Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Lakers aren’t interested in trading Austin Reaves and Brock Purdy signs new deal with 49ers!

Episode Date: May 17, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Joe Johnson react to the Los Angeles Lakers aren’t looking to trade Austin Reaves unless its for a top tier big man, Brock Purdy signs new deal with the 49ers, and Boomer went off on Caleb Williams calling him entitled and much more!01:47 - Lakers not interested in trading Austin Reaves09:00 - Purdy reaches agreement20:41 - Boomer went off on Caleb Williams28:00 - NFL owners to vote on new seeding31:38 - 10 New Orleans inmates escape36:48 - Q & Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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unless it's for a top-tier big man per Dan Wokie. Lakers scouts and executives here in Chicago have openly spoken about the team needs at the center position, and it's obvious priority for Palenka and Reddick. The team has shown no interest in using Reeves in a trade that nets them anything less than a

top-tier big, and there aren't any of those available. With the two most common linked in the early stages of offseason is Brooklyn Knicks' Claxton and dallas daniel gafford reeves is one of the few tradable assets the lakers have joe what kind of player do you think trading austin reeves would net uh the lakers gotta be a big they look at nothing but a big mbiid? Nah, they ain't getting no Embiid for no Austin Reed. That ain't possible. They ain't doing that, Ocho.

Philly ain't doing that. The money got to line up, Ocho. Well, you said, I mean, well, shit. The money ain't going to line up with nobody if you want Embiid anyway. Well, you might have to get off Austin Reed and Rui. Okay. And what's my man that was starting at the center spot? Anyway, well, you might have to get off Austin Reeves and Rui. Okay. And, uh,

what was my man that was starting at the center spot? Uh, Oh, Jackson Hayes. Yeah. Cause they don't need to be, they need to be in return. Right.

Oh, well, Jackson Hayes is going to be a friend. So you're going to let you sign it and package him. Yeah. I mean, you got to make the deal where he might get blessed. Right.

Right. Yeah. Cause Joel is about to, I don't know. going to have to make the deal work. He might get blessed from that. Right. Yeah. Because Joel is about to enter. I don't know. Is he about to enter? Does he have another year? Because he just signed a three-year, $193 million extension. I know the Lakers want to make a big splash.

They ain't really trying to go out here and just. The Lakers always do big splash. They ain't trying to do nothing mediocre. Yeah, they want to start it with Will, and then it came with Kareem. And, you know, they got Shaq. They got LeBron. They got AD. Luka.

Luka, yes. They better not let Joel and B go over there with Luka and Bron. Let me just start over here. This is a blackout game for you. Man. Yeah, so it kicks in this year, right? 25, 26, 27, yeah. So the option kicks in this year, right? 25, 26, 27, yeah. So the option kicks in this year.

Next year? In 26? Okay. So what's his base salary for this year? 50? Gotta be like 55, 56. 52, yeah. 52.

Damn. Boy, getting to the money on, 56. 52, yeah. 52. God damn. Boy, get to the money on, ain't you? Base salary? Man, you see, I told you, you're about to sign three-year 221. Yeah, three. Three-year 221. Three-year 321.

That's 70. That's 70 what? 71 mil. 71, 750, however you want to slice it up. Yeah, he worth it. What? Listen, every penny. Look, he going to play for a long time.

He going to play for a minute. He going to play for a good minute. The way he play play below the rim right effective I mean and when he done you will never hear

from him again he be just like Tim Duncan he might be worse than Tim Duncan cause he gonna go back to Serbia and you will never hear from him again

he gonna be on his farm with his horses yep he ain't gonna hear nothing from him AR is coming off his best season yet, averaging 20 points,

four and a half rebounds, five and a half, 5.8 assists, shooting 46% from the floor. And he's gotten better and better from an undrafted rookie to his first year to his second year

to this year. He's been sensational. He's gotten better and better every single year. Yeah, man. He's been unbelievable for the Lakers as a career option, especially after they got Luka. Even before they got Luka, I thought he was trending in the right direction,

playing great basketball. His package as far as offensively has enhanced over the years. He's gotten better and better off the dribble, catch and shoot. I don't really think he have, he don't have much of a weakness to me, on the Ochoa side of probably defending on the perimeter, which is- Yeah, he ain't gonna be able to defend.

That's the way he killed it. And that, but I mean, we don't really look at the guy to slide them puppies like that. He can get to, he can get all the way to the rim. Can finish. I agree with you. I don't think he has a whole lot of weaknesses, just that he needs to work on his ability to defend.

And it's hard because you don't want to get beat on your first dribble, first or second, because that way help can't come quick enough. And if it does get there, they're so far out of position, ain't nobody being able to get back. And now you got him and Luka on the court. So you got two guys that really can't defend off the first dribble. Yeah. It's tough.

Yep. It showed in that T-Wall series. That was us. Yeah. Because Ant kept putting, they put Ant, they put him, Luka in the pick and roll. And then Ant won't ruin the pick and roll. Like, Austin Reed. He wasn't even just endo mcdaniels he was he was being aggressive offensively going at who if luca or ar was guarding him he was going at them as well like they didn't let them dudes off the hook it didn't matter where you was at you can play high and seek all you want to we

gonna find you hey that's what you do you get When you get a fish on the line, what you do? Hey, you hold him. Don't let him get off. Don't give him too much slack. If you give him too much slack, he's going to jump off there. But you don't want to pull him too hard because he'll break your line. Hey, just hold him. Just hold him. I'm going to get you to the boat, son.

You're going home today. You're going home. Either you're going to the pen or you're going on the wall. But you're coming home with me today, bro. Yeah, that's the only two options. The pen or the wall. City council members in San Antonio have filed paperwork to consider renaming their airport after Spurs president and recently retired head coach Greg Popovich. The proposed name, the San Antonio Greg Popovich International Airport.

That's all right. Yeah. I International Airport. That's all right. Yeah. I like that. That's all right. I like that. Especially with Pop and all he's done. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he means a lot to the organization.

San Antonio, they ain't got nothing else going on in there. Nah, he running things over there, man. The Alamo, that's all y'all got going on there. Oh, you been there before? I man. The Alamo, that's all y'all got going on there. Oh, you been there before? I have. It's nice, no? I asked about the Riverwalk. That was what I asked from her.

She be hyping it up. It's okay, Ocho. It's okay. They got the rodeo there. They got the rodeo or something. Yeah, they got, yeah. Okay, okay. So if you're into that kind of thing.

Like Houston? It ain't like Houston. Nah, San Antonio ain't nothing like Houston. Nah. Ocho? It's Texas. Ocho, please

don't mention Houston. I need you to help me out, bro. I'm in Houston right now. That's why I would just. I need you to help me out. Okay, I meant Houston right now. That's why I would just... I need you to help me out. Okay, I'm sorry. My bad. You're right. Please. My bad.

My bad. My bad. 49 of them, Brock Purdy has agreed to terms on a five-year, $265 million contract extension, including $181 million in total guarantees. The highest paid quarterbacks in the NFL based on a year-to-year basis. Dak Prescott at $60 million. Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Jordan Love, and

Trevor Lawrence at $55 million. Tua at $53.1 million. Brock Purdy, $53. Jerry Goff at $53. That's a good number. Right where they have him slotted is a good number for him. Yeah. I mean,

Ocho, you got to think about it. The man made $2.9 million over the first three years of his career. Now he'll get a check every week for $2.9 million. I know, yeah. Listen, he deserved it. Hey, well-deserved. Well-deserved. Yes.

I like Brett Purdy. I just didn't view him at the tier one type quarterback. No. He had a superior supporting cast around him. You got Trent Williams. You got Deebo. You got Brandon Ayuk. You got Christian McCarthy in the backfield.

How did he look once some of those pieces went away? It wasn't as pretty. It wasn't as pretty. It wasn't as pretty, huh? It's all about Ocho. When real estate, what is it about? It's about location, location, location. In the NFL, it's about position, position, position. He plays a premium.

No, he plays the premium position. Yes. And so, you're like, man, that house ain't worth no $40 million. Maybe if it wasn't in Bel Air, you're right. But it's in Bel Air. It's absolutely worth $40 million. And if you want it, that's what you're going to have to pay to get it. Yeah. Well, a starting quarterback in the NFL that's gone to a Super Bowl,

he's gone to two NFC championships. That's what you're going to have to pay to keep him. It's really that simple, Ochoa. You know, all that. Man, he ain't worth that. You work with somebody to pay for you. And he plays very well in that offense, in that Shanahan offense. Yes!

He plays very, very well. Look, actually, he's probably worth more because he saved Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch's job because they invested all that money in Trey Lance. They gave up all that draft capital

to get Trey Lance. They took this man as Mr. Irrelevant in the last pick in the seventh round. Now, if you don't take him and you got Trey Lance and you done moved on from Trey Lance, you gone. Yep.

You gone. Yeah. You gone. Yeah. Hey, Uncle Ocho. Are you, didn't he tear his ACL last year? His first game. Debo gone, right? Debo with the commanders. Okay, so he got Kittles.

Who else he throwing? Brandon Ayuk will be back. Juwan Jennings. Ricky Purcell. Ricky Purcell. Ricky Purcell. Am I you going to be back. Juwan Jennings. Ricky Purcell. Ricky Purcell. Ricky Purcell. Am I, you going to be back already after ACL? Yeah.

Yeah. ACL don't take that long. Medicine different now, Joe. Medicine different now. He did it real early, so he'll definitely be back. So he did it like in September. so October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May, June, July. Oh, yeah.

We got a few players coming back. We got Brandon Ayoub coming back off ACL, Stephon D coming back off ACL. And it seems like they're recovering faster because obviously technology is a lot more advanced, and the rehab and stuff that they do is a lot more advanced yes yes more so players are coming back faster than ever

especially once you get over that mental that mental block and understanding that you could trust your knee and then be comfortable cutting and moving oh man that's I mean that's that's that's the hardest part right there in just three seasons he's passed for 9518 yards, 64

touchdowns, four playoff wins, NFC Championship, and a Pro Bowl. That's the going rate. CJ Stroud is up next. CJ Stroud up next, don't you? Absolutely.

Listen, he finna get the bag. Yeah. Pretty soon, Listen, he finna get the bag. He had to walk it down. And, you know, pretty soon you're going to have Jane Daniels and Caleb Williams. They're going to be coming down the pike. Them boys, they finna set the mark. They finna have the quarterback out of control.

Oh, they're going to reset it. Yeah. Yeah. That's 60 million. I mean, with Josh Allen Allen got his whole contract guaranteed. $265, Ocho. Hey. Well, no, we're tacked on, so it's like $330.

Hey, was that more than what Deshaun got? Deshaun got $230 guaranteed. Yeah. Damn. He got the same agent? No. Deshaun had David Muguleta. I don't know who Brock Purdy's agent is.

David Muguleta, and I think all of them are athletes first, right? Who's Brock? Oh, yeah, I've never heard of them. Deshawn David Muguleta is his agent. I think all them are the athletes first. I thought Todd France, who

has Dak. Who? Who? Look at CEO Todd Fraser I think he's at Athletes First yeah so but yeah I agree with you Ocho

I think Brock Purdy he was deserving had earned this given what he had done his resume a Pro Bowl a Super Bowl NFC Championship game

two he had been gone to two NFC Championship games remember he tore his his elbow messed his elbow up like the first snap

yeah that was a playoff game wasn't it that was a playoff game yeah a championship game. The NFC championship game to the Eagles. Yeah, sure was.

And so, yeah, he earned this. He earned this big payday. I like to see guys, and I like to see team reward the players. You play well and we're going to reward you. Don't do all that haggling. I hate that they haggle all other positions except the quarterback position.

They never do the quarterback position like that. Ever. I hate that. Look, man, hey, I understand that he's important, but I've done my job. I've gone to four Pro Bowls. I've been two or three times first-team All-Pro. Right. And now you want to haggle me?

Hey, they're going to always do it. They always. I'm trying to think who. So CJ is going to be up next year. As a matter of fact, if I'm the Ravens, I go ahead and do something with Lamar. What you mean? Sign him. I extend him.

Yeah, hell yeah. You got to do it again. Probably sometime In the middle I bet they do something In the middle of the season Watch In the middle of the season

Or after the season Next year How many years You got left Shoot he just signed That big one He signed a five year Two something

Yeah So what he in This third year Into that Second year This is the second year to it. Yeah. But you got certain people that's getting ready to overlap him,

and they ain't got no business. Yeah, no. Well, you see, we just named three, six, eight quarterbacks, and we didn't mention Lamar. Hey. I think Lamar is about 50. They ain't got no business overlapping young Bull. Yeah. Yeah.

Damn. Excuse me, hold on. I got to use the bathroom real quick. Hold on. Go ahead. Well, you better get him before he messes around and win a Super Bowl because now you have to pay him $70 million. Lamar?

Yeah. He has two MVPs. The only guy on this list that has an MVP is Josh Allen. So Lamar has two. Dak doesn't have any. Joe doesn't have any. Joe has gone to the Super Bowl, but he's the only one, he and Brock Purdy,

that's on this list that's gone to the Super Bowl. None of the other guys have even played in a championship game. Yeah, that's going to be the separator for Lamar. If he can get him one, if he can win one, it's over. It's definitely over if he can do that. Well, they got to back that Brinkstroke up.

Oh, for sure. But they definitely have the team. You know, they re-signed they re-signed they didn't re-sign him. They extended him. King Henry gave him $25 million, two-year extension, $25 million. They extended him. I like Rashad Bateman.

I like the receiver core they got. They brought Andrews back. They brought Lively back. Likely, I feel likely. They brought him back. Look, the defense is going to be solid again. Offensive line is intact. Lamar is going to be Lamar.

So you know they're going to be consistently, they're going to be pretty good. Offensive line is intact. Lamar is going to be Lamar. So, you know, they're going to be consistently. They're going to be pretty good. Yep. They just got, you know, the hardest thing is to break it through that wall the first time. Mm-hmm. Once you break through then, all of a sudden, it's just like it happens. Yeah.

But that's the hardest thing. You see Josh Allen hadn't broken through yet because seemingly when they had to go against my homeboy only a handful of people have been able to stare him down in the playoff game. Yeah.

And that's been Joe Burrow did it and Tom Brady did it. Brady beat him in the Super Bowl once and Jalen Hurts just got him. It's tough.

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Boom, boom. I worked with Boomer at CBS for a decade. And look, I have a personal relationship with him. He's always been good to me. He's really, I mean, he's really a great, generous guy,

but he will now, he get on the radio, get on TV. Now he won't tell you how he really feel. Oh yeah. Yeah. He ain't gonna bite his tongue. He's like that for,

he's been like that for a very long time. He has. He has. He has. A long time. These old school cats, man, they don't like these young dudes, these prima donnas coming in here getting all this money. And listen, I got it a few times. Man, don't do that.

Oh, yeah. I was sitting next to him when he gave it to you a couple times. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And, hey, Joe, I love it, yeah. I was sitting next to him when he gave it to you a couple times. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, Joe, I love it, too. Yeah. I love him. I love him.

The thing is, Joe, and you can look. I mean, you made great money compared to the guys before you. Now, the guys that came after you, they're making money. Now, in 10 years from now, guys that were making $40, $50 million a year, like, man, they got this joker here making $80 million. Can you believe, Joe? He making $80 million? Amen.

That's crazy. It is what it is. It wasn't part of time, Ocho. You could buy Cadillac for $3,000. You get a nice three-bedroom, two-bath brick home for $35,000. $35,000, yeah. Timing is everything,000. You get a nice three-bedroom, two-bath brick home for $35,000. Common is everything, man. Bro, you can't

even furnish your house now with $35,000. By the time you put... I mean, hey, I'm looking at them trying to get me some patio furniture, and I look at the price of patio furniture, I say, no, don't worry about it. What? Yeah. Man, $4, don't worry about it. What? Yeah.

Yeah. Man. Four and five thousand dollars for a piece. Yeah. Oh, no. One piece? Like for like a section. They seat three people.

A section. Okay. Patio furniture. I'm like, you know what? Don't know. My mom don't come here and swim in the pool anyway. I said, don't even worry about it. I told you, don't even worry about it.

Ain't nobody, ain't nobody. I ain't been in the pool. I ain't been in the pool since I've been here. Right. And I've been here a year. Shelly had her feet in it. Her and her girlfriend had her feet in it. That's it.

Yeah. You know how to swim? Or are you scared? I do. I do. Okay. Okay. Joe, you know how to swim?

Man, like a fish. Oh, yeah. Oh, I forgot. You live on a property, so I know you got a pool. Oh, man. You're getting it. This is what we are. The country boys don't know how to swim, Ocho.

Oh, yeah. Ocho, I know you know how to swim, huh? What? Come on, man. Every summertime, as a little shorty, as a little jit, I used to bring in Charles Hadley to pool with all my homies. Yeah. Yeah.

Absolutely know how to swim. Hey, look. I grew up in a boys' club, Thrasher Boys and Girls Club in Little Rock, man. They throw Yeah. Absolutely know how to swim. Hey, look, I grew up in a boys club, Thrasher Boys and Girls Club in Little Rock, man. They throw you in, they throw you in the deep end, boy, you gotta learn how to swim.

You gotta learn. You got to. Yep. You go up in the country, it's hard not to swim because you're around water all the time. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. And then, you know, I got all these cousins and everything, so, hey, I was the youngest. Hey, if he could, oh yeah and then you know I got all these cousins and everything so hey I was the youngest hey if he could

hey I saw them do it they jump in I jump in right behind them hey knowing if they let something happen to me ain't nobody going home

I know everybody running away from home hey hey Ocho in the country you know I see people jumping in lakes and everything. I know

Florida water out there, Ocho. Y'all don't jump in no lakes or nothing, do you? Yeah, yeah, you know. Gator take your ass up under. Hey, lakes, canals, obviously the ocean, but anybody in water, people getting there. Hey, Joe, you ain't just see the man

with the alligator? Canoe? He was canoeing with his wife. Oh, he was running from the cops. What? He jumped in the water with the alligator so the cops couldn't come and get him. And he sat there arguing with the cops and the gator right there by him

and the gator came close to him. He fighting with the gator and refusing to get out of the water. You ain't see that? Nah, the gator ate him up? Nah, man, the gator wasn't big enough out of the water you ain't see that the gator ate him up nah man the gator wasn't big enough to really hand him like he wanted to but the gator tried to you know take a little bite of him but he was too small oh no he was too small to do something with him i don't i listen i don't know how long it took the cops to get him out that water

but he was he was in deep where they couldn't get to him. Boy, that gator was any bigger. No, I seen, I seen, I seen the story where, uh, a man and a woman, uh,

were canoeing. Uh, the gator took his wife. What? Yeah. The gator took his wife, ate his wife. And I started thinking,

man, did, did that man take his wife out there on a canoe trip to get rid of her? I'm trying to understand how I get the wife and not, well, okay, they only attack one person at a time. That was Florida. That definitely wasn't Florida. It wasn't Florida. That canoe, yeah, it was.

It wasn't Florida? It wasn't Florida. Yeah, they were talking about you need to watch, you need to be aware in Florida. He wasn't in Florida. That canoeing, yeah, that was. He was in Florida? He was in Florida. Yeah, they was talking about you need to watch, you need to be aware in Florida. Oh, yeah.

And keep small pets because a lot of times people get their pets smashed because they're walking them close to the canal, won't you? Yeah. And you got to realize

the gator's an ambush predator. Yeah. So he's going to lighten his speed. Yeah. Hey, short area quickness is unbelievable

and you won't want to see that man, hey, that gator got that man pup dog, that man jumped in there speed. They short air and quickness is unbelievable. You see that man? That gator got that man pup dog. That man jumped in there and opened the gator mouth. Or the ass him. Hey, you jumping in there and saying your dog like that? Oh, absolutely. You jumping in there to grab the gator, open it.

Yep. And guess what? And guess what? In every gator I see from that point on, he gonna be dead. I'm gonna be a vigilante. Every gator I see, he don't stand a chance.

He gonna be belly up. You're gonna be traumatized. You're gonna be traumatized. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, anything. Oh, yeah. It don't matter. Like now, I don't really like. Oh, anything. Oh, yeah. It don't matter.

Like now, I don't really like, but like when I like, when I walk my dog, when I had a dog, I always had that thing on me. So I'm walking at night just in case. So bear, bobcat, anything. Oh, you won't get it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That thing.

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What did you think about that, Ocho? Why do you keep messing with the game, Mom? The whole thing is to win your division. You can't see the thing is you take one isolated incident, Ocho. You took Minnesota. Okay, Minnesota was 14-3.

Yeah. Now they're a lower seed than say somebody won 10 but you didn't win your division right how many times have a 14 win team hasn't won the division when it just so happens

you're in the division with a team that was 15-2 right damn hey the chance of that happening again ain't gonna happen like that again ain't gonna happen like that for a while. I just,

just honestly, me, leave the game alone. Leave the game alone. Leave it how it is. You know, I think we're, well,

the people in position, they're tinkering too much. Yeah, they, they, they doing too much. I feel bad for people that play on the defensive side of the ball. And I'm an offensive player.

Yeah. I'm handicapped so much, they can't even play what we have come to love and know as a game of football. And it's true art. You just can't. You can't. You can't.

Leave the game alone, please. Joe, you know, they removed it. I think in the NBA, they removed division winners, right? Did they remove division winners?

Yeah. As far as getting higher seed. Yeah. I don't think there's an NBA. Nah. Cause it used to be like that. Yeah. If you want your division.

Yeah. You get an automatic. Yeah. Yeah. like that. Yeah, if you want your division. Yeah. You get an automatic, yeah. Yeah, it did. No, I don't want to do that. Don't do that. Ocho, the Steelers are working on a trade for Chris Olave. They have the assets to give them a bunch of picks. Are the Saints tanking to get Arch Manning?

What are they doing, Ocho? What are the Saints tanking to get Arch Manning? What are they doing, though, Joe? What are the Saints doing? What's really going on? Hold on. Arch Manning ain't... Wait, he's a sophomore, right? No, junior. He'll be a junior. Yeah, he'll be a junior. Oh, so he coming out this year. He can come out. He could.

I'm not saying that he will. He could. Because we know the Mannings, they normally stay all four years. Yeah. Both of his uncles did. His dad got injured and had to retire. Right. Had to give up football.

Can you imagine Archie Manning? Huh? And they're from around there? And they're from New Orleans? They're from New Orleans, yeah. New Orleans, yeah. Archie got drafted by the Saints number two overall. Imagine if Archie go to the Saints number two overall. Imagine if that, if Vavarji go to the Saints,

boy. And I like, and I also like that, I like Chris Olave to the Steelers. That gives Aaron Rodgers a nice target. Mm-hmm. That gives Aaron Rodgers

a nice target. Now, that'd be a good one-two combo. Actually, that's a one-one combo. Yeah. Because Chris Olave ain't no goddamn number two.

And you know DK, you know what DK Metcalf can do. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be a nice little setup. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers is going to like that. Ocho said Aaron Rodgers

is going to be the quarterback. Yeah, I could. Come on, man. The writing is on the wall. You already know. You know how they do. Ocho, speaking of New Orleans, Joe, you're going to love this. Ten New Orleans inmates escaped jail by breaking a hole behind the toilet. After breaching the wall at the New Orleans Justice Center in New Orleans, the inmates left through a door used to bring supplies around 1 a.m.,

scaled a wall, and ran across the interstate. The words, too easy, can be seen written on the wall above the hole with an arrow pointing towards it, according to a photo shared by the sheriff's office. The escape wasn't discovered until hours later, about 8.30 a.m., when staff noticed them missing during a routine head count. Man, that was a cool movie. What movie that was on for?

Yeah, shoot. It sounded like Law Abiding Citizen a little bit. It movie that was all for? Yeah, I'm sure. It sounded like Law Abiding Citizen a little bit. It was just one person and not 10. Yeah. Yeah, it was another one. An older one. They put it too easy. Hey, this is too easy.

Where they going to go with no money? They had a plan, Ocho. Huh? Hey. Go hook. Hey. The thing is, look. They're going to go to where they're familiar.

They're going to go to family and friends instead of getting the hell away from Dodge. Right. They got to go somewhere they know. You don't have no choice. You can't go nowhere unless you got that kind of money. You can't go nowhere. Listen, I'm breaking out, especially depending on how long long How long my time And my sentence was If you're serving life Okay I get it But if you If you ain't got that long to go

What's the point? Yeah Unless you Unless you in there for a elbow I mean that's Man please Yeah if you in there for a long time You don't

Hey If you in there for a quarter or more Yeah Okay I don't know hey, anything, if you, if you in there for a quarter or more. Yeah. Okay. I don't know, maybe even a dime. I'm, I'm,

I'm, no. A nick, I think you can sweat that one out. You can sweat a nick out. Shut up. That ain't no joke, boy.

Man, please. that ain't no joke. Hey, you know, back in the day, back in the day, I had a homeboy,

he go, hey, my homeboy fainted. The judge told him, say, when you wake up, tell him you still got that time. Yeah, yeah, hey. I know Kassadin did dimes and cash. I think it was nothing. But boy, police got that fair time.

Hey, he's a judge. I can't do all that time. The judge said, do what you can. Yeah. My homeboy. Do what you said, do what you can. Yeah. My homeboy... Do what you can. Do what you can. I don't need you to do all of it, but just do what you can.

My homeboy just came home, man. He just came over doing 17 fair time. They give you 54 days off of good behavior, fair. If you be good the whole year, they give you 54 days off. He came home, I said,

what it was like, you know, doing that kind of time. Didn't talk, didn't tell, didn't do nothing. He did his time, hard time, and you say, man, them people, they think they gave me all that time, and I was going to be sad, but they gave me too much time to think.

They gave me too much time to think. They gave me too much time to think. And I just, listen, to hear that after all that time and to still have that positive mindset and his mindset is completely different. He's not the same person he was when he was out. I'm like, well, damn, who is you now?

They're all completely different. Damn. Well, they gave me too much time to think. I think better in my own bedroom. I don't think well around a whole bunch of people.

Joe, I don't know. Man, what? You got to live like that with a man sleeping on top of a box. Oh, no, sir. You know, when you're in the feds, now, I ain't never been there. I'm just telling you what I heard. It's like, it's luxurious.

No, it all depends on what type of fed you got. Now, if you got the white collar fed type, yeah, okay. You got the medium security. Right. Work release program. Yay. Where you can... They send you after that federal prison

out in New Orleans. Or they send you with that fed prison in Florence, Colorado. What? What 23-hour lockdown? 23-hour what? 23-hour what? 23-hour lockdown.

Man, listen. I need my video game. I can't do it. You ain't getting that, bro. I can't. That's what they said. That's what they said. The worst of the worst.

They send a Unabomber. They send mofos like that. Right, right, right, right, right. People that blew up the World Trade Center. That's where they go. Damn. What's the name? El Chapo?

Shorty? I thought the Invisible was in New York. No, El Chapo in Florence, Colorado. Oh, they moved him? Damn. Yeah. Damn. Yeah.

So, no. I'm good. I kind of like the outside. Me too. I like the outside too. You got teeth. I got teeth problems. Yeah, I'm good.

I'm good right here. All right. We're going to get you out of here on this one, guys. It's time for our final segment of the evening. Now it's time for Q&A. Yeah. Look, Chad. yeah look chad we know ocho what chad wanted to talk about ab was arrested for firing shots at people correct at it in the ceiling of his home i guess what oh he was outside firing shots in the air. Who? A.B. When did this happen? But we ain't discussing that.

While I was on the plane? Just now. Oh, shit. J. Del from Akron. Congrats on your son's graduation. Thank you. He's talking to you, Ocho. Yeah.

He smashed you in Spello Cinco. He would. Nah, you won't beat me in Spello Cinco. Thank you. He said your son would beat you in Spello Osinko. I ain't nobody beat you. I went to Harvard, boy. I went to Harvard. My son graduated

from Arizona State. That lets you know who the smartest person is. I see he get the smarts from his mom. That's what they say. They say smarts, kid smarts come from the mother's side. Hey, this mama did a hell of a job, man.

All those... Yeah, I can't say I disagree with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All those I have kids... Hey, let me tell you something, Uncle Joe. Joe, I didn't do things the traditional way, right? You know? Right.

You do it the traditional way. But one thing about God, man, he don't make no mistakes. And boy, those I have kids from, they did one hell of a effing job with the kids, boy. Yeah, man, he don't make no mistakes. And boy, those I have kids from, they did one hell of a effing job with the kids, boy. Yeah, man. Yeah.

Golly, man. Good job. I mean, I ain't do bad. I be two of my three. Think about that. I done went to graduation today, Joe, right? My son graduated. I done flew to Houston.

I had to make sure I got to Houston in time so I could do nightcap. And my daughter graduated from Prairie View A&M in the morning. My son graduated on Monday, bro. He graduated from high school. Really? Yeah. You only got one kid, Joe?

Nah, I got three. My son 18, my daughter is 11, and I got a three-year-old little boy. Joe, you got to keep up. You got to keep up. That's it? Hey, seven years apart, but that wasn't my doing, Uncle Joe.

Yeah, you got to get back in there, Joe. Get back in where? Well, you can't get on all numbers. That's bad luck. Yes, you can. I got two boys, one girl. I'm cool. Man, I'm... Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

Chop suey. You done? Yeah, I'm not having no more kids Ojo what's wrong with you? man you tripping man yeah this my new Ojo

man stop that that's why he he being a quitter a quitter on what? what about you you having no more kids don't be a quitter that's the first thing

we learn in the community I ain't doing no more practicing now I ain't even trying to play no game I'm just practicing hey hey Ojo them kids I ain't doing no more practicing now. I ain't even trying to play no game. I'm just practicing. Hey, Ocho.

Them kids expensive, time. Oh, no, no. Kids are expensive. What you choose to buy is. No, today's time, it's hard to raise. You're not raising no kids like you and I got raised, Ocho. Like Joe got raised. Right.

You're not doing that. My grandfather used to always tell us, he'd say, boy, the worst kind of poor you can be is child poor. Well, I don't know about y'all. I'm finna have twins. You go right ahead. You finna have twins? Yeah, I'm finna have twins. I'm done. I'm done.

That's going to put you at what? 10. Right at 10. And I'm done. I'm done. The only thing I want twins, they better be cars or bank accounts. They're the only twins I want. Hey, bro.

It's so funny. I'm trying not to laugh, right? You know I had my work done, right? Yeah. I was cutting my hair laugh, right? You know, I went, you know, I had my work done, right? Yeah. I was cutting my, I was cutting my hair. You know, the oil joke. You know, the oil they give you to put on the clippers.

Yeah. I done my ass, forgetting I had work done. I went and tried to bite it and twist it off. My whole tooth done popped off, right? So I'm trying, I'm trying to be careful and laughing. I'm hoping, I was hoping while I was doing the show I hope it fell out Did you put something on it? It's just sitting there

I'm hoping to find I don't bite nothing I don't bite nothing with these Yeah, listen I forgot It didn'ted on me until I'm sitting there biting the...

No. Trying to twist the top off. Bit a damn tooth and went for... Oh, shit. Hey. Oh, hey. I don't bite nothing

with the front of my teeth. I bite everything with the side. Oh, with the side? Okay, okay, okay. Hey. So if I look straight on, you... Hey.

You'll never know. Hey. On the side, I look like a jacket ladder I gotta find a dentist In Houston But tomorrow's Sunday Tomorrow's Saturday bro Tomorrow's Saturday

Okay so the dentist Open tomorrow then You have to pay extra to get him to come in But yeah Tomorrow or Saturday? He don't know where he at. Okay, so the dinner's open tomorrow then. You have to pay extra to get him to come in, but yeah, he open. Yeah, yeah, I gotta get it bonded, man. Wow. Yeah, that probably cost you

about $2,000, $3,000. Come on, man. He got it. He got it. He got what? You know what? Why just need to get it bonded back? That's about $80, man.

Come on. Okay. You must be going to CVS or Walg back? That's about $80, man. Come on. Okay. You must be on CBS or Walgreens talking about getting it off. Man, please. Okay. Oh, so you'll pay that man $2,000 or $3,000 to put your tooth back in, but you won't pay me my money.

And it's not going to cost that much. Y'all just creating a number. No, I'm telling you, Ochoa, it's going to cost what it costs to put back in. I'm telling you. No, that's too much. First of all, that's an emergency. So you got him coming in because most dentist offices aren't open on Saturday. Right.

Now you got to call and hope somebody knows the dentist. I think dentist offices are open on Saturday. They just close a little earlier than normal. No, they're not open on Saturdays. Anybody in the chat, y'all know a dentist office I can go to, man, to make sure my tooth don't fall out, man.

Where you at, bro? You say you're in Houston? I mean, I'm literally in Houston, right downtown. I'm in a club right now. Joe, I swear to God, I'm in a club. I'm just in the back office. It's called It's cracking. It's cracking. It's like that. It's crowded. Oh, Joe, I just told you don't mention Houston.

I just told you that. I didn't say Houston. You did say Houston. No, I'm talking about Allen Houston. The basketball player. Oh, man. Jeffrey Bader said, Ocho, where the after party at at the Charlotte show? Played Tonka Spade for Ocho Cartier or some Shea BSOP. somebody calling y'all out man ain't calling me out

we can play for whatever not these Cartiers because you know I need them but we can put some money on it. Shit, make it light on yourself now. I don't know, Ocho. I got to see you play a couple times. I'll bring you on as a partner now.

He might be reneging on some more. Yeah, man. Spades is what I do now. I don't play no games. There's one thing about it. There's a lot of things in life I play with. And space ain't one of them. I don't know, Joe. I might

need to see you play. I might need to see you play a couple of hands. I got you. And see how well you can read the board. Because you need to be able to read your partner. Not only can I read my partner, I already know what's going to happen. Listen, can I read my partner, I already know

what's going to happen. Listen, when I go to Vegas, I know how to read cards. They don't even let me in the MGM no more. I can't even go to no casinos

because I know how to read cards. I learned to beat the machine. I learned to beat... Well, first of all, it's not called reading cards,

it's called counting. Counting cards. So that way I know you... Count them and read them and say it's all the same thing. Count them and read them. I can't even go to Vegas no more. I'm banned. David D. Cruz said,

if your barber messes up your cut, do you say something or do you just never go back? I ain't gonna lie. It's been time, boy. Barber done messed me up I ain't going back

if I'm on the road let's say when I was playing and we be on the road and I needed to cut and I asked somebody hey man send me somebody who can cut and he cut me up and it was horrible I may not say nothing to him but I'm going to tell his man

hey Joe as a matter of fact I know the dude that cut your hair he from Little Rock I may not say nothing to him, but I'm going to tell his man. I'm like, man, you're going to sit this dude up here, man. Hey, Joe, as a matter of fact, I know the dude that cut your hair. He's from Little Rock. He's from Little Rock. He off the hook. Yeah, Amari. Little short dude? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. I call him P-Boy Bryson. Who are you talking about? We might be talking about two different people. They're the little dude. He's off the hook. He's a homeboy. He said, man, Joe's my homeboy. I'll be cutting Joe up.

What was his name? Dre or Amari? I don't even know his name. I call him P-Bo. Both of them are from Little Rock and they both out here. Amari cut my hair now. He's been cutting my hair for about two years now. Dope, dope. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise

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Yep. So, hey, man, you know such and such. I said, no, because when people ask me, hey, Sharp, you remember such and such? I say, from Savannah State.

I said, do you have a nickname? Right. Yeah, they call themselves. Yeah, I know exactly who you're talking about. Or a former teammate. You done called somebody a nickname for 25, 30 years.

Yeah. Man, don't ask me their real name. Right, because we don't know. I don't know it. No, 30 years. Man, don't ask me their real name because we don't know. I don't know it. No, I'll explain. Look, I've only had a handful of barbers, especially like Joe, who's my barber in Atlanta. He's been cutting my hair since 94.

So he's been cutting my hair 30 years. Nobody else has ever cut my hair in Atlanta except him. Growing up, a guy named Reverend Green and a dude named Bobby Lee Wilkins cut my hair. Then when I come find him, Luther Maynard cut my hair. And then I went to college. You know, you go to college, you find out one of your teammates can cut. Them $2, two feet haircuts will come in handy. Yeah.

A dude named Coop and then I had a homeboy named Mud cut my hair. Yeah. I got a young kid out here named Amari. He's from Little Rock, but when I met him, I didn't know he was from Little Rock. I'd just seen his work on IG. I sent him a letter and I just hit him up.

And I went and got a cut. And then he started telling me he went to Parkview High School that's in Little Rock. The same high school my mom went to. Is the dude that cut you, is he short? Nah, this dude I'm talking about ain't short. But the dude named Dre who used to cut my hair, he a little shorter

than Amari. Yeah, okay. That's probably who it is, Dre. Maybe. Yeah. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy said, as my grandma used to say, Lord, if this ain't the best podcast, I say glory. Great show, fam. Doc,

thank you so much. Thank you for your support. Joe, you don't know Dr. Frank L. Bellamy, but she probably was one of our first five subscribers. Oh, really? She came to our very first road show that was in Vegas. She was there. The Atlanta show, she was there.

The New Orleans show, she was there. She's probably going to be at the Charlotte show also. I mean, she's been, I mean, our family, our supporters at Nightcap, they support. Yeah, they support. They come. Big time. So, Doc, and she found out my brother was going to be playing, I think it's at Myrtle Beach. And she always goes down there and say, man, look here.

I got one of our listeners on Nightcap. Her name is Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. She's going to come up. Say, what's up? And sure enough, he's, she said she came up. Pretty grim and said two picks, ice picks,

quick picks, Nixon six. I like it. Uh, big Mike said, go New York. Oh, Joe,

talk your talk. Yeah, listen, I'm a heat fan. I'm a heat fan. And I'm, I was only going for the Knicks to piss off my baby. Um, I'm, I'm a Heat fan. I'm a Heat fan, and I was only going for the Knicks to piss off my baby.

I'm sure she's watching. She's emotionally unstable right now. She was crying because obviously Boston went home. I've never seen someone love a team that much. You know, when you invested that much time and that much emotion into a team. Crying? Yeah.

What are you doing? Yeah, if I lose, I might cry. I ain't crying somebody else lose. I hope you're okay, mama. Go Knicks. Pat Duff said, I hope fans are understanding better how this second apron

works. Celtics and the Warriors are a perfect example of how it affects championship windows. They did it so because they want teams to be like to be able to do what the Warriors did by getting KD and have KD and have Steph and have Klay and have Draymond

they don't want that they don't want the big three Miami Heat again they don't want that you can do it but you're going to be paying $200 million in luxury tax and then you jump in that second apron and become a repeater. Okay.

Let us laugh. Ocho Iso, in your opinion, which NBA team had the worst finals loss? The worst finals loss? Yeah. Yeah. loss the worst finals loss yeah probably be somebody who got swept

right that was probably supposed to win the series and got swept yeah worst finals loss uh the Lakers have to be up there when they got beat by Detroit It might be It might be It might be the Heat when they got beat by the Mavericks It might be Houston when they beat Orlando With Penny and Shaq

Yeah, but Elijah Warren was on a different level Shaq was on a different level too Shaq was young I know he was young, but he was still dominating the league. They couldn't do nothing with him. It's just not only was Elijah Warren great, but the guys around him played. Jaden Smith hit those seven threes in that one game. But think about it.

They had Shaq and Kobe, and they got gentlemen sweet by Detroit. It was a great team during that time. Rasheed Wallace, Rip Hamilton. Rasheed, Big Ben Wallace, Chauncey, Rip Hamilton, and Tayshaun. Yeah, Tayshaun Prince. Okay. I think McDyess came off the bench. Didn't they have McDyess coming off the bench?

He might have came off the bench, yeah. But I don't think that's worse than the Houston. Boy look here before my big mcnyce messed that knee up boy when he was in denver i was in denver when he was there you were nice yeah and man jump out the gym was saying yes oh yes mcnyce was like that jump out the gym like shannon brown jump out the gym yes boy he was six he was six eight and jump like that yeah i played with uh i played with mcdice and phoenix uh obviously it was later in his career but yeah man he played in alabama so i'm an sec guy so i always kept up with them dudes man all them guys from alabama can jump robert or people don't realize robert or used to play above the

rim before he messed his back up and just started shooting threes. But when he first got to the league... Right. What Jason Richardson... Michigan State. Well, he can jump, too. He was another... His son can jump, too. His son, he got a son. Yeah, he jumped like what?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Antonio McDyess was real nice. I was in Denver when he got there. But McNice, Antonio McNice was real nice. I was in Denver when he got there. All them guys, Matumbo, Jalen Rose, Rodney Rogers, McNice, Mello, all of them. Deshaun Allen, who do you think is the strictest coach in the NBA back in the day? Chuck Daly, Pat Riley, or Casey Jones?

I mean... Well, is there somebody more strict than Pat? Yeah, I'll try this. I don't know. I don't either. Pat run a tight ship over there, man. I think he's been doing that since the days he coached with the, what, the Knicks and the Lakers?

Yeah. Yeah. Magic said he was like that when Magic got him. So, and then, you know, he went to the Knicks. And, boy, they think about it. They had Mason. They had Oak. They had Xavier McDaniel.

Charles Smith. He coached all of them. Boy, they had a team full of powerful boys. That's it. Hey, that's what they say. Come to the paint if you want to. You come the first time, you ain't coming back, I bet you. No, son.

They put you on that flow for sure. Smacks of the Halftime said hey uh joe ocho start bitch cut luca ant-man sga all right yo man y'all do this one more time i'm going with nsga

oh so you cut luca i said i said what i said ocho i don't know what else you want from me. I said what I said. But I want to know who you starting. On what? You said I got to start one, bench one. Start, cut, bench.

I'm going SGA. You going to start SGA? I didn't say that. Poe, Luca. Hey, Joe, they got me last night. They gave me T.O., Randy Moss, and damn Calvin Johnson. Come on, man. My point exactly.

You think right now? Yeah, man. You think they got me? You can't cut leading that one, them all. You got to cut somebody. Man, come on. Same thing I said Who you going with Ocho?

Shoot Listen I love the personality Of Ant-Man And you can't go wrong It's a toss up between Ant and SGA So I'm starting

I'm starting Ant I'm benching SGA And I'm cutting Luka Damn What you doing? You gotta be careful On this one and SGA. So I'm starting and I'm benching SGA and I'm cutting Luka. What you doing? You got to be careful on this one. I got the next one. I got the next question. We got another start bench cut.

What's the next one? Aaron O'Rourke's ass. Start bench cut. Chase, Ocho, AJ Green. Oh, that's easy. I got that. Show live. AJ, I'm sorry, start bench cut. Chase, Ocho, AJ Green. Oh, that's easy. I got that. Show me up, AJ. I'm sorry, bro.

Wow. AJ, I'm sorry. No, no, no. I'm starting, Chase. I'm benching AJ. I'm cutting me. Nah. That's easy.

I'm going to start, Chase. Ocho, I'm sorry, Ocho. If Chase need a bro, need a breather, I'll send you in. Other than that, AJ, I'm sorry, AJ. I got to go with my dog, Ocho. He got to get him in the game. Nah, fuck that. You know, it's funny.

Whenever it comes to any kind of rankings, boy, I always put everybody before me. I don't be caring. Nah, I got to really think they go before me before I put them before me. I ain't just putting somebody up there just to be humble. That ain't happening. Right. And Sanjay 17 said, Ocho, Uncle Ocho, you're an NFL general manager. Who's your first pick, dead or alive?

First pick? Yeah. Start a franchise with, obviously, right? Yep. I'm taking Brady. You can't go wrong with the quarterback position. If you give me an offensive player, I'm taking Tom Brady. If you give me a defensive player, I'm taking LT.

I was going to say LT. Defensive, I was going to say LT. Yeah. If you start with any other position on offense, you crazy. I'm taking the quarterback. I'm taking Tom. Then defensive player, I'm taking LT. Give me Joe Montana.

Okay. And give me LT on I'm gonna give me give me uh Joe Montana okay and give me LT on the other side who you started who you started your franchise with Joe shit I don't know Joe

uh you know what he said Joe said he started a franchise with Ocho uh uh starting a franchise with Ocho? I'm probably going to go with Mahomes. Okay. On defense,

I don't know. I say Ray. I say Ray Lewis. Go with it. That's a good one. Even after you saw what I did to Ray, you're going to pick Ray? Well, I seen Ray smack you coming across that middle.

That's one play. What about the other 100 plays I smacked him? I think you ran into him in the end zone and knocked yourself out. That's what I said. That's one time. Oh, did he's one time he hit him coming across the middle and knocked his helmet off

you saw I got up and beat his ass right what happened what happened what happened Ed Reed had to hold me back I was about to sleep Ray ass boy I got hit I jumped for the ball And Reed had to hold me back. Oh. Hey, I was about to sleep, Ray-ass boy.

Hey, I got hit. Hey, I jumped for the ball. Man, he hit me up underneath my chin. My helmet went flying. Did he? Hey, I swore for God, Joe, before I hit the ground, man, I was trying to get up before I got down. I thought your head was in that helmet. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Ray was finna get his hand. And let me tell you about a story, Joe. Go ahead. They didn't stop. So I waited for Ray outside the locker room, and I think he went out to bag dough because we were going to have to square up. Like, how can you hit me like that?

So I went to the team bus and was banging on the dough, but he ain't never come outside. Yeah, yeah. You know they call me hella hands, right? and was banging on the, you know, banging on the door, but he ain't never come outside. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you know, they call me hell of hands, right?

Yeah. Yeah. They call me hell of hands. I didn't know that. Yeah. That's why I ran for the fight. Sometimes, like if I fight somebody,

like it feel like you fighting two people. Like that's, that's what they call me. Hell of hands. Yeah. They call you hell of legs. Cause you go run. Yeah. I mean, if

you call a route, yeah, I'm going to run. That's about the only time. Kibrenorwood Jr. asks, my question is, what are your top four old school cars? Ooh. A

70 Chevelle 456, Kyle Induction, LS6. 1969 Camaro. I would say 1970 or 71 Cuda. And then just for good measure, I'll take the 250 GTO. That ain't really no old school. And I ain't really try to spend, you know, $25, $30, $40 million for a car.

So I'll go another old school. I'll go, i'll take a uh i'll take a 442 cut or i'll take a uh cutlass yeah okay or i'll take i'll take a gto god take over or a ram air so first one i i want that i want that uh uh GTO, God Takeover, or Ram Air. So, first one, I want that Chevelle. Yeah. Chevelle, nice. That's the first

Chevelle. Kyle induction, 456. I got a 71 Chevelle, black and gray, and I got a 72 Impala. Big body. Wait, Chevy? Huh?

Convertible? 72? Yeah. You want to sell it? Do I want to sell it? You want one? You looking for one? I've been looking for a donk for the longest.

You had all them donks and you got rid of them. What? All Mazos bought them off me they now they and Miami it ain't even about

like for me I did like six Chevys when I was so me and my homeboys had something when I moved

you know we all move as one I ain't want nobody but it's all about racing and going fast

now I just I just I'm about looking good I don't want to go fast everybody turn all the donks in Miami in the race cars yeah I just, I just, I'm about looking good. I don't want to go fast.

Everybody turn all the donks in Miami in the race cars. Yeah. You got a box? You got a box Chevy? Nah, I ain't like the box Chevy. I hate the box Chevy. I've always hated it. Nah, I ain't no box Chevy guy either.

I'm going to get me an old school car one day. I had an LTD. Y'all know what an LTD is? The L-Dog. I had one in my high school. Well. Hey, look. I had one in my high school.

Boy, we had to stop. Me and the homies had to stop every five, ten minutes just to put some oil in it. I was about to say that. You had to stop every time. That's the one thing about them old cars. Boy, that's some work. You got to do some work in it. I'm about to say that. You had to stop every oil. That's the one thing about them old cars, boy. It's some work. You got to do some work with them old cars, boy. Because you got to realize them cars 50 years old.

They ain't meant to be driven on the rig. So, hey, boy, hey, pull that car side of the road. Don't be licking that oil up on my grass. Killing my grass. Hey, boy, look look that ain't even me staying in the driveway you just absolutely

my grandma did not that concludes this episode of Nightcap as you watch the New York Knicks advance to the Eastern Conference Finals

with a 119-81 victory over the Boston Celtics they placed four guys with 20 plus points or more. Josh Hart had a triple-double, and Miles McBride came off the bench and chipped in with 10.

Six guys with double figures. Josh Hart triple-double. Four other guys with at least 20 points as they steamrolled the Boston Celtics into the Eastern Conference, 119-81. They will face the Indiana Pacers starting on Tuesday. Thank you guys for watching another episode of Nightcap. Y'all know who I am.

I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. My partner and co-host is from Liberty City. He's a Bengal Ring of Fame honoree, a pro bowler, and an all-pro. He's Chad Ochocinco Johnson. And also our co-host to talk all things basketball, championship, playoff basketball from the University of Arkansas, Little Rock, Arkansas native. That's Iso Joe. That's Joe Johnson.

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