Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Kevin Durant vs. Twitter, Aiyuk rejects trade offers

Episode Date: August 10, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Kevin Durant's public feuding with Nikola Jokic fans on Twitter, Joel Embiid hinting that he could play for Cameroon's Olympic team in 2028, an Oly...mpic gymnast alleging that his mother stole his prize money, Brandon Aiyuk reportedly rejecting trades the 49ers had agreed to with the Browns and Patriots, Caleb Williams going on the TB12 diet, and more!19:53 - KD Twitter Fingers32:34 - Joel Embiid says he might play for Cameroon34:17 - Olympic Gymnast says mom takes money from his account42:37 - Brandon Aiyuk says no to trade46:32 - Caleb Williams is on the TB12 diet52:58 - Q and Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:26 restrictions, terms, and responsible gaming resources. That was our interview with Bobby Fink from early this morning. I'm glad we could do what we have been able to do, help some of these athletes out. We got two big athletes tomorrow coming on, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:02:49 What? Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. All right, tell me who. Tell me who. Tell me who. It's going to be a surprise. It's going to be a surprise. Come on.
Starting point is 00:02:57 You're supposed to surprise them. I'm your co-host. I ain't going to tell nobody, I promise. You're going to know before everybody else because you're going to see them in the monitor in the morning yeah but I wanna prepare I wanna prepare no you work better
Starting point is 00:03:12 when you don't prepare no we don't want you to prepare but we really appreciate you know we appreciate them taking time because a lot you know they have obligations obviously NBC cares it their first obligation is the NBC but for them to take time out of their schedule and say yes we'd love to come on nightcap uh we've reached out to a lot of people and it's hard because like i said
Starting point is 00:03:34 it's it's uh one time difference yes the time difference excuse me one of the uh gentlemen that's coming on tomorrow he's like look i don't care what time it is i'm coming up right and so it's gonna be like 12 one in the morning and he's gonna be like yeah he's coming on tomorrow, he's like, look, I don't care what time it is. I'm coming on. And so it's going to be like 12, 1 in the morning. And he's going to be like, yeah, he's coming on. He's actually coming on live. And so that's going to be great. But we've had a few athletes on. We've
Starting point is 00:03:58 had Gabby Thomas. We have Bobby Fink. We're going to have two other athletes that competed. Both of them medal. One won a gold. The other won a bronze. I'm going to do everything in my power to try to get Rye on. I just hit him up a little while ago. I just DM'd him. So I'm going to try to get him on before we get out of here on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:04:20 That would be great. I'd really like to have him on. We're going to reach out to Sid's people, see if we can get our own. It's a long shot, but the worst thing they can say is no. It's not. It's not a lot. They're going to do it. Sha'Carri?
Starting point is 00:04:36 We reached out. I mean, she don't really do a whole lot. We reached out to her team. We reached out to Noah. Noah was going to come on, but obviously, with the COVID situation, he reached out to Noah. Noah was going to come on, but obviously with the COVID situation, he was unable. He was going to come on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:52 So we had already had it worked out, but unfortunately he got COVID and he ended up, I don't know if he left yet already or he's leaving, but we know how that story played out. But thank you
Starting point is 00:05:08 for everybody that's been on. Justin Gatlin, Michael Johnson, Gabby Thomas, now Bobby Fink, and we got two, possibly three more before we close Nightcap, the Olympic-style edition going forward. Ocho, check this out. Jason Tatum's mom
Starting point is 00:05:24 demands answers over his lack of Team USS playing time. Jason Tatum was benched for the second time in Team USA 95-91 semifinal victory over Serbia. Tatum's mom, Brandi Cole, wants to
Starting point is 00:05:40 know why. First, Dick Votel tweeted, someone please let me know is at Jason Tat tatum zero injured and he hasn't received the plan and he hasn't received the playing time you would expect from an all nba player to get tatum's mom responded saying no he's not but if you find out what's going on please let me know uh unacceptable makes no sense bob koozie also blasted steve kerr suggesting that he has some kind of bias against celtic tatum is on the cover of sports illustrated this month and any experts i've read lately have chosen him as one of the top five players and sometimes number one
Starting point is 00:06:16 in the bleeping world nobody said he's the number one player in the world bob slow down ain't nobody said that ain't nobody said that not is telling the world he doesn't agree. In a 40-minute game, if you can find five minutes of playing time for somebody on the team without hurting yourself. When Kerr did last week, he was in no danger of losing the game. But in this case, they were down 17 points, and he got to worry about losing the game and then not let Tatum get off the bench.
Starting point is 00:06:41 To me, there's a lot to some kind of bias that he has against the Celtics. But it has nothing to do with the goddamn Celtics. It had nothing to do with the Celtics. Did you see the game? Did people actually watch the game? I understand Jason Tatum and the accolades that he's accomplished. I understand him being number one NBA player all team. I understand you winning a championship.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I understand that. The style of play, the fact that we were losing the game by a lot. I think we were down by 17 at some point, if I'm not mistaken. I mean, the core, the nucleus core of the players that we did have in, that they were down, was Jason Tatum going to come off the bench and then bring us back? Is he going to be that dynamic of a player and hit out? No, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Even with what he's accomplished. So, listen, we talked about it before. And I asked you as well. Is it possible for the curve to keep everybody happy? No. Is it possible? No.
Starting point is 00:07:41 It's not. I mean, the only people that even keep happy, Ocho, I think Derek White is extremely happy. He's on the team. I think Tyrese Halliburton, the only way you can keep a guy happy, he has to be comfortable, and he had to have been comfortable playing that role.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Derek White has played all his career without the ball. Holiday, all his career without the ball. Halliburton, like, well, hell, okay. I ain't getting in front of Steph okay I ain't getting in front of Steph I ain't getting in front of LeBron they made the hell of the ball that ain't happening I'm cool okay but for the most part all these other guys need the ball and so I think a lot of turnovers happen because they try to play sometimes Ocho too unselfish nah bro go and take that shot I have a question yes how about this your basketball in the game your
Starting point is 00:08:26 knowledge of the game of basketball is way better than mine during that 17 point deficit who do you sub out and put jason tatum in at that point i'm being i'm being honest and chat that goes for y'all too who do you sub out during that 17 point deficit coming in the second half who do you sub out and put in for me honestly Ocho I think sometimes coaches do get caught up in the moment and all the on all they're thinking about okay my big guns LeBron KD uh uh Steph uh Joel and B because if you look at that game Joel and B got hot but then down the stretch, LeBron, KD, or Steph, those were the only ones that scored,
Starting point is 00:09:09 and pretty much they were the only ones that touched the ball. Took over. And so at that point in time, Ocho, I'm down. I'm like, I'm trying to find a combination. And I think his mom, I think Bob Coos is saying, okay, you're looking for combinations. Well, maybe he's one of the combinations that could have unlocked the lock. I'm just, you know, I'm trying to see
Starting point is 00:09:30 all sides. I do understand sometimes you get caught up in a situation and you're just like, hey. I mean, like I said, we showed you yesterday the minutes. Those big guns long, heavy minutes. I think Steph played 33 minutes
Starting point is 00:09:46 LeBron played 32 minutes Book played a boatload of minutes even KD played a boatload of minutes off the bench so I have a question how many points did Book have? I think Book only had like 4 points how many points did Book have?
Starting point is 00:10:03 he didn't have that many so how about so Jason Tatum could have been in for Book then no maybe but I think the thing is if you look at those guys they had to dig in Ocho so you look at the way they locked in defensively you look at
Starting point is 00:10:19 Kevin Durant sitting in a chair fighting over picks not anything Book was tenacious defensively even Steph Durant sitting in a chair fighting over pigs. Not anything. Book was tenacious defensively. Even Steph. And so I just think that point in time, if I'm going to go down, I'm going down with my big gun. I'm going down with my big gun. I'm going down with Steph.
Starting point is 00:10:41 And I know everybody's going to criticize me and say, how could you lose? But I'm losing with Steph Curry. I'm losing with LeBron James. I'm losing with Kevin Durant, and I'm losing with Joel Embiid. Now, who that other piece is, but I'm losing with those four. That's on curve. I'm losing with those four. So if you go AD, you put Book,
Starting point is 00:10:57 I can live with that, but those four guys are going to pay the damn lion's share of the minute in the fourth quarter. It had nothing to do with no damn Celtics shit, right? No, no. Yeah, okay. He just threw that in there. Okay. I mean, but here's the thing, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:11:14 How about giving those other teams look at what it's taken for us. It took us playing the three best players of this generation having a long, heavy-ass minute just to beat Serbia. And the play defense as well, yeah. Every one of
Starting point is 00:11:29 Team USA players is in the NBA. If I'm not mistaken, only two of Serbia's players, of their 12 players in the NBA. And it took Steph Curry going haywire. It took Kevin Durant not missing a shot in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:11:45 It took Joel Embiid. It took LeBron James and all of his greatness to win by four. Yeah. But I told you, I remember the first time they played Serbia. I said, Ochoa, I was concerned. Kevin Durant was 7-7. LeBron James was 5-5. And they only had a 10-point lead.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Neither guy had missed a shot from the floor. Neither guy had missed a shot from the floor. Neither guy had missed a shot from a three. And you mean to tell me with perfection like that, basically guys are 12 or 13 for 13, and the guys are like 8 for 8 from the three-point line, and we only got a 10-point lead? 10-point lead, yep. So I was concerned from the jump.
Starting point is 00:12:24 The way Serbia came out, man, the beginning of that game, I was like, man, wouldn't that? They out there shooting like they playing 2K. They wasn't missing nothing. And the fact that Curry finally had the game we're used to seeing him have in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:12:39 But Curry saved the day at the beginning of the game. If I don't have anything to lose, Ocho, okay, nobody outside of Serbia expected him to win so I can play free. Right. of the day at the beginning of the game if i don't have anything to lose ocho okay nobody would outside of serbia expect them to win so i can play free right the heaviest thing you can care if you're an athlete is expectations expectations yeah kids that come from prominent families the expectations because i expect you i'm a lawyer your mom's a lawyer or doctor your dad is this or your dad is that and the kids there's a black sheet the. Your dad is this or your dad is that. And the kids, there's a black sheet,
Starting point is 00:13:05 the disdain, what they feel. You're embarrassing this family, right? Expectations. If you're a doctor, you know, a lot of times kids emulate,
Starting point is 00:13:18 you know, my dad was a doctor. So I'm a doctor. My dad plays sports. I play sports. My mom did this. I'm gonna do that. When you don't
Starting point is 00:13:25 meet that. And when I have expectations for, see, if you'll fuck up your whole life, I expect you to end up in prison. You've been fucking up your whole life, but when you've been a straight-A student and all of a sudden, and you do great
Starting point is 00:13:42 things, and then all of a sudden a straight-A bad look, you know, and then all of a sudden, you know, a strike a bad luck, you know, you get on drugs or something happens. Yeah. So the expectations that we have for sports, basketball and the Olympics versus what
Starting point is 00:13:58 the others have. Serbia don't, okay, Serbia don't win the gold medal. Ain't nobody beating up a yoke, ain't nobody beating up Bogdanovich ain't nobody beating up Havik ain't nobody beating them up let America don't come back with the gold medal
Starting point is 00:14:14 oh yeah, it would have been hell boy it would have been hell it would have been hell no, I know you say well, they were up 17. There's expectations. Of course. When you're up 17, but you didn't have that expectation when you're going into the game.
Starting point is 00:14:35 You're like, oh, after you had already gotten beat by 20 points both times. But, hey, look, I mean, as a parent um I could just imagine um my son my son you know my son being me my son is a damn good player now I don't think anybody said Jason Taylor was the best player in the NBA I don't even know if he's top three I don't know anybody that's putting him over Giannis uh uh Yoke or Luca I don't know if anybody's putting him over those three. I think normally, most of the time, those three are guarded as the three best players in the NBA. On a given night,
Starting point is 00:15:12 you know, hey, it could be Steph, it could be KD, it could be Shea, it could be LeBron, it could be Ant. I mean, okay, toss it up, okay. But I think for the most part, Yoke, Giannis, Luka, I don't know how
Starting point is 00:15:27 a lot of people outside of Boston. Now, obviously, Boston's going to say he's better than Jordan. He's better than LeBron, Everman, Kobe, Steph, KD. That's what they're going to say. They're going to say he's better than Larry Bird and Russell. So, I take what they say with a grain of salt. But with that being said,
Starting point is 00:15:44 I'm sure it's frustrating for him. It's frustrating for his mom because this is not what you envisioned. You want to contribute in some kind of fashion. You do. Of course. Based on the kind of year that you've had so far, not only when you win an NBA championship,
Starting point is 00:16:02 now you get to represent your country in Paris at the Olympics and you haven't really been able to contribute the way you'd like I mean I said I thought maybe it didn't bother him as much but hearing the comments after he had to sit down the first time and then you told me about pride you you you gave me that speech on pride and and and wanting to be a part of something special like this and then really not having any contribution if we when we do win go yeah i'm sure you'll probably come out and speak about it after after the fact oh joe when your parents
Starting point is 00:16:38 somebody close to you let's just say for the sake of argument, you and rail was dating when you played in Cincinnati. Yeah. Rail get on a pod. She go on somebody show. I don't know what's going on. They ain't throwing, they ain't throwing Ocho the ball. What are people going to think Ocho?
Starting point is 00:16:56 I'm telling her they ain't throwing me the ball. Pillar talking. Oh, snap. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. Tell me the one that's a good one that's a good one
Starting point is 00:17:05 tell me the time you've ever heard jason's mom retweet or speak i ain't even know his mom's name i ain't gonna lie not to say that i know his dad's name but i'm just saying have you ever heard her retweet something or chime in i mean i so it had it had to come from somewhere maybe people from boston maybe people that know know jt have heard her tweet or say something but i'd never have so this is kind of out of character right given the circumstance that's what i say i mean if my sister you hear my sister say something you automatically know people going soon or that came from shannon or my brother so that's what I say I mean if my sister you hear my sister say something you automatically know people going soon well that came from Shannon or my brother so that's why I've always told athletes one of the things I tell
Starting point is 00:17:50 them I say be careful I say because your friends and your family they speak for you because even if you didn't say it the masses will believe that you did yeah so it's tough it's tough that you did. Yeah. So, it's tough.
Starting point is 00:18:09 It's tough. It's tough. You think her would be forced to play him? Kevin Durant going into the starting lineup tomorrow. Why wouldn't he be? He's coming off the bench. He's been coming off the bench. So, that just goes to show you the importance of this ball game. Those
Starting point is 00:18:27 guys, they might log 34 minutes. Listen, France is not the same. France is not as dangerous as Serbia is. They're on home
Starting point is 00:18:44 soil. Every dog fight hard in his backyard. And ain't got nobody shooting like them Serbians, boy. The Serbians didn't shoot like that before they got against the Americans. You know, every game is about matchups and personnel. Uh-huh. That's going to be a good one.
Starting point is 00:19:13 What time they play? What time is that game? Like 1230, maybe 12 o'clock? 1230. I'll check. Wait, 8, 9, 10, 11. Yeah, 1230. It o'clock 1230 I'll check wait 8, 9, 10, 11 yeah 1230
Starting point is 00:19:28 it's 330 your time no I got my flight to Vegas at 6am okay yes 1230 here yeah KD Twitter fans were ready to go after USA needed a comeback win to beat Serbia in the Olympic Semifinals which led Nuggets fans bragging about Jokic and knowing KD Twitter fans were ready to go after USA needed a comeback win to beat Serbian in the Olympic Semifinals which led Nuggets fans bragging about
Starting point is 00:19:48 Jokic annoying KD to all y'all Nuggets fans nobody gives a who y'all lanes believe is the best player in the league players got major respect for Jokic we don't worship him like y'all do most of us are in Arvis Brilliance trolling you cornballs for rooting against us
Starting point is 00:20:03 trolling you cornballs for rooting against us is a part of the game. Deal with it. Let's talk about fan culture that's been created recently. A lot of huge egos who believe they're the reason for the advancement of the sport. A lot of idol worship.
Starting point is 00:20:18 A lot of people hate and division based off wins and losses. A lot of disrespect of the work being put in by these incredible athletes, mostly by people who don't know what it takes to be good at anything besides talking. Go do something and get out of the way.
Starting point is 00:20:34 KD wasn't done. That's what y'all do. Y'all clowns. Use players to push these corny agendas y'all got. This is the brotherhood, fam. You're not part of it. It's a problem now because social media got you clowns walking around with your chest out like you mean something you don't your takes don't
Starting point is 00:20:50 matter i mean listen that's that's what social media has done yes it's given everyone a voice it's given everyone a voice to to state their opinion to build narratives to cheer for their fans, to tear down other players. I mean, it just, it is what it is. It's the era we're in right now. But, you know, their takes,
Starting point is 00:21:13 fans takes really don't mean nothing. I think I like KD and the fact that he's one of the few players that chimes in. He'll talk to you on Twitter and he'll clap back at you on Twitter. Many of our elite players like that are subdued. They don't talk much. You really don't have access to them. So to see KD engaging, whether it's positive
Starting point is 00:21:36 or whether it's negative, I mean it's refreshing to see. Especially for a super duper star like that who's one of the greatest of all time honestly, to be engaging with us regular folk is cool it's cool yeah i mean that's a look that's what social media has done yeah it's turning you into a coach it's turning you into a gym it turns you into an ex-athlete it's turning you in everybody has i i can be this i can be that but but that's what it's turned you into, everybody has, I can be this, I can be that.
Starting point is 00:22:07 But that's what it's done. You're a jailhouse lawyer. I mean, you know you're a politician. I mean, it's given you the ability because if you've got a couple of followers, it's given you ability to voice your opinion. So you act the guy.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Listen, I can honestly say people that i don't like or i don't agree with what they say i don't follow them i've never gone and i can say never now and all and ever and never i don't like using those but i've never gone on somebody's page and just like try to insult them. But people do that. And then when you light them up, oh, would you talk to your mom like this? You're not my mom.
Starting point is 00:22:52 My mom wouldn't insult me. Oh, would you talk to such and such? But such and such didn't insult me. You did. So I cut your ass up. Oh, FS1, is this your guy? He's not a very good representative. Oh, ESPN. Nah, FS1, is this your guy? He's not a very good representative. Oh, ESPN.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Nah, don't do ESPN and don't do no FS1 now. You didn't think about my job before you insulted me. Now, if I'm walking down the street, you wouldn't say, you wouldn't walk up to me and say what you did, what you said on IG. But see, your thumbs are strong.
Starting point is 00:23:24 You got thumb muscles. Come on, people. But they do. I like it. I understand, Ocho, in this business, like, people take it too far. Just because I say I like LeBron
Starting point is 00:23:41 doesn't mean I hate KD or Steph or Luka or Leonis. But that's the way they take it. Man, you don't eat pancakes. Why you don't like French toast? Well, damn. I like pancakes. I wanted pancakes.
Starting point is 00:23:55 I ain't got no problem with French toast. I ain't got no problem with crepes. I ain't got no problem with Belgian waffles. Right. But see, in their mind, if you like one, you're saying you dislike the other. Oh, so you like Patrick Mahomes. What Brady? You jealous of
Starting point is 00:24:12 Brady? Because I like Patrick Mahomes? That's creating the narrative. Everybody does that. Everybody does that. Oh, you jealous? I'm like, I'm like I'm like
Starting point is 00:24:25 okay if that if that's the stance that y'all want to take I was like for me actually I have more in common with Tom
Starting point is 00:24:34 Tom was a sixth round pick I was a seventh round pick Tom didn't play early on got his opportunity made the most of it got my opportunity
Starting point is 00:24:43 to play made the most of it why would I be jealous right got his opportunity, made the most of it. Got my opportunity to play, made the most of it. Why would I be jealous? Right. No. I'm happy for it. I've had no problems. If you go back and check my resume, I ain't
Starting point is 00:24:58 got no problem giving guys credit. Be it Gronk, be it Antonio Gates, be it Gonzo, be it any of them. I ain't got no problem giving nobody no credit. You great. When guys in NBA, I'm like, hey, I'm not as great at what I did as Kevin Durant is or whatever, but I'm okay with that. But you're fair.
Starting point is 00:25:13 You're also fair when they don't play well. Yes, but here's what people don't get is that when a lot of these athletes that I've been critical of and a lot of these people, when they see me, they say, bro, you hard, but you fair. You fair. That's what they tell me in private.
Starting point is 00:25:32 That's all I need. All y'all there, y'all yakking or you do this and you hating and you meat riding. All I know is when these guys see me and I've been critical of football players and basketball players when they see me publicly they pull me to the side and say bro you hard but you fair that's why I F with you yeah that's all I need coaches
Starting point is 00:25:56 owners general managers owners I've had owners one thing I know about I love about you is that you do your homework. Yeah. You be on.
Starting point is 00:26:09 He's like, I don't be knowing where you be getting your information from, but you be right on the money. Right. I see, I've seen owners and I walk by, I've said something and they'll walk by me and that's all I need.
Starting point is 00:26:27 That's all I need. That's all I need. Cause I've done this. And another thing y'all be in touch about Ashby telling Shannon that stuff. Y'all think he'd be knowing all that. Ash don't be putting nothing in my ear. Right. Ashley, Ash can't talk to me.
Starting point is 00:26:39 When she wants me to do something, she'll point to the iPad, but no guys, the reason one of the reasons why i went on espn and we normally have researchers the first week that i went on espn and i ended up getting the job with skip when skip left with the fs1 i didn't have a researcher i did my own they couldn't believe the knowledge that I had. I always felt all this
Starting point is 00:27:07 useless information that I thought was useless. I knew it would come in at some point in time. The knowledge that I have about track and field, the knowledge that I have about football, about basketball, about baseball, and the history of the game. I was like, man, what if they ever created a show where I would have
Starting point is 00:27:23 to use all my knowledge? Not just a particular knowledge. Yes, I watch because I'm not on vacation. I'm not out partying. So when things were going on, I'm watching. That's what I tell people. I'm glad I was born in 1968
Starting point is 00:27:39 because a lot of the stories that y'all be talking about, I saw it. I saw it. I saw it. I go back to the 84 Olympics. I remember Bird and Magic in the NCAA Finals. I remember the first when it was tape delayed. Y'all can't get mad at my knowledge, can you? Damn, I thought y'all would like that I know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:28:00 At first, man, he don't even know what he's talking about. He ain't do that. Now I know what I'm talking about. Oh, he think he know it all damn how do i win everybody that knows me knows and i've said this my favorite sport to watch is track and field yeah it's my favorite the world championship when stuff is coming on oh i'm gonna get i'm gonna i'm gonna get it i'm gonna get it oh i'm gonna watch it i love it i love the competition i love the history of it but i was like well damn i thought y'all would be like damn man i'll be i'll be on this game oh yeah oh that ninja thing he know it all
Starting point is 00:28:38 i don't know i don't know everything oh Joe. I know a little bit about everything, though. Yeah. Yeah. See, the way you the way you know your knowledge of the game of basketball and your knowledge of the game of of track and field is I'm like that with soccer. I can retain information. Going back, going back and going back in history. Yes. With soccer. Massey here talk about soccer for hours and hours and hours and hours. Different generations from different generations. And football a little bit. And I can only go with football. I can only go back so far.
Starting point is 00:29:13 I can only go back so far. But see, that's the thing. Ocho, what I've been able to do, I was able to retain information. That's what I can do really, really well. I can retain information. I'm a visual learner.
Starting point is 00:29:25 And the reason why I'm able to retain so much information is because I saw it. I saw the 84 Olympics. I saw the Seoul Olympics in Barcelona and Atlanta. I saw it in Athens and Sydney.
Starting point is 00:29:41 So I can retain that information. Football and what happened in basketball and what happened in the history of it. If you see, I retain information. I really do. A lot of it my sister-in-law is like, boy, why you
Starting point is 00:29:59 know that? I just you don't think about it at the time mojo but you know yeah i think for me because my grandfather and my grandmother was such a big influence and i hung on everything that they said i just retained it all i just and you know back then and if you're from the south you know what i'm talking about people didn't repeat themselves over and over. You better pay attention or they're going to knock hell out of you. Yeah. First time thunder, next time lightning.
Starting point is 00:30:30 All right, okay. You ain't got to tell people once. I'm listening. Yes, sir. No, sir. Yes, ma'am. No, ma'am. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:30:39 No, sir. But I just had the ability to retain a lot of information. And hold it. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify.
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Starting point is 00:31:39 Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No.
Starting point is 00:33:11 It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
Starting point is 00:33:37 The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Muhammad Ali was never afraid to express himself loudly and boldly and stays true to form in Ali and Me, an eight-part Audible original. Guided by his own words, this series explores Ali's life and legacy through never-before-heard audio recordings and discussions with those who knew him best. Muhammad had this real sense of his own personal values and principles, things he believed in, his own sense of conviction. Those convictions never wavered.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Hosted by Muhammad's wife, Lani Ali, and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster, John Ramsey, Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. young person, he gave credence to my audacity.
Starting point is 00:35:08 There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and me now on audible. Joel and B suggest he could play for Cameroon, not the USA in the 2028 Olympics. And B said, it's been a good experience. It's been a grind being away from home and family for a few weeks. But the group of guys that we've made it easy. Paris is a great city.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Next one is in LA. Excuse me. It might not be with Team USA. It might be with Cameroon. Switching teams like that, not so easy, according to The Athletic, because he's suited up for the American side in international competition. You would need a waiver from both FIBA
Starting point is 00:35:52 and Team USA to play from Cameroon. I don't think that's happening. I don't think that's happening. You think the booing has gotten to him in France? I mean, nobody likes to get boo happening. You think the booing has gotten to them in France? I mean, nobody likes to get booed. I think the thing is, Ocho, when you play a sport, you get it.
Starting point is 00:36:11 They only boo the good players. Yeah, for the most part. The Patriot fans are different. They're like, hey, 83, you suck. You too sharp. I don't suck. I love him. He on the bench. I don't suck.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I'm pretty good. I don't suck. He sucks. You right. He does. But since I'm next to him, they throw me into it too. But you understand, don't you? Oh, yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:36:38 When you play a four and you boo, they don't boo the guy that ain't getting off the bench. Mm-hmm. I like it, though. I mean, depending on who you are, depending on how you're built, you like it. You enjoy it. You really enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Nah, they don't boo bad players. They don't really know. So, Ocho. Yeah. Carlos Yolo, the gymnast representing Philippines who won the men's floor exercise yeah yeah uh men's floor exercise and bought gold medals in paris uh accused his mother of withdrawing prize money he had won from his bank account she oversaw without telling him my mother
Starting point is 00:37:19 has access to my accounts my monthly sports allowance carlos said on tiktok my mother had access to my accounts and my monthly sports allowance when i finally got control of my accounts i found out she had taken money out y'all do that to your kids yeah yeah what most definitely come on you gotta be a low ass i don't know if this is true but you gotta be a low ass parent to do something you gotta think how many times this happens though not just sports young actors young actresses that don't have access to their money till they reach a certain age
Starting point is 00:37:56 it happens money is the root of all evil especially with family especially with family is the root of all evil. Always. And it, especially with family, especially with family.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Well, I don't get me started on that, man. You know, we, you know how that, you know how that car go. Many horror stories.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Yeah. I mean, many horror stories. I couldn't even go. I couldn't even get conscious. Take money from my brother my sister my kids matter of fact
Starting point is 00:38:31 when shoot I had a I had a stove and a washing dry in my name when I was an infant
Starting point is 00:38:42 yeah we get that Ocho but if you got your mom on your account and you got a million dollars in there and you like, all of a sudden you go back and you got $700,000. And ain't nobody but you and your mom. Man, you're going to feel some type of way, Ocho. Yeah, that's hurtful.
Starting point is 00:38:58 That's hurtful. And you know, you already take care of anything she needs. She good. That's hurtful. Oh, I remember them days. That's oh joe i would rather you i would don't steal from me i would just give it to you yeah anyway i'm gonna give it to you and say okay we can't we can't be what we once were right moving on that's okay that's okay oh joe it's okay yeah if it means if it means that much to you right that you would like ruin the relationship that we have by stealing it i'd rather give it to you let the relationship go, and just remember the good times.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Because I can't remember if when you do something that deceitful and that bad to me, I will never say anything bad about you. It's a wrap, huh? Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:39:57 For sure. Yeah. You don't do people like that. I just... I think, you know what? I've always had a praying grandmother. My sister, the prayer sister.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I've been very fortunate. And I'm not just talking about since I've been able to launch my media company and have a lot of other things going on in general, in general, in general. Yeah. But I think the thing that a lot of people don't see is that how I treat people in everyday life and what
Starting point is 00:40:25 i do and i think that's why i've been so blessed i think i really do oh joe i really do because i help a lot of people and don't respect anything back right i know if man if i give my you think if i give my homeboy 25 000 i expect it back expect it back. How? When he make $50,000, he make $75,000. How the hell he going to pay me back $25,000? Right. No, you good. The fact of the matter is that stuff that I've done, you know, and don't nobody know but me and you.
Starting point is 00:41:00 That's what that's for. Yes, sir. Certain things you just don't expect. I don't. I'm don't i don't i'm trying to say ocho i think in the last 30 years i've only had one person pay me back when i've loaned the money one and he didn't pay it back all of that say man look here give me half and you keep half and a call it even call it we call it even. Yeah. That's how I operate.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Man, my homeboy, my homeboy, man, Bucket, you hear me talk about Bucket all the time. I'll get ready to get rid of my Range Rover. He looked at the blue. I said, man, you've been talking about this car for the longest time. You want it? I'll sell it to you. He said, I said, give me 20,000. He like, the blue book value on the car
Starting point is 00:41:48 was 64,000. Right. And the reason why I sold it to him for 20, because I didn't want him to think, look at me like he a charity case. Because I don't look at my home was like that
Starting point is 00:42:06 they work they're hard-working people they got wives and so i didn't want to think man yeah i said as a matter of fact and there's a warranty on the truck for another four years so you ain't got nothing to worry about he's like man he's like man you should i said you coming to get it or not that's what i'm saying i said you coming to get it or not i said because hey i will let it go back to the dealership they're gonna because i'm gonna get another a new one i said they're gonna give me more than that but i'll sell it to you for that bucket i beat a book uh ocho the truck was like i think four years old you probably had no miles on that bitch i had 20 i had 19 20 000 miles on it right it was a supercharge yeah oh you go oh you got oh you got that big boy yeah but i want my homeboy to have the big boy too. Right,
Starting point is 00:43:05 right, right. Anything he got going on, he don't like, a lot of times, he don't like, he don't like tell me stuff that's going on. So I have to,
Starting point is 00:43:13 you know, he'll slip up. Right, by accident? Yeah, he'll slip up. Mm-hmm. So,
Starting point is 00:43:20 I just have, I just take care of a lot of stuff. Right, right. But that's what, that's what, for me, care of a lot of stuff. Right, right. But that's what, for me, that's the best thing about having money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:31 This stuff here. You got to be careful too, man. You got to be careful. Your immediate circle that you've known for a long time, you feel good about that. Oh, yeah. You also have some people that'll use you. They'll use you and abuse you.
Starting point is 00:43:48 You got to watch out for them. You got to be able to tell the difference between the two. Hey, look here. Ain't a whole lot of people around me. Oh, no. My circle been the same since I was an adolescent. It's been the same.
Starting point is 00:44:04 I don't do that, Ocho. Mm-mm. Nope. Hey, he called me, hey, homeboy. Hey, man, I'm coming. Hey, you good? Yeah. Super Bowl, playoff.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Hey, I'm a homeboy. Hey. He's like, man, because I had tickets to the Super Bowl. But he done been to all the games. Right. I get them passing, stand on the sideline. You know, anytime my homeboys come, they stand on the sideline. They ain't sitting in the stands.
Starting point is 00:44:30 I'm going down. Now, in Baltimore, I had a suite. Me and Ray had a suite together. So, you know, all the food was up there. They stayed up there. But when I was in Denver, oh, my homeboys on the sideline. Ain't nobody sitting in the stands. Hey, they in the locker room. who oh they were
Starting point is 00:44:47 shot okay oh hey mike would ask him like who you like uh sharp my homeboy oh okay so which one are you you uh you bucket he's like yeah call you he's starting like yeah yeah right right yeah but oh no no my homeboys get Friday when you got pizza and chicken. Yeah. Man, my homeboys in the table, they're eating before we get out the field. I'm going to take care of mine. Bucket and burns?
Starting point is 00:45:18 Yeah. Oh. Check this out. Browns and 49ers have agreed to send Brandon IU to Cleveland in exchange for Amari Cooper, a second and a fifth round pick. Problem is, Brandon IU
Starting point is 00:45:34 said no to the trade. He does not want to be in New England or Cleveland. Bro, you want money or not? Well, New England, I understand the quarterback situation is a little iffy, but Cleveland?
Starting point is 00:45:53 How you turn that down? Ocho, do you want money? Yeah, but also you don't want your production to fall. I tell you what you can get great production for $16 million or you can get crappy production for $30 million
Starting point is 00:46:10 now which one you want Ocho? yeah listen I would have been over there with Deshaun so quick quick so damn so now what are they going to do? i don't know i just don't think i don't think you're
Starting point is 00:46:30 gonna miss no checks though nah man man i can't man i ain't giving back no money on show i ain't i ain't missing no practice boy oh no i've missed practice i ain't gonna lie with you i've missed practice because in 92 my contract was up oh Ocho. Right, right, right, right, right, right. But also, I mean, I ain't never had to deal with this type of situation. Like, it ain't, it's there are certain players where you just can't
Starting point is 00:46:56 play this game. You can't play this game. You ain't got no choice but to open up your checkbook. Hey. He ain't getting taxed because he's not getting fined because he hadn't signed he hadn't signed his tender right but man please i wasn't missing no check i mean the 92 but uh ocho i had um my contract was up and i had just made 73 so hell i figured anything over 100,000 gonna be pretty good
Starting point is 00:47:26 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah most definitely but the thing the only reason i held out a little longer than what i that i held out 92 was the summer olympics in barcelona i like hold on wait the olympics over i get out there i was like right there why is it summer living yeah i watched Live for Christie with the 100 meters. I watched Quincy Watt. Yeah, I watched all that. Gale Devis with the 100.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Hit the last hurdle with the 110. I watched all that, Ocho. And then, I was so anxious to get back, Ocho. I was supposed to go by the general manager's office and then go to practice. You didn't even go to sign. You went straight to. I was supposed to go by the general manager's office. Sign. And then go to practice. You didn't even go sign. You went straight to practice. Went straight to practice.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Went straight to practice, Ocho. They's like, hey. Ocho, I'm dressed and everything. Right. And I guess he radioed down and told them that we hadn't seen each other yet. They were like, Shannon's here at practice.
Starting point is 00:48:27 He's like, he can't practice. He hadn't signed. Until you signed, yeah. So I'm out there for the morning practice, Ocho. Nah, you can't practice. You got to go sign the contract. They said, we'll see you this afternoon. I'm like, oh, man. But I loved it, though, Joe.
Starting point is 00:48:45 That was my dream. That's my dream. And I think the thing is that you could tell guys that play football because they love it. And you could tell guys that play football because they can make. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You can tell. There's a difference.
Starting point is 00:49:00 And usually one of them, at some point, you get exposed now. You get exposed. So once you get that big money, I mean, it'll get me started. You've seen it. You've seen it plenty of times. I have. You've seen it plenty of times.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Caleb Williams is on the Tom Brady TV 12 diet. He can no longer eat dairy, milk, cheese, yogurt, or ice cream. No beers, wine, or any alcohol beverage. Bacon. What? Hey, uh. Hey, Raelle.
Starting point is 00:49:34 You got something. You already got something lined up for me, right? I got you. You know, we gonna play that shot on Kniece role. You know what I'm saying? I got you. I got you. That's my shot. Where I'm saying? I got you. I got you. That's my shot. Where I'm coming.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Oh, Joe, what'd you say? What real thing? She just got, she just, just flew in. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:57 He can't, he can't eat bacon, sausage, deli meat, red meat should be avoided. Right. Man. What about pepperoni? hey hey listen i don't
Starting point is 00:50:09 need anything to start with pork pork chop pork loin you don't eat nothing like that bacon what about bacon and pepperoni isn't i oh come on now i mean i'm in the i'm in the muslim reserves ocho one weekend out of the month and two weeks out of the year i don't eat no poke hey bread pasta cereal baked goods can't eat that pre-packaged snacks chip cookies can't eat that white sugar hot fuck trost food trost corn syrup refined sugars can't eat that cake pastries candies can't eat that Wheat, rye, barley Can't eat that Tomatoes, eggplant, peppers, potatoes Can't eat that
Starting point is 00:50:48 Beans, lentils, chickpeas, soy products Can't eat that Canola oil, soybean oil, refined vegetable oil Can't eat that Trans fat or hydrogenated oils Can't eat that Coffee, caffeinated teas, energy drinks Can't drink that
Starting point is 00:51:03 Packaged fruit, juice, certain fruits drinks. Can't drink that. Packaged fruit juice. Certain fruits. Can't eat or drink that. Table salt. Can't eat that. MSG. Can't do that. The two have been in touch and Brady has become a close mentor of Williams. So what can he eat?
Starting point is 00:51:27 See, like all that he could eat is who are man to tease their own to tease their own man i think it's i mean it's to me it's a bit extreme uh you do what works for you yeah uh if it worked for tom it doesn't necessarily mean it's gonna work for you following his diet is one thing, but there's certain intangibles. There are certain intangibles that Tom has that can be taught that he had to play the position to play the quarterback position. And I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:56 your intake and what you consume. I mean, whatever, if you think it's going to make you play, play better, or you think it's going to make you win six, seven Superbowls. I mean, so be it but I mean to me that's
Starting point is 00:52:07 that's absolutely fucking ridiculous yeah I mean there's a lot of stuff on there now Ocho you know me and man my diet was jam packed I ate everything was packaged I ate X amount for breakfast X amount for lunch X amount for dinner blah blah blah but man all
Starting point is 00:52:24 this stuff here man y'all'all lost your damn mind. Think I'm not finna eat some of this stuff. Wait, I can't see. Can you see me? Yeah. Yeah. Hold on, I done messed up something. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:52:36 I don't know, my eyes. Oh, there you go, there you go, there you go. I messed up. Oh, man, you had hair all of a sudden, don't you? Maybe it was something. No, you know, I hit something on the computer and it went back to the home screen yeah I don't know what it is
Starting point is 00:52:49 I don't know what it is so basically the only thing he can eat is like fish chicken turkey I guess broccoli asparagus damn I just Broccoli. Asparagus.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Damn. I just I understand. But come on now. I know he's the greatest quarterback of all time. But it ain't got nothing to do with what he ate. There's certain intangibles, certain qualities. I think it might have had something to do while he was able to play so long but tom brady yeah he ain't gonna make you throw the ball accurate
Starting point is 00:53:31 no not at all it might help you ocho uh ward off some of the injuries uh you'll be able to recover faster faster but tom brady's ability to process information and to know when to go in that football and to be able to retain information for 20 plus years. That's what it is. That's all it is. That's what it is. But, I mean, hey, Ocho, if he... But you know the mind is a powerful thing now.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Yeah, oh, it is. If he believes it's going to help him... Yeah. It's going to help him. Yeah. I like it. I like it. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles,
Starting point is 00:54:14 break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that.
Starting point is 00:54:38 May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:55:07 or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode,
Starting point is 00:55:19 I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and
Starting point is 00:55:46 help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair.
Starting point is 00:56:37 And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see muhammad ali was never afraid to express himself loudly and boldly and stays true to form in ali and me an eight-part audible original guided by his own words this series explores ali's life and legacy through never before heard audio recordings and discussions with those who knew him best. Muhammad had this real sense of his own personal values and principles, things he believed in, his own sense of conviction. Those convictions never wavered.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Hosted by Muhammad's wife, Lani Ali, and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster, John Ramsey, Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence
Starting point is 00:58:26 to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. Oh, Joe, now it's time for our last segment of the day, and it's called Q&A. Q&A.
Starting point is 00:58:48 Q&A. Lanny Ray said, I've been watching breaking, I've been watching breaking today. Breakdance. Man! Let me finish this. Love the new event.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Did you guys bust out the cardboard breakdance back in the day? Ocho, are you going to challenge American breakers? Or like, who are you challenging in runners and the day. Ocho, are you going to challenge American breakers or like who are you challenging runners and swimmers? Ocho! The Japanese, we invented breakdancing and we didn't even win the first goal. The Japanese
Starting point is 00:59:13 girl won, yeah! I mean, they, listen, I haven't seen breakdancing in so long. In so long. And I haven't seen anyone actually breakdancing in so long I mean we gotta get we gotta prepare
Starting point is 00:59:29 we have to prepare and train for that what's the last movie what's the breakdance movie from a long time ago from the 80s you remember you got colors you got what was that one with Sh uh, uh, Shabba Do and Boogaloo Shrimp? I think I, I came out, I can't remember the name of it.
Starting point is 00:59:52 You know, you had the Crumpet movie in the 2000s. You had, uh, you had, what was that movie with, uh, uh, B2K in it? Okay. With a bar yawn in them? Uh, Step Up. Is it Step Up or? No. No, before that. It's about a real breakd Step Up. Is it Step Up? No. No, before that.
Starting point is 01:00:05 It's about a real breakdance movie. I forgot the name of it. You Got Served. You Got Served. Oh, that's old. No, that ain't old. No, no, no. How old do you think breakdancing is?
Starting point is 01:00:16 I mean, yeah, this is the movie I'm talking about from the 80s. I mean, it's just breakdancing. That's all it was. Breakdance. You think that's the name of the movie? Yeah. The 80s movie. What they call breakdance?
Starting point is 01:00:31 We talk about with Shabba-Doo and Boogaloo Shrimp? That's the name of it? Breakdance? Electric Boogaloo? I think that might be it right there. Electric Boogaloo. That's the last time I seen breakdancing. That's the only reason we didn't win gold.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Oh, Crush Groove? That might have been it. I don't know. I don't remember. How we invent something? I tell you what, they better not put cornhole in there in 2028 and we lose. Listen,
Starting point is 01:01:02 I bet we win gold in breakdancing In 2028 Now that we know And we can practice for the next four years They been Knew that breaking was going to be in the Olympics So what the hell they were doing then You think so
Starting point is 01:01:18 I ain't even know Until the three weeks before the Olympics You ain't no breaker So you didn't need to know I used to be Don't do that I ain't even know until the, what, three weeks before the Olympics. You ain't no breaker. So you didn't need to know. I used to be. Don't do that. I used to be.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Damn. It's all good. How they do that to us? It's all good. It ain't no all good. How we going to lose something we invented? I mean, we winning all the other things we didn't invent. We ain't won bad men.
Starting point is 01:01:53 We ain't won table tennis. Hey, table tennis. Young boy from China. The real deal, boy. Man, you see them kids practicing? I watched that gold medal game, huh? You see them kids I watched that gold medal game huh you see them kids
Starting point is 01:02:07 practicing oh yeah man them kids can barely see over the table and they just crazy your hand
Starting point is 01:02:20 eye coordination has to be on point Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. Dr. Shannon Sharp. I said it once, I'll say it again. One day, some university is going to give honorary doctor for his work in this business.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Mic drop. Watch and see. Well, Doc, I appreciate that. I just think it's to try to be hopefully help people that can't help themselves um be a beacon to let people see what is possible um a lot of time you know what I tell people, Ocho? Yeah. People think it's smart. People think it's this, it's that. You know the biggest key to success in business? Relationships.
Starting point is 01:03:19 Very important. You never know you'll need somebody. You can't burn, don't burn no bridges. You never know. The't need somebody you can't burn don't burn no bridges you never know the toes you step on today might be on the foot connected to the leg that leads to the butt you kiss tomorrow careful how you treat people yeah for how you talk to people you never know you never ever know. That was one thing since I was a little bitty boy. My grandmother would say, son, be careful how you treat people because you'll never
Starting point is 01:03:52 know who you'll ask to hand you your last glass of water. That stuck with me. I mean, I probably could have been no more than about six or seven when she said that the very first time. And that stuck with me. It doesn't matter. You the CEO. I mean, hey.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Ask anybody. See, go ask anybody that worked at Fox or worked at CBS. I treat everybody the same, whether you was Eric Shanks, whether you was Sean McManus, you was security, you was a runner.
Starting point is 01:04:29 I believe everybody deserves a certain level of respect regardless of their job description. That's just the way I am. Everybody might not feel that way, might not be that way, but hey, that's how I am. I give everybody a certain level of respect
Starting point is 01:04:45 you ain't got to respect me just not gonna let you disrespect me right and then when the disrespect comes i just move away that was it and it's okay i don't want anything bad to happen to you i don't want to see you go down it just knows that I'm at a different table than you. And hey, you got your table, you eat. I want you to eat as much as you can. It's just that you and I not going to eat at the same table again. That's all
Starting point is 01:05:14 I'm saying. But, nah. Comedian Romeo Mack said, can you wish my mother a happy 63rd birthday? Her name is Celine Scurry. She loves Ocho. I'm trying to challenge you ahead of Spello Cinco live in Atlanta, August 27th.
Starting point is 01:05:33 I'm pretty pleased with Sha'Carri on top. Romeo, tell your mom happy birthday. Happy birthday, Miss Celine. Your son, Romeo, wanted to wish you a happy birthday. Hopefully, you enjoyed your day. Hopefully you had a lot got a lot of birthday cake. You got a lot of gifts, presents, but you know what the birth, the best
Starting point is 01:05:53 gift is life. Yeah. You saw a day you had never ever seen before and you know what? Someone didn't get an opportunity that you got today. So hopefully you're enjoying your day. You're surrounded by loved ones and friends and family,
Starting point is 01:06:10 and enjoy your day. Romeo, see you at ATL. Yes, sir. Nelly Bella said, you should start a business making personal announcements for people. You always lift people's spirits. I mean, it ain't that hard, Ocho,
Starting point is 01:06:24 to be nice to people oh yeah that's easy give people give people their level of respect i mean i mean i i think it comes from when i was uh like when i do the intro all night when a club shea shea right you know i i read through the accolade through the accolades. That's their moment. I want people to know what you've done, how great you've been at your given craft. Right. I don't think it takes anything to do that,
Starting point is 01:06:58 to give people, you know, you study, you research. People want their praise. People say they don't want validation, but I want you to. You do. They do. Of course you do. Kemba Norwood Jr. asked, who is the greatest R&B singer of all time? Of all time?
Starting point is 01:07:17 Mm-hmm. I mean, is he R&B? Marvin Gaye! Is he R&B Marvin Gaye if he R&B Bobby Brown said he was I'm just saying does Marvin Gaye count I mean I would
Starting point is 01:07:39 have to go by me you have to look at Marvin Gaye yeah you'd have to look at Luther you'd have to look at marvin gaye yeah you'd have to look at luther you'd have to look at mary look at teddy p donnie hathaway donna hathaway i mean it's too many and they made too much the music back then was so good yeah and still resonates today too many too many r&&B. People like him. They might not have liked what he's done. R. Kelly.
Starting point is 01:08:11 You got Usher. Yeah. I like them old school. Them old schoolers you just called, man, can't be touched. I love today's era. Do we count Stevie? I don't know do we count stevie wonder you got baby face oh
Starting point is 01:08:31 that's another good one but there was some heavy hitters back there no joke boy the music was different that has a bit they had some heavy different it was different that it had. Nobody mentioned no hoo-ha and nobody talked about no pee. They were just talking about, hey, he just said he wanted to turn out the light. That's all he wanted to do. He said, can't we take a shower together?
Starting point is 01:08:56 Together. He just wanted to put some hot oil on you, baby. Listen, he watched TV till TV went off. Oh, that's Lenny Wynja. Lenny, you know what kind of pain you got to be in to watch TV till TV went off? Yes.
Starting point is 01:09:13 And you take your homeboy, you don't know what it's like to be in love. Yeah, he told him, he said, maybe you've never been in love like I've been in love. Not been in love. Maybe you've never felt what I've felt. I've felt. Come on, man. But this is what I told him. Yeah. Come on, man. You know, sometimes it get lonely. Yeah. not been in love maybe you've never felt what i felt come on man i told you yeah you know
Starting point is 01:09:26 you know sometimes you get lonely yeah oh come on now listen the the music back then you could feel the fucking pain they went through in the music yeah like if you sit there and listen to it man man she really did it not on buddy oh yeah she had it that was love oh joe yeah yeah well you got the billy reed you to make music like that you really got to go through the ringer man yeah uh i don't think james brown R&B no that's more that's Souls they call him the Godfather of Soul
Starting point is 01:10:12 of Soul yeah damn that's a good one oh yeah you had P-Bo you had Freddie Jackson oh I forgot about P-Bo Bryce they had some heavy hitters back then heavy heavy hits Bo, you had Freddie Jackson. Oh, I forgot about P-Bo Bryce. Oh, yeah. They had some heavy hitters back then. I mean, heavy,
Starting point is 01:10:28 heavy hits. Boy, man. I know what I'm finna listen to tonight. What you gonna listen to? Everybody say Curtis Mayfield. Hold up. Didn't Curtis Mayfield? Hold up. Didn't he marry Sam Cooke? He and Sam Cooke were friends. Didn't he marry...
Starting point is 01:10:45 Sam Cook, too? Oh, man. Oh, that's Sam. Too many. Sam was... Too many. Yeah. Cassie said,
Starting point is 01:10:57 Uncle Nocho, what's the craziest thing someone said to you from the sidelines or from the crowd when you're in the middle of a game? Much love from Vegas. Damn, I can't remember none of that back then. to you from the sidelines or from the crowd when you're in the middle of a game. Much love from Vegas. Damn, I can't remember none of that back then.
Starting point is 01:11:10 I mean... They say some of every goddamn thing. Cussing me out. My favorite thing, it's not even favorite, the funny thing, opposing fans weren't even mean. Remember when I jumped in the dog pound? Yeah, and they shoved your ass right back up out of there.
Starting point is 01:11:27 They pulled me in and shut. Man, my entire, you know, I don't drink now. My entire uniform was just smell like beer. The rest of the game. Oh, man. You know what? You know what? I think the thing is, for the most part, people are kind of like,
Starting point is 01:11:51 I don't know what it is, but I think a lot of fans realize that I can't be the NFL player. I don't know what makes them think they can be the basketball player or baseball player because they say some ridiculous stuff to basketball and football players, but I think
Starting point is 01:12:06 they look like unless it's the point of the kicker, I probably can't do I probably can't do nothing with any of them. I definitely ain't going to do nothing with the D-line maybe the quarterback maybe I could be
Starting point is 01:12:21 as long as the quarterback ain't Cam Yeah Maybe some quarterbacks man, shoot maybe I could be maybe I could be the as long as the quarterback ain't Cam yeah give me some quarterbacks man shoot as long as the quarterback ain't Cam Ocho they might have a chance but you ain't doing that
Starting point is 01:12:33 I mean no man quarterbacks today are ragdolls some of these civilians man yeah for sure ragdoll
Starting point is 01:12:41 Ronnie O'Williams please bring Ocho to Twisted Waffle when y'all come to New Orleans in 2025 I look forward to seeing you in the Big Easy yeah that's where we went the Twisted Waffle that was the name of that place the Twisted Waffle that they had all the waffles yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:12:57 that's a good place they have some good waffles Ash will be there Ash is... She don't remember this, but y'all remember the commercial? The live commercial with Mikey? Mikey tried... Mikey. Ash, there's Mikey.
Starting point is 01:13:15 There ain't anything Ash will not try and she won't eat. Little Mikey. But just like she do it. She'll get a little piece like... You should've just got a big old a big fork full of furs you done got like five fork fulls now
Starting point is 01:13:33 I'm like man please they look at that Keith's wet that's another good one Chris Brown yeah that Keith's with. That's another good one. Chris Brown. Yeah. You know what, Ochoa? You can't pick one because it's too many.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Yeah, I mean, if you put a gun to most people here, people probably not going to get past Marvin Gaye too much. It might be close, but I think when it's all said and done, I think Marvin Gaye. I think Marvin Gaye would win. Over Teddy
Starting point is 01:14:14 P? Yeah. I do. Oh, them boys made some music, man. Yeah. I mean, you got the Isley Brothers, you got Luther, you got Teddy P, you got got you know you got luther you got teddy p you got barry white you got uh marvin gaye you know you got baby fame you got key sweat forgot you forgot gerald laverte gerald laverte usher donnie hathaway
Starting point is 01:14:38 chris brown r ke Oh, too many. Oh, I got one for you right now. It's Al Green. Who you got? I got one for you. Who you got? You don't know nothing about this. You don't know nothing about Dave Hollister.
Starting point is 01:14:54 I do know Dave Hollister, yeah. Come on now. Yeah. I'm going to take you back. Music Soulchild. Okay. Wait, is that Music Soulchild R&B? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:04 It's R&B right yeah okay man stop playing you remember Coffee Brown you remember the group Coffee Brown I don't what about um golly what's
Starting point is 01:15:24 the name of that group, man? Oh, my God, what's the name of that group, man? Oh, Joe, what's that guy that you said you wanted? Oh, I meant to tell you. He watches the show. He told me to tell you what's up. Coleman Dominguez. Yo, for real? Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Hey. I saw him at the airport dang cole what's up baby yeah yeah oh i gotta tell you this story so you know ocho go back to the nail shop yeah oh the same one same nail shop hey i go in the nail shop. Dude standing behind the counter. Shut up. What's up, my man? Club J. The Asian dude. He Asian, don't you know? Right, right.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Yeah. What's up, bro? He said, bro? Yeah. He said, Club J. Hey, hey. LBJ is where it's at. I'm looking at him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:22 Jordan looking at me. That's how I'm looking at him. He's like hey yeah can we get a picture let me get my nails done let me get my feet done oh man it's crazy
Starting point is 01:16:35 he's crazy man that's funny he came with that thing I was like he was lit yes he's behind the counter so when I walk in the door
Starting point is 01:16:44 he's like Shannon what's up, my man? Club Shay Shay. Yeah, you famous now. Anytime you cross over there, you famous. Ah, man, I was laughing, man. I said, ah, man. Okay, bro. We good.
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Starting point is 01:17:46 8484 spelled out. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. Thank you, Bobby Fink. The gold medal winning world record setting, 1500 meter swimmer for the men. He set the record. He saved the men's swim team from a lot of embarrassment. They're still embarrassed, but they did get a goal.
Starting point is 01:18:06 They weren't shut out. The U.S. women cruise past Australia and will play in their eighth consecutive Olympic gold medal game. They'll face host country France, as the men will do tomorrow. The women's 4x100 meter relay team team anchored by Sha'Carri Richardson wins the gold medal Melissa Jefferson handed to T.T. Terry who handed to Gabby Thomas who handed to Sha'Carri
Starting point is 01:18:32 and Sha'Carri did what she needed to do to bring the gold home so there's that and so with that being said thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap Olympic Edition I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85, the rock runner extraordinaire, the bingo ring of fame, honoree, the legendary, the pro bowler,
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