Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Lamar road block, Cowboys blame game, disturbing viral video

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson defend Baltimore Ravens Lamar Jackson amidst a disappointing end to the season. Later, Unc and Ocho react to seven different Dallas assistant coaches from 2022 or 2023 will be participating in the NFC Championship game, the guys react to a disturbing video that a real estate developer shared footage of him being profiled by a neighbor at the home he built in an affluent neighborhood and much more!03:20 - Lamar frustrated post game26:48 - AJ Brown goes viral36:00 - Real Estate Developer viral clip of racial profiling52:00 - Q and Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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terms, and responsible gaming resources. Oh, Joe, Lamar was absolutely frustrated and disappointed post-game. Let's take a listen to his comments after the game. First half, I had two costly turnovers. Me not holding the safety. Me just knowing the cover. Me knowing it was mad. Threw a BS interception.

Game, it was 7-7 at the time. I believe they scored after that. Battle back. Fumble. Snap, trying to make something happen. It was like an RPO play, so I couldn't really throw the ball to likely the offensive line or down the field. So I was trying to make something happen. I couldn't throw, it was like a RPO play, so I couldn't really throw the ball to unlikely, you know, the offensive line

or down the field. So I tried to make something happen, tried to squeeze the ball, it slipped out of my hand. Von Miller picked it up, got some yards, that led to points for them. So it's a team effort out there.

You know, he's been busting his behind, making plays happen out there on that field for us. Came up short. And like I've been saying all season, every time we have situations like this, turnovers play a down after a fuss came up short. And like I've been saying all season, every time we're in situations like this, turnovers play a factor.

Pennies play a factor. Today, well, tonight, the turnovers can't have that shit, you know? And that's why we lost the game, because as you can see, moving the ball wonderfully is hold on to the fucking ball. I'm sorry for my language. This shit annoying. Tired of this shit. You're very frustrated.

Yeah. Because like I said, I believe he thinks, there's sometimes you lose Ocho and you like, you can lose and not like, we should have won this game, but I'm not so sure

we're the better team. Right. I believe deep down to a man, Ravens believe they're the better team. Yeah. We played them early in the year. Nothing changed. They got the same players.

We got the same players. The location really shouldn't matter. No. Because, Ocho, we've lost games. Like, on our Super Bowl run, Ocho, every team that beat us, we lost to Kansas City in Kansas City in the regular season. Right. Come back in the playoffs, beat them because we felt we were the better team.

Pittsburgh beat us in Pittsburgh during the regular season. We went back and got that ass. Yeah. Because we felt we were the better team. Pittsburgh beat us in Pittsburgh during the regular season. We went back and got that ass. Yeah. Because we felt we were the better team. And Mike showed us, you don't turn the ball over. Think about this here. You don't turn the ball over here.

We don't give them extra possessions. If we don't turn the ball over, that team can't beat us. Right. Why you bull jiving? He right. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And most of of the time they don't hit you to ask them you're not thinking about okay you're right but when he when he showed us those clips we watching it he's looking at this right here if we hold this block a little longer

timber what's gonna happen seven's Seven's going to hit 84. He's going to hit, look at Rod come free on this play. Hey, you get your head inside across this, look at this gap that TD got to run through. Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, okay. Ah, okay, Pittsburgh, we got

something for y'all ass. Are we coming back to get that? And with a Super Bowl birth on the line, and that's the way we approached it. Hey, we don't turn the ball over against Kansas City, they can't beat us. With that pedestrian ass offense, they can't beat us.

No, they can't. They can't. Wait, matter of fact, I got a question. Yeah. Was Priest, no, that's too, nah. I played against Priest. Priest was on our Super Bowl team in Baltimore. Okay.

Okay. And then he was a free agent. He goes to Kansas City. But what y'all saw Priest do in Kansas City, he's doing that practice. Yeah. Hey, Priest was not... We put Priest in the game. Priest was just like that, what you saw him do.

Mm-hmm. I say, oh, he's going to be special. I say, oh, have mercy. I sure wish we could keep him. He had one of the prettiest running styles and running forms. Him and Amon Green. The priest. But it was nice.

He's like, hey, he's like, Shay, I had to baptize him. But he was a good... Man, I hate that he had that injury, Ocho, because you know he had a very similar injury to what Bo Jackson had. Bo Jackson had, yeah. A very similar injury.

Same thing. Hip popped out of socket. He was able to come back once, but he was never the same player. It wasn't to the extent, but it was a very similar injury. You could hear Lamar talking. You could hear the frustration.

Obviously, the NFL would like it if he didn't curse, but like he said, man, I'm sorry for my language. The frustration is built up because the finality of it, Ocho. They're getting them trash bags tomorrow. Lamar's going to be at the Super Bowl,

and he ain't going to be a participant in it. He wanted to be at the Super Bowl, Ocho, and then at the honors, they have him. He's in a conference room, and he's talking about congratulations. You know, hey, I want to thank everybody that voted for me. The team, this is a team MVP. My teammates, Derrick Henry, the offensive line, Coach Harg, believe in him. That's what he wanted. He wanted to do that.

He wanted to do that interview, Ocho, via Zoom. Yeah. I don't want to be there in front of the audience to hold that trophy up. I don't want to do that. I want to thank y'all. I want the trophy to be sitting beside me. I want to hold a trophy up from my room, from the conference room,

and have my offensive linemen, and have my teammates behind me. Right. That's what I wanted. So it's bittersweet. I could, I could, and see the thing is with him,

I noticed with like, when he gets like frustrated, he start bouncing, he start going side to side. Side to side. He start, he start, so he really, he starts going side to side. Side to side. So he's really agitated. Yeah.

I could tell people keep commenting that I never liked Lamar. I implore you to go, can we put that up there? Play that. Let him listen to that. I can't because it's somebody else somebody else's somebody it's uh it's undisputed so we'll get back in the same kind of kind of issue again yeah okay okay oh they definitely gonna do that me boy okay

but if you go back and look at the end i can't't even put care. I can't, I put it up on my, uh, in my, uh, um, I could put it up though. Right. Oh,

you're on your IG. Yeah. Forget IG. Everybody that's watching the chat, all them follow me on Twitter right now. Anyway, so I can just say, this is what Shannon is talking about.

Listen to this real quick. Yes. Okay. I'm going to do that real quick. This ain't got nothing to do with like or dislike. I'm just giving you the fact. With a guy just like Jared Goff. So I guess I didn't like Jared Goff because I pointed out he turned the ball over.

That led to them losing the game. I mentioned the drops by Andrews. He's going to probably be even more disappointed than Lamar. He had a big drop. He had a fumble that led to point. Andrews, he's going to be, he's going to probably be even more disappointed than, than, than, than Lamar. He had a big drop. He had a fumble that led the point. Yeah. Led to three points.

He had to drop the two point conversion. So he's going to be, but I look, they said that when I used to kill Tony Romo, I didn't like white quarterbacks. I kill Aaron Rodgers. I don't like quarterback. I kill Baker. I didn't like black, white quarterback. If I say something about it Romo, I didn't like white quarterbacks. I kill Aaron Rodgers. I don't like quarterback. I kill Baker. I didn't like black white quarterback. If I say something about it, Oh, I don't like black. I hate my own people.

So I think I'm doing something right because y'all say, I don't really like anybody when my home doesn't play. Well, I point that out. Have I not pointed out that my home didn't play? Well, of course, turnovers help you lose a ball game. My point was people are like, well, you didn't like Joe Burrow. It ain't got nothing to do with like. I'm saying his turnovers is costing his team.

It doesn't matter how well you play. If you turn the ball over, you're going to lose. Go back and look at Lamar. Ash, how many yards did Lamar have in his first playoff game against the Titans I think he had over 500 yards of total offense I think he had like

300 passing go back and get go back and give me Lamar's first but he had turnover his first playoff game against the Tennessee Titans

they were that was the first year that he won the MVP bear with us just a second That was the first year that he won the MVP. Bear with us just a second. But remember, Ocho, that was the year he had 36-6. Yeah. No, no, not his first and second year.

The year he won the MVP. The first game, he started halfway through the season. ended up losing to uh they lost to the charges ocho the charges put like four safeties on the field to match his speed matter of fact but for the for those of you uh that printed put it on put it on the ipad ash go ahead what are you saying no i'm saying for those of you that in the chat uh to give you better context better context on on what unc had to say about lamar jackson for those of you that feel he doesn't like him because he's critical of him when he doesn't play well i just i just tweeted it out short youtube clip if you have opportunity even while you're watching here you can go go to my twitter page my twitter to my x page it's the last thing i tweeted and

just listen to the things he had to say once lamar got drafted and and really basically everything unks said you know before it even happened kind of turned and came into fruition so you even you can listen to it real quick and that'll give you a better assessment on how he feels about lamar despite him being critical when he doesn't play well. But that, that'd ruin the argument though, Ocho. And then you won't have anything to say.

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We got to stick together. See, if the Twitter mob don't like Unk, I can't like Unk either. So let's just go with that. Now, when Unk was the only one on television speaking up for george floyd yeah i ain't hear him say nothing when up was the only one when skip and i was talking about calling kaepernick every day when everybody else went away from it right we were talking about it i don't know like black people i don't know how his own people. I don't like this. I don't like that. See, y'all don't want to do the research and look at it and say, well, damn. I see what he's saying.

It's an update your resume league. That's what sports is. You don't get to be back. You don't. Oh, Joe. It wasn't like you could have, okay, I led the league in receiving. I'm good. So I'm exempt.

Oh, no. It don't work like that. Did he have a fumble? You didn't put it in there, though. Okay. In the year that Lamar won the MVP, his first MVP, he went 36 passing touchdowns, six interceptions. In the loss to the Titans, he was 31 of 59, 365, one touchdowns, six interceptions. In the loss to the Titans, he was 31 of 59,

365, one touchdowns, two interceptions. He rushed for 143 yards, had another fumble. My point is, look how great he played, but do y'all believe those turnovers played any role

in the Ravens losing the game? Yes or no? You absolutely do. But because I pointed it out, guys, we got to stop this. We've got to stop this, that blacks can't critique blacks and be critical of their play. Stop this, y'all. It ain't about no dislike. I've got to point the obvious out.

He played well. But those turnovers directly, that's almost Ocho. That's 500 yards of total offense. Offense. But those three turnovers hurt their chances of winning. So tell me why y'all think he frustrated. So tell me why y'all think he frustrated. So since his turnovers didn't have

any bearing, he's going to be the MVP. So you tell me, shouldn't we expect more from an MVP, Ocho? No! I don't critique Baker Mayfield as hard as I critique... Oh, really? So you're saying Baker Mayfield and Lamar Jackson on the same level playing field. They like this.

No. Come on, Chad. Come on, my people. We better than that. Hold on. Did anybody listen to what I said? Did y'all go to Ocho Twitter, X-Plaid? Did y'all listen?

What did I say? I was the one that went on TV and said, hell no, don't you change no position Lamar Jackson, you're a quarterback. And if you can't play a quarterback, say, then I'm going to move. But I'm not moving before y'all give me a chance to play the quarterback position. I said

I thought he should go in the top 20. The Ravens had a 16th pick. I said, he's going to the Ravens. He's going to the Ravens at 16. Because said he going to the Ravens he going to the Ravens at 16 cause I felt that they didn't get him at 16

they weren't gonna be able to get him cause somebody gonna snatch him up hold on come on chat well I need

I need to be able to see this can I see this part of this in this little section right here cause I wanna see what they saying now

cause I know they don't I know they didn't went to it and saw it. The chat moving too fast. Go ahead. I just want to see what they're saying now. How you slow it down? You can't slow it down? No.

Hey, y'all stop typing so fast. I can't see. But that's all I mean when a guy plays well I'll say a guy played well Jesus Christ but when he doesn't play well what am I supposed to do

I'm supposed to say he played well when he didn't play well hey Unk it ain't no way i can slow my chat down or just stay going like this it's gonna keep moving like that because it's moving like that it's got hojo we got what 70 plus thousand people in the chat yeah call a friend let's try to get to 80. tell a friend but yeah that's the thing Ocho look yeah and I get it time told me something about this long long time ago he said he said sharp you have to understand your boys carry a lot of weight because of who you are and what you've accomplished. So you just ain't some random talking about football. People know when you talk the way you talk, you know the game, you understand the game.

Plus, you're credentialed. Your resume is impeccable. You were a seventh round draft pick and accomplished what you accomplished. So your word is going to carry some weight. It's going to sting when you say things about people. And I get that.

That's it. But a lot of guys is that when they see me at events or they see me, they're like, oh, you hard, but you fair, man. You be calling that ish. I do. I don't got no bones in the fight.

I want to see Lamar do well. I want him to get a championship so the floodgates will open up. Yeah. Because when the floodgates open up, that pressure will be off of him. You can just play free. Just play football free. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes, he has that kind of ability. But this is what, this is last year, two turnovers. This year, two turnovers. His first playoff, his second playoff game against the Titans, three turnovers. How many turnovers did he have against Buffalo when they played in buffalo two years ago i know he had i think he only had one because i know he threw the pick into the end of the pick that got ran back for the touchdown no fumbles that's it we can't get it up

i thought we could uh put it in the uh We can't get it up? I thought we could put it in the... Dang, that shit moving fast. Yeah. Wait, we're good. Yeah. Wait, we good. Oh, hey, look, I can use my finger and make it stop. Okay. You ain't know that, huh?

Hey. Hey. Okay, okay, okay. I ain't know I can touch it. Well, I know I can touch the chat and make it stop, okay, okay. I didn't know I could touch it. Well, I know I can touch the chat and make it start, okay? Yeah. You just... All right, yeah, we're good now. Somebody said talk about Buffalo.

We did talk about Buffalo. We talked about Buffalo. Buffalo played. Look, Buffalo is that they played the kind of game. What do we always ask Josh Allen to do? Stop turning the ball over. What did Josh Allen do today? What did he do this year that he normally never does? He protected

the football. And that's all we've had. Nobody's ever said Josh Allen wasn't a great quarterback because he is, but he put himself and his team in harm's way by turning the ball over. When you turn the ball over in the postseason, you play double. You play double for turnovers.

Yeah. So. That's, that's, that's, but look. No, guys, Lamar is not a jag. Lamar is special. He just has to do a better, he just has to do a better job of taking care of the football in the, in the crucial moments in the playoffs,

because in the playoffs, every moment, every possession matters. Oh, Joe, every possession matters. And it should, it should,

because you're, you're going for the ultimate prize, Ocho. Mm-hmm. And because you got to think about it, Ocho, once you get to the playoffs, it ain't no you playing Jacksonville. You're playing the Raiders. These are the best.

You're going up against the other best. Yeah. That means you have to be at your best. Look who's on the other side against Lamar. Mm-hmm. That wasn't Aiden O'Connell. That was Josh Allen. Look who's on the other side against Lamar. That wasn't Aiden O'Connell. That was Josh Allen. Look who's on the other side of Jared Goff.

That was Jayden Daniels. Look who's on the other side of Matthew Stafford. That's Jalen Hurts. Who's on the other side of CJ Stroud? That's my homeboy. You see, that's what happens. It's a rarity, especially now, Ocho, because the game is so quarterback eccentric

that you're going to get quarterback discrepancy when one is way up here and the other is down there. You're just not going to get that now. That happened during the regular season only. Yes, yes, because you don't get to determine who you play. Hey, you're going to play the AFC West or the AFC East,

and they might have some crappy quarterbacks, and you go up against them. When you go to the afc west or the afc east and they might have some crappy quarterbacks and you go up against them when you go to the postseason i thought they did a great i thought they did a great job of uh of neutralizing lamar's legs i thought buffalo did an excellent job of that something the steelers couldn't do last week don't you remember yeah yeah they couldn't do that so he got he not only did they allow uh Derrick Henry to run run wild they allowed Lamar Jackson

to run wild yeah but he's gonna be he's just got like I said he just gotta get over that hump most quarterbacks

look everybody's not Lamar everybody is not Patrick mahomes you start one year you're in the afc championship game and next year you go win the super bowl you know i'm saying so you within your first three years on your first two years of starting you a super bowl champ you an afc championship game you lose to tom brady because you don't get a chance to touch the football but think about it they didn't change the rules then.

They only changed the rule when Mahomes boys started winning all this time. Because remember, Brady got the ball. They're like, oh, the defense get paid too. Okay, they do. So why would Mahomes get down the field and they don't get a chance to touch the football now if you don't score? Because before Ocho, Walkoff won it. You kick a field goal.

Now, oh, if you don't score, because before Ocho, Walkoff won it. You'll kick a field goal. Now, oh, if you don't score a touchdown, well, let everybody do it like college. Let everybody possess the ball at least once. Mm-hmm. Shoot. Let's shoot at the end, but we might be there all night. You might. Now, somebody, I mean, somebody got to make it.

Because I think now in college, you get a touchdown, you get two touchdowns, then everything is a two-point conversion from that point on. But, no, it's not about like or dislike. I try to be as fair as I possibly can. I watch the game intently about plays, about situation, because it comes down to situational football, little Joe, in situations who performs the best. That's what it is, about situations who performs the best. That's what it is,

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A.J. Brown went viral earlier for driving a basic Honda Accord. Brown has contracts worth over $150 million. Ocho, I assume you love this. I'm happy to drive my color. I love it a lot. Now, I'm sure AJ Brown has some nice stuff, but obviously because of the weather, because of the weather,

I'm not driving nothing nice in this weather. It's snowing. It's sliding. I'm sure there might have been ice on the road. because of the weather, I'm not driving nothing nice in this weather. It's snowing. It's sliding. I'm sure there might have been ice on the road. So what you do, you pull out, you pull out your slider.

Your slider. You pull out your slider. So I like it. The fact that he even has a slider to be able to use lets me know his mind is in the right place. Oh, AJ.

Yeah. And that's what you know look I get it because I never went snowing that day I'm bringing a SUV out you had a big truck I had my first

six years I had a four door blazer you know my brother had a four door with claw seats a four blazer? Chevy Blazer? Yeah, I had a Ford with closed seats. A Ford Blazer? Chevy. Oh, Chevy,

yeah, Chevy Blazer. Okay, okay, okay. Ford had the Bronco. Right. Yeah,

what you thought I was going to have? I didn't have no money like that. But, then I got a little money, I had a Range Rover and so that's what

I would drive. I always had a nice car, but I'm not driving my nice car in that snow. Oh, you had a Range Rover, and so that's what I would drive. I always had a nice car, but I'm not driving my nice car in that snow. Oh, you had a Range Rover? Yeah. I like the Lyman. The Lyman had them big trucks

that was lifted up. Yeah, they have F-150s and Super Duties. Yeah, man. Man, I think Tyne got a 650. Tyne got, for real? With the three-door? The three-door on the side?

Mm-hmm. Shaq had one of them great ones like that. Yeah. Yeah. I think they got a 700 now for it. But I'm like, man, I can't park that thing because I got individual stones. Where you going to park that? Nowhere.

They're taking up two parking spots, and you're not going in no parking garage with that big ass. Oh, no. Absolutely not. You can buy a convertible, take the whole top off that thing. I mean, I like it, but that ain't time. Time, country. Right, right. Yeah, but no, no, no.

Not, not, not, not. Oh, no. I'm good with the country. Guys, what are y'all talking about? Oh, I'm paying now to talk about Andrews. We just said, Ocho and I just said Mark Andrews, he's going to feel worse about this game than Lamar. No, I think some of the people commenting,

maybe they just joining and they weren't here for the beginning. Because we done covered every base you could cover on the game. Quarterbacks, additional situations, the fumble, the drop. We talked about it already. Ocho, we just talked about it. I said Mark Andrews is going to feel worse than Lamar because his drop, his fumble, and the two-point conversion drop. Yeah.

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not mistaken, every team has been to the NFC Championship game since Dallas has last been to the NFC Championship game. Every NFC team, let me sink in on you. Every team has been to the NFC Championship game. Every NFC team, let this sink in on you, every team has played in an NFC Championship game since the Cowboys

last went to the NFC Championship game. You got Dan Quinn with a rookie quarterback. Yeah. In the NFC Championship game. Kellen Moore is calling plays in the NFC Championship game. Hisellen Moore is calling plays in the NFC championship game.

His first year there. So who do you think the problem is in Dallas? I'm just curious. Chat, chat, who do you think the problem is in Dallas? Because everyone that leaves Dallas and goes somewhere else, they seem to have found

success. The coaches thrive. Or finding success. Thrive. I'm just asking. I'm curious what the chat would say. Oh, yeah. You know, Mike McCarthy got tired of Kellen Moore getting a little shine. Oh, you know, he wanted to run the ball.

He wanted to pass the ball too much. And lo and behold, he get Kellen Moore out there and he, he throws the ball more than what Kellen Moore did when Kellen Moore was calling the plays. Everybody know who Flaherty is. Yeah. I know who I would like to see be the Dallas coach. I know we've heard the rumblings about prime going there and I'm not sure if

that would work that situation because prime would be the one to take all the spotlight away from Jerry. He don't want that. Tremendously. I think Dak and Chad might not agree with me, but I think Dak and C.D. Lamb and the rest of the supporting cast offensively would do very well with Ben Johnson and his creativity with that offense. And being the fact that with Ben Johnson, they would score, be somewhere statistically in the top five when it comes to scoring, I don't know why I just like it. I just think someone like Ben Johnson being in Dallas,

not only being the head coach, but also controlling and doing the play calling as well. You can't, Ocho. Because he's like Al. Ran ahead to get Al to sheet. Al needed to know what he was running. We're not going to get into that. Ocho, in fact, seven Dallas assistant coaches from 22 or 23

will be participating in the NFC Championship game. Wait, how many? Seven. Damn. The last championship game appearance for the Dallas Cowboys was 1995. The Bears,

every team has been in the NFCc championship game except the cowboys in the 2000s even the bears the giants won the super bowl the seahawks carolina arizona falcons minnesota saints packers tampa r the Commanders, and the Eagles. Hey. Do you think Jerry knows this or he doesn't pay it no mind? Oh, Joe. If you could do whatever you wanted to do and make $300 million,

or you could do it the right way, and make 300 million or you could do it the right way, make 300 million, but you're not going to get no credit. Jerry wants credit. That's what Jerry wants. That ain't supposed to be the face. That ain't working.

It ain't working. How could you not? It's not working. Didn't that man tell you he bought this team? He bought this occupation? He told you that, Ocho. What more do you want the man to tell you? When you buy an occupation,

the point of buying an occupation is for one, so you can succeed and win at it. Not just buy it to tear it down. Or not just buy it and be losing. I want to work on my own car and it won't ever crank. Instead of me taking it to a

auto technician. Instead of me taking it to an auto mechanic. You know, we got to be politically correct. We can't say mechanic anymore. We got to say auto technician. You can't say mechanic? Why would that mean? No, because, you know, people think, oh, let's give

them the proper credit. They're auto technicians. Okay, okay. Auto technicians. I like that. Shady tree-ass mechanic. But in that situation, man, it's... I mean, look at this. With a rookie quarterback

Dan Quinn stayed longer than what he probably should because he thought he was going to get the Dallas job he was going to be willing to forego give up himself we saw Dan Quinn get to the Atlanta Falcons to the Super Bowl have a 28

3 lead so he can coach the Atlanta Falcons to the Super Bowl have a 28-3 lead so he can coach. Yeah. He can coach. But nobody. Ben Johnson is not going to be Ben Johnson in Dallas. He needs to go somewhere where he's going to have control.

It looks like all indication is pointing to the Raiders. I wouldn't be surprised within the next two to three days, he's going to the Raiders. How are we pointing to the Raiders. I wouldn't be surprised within the next two to three days. He's going to the Raiders. Oh, how are we going to the Raiders? We don't got no quarterback. I'm talking about,

he doesn't want to, he listen, a lot of times guys don't want to be in a situation with Detroit. A guy that gave him his start. I don't really want to be in that situation. Dan Quinn said, I don't care. Dan Quinn said,

I'm tired of this. You told me you were going to make something happen for your boy. Right. And you ain don't care. Dan Quinn said, I'm tired of this. You told me you were going to make something happen for your boy and you ain't do it. So guess what? I'm going to go ahead and beat your ass. Ocho, there's a really disturbing video that came out yesterday. A real estate developer shared footage of him being profiled by a neighbor at a home he built in an affluent neighborhood. In order for us to do this video justice, we have to show the video, guys. So we ask you to bear with us because in order to do it justice and give you the proper context, we must show the video in its entirety.

Now, the video is like three minutes long. We're asking you to please bear with us so we can have this conversation and do it justice and provide context. Let's take a look at the video, Joe. Do you live here? Yeah. You do? Papa!

I don't believe that. What? I don't believe that. So what are you doing here? We're going. We're going. Hey! Does someone come here? That was my wife.

She got somebody chased around here. Who chased her? Um, somebody in a silver truck. They just left us. They were on the corner. It was in the street. And so I come up. So I'm like, pretend that I'm coming home. And so I pull up and I start walking to your back gate.

And he stops here and he goes, are you looking for someone? I said, nope. And then he sat here. And I was like, I need to get in. Well, that's my husband said nope and then he sat here and i was like i need to get in well that's my husband that's why he lives here yeah he lives here so he came in he said there's a lady screaming and i'm like that's she got all worried that she's so scared how did he scare you though i just seen her in the driveway and I was like, are you looking for somebody? Cause I was pulling up. And I saw someone walking in our driveway too.

And I'm like, why is someone walking in our driveway? Oh, I'm sorry. All right. Sorry. She says that someone was following her. So you were walking from there. You came this way, didn't you? No, I came down this street right here.

And I was riding slow cause I'm looking at our Christmas lights. You just have to understand my point of view. Being by myself for two days, I just saw a car coming. And so I was like, oh, it scared me. And so I just pulled up here. And I kept thinking, this could be his house. But you didn't say, this is my home. You just said, are you looking?

And I was like. I did. When you was on the porch, you asked me, do I live here? I said, yeah. And you said, no, you don't. And you said, I don't and you said I don't think you do obviously you could tell that I was really like I'm pulling in my it's like I'm pulling in my house like this is not a this neighborhood is probably one of the best neighborhoods in Ohio I don't you don't have to worry about stuff like that i'm very sorry i really hope you're not upset with me

come on baby you told me that i didn't you said you didn't think i live here you standing on somebody else's porch. You don't live there. And because the man just said, Hey, I live here. Now, Ocho, you hear what she said?

Yeah. You have to understand my point of view. Yeah. We're always asked to understand their point of view. All the while, never seeing our point of view. You don't get to stand on my porch and ask me a question about my D house what are you doing on my front doorstep you see what she did and she went running screaming now call the cops now he gets blasted oh this man was chasing me see they had to release the video because she was lying

yeah they left me they she left them no choice because they tried to handle it they handled it way way better than I would have ever handled it oh yeah obviously listen depending on who it is in that influent neighborhood you know you see you weren't supposed to be there

affluent doesn't rhyme with black affluent is only supposed to mean a certain group need to look like her. She's like, oh, you have to understand, I'm somebody along with two kids. Clearly you're not that concerned, because your ass outside in the dark with you and your two kids. So clearly you're not concerned.

But now all of a sudden you have to see my point of view of seeing one with two kids. Right, and I'm confused. If you're a neighbor, if you've been in the neighborhood already, you haven't seen your neighbors? You've never seen them before? I'm just curious. I mean... I don't know. But stuff like this happens all the

time, though. This is nothing. This could have ended real bad, Ocho. it was caught on camera this time yes that thank you see that's my point what if it wasn't caught on camera you know everybody's gonna believe her side of the story absolutely what if she called the police and the police come and ask this man to identify yourself and he's like i don't want to identify myself this is my house i'm home yeah you see and, I don't want to identify myself. This is my house. I'm home, yeah. You see? And now she done went on,

she done disabled all of her social media and she done did an IG live talking about people are calling me racist. You don't understand. We understand. We absolutely, 1,000% understand what you did. Instead of trying to say, look, I was wrong.

Right. You don't get to go on somebody else's front porch. Oh, Joe and ask him. And if they say, do you live here? He says, yes.

You said you didn't believe it. You don't live there. So who cares if he lived there? Your ass don't live there. And then, hold on. Did she not walk away? Left the stroller, screaming help?

Yes! Running down the street, screaming, help! Help! Help what? He should have been screaming. It's sad. Even during this time,

nothing has changed how do you get to play victim Ocho when you initiated this whole thing you see that's and see that's what happens a lot of time on social media but this is real life people will say whatever they want to say to you women will say to oh oh Shannon you and I don't let it go Ocho you know I told my new, you, and I don't let it go. Oh, so, you know, I told my New Year's resolution. I ain't gonna let it bother me. People still say things. Oh, you thick tongue.

You can't talk. Now, see, when I talk about you, oh, does ESPN know you talk about women like this? Oh, now ESPN didn't even know I talk about women like this. When you lock your hot ass on my timeline

and try to get one off and I click, clack, clack, clack. You know, I keep that thing. I keep that thing on me, Ocho. I got a thousand jokes. I'm on number 12. Yeah. You got it.

You got it. You got it. You got to tweet like I do, man. It's fun. And you got to understand. I let it go. No, you can't let it go, man. So listen, let me tell you something.

If somebody walk up and slap you, you going to turn another cheek? Ocho, I pray, you know, I pray every night that God just leave me be. Now, with that dang guy, let me do what I just asked you. If somebody walk up and slap you on the left side of your cheek, are you going to turn the right side

so he can slap that one too? Yeah, I'm going to have to move on. I'm just going to say, Lord. Oh, you got to control your Twitter the way i do huh you have people that are positive and i engage with them in a positive manner you have people that talk to me negatively and i engage with them in a negative manner it keeps a happy balance on the timeline everything can't be positive it can't i just don't respond that's not the way the app works so if somebody accuses you i'm telling you regardless of what your new year's resolution may be you have to talk trash back we

love that the people love that it keeps it keeps the timeline balanced if everything is always happy happy happy happy it ain't no it's all good. Listen, negativity and talking trash and engaging with people, whether negative or positive, it builds character. But it does. But you know what, Ocho? We don't ever get them in the next state. We don't ever get to stand on somebody's porch and ask them, you live here? I don't believe you. You notice that never happens to any of us we never we never get on camera being at

the wrong place and saying oh is this your house that's all you got to understand you think i care you actually think i care who house it is i'm minding my business they throw their hand up i throw my hand up and keep going but you on this man's place on this man's front porch he said he lived there you say you don't believe him you leave your stroller you take off running screaming yelling help help help you don't know who could have heard that came out shooting and then what i'm sorry. Oh, oh, yeah. And it, it,

it could have gone bad depending on what type of cop showed up. That's my point. Oh, Joe, that's my only point. Yeah. How many times have we seen a situation like this happen because of a lie? Emmett Till died behind of a lie.

Mm hmm. Or people being nosy. Yes. Which young dude that was running? Remember? He was jogging. Oh, yeah. That guy in Brunswick.

Yeah, he was jogging. Yeah. Come on, now. We don't get that benefit. Because how many times? There have been a lot of times that we call the cops and we end up getting arrested. We call the cops. Oh, yeah. I just I just I just hated it. My heart broke for this family because it could have.

And see people quickly say, oh, but it didn't. No, it's not that it didn't. It's the fact that it happened to begin with. Yeah. We're in 2025 and stuff like this is still happening and the funny thing about it regardless of it being 2025 it could be it could be 2050 it's still going to always go on you know we just we just have to do a better job at trying to disengage in those situations why i gotta disengage at my house i mean i know what you mean i'm just saying you know just enjoy just think about it you pull up to your house you pull up to your mansion and somebody's standing on your front porch

uh you live here you're like yeah i don't believe you yeah yeah bitch how you got through my gate oh okay my bad. I'm dead. Okay, my bad. I was doing good tonight. That was my first one. I'm sorry. Yes!

Bro! My first thing is like, do you live here? Why? I don't know if I live there, but I know you don't. Now, again, why are you on that porch? Why are you on my porch? Yes! Man, please.

She was doing too much. She did entirely too much. It was so unnecessary. And then the fact that she's yelling and screaming like somebody was chasing her. She left this couple no choice but to release that video because she had told. And the family got tired of her lies upon lies upon lies. And it says, you know what? It's all captured on RingCam.

It's everything that transpired is captured. Now she's trying to go back. You got to understand my point of view. So a mother with two kids. If you're so afraid, why is your ass out that time of night with two kids? If you're that afraid,

clearly you're not that afraid. You're clearly not that afraid. And yeah, she went and got her husband. You see, and then, that's when I had to whip him. You see, that's the thing,

I had to whip him. You going to put hands on him, mom? Get on my property. Get on my property, you going to get whipped. And I'm going to call my wife, you whip her too.

Nah, you ain't finna play in my face like that. Oh, man. I'm like, oh, you ain't got your husband. What you ain't got him for? The best thing y'all can do, y'all out of, hey, is to turn around and go on back home.

This ain't going to end well for either one of y'all. You got to hit it. You got to hit it. You got to hit it with that Bernie Mac. You look like you're trying to do something to me. Mm-mm. Hey, it won't be in a fluid neighborhood when I get through with him.

No, don't play like that. Don't do people like that. When you wrong, don't exacerbate a situation by lying. You was wrong. And you know, they play victim quick now. That's it. You effed up.

And then you want to play, want to play victim quick. No. So hopefully everything gets resolved. Uh, the couple, I am sorry that you had to go through this that's why you know you move in a neighborhood and you think you're safe and everything's gonna be okay and then it doesn't matter this happens this in my neighborhood on my porch my kids my family got to witness this

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Ocho, now it's time for our last segment of the evening. It's time for Q&A. Use the bathroom. I'm going to drink water. Architect Nice TV said, it's sad that fans today don't understand the difference between criticism and hate. There's no gray area nowadays. They call it either you're a D rider or a hater.

Continue to be great guys. They do. They do. But it has a lot to do. Like I said, I'm not saying that fans shouldn't love their team, love their players, but no player is beyond reproach.

He had no players beyond criticism. Y'all go check my record. Go check my record. Peyton got it. Brady got it. Rogers got it. Mahomes have got it. Romo got it.

Dax got it. Baker Mayfield's got it. Cam Newton has got it. Matt Ryan has got it. Brett Favre got it Dax got it Baker Mayfield's got it Cam Newton's got it Matt Ryan has got it Brett Favre got it I got it Bro No

No No professional athlete Has ever been born That's above criticism Doesn't work like that If you play good I'm gonna say you played good But if play good, I'm going to say you play good. But if you played bad, I've got to say that, too.

And it's OK. Oh, Joe, it is OK. There's no such thing as perfection all the time. As much as we strive to be as perfect as possible, it's impossible to reach. You'll lie. To say you'd never heard me criticize Patrick Mahomes, that's just disingenuous.

Whoa, you did it this year multiple times. I did it last year too. I said the reason why they didn't lose a game last year because he's turning the ball over too much. All over, yeah. Instead of, before y'all, come with some facts. All you gotta do

is come with facts. But, facts ruin an argument, Ocho. But there's, and he was saying, Ocho, people don't understand the difference between criticism and hate.

Right. If you play in a sport, I think, and my job is to critique and analyze I'm supposed to offer that I ain't some guy in the street that you doing something I couldn't do uh hello y'all better check

what's behind me y'all don't see my basement but y'all better check them charges with them patches on the wall I ain't jealous of that I got no problem giving people y'all don't see my basement, but y'all better check them jerseys with them patches on the wall. I ain't jealous of that. I got no problem giving people credit. Y'all have heard me say I've heaped effusive praise on Kelsey and Gronk

and Gates and Gonzo. I'm cool with what I was able to do. No hate, no envy. Quarterbacks, I have a great appreciation because I know how hard it is to play that position. But when you were a little kid and they say, all the quarterbacks in this line,

well, you took your ass and lined up. The quarterback line. You know what comes along with that. Liming on me. D-liming on me. Wide receivers over there. Running back. DBs, linebackers. Lineman on me. D-lineman on me. Wide receivers over there. Running back. DBs, linebackers.

You chose the line. Criticism comes along with that. But guess what else would come along with that? Big paydays. Huge. Big jobs. What position did Tony Romo play? Quarterback.

What position did Troy Eggman play? Quarterback. What position did Tony Romo play? Quarterback. What position did Troy Eggman play? Quarterback. What position did Tom Brady play? He was a quarterback. One guy makes $37.5 million. Another guy makes $17.5 million. Another guy makes $19 million. Robert Lee said, Shannon, you're wasting your time.

Our people are conditioned to be victims. Constructive criticism, no matter how kind, they take it as a slight. They do. They do, because it's easy. Yeah. Let me tell you, you know what it is, don't you? It's easier to blame someone else than take responsibility for one's act. Yeah.

How many times don't you heard somebody say, man, coach ain't like me. What about you short or late to practice? What about you not coming to practice? What about messing up assignments in practice? In practice. So what? So you play no role.

It's hard for me to believe that a coach, everything is predicated on them winning and losing a guy that could help them win. I refuse to be a professional victim. It is what it is. I know what it is going into it. I'm able to prepare for it.

I'm going to be so good, you ain't got no choice but to give me the job. Now, I can sit back here and blame somebody else for it, don't you? Man, I ain't got that job, man. They ain't even like me.

Andrew Warren said best friends tell you what you need to hear not what you want not what you want to hear they do I've been very fortunate to have those kind of people

in my life Ocho like I said I got two best friends Bucket and Burns hey Bucket quick to say homeboy I love you but you wrong in this situation

yeah and that's the problem in today's era too you got to think about it. Whoever is the golden goose, most of the time the people around

them are yes men. Are people that don't have the best interest in their heart. Look at some of the incidents that

have happened in the NFL in the offseason. The offseason has come up for a lot of people this year. They're going to

be people that get in trouble. They're going to be people that get in in trouble on. They're going to be people that get in trouble that have entourages around them that won't tell them, you know, what you're getting ready to do.

It ain't a good idea. You know what? You've been drinking. You don't need to drive. You know what? I'm going to drive you home. Matter of fact, we're going to leave the car here.

Give me your key. We're going to take an Uber. Yeah. You'll see. People that don't have their best interest because you know

you know if you if you challenge the person who's making the money that mean he might cut your water off so everything is a yes yep

yes not telling them what to do and what's in their best interest yeah bro I don't really think you should do that but

you know I love you but this ain't it mm-hmm bruh i don't really think you should do that bruh you know i love you but this ain't it it's different it's different and that's the thing ocho you're right you're right i i just for me it's just uh i need to know that's your job Your job sometimes is to protect me from me. Hmm. Oh, that's a hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

Hold on. That's a good one, man. I got to use that. I got to use that. In my next argument, I can use that. I can,

no, but that's why, but, but that's why Ocho, that's why you have like in certain situations my partner's supposed to protect me even if I wanna

even if I wanna wallow she's like hey boy you ain't finna mess up this money man that's a good line I could use like I could

and I'm gonna deliver it too with some yes you're not gonna but I was having an argument she's like Shanna a good line I could use. Like, I'm going to deliver it too. Yes. You know, you're not going to, but I was having an argument. She's like, Shannon,

let that go. Right. Let, for what? You willing to risk all that over something petty? Right. No.

That's what, I done brought you in my life. You know, hoping at some point with what I envision after explaining my long term goals to you. I see you and visualize you as an asset to me. Yes. And I'm here to be able to protect me from myself. But this is what you want to do yeah huh don't right there right there on that spot right there when i get that delivery i'm gonna let a teardrop out the right eye because if a tear drops out the right eye

that let them know you're serious yeah hey boy i'm ready i got this i got that setup i got it right here in my nose oh man. Chris Guadalupe said, uh-oh, Cho. Buffalo took out both of Unc's team. So he can't say the word Buffalo, Buffalo Wings, Buffalo Sauce, Buffalo Stabby.

Hey, Buffalo Soldiers. Hold on. You can't. You talking about you wanted Buffalo Nichols. You can't even say Buffalo Nichols no more. Hey, Chris, who side you on, man? Yeah, Buffalo got

both of my squads, man. They out of there. Oh, probably. Damn. Damn. Bobby Blair said, what Josh Allen is doing is not,

is not really, with no really neat weapons on offense, it's so impressive. Allen elevates everyone around him, puts the team on his back. That's why he's my MVP.

Hmm. Look, considering what they lost, like I said, I thought Lamar's season was too great not to be rewarded with an MVP. But Ocho,

if people, if they were to give him the MVP, you can't be, I mean, you lose Gabe Davis, you lose, you lose Stefan Diggs,

Milano missed a lot of the season, White's gone, Poirier's gone, Hyde is gone, Von Miller was suspended a little bit um who else got uh kincaid got nicked your tight end it's he's been he's been spectacular we asked him josh we need you to do what you normally do minus the turnovers and he sliced it

he just i mean he did that in a season. Another guy had, I mean, there have been a lot of great seasons. You look at Rodgers won the MVP, but Patrick Mahomes was like 38-6. But Rodgers was 44-7, is what it is. Only, look, if Josh were to go in and win the Super Bowl, he would probably be the MVP. I don't think he'd be too disappointed. I think that'll take some of the sting out of it.

Gelato said, tell LeBar that mvp to to josh the mvp is a regular season award and you know and we have this discussion every year um give the mvp uh wait till the playoffs is over they They've never done that. Ever. And they're not changing it now. Yes. No time soon, later on in the future. Yes.

JPS World. From a fellow SSU alum, I love this show. Will Lamar career go down as a player who beats in the regular season but can't win the big one uh I think if he doesn't win the big one I think it'll be disappointing you can't say that it's uh it's a failure a guy that's won three MVPs uh because remember they wanted him to be a running back to say change the wide receiver he went three mvps i do think it'll be i think it'll be disappointing if he has all those mvps and no super bowl on his

mantle that's just me personally some people might say hey but i think i i think you know for him to be as great as he is and at the end of the day not have that ultimate prize because that's why you play he's gonna have to have money. He's going to have more money than he ever imagined. He's probably going to have three, four hundred million dollars in his bank account when his career is over. But I think the thing that he's going to want more if he doesn't get

one is that Super Bowl. Tim Lee say, I know some people are going to blame it all on Andrews, but Lamar two turnovers and the best responsibility for the loss. Lamar playoffs woes continue. Better quarterback one, simple as that. He said it. He knows he can't turn the ball over.

He turned the ball over, and they got points out of it. It's unfortunate because normally when the quarterback doesn't play well, they don't win. It's really not that complicated. So, and that's what I mean. So, Jared Goff threw for over 300 yards. So what role did those turnovers play

in Detroit losing? Did they play any role? Of course they did. We can't say because the quarterback turned the ball over ocho we like said quarterbacks and now try to minimize the turnovers in said game it doesn't work like that but this is also too um when it comes to having a team collectively yes when quarterback doesn't play well or lamar jackson in this case, tonight, turns the ball over twice. That's when you need the teammates. To pick you up.

You need defense to get some turnovers from you. Not only defense, but you need the offensive players to make some of those plays, to make up and counter those turnovers. You're going to have mistakes in the game. We just talked about it. You want to be as perfect as possible and play a perfect game but they're going to be they're going to be ups and downs they're going to be momentum still going to be swing shifts and there were swing shifts in the game but there are moments in the game

where okay lamar jackson to turn the ball over you know what mark andrews right now i need you i need you to help me help me for the mistakes I made early in the game. That was his chance. The game of football is all about moments, huh? Yes. It's all about moments. Yeah. If Mark could have come down with that two-point conversion,

it would have been very interesting to see how this thing plays out from that point on, Ocho. Yeah. We'll never know. We'll never know, Ocho. But it would have been very interesting to see this thing in 2027-27 and now you put it back on your defense. It says, okay, get us this ball

back or let's go to overtime and we'll see what happens from there. I would have loved to see that. If I'm Mark Andrews, I'm keeping my helmet on in the locker room. Them boys might lay hands on it. No, he played well. Look, I've been there. It's tough.

It's tough when you have drops or you have a fumble or you have a play that potentially costs your team a game. It's tough. It's tough. All your teammates are going to say all the right things. Man, it's not on you. It's a team game. There were other plays out there that could have been made.

It's good that your teammates got your back, but deep down inside, it's killing you. It's killing you. Trust Lab. Ravens need to go all in on Lamar. They didn't have a number one receiver on the field at most important time that tells me uh uh Ed DeCosta needs to build a better roster bro his number one receiver got hurt what do you think he's gonna go get another number one uh you think

Mike Evans was available uh I mean was C.D. Lamb available I'm trying to figure out what you thought he was going to get at this later in the season there are no number ones available come playoff time if they're not on the roster ain't nobody

hey bro let me borrow your number one receiver you ain't in the playoffs it's not lawnmowers you need your grass cut you go borrow neighbors

it don't work like that don't you yeah it don't work like that, Ocho. Yeah, it don't. See, again, Ocho, this man said Eric DaCosta did not build a roster around Lamar. The roster is built. Ocho, come on, see? You see what I'm saying, Ocho?

He went and got him Derrick Henry. You got two tight ends that are top 10. Zay Flowers is the first drafted wide receiver by the Ravens to make the Pro Bowl. Rashad Bateman played well. Come on, guys. You don't need no number one receiver. Because a number one receiver in that offense will be frustrated and mad than a motherfucker. If you understand

the Ravens offense and what they do. They run the ball. But Ocho, even though they run the ball, Lamar threw for 41 touchdowns. Only one other quarterback threw for that many touchdowns.

And they didn't even make the playoff. That's Joe Burrow. Yeah. And you talking about the roster isn't built around Lamar? This is what I'm talking about, Ocho. See, Ocho, this is what I'm talking about.

When Lamar wins, it's Lamar, Lamar, Lamar. When Lamar loses, it's the roster isn't good. No. So the roster is not good. So the roster is not good. So this man has won three MVPs with crappy rosters.

Look how many Pro Bowlers they had. They had more Pro Bowlers and more All-Pro than any other team. Nine, if I'm not mistaken, right? Nine players, or am I wrong? Yes. Yeah. They have a phenomenal roster.

Roquan Smith is the first team all pro. Marlon Humphrey is the first team all pro. Lamar is the first team all pro. Doug Henry is the second team all pro. Pat Ricard is the first team all pro to run it to fullback. You got four pro Bowlers on offense. One, two, three, four.

Oh, your center, I think, is an All-Pro, a Pro Bowl player. Lamar's in the Pro Bowl. Derek Henry's in the Pro Bowl. Ricard's in the Pro Bowl. The center's in the Pro Bowl. And Zay Flowers, that's five guys on offense in the Pro Bowl. Ricard's in the Pro Bowl. The center's in the Pro Bowl. And Zay Flowers. That's five guys on offense in the Pro Bowl. Marlon Humphrey's in the Pro Bowl.

Rayquan Smith is in the Pro Bowl. You got two D linemen. Mattie Biquet and I forget the other guy's name. 99. 90 or 99. 90 is in the Pro Bowl. So you got nine guys in the Pro Bowl. And the roster's not good enough, huh?

Your two tight ends combined for more touchdown catches than any other tight end group in the NFL. But the roster's not good enough, huh? They didn't give... I mean, how many yards did Josh Allen pass for tonight? The secondary, I thought, how many yards did, how many yards did Josh Allen pass for tonight? The secondary I thought would be what would let them down.

I thought they did a pretty good job. I'm going to make Josh Allen pass for 200 yards. Josh Allen passed for 127. Did they have, how many yards did James Cook rush for? I mean, that last run, notwithstanding the last run,

kind of put the nail in the coffin, but up until that, how many yards did they rushed for? I mean, that last run notwithstanding, the last run kind of put the nail in the coffin. But up until that, how many yards did they rush for? They had 67 total rush yards? Cook had 67 rush yards. What was the other guy that got that last run that was what, 40 yards?

I think it was Davis, huh? Yeah. But how many rush yards did the Ravens have? The Ravens ran the ball for 176 yards. Lamar had like 250 passing. Come on, guys. They lost. Let's not make excuses for why they lost.

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They choke. Then it's excuses like Lamar, no help, or fire Greg Roman. Who's the scapegoat this year? I don't know. I mean, Todd Munkken might get a job. Is Erwin Lee so? Yes. All I know, he's been there two years, and he got a guy that's MVP.

But that don't matter. It's all Lamar. Because Greg Roman got him that, got him to this, and it's never enough. We got to stop trying to find somebody to put it on. Lamar has to do a better job of taking care of the football. Guys, when they get in position to make plays, they got to make those plays. It's as simple as that.

This is not a roster issue. This is not a defense. I mean, defense, like, hold on, bro. If we don't turn the ball over, that's 10 points right there. So we don't really only want to give up 17. You put the ball in harm's way. We put the ball in harm's way. We put the ball in harm's way as an offense. If I told you Josh Allen

was only going to throw 427 yards and they weren't going to run the air out of the football, you're like, oh, Baltimore's going to win this game. Yeah. Baltimore's going to win this game.

If you look at the stats, right, you take away the scoreline and show it to somebody who didn't watch the game, who do you think they're going to say won the game? What was Baltimore on third down? Baltimore was damn near like 60% on third down. Okay, they were 70%. I lied.

That's even better. 70% on third down. You know what? 98% of the time, that's a game you win. Yeah. Ocho, I think Kansas City was the best third down conversion team at 49%.

The Ravens was 70% tonight. Crazy. Well said. What do the Ravens need to do with Todd Munkin? He knows the formula for winning, but yet he puts the ball in the air. Ocho and I, we talked about that. Ocho and I, I thought they got away from the run too soon,

especially in the first half. They come out in the second half and realize who they are. They're the Baltimore Ravens. They're the Bullies of Baltimore, and they go right down the field. I think they might have threwrew the ball once Maybe Maybe twice On that drive And they go right down the field Would I have been disappointed

If they'd have had 40 plus rushes Nope 50 Nope Cause hell I think They almost had 50 rushes Last week against

Pittsburgh Sean Smith said should the Ravens try to get T Higgins or Tyreek in the offseason you can get T Higgins you can get Tyreek guys if you turn the ball over in the playoff you gonna get Tyreek guys if you turn the ball over in the playoff you gonna get beat

no matter who you got it's really that simple guys football look yeah they called got all these intricate calls and they got to play that's so long now there's an X slide and 50 this and all that but at the end of the day

can you take care of you can you protect your quarterback, and can you protect the football? That's it. That's all that matters. I don't think people understand it comes down to just that. Just that, the playoffs. To give your team the best chance to win, you've got to protect the ball. You can have Jesus of Nazareth as receiver.

If you turn the ball over twice with the fumble, you're losing the game. Look at the teams that lost this weekend. What did all of them do except the Texans? Detroit, what did they do? Turn the ball over. The Rams, what did they do? Turn the ball over. Baltimore, what did they do?

Turn the ball over. Baltimore, what did they do? Turn the ball over. Now, the Texans didn't turn the ball over, but what did the Texans allow? They allowed the quarterback to get sacked eight times. Eight times. Kemper Norwood Jr., my question is, if the Bills show up against Kansas City when it matters because if they do, I'll channel my inner Shannon Sharp.

It's going to be a great game. Very good game. Look, I tell you what, I think Buffalo and Buffalo fans don't want Patrick Mahomes to have the ball

with a chance to beat them late in the ballgame. They don't want Patrick Mahomes to have the ball with a chance to beat them late in the ballgame. They don't want that. They want this game to be put away. Early. Because he's been there, he's done that. And this game's going to come down to turnovers. Who protects the ball?

Both teams are cold weather teams. Both teams are built to come down to turnovers. Who protects the ball? Both teams are cold-weather teams. Both teams are built to deal with the cold weather. We know it gets cold in Kansas City. It was cold last week in Kansas City. We know it gets cold in Buffalo, so ain't nobody got no advantage. No one. The advantage is who's going to protect the football better? Same thing.

It ain't nothing new. The formula hadn't changed. You take care of the ball, you increase your chance of winning. You turn the ball lower, you decrease your chance of winning. It's really that simple, Ocho. Actually, oh, the Bucs led it. Oh, they said the Bucs led the league in third down conversion to 51%. The Chiefs at second at 48.5.

The Ravens was second at 48.5. The Ravens was second at 48.2. And the Ravens was 70% tonight. If you'll lead the league every year in third down conversion, 50% is great. If you pick up 50% in third down, because now you stay on the field

and give yourself an opportunity to keep the ball and move the ball close to get the ball to end zone score points, touchdown, and field goal. Ray was 7 of 10. What would they have been if they don't turn the ball over, Ocho? In points.

Scooty Puff said, for every turnover this year, set it with his chance. Now he's all soft when Lamar has two turnovers in an individual playoff game. Bro, that's my point. When you say that, what did you say I did?

Burrow did what? Turnovers. They lost. You see? Ta-da! When you turn the ball over, no matter how great you play, you decrease your team chances of winning. That's what I wanted you to say, Scooty Puff. That's what I wanted you to say, Scooty Puff.

That's it. See, Ocho? Mm-hmm. Sometimes you let them make your point for you. See, he thought he tried to trap me. But he made my point. Yeah, he made the point turnovers

no matter how great you play Sheldon Pope have you and Ray Buchanan ever came cool after the war words before the Super Bowl man I didn't see Ray after that I haven't seen Ray in, that was in what, 98? And I ain't seen Ray in damn near 30 years.

Really? No. I wonder where Ray at, man. Ray was good, bro. Pretty boy, Ray. For one year. Christopher Tillman said, I'm a Raiders fan. I'm a Raiders fan.

But I can still see you catching the ball across the middle and bumping your head on the goal post when you were tired on that run comes down to play Ocho you don't turn the ball over that was the difference with us in 2000 outstanding defense take care of the football

as long as we don't put our defense on the short field oh there ain't nobody driving the ball you ain't driving no 80, 90 yards on that defense no 70 yards on that defense on them? man

no absolutely not that wasn't happening no Tsunami who's the best quarterback in the NFC? Hell, after this run, it might be Jane Daniels. Yeah.

If the Lions hadn't lost, would you have golf up there as the best? Who made the Pro Bowl for the NFC? Golf? Oh, Jane Daniels? Who else? Oh, Sam Donald. Okay.

I forgot about Sam. No. Me personally, I don't think Jerry Goff is better than Matthew Stafford. That's my personal opinion. But it's hard for me. It's hard for me. It's just hard for me it's hard for me it's just hard for me um to say after one season because i want to see what happens sophomore season because you know we were ready to not see jay stroud and we see what happened this year right so let's give her some time there's

enough time for jay daniels his first year what's up heard let's not it some time. There's enough time for Jaden Daniels. His first year was superb. Let's not take away from that. Shock wave truth. After all the play to be made was not made by Mark. He could have made up for the fumble. See you in New Orleans. Got my tickets. You're right.

If you turn the ball over like they did the first half, they come back and win this game, you're like, hey, you played through those. They overcame adversity, didn't succumb to it, and they won. And that's what it comes down to, Ocho. Sometimes you have to overcome your own mistakes.

Those self-inflicted wounds, you're right. But I know the minute, the minute that Mark Andrews bobbled that ball, Ocho was gone. Yeah, he was coming out. You're not bobbling a ball in those kind of conditions

and catching it. All the glove, you know, the new gloves they got now, all that don't do, it does nothing in the cold weather for you at all. Nope.

Hold on. When they come in, do they use kicking balls on the two-point come in do they use do they use kicking balls on the two point play or do they use regular balls cause you know the kicking ball is different than a regular

than a regular that they play with on every dial the kicking balls aren't touched that's a slick it's slick now

the regular ball cause that ball looked like it had a little sheen on it. Yeah, a little shine on it. Yeah, I'm not making excuses because Lamar hit him. He should have caught the ball. But I don't know, Chad, y'all know the difference?

Y'all know? What? Actually, look it up. Yeah. Yeah. actually looking it up actually gonna find that out Vanessa Smith said today is my 60th birthday can you guys wish me

a happy birthday we sure can Vanessa happy 60th birthday hopefully you did something fun today you had to get out went out we did brunch family friends loved one I don't know if you're in a relationship

maybe a significant other took you to get a nice meal and you got an opportunity to just I see you shooting a shot okay hey no he don't shoot no shot hey Vanessa you shooting a shot send him a DM no can I get a birthday shout out you shot? Vanessa, you shooting a shot? Send him a DM.

No. Kyle Payne said, can I get a birthday shout out from Uncle Nocho? I'm a Navy veteran. Kyle, congratulations, bro. Happy birthday. Thank you for your service.

Yes. Not only to you, but all the other men and women around the world that protect us and allow us to live free, rest comfortably

because we have people like you on that wall. Thank you for your service, Kyle Payne. Tony, BNR, don't forget it's MLK Day. It's the day of service. Get out there and do something in the community. Get out there and do something in the community. Okay. I'll go out there and try to find me a straggler there.

How would you talk about a community Man let me stop Yes I know It's MLK day It's a very important day for us Wait MLK Anybody in the chat Anybody in the chat The parade tomorrow

What parade Miami Yeah Anybody in the chat? Anybody in the chat? The parade tomorrow? What parade? In Miami. Martin Luther King Jr. Parade. Well, I fly home. My flight at five in the morning. Well, yeah, that's okay. I'm going to hit the parade.

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