Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Lakers & Mavs pursuing KD, Warren Sapp speaks on Shader, & someone found Ocho cleats

Episode Date: March 7, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Lakers and Mavs possibly pursuing KD this off season, Warren Sapp talks about Shadeur and someone on Facebook found Ocho’s old cleats, and much more!!05:30 - Warren Sapp20:21 - Signed Ocho cleats23:00 - Bengals roster adjustments26:23 - Darious Slay Jr. on elite quarterback32:49 - Omarion on open relationships35:24 - Ashanti on spinning the block37:36 - Q&Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ocho Warren South. Our boy spoke about the anonymous NFL coaching, the coach talking about Shadur. Let's take a listen to what Sapp had to say. And then we talk about a quarterback coach who's not a decision maker, wants to make that call about our quarterback. Dog, I've been working for the last 48 hours to get his name. If I get his name, oh, buddy, we're going to do a deep dive into his life.

He's going to wish he had never did. If you're not a decision maker, shut up. And if he doesn't understand what it is to be the baby of a family like that, he has all Bucky

and Shiloh's strengths and his sister and none of their weaknesses. He's the day walker. You ain't gonna find a more loyal guy than Sapp. I've been knowing Sapp for a minute. anytime he call or ask

the same, I ask the phone the same way. What the hell you want, Sapp? Man, I told such and such that you was gonna say that. I said, yeah, I'm always gonna such that you was going to say that I said yeah I'm always going to say that but he's right I mean and it's always happened at some point in time there's going to be somebody

I don't like the way he tied his shoes I don't like the way he didn't hustle on this play I mean that's the whole job of the combine the combine Chad stay with me for just a second the combine job isn't to build you up. It's to break you down.

It's to tell you about all your flaws. And why you shouldn't go where you go. You're not fast enough. He's not big enough. The point of attack, he gets lost. His transition isn't good. He's not good with his eyes. He's not good

with his hands. His arms are too short. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? He don. He's not good with his eyes. He's not good with his hands. Oh, his arms are too short. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? He don't play with a low center of gravity. They telling you all the things the guy. Tell me what he can do, damn it. Because I got to take somebody out here. So what can they do? You telling me everything that he can do.

I need something. Tell me what he can do. And then we can go from there. Yeah. And listen, the combine is a trip. I know it's about, you know, your measurables, your intangibles and all those things. How fast, how far you can jump, how far you can, you know, do all these things. To me, the combine really doesn't matter.

I think that's why some people choose not to do it. And they wait till they do their pro day. Because what can you do when you turn on the film? That's what I want to see. If I was a GM, if I was the owner, let me see your film. I don't care what you can do in shorts because the game of football at the highest level

isn't played in shorts and a t-shirt. It's just not. It's just not. Now, you know, watching you run and do drills, that's all cute. That's cool. But in the instructing environment, when it comes to playing, you ain't running the drills like that. Uh-uh. At all.

It's just for Sissy. Hold on. Hold on. Tell Sissy to cut you some watermelon. Tell her I said now. Tell her now because daddy's working. Okay? Well, that's the thing, the ultra. until I say it now until now because daddy's working okay but that's the thing though but that's the thing I mean

I promise you Chad I know y'all don't want to believe this but the greater the athlete the more arrogant and the more confident that that individual is he believe it don't stay. He believes he can walk on water. He believes he can park the Red Sea.

He believes he can heal the sick. That's the mentality that you have to have. Do you understand? They don't. A lot of times when it comes down to individuals, the talent is not that much different. It's the mindset in which they display that talent. Yeah, there it is.

I don't think people understand that. Now, I think this is where people get confused, too. When you think about players that are elite, the first thing they'll say, well, Tom Brady wasn't cocky. Tom Brady wasn't arrogant. He paid money for being arrogant. That's why on the outside, I wish people actually knew them. Not the

masks that they put on when it's time to talk in front of the camera. It's about knew them. You feel me? There's a reason why they're so great. There's a reason. Believe. When people talk about Michael Jordan, what'd they say? That Jordan competed in everything. there's a reason why they're so great there's a reason believe when people talk about Michael Jordan what they say that Jordan competed in everything

he don't like to lose the great players Bobby Bristow beat John Elway on his pool table John sold the pool table that's what greats do man I'm telling y'all Joe hey John sold the pool table, huh? Yep.

I mean, that's what Tom said. Hey, y'all remember when, what was it? The Flaygate, and they had some messages, and they leaked Tom messages. What did he say? I played the best football of my life. Hey, Peyton on his last legs. He about to be done.

Right. That's it. What you think Kobe thought? You thought Kobe thought he was like the rest of the guys in the NBA? You think LeBron James actually think he's like the rest of the guys? You think Jordan Magic Bird? Do you think the entrepreneurs, the the actors so you think denzel think he's just like any other actor is that what you think by all the davis thing merrill street

they're just like anybody else stop it stop it you think dr neil elletrosh you think james andrews anderson you think they just they think they're just like any other orthopedic. Really? Is that what y'all think? Y'all don't think that. Y'all don't think that. It's a mindset. And you got to have it

to be successful. Yes. You got to have it. And that's what happens when people, I don't know what they, I just know them, how they treat me, and most time,

athletes treat other athletes well. I mean, hey, such and such man, my mom is here. Can you meet my mom? Can you meet my dad? Can you meet my, okay, sure.

Yep. But you got to have that have that you gotta have a belief that i'm a bad mofo got to i believe i'm the baddest that's the mindset you have to have to be great the greater you are, the bigger your ego. The greater you are, regardless of what you do, let it be sports,

let it be entertainment. The greater you are, the bigger the ego. Yeah. Every time. So, with that being said and look so what do you want the man to say

he don't believe he's good he don't believe he can turn a franchise around I mean I'm trying to understand what is he supposed to say that I don't believe yes I went to HBCU turned that program around

look at it we're ADSB and we're ONESB That I don't believe, yes, I went to the HBCU, turned that program around. Look at them. We're ADS being, we're the only ESPN. If I'm not mistaken, I think they might have had a college game be down there one day. Okay. I go to Colorado. Remember what Colorado was before we got there? Turned them around.

Turned that around. So why shouldn't I believe I can't have that same level of impact or influence on an NFL team? You got to have that kind of confidence. You got to. Who goes into something thinking, man, I might fail? Well, that's what's going to happen. You already done put that bull job in your head. Mm-hmm.

Well, most of the time, you know, a lot of people want you to be humble. You got to makes them uncomfortable. No. Because you have fear. That don't mean that I fear what you fear. Just because you afraid to be successful. You afraid to follow your dreams. You try to poop on mine.

You try to, oh, you think you better. No. You was good, but you didn't think you were good enough. I think I'm good enough. I don't need to be better. I just need to be good enough. Now what? Now you mad at me.

Because I'm living out my dreams. I followed my passion. You didn't follow yours. You let somebody talk you, trick you out of your spot. Man, you can't do that. You can't go there. You can somebody talk you, trick you out of your spot. Man, you can't do that. You can't go there. You can't be this. And you believed them.

I listen to the one. When people told me, Shannon, I couldn't go to college. And if you go to college, you can't go to the NFL. If you NFL, you're just going to be a guy. I listen to the one person that when everybody's told me what I couldn't do, I listen to the one person that told everybody's told me what I couldn't do, I listened to the one person that told me what I could do me. Cause at the end of the day, what you telling me,

so what impact are you going to have? Are you going to catch passes? Are you going to block? Are you going to run these routes? Are you going to get in front of this camera? Right. Five times a week for nightcap first day and come up. Are you going to be able to do all this? No, you're not. So why would I, why am I listening to you? five times a week for nightcap, first take, and come up,

are you going to be able to do all this? No, you're not. So why the F am I listening to you? Man, please. As a matter of fact, now that I think about it, you're watching me. Why the F would I listen to you? You're watching.

Those that can do, those that can't, talk about those that can do those that can't talk about those that can. Say whatever that will tell you. I'm going to say I like that one. I like that one. I ain't telling you nothing I couldn't do. Did it. But I'm not going to let you tell me just because you didn't do,

just because you didn't follow your dreams, you didn't follow what you wanted to do, and somebody talked you out of that, why would I ever listen to you? Do you understand where I came from? Even if I don't accomplish anything else in my life, I am a huge success by any stretch of the imagination. That's if I don't accomplish anything else.

If something unforeseen, God said, well, Shannon, my faithful servant, come on home. Can't nobody tell Shannon Sharp he wasn't a success. Can't nobody tell my family. Can't nobody tell my kids he wasn't a success can't nobody tell my family can't nobody tell my kids my loved ones anybody can't nobody tell Shannon Sharp

wasn't a success because they saw where Shannon came from and they saw where he ended up see a lot of times people

measure success by what you did you measure success by overcoming what did. You measure success by overcoming what you thought you couldn't do. So every time, hey, it got hard, it was cold, that's alright. My girl used to always tell me

no matter what happened, and it got bad at times, my grandma said, boy, it take all that to make a man. Barney and Mary Porter said, we raise men. Don't make no excuses. I don't make no excuses. I get it done. Get the job done.

Or I'm going to do the best. I'm going to give you everything. If I didn't get it done, you know, Shannon put everything he could into it. He just didn't get it done. Right. But I agree with Sap. I don't know why. But I told Ty this.

I said, Ty, it's about you. See, they couldn't find flaws with you, so they take it out on your son. You know what I'm saying, don't you? Guys that were older than me, they couldn't bully my brother so they tried to bully me I ain't no easy win

you ain't gonna get no rep off me my brother hey you couldn't bully him that you gonna try to bully his brother that's three years younger I'll pick up something and bust hell out you hey it is what it is man you don't fight fair

what it's a fight don't fight fair what it's a fight dumb dumb a fight is not I don't know last time have you ever seen a street fight that was sanctioned if they got a governing body

for street fights no a brick a chair whatever everything gets your hands on and the funny thing about it you know

Prime has to do it Prime got to do it already ready for this yes he's been dealing with it his whole life he's been having to deal with it his whole life

because of who his father is so I'm sure he's right I know it doesn't bother him he's going to be alright though he's going to be alright and I hope he does exactly what he said he was going to do

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Damn. What happened? Well, we figured it out. Hold on. What are these? What happened? Well, we're here to find out. Hold on. What are these? What happened? A woman posted on Facebook,

anyone have interest in these or even know what they would be worth? Chad may want them back. I received these from 85 Chad Johnson Bengals 2006 New Year's Eve game. The shoes were laid aside at training camp that was attended. I've tried searching for familiar items online and haven't found anything. Ojo, you signed those? You want your cleats back, Ojo? Yeah, nah, I don't want them back. I want that Hall of Fame jacket I made back.

That's one-on-one. I need that. The cleats is cool. Listen, that's 2006. I was doing, you know, you see how they have cleats today? My cleats, my calls, my cleats. How do you say it? Yeah, my calls, my cleats.

I mean, I've been doing my calls way back then in 2006, but I was getting fine for mine. You know, create my own bangle cleats, you know, having a little fun. Yeah, you can only have two colors. You couldn't have three. But, look, the NFL has laxed a lot of rules. And I think, look, I like this, my calls, my cleats. For a worthy cause, you auction the shoes off,

and it gets money goes to the charity that you're trying to raise awareness for and hopefully sell the shoes and it goes for a large amount. So I like that. I like guys getting an opportunity to give back for a very worthy cause. But damn,

y'all didn't give me my money back and I donated. Give me the money y'all took off off me for having shoes. Talking about the shoes got three colors. Y'all let me see. They are. Man, now they worse. First of all, I mean, guys now, Ocho, guys coming to the league,

guys play special teams. Might not even be active and got a cause. Got cleats. How you going to how you get, how you going to the shoe searching? Boy, how you going to this guy getting Cleese made for $5,000 and you playing four plays a game?

I'm like, damn! Come on. I'm just saying, don't you? Hey, that's messed up, man. Man, these dudes here, I want my money back. I want to donate it. I'm just saying, Ocho. Hey, that's messed up, man. Man, these dudes here, I want my money back. I want to donate it. I got a worthy cause that I want to donate for. So give me the money back that y'all took from me over the years.

It's six figures, trust me. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I sure wish I had my fine money back. Ocho, the Bengals will let Trey Hendrickson seek a trade. Teams are also calling about Tee Higgins. Tee got franchised. Hendrickson is going to leave. Chase wants to be the highest paid non-quarterback.

I believe Chase wants at least, Chase wants to be the first receiver to go 40 million. It's not going to be good enough for him, Ocho, to be 37, 38. He wants to be the first to break 40. Chase isn't saying the question I have for you is ownership doing enough to show

Joe Burrow, bro, we believe in you and we're going to try to give you all the necessary equipment you need in order to win. Right. They haven't shown it yet. Can you hear me

on? I'm going to make sure I'm clear. They haven't shown it yet, but I'm sure they will. Joe Burrow seems like the type of quarterback and the type of person that doesn't play. Just by the way he carries himself. You're not going to waste my time. I'm not going to waste yours.

I've told you what I need behind the scenes. I asked you to get it done. I told you I wanted Jamar Chase. You got me that. You got me T. Higgins. Now you understand what I need offensively To be productive And to be consistent Now we have lapses at the beginning of the season But you see what happens once we turn it on

And we get ourselves into rhythm I need them here People are mad about Trey Henderson Them allowing Trey Henderson To seek a trade or let him go Well if you look at the deep Trey Henderson was there last year He led the LNSX Our Henderson was there last year. He led the Saks.

Our defense was still abysmal. Yep. Can you imagine what that defense would be like without Henderson? Yeah, it was still bad. Hold on, I'm trying to think. Who did they play the last game of the season? And he went, oh, Pittsburgh. Yeah.

Remember he played in Henderson like three and a half, four sacks? Three and a half, yeah. If I'm not mistaken, yeah. He was balling. He was balling. Last two years, he has 35 sacks. He had 17 and a half in 23 and 17 and a half in 24. So that's 35 sacks in two years.

Yeah. I'm just saying. And guys like that, them guys, hey, them guys don't grow on trees now. No, they don't. They don't. But listen, you got to understand. What are we going to do? If you pay Trey Henderson, somebody got to go on that offensive side.

Yeah. Now, them allowing Trey to walk lets me know that we might be a little bit closer to actually having T sign and Jamar Chase sign. But again, what are we going to do defensively? Yeah. That's what needs to be addressed defensively. Because they put so much pressure on you, Ocho, to have to play like they have to play.

They feel like they have to score every possession. And so when you play like that, Ocho, one mistake. You see, Joe would have one mistake in a game, and it's the difference in the ball game. Right. So it's going to be interesting to see. Guess what? They got until July 15th to get a long-term deal with T

because they signed a franchise tag. Chase ain't trying to wait until July. Chase tried to get his money like yesterday. That's what Chase tried to do. Darius Slade does not consider Jalen Hurts one of the league's top quarterbacks. Let's take a listen to what Slade had to say about his quarterback, Jalen Hurts. Former. The elite go to the top four guys.

You know what I'm saying? That's how I do elites. And like elite for me in the quarterback world is joe borrow my homes uh um dang lamar yeah and uh and josh allen them little elites they got their own you know i'm saying you put joe you put uh uh hertz in that group this is funny now i just i just talked about this on first tape. You know, when I did my, I didn't say elite,

just the best quarterbacks right now in the NFL. Yeah. I went Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. Then I went Jalen Hurst simply because he just kept, he ain't just coming off

a Super Bowl. Mm-hmm. Then my third, I put Joe. And I saw people upset about that. I'm basing it off the season that we just, that we're just playing. And obviously, people would be like, why would you put, why would you put Joe at, Joe third?

Let me ask you this. Hold on, hold on. I'm a banger. I'm biased. I want to hear what you got to say with this one. Go ahead. I'm biased. I'm biased.

Normally, or how it should be based off the season. It should be Patrick Mahomes, Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, then Joe Burrow. Am I correct or am I wrong? I think he's looking at it like this. If I took Josh Allen and put him with the Eagles are they worse than they are with Jalen Hurts are they better if I take Joe Burrow and put him with the Eagles if I put

Joe Burrow are they better or worse if I put Lamar Jackson I gave him the exact same team he has Saquon he has that defense he has those receivers if I put Patrick Mahomes they got that same running back, they got that same receiver, they stay at that same defense. Now, I take Jalen Hurts, and I put him in any of those other guys' system.

What you thinking? Thank you. what you thinking it'd be completely different it'd be different because in those other systems those guys are asked to do things that Jalen Hurst doesn't have to do with the Eagles agree the problem is Ocho

is that the ring culture has ruined it. Because we take a guy, okay, Joe Flacco got a ring. So now people believe that Joe Flacco is a better quarterback than Josh Allen, than Joe Burrell, Lamar Jackson, or anybody that, and I just don't believe that.

I don't believe Nick Foles, Nick Foles is a Super Bowl MVP. Nick Foles isn't a better quarterback than Lamar. He's not. He's not a better quarterback than Joe Burrow. He's not a better quarterback than Josh Allen. He's not. He's not a better quarterback than Dan Marino.

He's not. Right. But because we've equated rings best. No. Not the way it goes. That's not how I do it. I don't. Now, if you're talking about,

now when we're talking about great, I believe you can be great without having a ring. Where rings come into effect, Ocho. Yeah. Is when you're talking about EST, Great Tis. But it's not the end-all, be-all, because now you have to add other things.

All-NBA, all-pro, all-star, Pro Bowl. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Things of that nature. Offensive player of the year, defensive player of the year. Things of that nature. Did you play?

How did you play? How long did you play? And how great were you? I mean, look, it's hard to take a situation like guy was great from start to finish. Tom Brady was not great his first year. Peyton Manning was not great his first year Peyton Manning was not great his first year but boy those years in between

between the first and the last they tore a lot of people's ass up so that's just me look everybody has everybody has their opinion on how they judge greatness Ocho this is so subjective that's your opinion I look at it one way their opinion on how they judge greatness. Ocho,

this is so subjective. That's your opinion. I look at it one way. That's just me. Darryl Slade also named Reed Blankenship as the natural leader of the secondary. It's just Slade to part. Reed being around me and a lot of veterans before, I'm sure he can lead that group the right way.

That's who I feel would be leading the group. If it ain't in the building, he's a great damn leader. TJ Gardner Johnson saw this and responded, Vets' presence is always needed. Don't get me wrong, but bro, what vet is needed when young guys can hold their own? Coop, Coop, you got a crazy duo in Reed and me, and supporting cast Ringo, Zah, Dre, Sam, Eli, Sidney, Tristan.

Stay with the youth, you ask me. I mean, I agree. A veteran presence is always good to have, especially in certain circumstances. Having that experience is a good thing. I think it's a good thing. And it's one way for the young bucks to learn. I don't see it as a bad thing at all. Are they arguing going back and forth on Twitter?

Yeah, I think he said that. I think CJ thought Slay would say he should be the leader. I ain't getting into that. Last vet that replaced me helped y'all get to the door in the wild card round. Remember that? If we need a vet that played a lot to help us, sheesh, then learn from the last mistake. Not a crash shot, just keep it real.

He felt some type of way because Slay didn't say he should. Let's move on, don't you? Okay, okay. Omarion says open relationships are the way, one reason being because there are only a few good men out there for women to choose from. I would say for me me being open is important. And also, you know, the women just truly outnumber the men.

You know what I mean? I love this conversation because I think we men are open and honest that you don't want to have just one thing for the rest of your life. It gives a woman an opportunity to choose and to further understand a man because I think women don't really understand a man. What you thinking on Joe? It's a complicated, complicated conversation.

It's a conversation that's been had year after year. It's like constantly meeting a dead horse. You find what you like, you find someone that is like-minded like you with the same values and principles and morals. And you go from there. Women do outnumber men. The women that are looking for certain types of men, the one percenters, it's only so, it's only so many of them. Very's only so many. Very, very few of them. Not as many. Not as many as you think.

Therefore, they get the pick from whatever they want. It's tough out here. It's just tough in general. It's tough in general. Each his own. Each his own. I'm out the game now. I ain't got to worry about that. I'm out the game now. You know, I ain't got to worry about that.

I'm out the game. Oh, my homeboy out the game. He in the DR. Yeah, my mom, I'm out the game. But see, I was down there at the MIA. They made me say, where Ocho? I said, man, I don't know Ocho. He's supposed to show me around, go to Twin Peaks. Ocho.

You remind me for real? I was. When? Today. Oh, wait until you were coming. I would have flew back home. No, you wasn't going to fly back home. It's all good, though. Were you still there or you left?

I'm in Atlanta now. Oh, damn. Bro, I've been to Houston, Miami, and now I'm back in Atlanta. Oh, back to back? In one day.'ve been to Houston, Miami, now I'm back in Atlanta. Oh, back to back? In one day. I went from Houston to Miami, Miami to Atlanta, night cap.

Now hopefully I can, it's three o'clock, I ain't slept a day. Three o'clock? But, it's four, it's... It's almost three o'clock. Yeah. Nah, it's almost four in the morning here

the con is an hour ahead yes asante ashanti excuse me ashanti says never say never when it comes to spinning the block what i've learned is to never say never that's number one and what's meant to be will be regardless of how you feel what you think, the timing, what's in the universe for you will be there regardless. It's okay when it's genuine and you've grown. You can't be spinning the block and hitting your head on the same curve. You know what I'm saying? You have to grow from whatever the problem was earlier. You have to grow from that and mature and understand each other

and have a mutual respect. And I think that's what made it special for us. I like that. I like that. I mean, listen, it's beautifully said. Spinning the block at times I'd assume would be a great thing

because it's obviously something that you're familiar with. Yes. So, listen, I'm all for it. If it works for them, I'm happy for them. You just have to be careful, Ocho. Sometimes familiarity breeds contempt.

Familiarity sometimes breeds contempt. People get comfortable around you and say or do whatever they feel they want to. I don't play like that. Yeah. Yeah. Until you get fed up.

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on Audible. Alright, Ocho, we've already been an hour and 30 minutes in this thing, so now it's time for Q&A to wrap it up. Hey, uh, hey, while I'm here in the dr right i what do we call it the portable uh wi-fi thing i don't know what a portable wi-fi portable hotspot so it makes it clear just oh yeah yeah yeah oh you got an air Airbnb or you in a hotel? In this big-ass Airbnb.

What? It's 10 bedrooms. Okay, yeah. I mean, they should. I mean, the Wi-Fi should be great over there. But you might have to get what you call them. It's not. It's not.

As big as this place is, they have Wi-Fi. I connected, and it was laggy before we even started. So I got my daughter's phone to use on her hotspot, went the Wi-Fi on top of that and it still ain't right. Well, you probably have to do that, bro. What's it called again? Call them.

What's that? The hotspot? No, I'm saying the portable thing you can buy from like a Best Buy or something. Oh, uh, Jordan, what is a

portable thing that you can get better internet service that you can buy from Best Buy or something? Oh, you got to go to Verizon or T-Mobile. And what do I ask for? What do you ask for? What's it called?

We got to go to just go to Boost Mobile. Hey, Boost Mobile, we need you to send a, what is it called? A mobile hotspot. Okay, that's what I call? A mobile hotspot. Okay, that's what I need, a mobile hotspot. Yeah, so what you need to do is that you need to travel with it.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I'll do that. Hey, Ash, that's your responsibility. All right, I ain't get my sign either. You didn't go to your grandma's house I went to my grandma's house before I left to come to the DR But the kids, it wasn't there Yeah, it was Somebody signed for it, they dropped it off

But nice try though I promise you Big Mike said people hate what they can't understand. True. Kevin said what should do or be a top five quarterback if this was last year's class? And what quarterback would you compare him to? Doesn't matter. He's not in that class, Kevin.

He's in this class. Just imagine if I'd have graduated in 87. I'd probably been the best player in the country, but I graduated in 86. Imagine if I'd have come out in 91, but I came out in 90. We can't do hypothetical in a situation like that.

All I know is he's extremely accurate. He can throw receivers open, which you need to be able to do in the NFL, which is throw guys open because you have to have great anticipatory skills because if you don't, Ocho, guys are not going to be running scot-free

like they do in college. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. And so is he the most athletic? No, he's not Lamar. He's not Caleb Williams. He's not Jane Daniels. He's not Kyler Murray. He's none of them.

He's more Tom Brady as far as mobility, Peyton Manning, than he is to the guys that I mentioned before. But Tom Brady played all those years. Peyton played all those years. Peyton played all those years. Drew Brees played all those years. Phillip Rivers played those years. Yeah. The question is, do you believe he can play?

Do you believe he can lead your franchise? He's only played quarterback. Arthur Murray Jr. said, which would you rather, Carnival or Mardi Gras? I've never been to any. But I heard Carnival, that thing be like that.

Yeah, Carnival is nice. I like Mardi Gras. Because I've been seeing some of the women and how they be over there. I say, yeah, that'd be me right there. Yeah.

That'd be me. New Orleans for me all day. I'm Mardi Gras all day. You Mardi Gras over Carnival? Nah, you miss me, bro. All day. All day. All day.

I got to experience just a little bit of the New Orleans culture at Super Bowl. Carnival. Hey, Chad, what y'all think? Carnival or Mardi Gras? They probably gonna pick Carnival because they want to see the women and all. Listen, I like New Orleans. When I got a chance to experience,

that was live. I enjoyed that. J213, how are you? Hope all is well. Who are some musicians that we lost to early? I feel like Aaliyah is the big one. Be blessed. Sam Cooke. Otis Redding.

Who else? Jimi Hendrix. Amy Winehouse. Amy Winehouse. Amy Winehouse. Oh, Marvin Gaye. Marvin Gaye, yeah.

Oh, hell, Prince Michael. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they were relatively young, yes.

Yeah. Who? Whitney, Whitney. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Whitney. Hey, what a lad time they chat.

What a lad time they listen to Amy Winehouse music, man. Tupac, Biggie. Yeah. You listen to Amy Winehouse song? Yeah. They're trying to make me go to rehab. I said, no, no, no. Man, that woman had a voice.

Man, that woman. I saw the documentary. That thing broke my heart, though, Joe. Love her music. It broke my heart. Love her music. That woman knows she can sing. Jeez. Really good album.

Dr. Frank L. Bellamy. Hey, fam. Regina Hall was on Jimmy Kimmel tuesday night and she's having problems with raccoons in the house don't you love raccoons maybe you can come over there save the day be her superhero just joking love y'all you know what doc now that you bring to my attention you know i got a trap out in back now. It is. Slap a little sticker. Hey, rip me a pickup from U-Haul,

from U-Haul. Slap aside a, a, a, a, a fence, you know,

rodents, vermin, whatever you want to call them. I get rid of them. Hey, how you doing? How long you had these problems? When did you notice it?

Right, right. Cause normally, uh, uh, they're nocturnal, so they're really active at night. Right. Oh, so is that when you're hearing them most of the time? Because they most of the time, raccoons, sleep during the day.

Huh, interesting. Maybe I should stay over to make sure that you don't hear them tonight. No, I didn't. I didn't. Man, let me stop. You know how they're going to be. Man, Oxy. No, I'm just kidding.

Manifest it. No, no, no, no. Manifest it. No, Oxy, but seriously. Here's the thing that you have with pests animals are territorial yeah so if you remove them and you don't close off where they came in another set of come yeah so animals are very squirrels raccoons they know uh man, that house over there, hey, they left. Hey, we can take a shot there. So that's the thing

that you have to have happen, is that if you have an infestation of animals, have them removed and then have the area in which they came in have that closed off. Because if you don't, if you remove those and don't close up where they came in,

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