Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 2: Lakers have NO SHOT without a HEALTHY LeBron + Iso Joe PREDICTS Ja Morant & Ant Man TEAM UP in Minnesota + Jaylen Browns HAIRLINE STRIKES Again

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to New York Jets almost traded Breece Hall to the Kansas City Chiefs, the Los Angeles Rams sign a new kicker from the UFL..., and LeBron James won’t travel on the road trip looking to return mid November and much more! 0:00 - Jets almost sealed Breece Hall3:14 - Rams sign 243lb kicker, Harrison Mevis6:27 - LeBron James won’t travel on road trip14:12 - What’s going on with Ja Morant?27:48  Jaylen Brown's hair strikes again40:45 - Klay Thompson benched by Mavs45:45 - Draymond responds to KD’s recent comments53:55 - Play or Fade with PrizePicks57:15 - Q & Ayyyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 From NBA champion Stefan Curry comes Shot Ready, a powerful never-before-seen look at the mindset that changed the game. I fell in love with the grind. You have to find joy in the work you do when no one else is around. Success is not an accident. I'm passing the ball to you. Let's go. Steph Curry redefined basketball.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Now he's rewriting what it means to succeed. Order your copy of the New York Times bestseller Shot Ready. Today at stephencurrie book.com. After the Jets dealt Salis Gardner and Quentin William, many assumed the franchise would also deal Breece Hall. The Chiefs reportedly offered the Jets a fourth round pick for Hall. But New York wanted at least a third rounder and turned it down. Ocho, can you imagine what the Chief's offense would have looked like with Breach Hall as it's running back?
Starting point is 00:00:51 Hey, listen, Breast Hall at running back, you got Cream Hum, you got Pacheco. I think if the Breece Hall trade would have went through, somebody in that back field would have been gone. somebody in that back field would have been going but the kind of speed that Breece Hall has and being the change the dynamic of that offense you know especially with play action hey that would have been nice I know Breece I know Bruce upset
Starting point is 00:01:12 I know he mad than the you know he was I know he mad he got hey I can see he I saw a little a little post joke yeah he said breaking news Breece Hall court at the airport and Saus Gardner Locker trying to get out trying to get out of New York
Starting point is 00:01:27 it was so funny it was so funny but understanding how bad they are right now it got to hurt it got it got to hurt I'm leaving that team hold on I'm leaving that team and I know what the chiefs represent
Starting point is 00:01:42 yeah their record is not the greatest but they still got Patrick Mahomes yeah they still got Travis Kelsey they still got those weapons and they have Andy Reid I'm surprised they didn't make it a fourth,
Starting point is 00:02:00 say, okay, we'll give you a fourth, but we'll make it contingent. We win the division or we make the playoffs or something like that. It converts into a third. I was surprised that it just said, no.
Starting point is 00:02:12 But hey, Brent Beach is hard to argue against him and Andy what they've been able to do. They seem to always push the right buttons. Remember they went and got Kareem Hunt, brought him back. Remember Ocho, they brought Nicole Hardman.
Starting point is 00:02:26 They brought him back. And what did he do? Catch the game when he did. touchdown in the Super Bowl. So it's hard to argue, Joe, that when the Chiefs do something like it's hard to find fault, but
Starting point is 00:02:38 hey, because Pacheco's going to be out, Ocho, he's going to probably be out like two, three weeks, maybe a month. Yeah. And you know what? The fact, I think, obviously, the Kansas City Chiefs, they value they value Bruce Hall in a sense, but don't value him enough for a third.
Starting point is 00:02:55 They value picks more. Yeah. especially from a team that knows how to draft. And where is he, is he on the final year of his contract? Because, you know, because the thing is,
Starting point is 00:03:10 you know, you don't want to have to bring a guy in. You got to pay you. And then he's a rental. And I gave him a third year. I gave him a third round pick for a rental. Right. I'm going,
Starting point is 00:03:18 I'm going to want to sign him. So it had been interesting to see, but I definitely think he could have, excuse me, I definitely think he could have helped the chiefs. Yeah. Absolutely. game of, you know, but Pacheco's going to be out.
Starting point is 00:03:30 We'll see what Kareem Hunt. Kareem Hunt is not really a, uh, uh, every down back. He's a short yardage. He's a short yardage back, third and one, fourth and one. He could catch the ball a little bit. I mean, he blocked a little bit, but. The big take podcast from Bloomberg News dives deep into one big global business story every weekday.
Starting point is 00:03:50 A shutdown means we don't get the data, but it also means for President Trump that there's no chance of bad news on the labor market. What does a bacon, egg, and cheese sandwich reveal about the economy? Our breakfast foods are consistent consumer staples, and so they sort of become outsize indicators of inflation. What's behind Elon Musk's trillion dollar payout? There's a sort of concerted effort to message that Musk is coming back. He's putting politics aside.
Starting point is 00:04:19 He's left the White House. And what can the PCE tell you that the CPI can't? CPI tries to measure out-of-pocket. costs that consumers are paying for things, whereas the PCE index that the Fed targets is a little bit broader of a measure. Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Greatness doesn't just show up. It's built. One shot, one choice, one moment at a time. From NBA champion Stefan Curry comes shot ready, a powerful never-before-seen look at the mindset
Starting point is 00:04:57 that changed the game. I fell in love with the grind. You have to find joy in the work you do when no one else is around. Success is not an accident. I'm passing the ball to you. Let's go. Steph Curry redefined basketball.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Now he's rewriting what it means to succeed. Shot ready isn't just a memoir. It's a playbook for anyone chasing their potential. Discover stories, strategies, and over 100 never-before-seen photos. Order shot ready. Now at stephen currybook.com. Stephen Curry's New York Times bestseller, Shot Ready, available now.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Man, Breeze Hall would have definitely helped. Football fans who miss Sebastian Janakowski have a new guy to watch. Rams announced they've signed kicker Harrison Mavis to their practice squad, dubbed the thicker kicker. He's 5-11, 243 pounds. The move comes after Joshua Cardi, Los Angeles regular starter, is 10 or 15, on field goals in 23 of 26 on extra points. Ocho, what you thinking? I mean, listen, that's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:06:05 When it comes down to kicking, Unk, games are won and lost on your leg. So therefore, you have to be damn near perfect if you are a kicker in NFL. And they brought in someone. He played with, not NFL. Did I say that right? He's coming from somewhere, Aunt. No, he wasn't he, um, is he careful about, uh, Mexico? Don't they sign a couple of players each year from Mexico
Starting point is 00:06:30 and put them on the practice squad, don't you? Yeah, I'm not sure. I mean, Ashley would be better suited to answer that one. But I know if I'm not mistaken, the person that they did sign is coming from somewhere where I think he missed one kick all season long. So this is something that they do need. Because, I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:46 the kicking position is very important, despite that you only have a lot. Atlanta just cut their second kicker this year. Remember they had Youngway, or Hope? Yeah. He straight one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:57 They brought this other guy in. He missed a PAT. Yeah, they got it. They gave him his walking play. They don't play because it's too important, huh? It's too, the kicking position is too important, especially when it comes to close games and games they decided on kicks that you make. So this is tough.
Starting point is 00:07:14 They need to bring me in the kick. Hey, that boy Aubrey got a foot on him, boy. Hey, we got to, hey, you saw Will, I mean, what's the name, Will, Cam, Will, of Will Cam, hit that 68-yarder? Cam Little. Oh, I've seen that. Cam Little, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Cam Little. And then Aubrey had a chance to tie it. Yeah. Yeah, he missed it, though, but he got a leg, but, hey, Joe. Oh, yeah. Hey, that thing might have been good.
Starting point is 00:07:38 That's what I thought. That's what I actually thought would break the record, Ocho. Who? I thought Aubrey, the Dallas kicker. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because he's indoors.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Mm-hmm. And at the end of the half, something like that, you let, but Cam Little kicked the 70-yard in preseason this year. For real? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Yeah, Mr. Steven. But do you know how, Joe, you know how hard it is to kick 70 and be accurate from that goddamn far out? I imagine. You can't get no height on the ball. So you got the kick.
Starting point is 00:08:08 You got to drive it. Be accurate. And then you got to worry about the deep of the line jumping up and blocking it because you can't put too much height on it because you won't be able to get it out that goddamn far. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:18 And you got to worry about you missing it. They're running it back because you ain't got them. You got two guys that really make the tackle. Yep. Those are the wing guys. And if those guys don't make the tackle, guess what? House call. House call.
Starting point is 00:08:31 He's undrafted out of Missouri in 2024, Ocho. He played in the UFL. That's what I meant to say. UFL, yeah, UFL. 511, 243. That boy, Bill, like a running back, eh? Yeah. Damn.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Joe, this. LeBron James will not be traveling for the team's upcoming five-game road trip starting Saturday as he covered. as he recovers from sciatica on his right side according to shams shams also reported that next step for lebron and his rehab is five on five live play which could which could come against the g league players or when he returned when los angers returned from the road trip on november 16th lakers personnel are still operating under
Starting point is 00:09:13 the belief lebron would debut will come around mid-november hey look joe what you think i'm i like what the lakers been doing uh i want to I want to give some, I want to give a shout out to my young boy, Nick Smith, Jr. Over there, you know, for the late balling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's from the crib. He's from Little Rock. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Hey, look, look. And they got AR over there who from Arkansas, too. So, who, they think he's down. Them boys getting down over there, man. Kobe of the Ozarks? Wait a minute. Austin reads from where? He's from Arkansas, New York, Arkansas.
Starting point is 00:09:47 That's probably, that's probably like, that's probably an hour and a half from Little Rock. Chill out, Ocho. Listen, like, Ocho, Ocho, we ain't got but a few players. in the league so we all got to stick together you hear me right right right so i root for him i root for all of them but man i've been hearing this about that uh they don't need lebrun this man if y'all play if the lakers plan on going far you're going to need the king man you're going to need him it's good that these guys are getting out here and they're playing great but when lebrun gets back on the floor they're going to need to keep that same confidence and effort that they
Starting point is 00:10:18 have but if they plan on going far man they they they're going to need lebron to come in and do something. And plus, go ahead, Ocho. No, I was going to say the funny thing is, as well as they're playing now offensively, with LeBron coming back, he still fits that dynamic, right? So the floor, the offense still continues. Yeah, I think the, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, I'm going, I'm going to let you free to show up because I was going to think it's different direction. You want them guys to continue to have a confidence that they plan with right now. Right. You know what I mean? Like, without LeBron on, with LeBron on the floor, yeah, maybe there's a different, maybe, you know, it's a lot more pressure.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Right. With him not being on the floor, you need the, I love the confidence that these guys are playing with. They just have to keep it up when he does come back, you know, they can't defer to him too much, you know what I mean? Right. Yeah. I agree.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I think the thing, you know, for me, Joe, is that this helps with the depth because the problem that the Lakers always had was depth is that what happens when LeBron and Lucas not on the floor or what happens when those guys are off the floor. Now we can see that now LeBron or Luca or Austin Reed will always be on the floor. So they'll always have somebody that can initiate the offense. Whereas before, you're like, damn, you had to play LeBron, Harry, you're damn to 39, 40 years old, and you got to play in 40 minutes. Guys, 40, that old ain't supposed to be playing those kind of minutes.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Right. Luca, wearing down. And so now you got Ruy that's playing really well. You got the guy they got from Memphis that's playing really well the other night. They went to a Portland. What's his name? They got some boys. La Ravia.
Starting point is 00:12:03 And he's been bawling. Yes. It's been going under the radar because AR been playing so great when Luca hadn't been playing. But he's been amazing for them. Yep. And you get, look, you mentioned,
Starting point is 00:12:17 you mentioned, Bryce, Bryce came in and gave him, What did he give him another night? He gave him six assists. Yeah, Brannie. Brody. Brody, yeah, Brody.
Starting point is 00:12:30 So what that does is that it's going to give them confidence that they can like, man, we can do this. We can do this. There you go. Now, look, you know the expectation there. I think sometimes, like when LeBron is not there and like Luca wasn't there, it's a situation where like, man, ain't nobody expecting anything of us. Yeah. But they know when LeBron is there and they know where the expectations are.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And it's really that simple. Yeah, it's championship of bus. And that's it. For me, when you look at DeAndre Aden, he's probably going to benefit the most out of LeBron not playing right now because he's playing at a great level right now. They're giving him a lot of lives, a lot of little chippies right there at the rim. And he's been playing great. So I think it's only going to help him on the Brun come back. If you notice Lucas is at his best when he got a lot of bread. Yes. What do you have lively?
Starting point is 00:13:23 when they had PJ Washington, when he had a, what's the other guy name? Gaffert. Gaffert. Yeah. You see, they went to the NBA finals once they got PJ Washington and they got Gaffer. He needs a law threat.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Long as he got a law of threat, because he's going to get to the rim, and now when you, are you least expect that he? Man, listen. Yeah. But D'Andre Aton, there's no reason D'Andre Aton shouldn't average 14, 14, 10, and 5. You're talking about Wittonlebrun?
Starting point is 00:13:53 without LeBron. With both of those guys because he's a lob threat. Yeah. So you got to pay attention to those guys. Look at Zubox. Look at what Zubox average last year
Starting point is 00:14:03 and mouseed up with nubes and putbacks. You know, they're not going to run offense for DeAndre Aten. Just like they don't run offense for Zubox. Yeah. Whatever you get, you get a lob, you get an offensive rebound and don't get it back home. That's how you're going to get your points.
Starting point is 00:14:19 DeAndre Aton's going to get his points the same way. The same way did DeAndre Jordan. DeAndre Jordan became an all-N-B-A selection with number of lobs and putbacks. Rim running, rim-running. Yeah, that's it. But I think, I think Aiden, he has a lot more to his game as far as shooting a 15-footer.
Starting point is 00:14:36 He can shoot the three. They just don't want him to rely on it. You know what I mean? But, man, listen. Let me tell you something. When Luca came back, I know he a bad boy, Uncle Ocho. But, man, what that boy doing out there is unbelievable, man. I mean, he's moving at, Luca, like, you know, AR was playing amazing.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Luca came back, boy, dropped 40 or something. But he getting it so easy because the problem, the thing is, Joe, that Joker, I ain't never seen nobody that can get hot like Luca. Luca can have a 20, 25 point quarter like nothing. You look up, he don't drop four or three, he doesn't got two and ones, and then it got two layers. He got that slow step. What the hell?
Starting point is 00:15:24 Yeah. I said, damn. Hey, he's slow stepping the boys out there. Hey, Ocho, he ain't moving fast, Ocho. It don't look. Hey, Joe, it looks like it's in slow motion, but everything he does work, Joe. Every new move work.
Starting point is 00:15:37 It's angles, bro. It's angles. It's the way he take his angles and his brakes. He can stop on the dive and then hit you with that step back. He got a lot in his arsenal, man. It's fun to watch. And the fake, Hey, Joe, he
Starting point is 00:15:53 And then when you don't jump, he pooped a little push shot. And then he gets you up in there. Then he jumps into you and then kisses off the glass. Like, man, there's some bull, John. Hey, hey, and he got some range too because he's two, three feet out beyond the three.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Yes. On a step back. Yeah, that's tough. That's tough, man. You know, you know, they're playing right now. Yeah, they play in San Antonio playing Wimby. Luca got 17, 6 and 7 No, he got 20, 26 and 7
Starting point is 00:16:26 He got 26 and 7 Damn He ain't even half time yet Joe The force is shaping the world's economies And financial markets can be hard to spot Even though they're such a powerful player in finance He wouldn't really know that you are interacting with them
Starting point is 00:16:43 And even harder to understand Donald Trump's trade war 2.0 is only accelerating the process of de-dollarization, which in a way is jargon for people turning away from the dollar. That is where the big take from Bloomberg podcast comes in, to connect the dots. How unusual is a deal like this? Unprecedented.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Every weekday afternoon, we dive deep into one big global business story. The biggest story of the reaction of the oil market to the conflict in the Middle East is one of what has not happened. Katie, you told me that ETFs are your favorite thing. They are. Explain that. Why is that the case? And unpack what it means for you. Our breakfast foods are consistent consumer staples,
Starting point is 00:17:27 and so they sort of become outsized indicators of inflation. Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Greatness doesn't just show up. It's built. One shot, one choice, one moment at a time. From NBA champion Stefan Curry comes Shot Ready, a powerful never-before-seen look at the mindset that changed the game. I fell in love with the grind.
Starting point is 00:17:57 You have to find joy in the work you do when no one else is around. Success is not an accident. I'm passing the ball to you. Let's go. Steph Curry redefined basketball. Now he's rewriting what it means to succeed. Shot Ready isn't just a memoir. It's a playbook for anyone chasing their potential.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Discover stories, strategies, and overwork. 100 never-before-seen photos. Order shot ready now at stephen curry book.com. Don't miss Stephen Curry's New York Times bestseller, Shot Ready, available now. Keep it up with the latest on JAA and Nightcap fans have been dying to know what your thoughts on the situation. What's going on with Jop?
Starting point is 00:18:38 They suspended Jop for conduct detrimental. They played the Lakers. They had a big lead. AR and Luca go crazy in the second half, and they rate a 15-point lead. The Lakers end up having it at one point, I think a 13-14-point lead. They ended up winning comfortably.
Starting point is 00:18:54 But I guess Jail was critical. They asked J'all, why didn't he play? And J'all was like, ask the coach, blah, blah, blah. And then they asked him something else. He'd say, well, the coach probably thought it'd be a good. That probably helped him win if I was on the bench. So what are your thoughts about what's going on with Jock in Memphis? Man, if I could tell Jock something,
Starting point is 00:19:14 I mean, you just, you got to watch what you say. You got to watch your attitude. You got to watch how you carry yourself, you know, because I ain't going to lie, okay, Ocho, I'm watching the game in the last seven minutes of the game. I'm like, what is he doing? He just passing the ball, going to the corner. He was very nonchalant, and it just looked like he didn't care.
Starting point is 00:19:32 You know what I mean? As a guy who ultimately could have been like the face of the league has a top five signature shoe, like to whom much is given, man, much is required. you know what I mean so whatever the I know they got a new coach in and he's implementing the system that's pretty much taking the ball out of Jai's hands and I think I don't really think he he cared too much for that you know what I mean because he's been rocking with the rock the whole time making plays doing what he do and now they got this
Starting point is 00:20:00 other coach who's like almost similar to like Phil Jackson when he came to Chicago he took the ball out of MJ hand my right run this triangle it's going to benefit the whole team now you know you it may take down some of your stats but collectively as a team, we're going to be better. I think it's kind of similar to that situation. But, man, just watch your attitude, bro. Like, everybody's watching. Okay, Ocho, you know, look, you can't just be in your feelings
Starting point is 00:20:27 about what Memphis is doing when you got 31 other teams watching and trying to see, okay, do we think Jock can fit an eye system? Because, you know, ultimately that's what you're doing, bro. You're still trying out for other teams. But I think, I don't know, maybe it's time for them to move on because it don't look like, I think so. Yeah, Joe, he needs to change the scenery. Joe, I don't know what else you need to see.
Starting point is 00:20:47 I don't know what else you need to see. I'm not sure what else you need to see. You say he needs to worry about some of the things that he's doing. You know, his mannerism, the way he carried yourself. He fed up. He's tired. Joe, sometimes you get tired. Where the Memphis Grizzlies going?
Starting point is 00:21:01 Where are they going? Do they have a chance? Are they going to win with Jaws? Do they have a chance to compete for an NBA championship while Jaws there? Probably not. The chance is going to happen? Probably not. If he plays at a level of what we know Jock can play at that megastar level,
Starting point is 00:21:18 I think anything's possible for the Grizzlies. But the way he's playing now, no. No. He don't have a chance. He pouted. He don't want to be. It was something that was going on. He pouted. It was that situation.
Starting point is 00:21:32 What was that game seven that Kobe had where he just passed the ball? Oh, y'all think I'm gunning the ball too much? Right. I'm going to show you. We'll go win. And he wouldn't stood in the court. that's kind of what Jod did. And Ocho, you say Jod's fed up, they kind of fell up with Jop.
Starting point is 00:21:45 They're not going to have that long leash that they've had in the past. Okay. I think I think he really like Taylor Jenkins. Taylor Jenkins let Junkers have the ball. Yeah. But as you mentioned, Joe, this guy here, and John look at that shape, man. I want to have, I want to pound the ball like Shay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Don't nobody be saying nothing by Shay? Mm-mm, mm-mm. Nah. You know, the way the Warriors play, they play hot potato. The ball don't stick. Ain't nobody, ain't nobody pounded. of the ball right it's popping hey joe i i told you i told you know there's a good chance you know uh i heard toronto was keeping an eye on the job situation um i talked to pat
Starting point is 00:22:24 riley and mickey errison you know they keep an eye on the situation okay you know to get to get jada come over here in a more structured and more disciplined environment i think he'll be happy here down in miami oh joe oh joe oh joe who ain't explained to him joe with with all the bad dancing y'all got going on down there in miami uh oh that that's called a oh you're talking about adult ballet yeah hello there we go and you know pat don't play all that thing yeah that's that like he he run a real tight ship archaucho that's a good thing that's a good thing well it depends if you're going to buy in it's a good thing but if you ain't buy it in then it ain't going to be no good thing joe everybody in the NBA even i know about pat rally you know but you got to understand
Starting point is 00:23:10 he rules with an eye and fist do what you need to do in court when it comes to taking care of business and then you can enjoy yourself outside of that it gives you a chance to relax he don't really let you do that not Miami no that hey
Starting point is 00:23:24 Ocho Ocho Pat got he got he got he got people all over Miami oh yeah I know that I know that he gonna know everything he gonna know everything you do it so when you think you're sneaking out and doing this and that oh yeah yeah they already know
Starting point is 00:23:37 they already know they already know I'm just trying to make my team better, man, so we can come out to east, that's all. Hey, hey, but what I do want to ask you on, I want you out of, when I look at John, I watch him play, I wonder, I wonder how much does he take the weight room series? You know, because with that frame he has,
Starting point is 00:23:58 and the way he play above the rim, he did a lot of landing on the floor. I've watched him several times when he played the Lakers. Yeah, and I know, I know in football, it's mandatory for y'all to lift weights. In basketball, listen, you cannot make it through an 82 game season without being in love with that weight room, bro. You have to be in that weight room.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And when I watch him play, he got that thin frame and he has so many great attributes that I don't know if he really taking the weight room series, you know what I mean? You know, you know, it's funny, Joe, now that you say that, I think as small as he is, as wiry as he is, I think if he did take the weight room seriously but we don't know if he does or not but there's only so much weight he can put on
Starting point is 00:24:44 because his frame is so small you don't want to get too big you don't want to get too bulky because it takes away from the game the weight. Ocho is about taking those falls it's about taking that contact oh yeah yeah look at Steph Curry and then look at Steph Curry now
Starting point is 00:24:57 you can see how his body yeah transition there the transition over the years okay yeah he got Steph got some nice cuts what I'm saying is Jah has that body to where he can be really up and lean and uh i just don't know man i don't know if he take the weight room serious i think that's probably first off you know that's one thing he has to do man you you got to take care of the body bro you got to because it'll take care of you and you need some padding i mean i stayed sore because i stayed lean yeah i mean i mean hey man hey you hit me like that there joe and i'm i'm
Starting point is 00:25:27 i'm sold for three four days i mean i hurt i hurt so bad because i was lean i played it like five and a half, six percent body fat. Yeah. I played a two percent body fat. That's a gladiative sport, though, with y'all playing, man. Yeah, Joe. Hey, hey, Joe. Listen, I commend y'all, bro.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Like, that's, look, I've never played football. But I, you know, I, man, that's. Oh, you got to have a little screw loose, Joe. Hey. You got to have a little screw loose. I know. I know for everybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I know. For everybody. You're right. You got to have a loose screw up. Hey, Joe, I were crazy out there, Joe. Hey, hold on, hold on, yo, y'all used to be off of my, y'all used to be off of my Advils and Tylenolls for the game. What y'all? Smelling salt, Joe.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Smelling salt. Smelling salt. I ain't take no smell of salt. Right before kick off, Joe. I took AdVille. I took Tylenol. I took Tylenol. I take three Tylenol, and I had, they had in my locker.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I had six Tylenol, and then I had, I had three, five packs of Big Red. Yeah. So that big red was my mouthpiece. Chewing gun was my mouthpiece, because I didn't play with the mouthpiece. because I didn't play with a mouthpiece, Joe. Oh, you did, why not? Hey, I ain't playing with a mouthpiece out. I ain't got tired to take those mouthpiece out.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, you know I had a mouth full of goals. I had a mouthful of goals, right? Yeah. I ain't play with no mouthpiece because I need to be able to talk. I need to be able to talk, and I want to make sure you hear me. But before the game, Joe, I take the smelling salt, right? I open the pack, put the smell of salt on my hand right here.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Yeah. Put in a little line. All right. I know. All right. Before the game. Hey, Joe, I was crazy, boy. What's the little thing that they break and then you can smell.
Starting point is 00:27:08 That's a smell of a capsule. Oh, that's the smelling song. Yeah, I used to open mine, I opened a whole capsule and put it on my hand, you know, like it, like it was that stuff. You know, I can, hey, Joe, I'm telling you what I used to do, Joe, to get myself ready for the game. Boy, that's so strong. Huh? That stuff is, listen, they used to put it in a cup. They used to break it, put it in a cup and you could smell it.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Man. Yeah. They got the capsule. They got the sticks now, Ocho. That's a stick. And you just pop the top off. Yeah. And put it back on.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Yeah. But, hey, that stuff would make you, hey, you get it too much, you know, make your ass pass out. Yeah. See, I needed that before the game, Joe. I need to be wired. Hey, we had a guy that, he saw everybody else doing it,
Starting point is 00:27:58 Ocho and Joe. He's on, hey, man, let me get some of that. And you know you're supposed to just like Like in there That joker Oh boy, listen What did you go I roll back in the end
Starting point is 00:28:08 That stuff ain't Ain't nothing to play with, boy Nah, hell, nah But I think it's going to come to an end, Joe I'm going to be honest with you I think I think Joe's time in Memphis
Starting point is 00:28:23 is going to come to an end I do too And I think it's going to be sooner than later I agree And but where don't? If we had to take a few guesses, where y'all think are you going to end up? The Kings need a point guard.
Starting point is 00:28:37 They just gave up Deer and Fox. No, no, no. They need a point guard. No. You want him to go over there. You want him to go over there with Schroeder and Westbrook. Obviously, you got to trade one up now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I don't want to see him over there. Hey, but you got DeRosa and you got Levine over there. Yeah, but I don't want to see him now. I do like, now, listen, I wouldn't mind seeing him playing next to Ant Man now. Hey, boy, you, Joe, you cook it, Joe. Collie ain't going back. Conley don't want to go back to Memphis. Joe, you're cooking, Joe.
Starting point is 00:29:15 It ain't about what he won't, huh? Hey, Joe, go ahead and cook, Joe. Hey, hey, look, if Minnesota can pull that off, because in the playoffs, you know, Ant Man kind of wore down, he needs another guy who can take charge, taking balls of a game. I think that'll be a decent fit. I don't mind seeing them in Miami, but, you know, it's just a lot of trouble with that. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Hey, Joe, you're cooking a night, Joe. It's just, it's just a lot come with it, Ocho. And you see, you see Gobert? Gobert ain't there nothing since he played the Lakers in the playoff last year. You're going to have 27 and 20. And they had 27 points since then in all the games. Hey, uh, Miami Heat, organizations. all the powers that be are probably going to see this they watch the show they are they are friends
Starting point is 00:30:05 of the show uh they let me know when i went to the NBA young boy concert which was held with the heat play in their arena everyone told me to tell you hello unc i'm just bringing that up because now we talk about the miami heat so now you know the officials that work there i know they do see this show so therefore uh you heard what joe said i think personally Miami would be a good place for john moron to come to because of the environment because of pat riley and the The fact that he rules with the iron fist, it would be a good fit for him. Because you already know, when you come here, we don't play no games. I'm going to make sure, I'm going to make sure y'all is good outside of that instruction environment of the NBA.
Starting point is 00:30:44 He's going to be a great representation for the NBA shield. And being here in Miami, he's going to be all right because he's in good hands with me. What do I like to do, Joe, what do I like to do? What's one thing I never do? I never put myself a long way. In Word, you 50. Huh? y'all 25 you think i can you hold on to stay with me real quick you think joc couldn't mind me
Starting point is 00:31:07 i can't get jah to sit nine hours a day with me smoking a cigar oh no game come on come on man hold on playing the video game all day eight nine hours of day no we don't need them we don't need them smoking no cigar playing video games all day i'm i'm saying i want to i really want to see him in the eastern conference because i just feel like the west so thick i think he hit If he goes to the east, it'll kind of balance things out. Because right now, when you look at the Eastern Conference, I ain't looking at nobody but New York and Cleveland probably who's going to come out of the East.
Starting point is 00:31:39 True. I agree. So you send him over there in the Eastern Conference to Miami. I think they got a fighting chance. Yeah. Because the West is loaded. Joe, you cooking tonight, boy, you might be. The West loaded.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Hey, Joe, what's your cash at? Let me see your goddamn money, boy. Hey, you're my dog tonight, boy. I'm what you said, 200. I see it 200. All right, all right, I'm going to shoot it to you. I'll shoot it to you. I see you, I see you too, honey.
Starting point is 00:32:04 I'm a shoot to you. Ocho, Joe, Joe, Jalen Brown strikes again. He had that Beijing on, and it got over rookies, Kishon George, tonight. Can you see it? Can you see it on your, I can see it. Scroll up, but guess what? Look at him. I'm trying to figure out what happened to that man, Hara.
Starting point is 00:32:25 He had twists at one point. What happened? That man had a high top fade, Yeah. Hey, hold on. He had a man unit. So that was a man unit. That wasn't even his.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I was getting ready to sit at. Maybe it was a unit. There wasn't no unit. You don't think so? No, no way. Yo, ain't no way you lose all your hair in a year. That fast. Two years.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Yeah, two years. That's impossible. Joe, you remember he had a hot top and then he had twists. He had knots. Hey, look, look, it's just like God cut. Oh, your hair? God cut his hair. It's time letting go.
Starting point is 00:32:57 But it was a gradual process. Joe, not over two years. Wait, you're talking about me. Yeah, God cut your hair. No, but Joe, you don't understand. I can grow a full, a full head of hair, Joe. No, you can't. I showed unc before I grew it to be on the show.
Starting point is 00:33:09 No, you ain't show up. That's a lie. You ain't going to get me to help me send my soul to hell lying for you. Hey, no, Joe, listen, Joe, stay with me real quick, Joe. I can grow a full head of hair. The problem is when it comes to having hair, with hair comes maintenance. With maintenance comes having to buy supplies to support. support said maintenance.
Starting point is 00:33:31 What does that do? That costs more money. How do I eliminate expenses by not having no goddamn hair? Joe, the hair on his head is just like the hair on his face. That thing splotchy. You got a patch over there. He looked like patched the pony. No, I'm telling you, there are many pictures of me with a full head of hair.
Starting point is 00:33:52 You ever told you. I can see, look, on the side, yeah, your hair grow. But on the thing, that thing smooth and shiny at the top. Which means ain't no hair growing there. No, you acting like I'm Caucasian. No. No. That thing got a shade. That thing got shade.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Don't know grounds going over the shade. I'm going to show you. I'm going to grow it out. I'm going to grow it out. But I need y'all to tell me how J.B. did this. How did he go from that? He had the kid. He had the kid fade.
Starting point is 00:34:21 He did. He did. I don't know. But I'm going to start blaming his barber, too, for putting his dry race and stuff on his head. and you know he got to go out there and play, man. Yeah. See, you got to get that, what you're called,
Starting point is 00:34:34 you got to have that rinse. So you can't put that spray on that because you start sweating. You see the more Baptist, the Baptist minutes than the Pentecosts the middle and they get up there, that thing, coming down on all these cards. They start dripping.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Yeah. Hey, you got a pound. Hey, how you do it, brother, Sharp? Hey, give me the pound. You're for the best of my suit. But, J.B, come on, J.B. Hey, you got to let that go, J. Yeah, because he had got like that.
Starting point is 00:34:56 He had called LeBron. He had a guy. Hey, LeBron said, I can, hey, hey, you see LeBron to let his go. LeB., you know what? I fought it long as I could. I fought it until I was 40. I'm at peace with it now.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Yeah, yeah. But hell, J.B., in his 20s. Yeah, he probably was. Jay Buh, he's 20s. He late, man, Aunt Ocho, I know some dudes when I was in high school who had went baldheaded, so it don't matter because he ain't his 20s now.
Starting point is 00:35:23 It do matter. Because, Joe, you got a $300 million contract. you got everything you get everything you want except here you better go to turkey you go to turkey and they only charge like $7 follicle and you know it's funny everybody keep going down to Turkey to get their head done
Starting point is 00:35:41 but how come nobody in the U.S. understands what they're doing in Turkey and brings it here so we ain't got to take that long time? They can do it but Joe Ocho they charge $7 follicle and USA charged $10, $15, $20 follicle. Okay, okay. So you know how I mean the hot follicle? because you got it you got to pull out the back of your head to get that to grow you know what the procedure is called and is it painful yeah because they do they do give you some numbing medicine because they got to pluck it out you know they numb the scap a little bit joe but you like they pluck it out at the bat and putting it in there man look I'm glad but you know if you know anything about hair this hair is different than the hair in the back of your hand yes that's why that's why it looks different Man, listen.
Starting point is 00:36:29 And you know what I won't? If the Ocho care can't grow, because the Ocho got that beat you back here. Nah. Yeah. Call to the front, they beat you to the back. Hold on, hold on. This, see, this is what we're not going to do.
Starting point is 00:36:37 We're not going to make assumptions about my hair texture when I got good hair in my family. I got, look at my kid. Hold on. This is how you know I got good hair. Look at their mama. Because they mama. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:48 They mom. They who? They mama. No, they, no, they mama's got good hair because of me. I don't, I don't, I don't. Huh? I don't sound right. No, I'm just saying, Joe, my kids, long, luscious, beautiful black hair, you know?
Starting point is 00:37:04 That ain't got no long, beautiful, luscious hair. My daughter got long hair. Ain't got nothing to do with me. Her mom got long, her mom hair longer than hairs. Well, no, my, my, my, everyone I have kids from when they ballheaded. So, again, no, you ballheaded. They got hair. No, see.
Starting point is 00:37:22 You got, see, you had, I remember when you were younger, you had police hair. Roll up and park anywhere on your head. Hey. Hell no. Hey. I'm feeling good. But I can't, but I'm just saying at that point,
Starting point is 00:37:39 at that point, and the thing is he's looking at it like, man, I got a full-ass beard, a full beard, and up by head, ball is scalling. Hey, man.
Starting point is 00:37:50 It happened like that sometime. And you can't have it all, right? Yeah, J.B., you can't have it all. You want to have three. $300 billion. You want a beard.
Starting point is 00:37:58 You want a hair full of hair. Yeah. Damn. You can't. Hey, you know what I want to try? Hey, Uncle Joe? What? I want a beard, like a lace front beard and a full beard.
Starting point is 00:38:08 You're going to go get their unit. They do that for you. You know how in Philly, you know, the beard in Philly is like a staple of a, yeah. I want, I want a full beard. That'd be dope. Oh Joe. It's cats out here really getting their unit put on their face, man.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Sweat of God. Yeah. You get that little man. need to put to get your whole little. I mean, but I'm talking about the kind of look real, Joe. I ain't talking about no, you know, yeah, it's real. Hey, man, I've been watching, they be putting, they be putting, uh, uh, uh, uh, dreads that look real.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Yeah. Hey, hey, I got to do that for a show, uh, tell me where to go, Joe. Do what for a show? Like, get the, get the, get the, get the, get the, get the, get the, get the, get the unit with some dreads. I got it, I got a, I got a guy out here who can get you right. Man, you break your ass out here looking like predator if you want to. Now, hey, hey, hey, hey, you know, hey, come on.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Hey, Joe, where he at, Joe? He's here in Atlanta. I got a guy for you. I got a guy who, you know, no, Joe, I'm serious. I'm going on the show with the whole little, hey, what, hey, looking like a little skinny raw. Just get the beard, though, Joe, you don't need the dreads. Okay, I'm going to do the beard.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I'm going to do the beard. Yeah. Yeah, hey, Joe, hey, hit your boy. Tell them, let me know how much. And I, I, you know that, hey, did you know the flight of Atlanta? My sir, it's 45 minutes. Man, listen. I'm going to hit him for you.
Starting point is 00:39:20 I'm gonna have something for you. Oh, yo, don't go to that ladder, but you don't, hey, you want to be in that four-hour line going through TSA. You see that? Yeah, I saw it. Wait, what happened to TSA? God, if they ain't getting paid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Wait, hold on. Oh, so they just say, forget coming to work. Hell yeah. How long the government going to be like this on? What do you think? Hey, somebody got to give. Yeah. Hey, will they get back pay for the time that's missed?
Starting point is 00:39:48 No. They're supposed to, but, probably not. Damn. Because this might be an opportunity for them like, hey, we're going to go ahead and lay y'all off. Go ahead and lay y'all off.
Starting point is 00:40:00 If you're trying to trim the government, what better wait? Hey, look, they're going to have them robots in there working in a minute. Hey, that's tough, man. That's tough. I feel for people that actually have government jobs
Starting point is 00:40:16 and they're having to deal with the issues of it being shut down right now. and see this is a time like now. And the people that need those snap and knee wick. Hey, does the president have power to oversee and overrule whatever it is that's going on right now? All I know is that President Trump said when President Obama had a lockdown that it's on the president. He got both houses. He got Senate and he got the House and he got the Supreme Court and as a Republican president.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Right. So I don't know whatever you all want to say, all I know is that we've had the longest shutdown and government history on his watch. How long we've been shut down, huh? How long we've been shut down? What? Damn it to like 30, almost 30 days? Oh, we've been shut down a whole month? Hey, Joe, see, this is why you need
Starting point is 00:41:03 people like me as president. This is why you need people like me in positions of power to make some of the calls. Now, you might not like the jokes. You might not like the entertainment, but when it comes to making sure the people are good, that's why I come into play. That's why I come in to play.
Starting point is 00:41:19 the American people would not have to suffer. You hear me? 10 years ago, oh, Joe, but you know what? I remember 15, 20 years ago, that was seen far-fetched. That ain't far-fetched anymore. Anybody. You don't really have to have qualifications to be the whole
Starting point is 00:41:32 I'm qualified. I'm qualified. It's one, hey, Joe, I can switch you up like no other, Joe. You don't have to be. That's the point. That's my point. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:40 It used to be that, like, okay, you ran at some local level, you ran, you know, you ran at a state level. You ran at some, level now you got a name you can be it you just need somebody back Arnold Schwarzenegger was governor Clint Eastwood Jesse Ventura Al Franken there been a lot of people just that got into politics just don't name the president of United States
Starting point is 00:42:04 he never held public office before at no level yeah so it's not as far-fetched I know I know you I think you're saying in tongue-in-cheek but in actuality it's not as far fetch as you as one would think yeah yeah long as you got the right backing somebody backing you that's it now you got you gonna be bought and pay for it you do realize that right you don't run up you don't make no decisions oh well listen when it when it comes to the world and how the powers that be worked i know the people that we can visibly see i know they don't make the cause i know they don't pull the strings i know the people that pull the strings i'm not going to talk about it but i know how it works i understand that all jokes aside i know who really who really
Starting point is 00:42:45 hits the budget day 36 we've been shut down the government well we the government well we the The American government has been shut down for 36 days. We, we all, we all shut down. Yeah, but look, I mean, look, and I think the thing is people are fighting for these benefits to snap programs and to try to keep the cost of health care down. Because you got to realize before ACA, they call it ObamaCare, it's the American health care situation.
Starting point is 00:43:11 You do realize companies can kick you off if you had a pre-existing condition. Also, you got asthma. Now we're not going to insure you. Oh, you've had cancer before. We're not going to insure you. Now they can't do that. See, you won't have none of these problems with me in office. You won't have none of these problems with me in office.
Starting point is 00:43:30 I mean, I'm here for the American people. Huh? Everybody said it for the American people until they get in office. And they're for American self. Listen, is there anything? Is there anything I've ever said if that ever said and then follow through with it? Think about it. You can't, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:43:48 you can't, because you can't get in there without the back of that money. Yeah. So, I know people, Unk. Can I tell you the people I know they had the money? Go ahead. Can I speak real quick, Joe? Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Listen, I have a very strong existence down there in Mexico, right? You know, you know Brother Carlos Slim? Yeah. Yeah, very good friend of mine. You need to know Elon Musk. Hold on. You need to know, you need to go, Larry Ellison. You need to know Zuckerberg.
Starting point is 00:44:17 That's who you need to know. You need to know Peter Thiel. That's who you need to know. So you ain't even let me finish. Okay. I got heavy hitters in my roller deck just like that. Maybe not to that magnitude, but I'm talking about with the bees on the end, huh? No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:44:30 You do realize. You know how much Elon Musk's worth? Yeah, I know like 500 billion? Yeah, okay. You know how much Larry Ellis's worth? Yeah, that's my homeboy. Larry Ellison? You know Zuckerberg?
Starting point is 00:44:42 Yeah. So you got to get in people with that, Ocho. Now, their agenda. They want deregulations. Right. They want a system of no checks and balances. Mm. Yeah, talk to me.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Okay. Now, we ain't going to talk. We're going to move over. Yeah, yeah. Hey, we don't want to make a political show. That's not us. Clay Thompson has been benched by the Mavs. The annual Russell moved in the kids starting lineup.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Didn't matter the Mavs law to a Zionist, Pelicans tonight. Clay has been struggling. He entered tonight shooting 31.8% from the field. and 26% from the three this season while averaging 8 points tonight. He scored 11 points tonight. The Mabbs are now 2 and 6. Luca is averaging more points than Cooper Flagg, Anthony Davis combined this season. Man, it's hard.
Starting point is 00:45:33 When you got a rookie out there playing point guard, he ain't no point guard. I know, that's what I'm trying to say. You got a rookie out here playing point guard who is not a point guard and Clay needs guys around him who can playmate for him. You know, he's not a guy now that you can just throw him in the ball and, man, go get us a fucking.
Starting point is 00:45:51 No, no, and go one-on-one. That's not what he is. Nah, so you got, you got him surrounded by guys who really trying to ISO, get to the cup, and they're trying to get their own if you just want to be, if you just want me to keep it 100. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:03 And he's kind of, he's, he looked, he looked lost out there. If you asked me, Ocho. He does. Because look at, who can get in the ball? PJ Washington, that's not his role. Gafford, that's not his role. lively, that's not his role.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Hooper Flag ain't no point guard. He's trying to get his own. The only guy really that can get involved, he was on the bench. And that's DeAngelo Russell. Now Russell's on the court, now he's on the bench. So what he should have done,
Starting point is 00:46:30 and I understand, he should have took his ass to L.A. and had an opportunity to play with LeBron that can find a shooter in the corner. That's going to get you excellent shots. Right. I just think with the unfortunateness of, you know, Kyrie not being there,
Starting point is 00:46:45 you know, it's obviously made his job a lot harder. He doesn't get the looks that he normally get because Kyrie can play not only for himself, but the guys around him. And, man, yeah, like, he just, he doesn't, he looks lost out there when I watch him play. I just see a lot of guys trying to get to the cup going one-on-one.
Starting point is 00:47:05 It's not, it's not really a system for him. No, it's not. And I don't know. I mean, I don't know whether it pride, I don't know if Golden State what they offered, but he'd have been better staying in Golden State taking less money.
Starting point is 00:47:22 They weren't going to keep him in Golden State. Not at the money that he wanted, no. Right, so that's an insult to him that the fact that he didn't want, what, four championships? Four championships. Man, he's like, hold on. He felt like they probably owed him some back pay. And the fact that they ain't want to pay him, he probably thinking like that.
Starting point is 00:47:39 But you do realize there was two years, he didn't do no play. Because remember, he tore his ACL, And then he tore his Achilles. And they still kept him $30 million checks coming, Joe. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, hey, because you got to realize that Steph, Steph, now they owe Steph because they got Steph on the cheap
Starting point is 00:47:57 because his ankles were so bad. Yeah. So they owe Steph. Steph should be able to play till he farted and say, you know what? I ain't what I once was, but y'all owe me. Because there are times I was lighted it up and y'all paying me chicken feed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Hey, they don't made up for it though, huh? No, hell no, not with Steph. I don't think so? Look here. That's the most expensive franchise in the NBA. Right. $11 billion. They owe Steph a billion.
Starting point is 00:48:28 They owe step a billion. Joe Laker and Peter Gruber, they owe step a billion dollars. Yeah. From what he's done for that franchise? Absolutely. Because they were out, look, Golden State, they'd have a couple of years. They upset. Who they upset?
Starting point is 00:48:44 was that the Mavericks. The A.C., they upset the Mavericks. Yeah. But for the most part, ain't nobody. Steph Curry really put them, look, when they had run TMC, when they had Mitch Richmond and the Hardaway and, Mullin. Chris Mullin.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Chris Mullins. Good. But them guys had retired 20 years ago. Yeah. Long than that. It was Steph. Steph and Clay and Draymond. So,
Starting point is 00:49:11 Drayman responded to Kevin the Red, recent comments. said that offense, not defense, is the key to winning championships. KD, who's two finals MVP alongside Green with the Warriors, recently claimed that elite offense is more important than team success. The more important to team success, excuse me. But Draymond pushed back, saying, if anything, it was like a hair scratcher. I was like, huh? But on the flip side, it wasn't that much of a head scratcher because I know Kevin.
Starting point is 00:49:39 I think when you look at any team that is won a championship, they had great defense. And if you look at most teams that couldn't quite get over the hump, oftentimes it was because they couldn't get stops. Those who don't believe defense is valuable if it simply they don't win. I don't think anyone ever really been
Starting point is 00:49:56 hell been on carrying an opinion about those that don't win because of your opinion equals zero. I think, look, both could be true to an extent. Yes. When you get into playoffs, the game slows down.
Starting point is 00:50:14 And the teams that do have a guy or two who can go get his own, who can go get a bucket, that's valuable. That's very valuable. Also, I understand what Draymond's saying, yeah, you got to be able to get stops. You got to be able to guard your yard. You got to be able to play defense where you don't have to give as much help. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:50:37 So let me ask you a question. If I take KD off that 17-18 team, the Warriors, so there's no KD. It's Steph, Clay, and Draymond, and it's Karee, LeBron, and that staff, the Warriors beating him. Brown got, he had two more championship. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Yeah. I don't know if they remember in both game three is what Kevin Durant did. It was Kevin Durant that hit the shots, both games that was heard around the world. He was the guy that could, he couldn't stop LeBron, but he could match LeBron. point for point. Now, Steph could go point for point with Kyrie.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Now, Clay, they really didn't have anybody that can match up with Clay because that was the difference. Yeah. You wouldn't stop in LeBron. Look at LeBron. He asked a 30 point triple double. But if nobody stopped KD. KD was the guy
Starting point is 00:51:28 that when I needed a bucket, KD, okay, one four. KD, go get your stuff. Go get what you need. Guess what, Uncle Ocho? You couldn't double teaming. You couldn't double team KD. Not with Steph. Not with Steph
Starting point is 00:51:42 and Clay out there. You cannot double team and so you have to live with the one-on-ones and you have to live with the result. You got to hope that man missed. And he was unbelievable in them two finals runs. Bro, he gets that ball at the nail. You cooked. It's a wrap. You just got a hope he missed.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Because you got, because you got Clay in one side, you got step on the other. Now what you're going to do? Where are you going to bring the double team from? He can't. That's why he was final. was MVP two years in a row. Yes. You can't.
Starting point is 00:52:13 If he post up, he could play with his back to the basket. He was the only guy. He could get his shot. No, look, I believe you look. I believe Draymond, yes, you need defense. Yes. But in basketball,
Starting point is 00:52:28 you got that dog, you got a guy that sometimes you don't think they try to play defense on Mike? You don't think they try to play defense on Kobe and Shaq? Shack averaging 36 and 18. What defense you got to stop that? Give a damn what you throw at it. Hey, look, and Kobe was right there with him,
Starting point is 00:52:48 averaging 30. Yes. And Shaq average in 36, Kobe was having 30. I'm talking about in the playoff runs that they was having, man. That was just Mike average in 41 in the finals. What are you going to do with that? Hey, and the funny thing, too, the way the game has changed,
Starting point is 00:53:03 especially basketball where you play defense, defense is not the same as it was back in the day anyway. I mean, I always, I always hit the chirps and I always hit the grumblings about they don't play defense these days and so is it really, is defense really that much of a factor when it comes to winning NBA championship?
Starting point is 00:53:20 They jacking up a whole bunch of damn shots. Yeah, it's, hey, look, it's almost like, it's like the NFL, they don't soften the game and made it made it a possible for, you know, the quarterbacks. Right. It's the same thing in the NBA. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:34 You can't hand check no more. You know what I mean? Like, it's so many, different variables to enhance the game and make it. It is. You know what's happened, Ocho? Yeah. What has happened?
Starting point is 00:53:47 These guys are skilled, so skilled. Yes. And the game has been taken, you know, the physicality. So now it looks like, man, this got better than Jerry Rice. This got better than Miranda Moss. This got better than T.O. Well, they've taken the physicality out of the game. And these guys are skilled.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Yeah. Guys, I mean, guys are skilled. I mean, you know, this thing called evolution. You know, guys get better at things. They study the old guys, and they add to what those guys could do. So now you take a Devonte Adams that can run right exquisitely without the physicality. He ain't got to worry about nobody putting that suit bone upside his head.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Hey, Ocho, think about last week. How many one-hand catches you saw last week? I saw more one-handed catches in the first three, four weeks of the season than I was seeing a whole year. yeah in the NFL hey Joe you had to think you had to think twice okay go up that way Joe you had to think twice during our day about going across that middle forget one hand just having an understanding of where everybody's coming from before the snap of the ball so you knew exactly where it was coming from Joe I'm telling you as as reckless as I played without a care in the world I understood where everybody was coming from Joe I had to know
Starting point is 00:55:06 because they're already trying to knock my head off because I talk shit before the game throughout the week. Right. I talk shit during the game. Joe, I got to know everything, Joe. Were they doing that day today in today's game and the way the NFL is handicapped the game
Starting point is 00:55:19 where it's unbelievable some of the players are making without caring, without worrying? Without consequences and repercussions. With none. Yeah. Hey, look, when I first came into the league, okay, Ocho, there wasn't no fives and four shooting threes it wasn't
Starting point is 00:55:38 Antoine walker was the only guy and he was a power four he was the only guy shooting threes now if you can't shoot the three or catch a lot you can't even play you can't no post up you don't see many guys post up now
Starting point is 00:55:54 now the guys who post up they're small they're the guards you know what I mean from like you you know when I used to watch guys before I got in the NBA I still love watching obviously Michael Joy and Penny Hart of way, Kobe Bryant, Tracy McGrady, and those guys post up.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Like, your scores post up. Yeah. They're not throwing it down there to DeAndre 8, no, 10, 12, 15 times a game. It's just not going to happen. Right. You know what I mean? So if you can't shoot or catch a lob,
Starting point is 00:56:24 now in today's game, it's going to be hard for you to play, brother. Yeah. So I think that's what's happening is that, and these guys are extremely, extremely talented. But because of the physicality in both sports has been diluted somewhat, I think it gives us a false sense.
Starting point is 00:56:43 And that's not to take anything away from these guys because I do think they're extremely talented. But man, physicality, boy, you, A, you thought long and hard. You had, hey, there are a lot of prehistoric receivers had the T-Rex on. And the maligate on. I ain't want that.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Hell no. Boy, you go across the middle with Mike Singletary. And next day you know, You're looking at your earhole. Because they, I remember the first time I was retired, and I thought I saw a three-step slant route. And I was like, I know that guy just ain't run no three-step slant route. Boy, Joe.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Back in the 90s, the 80s, the 90s, the 90s you'd have ran that one time. I guarantee you. They couldn't have paid you enough money to run it again. Listen, listen. They put that hill, they put that hill, but right here. Hey, Ocho, my rookie year, I played against Stockton and Malone. Pick a road. Ocho, I've seen, I seen Malone coming down the middle of the lane.
Starting point is 00:57:50 I was right up on the goal to take a chart. I old laid that joint. I let him lay it up. The man came in there with his knees almost at my face. I said, look, coach took me right after the game. He said, hey, you got to take that time. I'm like, man, I need. No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:58:06 for them safe. You're standing in front of that. No, so. All right, Ocho, Joe, it's time to play. Fade. Play or Fade presented by prize picks. All right,
Starting point is 00:58:30 here's the three-pick power play ahead of Thursday night football. Joe, Ocho, Bo Nix, would throw for more than 218 yards. Who they plan? The Raiders. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Hell yeah. Yeah, yeah. We'll have to deal with Max Cross because he's going to be an issue. Yeah. What are they playing at? I'm going to take y'all word for it, Joe. What are they playing at? They're playing in Denver?
Starting point is 00:58:58 Oh, yeah. Hold on, that's your quarterback, and you're taking that word for it? You don't believe in him no more? Yeah, I believe he. okay okay it sounds like you had some doubt over there yeah yeah jk daubbins more than 72 yards rushing i don't know about that one that's all you aunt yeah i'm i'm a little lear about that russian 71 71
Starting point is 00:59:33 how he's been playing on oh he's been playing good oh he's been bawling oh he I think he top ten in Russia yeah that man has I got him I got him in sending it too he'll get you out sitting it too too
Starting point is 00:59:48 Ray you do got a good run defense though What a Raiders ranked red defense, Ash? Hey, okay. Oh, Joe. 15. So they're middle of the pack. Middle of the pack.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Yeah, we get 72. We should get 72. Yeah, that's all we need. Come on. Okay. Gino, less than 213 yards passing. Man, they let Jacoby go too, man. Yeah, I don't know if Gina's going to get there.
Starting point is 01:00:32 You still got Brock Bowers. You still got Brock Bowers. Yeah, I'm going to say, no, he's going to go, no, he's going on with that. You think so? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. This is I got caught up last week the other day. We might get him, though.
Starting point is 01:00:51 And we can put pressure on it. We might get him. We might sack him about 10 times, but second by 10 times. Do you know what I'm going to go less I'm going to go less we go sack it we're going to sack it We're going to sack it we're going to get his ass Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay we're going more With everything, Ash?
Starting point is 01:01:17 You said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay We're going more, more or less I show hope he ain't watching. $25 to win $100. $150 download the app today. Use Coach Shannon to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. It's good to be right.
Starting point is 01:01:37 All right. We're going to get you out of here on this one. Time for our final segment of the evening. It's time to say Q and A. You can't say foot or ball. I mean, it's a new week. I mean, obviously, you can't say. You can't say that until you win.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Hold on. You can't say foot or ball after a 24-hour period. That goes out of the window. No. You can't say foot or ball until you win another game. Life resets. No, it don't. Hannah said, Jalen, is three-for-three from the airline.
Starting point is 01:02:26 all card you say either the camera's playing trick or that intermittent faster kicked it in real I watched yesterday's show and tuning it today like hold up what happened what's your mind I did only eat once today
Starting point is 01:02:48 no bad but I don't think they'll be it'll be faster I will start I think I'm going to start next week Synergy, energy. How do you feel about Nick's opinion from the first, from the first, first things first, what he had to say about the Broncos? What do you say?
Starting point is 01:03:07 What do you say? The Broncos aren't real. Oh, yeah, you got to realize. Nick's from Kansas City. He's a, he's a Kansas City, and it's a great time to be a fan of Kansas City. But Nick, no. Like, I know, we used to beat the brakes off Kansas City.
Starting point is 01:03:30 So it's by the time y'all gets a payback. But the Broncos going to beat Kansas City when they come to Denver. Watch. Donnell, G. St. ranked these receivers one through four over the past 10 years. A.B. Mike Evans, Lafitz, Gerald, Hopkins. It's close. one is close out of A, B, and fits. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Man, Ocho, that's, this Ocho, this is your expertise here. I mean, I'll probably go Larry Fitzgerald, then A.B. And who are the other two? D. Hop and Mike Evans. Mike Evans and then D. Hop. Y'all heard it from the Y-Receiver extraordinaire. Adab Smith said, Cote's got secondary. that can compete any passing unit in the AFC.
Starting point is 01:04:29 The move to get sauce was to help stop Pat and Josh. Yeah. They can. But that defense ain't going to mean anything if you turn the ball over six times. Yeah. Well, listen, and the funny thing about it, too, Uncle Joe, you think about it, the goddamn Colts turn the ball over six times and only lost by seven.
Starting point is 01:04:50 They only lost by seven. So you take away two, maybe three of those turnovers, they probably still win the game. You're right. Yeah. Tino Davis said disappointed in my chiefs not getting Breeze Hall. Yep. I'm just, I mean, I'm not disappointed.
Starting point is 01:05:05 I'm a Bronco fan. I want him to have a little help as possible. Philly talk with PA. Howard Roseman said multiple times, AJ wasn't going anywhere. I understand, though, you need clicks. Find it funny. Media only tries to bring down Philly players love the show.
Starting point is 01:05:21 No, he said he wasn't trading him now. We'll have this car. Oh, you think it's going to go away in the off-season? Can you tell Philly talk with you? I don't think fans understand how the business works, don't. They don't. They're so caught up like in
Starting point is 01:05:36 right now and what's going on. They don't understand how the business side of things work and how owners and those in positions that call the shots, they don't understand how they think. Shelton Pope, ISO, can Coach Cald discover and develop the next NBA
Starting point is 01:05:54 start Arkansas, like he did in previous stops, Memphis and Kentucky. Well, y'all see the talent we got there in Arkansas? Yeah, we ranked 14, but we got some, we got two. Hold up for Duke forms, that money play it up, that chicken money pay it off, huh Joe? Hello, hello. But we got some, we got some nice freshmen. Darius Aikov and Malik Thomas, those freshmen have been, you know, totaling the scoring low, but we don't just got the freshmen,
Starting point is 01:06:23 I mean, we got some other guys that's, you know, been around the block and know what it takes to win. And, you know, Kyle's going to get the talent down there. Now, we just got to put together and see if we can bring another national championship down. We overdo it. You're a new, Jorge Castillo, said, Ocho, you're a new GM. Who you take it? PS2 or Asante Samuel? Asante Samuel Jr. or PS2?
Starting point is 01:06:50 I mean, which one? The senior. Oh, shit. Well, that's a good one there, boy. It is. Cassignia was really good. Very. Hey, that goddamn senior
Starting point is 01:07:03 gonna go at 7, put them heels in the ground and dare you, I dare you. He and he got to be in your face. I dare you to throw it. Mm-hmm. Oh, that's a good way. Hey, listen, I'm gonna go with Asante. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Hey, as greatest P2 is right now, I'm going with Asante, boy. For him to be the size that he is, 6-2, 6-3, and the fluidity in which he moved on show. He can stab left, he can stab right, flip his hip, drop, dry. I don't know, I mean, you probably got to go, like I'm talking about a big corner.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Mike Haynes was, that was before your time, it was before my time, but I remember Mike, to see a big corner like that long-ranging that had that kind of technique, Adam Lewis was a tall corner. Similar, similar to Bobby Taylor. Yeah, Bobby and Troy Vincent. Yeah, he's more fluid than Bobby.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Yeah, much better. Way more fluid than Bobby. Much better. Bobby, Bobby was physical. Yeah. But the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, he's not, damn. Hey, he's not, he not budging. He's not budging until you go.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Okay. Look, bro, you doing all this thing. Now, you do realize I know you're doing all this dance in the line. You ain't going deep, right? So I ain't getting about this back, man. I just want you to know. Philip Turner, why the media make it like sauce washed up? He just got to a Super Bowl contender.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Watch how he about to turn up and war coming back. I bet if the chiefs of the bills had made the trade for sauce, they would have been praised for it. The coach, just not the team they're promoting. I'm not so sure one of those teams would have given up what they gave
Starting point is 01:08:54 but the Colts gave up I get why the coach did it bro you do understand let me ask you this Philip you think the Broncos would take two ones
Starting point is 01:09:04 for Pat Sartan the second hell nah you think you think the Texans giving up Stingley Jr? No so you you keep talking about that
Starting point is 01:09:16 but you have to ask yourself in the middle of the season after they just paid this man $120 million. You're not asking yourself the right question. You're talking about why ain't nobody hypered it up and everybody's done this because people looking like, well, damn,
Starting point is 01:09:32 I gave up that much. What do the Coles know that we don't? What do the Jets know that we don't? They're the one that signed him. You're right here, a young corner. He's a, what, two, three-time pro bowl player. And the team is willing to get off you four months after they gave you that?
Starting point is 01:09:53 Guess what? That's the thing I love about sports. You get to prove it, don't you? Yeah. Every single week you get to prove it. Yep. And maybe you're right, Philip. Maybe being in a different environment,
Starting point is 01:10:06 being on a team that's winning, maybe that reignites him. Man, it's hard to stay positive when you get in your eyes beat out every damn week. As a matter of fact, and speaking of proving it, there's a very, very big game that the Colts are playing this Sunday.
Starting point is 01:10:21 I forgot who they're playing, but it's a very good game. God damn it. I don't know. Damn, the Colts got a good game this Sunday, man. What's up? Ocho, question.
Starting point is 01:10:36 If Ocho was on your Broncos team back in the day, would you guys still good alone? Would Coach have had a hand? Like, oh, Ocho will be blocking. Blocking who? That corner? that safety in the West Coast system
Starting point is 01:10:54 look at Debo look at Jennings you can't play in that system because that's the only way the running back is going to have success because you're trying to turn 10 15-yard routes into 40-50-yard touchdowns
Starting point is 01:11:07 and sometimes you have to knock DBs you have look at T-O people don't realize how good of block of Tio was Tio B, 50 yards downfield blocking it. Hey Tee get a handle you
Starting point is 01:11:18 boy you ain't going nowhere, boy. Yeah, I'd have Ocho right. I'd have Ocho right. Ocho to have some jewelry. Ocho had already been in the Hall of Fame. You probably had to put some knots up side of his head, but you didn't have it right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because he'll come in here, you don't do Miami boys. They come in there old old's a bulljide, man.
Starting point is 01:11:39 You know what? I like it the way it is. I like, I like it. I like it's cool. It's cool. uh no chill will do you think do you guys think AD gets injured more from basketball or from celebrating out the good game all right no I think he came in he came he came in the camp a little overweight man and yeah if you use training camp to get in shape you you're gonna have to deal with them soft tissue injuries yeah because your body ain't used to carry that hey look
Starting point is 01:12:13 in basketball if you don't enjoy running right the game ain't going to be fun to you man you're going to deal with a lot of injuries and that's going to take the love away so my tell cats man
Starting point is 01:12:27 my son in college he got he got his home boys who get on the phone how can they improve their game be in elite shape go run it two three miles yeah isn't I offered everybody
Starting point is 01:12:41 in my services, regards to sport you play, to prevent soft tissue injuries, to prevent injuries in general. I mean, I've done all I can. I let everybody do it they wait. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We greatly, greatly appreciate that support.
Starting point is 01:13:01 I am your favorite on Shannon Sharp. That is my partner and co-host. That's Liberty City's Own. That's Chad Ochosinko Johnson and the third member of the Big Three that joins us every wins. throughout the year. That's ISO Joe Johnson.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get the podcast from. Thank you again for your support. Make sure you check out Shade by Laporteur.com. Head over to Laporteur Canyac.com.
Starting point is 01:13:30 If you can't find it in a city or a state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. The best-tasting premium VSoup cognac on the market. Try it, compare it against others, and you'll see what we've been saying all along to be true. Please direct responsibly and stay safe. Also, follow my media company on all of its platforms.
Starting point is 01:13:50 That's ShayShay Media and my clothing company, 84, with 84 being spelled out. It's that link is also pinned in the chat. Thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow night after the Broncos put that beat down on the Raiders. I'm proud. He's Ocho. He's ISO. See you tomorrow night after the game.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Thank you for joining us. He's that. Greatness doesn't just show up. It's built. One shot, one choice, one moment at a time. From NBA champion, Stefan Curry, comes shot ready, a powerful, never-before-seen look at the mindset that changed the game. I fell in love with the grind.
Starting point is 01:14:43 You have to find joy in the work you do when no one else is around. Success is not an accident. I'm passing the ball to you. Let's go. Steph Curry redefined basketball. Now he's rewriting what it means to succeed. Shot Ready isn't just a memoir. It's a playbook for anyone chasing their potential.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Discover stories, strategies, and over 100 never-before-seen photos. Order shot ready. Now at stephen currybook.com. Don't miss Stefan Curry's New York Times bestseller, Shot Ready, available now.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.