Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Josh Allen for MVP, Kirk Cousins future, Dallas Cowboys lack of focus

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from Week 13 of the NFL season including Buffalo Bills QB Allen becoming the first quarterback in NFL history to score touchdowns running, passing and receiving in a single game, Atlanta QB Kirk Cousins future with the Falcons is up in air, Unc and Ocho go off on Dallas Cowboys dropped passes and believe there is no excuse for a lack of focus despite beating the New York Giants and much more!03:13 - Jahmyr Gibbs leaked protection calls with a photo09:26 - Josh Allen making NFL history with a touchdown13:17 - Bills fans shovel snow at stadium18:00 - Kirk Cousins’ future with the Falcons22:10 - Lions versus Bears39:30 - Cowboys versus Giants48:40 - Deebo Samuel responds to idea that Kyle Shanahan should be on the hot seat(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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terms, and responsible gaming resources. The Mayor gives in the doghouse. He posted a photo of a physician meeting room with schemes on the whiteboard in the background. OK. Hey, OK. I like it. I like it. I like it. Can I tell you something real quick about this?

Can I tell you something? Listen to me real quick. And Uncle about this can I tell you something listen to me real quick for y'all in the chat too listen to me real quick even with the schemes and the stuff that's on the backboard no matter who they playing when that whistle blow

you got to be able to stop it I don't care what you know can you stop it when it's time to you watch film every week.

What week are we in the NFL? We in week what? 13 or 14? 13? There's 13 weeks of schemes and films of that goddamn Detroit Lions offense. Ain't nobody been able to stop it yet. Okay, they had one loss.

Ain't nobody been able to stop it yet. 52 points, 52 points, 24 24 points i think they just scored 26 if i'm not mistaken i'm just i'm just i'm just running off at the top of the head or the point that my 23 i didn't look they beat oh thank you 23 23 20 yeah i mean i understand he probably didn't mean to do what he did and post it you know the information back oh joke well you know what let me let me let me say let me because i didn't know you know that is you know, the information. Also, well, you know what? Let me, let me, let me say, let me, cause I didn't know.

You know, that is, you know, it is. You don't want nothing like that out there. It's like your playbook, leaving your playbook in the hotel. You don't want to put your playbook. Oh,

Joe, y'all, y'all was allowed to take your phone. No, no, I don't take no hair. I ain't taking no phone. Even if I could,

I'm going to take my phone. Not in the meeting room. No. We couldn't have no phone. The phone had to stay in the lockers. You know that. Time difference. Okay.

You're right. You're right. My bad. My bad. There was a reason for him taking the picture. I'm not sure what happened. But listen, that stuff on the backboard, that ain't going to help you beat the Lions. That ain't going to help you.

I'm just telling you, Nack. When that whistle blow, it's a different ballgame. It's a different ballgame. Well, I'm going to help you. I'm just telling you, Naka. When that whistle blow, it's a different ballgame. It's a different ballgame. Well, I'm going to say what happened to us. Well, in the divisional playoff, we had Tennessee Titans, and they somehow got a hold of our playbook. And it damn sure helped them because we couldn't do jack. We had two plays.

We ran. We ran. We hit them at one time. They busted the coverage, and I went 57 yards down to the one, and Jamal ran it in. We blocked the field goal, and Ray ran a kickback. Other than that, we couldn't do nothing.

So it definitely helped. I'm not saying it definitely helps. So there's a, there's a, there's a reason why there's a reason why, uh, the spy gate, not all of a sudden the defensive guy got,

he got a signal and he got a microphone in his helmet. It's like the quarterback. People don't do things that don't it. He got a microphone in his helmet. He's like the quarterback. People don't do things that don't work, Ocho. I hear you. The last time somebody robbed a place that didn't have money or didn't have something of value. People ain't robbing Goodwills and Salvation

Armies and soup kitchens, Ocho. They go pick up stuff of of value but just be smart son in a situation like that Ocho you know everything inside that building is sacred I mean I don't even Ocho I ain't gonna lie Ocho

I don't even remember taking a picture inside the locker room yeah let alone taking a picture't even remember taking a picture inside the locker room. Let alone, let alone taking a picture of the locker room. I've never taken a picture inside the meeting rooms in general, but I got a load of pictures in the locker room itself. I got a lot of them. I got a whole

lot of them. I'm a teammate. To be able to look back on some of the things like that. I don't know. I'm trying to think. Y'all didn't have time out. Time out. I don't know I'm trying to think did we y'all didn't have time out time out time out I don't even know

we had I was just trying to say I had no camera phone when you was playing in the 70s come on now we did though Joe I was about to say

I think y'all had no camera phone back then hell no 90s uh uh man I oh Joe

I remember I remember I remember the first time I didn't even know anything about text messaging so I was like it was Cordell Stewart that in 2005 you could text I was like bro how you text somebody

I ain't know nobody no damn text how y'all used to communicate with your chicks back in the day payphone on the payphone call them I ain't know nobody I'm telling you communicate with your chicks back in the day pay phone call them well I mean we had a community phone in the hall so you had like four phones

that if you press nine you could call you know what I'm saying and dial the number yes but it had to be local and the way You know what I'm saying? And dial the number. Yes. Yes. But it had to be local. Can't dial long distance. And the way they communicated with you,

they would call and it went to a central location. And so they're like, I'd like to leave a message to Shannon Sharp. My name is such and such. Here's the number. Have them give me a call. And then they would come downstairs and put it in your box. We had mailboxes.

So everybody had an individual box that you put. And so you have a bunch of, you'd have notes in there and so forth and so on like that. It wasn't like it is. I don't know how they do it. Now, don't start me lying now, Ocho. I don't know how they do it now. Like I said, I've been going away from the game two decades. It has been two decades. So I

don't know what the... But I guess now you wouldn't need to call. Everybody has a phone. Everybody didn't have cell phones when I was in the league. Everybody had no cell phone. That came towards the end of it. But in the mid-90s, man, the call was like $5 a minute.

You didn't have no beeper? No, I didn't have no beeper. I didn't have a beeper. Damn. I wasn't that important, Ocho. I wasn't that important. But like I said, I know meetings uh cell phones

weren't allowed in the meetings what not when i was there once i left i retired in 04 so whatever they did after that i don't know anything about it so i i don't want to speak for something that transpired 04 0506 moving forward but i'm saying from the time i was there moving back there was no cell phones in the meeting room so that that would, man, Mike would have lost his damn mind. Especially during those days the coaches were different. They were a little bit more like, I call it Tom,

they were like Tom Coulson-ish. That's the only thing I can think of. Very Bill Sell-ish, you know. Hey, no nonsense. Oh, Joe, Josh Allen's next touchdown will make Buffalo Bills history. With his next touchdown, rushing or passing, Allen will become the Bills' all-time leader in touchdowns

for passing the great Jim Kelly. Allen has been the best quarterback in December since 2020. In that span, he's first in total touchdowns, passing touchdowns, and wins. That's a lot. Look, I hate it. I hate it because the Broncos could have had him. Yeah. The Broncos should have drafted him.

And if I'm not mistaken, they drafted Bradley Chubb to pair with Vaughn Miller. Two outside linebackers. You can keep Vaughn and get a quarterback. You got to have that guy. You got to have him. I don't care how many great your defense is.

You better have a quarterback. You think maybe they didn't like what they saw? Coming out of Wyoming, right? No, am I wrong? Yeah. I think small sample size too, if I'm not mistaken, huh?

Yeah. You know, sometimes, sometimes, sometimes scouts miss. Sometimes you overthink it, don't you? I mean, you took, you took Bross Osweiler. You take Paxton Lynch. You taking guys like that. Guys that are not, even if you just say, you know what?

He's not the most accurate his ability to run the football that's what makes him you're talking about a man that's 250 pounds that can run like he can run in fact whatever

discrepancies you might have with his game especially from a throwing standpoint throwing standpoint oh we could work on that we could work on that yes

look at the foundation look at the foundation you have to work with and build with you can take it from there take it from there look how he's turned out in Buffalo he has the arm because in order to play in a big Buffalo

you gotta have an arm because guess what the Jets they play outside New England you play outside so you put him in Denver, you're outside. Kansas City is outside. You really need arm because a lot of the teams that you're going to potentially face, Kansas City, outside. Baltimore, outside. The Steelers, outside. Buffalo, outside. Buffalo outside. So your quarterback is going to have to be able to deal with the elements because in those stadiums, not only does it get cold, the wind blows. So you might have, Ocho, you might have snow, gust, and bone, bone-crunching, crunching cold.

I'm talking about 10 below, 15 below, with gusts up to 20 30 miles an hour i'd sure wish we'd have drafted him but we're not gonna get him now because buffalo won't let him go we're not getting but i like oh hey both playing real well very well for a rookie. I'm not sure if it's Bo Nix. I don't know. If I'm not sure, it's the quarterback whisperer in Sean Payton. But somebody doing something right over there. I don't care what it is. Just keep on winning.

I'm going to give me some Bo, buddy. Hold Bo. Hold Bo. You know they got to play the Bengals, right? Don't you worry about that. Don't you got free stuff tomorrow? Who y'all play tomorrow? Damn, who do we play? Oh, we play the Steelers. We finna win that game.

We play the Steelers. Oh, yeah, that's L. We play the Steelers. Can y'all see that chat? L. We play the Steelers. You won't bet none. LL.

You won't bet none. I asked. Ocho, you owe me so much money now, man. Damn. Whatever I owe you, I'm going to pay you when we get to the tour in February at Super Bowl. At the live tour, I'm going to

pay you live on stage. Whatever. That's how we're going to open it. Why can't I get my money now? I got to collect it first. Why can't I get my money now? For all these goddamn jobs I got.

You know what? I'm going to tell inside the NFL I'm gonna tell Apple I'm gonna tell everybody y'all just wait till February wait till y'all we get on the tour y'all pay that's how he paying me y'all pay him like that ahead of tomorrow's showdown

against San Francisco 49ers the Bills are asking for fans to sign up to help shovel snow out of Highmark Stadium. The deal is pretty simple. The Bills will pay $20 an hour, provide food, hot beverage, and shovels to those who sign up. Lake Effect Snow Buffalo is expected to bury Western New York beginning Saturday with two feet predicted to fall in Orchard Park

where the Bills' stadium is located by kickoff. Mocho, one thing about them. Oh, yeah. They don't play. They love their Bills. The fans love it. The fans love it. Yes.

I think the only thing else they got up there, the Sabres. I think Buffalo Sabres, they play hockey. I think that's still up there. But, boy, they look here. I love their football team, Mocho. If I lived in Buffalo, if I was a Buffalo fan, have you seen the way they,

before the game even starts, have you seen what they do in, in, in, in, in, in, in,

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I played this, I played there, 90, 90, 91, 92, 93, 97.

I played there like seven, eight times. I don't know what night did I think about it, Ocho. I tried there like seven, eight times. I don't know what night I think about it, Ocho. I'm trying to figure out why we had to play so damn many games there. Because we played there 90, 91,

94, 97. But we played Buffalo. We played Buffalo a lot too. Damn. Now that I think about it, and we played them in the preseason one year, but they love their Bills. Good.

Listen, they're a fan base that don't get the credit they deserve, but how much they love their fan base. They get active. They get active. That's the only word I can think of it. They get active pregame. Yes during game, and after game. They out.

They out. Oh, man. They love their Bills. Man, and don't let them make a play. And them Jokers talk, let's go, Buffalo. Let's go, Buffalo. A little bit softer now. A little bit softer now. A little bit softer now.

A little bit softer. And they start, boy! That's it. Hey. Bart Rich Daniel. Jumping, yeah. That thing used to be crazy. Yeah, that thing would be jumping.

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They got Larimer. They got Jim. They got Andre Reid, Brucie, Biscuit, Talon. Yes. But boy. I already know. They got Jim. They got Andre Reid. Brucie. Biscuit. Yes. But boy. I already know. I already know. Listen. Boy, they cooking.

They going to have that stadium cleaned out for that game Sunday. I guarantee you that. Oh, for sure. And you notice anytime something happens, hey, somebody, who that knocked somebody out of the playoff and they donated money to that person's charity? Somebody get nicked. Somebody get hurt. They donate to that person's foundation. Those fans are the classiest.

I ain't got nothing to say about them. The classiest of them all. Classiest. Kirk Cousins, excuse me, future with the Falcons rides on the next six games per Jeremy Fowler. If he doesn't deliver over the next stretch, the Falcons would explore trading next six games per Jeremy Fowler. If he doesn't deliver over the next stretch, the Falcons would explore

trading him this offseason given that they have rookie Michael Penix Jr. They're like, some team will be like, why we want this contract? Well, why we got to go like that?

Huh? I don't know about that. It's one. It's one. It's one thing about Kirk Cousins. He has always been afforded that grace for only having one player win. So they're going to take that contract on. They're going to definitely take it on.

And he's right. Mr. Powell is right as far as these last five games. And I think even if he does play well these last five games, I think they're ready to move on with Penning Jr. anyway. Honestly, it's time to get that train rolling. It's time to get that train rolling, most definitely. I'm excited for him. I'm excited for him. I'm excited to see what he can do with Drake, London, and Kyle Pitts

and B. John Robinson. And there's no need for him to sit behind Kirk Cousins for a second year. There's no need. I think it'll be great, because here's the thing, Ocho. Let's just say... If Kirk goes somewhere, do you take Kirk Cousins and then take the rookie quarterback

and then have him sit behind him a year and then move it on? I don't like Kirk outside. Right. In the cove. Do you like him in New York? Wait, which New York? I know you're talking about the Giants.

Yes, or the Giants. And have Shadoris sit behind him a year? Do you like him in New York? I know you're talking about the Giants. Yes, or the Giants. Do you like him there? Yeah, but with his arm, with that Achilles, with that cold, with those conditions, you kind of need an arm to cut through that.

Or have a sense of understanding. You just put a little nugget in my head now. You understand what Kirk Cousins can do from the quarterback position, right? When he has a star receiver. Can you imagine Kirk Cousins throwing the goddamn league navels? The accuracy, the pretty balls. Kirk Cousins throws a catchable ball and will always put it right where it needs to be.

He might not have the strongest arm. He might not have the strongest arm, but it's going to get ready to protect him every time. And he's accurate to look at it. Yeah, that too. Look at the Ocho. You want to put him behind that giant line? It's fast, man. You can get that ball at the same fast.

That's not what he does. Look at look at Kirk Cousins in the regular season. Look at the receivers he's had. Look at the receivers he's had and what those receivers have been able to do with Kirk Cousins at the helm. I like it from Malik Napers until Shador takes the reins over because he's going to the Giants.

He's going to the Giants unless the goddamn Raiders, for some godforsaken reason, are able to climb all the way from wherever they're picking at and come snatch him up. Now, I'm not telling you what I know. Hey, I don't know. Prime might not be too keen on that.

Hey, yeah, I know. I know. I know. I'm just saying. I believe it in that because they already go, like, Shana Sharpe said, because you already know where they're headed with that. So disregard. Objection. I object to what Shana said. Now, let's get into it, Ocho.

The Lions beat the Bears 23-20 but that wasn't the story of the game Caleb Williams had one of the great the second half was as good as he could possibly

throw it the play that he made outside of the pocket the way he threw the ball from the pocket and he had a couple of drops in there too Ocho

but that he was undeterred he ran now it wasn't smart that you try to get slick and try to stop on the diamond. Going out of bounds.

Yeah. Going out of bounds. Hey, they're not going to let you get away with that because they saw what Patrick Mahomes did and they saw guys fooling before. So they're going to punish you if they get there. So just going out of bounds. But it was Caleb Williams got sacked, Ocho.

When he got sacked, it was 33 seconds on the clock. One. They have a timeout. They got one. It's about to be third down. Take your timeout. Now, you got 33 seconds.

Ocho, even if you don't get it, even if you don't get it, even if you don't, you still got fourth down. How do you go from 33 seconds and you keep your time out and you want run only one play with 33 seconds? Because if you complete the ball in bounds,

Ocho, you should be able to run your field goal unit on the field, get your other players off the field with 18 seconds. They had, so even a play only lasts, what, five, six, seven, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, we're going to say the play lasts 10 seconds. Caleb Williams scrambled around. It took him 10 seconds.

You still have 23 seconds to get your field goal unit on the field, to get your other guys off the field. That's more than enough time to get the ball snapped, get held get it down and get a kick honestly and i mean no disrespect i'm all for people having a job i think it's very important to have a job but that was coaching malpractice not only that was coaching malpractice i think he must have been betting against the odds out there in goddamn vegas but not calling that goddamn timeout you know that is a fireable offense and i'm not one to ever stand on my soapbox and say that someone should be fired. But for them to have lost the last five,

I think, what, five or six games, and this is a game that you had an opportunity to win or at least tie and go into overtime and see what you can do in overtime, I can't believe Coach did that, that he didn't call the time. And also on Caleb Williams, understand, you have to have better clock management in your head. If your coach is not on point the way he should be and really being on top of the time and how much time you have left, Caleb Williams, as a player who's played at the big level out there at USC, you should understand how much time is on the clock and what you need to do in those situations to make sure it doesn't happen again. So this is for one, the coach, you should already know. You should already know.

This is coaching malpractice. But Kayla Williams, this is a situation, if it ever comes up again during your tenure in the NFL, understand clock management and how important it is to give your team a chance to either tie or win a game. That's a bunch of bullshit, man. Keenan Allen said something very interesting. That's a good shot, huh? And I don't know if you...

Good shot. He said... Wait, which one? No. Keenan Allen said, as players, we played well enough to win this game. Think about the underlying tone

and what he's saying. Oh, yeah. I know the underlying tone. I just hope... Look, if I'm Matt Ibraflues, if i'm if i'm at ever fluse if i'm ever fluse oh sure i would just took the fine right and i'm not talking to the media after that because then he gets up there and says that bull jive that we got what we wanted and i'm good with it that's ridiculous you sound foolish it sounds like a man that knows he made a mistake

and want to die on that hill instead of saying, God, that's on me. That's on me. I should have called a timeout with 33 seconds. What's wrong with getting that difference? How you run one plate with 33 seconds is absolutely a fireball offense.

And I have never advocated for anyone to lose their job because I understand how precious jobs are. But you can't continuously make the mistakes that he's making and remain in that position and then come out there and give those bull jive excuses or those bull jive answers to why it's played out it's too many times there's a real current theme yeah that if you notice no joke uh uh anytime they put a receiver in it's always a new receiver in it's always somehow the ball finding or they put a new db in somehow the ball always goes his way you watch it in baseball if the ball somehow always will find him basketball a new guy comes in somehow the ball, damn, we want the ball to end up in your hands with the last second, but damn, here we are.

It keeps coming down, Ocho, to plays like this. When you have to understand the situation that your team is in, and you have to make split-second decisions, he let his team down more times than not. Decision-makers like that is the difference between not winning, not losing the past five games. Split the seconds like that.

It's a game of inches. It's a game of inches. And the coaching is one of the reasons why teams win. What do you think the difference is in the Detroit Lions before Dan Campbell got there and the Detroit Lions while he is there? That's coaching. That's coaching. That's all it comes down to, being able to execute the plays. I know some of it is on the players, but also the coaching. It has to come together and work as one. But you can't be coaching like that and having a situation like that

and want to say the excuse you use and not take accountability, how do you think your players feel? Like, just listen to what you're saying. Players don't normally react to a game like that and throw the coach under the bus. No. There's a disconnect. There's a complete disconnect in the locker room.

Ain't a disconnect. There's a complete disconnect in the locker room. Ain't no disconnect. They've lost confidence in their head coach because the thing is with situational football, you have to practice certain situations. You have to practice fourth down. You have to practice two minutes. You have to practice no huddle. You have to practice being in certain situations.

So therefore, if you're in that situation, you'll know how to respond. We practice running the field goal unit on the field. We getting off the field, and it's with 18 seconds. So, we practice certain situations. Get out of bounds. Make sure you try to get the ball to the official. Don't aim.

All that. Don't throw the ball. Hey, look. They're not receivers. They're old.'t throw the ball because hey look they're not receivers they're old hand them the ball yeah i i i just don't get it and like i said i don't i don't uh uh jimmy johnson said and said in 70 years of being around coaching he's never seen the level of dysfunction that the bears have right now and i can't say that I disagree with it because it's a real current. Ocho, it's week after week.

I can see it as a one-time thing, Ocho. That's an accident. You know what else? And on top of it, and speaking on top of what Jimmy Johnson said, he said he'd never seen any kind of dysfunction. You know, it's just not this year. It's just not this year.

You're trying to change the culture in Chicago in general. The culture, the winning culture in Chicago has been gone for a very long time. It's been gone for a very long time and being able to contend and compete year in and year out on a consistent basis. All of that starts at the top. And in the middle, it starts with the coach. And then it lingers into the players. So until you get that middle ground the right way, everything else is going to falter.

It starts with little like today. It might be little because it's one game, but it affects the entirety of a season because bad decisions will continue to be made. Oh, Joe, I don't know what they said, but when we went on we would go on the field

especially it's the last drive we got two timeouts we got one timeout we got no timeout if you can get the ball out of bounds all things being equal we'll take a five yard game and get out of bounds as opposed to a 10 yard game and not get out of bounds as opposed to a 10-yard game and not get out of bounds. So we've already gone through situations that we could potentially see in a game because there's only one way to handle a situation. It's just like everything else, Ocho. You practice first

down. You practice second down. You practice third down. You practice goal line and red zone. Okay, there are certain situations. Now you can't practice everything everything Ocho but hopefully you play football long enough you'll know with 33 seconds and you got a timeout

after a sack you automatically take a timeout I don't know what everybody was even thinking that's the first thing you do because the official is standing right there by you that's the side judge he right the funny thing about it is, is you could have ran,

you could have ran, you could have ran that play, right? But you could have called that time out, ran another play. And I'm not sure what your signal was, Unc, where the special team is already ready.

And we used to yell, fire, fire, fire, fire. And the offense hurries up. There's enough time on the clock. There would have been enough time on the clock. You come out and you kick the field goal and hopefully before the clock

hits zero, you have them execute that field goal and tie the game and take it into overtime and then boom. Now you got a fresh start and hoping you can get down there and score. It's an even ball game at that point. But you don't even give your team a goddamn chance.

And they had the momentum. They had played extremely well yesterday. They had the momentum in the ballgame. I thought Detroit got away from running the football. There's another – Ocho, at some point in time, you're going to have to stop making excuses for Jamison Williams. You've got to stop.

You've got to stop making excuses for him. No, that's Gil. They're hitting the guy in the face with the football that's standing on the sideline. Yeah. He almost cost his team. That's the kind of, see, that's the kind of immaturity. I'm trying to figure

out, what could the guy possibly, he on the sideline. Bro, why you talking? You not even in the game let that sink in for a second you're not even in the game right and you talking get in the game first and then i'll address you i ain't addressing nobody on the sideline what made it even more egregious is that it was after the play so the down already counted so now they back you up 15 yards. And then he gets to the sideline and he's arguing with Antoine Randall-El

trying to explain what he did. Bro, shut up. There's no offer with no explanation. And the words of the great Billy Holiday, now don't explain. Hold on. What you the great Billy Holiday, now don't explain. Hold on. What you know about Billy Holiday? I'm trying to figure out

what's his explanation. Everybody saw what you did. He said something, you turned and flipped the ball in his face. You lucky he didn't run and put his foot in your ass. I got a question for you. Now that we talk about the Bears, I understand what James

Williams did. I'm going to talk to the young bull. I got young bull. I got young bull on the line, too. I'm going to talk to him. You can't do that. You can't cause your team, especially as well as y'all

are doing right now. But what you think about, Chad, y'all tell me what y'all think now. What you think about Bill Belichick to the Bears? I think wherever Bill Belichick goes, as long as they have a defense and a quarterback that you can work with caleb williams is a quarterback that you can work with he's someone that you can win with based on his

skill set and what he can do at him what do you think yeah it's good because what i'm going to on wednesday when we when we do inside the nfl i'm going to bring it up on the show at bill what do you think about your opportunity in having a coaching job in Chicago? There's a defense, a very adequate defense that you can work with, one of the better corners in the league in Jalen Johnson, that's my little nephew. You got a quarterback that you can develop and mold and understanding what it takes to win.

I mean, who says no to that? Then you have an organization that's going to give you the keys. They're going to give you the keys because you have an understanding on what it takes to win, what it takes to build a winning team. Here, you got six, seven Super Bowls. You also, you want to go get that coaching record from Don Shuler. You want to break that, right? Now, boom, you have organization that's going to

give you the keys and allow you to build the team you need to build to be able to contend and compete in that NFC. Why not take it? Yeah, because that division ain't coming back. This is what Ibrahim Flus, when he addressed uh after the game he said i hope was that we re-rack that play at 18 seconds throw it in bounds get into field goal range and then call our final timeout so you see ocho he doesn't understand you don't need to call a timeout wait

18 seconds that's more than enough time to get your field goal unit on and off the field. That was where we was in our decision-making process on that. We were outside of field goal range. No jive, Sherlock. And needed to get a few more yards in there as close as we can get. And we're going to call a timeout. That's why we held the last half. So, in other words, now you're going to next week. You got four timeouts in the first half.

Oh no, you can't use that timeout. Disappointing for our players. They put a lot of work in on a short week and put themselves in position to win that game. They did. And you denied them that. That part you got right. On a short week, our players,

we didn't play the best first half, but we played an outstanding second half, and we put ourselves in position to win the game. And my boneheaded play, my boneheaded situation. Lack of love. Yeah. Cost our team a game. More games are lost than one in the NFL.

Exhibit A. I'd like to present this, Your Honor. Exhibit A of how games are lost than one in the NFL. Exhibit A. I'd like to present this, Your Honor. Exhibit A of how games are lost. I don't get it. I don't. I don't. I don't get how he continuously finds himself. If you notice, Ocho, like I said, when you make bonehead plays,

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What the hell was he thinking? Why would you not call a timeout with 33 seconds left? I don't know. Again, it's culture malpractice. It made me think he had money on the game to do something like that, to not even give your team a chance to win, especially with what you've been through week in and week out with the losing, the close games, the games you played well. I mean,

like, come on, man, give yourself a chance. There are multiple scenarios when you're down in that situation that should already be going and be playing in your head, not just the one you explained at the goddamn podium. There are multiple scenarios that you play on. Okay, what do I need to do? Split decision, fast decision making. If you don't have it, then your quarterback got to have it, but your quarterback is supposed to be learning from you. So if you ain't got it and you the head man, look at how he's supposed to know it. But definitely the here and there. Caleb would know and have a better understanding of time, you know, and how much time you have to use, you know,

as he gets older and a little bit more mature in the NFL and understanding clock management. And explain that to him. Let him know, hey, we got one timeout, Caleb. So, hey, if you get sacked, don't be afraid. Let's not be afraid to use that timeout. The Cowboys defeated the Giants 27-20. Cowboys reignited the ground game,

securing their fourth 100-yard rush game of the season. Rico Dotto led the way with a career-high 112 yards on 22 carries. It's his first 100-yard game as a professional. It's also the Cowboys' first by a player, a Cowboy player, since Tony Pollard in week three of 2023. Dottal also responsible for Cowboys'

first rushing attempt of at least 20 yards this year. The star of the Cowboys was DeMarvion Overshawn. He secured both of Dottal's turnovers, recovering a fumble, reinforced by Eric Kendrick and Tyrone Tracy

and catching his own batted pass. And he ran that back for a pick six. That was on Drew Locke because you see the guy right there, you go open over the top. You don't throw it. And listen, the Cowboys defensively, they play

very well they play very very well on the run pass game man they play they play really well especially at the point of attack they were very physical up front not allowing the giants to have their way and impose their will so i i like what i saw from the cowboys today but can you do it against the better teams can you do it consistently against the teams that have winning records? That's where the issue comes into play for them. I'm hoping. I'm hoping everything is okay with CeeDee Lamb.

I see he left the game maybe late second, maybe early third quarter. Something wrong with his shoulder. Third quarter, yeah. You know he had that bruised, rotated, aced joint. But that ain't got nothing to do third quarter yeah you know he had that uh bruise rotator what was the ac joint but they ain't got nothing oh joe they ain't got nothing to do with them dropping them down i ain't gonna let you do that

i'm talking about he dropped three of them he turned into a retriever all he did was pick the ball up and hand it to the official. His job as a receiver, his job is to catch the ball, not to retrieve the ball. He dropped three. He had six targets. He had two catches. Malik Nabors, same thing for you, bro. Y'all yapping about getting the ball, but you're dropping it.

He throw it to you, you throw it back at him. So, yeah, I saw CD get dragged down on his shoulder but that wasn't why he's dropping those passes that's lack of concentration yeah I wasn't going to bring up the drop balls but since you I know since you boys you got to catch

that pill baby that's the money that's your money maker that's your money maker that brown ball they call the Duke you got to love ball they call the Duke, you got to love that. You got to love that. You got to love that more than you love your family. Because in order to feed your family, you got to catch that Duke. They're going to be all right, though. We're going to get that together.

That ain't nothing but a little jug machine after practice. Even in week 12, a little jug machine after practice is going to hurt. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not talking about at the practice more hurt. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not talking about Malik Nabors as a rookie. What they got to do is you catching the ball. You caught the ball. That's something you've been doing all your life, Ocho. We're not

asking them to make spectacular catches like when they throw you the ball in the frame of your body catch it. That's all we're asking. We don't need no Odell Beckham. We don't need nothing spectacular. When they throw you the ball Ocho, you catch it. At some point we're asking. We don't need no Odell Beckham. We don't need nothing spectacular. When they throw you the ball, Ocho, you catch it. At some point in time, you got to realize everything is not meant to be

spectacular. Everything is not meant to be a catch and run Ocho for 40 yards. You have to understand the situation. You know what? The most important thing here is to get this first down. Let me get this and get on the ground. If you look at CD, what did CD try to do? He tried to get up first down. Let me get this and get on the ground. A lot of, if you look at, CD, what did CD try to do? He tried to get up the

road. I ain't never seen a catch that hit the ground first. If you drop it, it ain't a catch. I don't care how, ooh, you jumping up and down, but ooh, I ought to be going. And you would have, but

you're not. You're going back to the huddle. Come on, guys. I get looks. It wasn't no sun today. Ain't nobody can complain about no sun, Ocho. Yeah, it wasn't out. It wasn't out. It wasn't out.

Just, hey, a small lack of concentration, split second, taking your eyes off the ball. But, Ocho, normally when you have one of those drops early, what do you do? You concentrate. You focus even more. It seems like CD, he lapsed concentration. He lapsed even more because after that point, Ocho, he didn't touch another pass.

Cooper Rush was 21-36 to 36 195 one touchdown uh like you said they ran the ball ocho um basically about four yards of carry that ain't bad that ain't bad 32 carries not the greatest but it ain't bad you can live with that look you can only beat who's on your schedule right you know the giants aren't very good. But we've seen the Cowboys lose games like this before also. So give them credit for keeping focused on a short week, not still celebrating the victory in Washington, coming out there, handling their business today.

When you get two, string two together, now you get about five or six days off before you get ready for the next Sunday. You still look everything you you are probably need to run a table. In order to get one of these playoff spots. You're getting three teams out of the NFC North. Minnesota, Green Bay and Detroit. Right.

So there's only one spot left. Cowboys, San Francisco, Seattle, Arizona. There's one problem. And that goes for all Cowboys fans in the chat. I have, this is no disrespect to y'all. Yeah, the Cowboys do need to run the table to have a chance at a spot. You do know they play the Bengals Monday night, right? In Jerry's world, right?

Okay. I'm just making sure. I'm just making sure you understand what they got coming up. Y'all defense. Y'all defense is terrible. Y'all might do something. Y'all better be able to block. Can y'all block in the front?

Oh, yeah. We're going to be fine. You know, Joe get the ball out of his hands quick anyway. Matter of fact, we're going to establish the run first. Get them boys, get the front tied up there. Michael Parsons is going to be frustrated.

He's going to get mad because the ball is going to be coming out. Boom. It's gone. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Cowboy fans, what are y'all talking about? Y'all going to win the division. Y'all two and one. Y'all understand the Eagles record? Don't fall for that.

Don't fall for that. This the delusion. This is why Jerry's how he is. Because he knows his fans are gullible. They're delude. They're delude. They're going to believe anything that he sells them. And it serves them right.

They just. I'll be glad. Lou. They're going to believe anything that he sells them, and it serves them right. I'll be glad when it's like, in like three weeks, when they get put out of their misery, and then what they're going to say, wait until next year. And I'll be right here. Guess what? Nightcap will be right here next year. In 25, 26, 27, and y'all still ain't going nowhere.

But look, like I said, Ocho, you can only beat who's on your schedule. Like I said, we've seen the Cowboys lose games like this before. They won today. Give them credit for that. I thought they ran the ball extremely well. The defense got after Drew Locke, made it very, very tough. I mean, think about Ocho.

I mean, they ran the ball 21 times for 116 yards. That's, hey. Yeah, that's enough to beat the Giants. Let's keep it. No, I'm saying the Giants rushed. No, okay, okay. I'm saying, is it Dowdham? That's his last name?

No, no, no. I'm saying, no, the Cowboys rushed 32 for 122. The Giants rushed 21 for 16. Folks, what about putting it in the air, huh? But... But here's the thing, though, Ocho.

Yeah. You gave up a scoop in school. Pick six. I mean, you gave up a pick six and you gave up in another fumble. That's the game. There you go right there.

You basically played to a standstill on offense. But when you turn the ball over, you pay double for that. What do you expect to happen? Deebo Samuel responds to the idea that Kyle Shanahan should be on the hot seat. Super Bowl, NFC Championship, year after that, NFC Championship again, last year's Super Bowl.

Why are you saying he's on the hot seat? He doesn't understand how the business works. But just hearing the fact that Shanahan is even on a hot seat, we talk about one that's going to be sought after from every other team. I wish you would let someone like Shanahan go and allow his staff and that offense to go somewhere else, especially go somewhere else that has a quarterback, have a decent quarterback at that.

Then he's going to build the same exact thing with that same exact offense. Give him a quarterback. Didn't he just have an extension? That'll a quarterback. Didn't he just have an extension? That'll be nice. Didn't he just have an extension last year? Oh, you know when something like this comes out? You know it's coming from inside the house, right? You hear me?

The call is coming from inside the house when stuff like this comes out. How many years was it? Because he had like a year left on the contract so he signed a five year extension because he had like a six year a six or seven year deal to begin with man you know you know how this NFL is

so this so yeah what's he making eight nine a year because he had a contract that was like six So, yeah. What's he making? Eight, nine a year? Because he had a contract that was like six years. Oh, yeah. Rightfully so, though.

Huh? Rightfully so. So, Ocho. Yeah. Rightfully so. Now, you do realize, you do realize, Ocho, like when you get rid of the head coach,

his whole staff, he ain't got guys on one-year deals. Right. He signed through 2027. 25, 26, 27. So that's three years. That's 42 million. I don't think he's on the hot seat, considering he just

the man just came off the football. I know, but you know how fickle the NFL is. You know how fickle offense are. That's not New York. But then it wouldn't be out. Something like this wouldn't even leak. You hear me?

Where there's smoke, there's fire. Stuff like this comes from inside the house. Always. Well, it ain't coming from John Lynch because John Lynch got the job because of Kyle Shanahan so who is it Jed York Jed York hey well good luck

with that one he'd be unemployed he'd be unemployed all the way out 30 minutes 30 minutes is 30 minutes. Is that. The volume. The made for this mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them.

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