Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Justin Jefferson smack talk, Derrick Rose retires, LeBron trash talks Bronny

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss Jefferson Jefferson and Jaire Alexander beef and reflect on how times have changed since their days in the NFL and you can't get away with the same stuff. Later, Unc and Ocho react to the former MVP Derrick Rose retiring, LeBron James talking trash to his son Bronny James and much more!04:00 - Fields says Steelers coaches are better07:50 - Justin Jefferson on Jaire Alexander13:10 - UNLV NIL20:00 - Texas QB starter21:13 - Derrick Rose retires26:41 - Rob Pelinka said LBJ was trash talking Bronny30:04 - Que and Ayeeee(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So, look, I get it i hey man you know i know big willie um i'm surprised he had he isn't an offensive line coach for somebody maybe that's not what he wants to do because he's as good as anybody oh yeah teaching lineman because a lot of linemen go work with big willie in the offseason. One of the best right-handers ever. Yeah. Yeah. And so I think somebody would be very, very lucky to have him as an offensive line coach. What's up, Big Willie? I know you be watching from time to time.

We DM each other, Twitter, IG sometimes. So the big homie, I'm always pulling for the Georgia. Oh, Joe, Justin Fields said the Steelers coaching staff is significantly better than the Bears coaching staff. Oh, don't do that. He was asked by teammate Cameron Hayward on Not Just

Football podcast. Let's take a listen to what Justin had to say. Do I like that, Justin? Coaching Pittsburgh or Chicago. That was a come on. Yeah, I mean, I mean, listen, we talk about the Steelers.

Yeah, we talk about we talk about the Steelers historic organization five, six Super Bowls a history of winning. It's a winning franchise. No disrespect to the Bears, but obviously, you know, the coaching is going to be different. Everybody under Mike, Mike Tomlin, Tutelich. You know, Arthur Smith.

Understanding, playing to your player's strengths. Not trying to make him do too much. Having him do what he's actually good at. You know, and that's exactly what he's doing. He's not turning the goddamn ball over. Number one thing. They ain't scoring 40 and 38 goddamn points. They doing just enough, not turning the ball over,

then playing crazy goddamn defense. Yeah, they are. Boy, that goddamn defense over there nice, boy. Here's the thing Ocho when you get one of these young quarterbacks who you gonna have to coach it Cliff Kingsbury yes sir coach coaches Jane Daniels the one thing you might say he's not a good head coach the one thing that you can't say that he's not a good oc he's not a good quarterback coach he had johnny manziel in texas a&m when he won the heisman he had patrick mahomes he had kyler murray you look at the guys and look at them kyler was a rookie of the year johnny manziel

won the heisman patrick mahomes threw for damn near 800 yards in a game right ended up going number 10 overall right so he can coach the position you had justin fields and i don't know if they had the right coaches in place and see because they didn't have the right coaches in place justin turned the ball over he could turn the ball over why because he knew they didn't have anybody that was gonna come in he knows now if he turns the ball over he's taking his ass to the bench because r is going to come in. So he's a lot more careful with the football. They put him in situations where he can be a lot more careful because they don't need him to be great.

Chicago needed him to be great. Yeah. So now I don't need to be a hero. I can lift. Hey, I ain't got to strain myself. I ain't got to blow out my back trying to lift 400 pounds i can lift this 135 every once in a while you know hey i add another quarter on there it hit 185 but all i need to do is not put the ball in harm's way yeah and the steelers do with the way they

play defense they're gonna be in a lot of games now the question is ocho if they fall behind yeah yeah that can that style can you survive that that style running the football three yards here four yards there throwing the ball but yeah i think the thing is the thing the mistake that teams make is that when they get a quarterback and they draft him high right damn the head coach you who gonna coach him that's what i need to know right who is coaching him because that's the difference the person that's in his ear the person that's in the meeting room the person that when we call in plays and i ask you what you like that's the guy right and he needs to be an expert on that level.

But I'm happy. I'm happy. He found a home. I thought he would have been great in Atlanta. Atlanta went another direction. But hey, I'm happy for Justin Fields. Justin Jefferson spoke on his feet with Packers DB Jair Alexander.

Ocho, let's take a listen to what he had to say. I didn't really care if he played or not last year. I was just more focused on, you know, of course, during that time, we were fighting to get back into the playoffs and to make our own. You know, that's something that I was looking forward to. I really don't care about the matchup, honestly.

I feel like he cares more than I do but I mean it is what it is that's every team what do you make of his comments? man he didn't go at him he didn't go at him he should have said I'm finna go at his head

like I need I need I need that Odell Thurman Josh Norman Marshawn Lattimore, Mike Evans. Odell Thurman, Odell Beckham. Odell Beckham.

I'm talking about Odell Thurman. I'm talking about Odell Beckham, Josh Norman. Who the hell is Odell Thurman? I'm tripping. I'm tripping. I'm tripping. That's my dog. He played with me in Cincinnati.

You know Odell Thurman went to Georgia. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I need that type of energy, man. You know, make the games exciting. Packers playing the Vikings. I need Jair to say something. Man, I'm going to lock your ass up. But that's not his style, though.

That's not Justin Jefferson's style. I know, I know. It's understandable. But it just makes it more entertaining and exciting for the fans getting ready to watch the game. Yeah. I mean, for me. For me. I'm going to watch anyway.

But I'm just saying. Yeah, for sure. It'd be good to have that little bulletin board material. You know, to add a little spice to it. A little spice to the game. Yeah. But Justin Jefferson was politically correct just then. I ain't on like that side of him.

I don't like the PC Justin Jefferson. But that's who he is, man. He ain't like us. I mean, that's going to talk. Oh, yeah. Hey, listen, he'll talk to you now. Probably not through the media, but on that field, he'd be out there chirping. Mm-hmm.

But it's a whole different ballgame to talk that trash before a game starts, and then you got to go into the game, you got to back it up. Yeah, for sure. That's a whole different ballgame. Man, look here. Whether I said anything or I talked a lot,

they still going to kick the ball off at 205 on Sunday. So it did better. But it ain't, it ain't, you know, I'm coming. They know I'm coming. Yeah.

I know I'm coming. Yeah. Okay. What you got? But you don't, you don't understand how dog remember Michael Crabtree and Richard Sherman going at it? Oh, no, you mean what you call him? And what you call him?

Who? Akeem Tlaib. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, you know, Akeem, stay on one. Yeah, they were going at it. Man, anytime Marshawn Lattimore and Mike Evans play, or, I mean, just that Odell Beckham and that Josh Norman, those were so exciting.

I mean, they were so exciting because they was going, I'm talking about all-out war. It's still football, you know, a little extracurricular activity, you know, here and there. But, man, I love watching the boys go at it, man. Oh, yeah. It's different now to Ocho. They don't let you play like that. They don't let

the intimidation factor, they don't let the physicality, because you can't get physical no more. They're going to throw flags. Because back then, they would let us talk. Now, the first time you say something, here comes the referee running to get in the skinny ass in front of you. Back up!

Or you catch a bull. Oh, man. It's a different time now, Ocho. It's a different time. They want to keep it. I mean, did I... Were there some players that didn't like each other? Yeah.

Yeah. But, you know what? We just kept it on the field. But that didn't didn't like each other yeah yeah but you know what we just kept it on the field but we didn't travel like these guys travel and be all together like that yeah we we wasn't going to no white parties and we wasn't going to no you know going to no fights together no things like that yeah yeah it was different these guys different now these guys cool for the most part yeah Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, come to Vegas and I see guys at the fight, especially, you know,

once the season's over, but you see all you see 30, 40, 50 football players. Yeah. And they, for the most part, they're cool. And I like that. I'm cool with that. Yeah. But, oh, we cool off, but on the field. Yeah. I got something for that. Yeah. But, oh, we cool off, but on the field?

Yeah. I got something for you. Every time. I got your address. Oh, yeah, for sure. I'm going to make sure this package will be there right on time, like Amazon. Yeah. Oh, hey.

Oh, I'm going to give it to you plus shipping and handling because I got to make sure you get it. You know what I'm saying? Out of the way. Out of the way. It got lost. No, I put that direct address on it and I paid for early delivery. I wanted it there

by 1030. So that way when it came to 2 o'clock, I had something for you. You're going to get it. Big news of the week. Former UNLV starting quarterback Matthew Saluka left the team because the university failed to make good on a promised payment of $100,000, according to his father and agent.

Saluka announced that he would be using his redshirt year and leaving the program because of representation that was made to him, which was not upheld after Iron Row. This comes after he led UNLV to their first 3-0 start. If I'm not mistaken, I think Randall Cunningham was the quarterback the last time they had a 3-1 start. Randall also was the quarterback at UNLV, and he also was the partner. I think Randall was like one of the top partners in the nation.

You can check me out on that, Ash. But I think Randall was the quarterback at UNLV when they started 3-0. Man, they should have paid. They should have paid, should have paid buddy man yeah you can't go in there promising something and then don't stick to your promise

matter of fact he tripping anyway if they promise you 100k they should have at least dropped they paid him 3000 on the 100k that's it man

let me get half don't play with me I know you got boosters. UNLV, Vegas. Yeah. Man, let me get, man. Throw me, throw,

wire me 50,000 before I even think about coming here. And if I don't come, I'll send your money back. And give me the rest of the money before the season starts. And we 3-0 now,

and I'm one of the reasons why we 3-0, and you still playing my money? Man, run cash man stop playing with me yeah man who hold on who want to be on the job you don't promise me man you hey you don't promise me it's like oh oh no i'm surprised look i'm surprised more that haven't happened to more players i mean you hear some players that have transferred because what was promised wasn't delivered and so they leave and you know I heard they were trying to work it out I don't know how

true that is Ocho trying to get him some money but I don't know if that's going to be enough some yeah I need 50 I need 50 another 6 games. Matter of fact,

put inches on it too. Oh, yeah. Yeah, put inches on it too. Stop playing on me, man. Stop playing on my top. Yeah, but y'all need to pay the man. Y'all done promised the man that. Y'all told him if he enroll,

y'all give him 100 bands. Give him that. Especially if he got it in the writing. If you got it in the writing, oh, you good. Yeah. I need all that was that was Randall the starting quarterback in 84

because Randall if I'm not mistaken Randall came out in 85 he's the second round pick in 85 went to Philly oh oh somebody oh somebody you know what would Ash do this right here

what happened who's the quarterback Ash Randall Cunningham you got it right hey somebody you know when I be saying stuff like this people actually think i have it on my pad they don't realize i just be y'all do realize that i'm 56 and stuff that happened in the 80s and 90s yeah i'm old enough to remember i remember too now

so hey man they be done google that stuff all that track and field no they don't when i'm having a conversation with with with michael johnson and norman and all those right i remember those when i had i just did the interview with with uh ronnie coleman bodybuilding bro do y'all know i mean clearly they didn't know but i used to go to all the shows oh jocho. I went to the Olympia. I go to the Arnold Classic. I went to the NPCs. I went to the Chicago Pro Show. I used to go all the time. You know, Phil be watching this now.

Phil Heath? Yeah, but Phil be locked in now. Phil be locked in. But I didn't see Phil compete. But guys like Flex, Ronnie, Chris Cormier uh all those guys sean ray i grew i grew you know with with those guys and seeing those guys paul delet um so uh i mean like like i said i'm i love sports i love sports i love talking about sports and

there's not a whole lot of sports you, from sumo wrestling to bull riding. I'm brushing up on my Formula One. Obviously, I know who Max Verstappen is, and I know who Hamilton is. And I know Lewis is leaving a Mercedes, I think at the end of this year, going back to Ferrari. And the Red Bull team,

it's, oh, he killing. But, no, there's nothing. But, like I said, I played with Randall. You know, I was with Randall in Baltimore. Randall's a great guy. His daughter, his daughter is a high jumper. High jumper, yeah. Bad state.

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It won't be a secret, but we're not trying to pull the wool over anybody's eyes. Just want to give Quinn every opportunity to see if he's ready to play and what he looks like. Ocho, what you got? I mean, listen, if Quinn is ready to go, you know, if he's not healthy, if he's not 100%, no, don't, don't. I wouldn't risk it. We still have a long season to go

in the number one spot i would let i would let little little manning little manning play one more game all right let little arts play one more game and make sure quinn is ready to go the following week no no need to risk injury no need to risk further injury no need to risk another setback you know you guys have this in texas have something special right now they got something special right now you you're challenging alabama and maybe georgia you know winning that national championship don't don't play especially not at the quarterback position do not play after 16 years in the nba former mvp point guard derrick rose is retiring from the league. The number one overall pick

in 2008 NBA draft, the Chicago native Simeon High School made his mark for seven years with his hometown team. From rookie of the year to all-star to the youngest MVP in league history, the first three years of Rose's career was unmatched lifting Chicago to his best season

since Jordan. His 36 point playoff debut in 2009 was electric as he took the defending champs, Boston Celtics, to a seven-game thrilling first-round series. Ocho, what do you look when someone asks you five years, 10 years from now, what is D. Rose's legacy? What are you going to say?

Listen, one of the greatest to ever play this game. One of the most explosive, one of the most entertaining players I've ever seen. Ever. You know? Before injury. We talk about box office. On CTV. Before the injuries.

Man, stop playing. And you know, I don't even watch basketball like that until we started the show. So I'd be able to talk about it. So if I know, if I know prime D rolls before the injury and I only watch the game, I would tune it in just to see buddy play when John Maron play on before we started doing the show I was watching because of the certain level of excitement that those individuals bring to the game he was that athletic he was that first true athletic I'm talking about that could play above the rim

you got that later with Russ you got that later with John Moran but D. Rose could play above the rim the spin the up and under You got that later with John Morant. But D. Rose could play above the rim. Yeah. The spin, the up and under. Yeah. The being able to finish. He was special.

I'm going to look back and say, man, what could have been? What could have been, Ocho? Yeah. Without the injuries? What could have been without the injuries? Yeah. I mean, the youngest MVP, but those injuries robbed him of his explosiveness.

And he did an unbelievable job playing more, but to hear the stories of what it took for him to get back, just to get back, and just what it took for him just to go play the game, the two hours, the three hours of getting ready just to go play a game. Every 82. I'm happy that he was able to play as long as he did. He won an MVP. He's the youngest MVP. But you always stay back like, damn.

What could have been? How good, how special could he have been? Well, how do basketball enthusiasts, because he wasn't able to win a title, what do they rank him as when it comes to the great players that have played this game? Well, I think, look, title what do they rank him as is is when it comes to the great player that have played this game well i think i don't look he was he was of his generation but i think when you go back and look at it i don't i don't think they're gonna you know is he a top 50 player no there's too many

there's too many guys in front of him could have been absolutely right absolutely absolutely um like i said he he was that guy that brought in that athletic point guard. The Russell Westbrooks. The Ja Morant. Right. Guys that could play above the rim. Because before that, all the guys that just passed the ball. Now, Kevin Johnson could play above the rim. I don't know if you

remember KJ playing with the Phoenix Suns. Playing with the Suns. Yeah, yeah, yeah. KJ. Now, KJ had ups. KJ, KJ ups KJ had some crazy ups I remember he dunked on Dream but with that D-Rose when he put it behind his head

and dunked on Steve Nash I don't know what was Nash was thinking I don't know what he was thinking but he should have never never ever left he was thinking but he should have he should have he should have never never never ever left his feet on that we should have just when he dunked it just got the ball take it out of bounds and bring it back yeah that was droggett oh that was uh that was droggett not wasn't that it was there uh

goran droggett that he dunked on oh yeah, yeah, I definitely don't know what he was thinking. Oh, he thought he was going to block it? Nah, absolutely not. And because, did he forget that he forgot that Derrick Rose is a two-foot jumper? Mm-hmm. So he's like Dominique Wilkins. He jumps off both feet. You can't let him stop like that. You can't let him...

Oh, no. I don't know what he was thinking. He'd have lost all his mind. Man, him and Rush got bounced out of this world not to be that tall. What you think about Ja? Oh, Ja, man, listen. Man, having

watched him in person several times. Man, that little man, that joker got I mean, that joker, like, he got springs in his feet. They play different. Yeah, man. They play different. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Very explosive, you know, taking people off the dribble. Man, I'm just, man. Nasty, nasty work. I saw KJ a couple of weeks kevin johnson a couple of weeks ago uh rob palenka said lebron james was trash talking bronnie there we go let's take a listen to what rob had to say about this scrimmage about this practice maybe the challenges on on bronnie when like in our pickup game i think it was yesterday or two days ago he got switched on to lebron and lebron took him baseline and up and under off the glass.

And the words exchanged afterwards were probably more challenging than anything else. What if LeBron hit a baseline jump on a hitter jumper? I'm like, you can't F with me. Yeah, I mean, that's what's going to happen. You know, all is fair. Oh, I'm sorry, Dan. Oh, I mean, I'm sorry, LeBron.

Listen, all is fair in love and war especially once once you touch that court i'll bet you're not you're not my son once we taught that once we know i'm talking about brony oh brony oh man he finna get that work every time he's a man brony finna get that work every time you know braun don't play but once you touch once you touch that hardwood son or, you finna get that work every time. You know, Bron don't play. But once you touch that hardwood, son of a nut, you finna get that work. You know? I definitely dunked him. Oh, yeah, for sure. Man, I could imagine, man.

I was going to dunk on my brother had he not moved out of the way. In a pickup game, I definitely was. Letting it fly, huh? What? Yeah. But he was smart enough to realize, nah. Got it fly. What? Yeah. But he was smart. He was smart enough to realize, nah.

Got out of the way. Yeah. I think that's going to be... I mean, can you imagine, Ochoa? Just imagine you playing football. Right.

You a wide receiver and your son a DB. Hmm. Or you a DB and your son a wide receiver. That's dope. You an offensive lineman and your son a defensive lineman.

Ooh, that's dope. And the funny thing... I don't know if it's possible in the NFL. No, it's a difficult feat. It's a difficult... You could probably do it... Obviously, you could do it in basketball. Yeah.

Because LeBron, this is the first time. You could do it in baseball. We saw Griffey Sr. and Griffey Jr. You can do it in hockey. The Hulls. Brett and Bobby. Yeah. But not football.

It's two-fifths. You can't last long. I mean, to last 24 years. I mean, LeBron, hell no. And like I said, you have to have a kid early on. Early enough.

And the thing with football, you got to go at least three years. Baseball, unless you come out in the draft, the thing was, Griffey was the number one overall pick. Right. And he didn't spend

a whole lot of time in the minors. So, poof, he rattled up. And maybe if he'd have spent an extra time in the minors, it would have never happened. But I think the Rangers, they released him

so he'd have an opportunity to play with his son with the Mariners. That's right. Because I think that's kind of how it happened. It wasn't like his dad was already on the Mariners. I think he got released or something like that.

I think it was the Rangers that did it. I remember having a conversation with Griffey a couple years ago. I think that's what happened. Every time you mention baseball, I always think about my days when I was with the Marlins in 97 that's what happened the Rangers

I think they traded him to the Mariners or they released him so he could go sign or something like that but it was a way to go now it's time for one of our favorite segments of the day Q&A Q&A what time is it

almost 10 o'clock my flight 6 in the morning I gotta wake this one up pack her stuff man it's hell over here boy Brandon the Holloman said I've been waiting

on y'all since Tuesday your own words two things can be true Joby played well against Washington and he lost DeBron played well in the 18 finals when he dropped 50, dropped 51. And yes, no, we're surprised.

Ocho, what do you think? Shout out Dublin, Georgia. What up? Lawrence County. That's what's up. Right on 16, I used to stop at McDonald's in Dublin. And the VA hospital is also in Dublin. My grandfather was in the military, and so he always went to the VA hospital in Dublin.

And so we would always stop in Dublin at that McDonald's right there. That was also a drop-off point. Me and my son's mom, she would drive him halfway. She'd drive to Dublin. I would drive to pick him up and bring him home bring him to my grandmother's house where my mom was in town if she didn't stop in and pick him up so yes Brandon two things can be true

did play well in the 18 finals but boy I sure wish JR because I I hate it Brandon let me tell you why I hate it because we robbed of that great moment um JR lost track of the time he thought they had a lead oh this this moment we went like this yeah

okay yeah and he didn't shoot the basketball but yeah two things can absolutely be true um I think the difference is is like lebron i don't know if lebron could have played any better than what he played um but at the end like the quarterback position is like the red zone was the only issues that i had is that they went two for four and the other team went three for three and you understand in situations like that that how the game is going to shape out you're're like, damn. Man, they just went down. That's a rookie.

And they just went down there with ease and scored on us. Like, okay. Damn, he didn't. Uh-oh. I got to get on my horse now. Yeah. Kicking field goals is not going to be enough because you see that your defense isn't holding up the par. Yeah.

But you know what, Brandon? You're absolutely right. Bron did play well par. But you know what, Brandon? You're absolutely right. Bron did play well enough, but you know what? Just didn't get it done. Damn! Not that we was going to win that game. That was just one game. They weren't going to win the series. They were not beating Golden State.

Even if they won game one, they weren't beating them three more times. Yeah, it's very disappointing. I saw that spoon, Teresaa witherspoon she was a wmba player unbelievable player uh she got uh she got terminated today from chicago sky i don't understand that decision i don't know what they were expecting um angel got got got injured uh late in the season uh you know look i I think it's a blessing and a curse because, you know, sometimes you look at,

well, Kaitlin Clark got a team pro. That's different. You can't judge your team's success by somebody else's success. I can't look at me and say, well, because such and such did this, I'm a failure. Their success is not indicative, is not reflective on me, Ocho.

Not at all. I mean, like, damn, man, Gronk was better than you. Okay, Gronk is better than me. Kelsey, whomever you say, but it doesn't minimize what I've done. You're right. I don't get

that decision. I don't understand it. I thought she was doing a great job. One year, I don't know what they expected. Did y'all expect them to be the number one seed, to beat the Aces, beat the Liberty? I mean, I don't really know what you were expecting. What was the expectation when you gave her the job this year? What was the expectations?

And I can assure you, she would have not left the New orleans pelicans in her role if she knew she was only going to get one year to try to turn this thing around yes that's messed up that's messed up so it is uh i don't get it uh sheldon pope you think the aces will win another time a ring this year it's gonna be tough because they've got to go through the Liberty. The Liberty was the best team. They got a nice squad. They got John Quayle Jones.

They got Stewie. We know what Stewie, Stewie might be the most accomplished collegiate woman's basketball player in the history of the game. She won four national championships, Ocho. She was four times most outstanding player. She was a multiple time national player of the year. She's won two league MVPs. She's finals MVP.

She's won two gold medals, I think, now. So she's one of the more accomplished. She might be the most accomplished collegiate women player when you look at the totality of what she's been able to do. And you got Jonquil Jones, who is a former MVP. You got Inescu who's who scored 39 36 the other night uh the road is a lot more difficult i just saw uh collier uh naficia just hit 42 right they got the work cut out for but they got the team chelsea seems to be getting

back i just wish chelsea great uh the point god I just wish she was totally healthy seemed like she's rounding her way back in because she came in late when I saw her I saw her right before they got ready to take off for the Olympics and hopefully because she's going to be the key Asia's going to be Asia yeah KP Kelsey Plum

is going to be Kelsey Plum Jackie Young but they need Chelsea they need Chelsea to give them that 12 to 15, 9, 10 dimes, and I think they'll be fine. But, you know, I think if she is – if Chelsea can be consistent. Right. Because she can ball. Don't let her play at the Olympics.

Don't let that be the impression that you think she is. Yeah. It's hard to get a rhythm because you try to play everybody. She was just coming back off a major injury because she missed almost half the WNBA season. And to get her rhythm back. Now, next year, I expect to see the Chelsea Gray that

I saw the previous year. That's what I expect to see. But Asia, she's going to be sensational. She's going to give you what she normally does 25 to 30, 10 to 13 rebounds. The assist, the steals, the block shots.

The question is, can they make enough threes? KP, they got to do a great job over there. That's cool because she can let the three. They got two bigs. They got to keep John Quill and Stewie off the glass. But I'm excited. I'm excited to see this matchup. I'm excited to see this matchup.

Dippington McGee. What's up, Uncle Dojo? I was wondering if you guys had a favorite play or route to run. Thank you guys for many hours of entertainment. Ocho, what was your favorite route? Shoot. I write. I'm on the left.

Ocho was the X receiver. I was the X. Anything bump and run. Slant, hitches. Well, you know hitches can burn to fades. Dig routes, curls. I didn't even care. I didn't even care.

My favorite is, I hate, I mean, office is easy, but I had such a level of comfort in man-to-man. I used to come out the huddle on sometimes. It used to be so funny. I had no mouthpiece, and I'd call the dude up. I'd be motioning for him, man, come up here and play press. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about whatever defense y'all in.

Just come on up here and press. The route combination don't know. I just, the right, the route combination matter. I prefer to be by myself. Even if they doubled, I didn't really care,

but I probably call more flanker drives to jet flanker drive. Uh, X come back. I probably caught that route more. Maybe the stick. Right. Um, I love tiger Far Cross.

Solo Right. Tiger Far Cross. I mean, look, I like getting down the field. Yeah. All that little short fishing. I was a deep sea fisherman. All that little short fishing, but all that little short stuff. That shallow cross. That's fine.

I caught a bunch of shallow crosses. Little stick route with the defense called Yogi's. I caught that. Man, send me down the field. Let me get to the scenes. Let me get to the far cross. Let me get that seven. That corner route? Yeah. Now, I did like when they call X open, they call, you know,

they call, you know, Y skinny. Woo. Yeah, I did all that, Why Skinny. Woo. Yeah, I did all that, don't you? Yeah. Oh, I run the comeback, run the dig, run the dagger. Yeah, I did all that. Yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah. I seen you. I seen you.

I seen you. Yeah. Over the days. Man, I don't even know I could run. I probably couldn't run. I probably couldn't run 10 yards. I ain't lying. I couldn't. I ain't lying.

I ain't in no hurry. You're effing slow. I like it. You like that grocery store going somewhere. They move it. They close it. They gonna be right there. Yeah. Armand Farouk. Hey, Shay

and Ocho, Chad. Chad Johnson, she'll be on ESPN. Oh, I'll be there in a minute. Hold your horses, baby. Yeah, I'm like... I mean, they're the same person, so... Hold your horses. I'm like... I mean, they're the same person. So... But I guess I get what you said.

I'm coming. Just give me a minute. I'll be there. I got this. You got the chat. Y'all got to understand. Actually, y'all think I be playing. I got 37, 38, 11 jobs. Like, literally. You got a bunch of them. I got a lot of them.

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For sure. Yeah. Don't worry about it the same results gonna happen but it might be it's going down every time

yeah that is I mean you know the thing is that I like that what you like I like what you like doing you're like I do whatever well hey

do what you do yeah you You're like, I do what else? Well, hey, do what you do. Yeah. You know what I love with it? We should have pulled it up. Because the guy was saying, well, I sent you the story. We're going to pull it on Sunday. I'm going to send it to Ashley. We'll have it loaded up about the guy saying that when you fly a girl out,

you take her on vacation. Save it. Save that. Save that. That's a good one. That's a good one, that one. Oh, that's a good one. PV Farms said,

would y'all rather erase your worst memory or relive the best one? Big shout out to y'all. Oh, erase my worst one. Damn that. Erase the worst one. Absolutely. Hell yeah. Bro, people don't... Erase the worst one. Absolutely. Hell yeah. Bro, people don't believe when I say this, Ocho.

The losses hurt more than the wins feel good. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, I won three Super Bowls. The three Super Bowls that I won still does not bring

the kind of pain and disappointment and sadness and anguish like losing to Jacksonville in the division round of playoffs. And I won three Super Bowls. I won 12 playoff games in a row. Y'all lost to Mark Brunel, huh? We did. Jimmy and

Keenan, Natron Means. Fred T? Or Fred T? No, Natron was there. Fred T came later, yeah. I played against Fred T, yeah but fred wasn't there natron means was running back there okay well them boy was nice boy oh they were and that's why when i heard shaq shaq khan the owner say this is the most talented jacksonville i said man you watch your mind that is that team that you got ain't even close It ain't close to none of those teams. From like 95, 96 to like 2001. Not even close.

Their most talented? Yes. At what position? None. None. None. None. You damn sure ain't good at the receivers. Do they realize how good

Jimmy and Keenan was? I don't think. They probably don't. They probably don't. Okay. And then you had Baseli. What line were you got? Baseli's in the Hall of Fame. Had he not got injured, I don't know if people realize how good Baseli was. Yeah, Tony Baseli

was nice, bro. He was nice. Y'all don't know what I'm racing. Get out of here. Y'all don't know what I'm racing. Get out of here. They tell me, we know what Uncle racing. Y'all don't know nothing. But y'all close. Tion said, who's going to have a better game, Hurts or Stroud?

Where is this game being played? In Philly or Houston? Tion said who's going to have a better game, Hurts or Stroud? Where is this game being played? In Philly or Houston? That's going to be a good one. Listen, Stroud will have a good game, but they can run a goddamn ball. That goddamn Jalen Carter showed up last week, boy. I don't know what the hell he ate before that game. My goodness, boy.

He was disruptive. If him and Jordan Davis get on the same page and figure it out right now, man, stop playing. He's saying who's going to have the better game. He's saying who's going to have the better game. They're not playing. But who do you think? Who does Texas play?

Okay, the Texans play the Jags right oh and the eagles at home i got i got to take oh i'm taking cj stroud yeah i got it i got it back yeah i'm taking stroud boy jacksonville a the uh jack Jacksonville, what's the guy that D-Liver that they took out of University of Georgia, number one overall? They're probably kicking themselves because Aiden Hutchinson, he been kicking ass. Aiden Hutchinson, balling, boy.

Yeah, Walker. Is it Kayvon Walker? No. Trayvon. Trayvon Walker, yeah, yeah, yeah. Trayvon. Ocho, a lot of times you have to be careful because when you look at all those other first-round picks and the guy just flashed when he's only playing 20 plays a game, now you're asking him to play 40 plays, 50 plays.

Right. Can he hold up? Mm. So you got Jordan Davis. You got the D lineman that went to Green Bay number one. You got N'Kobe Dean and all those guys. And so you're like, okay, bro, he ain't cutting it right now. It's still early, but hey, he need to do, he got to come on with it now.

It's time. It's time to show up. OKT, Ocho, what's your best memory with Chris Henry on or off the field? Oh, man. My best memory off the field? Honestly, my best memory with Chris Henry ain't even on the field. It's training camp doing Ustream. I'm sure y'all could probably still pull that up.

Man, me and Chris used to be on Ustream in training camp in a little dorm room we used to be in georgetown man that's one of my best memories man but that's one of the few times i heard chris talk chris don't really talk you know he was quiet man chris was really quiet man that's one of one of my favorite memories man is i know there has to be i don't know if y'all remember ustream. I used to Ustream back in the day, which would be equivalent to like going live on Instagrams. And, oh man, I used to remember me and Chris used to sit there and stream on Ustream, and that was so dope. And that was so dope. I wonder if I could probably find the videos again. I mean, if anybody

in the chat can find those old videos, man, just post it to me on Twitter or maybe on my DM or Instagrams so i can see it again because i haven't seen it since then no one that's one of my favorite memories man damn stacks 448 say hey uncle no joke can you shout out my girlfriend lily she's a senior at g dub handling her biz she's also a choreographer can you wish her luck on her future endeavors? Also shout out Ocho. We're birthday twins.

Lily, your boyfriend Stacks448, he wants to give you a shout out. That's it. Nothing more, just a shout out because he's proud of you. He said you handle your business at G-Dub. I'm assuming that's George Washington. And she says you're also a choreographer. So hopefully whatever you have planned in your future, hopefully it works out, and hopefully, Stax, you stay beside her.

You stand by her side and let her know she's always got somebody in her corner. So, Lily, from Uncle Nocho at Nightcap, congratulations. Giving you a shout-out. All the best moving forward. Yes, sir. Desire Thompson said, can you tell my fiance happy birthday, Devontae? Congratulations. Give me your shout out. All the best moving forward. Yes, sir. Decide Thompson. Say, can you tell my fiance? Happy birthday, Devante.

Devante, your fiance says happy birthday. She's proud of you. And hopefully you guys have many, many more birthdays to share together. Let this be the let this be the final one that you guys are not a couple, that you're not a union, that you're not man and wife, husband and wife. So I'm proud of you guys. Much love, much success and keep us updated when the nuptials take place.

Chop it up, Witty. I think Nightcap live stream of you and Ocho give it live commentary while watching NFL games would go crazy. Would y'all do it? I don't really like talking with the game on. I'll be talking. I'll be going crazy.

I curse you damn much, man. That's why I don't be cursing, but I'll be. Y'all know my patience. I couldn't do no play by play. They had me in the goddamn booth man man the fuck y'all oh shoot my bad I couldn't do no play by play yeah we could do it

I think there was like a couple of some opportunities but the right opportunity needs to come right opportunity comes I think that's something we'll throw our hat into hey can you imagine me you me you calling the game on c no i don't want to call no game no hell no i just want to be watching because because you got to study i ain't trying to do no film study

i got enough on my plate right right with 40 with four shows of this taping one to two shows of club shake shake and and first date. And taking meetings. Well, Ash take a lot of the meetings, but she gives me a synopsis, a summary. No. So I do. I be watching the game on mute. I do.

I do. I don't. Everybody hate it. But I watch TV like that. Ash come over here, Can we watch this out? I was like, well, I'm going upstairs. You have TV in the entertainment room. I'm going upstairs because I don't want to hear it.

Man, guys, we want to thank you so much for joining us tonight. Thanks for staying up. I know the game wasn't the greatest. But, you know, I mean, but look, it's a game. I mean, it's football. It's NFL football. I know we wanted it to be entertaining and, you know, scored.

But, hey, the Cowboys win 20 to 15 over the Giants, move to 2 and 2. The Giants fall to one and three. Now they have 10 days off to regroup any injury, any bumps and bruises. You got some extra time off. So they'll probably have Friday, Saturday, Sunday off,

come in Monday, get some treatment, get some running in Ocho. You get Tuesday off and then you're right back at it on Wednesday. Oh yeah. So congratulations to the Dallas Cowboys. They win 2015 over the Giants. Guys, thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.

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