Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Juvenile stops by, Jayden Daniels, Pacman Jones

Episode Date: February 9, 2025

From Radio Row and the Mahalia Jackson Theater in New Orleans, Unc and Ocho recap the Best moments from Super Bowl Week. Top stories include New Orleans native and rap legend Juvenile stops by, Washington Commanders QB and ROTY Jayden Daniels joins the guys on Radio Row, Adam "Pacman" Jones weighs in on the Eagles vs. Chiefs and much more!03:48 - Would y’all want Juvenile to collab with Ocho?11:00 - Jayden Daniels joins the show19:11 - Greg Olsen breaks down his approach to color commentary24:42 - Unc and Ocho grant some wisdom to Michael Pittman Jr.28:19 - Jalen Milroe joins the show31:00 - Pacman looks ahead at the Super Bowl matchup33:42 - Shawne Merriman predicts the Super Bowl is going to come down to the trenches39:15 - Ocho and James Harrison are gonna fight? Joey Porter tries to keep the peace54:00 - Fred Warner joins the show1:01:00 - Ocho is joined by some Bengals—Ted Karras and Alex Cappa1:06:00 - Denzel Ward discuss Browns, matchups, and more(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Tell me where you came when you come up with these songs, because they're timeless. You come on now and everybody hit the dance floor. 20 plus years later, after you came out with this, when you hear those and you hear people talk about it, I know when they see you in the airport and they see you on the street, they talk about 400 degrees. Yeah.

Oh, man. It's just crazy, man. You know, I get some ill stories sometimes when I bump into people. You know, and one of the main things I get from some of the people, they say, man, you raised me. Like, man, I don't know your mama, man. Yeah, bro, you got me through some hard times, you know, and, you know, I tell

them all the time when I see them, I say, hey, man, I'm glad I could be of service to you, man. But 400 Degrees, just like it is in New Orleans for a lot of people, they say, man, it was an inspiration for me to do something in life. So glad to be there for them. Listen, Cash Money, bro. Cash Money Records, bro, was a powerhouse in the 90s and 2000s, bro. We grew up on that. Shit, you raised me.

You know, when I think about it. I'm just being honest. Man, what is it like being a part of such a revolutionary label, bro? It's crazy, man. You know, we was in the studio making them songs. You know, we didn't see ourselves being, I know I didn't,

I didn't see ourselves being, you know, around this long, 20 plus years. And man, it's one of them situations where you see your little bros popping off. You know, you had your shine and then you see Wayne pop off, you see B little bros popping off. You know, you had your shine, and then you see Wayne pop off, you see BG pop off, and it's like, damn, man, we really made it.

You know, and now the city's still showing love, man. Yes. Yeah. When you were in the studio, did you know at the time what you guys were doing did you think it was like man these are classic these are gonna stand the test of time and probably did you ever think that's a two-part question obviously when you have that and everybody can stand their own did you think you guys like damn we probably ain't gonna be together much longer because we a each guy can stand on his own and yeah we doing this together but this ain't going to be together much longer. Because each guy can stand on his own. And yeah, we doing this together, but this ain't going to last much longer.

When we got together, man, you know, Cash Money did an overhaul. They had a lot of artists on the label. And then, you know, when I got there, the first thing they told me is, it's going to be you, you know, it's you, Turk, BG, and Wayne. So when we started hitting them studios and we started making them songs, we had no idea of, you know, what the people, what the reaction would be.

But when we started doing them tools and that money started coming in, you know what I'm saying? The cash money rough rider tool and stuff like that. Yeah, I started seeing a little, you know, a few things. Then I started saying, well, man, I started seeing a few things. Then I started saying, well, man, I hope everybody getting paid right.

I started worrying about my money too. Right. Who are your biggest inspirations when you were coming up? And who inspires you now? So when you was coming up, before you started popping off? So when you was coming up before you started popping off and y'all was born, who inspired you, especially from your own culture? Good question, man.

I listen to everybody. I was one of them cats that liked to listen to hip-hop, period. But my main influence was Ice Cube. Ice Cube. Ice Cube was that guy for me. You know, when N.W.A. came out, Gangsta Gangsta,

and everybody from the city could tell you, when Gangsta Gangsta came out, that changed the way everything in New Orleans, everything, homie. I mean, and Ice Cube was always that dude for me. Who inspires you right now that's in the game? Somebody that you look at and be like, you know what, that he the one, he one of them. Man, I got a few of them right now. It's this guy sitting next to you, man. I'm inspired by him, the transition.

You know, I'm in the transition of my life where I'm getting ready to do a podcast. You know, I see how y'all, I see how you're picking up all these awards. And I'm inspired by that, man. And my other inspiration is E-40. You know, the way that he took the rap game and started branding himself. I see you with your LaPortier.

I got my yak. Everybody down here knows I'm branding myself all the time. I got juvie juice. I got chips. I got papers. You know what I'm saying? I got a few things. And my inspiration right now probably wouldn't be somebody that's in the rap game right now.

It's cats that was around back in my day. Being an entrepreneur. Let me ask you this. Weezy was the youngest. Did you know that he was going to grow up to do what he's become? We did, bro. If you listen to Bling Bling, you hear Birdman sing, in the year 2000, the way I'm going to tear the game up.

That's how we felt. We always knew you know, Wayne mom, you know, Wayne mom wouldn't let them curse. So we had to water it down. We had to like, he used to come in there with some songs and like, I said, bro, you can't say that, bro. The kids

like me, bro, you can't say that. So we knew then some of the stuff he was saying then like, damn, bro, when you take the cuffs off, god damn, he going, yeah. I mean, when he came up with bling bling. Say that again? Bling bling. Yeah.

Did y'all know that was going to be an anthem? Because everybody started talking, hey, bro, you need that bling. Wayne was making so many sound effects. You know, that was his trick, too. You know, I come in the studio talking stupid. Like, look, I'm about to, man, I don't care what you got. I'm about to mess over you. Wayne come back with sound effects. You know, that was his trick too, you know. I'd come in the studio talking stupid, like, look, I'm about to, man, I don't care what you got, I'm about to mess over you. Wayne come back with sound effects. Brr, bop, in.

So Wayne was always the one to kill me on the song, man. But yeah, man, I didn't know bling bling was going to be something, especially not a word in the dictionary. Wayne was always creative, bro, beyond. I can't explain it, bro. I can't explain it.

In the beginning, dude used to have me laughing. The fact that he was so young and he was like an adult in a kid body. Some of the things he knew, I'm like, bro, how the hell you knew that? Amazing, bro. Real smart, too. Real smart, too. Real smart, too. Real book smart, too. Yeah.

If there was an artist right now that you could collaborate outside of me. You can spit like that, though. Oh, yeah. I can rap. Yeah, I spit like that. Yeah. You got rhymes, though. Yeah.

You want to hear it? No? Well, forget y'all. Anyway, if there was an artist you could collab with today, who would it be? Right off the top. Yeah, just off the top. Somebody that's active right now. It's Glorilla for a whole bunch of reasons.

That's a good one. That's a good one. For a whole bunch of reasons, too. I just feel like Glorilla fit that whole hot girl thing that I've been talking about, that we was talking about years ago. You know, I'm from the projects. She just feel like somebody from the hood. Oh, you say Glorilla? Yeah, Glorilla. Oh yeah, Glorilla.

Let her cook. We're joined by a very, very special guest. He and his mom they're promoting Invisalign. They both did the treatment. Jayden Daniels, who's going to be the runaway rookie of the year after an outstanding season. He did something very, very unique that very few rookies have ever done. He's led his team to two road playoff wins as the de facto leader. He wasn't relying on his defense.

They put a lot on his plate and he ate everything. I expect to see big things from this young man in the future. Congratulations on a great season, Jaden. Tell us about the treatment that you and your mom did with Invisalign. Man, I mean, the main thing for me, you know, is appearance. You got to have your smile. Okay. You have them on now, right?

I do have them on right now. Okay. I do have them on right now. But for me, I mean, I have braces and stuff like that. So it wasn't, my teeth were always straight. It was like, man, let me enhance this more. Right. So, I mean, just to partner with Invisalign, man,

the appearance is everything. Everybody look at your teeth. Everybody look at your smile. First thing they notice, bro. You know, that's how you get that money. I have a question. I want to transition into football. Do you understand how special what you've done for an organization that has had chaos, turmoil, and they haven't been at the depths or the bottom of the NFL,

but they've always been in situations that weren't in favor of them in general. You understand you turned the organization around in one season. There's been no maturation. There hasn't been no steady progress or progression to them turning things around. You came in in one year and literally turned the franchise around. Yeah, I think. Do you understand that? I think I'm kind of getting the grasp of that.

I didn't know how. This is real talk. I didn't know how passionate Washington fan base was. Like me growing up because you never seen like them at the top. You seen like the RG3 years and stuff like that. But when I really got there, I was like,

when I got drafted, people were like, man, I'm a Washington fan. I was like, I ain't never like heard nobody say that. Right, right, right, right.

But now I'm excited to see everybody, DMV, everybody around the world, you know, bringing out their Washington stuff, going out there,

grabbing out the basement and hanging the flags up and everything. So they excited. Like watching you play. And if you're a fan, if you're a Commanders fan, you understand with a quarterback like yourself, what you were able to do in a rookie year

where there hasn't been no room for development. You know, most days you wait for rookies to develop, you know? And then, you know, you see you have a chance. But you give a team hope for the next decade based off your play this season. And I commend you. I salute you been a fan for a very long time man but what you've done was special and not very many quarterbacks

especially as a rookie have been able to come in and do what you've done when you look at what you've done the expectations now you have to improve and build on what you've done you can't become complacent for sure because you understand what is expected of you now only because they're talking about man this, this guy, who's to say he's not a top five quarterback as we sit here and speak currently. What does Jaden Daniels need to do to improve to make sure this year wasn't a fluke? Man, I just think, like you said, don't get complacent.

And I think the veterans that I have, like one person I really lean on a lot is Bobby Wagner. Okay, he wags. So that's my guy, man. We have conversations. He just teaches me little things. I remember like, shout out to him. I remember like we played a couple games at Rogue and we'd get back late.

You know, you're tired and everything. And he put me aside like, man, let's go get in these tubs. So we were out there like 3 o'clock in the morning. Wow. Making sure your body's back, right? But just little stuff like that is like never thinking

that you know too much. There's always room to grow. So, I mean, outside you always get better technically and stuff like that. It's a blessing I get to be in the system that I was with Cliff

another year. Yes. So I can improve on that within that system. But just learning how to be a pro, you know, it's my first full offseason.

So I was like, okay, I got to figure out how to schedule it like this. What I'm going to do is my ramp-up period, OTA, stuff like that, and just always have the hunger to get better. How do you block out the noise? Because obviously there's going to be a lot that comes along with what you've been able to do. You're a quarterback in the NFL. We know what comes along with the most important position

in all of pro sports. So now the endorsements are going to come. Now more fame, more adulation, more praise. Everybody, hey, Cub, what's up? Everybody is a friend now. Everybody is a family member now. And as your mom says, she's like, look, I know the women are coming, but I am.

Hey, my son got a hybrid pose. I got one too. I'm still farming them all out the way. How do you keep a level head and to understand that, yes, I understand what comes along with me and Jaden Daniels, but I don't get outside of who I am. I just think it comes, like you said, support system, mom, dad, like friends, family.

Everybody knows me for me, and it's not here. Like, okay, let me ride his coattail and stuff like that. So that's a big part. But also, it's a time to play for everything. It's going to be a time to have fun. Right. It's going to be a time to go out there and party,

you know, make some money, do this, that, and the third. But the main thing, man, none of this happens if you don't ball on the field. Right. So that's the main thing.

Like, how do I get better to continue the success and knowing, like, all right, first year is that. Like, everybody's going to have a full offseason to watch a film

for year two. So, like, man, I got to improve on different things and get better myself. Listen, though, when you talk about that improvement, right, you guys were able to make the NFC Championship. What pieces to the puzzle do you think you guys need to add to make your job a little easier? So, the bulk or the weight of getting things done

isn't always on your shoulders. Yeah, man, I think for us, it's like, if you look at it, I think I've seen some, we got like 20-some free agents on the team. So, I mean, we got to bring some people back. We got to bring some people back. So, I think overall just in general, man, we got to get

some people in. We got to bring people back. But I focus on my job, man. My job is to get better. Whoever they bring in, we hone them to the standard that we set with DQ and let the front office do what they do. Now, I have a question. When we talk about letting the front office do what they do, I know it's very

early in your career. Do you think you would have any say on who you bring in, especially from an offensive perspective, to be able to help you out? I don't know yet. I think when that time comes, we'll see if they call me. But I don't know, man. They're doing their job. I'll tell them, man, let's bring some dogs in. But I'm right here.

If you need a dog, I'll let you play. When I look, go back and look at this NFC Championship game, Dane, you guys have played well. And the one thing that you hadn't done until the championship game was turn the ball over. And you know, I'm sure DQ and Wags have told you, if you turn the ball over in the playoffs, you pay double. You had four of those things.

How differently do you believe the game would have been had you taken better you turn the ball over in the playoffs, you pay double. You had four of those things. How differently do you believe the game would have been had you taken better care of the football? Because you guys were right there until you had those consecutive turnovers. I think it came down to the wire. I think it came down to whoever had the ball last. And obviously, like you said, turnovers, especially in the playoffs,

man, play a huge factor. I mean, we turned the ball over against Philly in the regular season five times and won the game. Right. But in the playoffs, you know, it's different. It's a different type of beast when you're in the playoffs. You're on the road, so obviously you're playing in the crowd, playing in the atmosphere.

And, man, they got dogs over there. They got superstars. Okay, this game right here, you got the two-time defending champ and the Kansas City Chiefs led by Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid. You got the Eagles in your division. in the Kansas City Chiefs, led by Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid. You got the Eagles in your division. You played them three times this year. This is their second time back in three years.

How do you see this game shaping up and who you have winning? I think it's going to come down to whoever got the ball last. I think so. I think, obviously, Saquon and what they do, Jay Hurst. You got A.J. Brown. And then on the other side, man, you got Pat. So it's hard to bet against Pat, man, especially he's been here. But I think it's who can create more turnovers,

who can create more negative plays on the side of the ball. And I think it's going to come down to the end. So for me, I think it's hard to bet against Pat. I can't see, you know, rightfully so. I mean, I love playing the Eagles. Right. They're in the division, but I think it's hard to bet against Pat. Man, I really appreciate you, man. The legendary, already icon,

commander's quarterback, Jaden fucking Daniels. Baby, I appreciate you. Appreciate you. Thank you for stopping by. He's repping Invisalign. Go out there and get your treatment. He and his mom are getting to have the treatment done. They're very, very satisfied with the treatment. Thank you again, Jayden.

Mom, thank you for dropping him by. Thank you. I appreciate y'all. We're joined by Greg Olson, one of the great play-by-play guys. Actually, your color. You're not play-by-play. Your color. One of the great color guys, young, up-and-coming.

When you – let me ask you this. Forget football. What's been the biggest thing from you to do? How how were you able to become so good, so quick at doing this job? You know, it's funny when people ask me about it. You know, there's actually a lot of lessons that I learned, you know, from playing. Right. Just routine preparation. Every Monday is a Monday. Every Tuesday is a Tuesday. And leaning into a lot of those things throughout the course of the week as a player, I didn't know any different, right? So when they said, all right, we got a game next

Sunday and you're going to call it. I just fell back to what I knew, which is study the game. I love watching football. I love asking questions and you have to be very willing to be like, you know what? I don't know a lot about this. I'm going to find people who really know it and I'm going to pick their brain. I'm going to talk to great coaches. I'm going to talk to front office guys. I'm going to talk to, you know, defensive coordinators. How do you put together your blitz package? Learn as many different aspects of the game, organize it in your mind, organize your thoughts, and then just lay out the game, stay with the game,

follow it and try to do it in a way that is interesting. It's insightful and try to add value. And I'm still learning. I don't pretend to know it all, And I'm still learning. I don't pretend to know it all, but I just love learning the craft of calling the games. And it's been a great transition for me since I'm done playing. Listen, I've watched you transition, obviously, from playing the game to doing play-by-play or color commentary, like coaches said. Obviously, your discipline and your worth ethic has allowed you to do so. Now, I'm thinking about someone in my position who has never done anything of that magnitude.

Is it possible in any way that I could probably learn if I can minimize my cursing a little bit, I can learn to do color commentary? Or is that something you think I should stay away from? No, I think anybody can learn it. So the inherent, the underlying foundation of all that is guys who love football, guys who want to continue to learn it, guys who want to continue to stay up with the trends and follow it and dive into it. Anybody can do it right. Then it's just communicating it in a little bit of a different setting. Right. Simplicity.

And that was probably the biggest transition for me. I'm a talker. I love conversation. I could sit here with you two for three hours. Yeah. We can talk about whatever. But that's not the broadcast. We have commercial breaks.

We have referees. We have game breaks. And you get 15 seconds. That was probably the biggest thing is just the tempo and kind of the rhythm of the broadcast. Everyone has a lot to say. Can you say a little bit, make an impact, but also not overdo it? I think that's still the balance that I'm still trying to find. OK, I think the biggest thing for me is what I've noticed is you're talking about it as it's happening versus talking about something that's already happened or something that you perceive to happen.

So like pregame, postgame is entirely different than doing color because you're talking as it's happening. Yeah. And I think the battle, at least the way I try to do it is I try not to tell you what you're seeing. Right. Because you already see it, right? Like, I don't want to narrate the replay. Okay. Okay. I don't want to just talk over what you're already seeing.

Right. Because I think to most fans, I think fans nowadays are very educated. People are listening. They're listening to shows. They're listening to weekly and weekend stuff. Tell them why they're seeing it. Maybe take their eyes away from the ball. What led to this play being really successful? What led to this read or this wide receiver route? Like was it, it was a pick, but did the receiver not get flat enough on his inside break? Take people into the why, the thought process.

That's the part I enjoy the most. Everyone can see it was a nice catch. Everyone can see it was a sack. Why? Tell us why and what the counter is going forward. That's the game that I think is the fun part to lay out. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower

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You good? Congratulations on a great season individually. Not the season that you wanted to have team-wise. What do you guys need to do in order to have success when you're in the playoffs and you're contending for a championship? Yeah. I mean, that's a really, really tough question.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Be honest. Don't be politically correct. Not here. OK, OK. Be straight up like me in the barbershop now. All right. So we have to have those tough conversations as you know, like just like as men. Right. And and we need to call guys up. Right. I just like not like calling them out. I just like call them up to right? Like, just, like, not, like, calling them out. I just, like, call them up to, like, our standard. We need more. We expect more. Yeah, and that starts with everybody.

Like, that starts with me. That starts with every single person. And we just got to find ways to close that gap because there's so many games that, like, you know, like, just, like, we were so close, and we just let it slip. Now, I got a question. Now, you speak about that gap, right?

And obviously, everyone's goal at the beginning of the season is you want to compete to be in San Francisco this year coming up, next year, obviously. Yeah. What gaps do you think need to be filled in from an acquisition standpoint, offensively or defensively, that can help you guys get to that end goal? Honestly, I think that we have a lot of our core guys. Right.

And, like, before I can focus on anybody else, like, I got to focus on everything that I got to do. Like, I didn't have my best season. I mean, now there are some things that happened, but just, like, focusing, like, all on myself. Like, I have to do things to produce in any type of situation. Injury, like, just, like, you know, like just like guys are like out there hurt too.

Right, right. There was a lot made of the situation. I think it was the Texans game. Your quarterback scrambled. He ended up taking himself out of the game. I guess there was a team meeting. There were conversations that were had. The coach ended up benching him for a couple of – a game, not a week.

He got benched one game for a couple of a game not a week a couple of uh he got benched one game a couple of games and then uh i think flacco filled in or whomever came in for him what was those conversations like because i'm telling you as a player have been in the locker room has been a leader that's frowned upon when we feel a guy left us out there to try because the one thing is it's kind of like we adopted there's nothing compared to the military so military folks don't get me wrong, but it's like we leave no man behind. It's that we're out here together, we're going to fight together,

we're going to win together, we're going to lose together. But the one thing we're not going to do is leave the other guys behind. What was that conversation that you had to have with your quarterback? Because I believe he's going to be there for an extended period of time, Michael Pittman Jr., and you know, you guys are going to need him. Yeah. We had a, so we actually had all of our team. So all of our team leaders from every single position group.

And we kind of had a hour long meeting and, and we talked about everything. Like it wasn't just centered around that. Like it was everybody. But I think that was a good, um, learning experience for him to know that that is not the standard and that he can't do that and, um, stuff like that. So it's all just learning. And, and, um, I think that he handled that period of time well, um,

because everybody was like crashing on him, right? So we saw him show up earlier. We saw him put in more work and like kind of do the things necessary to kind of earn everybody's trust back. Jalen Milrow, former quarterback of the Alabama Crimson Tide, who decided to give up his final year of eligibility to go into the NFL draft. Jalen, thanks for joining us. So what are you ripping in? You're just here for the Super Bowl.

What's going on? What are you selling? Yeah, so I'm ripping Auto Trader. Okay. They made this event possible for me. So I'm coming from Orange County, California, a long day of travel. Yeah.

And it's a great opportunity to be here. Definitely inspired, you know, to understand why I'm here, Super Bowl. You know, I'm inspired to achieve my next dream, which is during the draft process right now. So, you know, I'm representing the auto trader today. I got a question. This is not where you really want to be. You want to be

prepared for the game. This is the first time, so hopefully in the future, we don't see you back here again. Not in this... Yeah, no, no doubt. No doubt. Yeah. Thinking about it, not in this past. Yeah, no doubt, no doubt, yeah. Thinking about it, how has the process been getting ready for the draft?

Yeah, so the best thing right now, I'm able to pour into myself right now and invest in myself. One thing that's unique about the office is no shot clock.

So you have time to develop, time to pour into things that you need to improve on. So I'm around a lot of great people where I'm at.

I'm in Orange County with Jordan Palmer and Mike White. Jordan. Yeah. That's my backup, man. It's Cincinnati, man. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm with them right now. So it's been fun to build each and every day

and find beauty in the process. Yeah. So what does Jalen Melrose need to work on in order for him to get to the level of quarterback that he wants to be and know that he can be? Because obviously there's some things that you need to work on in order for him to get to the level of quarterback that he wants to be and know that he can be because uh obviously there's some things that you need to work on there's no finished products coming into the draft there's no finished products once you enter the draft but what is the most important thing you feel you need to work on putting my body in the best way fast as far as efficiency to get to make every throw on the football field

okay um that's number one um number two, the exposure to the NFL. Although I lack experience, it's coming from watching tape. It comes from being in that system. And so during this process, I've been able to do that. We're going to the Reese Bowl. We're going and working with Jordan Palmer. Being able to reflect on tape and acknowledge, you know, where the area of weakness is to strength and why you're able to do that is by playing.

So, you know, for me, the transformation of 2023 to 2024, being a first-year starter, then my final season in college. And so just the exposure piece, number one, but also just having this offseason to really narrow down how can I put myself in the best way efficiently to make every throw on the football field because that's what's going to be needed when it comes to performing on Sundays,

but also playing on Sundays, but also playing on time, playing upright, and doing things the best way, fashion, so we can lead our offense to win. Pat, what's up? Don't you have to go to the bathroom? He late? No, he had to go to the bathroom.

No, he ain't late this time. He late? No, he ain't late this time. Oh. All right, joining us on the nightcap set is Adam Pac-Man Joe. You go by Adam or you go by Pac? I go by Pac. You ain't never called me Adam? But we were told, like, when I was doing this on television,

they said he don't want to be called Pac-Man anymore and he wants to be called Adam. I said, wait, I just saw this end in the barbershop a month ago and everybody was calling him Pac. Ain't nobody ever called him Adam. I don't know what Coach Marvin was thinking about when he said that to the media. I think that was something with him.

That had nothing to do with me. All right, Pac, you're down here at the Super Bowl. You know the two teams that are in the Super Bowl, the Chiefs and the Eagles. How do you see this matchup playing out? I just, I can't't two teams are compatible but andy reed having two weeks to prepare for this game it's gonna be hard to beat andy reed andy reed have a motherfucker wide open i mean the other week when he had they was in the trips

formation yeah to the right single back i, single receiver to the left side. He sent the two over in motion just to see what they was in, man. And then he ran the little play with the pick out the back. How can they tell me how the linebacker going to make that play? He can't. There's no way. He's not going to make it. What's up, man? You late.

No, I'm just fucking kidding. And they sat on this play for the entirety of the game. They did. Not there. Look, and I talked on this play for the entirety of the game. They did. Not very – look, and I – and I – we – Ocho and I talked about this. There are not very many coaches in that situation is going to throw the ball because you're going to stop the clock.

Yeah. If that clock stops, now you give them an opportunity to get the ball back with a chance to go down and tie you or beat you. Yeah. He says, Patrick, and we saw this last year against the Baltimore Ravens, he said even Valdell Scanlon, who had dropped several passes during the regular season, he threw

the ball on third down. 30-plus yards down the field. That's the kind of confidence that Andy has in 1-5. And confidence is well-placed. Yes, it is. And, man, you can look at them last week and look at them four weeks ago when they didn't have Worthy, they didn't

have Chaco. Now they all healthy, man. Worthy is, man. He's fine, bro. Like, he is, that's one of the guys that ain't nobody talking about that can be MVP. That's why I told you. Remember I told you earlier, you never know who day it's gonna be. When you watch the Chiefs all season long,

every time they play, it's always somebody else's day. Like, you watch the Bengals play, you know it's gonna be Chase. Half the time, 90% of the time. You watch the Chiefs play, ain't no telling who day it's always somebody else's day. Like you watch the Bengals play you know it's going to be Chase half the time 90% of the time. You watch the Chiefs play ain't no telling who day it's going to be.

One day it's Worthy one day it's Kelsey one day it's Noah Gray. So depending on what the Eagles do this game well it's going to be exciting. Now joining us he was NFL

Rookie of the Year. He's a former All-Pro and Pro Bowl player. Played years with the San Diego Chargers, and he played one season, if I'm not mistaken, with the Buffalo Bills. Here he is, Sean Lights Out Merriman. What up, bro?

What's up, little man? What's up, little man? What's up, little man? There you go. I'm just getting up here. You already saw. Hey. That bare knuckle.

Get that bare knuckle. Nah, I was finna beat his ass years ago. See, this will happen. I promise you. No, no. He said this will happen. I didn't know he was playing around. I didn't know he was playing around.

Long time ago. Right. And he said he was going to beat my ass. Right. So I stopped. I was in the charging facility. I walked out and I did a video. And said I was going to choke him when I seen him. Right? I didn't beat my ass. Right. So I stopped. I was in the charging facility. I walked out and I did a video. They said I was going to choke him when I seen him.

Right? I didn't know Chad then. I thought he was serious. And we were playing them coming up. And I said, when we see them, I'm going to do something real bad. Real bad when I catch them. And I never caught him. Yeah.

It was a fun day, man. Man, how you doing, y'all? I'm good, man. Doing well. Good. Let me ask you this, man. You see this matchup. Obviously, Patrick Mahomes going for the three-peat.

The Eagles, Saquon, Jalen Hurts, AJ, Devontae. Then you go to the defensive side of football, led by Jalen Carter. They have Zach Brown in the middle. You got Slade. You got Mitchell on the outside. How do you see this matchup playing out? You know, it's funny because everybody's talking about the obvious, right?

Saquon talking about Pat. We know what they're going to do. I think, man, this game really going to come down to the trenches. I think it's really going to come down to Jalen Carter, Chris Jones. I think it's going to be that kind of matchup because that's really going to dictate the tempo of the game. Right. You know, they're going to get there.

Saquon's going to rush for whatever he's going to rush for. I don't think this Magnola letting anybody rush for going to rush for. I don't think this, Magnolia, let anybody rush for 100 yards this year? I don't think so. Yes, but again, so now he got a real obstacle

on his hands dealing with that, man. I just think it's going to be an unsung hero. It ain't going to be Patrick Mahomes. It's going to be somebody

like Slay, right, to step up, you know, getting pressures, you know, and a ball force. And I think it's going to be an unsung hero in this game

that we're really not talking about. I want to know about the fight league. Yeah. Tell the people about what you have going with the fight league because I'm thinking about joining, getting hands wet a little bit. But it's MMA. Listen, I can kick too. Whatever you want to do.

Back in the mid-2000s, I wanted to start. I was working with Jay Glazer. I was in his gym. So I grew up. My family, my uncle's were professional boxers. So I grew up just boxing in PG County, Washington, D.C. area anyway. Sugar Ray Leonard's gym was right up the street. So I grew up around boxers anyway.

So I was hitting the gym, hitting the mix one day at gym and Jay Glazer said, hey, look, I see you can box if you ever tried MMA. It'll help you out in football with your hands coming off the edge. So he took me to the gym

one day, and Jay Glazer's here and Randy Couture is sitting on my left. And I'm looking at Jay, I said, I'm not fighting Randy Couture today.

That's not happening. But what I saw, man, I started training with these guys, you know, every offseason, Chuck Liddell, T.D. Ortiz,

all these guys, I got a chance to just be around to train with. And I fell in love with sports. I ended up launching Light Side Extreme Fighting, which we looked at, man, as one of the feeders to UFC. You know, we said we said six guys to the UFC last year. OK, so that's what so basically you're a minor league system to the UFC. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that the word minor league, nobody's going to be bigger than UFC. Right. No, no, no. There's going to be people who's going to cry. They got too much of a head start. They got too much of a head start.

And when you think of MMA, you already think of the UFC no matter where you at. But what you can do is do some things that they may not be looking at. Right. We got a bunch of, we got chips in the gloves that can measure speed, power, punch, impact, all that. It's like a lot of tech, a lot of AI. And I just launched my streaming service, Lights Out Sports TV, that we carry in a lot of combat sports. We got a big fight in LA this Friday

in Long Beach for Lights Out Extreme Fight. So what you can do, man, because we're able to pivot. We can do some stuff, and if they like it, right, if they like it, they adopt it. And that's the whole goal of it. We don't try to compete. We're just trying to create. Let me ask you this.

You hear Miles Garrett says, look, I appreciate everything in Cleveland. They made my dream come true. First overall draft pick, defensive player of the year, all pro, pro bowl. I believe I've done all I possibly can. But at the end of the day, I want to compete for a championship. And I don't believe I can do that in Cleveland. What do you – do you have a problem with him? Like, I want to go compete for a title. No.

And the Browns organization got to respect it. He's giving you everything he possibly can from his standpoint. He's done everything he can. And you get to a point as an organization that they're not doing what's best in your interest now. Because after you make enough money, you already know what's the best in your position. You already got the Pro Bowls,

all pros, you already got the accolades. The only thing now to do is get a championship. And if you don't have somebody out there working with you to put you in the best situation, say, hey, man, we got to get this. The biggest regret I have in my career is

not winning the ring. That's the biggest one. And all the teams we had, we should have at least got one. We should have got one. And so the teams we had, we should at least got one. Yeah, yeah. We should... We should have got one. And so, you know, I'm sitting up and I'm, you know, I remember going to NFL Network,

going to NFL Network and I'm sitting up there on the panel and I got Marshall Farr. Everybody was up there and they got these rings on and I'm sitting there, my heart beating through my chest because you've missed that part.

So I don't blame Miles Garrett at all for wanting to get out of an organization that hasn't put him in the best situation to be a champion. What's up, man? You good? I'm just making sure you good. You sure?

What's really going on? I'm making sure he good. But I thought you were in the fight. Into the what? The fight game. No, I'm not really into the fight game. My son is into the fight game. Like, what you talking about?

Like, fighting like with fists? MMA. MMA. Yeah, he likes to do MMA. How old is he now? 17. Okay. But I ain't letting him do nothing just for him.

Why? Because he got to gain weight to play ball. So that don't. I ain't got no weight. I'll spar you. Anytime, man. No, for real. I love that.

Debo. Oh, I'm dancing anytime. Nah, he think it's a game. This shit different over here, man. Hey. Hey. Yeah, you sweet on that. Hey, you know what's funny is after I did my exhibition, right,

and I had a few fights, a few local fights in Miami, my hands are registered now. They registered with who? With Vegas. I ain't had no choice but to register. What you mean? You know with who. Stop playing with me, man. If I come across this table, cross your head, boy. All you need to do is swing. I'll take everything else.

Really? That's it, man. You want to box a match or MMA? Oh, I'm MMA all day. I don't care. He can kick all he want to I don't need to kick What you gonna do All I need to do is grab you You ain't gonna grab shit

Nigga I'll beat your ass You got me I'm gonna choke I'm gonna choke your life out you They gonna have to choke me out To get you the leg up To get me the leg up Help me understand something

You tell me We getting the octagon right Me you getting the octagon Are you gonna run No why the fuck Run from who? Did I run from you when we played? Did I run from anybody when we played? That's different.

I have the same mentality. We can make this happen. Hold on. We get in the octagon. You tell me you're going to try to grab me and you think you're going to be able to do so. Understanding as quick as I am, with these feet, understanding these hands, you're going to grab me. Listen, man. Fighting you would be like fighting my son.

You know what? Practice. Can you do me a favor? Yes. As God is my will, please make this happen so I can be with you. We're going to make it happen. Hey, chat. Y'all want to see that?

Y'all want to see MMA? All y'all gets D-Bow. Out of the century. Please do. This way. For one, listen. Steelers. People in the chat.

He's too slow. Too much muscle. I'm going to dance around that shit. I'm going to hit you in your head. I'm going to hit you when I want to. I'm going to play with you. Hey, PZ, listen, man. Hey, PZ. Come here, PZ.

Hey, PZ. Hey, listen. I beat his ass, too. PZ, get up here, man. I beat his ass, too. It don, man. I beat his ass too. I don't care. It don't matter. He ain't got it like he used to. Damn.

What's up, man? No, he talking about whooping ass. I don't want to whoop his ass in the game. What you mean? What's the difference? Hey, listen. Just because he's sitting here, my tone don't change for nobody. I beat your ass and I beat his ass.

It ain't happening. Ocho say he won't give you both an MMA. He won't be an MMA. It's still Chad. He always go talk crazy. It's one thing about talking, but you know I'm going to get in there and thump. You're trying.

It's going to be a try. You 100 what? How much weight? 205 right now. but you know I'm going to get in there and thump. You're trying. I'm going to thump. What you going to try? It's going to be a try. That's not beating your ass, man. That's not playing on you. You 100 what? How much weight? 205 right now. Man, you're going to pick that little shit up with one hand. How you going to pick it up? Because he's going to pick that shit up with one hand.

How? Y'all couldn't even touch me when I played. What make you think you're going to touch me now? I couldn't touch you when you played. I slammed you on your head, on your neck. Doing that. Doing that. Doing that.

On your neck. On your neck. On your neck. Hey, hey, hey. He still lifts in a different way. I still lift in a different way. Not like that. They different. Nigga just big, man. I don't see that shit, man.

Y'all got me fucked up. Nigga, beat your ass. What? Man, stop playing with me, man. You playing with me, man? I'm putting all my money. I'm putting all my money on D-Bo. I'm putting all my money on Deebo. How much you got?

Let me think. Man, the way my body set up, I can't do no helping. Nobody. You betting against me? Yeah. All right. Hey. Bet.

Hey. Bet. All right. You can invest. You can invest. You think she is sweet, boy? Oh, I don't think she is sweet, man. You know where I'm from?

Hey, we're going to make it happen. You think she is sweet? Are y'all playing or are you for real? No, no. I don't care if you from hell, bro. Where am I from? But you seriously? Where I'm from playing? Are you for real? Where am I from? Where am I from? He's a MMA. We're going to make it happen.

You know, Ocho be really believing what he be saying sometimes. It could be outside. It don't matter. I'm done with you wherever, boy. I'm done with you wherever, boy. Don't mess up no money. I need the brakes off his ass. You talking about brakes? This ain't no up no money. I need the brakes off his ass. You!

You talking about brakes? This ain't no car, nigga. All right. We gonna get advertised as sponsors. How the hell I get called up for this conversation? You too slow. You're not quick enough. I have a skill set that I've honed over years that you ain't gonna be able to deal with, boy.

Absolutely destroyed. I'm gonna tell you this. I'm gonna What? Absolutely destroyed. All right. Okay. Okay. I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to be honest with you. Yeah. You fast. Quick. Quick. You all that. Hands.

I got ground game. What? What? You and I. Just stop with the wrestling. You guys don't want to grab me. Stop with the grabbing. Stop with the grabbing. You better stop.

Man, for real. Let's be honest. Stop with the grabbing. Hit and run. You know he don't want to get in the grabbing game. I know he don't. I know he don't. This is what I'm more worried about.

I'm more worried about he might eat that little shit you throw at him. No, forget what I told you. He ain't conditioned like I am. He's going to be tired in two seconds. He's going to try to throw a punch. You're going to try to throw my weight back? He's grabbing me. You said MMA. He's not grabbing me. Stop saying that before I hit tired in two seconds. He going to try to throw a punch. You going to try to throw my weight back? He grabbed me. You said MMA.

He's not grabbing me. Stop saying that before I hit you in your mouth. Don't say that no more. How the hell did I get on this? I was walking by. Now I'm about to get hit in my mouth. Boy, goddamn. Because y'all disrespecting me.

Y'all think they can. Hey, man, you know the AFC. Hey, Peezy. You know how the AFC North is. Hey, it'll be forever. I don't like that people look at size and they determine wins and losses based off size. You saw David and Goliath.

Remember that story, right? Man, that was the Bible. Remember that story? Remember what happened? You ain't in there. Huh? Yeah. Don't do that.

Don't try to paint yourself up to be David. You read the Bible? Yeah, I read. But you ain't. Do you read the Bible? Neither one of us is David or Goliath. Do you read the Bible? Do you read the Bible? Yes.

Start reading. Boy, you good. I ain't gonna need it. I thought you was good back in the day. You know what? I ain't been around you in a minute. You got better. You heard me?

Hey, Chad, listen. Let me talk to you. Shay, Shay. He done got good. This ain't no joke. Shay, Shay. He didn't get good. He good. Nah, this ain't no joke. Y'all take my life for a joke. My life ain't no joke.

All my kids, I'm going to fuck you up. See all that? All that talking crazy. All that crazy. I'm going to bust you in your mouth. Call me up. I'm like, oh, boy. What's going on?

I put that on my kids. You know I don't play by my kids. I got 200 of them. I got you. But you good. Boy, you good. I'm going to show you I'm like, oh, boy. What's going on? I put that on my kids. You know, I don't play by my kids. I got 200 of them. I got you. But you good. Boy, you good. I'm going to show you I'm good. No, you really good.

In the octagon, I'm going to show you I'm good. Hold on. Oh, my God. What you got to do? You got something to say? Listen, man. I accepted my Lord and Savior in August of this past year, man. I was baptized.

You were? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, mine went off. I gotta get baptized. And see, what you about to make me do is go totally outside what I said I was going to do. Of your character, right? No. Listen, man. I think I might...

I've been trying to hold this thing inside of me for a long time. Because ever since I got fined by Roger Goodell for $75,000, I've been wanting to kill somebody. I think you might be the person. I think God done brought you to me. That's fine. That's fine. Whatever you want to do. You know? Matter of fact, if you beat me, I'll add

a $75,000 to your purse if you beat me. How about that? Damn. So you get your money back. That's how serious I am. Oh. You gonna give me that? I give it back. You might as well just write that right now. You got me fucked up, man. You might as well write that. How can I get involved in this? Y'all talking about making some money.

Shay, when you come in here? Where's my part? Hold on, I got it. I'll tell you what part. You're going to be the nigga cut man. All right, I ain't going to work that day, dude. There's going to be no work done. Do my check come or do I do nothing?

So hold on, I got three. Because I'll walk down the aisle. I'll bring him out. Hold on, so you don't believe in me. No. You don't believe in me. I. You don't believe in me. I believe in you. And you talking shit.

What you think? Okay. What the hell I look like believing in you and going against me? You got life on that stuff. I don't care where you from. I'm from Akron, Ohio.

That don't mean nothing. You from where? Akron, Ohio. I'm going to break the brakes off your ass. You from Akron? Yeah. I'm from Philly City.

Who? Dade County. I don't even know where that is. I know. Oh, you don't know. You don't know. You're going to know when I lump your ass up, bitch. All right Dade County. I don't even know where that is. I know. Oh, you don't know? You don't, man. You're going to know when I lump your ass up, bitch.

That ain't true. You're not going to be pressing me to lump up. All right. How did I get into this? When did y'all be able to talk like that? You know what? Matter of fact, I'm doing too much talking. Yes, you are. I'm doing too much talking. Let's just set the shit up, man. Run it. When you want it?

Tomorrow? It don't matter. We can do it now in front of everybody. It don't matter where I'm at. Run it. Run it. When you want it? Tomorrow? It don't matter. Nigga, we can do it now. We can do it now in front of everybody. It don't make me none. It don't matter where I'm at. Run it. Nigga, run it. Nigga, what you saying? Hey.

Run it. Run it. Run it. Hey. We got six months. We got six months. I don't trust him. Huh?

You playing. I don't trust him. If you see him playing with the Grizzlies, you save the bell. No, no, no. Listen, I'm trying to tell you. He's that pit bull that, he's, if you get close enough,

he's going to grab your ass. He should have pulled you down, right? He said what? I pulled you down for a reason. He said what? I pulled you down for a reason. Hey, we got six of us. You playing.

Nigga's fat. I'm not playing. He's dead ass. Oh, yeah, I'm going to set it up. Hey, please, we got this. It's me. Oh, we're going to make some money. Come on, he's ass. Oh yeah, I'm going to set it up. We got this. He's serious. What you think I am? Did I play with you on Sundays?

Yeah. He come to me and be like, we about to fight before the game. I said, no, man, they're going to throw me out for real. I ain't got time to mess with you, CJ. I'm going to be, he pull up with his shirt rolled up. Come on, man. I said, no, man, they're going to throw me out for real. And you're going to get the play.

But it's the thing. This ain't football anymore. This is real life. This is real life. And you testing my manhood and you disrespecting me. Are you going to? No. Okay, we'll see.

We'll see. We'll see. How much time do you need to get the knee right? Oh, I don't want no excuses. That's going to be his first excuse when he lose. Oh, my knee was messed up. Oh, my knee was... I can do that right now.

I had a meniscus. I had a meniscus. I'm here till tomorrow. Y'all bring me back. I'm here till tomorrow. I got to go run and do my thing. Oh, my knee. Hit me back.

I need some more of this, man. I need to get my content up. I'm going to beat that nigga ass, bro. I tell you what, man. You give it time. Whatever you need to do, Shay. Give him the time. He going to beat that nigga ass, bro. I tell you what, man. You give it time. Whatever you need to do, Shay, give him the time and he's going to need to gain some weight. You might want to give him the whole thing.

I think six months will be good enough. Can you be ready in six months? I can be ready tomorrow, man. No, we need time. We got to sell this. Well, shit. Now he quiet. Now he quiet he quiet soft ass

soft ass soft ass you soft boy I see through all that shit I see through all that muscle shit ain't about nothing boy you got the right one dog

I'm going to you got the right one baby I'm going to try to see what they said in the chat cause uh I beat the chat ass too See man listen We gonna have to listen

I'm tired I'm not listening I'm Helen Keller don't talk to me Trying to make me laugh Laugh for what Cause whatever you smile we're gonna be missing I don't bust your ass too bad Nah you got to get it. Bet. You got to get it. Hey, he asked

for this. He asked for this. Oh, I'm going to give you anything you're looking for. March, April, May, June, July, August. I think August will be about the right amount of time. I don't need it. I'm good now. You better talk to him. Hey, Ryan, I'm going to fuck him up. Lies. All right. I got Debo chat.

That's fine I don't know I want you to better get Because my teachers in high school Said the same thing They didn't believe in me And look what I became You did Look where I've come

You did Ass, who you got? Debo Okay Aaron, who you got? Debo Who you got? Thank you

Thank you Somebody that believe in me That's Ocho's producer, Aaron. Okay. Unfortunately, put all your money on him too. James Harrison, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us, Debo, man. Appreciate it. Hey, get right. Get the knee right.

Get right. Get right. Yeah, I know. I know. I thought playing football was easy. That's I know. I ain't lying, man. It's going to be the easiest. I thought playing football was easy. Okay. That's going to be the easiest money you ever made.

Okay. Ever made. We'll see. You owe us the money, right? Yeah, we'll see. The money going to be right. We'll see. Yes.

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Robert Sala comes back. The last time you guys went to the Super Bowl, you coming back. Right. What happened this year? Because you guys were in this situation just last year. Correct. This year, some injuries. What happened?

What does the 49ers need to do to get back in this position? And what happened this year? Yeah, I mean,? What does the 49ers need to do to get back in this position and what happened this year? Yeah, I mean, everybody talks about the injuries, right? I think it just, when you go through the whole year, things just unraveled at the exact wrong time,

I think you could call it, right? We thought we had a chance to really get back on track. Mid-season, we get Christian back, right? You know, we win a big game on the road against the Buccaneers. Buffalo, we think we can come bounce back after a bad game against Green Bay. He gets hurt.

We lose guys on the D-line. We lose Trent. We lose B.A. Like, all these injuries kind of just happened at the wrong time, and we just weren't able to continue to compete at a high level. So we got to get back, man. We got to get back on track this offseason, get guys healthy, and get that dog back in us.

Now, when you think about the offseason, right, are there any pieces, any acquisitions that you see fit that can help and bolster the defensive side of the ball, the offensive side? Are you happy with the core guys you guys have? I mean, I see Myles Garrett asking for a trade. I'm like, hey, hey, hey, Myles, what's up, man? We was just jumping it up at the Pro Bowl.

You know, you made something where you want to trade. I don't know, man. I love my team. I love who's up, man? We was just jumping it up at the Pro Bowl. You know, you made something where you want to try. I don't know, man. I love my team. I love who we have, right? You're always looking for more pieces, you know, more improvement. Of course, you know, we need improvement going into the next season, of course, based on the season we had. But I love everybody that we got in our locker room.

It's going to take everybody just taking a look in the mirror and just taking that next step going into the next season. What a friend, Warner. Obviously, you've been a multi-time All-Pro player. next step on the next season. What is Fred Warner? Obviously you've been a multi-time all pro player. You've gone to Pro Bowl. You've gone to Super Bowl. What's left. What do you want to accomplish?

Say the next four or five years of your career. Four or five Super Bowls. Four or five Super Bowls. Man, that's, that's honestly what the only thing I'm chasing at this point. Right. When I, when I wake up in the morning, it's no longer of like, all right, I'm trying to just be the best in the game, right? I want to be the best of all time.

And what does that require? Not only playing at the best, the highest level, but having the championships, right? That's the ultimate team award is a Super Bowl ring. And so what do you have to do? You got to go outside yourself. You got to get uncomfortable now. Where you going?

You're getting after your teammates like, hey, train with me come train in the bay like let's get let's get after let's get to it so we're making sure that we're training together we're doing things the right way so when ultimately the season comes boom now we've even that more locked in the chemistry there the camaraderie we got to build that up to start getting getting these rings going what about a dpoy absolutely because you know you look at the great linebackers from Singletary to Buccas, Ray Lewis, Erlacher, Keekly. All those guys are able to accomplish that in the middle linebacker position. And I think you're in that category. Absolutely.

But you're going to need to get one of those. Yeah, I'll take it a step further. Why not MVP? Okay. Or you're trying to be the LT. Come on, man. There's only been two of those now. Adam Page. League MVP. Oh, you were trying to be the LT. Come on, man. There's only been two of those now. Adam Page.

And LT. I figured I want to shoot for MVP, and if I fall down on DPOY, hey, that's great, too. That's a good one. That's the mindset, though. Yeah. I'm trying to think. It's early.

I've asked everybody that's been on here this. It's early. It's February right now. I'm not sure how much time you take off from your season before you start back training. What do you do in the offseason? What does that look like before you get back into business? Before getting back into it, I mean, all that time in season

when I'm dedicating that to just strictly football, like I want to give some time back to my family, right? My wife, my son. I got a 10-month-old boy at home who needs his daddy. You know what I'm saying? So it's kind of using that time to take some trips, spend some more time with them. Unfortunately, I got to come do stuff like this because I'm not so it's kind of using that time to take some trips spend some more time with them

unfortunately I gotta come do stuff like this because I'm not playing in the Super Bowl but it is a pleasure obviously being amongst the greats and do stuff like this

but yeah man just spending time with family that's dope Ted Karras and Alex Kappa each one one

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Let's go. Have a seat. Tell us what brings you out. Let's see the bounty, the quicker picker. Hold on, hold on. We're the bounty wingmen. We're the bounty wingmen today. Because, Shannon, you can't have football without wings.

You cannot. You cannot have. And you can't have wings without bounty. You cannot. You can't do it. So is this a two-ply? The quicker picker-upper, right? Oh, this is the good stuff. The good stuff. The really good stuff. This is the diesel.

Okay. I like it. We might as well be in Cincinnati right now. There we go. How's your experience so far been in this hoop bowl? This week. I'm kind of just, you know, just coming straight to Radio Row. You know, I've been to New Orleans a few times. Uh-huh. I love this week. I'm kind of just, you know, just coming straight to Radio Row. You know, I've been to New Orleans a few times. Uh-huh.

I love this town. You like it? Yeah, yeah. How has it been so far? It's been good. I had some beignets last night. Ah.

Unbelievable. But it's been good, man, just hanging out here. Okay, okay. Talk to us about the season. Obviously, you guys didn't make the playoffs

and having been to the Super Bowl, you know what that's like. So what, what are the bingles? What do you guys need to do to make sure that next year in San Francisco that you guys are not able to come to radio row? Yeah, I mean, you can't throw away games, right? Like if you look at our early season, we had too many games that we just threw away, like game four or five games. We should have won and we didn't make the play.

And when you do that, it's it's tough to dig yourself out of a hole, even if you want to run at the end there. That Patriots game really hurt, huh? Because you look back at it and see where they finished and look where that one game, what if you like, and that's what it comes down to during the season. Look, we can, there's game here, game there. But you're like, hold on. We lost to that team.

They're going to be picking third in the draft. And we lost to that team. And they potentially kept us out of the playoffs. Yeah, no, I think that's officially something that's that's on our back as a program to see get these early wins in the season and not not play from a two three game deficit against kansas city buffalo baltimore and and you know just be in the pack because it's going to be tight regardless yes but we can't drop three to start and expect to do anything in the end. But you know how close those games are even between teams that win a lot of games and teams that

don't. If you don't play well, you're going to lose those games. It's that simple. You look at Kansas City. One score game, they don't lose one score games. You lose a couple of those games, now all of a sudden, it works out different. Some teams, one score game, they might be two and eight. Another team in one score game, they might be eight and two.

That's the difference between a team making the playoffs and a team that doesn't make the playoffs. What do you got? Look, you lose your defensive coordinator, you bring it out. I think Golden comes back in. He was a DB linebacker. Linebacker, yep. End up going to Notre Dame, becoming the DC.

He comes back. What are some of the things that you think you guys need to do in order to improve this overall team to make sure you got just in the Super Bowl about four years ago? How do you get back? So I think it just starts with preparation. We got to come out of camp healthy and ready to go, prepared, healthy, ready to go for week one, week two, and put ourselves in a great position in our division and in our conference.

You know, I'm excited for Scott Peters, our new O-line coach. He's going to bring a great, refreshing new energy to our room. I've talked to Dave Andrews up in New England, and he speaks very highly of him. So I'm excited to get to work with him. Yeah, and it's not wholesale changes. I mean, every game is going to be close the whole year, so it's making those plays.

It comes down to execution and if you execute in those close games, that's the difference. Better. Get them right. Also, I want to point out also watching us, I'm saying us, even though I'm not on the team right now, watching us throughout the years, we always have a problem and issue with starting slow.

We always start slow where we have to find our way, pick ourselves out the hole. You know, what do you think we can do from an offensive and defensive standpoint to where we can get a season finally where we start fast for a change and it's not so hard to climb back into contention later on in the season? I think we're probably going to – it's probably going to be

a little bit different of a spring program. Right. And obviously camp too. And, you know, I think that Zach wanted to play us more in this preseason. Right. I think we'll probably have a bigger volume in the preseason coming up. You just talked about that. Yes.

Because I'm from the old school. Yeah. We used to play the first preseason game. There's four preseason games. Yeah. Obviously, if you went overseas or you played the Hall of Fame game, you played five. But we would play 10 – the first preseason game, we'd play 10season games. Obviously, if you went overseas or you played the Hall of Fame game, you played five. But we played 10 plays.

The first preseason game, we played 10 plays. And then we played 20. The third preseason game was dress-out, dress-rehearsal. So we're playing three quarters. And then the fourth game, we were out. Now a lot of these guys, you guys don't even play in the preseason. How difficult? And now you ask, well, you don't play the entire preseason.

All right, we're going to turn it up. We want you to go all out, 60 plays. That's asking an awful lot, guys. Yeah, but you still see teams do it. Like, I think the Rams, when they won the Super Bowl, they didn't play at all in the preseason. So, I don't know. I mean, it's doable.

I don't like to look at that as, like, kind of an excuse. Like, I really think it comes down to executing plays. Like, why did we lose those games? I don't think it's because we didn't play in the preseason. I think it's because we didn't play well. You know what I mean? I was just kind of pointing to something that we could change. Like, why did we lose those games? I don't think it's because we didn't play in the preseason. I think it's because we didn't play well. You know what I mean? I was just kind of pointing to something that we could change. Yeah, no doubt.

To just change up the mojo. Right, right. Yeah. Right. At the start of the season. Cleveland Browns all-world cornerback Denzel Ward. My guy. D, you up, Ocho.

D, who up? You. You might be talking about Madden. You. You need to talk about real life about You might be talking about Madden You You need to talk about I really need that Madden rating up I done studied I done studied him to a T

I can tell him about his whole game What he gonna do Down the distance D you up That's what I'm telling you Nathaniel The great Hey listen

One of the greatest technicians You ever be seeing the tweets Where I talk about Oh man No I studied I appreciate this I ain't even playing the game You can't Boy Let me playing the game. Yeah.

You can't. Boy. Let me say the game. The real deal. Yeah. Hold on. I got one. I'm another technician. Denzel Ward, number one.

That goddamn Stingley. Now, everybody can play Kona. Mm-hmm. But it's different. I'm talking about that. Remember the play? You just said PS2. Nah.

No, hold on. Hold on. No, i say pat pat yeah certain attorneys i'm talking about technical like it's different the skill set you know watching somebody six to do it and watching somebody i thought you were six foot yeah it's different oh he's so fucking fluid by the hip the footwork number one that ran uh the deep uh higgins that was higgins yeah yeah i'm mad. I'm mad, dog. You picked it. Oh, dog. No, that's.

Denzel, thanks for joining us. Obviously, the other day, you know about it. I don't know how soon you heard about it, but Miles Garrett sent a letter to the Cleveland Browns. He's asking for a trade. Get a comment. Anything you want to say? Oh, man.

Like I said earlier in the season, I feel me and Miles, we like Shaq and Kobe. So I've been saying that. So I want to play with Miles Garrett. You know, I don't want him to leave. But sure.

Yeah, if he leave, what's up? You asking him to give too? I don't know. Just check the details under the trade. I might be in there. But no.

I don't know, man. Like, I want to always say I love Cleveland. I'm a hometown kid in Cleveland. And sure. I mean, I want to stay home while Miles is staying.'m a hometown kid in cleveland and uh shoot i mean i want to stay home on miles to say and we got to get this thing rolling but we never know that's

the nfl we see what happens you also have to understand when you look at the landscape of the nfl you get the teams that win consistently year in and year out there's one position that allows you to contend for lombardi trophy and that's the quarterback position now the browns haven't been able to find a quarterback adequate enough to make sure they're always in contention year in and year out. So at some point, you do understand where Myles Garrett is coming from about his wish and hopes to contend for Lombardi. Yeah, no doubt. I mean,

that's the main thing. I mean, just last year, we had the number one defense. I mean, we got things kind of settled, I feel, on that end. So like I said earlier, we need to solidify the quarterback position. Our quarterback been hurt, and we just been rotating guys in and out. And it's hard to win

like that in the NFL. So do you feel you're the best DB in the league? No doubt. I don't. No doubt. Like I said, I'm a technician.

I'm the number one technician in the league at corner. I'm a playmaker too. I make play. I'm the most playmaking corner out there in the game or whatever. It's a funny thing.

When you talk about DBs, right? 95% of DBs play not to get beat. You got 5% play to make a play. There's a difference. There's a complete difference. Just so you don't understand, I can sit here and talk about DB play.

I like DB play as opposed to receiver more. Do you think, I want you to be honest with yourself. Do you think at any point in your career, right now, when you came in, when you was in college, that you could cover me? I feel that's a rhetorical question. I just want to know if you're really

sure you can do that. Like, serious? Serious. You think you can get over it? In your prime. Forget prime. I can get over on your ass right now. I see one clip you got hand up. Time out. For one, I ain't having no clips I ain't see your feet

I really couldn't dig up When he stabbed I was just going to go up under it I couldn't get up under it because I had no grip I'm going to say the old Ocho He would have got around it I'm 57 Now he's just an old Ocho Not an old Ocho

But let me ask you this When you look at Jerry Judy Now he's just an old Ocho. Not an old Ocho, the old Ocho. But let me ask you this. When you look at Jerry Judy, he came to Cleveland after some years in Denver, and the quarterback play had a lot to do with that. He was technical. Now you talk about – I can imagine those one-on-ones in practice because he's technical. He can get in and out of breaks.

He got great movement. What did you see – what do you think the biggest difference was between him and Cleveland and him and Denver? I think it could have just been opportunities, for real. Opportunities. But like you say, he's a smooth route runner. He's going to get in and out them breaks like that. Like, in practice, we going at it every time.

So, we getting each other better for the games. But, yeah, I think it's just opportunities. Getting the opportunity to get the ball more and being that number one guy. He the number one guy for us, and he been making it happen this year. How was it having Jameis in the locker room? We see those clips of Jameis. He be being dubbed.

He be giving those sermons. No, I love Jameis, man. Jameis is a great quarterback. I feel sure he is giving us the best chance to win. He going to throw that ball when he get out there. But just a great team guy in the locker room. Like, what you see on film and the clips, viral clips,

like, that's really who he is. That's him. So you got to appreciate that and love who he is. Listen, since you've been in the league right now and you understand the landscape of the receivers,

who do you think the best receiver in the game is? Or just give me your top three based on those you've played against. Oh, go. You've played space. Yeah. Like, since I've been in the NFL? Or, like, right your top three based on those you've played against. Since I've been in the NFL, right now. I'm going to put

Jamar up there. Having to see him two times a year, that's always going to be a battle. Chase, Devontae, when I went against him. Adams. Jefferson. What did you say? Three or five? Your top three is good. Devontae, when I went against him. Adams. Yeah. Jefferson. Yes, okay.

What'd you say, three or five? What'd you say? I mean, your top three is good. Yeah, I'm good with that. Is there someone that gives you trouble? Like, when I talk about DBs, obviously during my playing day, and I think of someone that gave me trouble, there was only one. And that was Revis.

Revis, yeah. There was only one, you know. In regards to where it was in my career, his technique was sound, he was patient. Nigga had patience like Sally Mae. one. You know, in regards to where it was in my career, technically he was patient. They can have patience like Sally Mae. Yeah. But, you know, people ain't finna pay Sally Mae. Right.

That's the kind of patience he had at the last. So nothing I did would really work. He was on bar. Yeah. He was always in position. And then his ball skills. Mm-hmm. He had the balls.

You have the same ball skills. You and Derek Stingley might be the only two I know that have elite ball skills that don't get impatient. They don't panic when the ball is near. That the biggest thing nice and calm yeah but he had that same thing what receiver gives you trouble if there was one right it's okay to be it's okay to be honest yeah i'm beyond like it's a lot of great receivers but i don't feel no one just give me like oh it's just crazy trouble no but when i first came into the league antonio brown though going against him as a rookie,

I feel like, okay, you know, this is really a matchup. Like he put pressure on me. Right. Right. I mean,

it's a lot like chase. Like that's a tough matchup and stuff like that. But I don't think guys, and it's too many guys. It's really just, I feel working. Right. Right.

Right. Right. Right. Right. Okay. I got you. The Volume. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain.

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