one you had the first time. I don't know what they want me to do, Ocho. I gave you what I had, baby.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Yeah. Hey. Hey, boy, you shut up. You shut up you shut up I tell you my story my stories
Starting point is 00:43:32 man are more on the embarrassing side man I told you you know I just
Starting point is 00:43:38 it's it's hurtful I ain't got no good stories like that man I told you man you know
Starting point is 00:43:43 my shortcomings in life so just just one of the worst things fellas in I ain't got no good stories like that, man. I told you mine, you know, my shortcomings in life. So just one of the worst things, fellas in the chat and women, you can probably attest to this. And, you know, you know, just hearing, you know, Chad, I want you all to stay with me now. Just hearing a woman, my mental health is important to me. And back then I didn't understand it. It's having intercourse with someone that you have feelings about and
Starting point is 00:44:09 that you love and hearing her say, go deeper. Stay with me, y'all. Go deeper. And mind you, as she continues to whisper this in my ear, I'm already all the way in. So then, you know, subconsciously, you know, mentally, I'm gone.
Starting point is 00:44:29 My ego, I'm hurt. And that's something I don't wish on no man. She already knew Ocho. She knows you are a shore fisherman. You ain't no deep sea fisherman. You ain't got that kind of meat on you. Yeah, yeah. She know that.
Starting point is 00:44:44 You ain't got that kind of line. I don't come with Scooby-Goo. You don't got that kind of meat on you. Yeah, yeah. You ain't got that kind of line. I don't come with scuba gear. You don't. Ocho. I don't come with scuba gear. I told her. I ain't really been the same since then. Yeah, you fished.
Starting point is 00:44:54 This was way back in 87. You fished with a cane pole. You got to have a rod and reel to spin it on. You ain't got that on you. I'll tell you. I'll tell you no lie. I lied for you before I lied to you but I never forget that to this day
Starting point is 00:45:09 I don't know what she is but see here's the thing though Ocho because you 155 you couldn't put no weight on her and you're like you hip your chest see that's why after that and you're like, you hit. The fuck's gonna hurt? Your chest? Something?
Starting point is 00:45:28 See, that's why after that, that's why after that I started doing everything at a faster rate because if you're small and you move fast, you can do damage. Man, you ain't doing no damage.
Starting point is 00:45:44 They never know. Well, I guess a thousand paper cuts do hurt. Man, you ain't do no damage. They never know. Well, I guess a thousand paper cuts do hurt. There you go. There you go. There you go. Listen, anything at 90 miles an hour, you're going to feel the pressure. If you're driving a car and you're driving 90 miles an hour
Starting point is 00:46:00 and you hit the wall, you're going to feel something. Nah. You got an 18-wheeler. You got an 18-wheeler. You got an 18-wheeler, you ain't got to go fast. You know what I'm saying? I come through at 20 miles an hour just running over everything. Uh.
Starting point is 00:46:16 You know, we all ain't blessed, man. Hey. You get on that Red Bull and one of the diamonds yeah like a trucker all night yes sir
Starting point is 00:46:31 yeah I wish I could I had a testimony but that right there that ain't in my ministry you took something I took my time that's what I took that's? I took my time. That's what I took.
Starting point is 00:46:49 That's what I took. I took my time. Don't be mad. Oh, you took something. I know. You ain't supposed to be able to go this long. You ain't supposed to. Whoa. Why are you trying to put something on my prowess and what I'm supposed to do that. Whoa! Why you trying to
Starting point is 00:47:06 put something on my prowess and what I'm able to do? Girl, please! I know you took something. I just took my time. Hey, oh man, there's some days, man.
Starting point is 00:47:21 You know, that built it made me who I am today. That made me the man I am today. It built character, you know. Character, you know. And I can deal with things like mentally my mindset is like sandpaper.
Starting point is 00:47:37 That's why I'm able to withstand so many things and everything and nothing bothers me. Nothing bothers you? Yeah, nothing bothers me. You you know after dealing with something like that like that is an ego bruiser women always women always gonna do that
Starting point is 00:47:53 look at a woman get mad at you that's why you're done with your little self hold up did you lay down did we do it yes sir I don't care if it was one hour or one second. Did the act happen? Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:48:09 I got mine. Yeah. Well, I ain't enjoy it. I don't know what to tell you. You can't take it back. This ain't no clothing. You can't take this back to JCPenney. You got to wear this.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Okay. Uh-huh. Yeah, they be trying to make you feel bad. Y'all can't make me feel bad. I feel good. Especially with the time. That's what you want. Your two minute, your three minute. uh-huh yeah they be trying to make you feel bad y'all can't make me feel bad i feel especially with especially with the time uh that's what you you won't yo you're two minute you're three minute you think three minutes ain't long get your ass in the boxing ring and let somebody try to knock
Starting point is 00:48:34 your head off for three minutes and tell me how long that is let me ask you a question and see and see what i do you're better go to any amusement park how long them rides last they ain't lasting no 10 minutes. At all. 60 to 90 seconds. Give you the thrill of your life. And you mad at me because I gave you four. You don't gotta leave me alone. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Hey, that's all I got for you Dr. Frank L. Bellamy what are some of the new what are some new or different games you guys would love to see at the Olympics well they brought skateboarding if I'm not mistaken that was last Olympics they got break dancing in this Olympic
Starting point is 00:49:22 I guarantee you in the next eight years, cornhole will be an Olympic event. That'd be a good one. Cornhole would be a very, very, because cornhole is big. Cornhole is big. That'd be a great Olympic event.
Starting point is 00:49:39 What else you want to see, Ocho? Another event I'd like to see at the Olympics? Twerking. You know what? Nah, nah, nah. What about roller skating? Roller skating. Like freestyle, freestyle roller skating.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Like the old, like roll bounce? Yeah, like roll bounce. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I like that. To me, that's just... I like watching roller skates. What about you, Tufey? What about darts?
Starting point is 00:50:12 Darts in the Olympics? I like darts. Yeah, darts is good. Darts is dope. Pool? I mean, people shoot pool all over the world. People play billiards. Yeah, axe throwing is another one. Bowling? Bowling?
Starting point is 00:50:27 Bowling is interesting. You know what they need to bring? What? Spades. They ain't ready for that. They ain't ready for that. Cause we gonna need we need grandmas, uncles, and aunties. Cause ain't
Starting point is 00:50:42 nobody gonna be able to compete with the US when they come to Spades. You know what they need to roll? Dice. I'm talking about hood dice. I ain't talking about no table. Yeah. Your boy got this thing. Cee-lo. Cee-lo. Two dice or three? I want two dice. Born in 54.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Died in 63. What's my point, Ocho? Man, Tenshin got him again, huh? 54 days in the counter. Four five with the hammer car. Man, they're really all bad. The dice. Spades or dice,
Starting point is 00:51:19 they can't be no Olympic sport. The people ain't ready for that. You know what's going to be an Olympic sport in the next, with inside the next 12 years. Yeah. Pickleball. Oh yeah, pickleball is growing tremendously.
Starting point is 00:51:34 It's growing immensely, especially here in the States. Growing immensely. And y'all better not be using my phrase too. Born in 54, died in 63. Nine, my point. What you want to bet? What we betting?
Starting point is 00:51:51 Six and eight? I got all six and eight. You got all craps. Run it! Who got the fame? Hell no. What you call it all the night? I'm a roller, but I'm a roller, but I'm going to sit all you on, bro.
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Starting point is 00:54:52 I mean, I guess FIBA is kind of like the World, you know, the Olympics is like the World Cup. The FIBA is the World Cup. Basically, because World Cup is every four years and so is the Olympics. So it's about that. It just so happens that off years do not coincide with the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Right. Queen of Topics TV says Ocho got 100 kids. I don't believe he has a chicken nugget. Ocho got 100 kids. I don't believe he has a chicken nugget. Dang, Ocho. Yeah, I mean, if she was small she would
Starting point is 00:55:26 understand before they understand what i have you hurry up and get him pregnant right away then it's too goddamn late so you got it stuck huh bingo you got to trap him you got to trap him early you got to trap him early that's how i caught real i caught real quick you know you make them wait make them wait wake them make wait. You know, you find out when they, when their time, they ovulating, boom, get it out the way,
Starting point is 00:55:50 get it quick. Before they realize, it's like it's too late. They done fell in love with me personality. They stuck with you now, Ocho. Yeah, they done fell in love
Starting point is 00:55:56 with me personality. But oh my goodness, I mean, you know, he good looking, you know, good looking dude. I ain't ugly by no means. You know, skip one to 10. I'm about a six and a half.
Starting point is 00:56:06 I'm a seven with a haircut. So by that time, it's too late. Huh? Yeah, I'm on point right now. That's what the old people used to say. They weren't, you know, old people. My grandma wouldn't say ugly.
Starting point is 00:56:21 She never called somebody ugly. That boy show hard on the eyes, ain't he? That's the same thing! What you mean he hard on the eyes? That's the same thing, Granny. You said he ugly. He sure ain't easy to look at. Man, I'm going to...
Starting point is 00:56:44 Hell no. Hey, that's a good one. Roy Williams donated $100 and said, man of a hell no hey that's a good one Roy Williams donated $100 and said what's up 85 let's talk about the life today that's Roy the cowboys yeah that's Roy
Starting point is 00:56:58 Roy what's up what his comment said Roy, what's up, boy? What his comment said? He said, what's up, Ocho? Let's talk about them Langston days. What's up? Hey, see, I told you. I went to school.
Starting point is 00:57:18 I went to school at Langston with Roy's sister. And, hey, Roy, was it Tamika Freeman? Tanya, Tanya. I think it might have been Tanya. I remember her first and last name. Goddamn Tanya Freeman, boy. God, them some good days. I wonder where all them folks from Chicago at, man.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Them some good days. Oh, Langston University. Carlos Hernandez says, I was just watching a compilation of Dion and Ocho talking smack. Who would really have an advantage in their prime? Well, I got the greatest feet of all time. Dion is the greatest DB of all time. But in my prime,
Starting point is 00:57:55 prime wouldn't have been able to shine. Because there's nothing to get through with these feet. There's one thing about these feet. Huh? Man, you better leave prime low. Prime can't cover me with 10 toes. He can't cover me with eight. Man, you better leave Prime alone. Prime can't cover me with 10 toes. He can't cover me with eight. Man, please.
Starting point is 00:58:10 That's my dude, man. I love Prime, man. Okay, Faye said, Hi, Ocho and Ong. I wanted to ask if we could take a moment and honor Jacoby Jones before he was number 12. He was our number two at lane. He was a black joy personified and a wonderful man. I miss seeing him hop with the cues.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Sending love tonight. R.I.P. Jacoby. Yeah, man. That was sad. I didn't play with him. Yeah, I played against Jacoby. Man, he was electric.
Starting point is 00:58:38 But CBS was covering the Super Bowl that night in New Orleans in which he ran the kickoff back 108 yards, and he had that touchdown where he caught it, got up, and, you know, yeah, it's sad to hear. I mean, far too many times, Ochoa players, they die far too young, man. What was he, 40, 42? I'm not even sure how old Jacoby was, man,
Starting point is 00:59:03 but that's unfortunate a huge personality huge personality man funny man the life of if he was at a party or if he was at a function I guarantee you he was the life of the party oh yeah for sure
Starting point is 00:59:18 for sure Joseph Will Joseph and Crystal here in Georgia my wife Crystal's birthday is tomorrow and we're huge fans can we get a birthday shout out thank you and can't wait to see you in Atlanta Joseph I really appreciate you
Starting point is 00:59:36 and Crystal watching being fans we can't wait to see you once we come to Atlanta Crystal happy early birthday and many more to come you guys go celebrate do something special but hey August 22nd
Starting point is 00:59:52 Ocho and I gonna turn the lights out the building yes sir happy birthday happy birthday hold on happy birthday to you I ain't even gonna charge you for this happy birthday to you i ain't gonna charge you for this happy birthday you're gonna charge you to you happy birthday okay okay that's enough that's enough i just give you a little something you know just give you a little something let you know i can sing because i was on america you know i was
Starting point is 01:00:20 on america uh america uh got, you were? What's your talent? I'm singing. Oh. Yeah, Simon. You know Simon got on me. You should have went to the Masked Singer. Oh, I should do that. How'd I get on there? Called Doug.
Starting point is 01:00:40 I got to call Terry Crews, man. Or Nick Cannon. He AGT. Nick Cannon is the man singer. Okay, I got to holler at Nick because Nick going to let me because me and Nick we got the same amount of kids, so I know he
Starting point is 01:00:55 going to give your brother a chance. Sheldon Pope, how was the Mile High Salute created? Did you ever do the celebration once you scored? Once you score, can, uh, can you give up team USA mile high salute?
Starting point is 01:01:09 That was the running backs. That was, uh, TD, TD, Derek Lavelle, Von Hebron. And,
Starting point is 01:01:18 uh, what's the fullback name? Howard Griffin. That was their thing. They call themselves no limit. So, and just one day that was at practice and they started and, uh, name, Howard Griffin. That was their thing. They called themselves No Limit Soldiers. And just one day, they were at practice, and they started.
Starting point is 01:01:29 That was just their little thing. They did it themselves. But man, they messed around and did it in the game. Obviously, it was TD. And I think Vaughn might have ran on the field, or maybe Grip was out there, and they did it. And it took off yeah and now 20 almost
Starting point is 01:01:49 30 years later everybody's still going to buy a high salute but that's that's how it started they would they called themselves soldiers and they were saluting each other practicing boom ronnell williams said unclecho, what do y'all think about Kamala? She has a chance to win? Of course. She has a 50% chance to win. Well, she got a 33 and a third. I mean, they got Kennedy
Starting point is 01:02:16 and they got ex-President Trump and they got Madam VP Kamala Harris. Yeah, she has a chance. She has a chance. She has a chance. I mean, politics is very iffy. You know, I'm not really into politics. There are three things I stay away from when it comes to conversion on large platforms like our own, unless I'm well informed.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Politics, race and religion. Right. Politics, race and religion. So when it comes to politics, it's it's it's confusing in a sense. There's a lot of. Dirt that goes on in politics, stuff I don't want to get into right now. It's a it's a grimy business is a grimy game, a lot of overpromising and under under delivering by many, you know and I there's a saying that the best politicians they lie and the ones that lie the best are normally the ones that
Starting point is 01:03:10 get chosen and those lies that they do tell before getting elected they never follow through never follow through so Miss Miss she has a good chance to win she has a good chance to win yeah she has a good chance to win so
Starting point is 01:03:27 i'm excited i'm happy for her and made the best person win uh steven bait steven bass 314 said what's the most memorable fight you ever had and have you ever lost a fight yeah so what happened much love to your two favorite people on TV. To my two favorite people on TV. Ocho, you ever been in a fight? Yeah, bro. I used to fight, bro. Come on. Now, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:55 we all done fought when we was shorties, when we was little. Yeah. But, you know, fights like that ain't nothing, but on the street ain't nothing but about 30, 30, 40 seconds. It ain't really that long. Yeah, you know, fights like that ain't nothing, but you know, on the street ain't nothing but about 30, 30, 40 seconds. Yeah. Ain't really that long. Yeah. I mean, I got in one fight in college. Dude just tried to punk me, man. You know, he was, I was, I was a wide receiver. He was a D lineman, man.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Oh yeah. You told us about that. Yeah, man. You come in there, you know, you come in there late. Ocho guys already in the back. We're going to join you. Yeah. That's just the way it was. Everybody knew man, you come in there, you know, you come in there late, Ocho, guys already in the back, we gonna join you. Yeah, that's just the way it was. Everybody knew that. You try to get there first, if you got there last, guys will go and join you. Mm-hmm. You gotta remember, I got thrown out of Lansing
Starting point is 01:04:35 University. Oh, for fighting. I never forget. President Dr. Ernest Holloway, I never forget. You know, dude stole my little, what you call the money you get? Oh, yeah, Pell Grant. Yeah,ay, I'll never forget. You know, dude stole my little, what you call the little money you get? Little Pell Grant. Oh, yeah, Pell Grant. Yeah, man, I put it in my drawer.
Starting point is 01:04:51 I got breakfast. I put it in my drawer. Only one person has access to my room. Like, he kept denying it, man. So, man, and man, Dr. Ernest Holloway said, we don't tolerate that here at this school and we don't have to explain stealing my money either oh man i i enjoyed is it still water or coil at the still water coil oklahoma i enjoyed myself
Starting point is 01:05:18 my short time there and uh yeah it was dope you know who i You know who I went to school with? Who? Who was with me at Langston? Who? Matthew Hatchett. Remember Matthew Hatchett? Yeah, Hatch was there. Hatch was on the team. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Kevin Brooks says, 20 years of military service tomorrow. My wife Nikki, my dad Larry, my twin girls Raylee and Ryan all have birthdays this month. Can I get a shout out? Kevin, thanks for your service. Continue success. Stay blessed. To your wife, your dad, your beautiful twin girls, all happy birthday. Happy
Starting point is 01:05:53 belated birthday. Bro, can't thank you enough for your service. Service. Thank you. I appreciate it. To all our military men and women out there, past and present and future, that put your lives on the line and provide a service that we are able to do what we want to do and enjoy freedoms thanks to your bravery. So thanks to all our men and women out there that's in the military. Kevin, thank you for your 20 years of service.
Starting point is 01:06:20 34 Virgo said, yo, shout out to you for going. Oh, OK. The EYL Fest. Those boys are on point. Bro, I just, I mean, for me, Ocho, I think it's like a huge honor when people want to hear you speak about certain things and they think enough of you because i do understand i'm always i always start anytime i go to a an event i always thank them for inviting me because i do realize they have their choice of entertainers celebrities and
Starting point is 01:06:56 athletes uh and for them to choose me i'm humbled and i'm honored and uh man it's uh it's a huge honor for people to like to want to hear what you have to say that they think enough of you and your story your journey who you are where you are where you came from and maybe
Starting point is 01:07:17 a few people in the audience and attendants will be able to take something from that message that you delivered so it's a huge honor thank you guys for uh having me i greatly appreciate that we didn't really talk about a whole lot about the uh the men's game did we oh lebron james had 21 nine assists six rebounds uh kevin ran had 23 points on eight or nine shooting five or five from the three-point line, two and two from the free-throw line. Steph had 11 points. Holiday had 15 points.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Devin Booker had 12. And Ant-Man had 11. So everybody that played scored. I mean, when you think about it, Ochoa. You had to throw that in there? Everybody that plays? They did. The U.S. shot 62% from the floor, 56% from the three,
Starting point is 01:08:17 but only 60% from the free throw line. They definitely got to do better than that. And B was 0 of 3 from the free throw line. He normally money. But it didn't come back to bite him. They out-rebounded him. Out-assisted him. But they did
Starting point is 01:08:35 have 17 turnovers. They're definitely going to have to cut down on the turnover. Definitely going to have to do that. That's it. Hey, guys. we are back tomorrow. But I, myself, and Ocho want to thank you guys for joining us
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Starting point is 01:10:03 But we want to thank you guys so much for the support and basically uh in under a year the support that you've shown ocho and i the the rate that we've grown that's only because of you that's only because of you know you liking us and helping us go viral and telling your family and friends and loved ones about Nightcap, about two guys that played in the NFL that have great conversations that talk about everything. So I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. I'm sure Ocho feels the same way.
Starting point is 01:10:34 And that's it for tonight. We'll be back tomorrow, same time, right? Same time, 5 p.m. Pacific time, 8 p.m. Eastern time. Thank you for joining us for Nightcap. I'm Shannon Sharp, your favorite aunt.
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