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Oh, Joe, the question is, has Lamar Jackson won enough to secure the MVP?
DraftKings Sportsbook still have Josh Allen as a minus 230 underdog.
But he's the favorite about his 230.
So that means he's the favorite.
See what I mean?
As Lamar is a plus 185.
Is this after the game or before the game?
After.
See what I mean?
See, that's why I say the vote must already be in.
Somebody knows something.
Well, no.
Here's the thing.
Your vote don't have to be in until...
Normally, I think our vote had to be in by Monday, by noon.
Right.
Because, you know, you got to vote for all the awards.
You got to vote for all pro.
Because you get a vote, you vote for all the the all pro team, offense, defense, kicker,
coach of the year, rookie of the year, you know,
offensive rookie of the year, defensive rookie of the year,
MVP, comeback player of the year, so forth and so on.
So all that.
So you obviously, and it might be after the game, after the last game.
But I'm thinking,'m thinking okay i'm thinking
it was noon monday okay like i said it's been so long ago hell i hadn't worked at the uh uh cbs
and man and so long i mean i think last year was like the broncos winning the super bowl so that
was 2013 so it's been like it's been 12 years so uh that was a long, long time ago.
But for me, I'm just saying,
and I think Josh Ellis had a phenomenal season,
but 41 touchdowns with less than five interceptions.
That's impressive.
Because Aaron Rodgers,
and we know how gifted Aaron Rodgers is at the floor of the football.
I mean, you think about all the great quarterbacks.
Only two have ever done this. Aaron Rodgers is at the floor of the football. I mean, you think about all the great quarterbacks. Only two have ever done this.
Aaron Rodgers and Lamar Jackson.
900 rush yards with 4,000 passing yards.
No quarterback has ever done that.
He did it.
The second highest quarterback rating
in NFL history.
He got it.
That's crazy. He got a lot of firsts or seconds. He got it. That's crazy.
He got a lot of firsts or seconds.
He's had a lot, like I said.
I'm glad I ain't a voter now.
I'm glad I'm not a voter now.
I'm glad I'm not a voter now.
I'm not.
However, on the week that he was named the Pro Bowl,
Zay Flowers, he's the first Ravens wide receiver
to ever be named to the Pro Bowl.
What?
Drafted.
What you call him, but he was the first drafted Ravens
wide receiver to the Pro Bowl.
Because I think, what's the guy that was at Tennessee?
Derrick Mason. Derrick Mason. I think Derrick Mason went to the Pro Bowl. Because I think, what's the guy that was at Tennessee? Derrick Mason.
Derrick Mason.
I think Derrick Mason
went to the Pro Bowl.
I would be insane.
You know what it's like?
Kansas City.
Patrick Mahomes
was the first
Chiefs quarterback drafted
to win a playoff game.
Okay.
They've had other guys
win playoff games,
but they weren't drafted.
Zay Flowers was drafted. So you go back they weren't drafted. Safe Flyers were drafted.
So you go back and you look at all the players
that were drafted.
It's the first one that ever made the
Pro Bowl that actually wasn't.
Yeah, because
Thriller, Michael Jackson,
he was from the Browns.
He came over, rested, so he got
killed in a motorcycle,
a traffic accident on a motorcycle.
But, man, I hope Zay is okay.
Injured right knee early in the second quarter and did not return.
So hopefully they were able to get him some treatment.
Yeah, I'm biased.
I want Lamar to win.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, okay. I mean, wow, sue me. Hello. yeah I'm biased I want Lamar to win yeah okay yeah okay
I mean wow
sue me
hello
hello
you finna show him
that helmet huh
that was me
uh
the Super Bowl helmet
is at the house
so yeah I'm biased
I don't know what you want me to tell you.
Okay, sue me.
I don't think that's going to fit now.
I might get low.
And then y'all might have to cut it off my head.
But I hope he's okay.
Hopefully they're able to.
Yeah, okay. Hopefully they're able to, yeah, okay, yeah.
So what?
Man, Ocho.
Yo.
DT Michael Pierce
spoke about his interception.
Let's take a listen
to what he had to say.
That was so funny, boy.
I want to try for six.
So there's a long history
of turning big guy
interceptions and fumbles
and all that stuff
into memes.
So at the risk of ruining a career play like that for myself,
it's time to go home.
So bless with all the gas.
You're good.
Hey.
Ocho, he had a blocker.
He could have got it.
He would have made it, Ocho.
You think so?
Yeah, because the guy had already – and listen, wasn't nobody back there.
So now all of a sudden he had a blocker that had already, listen, wasn't nobody back there. So now all of a sudden, he had a blocker
that had already picked up the quarterback.
Now, he got a head start
on the offensive lineman.
Hey, you know how funny
that would have been?
If he had...
355.
Listen, 355,
he had a convoy of people.
You know how funny
he would have been?
Three what?
That 355,
that's the weight
that he weighed in
at training camp.
He was probably about 370 there. Hey, I think he... Hey, you know, it's the weight that he weighed in at training camp. He was probably about 370 there.
Hey, you know, it's hard to sweat on someone to get cold and bald.
You know, it's hard to sweat.
Hey, he should have took that, man.
He should have took that.
I remember Vince Wilfork had one one time.
Yeah, he tried.
It was so funny, man.
Those don't come often.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Listen, you dropped him past coverage
and got a... And he picked it.
Ocho, he didn't bobble it.
Ocho, he didn't bobble it.
Right in the belly.
He got it. Man, listen, it won't happen
again. You got to take that, man.
You'll never get that opportunity again, Ocho.
You'll never. Now, Ocho,
he might get one
that get popped up in there
and he catch it
but they're gonna be on him
but to get one clean like that
and you got it on the dead run
yeah
he took a knee
and say ah
hey
he did that thing
like that's the end of the game
Ocho
like
like I preserved the big
hey
if you notice Ocho
he didn't take his ass to the end zone either
he went to the sideline
hey you were tired
you were tired
I don't believe it
hey congratulations big guy
that was also bad
Michael Pierce with the interception
he might have been the heaviest guy.
Hold on. Maybe that Tennessee
Titan. He picked off one.
Jeffrey Simmons? No.
The guy from Texas. Didn't he pick
off an interception and take it to the house?
I think he had to recognize the heaviest guy
to ever return an interception. I think he was like
340.
That got to be a dope feeling
man
that's it for
the big boys
what's the
guy
what's the
guy
they drafted
from Texas
the big D lineman I think he got a pick six What's the guy that they drafted from Texas?
The big D lineman.
I think he got a pick six.
Leonard Williams got a pick six.
Remember, Leonard Williams picked Aaron Rodgers when he was 80.
Because I think he was the heaviest with the longest.
Yeah, sweat.
Did he get a pick six?
Yeah. I thought he got a pick six? Yeah.
I thought he got a pick six against somebody.
Ocho, the Browns have not guaranteed themselves the NFL top three draft pick.
Miles Garrett said after the game, there will be something coming.
Is a Miles Garrett trade imminent?
Yeah, probably. I think, you know miles garrett has done everything
he can for the browns organization he's been a standout player and in the community i think it
would be do them do them their due just and do right by him and allow him to go to a contender
and uh and contribute somewhere else i'm i'm assuming maybe draft day, he gets traded somewhere,
and it'll pay dividends
as far as draft picks are concerned
for the Browns.
They'll be compensated very well
for somebody like Myles Garrett,
and he will go somewhere
where he can attend,
you know, for Lombardi.
Yeah.
Hey,
because it might be a little chump
i believe the browns are more than one player away yeah you might as well like try to build
this thing back up yes sir get to get them first round draft picks that miles garrett will bring
you probably two ones and a two maybe two ones a two a two and a four. So I get, hey, we'll swap draft positions this year.
As a matter of fact, no, I'm going to get your first round pick this year.
And I'm going to get him next year.
But I'm also going to get your two this year along with your three
or your four next year.
Ocho, I think they're just so much away as far as building this thing up.
Because look, you got Lamar.
Lamar is 26.
Joe Burrow is 27, 20.
So you got to deal with those guys for the next decade.
Yeah.
The next decade.
Now, we don't know what Pittsburgh is going to do.
Maybe they bring Russ back.
Maybe they go.
They don't strike me as a team that'll be invested in a Sam Darnold
to spend that kind of money on a show.
They don't really like to spend heavily in free agency.
They like to invest in their own.
Right.
You know, if you notice them,
they don't spend a whole lot of money in free agency.
Their mom and pop shop, everybody knows what they are.
But Miles Garrett will fetch a pretty penny.
Oh, yeah.
And if I'm the Browns,
I'm listening.
Yeah.
I'm going to try to get him out of,
I'm going to try
to get him out of the AFC,
Ocho.
But if somebody in the AFC
offered me the best package,
well, he going to the AFC.
Yeah.
Because I want the best package.
Yeah, you ain't got no choice.
Now, I'm not trading him
in the division.
So Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh,
don't even call.
I'm not trading him
in the division now.
I ain't going to be that damn fool.
Pittsburgh.
Can you imagine Miles Garrett
and TJ Wildman?
Hell no.
Man, please.
No, I can't.
But don't have to worry about it because it ain't going to happen
it's not going to happen
but the Baltimore
Ravens look good Lamar
16-32
2-17 two touchdowns
Derrick Henry 20 for buck 38
two touchdowns the Ravens
35 rushing tips, 220 yards.
That's what they do.
437 total yards on the day.
Bateman had five catches, 76 yards on the touchdown.
Mark Andrews, four catches, 54 yards on the touchdown.
Likely was three of 38.
Derrick Henry even chipped in.
He had two catches, 23 yards.
But the Ravens look good.
What, one sack, two sacks,
three sacks. I think they had like three sacks
and a pick six. Well, they had two
sacks and a pick six, so you have to be
pleased with that.
Like I said, Cleveland just
they need a major overhaul.
They got a ways to go.
Listen, they got a ways to go
on the offensive side of the ball.
Yeah.
Well, you're going to need to have a ways to go
because Miles Gary's going to put a,
you know, you're about to lose 14 sacks.
Yeah.
Uh,
Ocho,
post went viral on Twitter
showing Lamar, Allen, Mahomes, or Burrow.
Which one you getting rid of?
Ooh.
Ooh-wee.
That's a good one, boy.
Mahomes ain't going nowhere.
So I want y'all to debate between Lamar, Josh Allen, and Joe Burrow.
Listen, I like all them boys, obviously.
You got to get rid of one, Ocho.
I'm keeping Burrow, Mahomes, and Lamar.
And I love Josh Allen.
I love Josh Allen.
Great quarterback.
But if there's one that's got to go,
it's going to be Josh.
Okay.
I like that.
Lamar definitely ain't going nowhere.
You know, Mahomes is that boy.
That's my quarterback.
Yeah, rightfully so.
Ocho, the Chiefs were iced in
today. Trouble getting on the tarmac
tonight before the Bronco game.
The plane got stuck on the tarmac for
four hours. Will this disrupt
them? Were you
ever stranded on the tarmac absolutely not but i don't
mind that i don't care if you got to have me on the tarmac for 10 hours de-ice my plane please
de-ice my plane because you know what happens if you don't de-ice the plane and you take off anyway
man i don't know i don't know none of them problems De-ice my plane so everything is working how it should be in flight.
I don't care how long I'm on the tarmac.
You don't play like that.
There's a reason that they had
those de-ice machines to begin with.
They got that for a reason, man.
Man.
I remember in 97, Ocho,
we got, we had that,
if y'all look it up,
we had that snowstorm that hit Denver that day, that night,
and bled into that day.
And I think we probably got about five to six feet of snow.
Right.
Over the course of about 24 to 36 hours.
And we got stuck.
And we were going to Buffalo.
And, man, I don't know what time.
I don't think we even ended up getting out until like
maybe 6 o'clock. So it's
already 8 o'clock at night. Yeah.
We didn't get in until probably about
1, 2?
We had to go there. We put something on
them though. We didn't put the, now TD ran wild.
TD ran wild. TD had
like 205. We just ran the ball
because it was was first of all
you know if you go to
Buffalo in December
it's gonna be effed up weather
I don't think
you know what Ocho
now that I think about it
Ocho
I've never gone to Buffalo
and it had to be nice weather
it's like
it's like snow
yeah
it's like rain
it's like sleet
it's something
maybe in 94
it was decent.
It was windy, but it wasn't precipitation.
But you go to Buffalo in late November, December, you kiss the baby.
Oh, yeah.
You kiss the baby.
It's so close to Canada, you're going to get what, hey.
Just we talk.
But look, for the most part, the the guys a lot of the guys like my home
it's not disrupting him because he's not playing no kelsey a lot of the key contributors though
they're not gonna play tomorrow right but a lot of these guys that don't be playing they just
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a matter of fact they can leave tomorrow morning.
Yeah.
I don't think this doesn't affect players one bit.
I mean, some people might say it doesn't throw off anything.
The game is still going to be played.
This is, I call it, your downtime.
This is your unwind time to get yourself focused and locked in.
The extra time that you are on there, I'm sure everybody has their iPads you do your homework do your homework man we gambling yeah we playing talk we playing we playing in between man that's hey first of all you know that's time that's time mocho hey
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Everything is for money.
There's nothing.
It ain't no for fun.
You playing for money.
Yeah.
So that's because that's our competitive nature.
We're just competitive like that.
For fun?
Yeah.
But I can't remember the last time I did something for fun right college played football that's the last thing i did for fun anything now
hey man i played for hey let's just shoot some hoop right put something what you want to put
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Vrabel watch.
Vrabel changes profile pick to him playing for Pats.
What does that mean?
I don't know.
It's very subliminal,
especially with some of the reports coming out
that Kraft might be trying to bring Vabrel in
after only one year of having Gerard Mayo there.
I'm not sure if Kraft would actually make a change that fast without giving Gerard Mayo the opportune time to change that franchise around
and probably try to get them to prominence where they once were with Bill and Tom Brady.
Drake May has played well in spurts, similar to that of Aaron Rodgers, but he showed flashes. He showed flashes of what he can do.
And I think another year or maybe two
under the helm
of Gerard Mayo, I think the
Patriots are going to be okay. I'm not sure
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and dominating
that division once again, but they're
not that far off, as bad as they were
this year. They have some... Who's not that far off. As bad as they were this year, they have some...
Who's not that far off, Ocho?
Oh, the Patriots.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're not that far off.
I think they'll be all right,
but I think it's too early.
It's too early.
Now, you can give
Gerard Mayo a chance.
Just give him a chance.
One year is not enough time.
It's not,
but they also know
that if they don't hire Brable,
they're not going to get
an opportunity to
because he's going to get hired in this cycle yeah yeah and so and that's and that's that's the
thing the old show that's so tough uh and i like mr craft i got like like of all the owners i
probably know him the best uh well yeah i know him the best i was gonna say uh prior to mr bowling
passing and him being around it was mr b right B. But I probably know him or been around him
the most. Him and Mr. Blank,
Arthur Blank.
They've always been great to me. Always.
And I like him.
And he strikes me as a
very, very fair guy.
Because
Coach Belichick, I think, was 5-11
in his first year. And he gave him a second year
and he would have a losing record
until that fateful hit Mo Lewis put on Drew Bledsoe.
Yeah.
And it changed the fate of the entire NFL.
It changed the fate of an organization, how we viewed that organization,
how we viewed Coach Belichick, and Mr. Kraft,
one of the better owners in all of pro sports.
Yeah.
That's a tough decision.
It is.
Yeah.
Ain't no telling.
Ain't no telling what message
Bray will send him.
You know, especially doing that.
You don't really see anything like that
from a head coach or from a coach in general.
You know, you see stuff like that from players.
You're right.
But I think the thing is, hey, maybe he knows something that we don't.
Yeah.
I think the thing is he's in a very tough spot
because Mr. Kraft hand-selected Gerard Mayo.
Yes, sir.
He's been under Coach Belichick tutelage.
He played for Coach Belichick. He's been under Coach Belichick tutelage. He played for Coach Belichick.
He coached under Coach Belichick.
And obviously, he had things that Mr. Craft liked.
Right.
Or he wouldn't have made him his head coach.
But I do think that he has a very fond liking to Mike Rabel.
Mike is proving himself.
He's taken to the Titans to the playoffs a couple of times,
went to the AFC Championship game.
They ended up losing to Kansas City.
But that's a tough one, Ocho.
That's a really tough call.
It's hard to pull the plug after one season,
but I know Mr. Craft
doesn't want to lose
on this opportunity
that he believed that
Mike Brable is a
very good coach
and he would hate to lose
on the opportunity
but sometimes
you gotta
you gotta lose
in order to win
oh yeah
we've all lost
like man
we didn't see it at the time
Ocho
we made decisions
like man
I hate to do this but I I'm going to do it.
And they're like, damn, glad I made that decision.
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Ocho, St. Juan Brock controls the Giants in a new sleep ad.
The Giants running back trolls John Maher in a sleep aid commercial.
Referenced to his viral moment, hard knocks when he said he'd have a tough time sleeping if Saquon joined the Eagles.
Man, forget that. I don't want to get nothing by no ad. I don't want to get nothing about no ad i don't get nothing about no commercial
you want to troll the giants you want to get the giants back for what they did to you for basically
telling you you know we don't value you we don't think you are worth the money that you deserve
it's him going out there telling goddamn sirianni, you know what? I want to play.
I want to play.
I want to go out here and give it to the Giants and break this record,
and then you can take me out of the game.
Then I'll sit down.
That would be the best ad.
That would be the best commercial.
That would be the best way to stick it to John Maher and whoever else made that goddamn decision to let him go to the Eagles.
How do you pronounce
the guy's name?
Joe Sean?
Joe Sean?
Sean?
Joe Shine.
Showing.
Oh.
Yeah, him.
Close enough.
John's GM.
Oh.
But here's the thing.
The problem that I got, Ocho,
is that they played in the man face you knew
you were gonna sign the man back you know we'd love to have you we would i we what we think we
owe you the opportunity to go out there and let you test the market one thing about it where you
can't believe nothing they say listen owners and gm general managers, ain't no different than politicians.
Oh, they're going to sell you a dream now.
They're going to tell you what you want to hear.
But when it comes time to fulfill those promises, man, stop.
Man, man, stop.
That's the thing, though, Joe. and um in the process of you shopping they telling you thing that new team hey it's almost like hey that new person in your ear telling you
i'm gonna cook and babe i'm gonna take you hey we're going to jamaica we're going to cancun i'm huh Ocho that thing is not clouded clay hey
that new
yeah
oh
real
it sounds good
we love
and see Philly
we love that
see the thing is Ocho
when
somebody wants you
yes sir
and they go
and they show you
Philly showed
Saquon
that they wanted him
see the Giants we want you but we want you because you see how they did it they wanted him. See, the Giants, we
want you, but we want you, because
you see how they did it. They put him on a franchise
tag and all that old foolishness.
Now, think about it. You lost your
quarterback that couldn't play
dead on the Western, and
you lost your running back because you
was being cheap.
Hold on. Daniel Jones, he couldn't
play dead in a what?
A Western.
So now look at you.
Hey, that's a good one.
I like that one.
That's a good one.
Ocho, I mean,
and then,
first of all,
normally, like,
when you're doing stuff like that,
Ocho, you don't put that on tape.
You don't put that on camera.
Right.
Because you make yourself look bad. Yeah. Everybody saw that y'all played in that man face. Yeah.'t put that on camera. Right. Because you make yourself look bad.
Yeah.
Everybody saw that y'all played in that man face.
Yeah.
Everybody saw that what y'all was doing.
Mm-hmm.
And then you try to, and then you try to like,
oh, you know,
we just,
you know,
we just,
we owe it to you
because you've been so good.
Well, if I've been that good,
go on and break bread.
Yeah.
Break bread then. If that's what you feel that way about me and break bread. Yeah. Break bread then. If that's what
you feel that way about me, break bread.
Y'all play it. Unfortunately. I agree with you,
Ocho. We talked about it, Ocho,
last week.
Yeah. I want him to get that record
bad.
And he would have got it.
It wouldn't have took that long. It wouldn't have took that long.
It wouldn't have took that long.
I don't know how long it would have took,
but I'd have been in the damn game
until I got it.
Yeah.
He would have got it before halftime.
He would have got it before halftime.
The Cowboys will start
Trey Lance versus the Commanders.
Lance will try to showcase for the NFL that he's worth taking a chance on in the offseason.
Could this be the final dance for Trey Lance?
I think, yeah, I wouldn't call it the final dance.
He's a young quarterback.
If anything, he can still be a backup anywhere.
Right now, he can't play dead in a horror movie.
Hey, Ocho, all you got to do
is do this.
That's all you got to do. They're going to put some little ketchup
on you, Ocho. That's it.
Oh, I'll get him
at a chance, man.
Listen, there are far off worst
quarterbacks that have backup roles and sometimes
third string roles in the
NFL. Trey Lance is a good quarterback
if in the right situation.
But what I think he can do, what I think he can do is he can put up a good
performance where he signs back with the Cowboys.
He can be the number two behind Dak Prescott.
Jerry really likes Cooper Rush.
What else does Jerry, you know what?
We're going to have to get Jerry's eye checked. We're going to have to get Jerry's eye checked
we're going to have to get
Jerry's eye checked
maybe
is there a problem
is there a problem
with having two black quarterbacks
is that the issue
because the better quarterback
out of the two
out of Cooper Rush
and Trey Lance
to me
I would lean towards
Trey Lance
if anything
and that's no disrespect
to Cooper Rush
I'm just understanding
what Trey Lance could do I'm not that's no disrespect to Cooper Rush. I'm just understanding what Trey Lance could do.
I'm not saying he's Dak Prescott, but, you know, there are similarities.
You know, I think he's a better runner, better dual threat.
He can throw the ball.
He's efficient.
You know, put him in the right circumstance.
Right now, Ocho, he is a dual threat.
He's terrible and awful.
That's the dual threat he was talking about right there.
I don't know if you noticed it, Ocho, but
think about it.
Mr. Irrelevant beat him out for the job.
Yeah. Yeah. The last
player selected in the draft, Ocho,
beat hit the number three,
the team that he saved.
Yeah. Rockford, he saved
Kyle
and Lynch. Yeah.
The job, yeah. Yeah. Job.
Yeah,
he did.
He did.
It was almost like,
but it should have
gave you should have
give you something
because if you think
about it,
think about what
happened in Washington.
They drafted RG three
to trade up,
get RG three.
And they also took
Kirk Cousins.
Yeah.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
Mike wanted
Mike like Cousins from the jump. junk yeah thought that let's just stand pat
when first of all with salary cap hell we just got docked because we dumped all that money in
the uncapped year they took they took money from us right so let's stay because if you take if we
salary cap hell for two years we got no draft pick for two years how do we get, if we in salary cap held for two years, we got no draft pick for two years,
how do we get better if we can't sign pre-agency?
We can't draft at the top of the draft.
How do we get better, Ocho?
See, you can't. But Dan Snyder,
you know, the guy that, hey, the guy that
named at the bottom of the check,
he's, hey, I want this guy.
And the Rams just kept
jacking the price up.
And they got it.
They got it.
Yeah.
But I hope Trey Lance can come out there and show him something.
Yeah.
You're right.
He's probably what?
How old is Trey Lance?
25?
Young.
If he's that.
Might be 24.
Yeah, he's young.
That's why I say he's going to be around. He's 24.
Yeah.
See, he's going to be around for a while.
He's going to be around for a while.
Be around what?
Coaching?
Nah, NFL.
Come on, don't do him like that.
Nah, he's 20, he's 24.
Ocho, they ain't going to give you that many more opportunities, Ocho.
Dude, how many more opportunities has Nathan Peterman got?
Now, if Peter, hey, hey, hey.
First of all, Peterman is a noun.
I mean, he a bird. Oh, you out there, Peterman is a noun I mean he a bird oh you out there Peterman
that mean you playing terrible
is he in the league
I don't know if he in the league
he's a backup somewhere
he's a backup somewhere
Nathan Peterman
yeah
ah man that joke
poor to Peterman
I don't know what you're saying
hey man that joke
poor to Peterman today
hey
listen
if he can continue to be a backup and have a role
and have a job in this NFL, Trey Lance can as well.
And I think he will have a good –
Oh, Ocho, he with the Falcons.
See what I mean?
Lord have mercy.
See what I mean?
He get an opportunity.
There's no reason why Trey Lance won't be on the roster.
There's no reason why he can't go out here and have a good last game
and put on a good showing where Jerry Jones
He on the practice squad, Ocho. He on the practice squad.
I know what you mean. Oh, that, listen,
but he's there. That's a check.
That's a check.
Yeah. It ain't much.
It ain't much, you know, compared to other
NFL players, but it's a check.
Yeah, he in the NFL. I mean, hey,
when they ask you what you do, I'm in the NFL.
Okay. Yeah, I'm with the Falcons.
I don't got to go in there.
I don't got to say all what I do.
I'm with the Falcons, damn it.
That's it.
That's all that matters.
I don't got to tell you I'm on the practice squad.
I'm on the team.
Hey, when you were in college, you said, hey, yeah, I play.
What position you play?
I play such and such.
Don't ask me if I play.
I'm on the team, damn it.
So you ask it to you.
So you get personal. You know what I'm saying? I say I play for the Tigers. I play I'm on the team damn it so you ask it to you so you get personal you know what I'm saying
I say I play for the Tigers I play
running back
hold on
you know what I'm saying
go ahead
we gotta drink too much water
um
yeah that's a
well this is Trey Lance's opportunity
to show that if he can, that he
has something, um, because look, obviously he showed something and the draft process.
Um, I know it was only one year.
Uh, he got really hurt by that, uh, that COVID season.
Um, he played at, uh, uh, football subdivision, which is a lower which is a lower uh the level right below division
or 1a and then he only had one year starting and then kobe came and then he sat out that year
and so he really didn't that's that's that's not a whole lot of of play time especially uh not
playing at a at a very high level and so i think that hurt him a lot but he had to show enough
to that were team i mean the 49ers weren hurt him a lot, but he had to show enough to that
team. I mean, the 49ers weren't the
only team that thought he had a high draft
grade on it. So
I hope he goes out there and shows something.
Damn. Because
there ain't but so many more
opportunities that you can get
before they're like, you know what?
The man just ain't got it
and then
but this is his opportunity
there are a lot of
other guys that gonna be
out there playing he playing for
a job but he not the only one on the roster
that's playing for a job
this is your opportunity to show
hey this tape goes out.
Everybody that's playing,
they're going to be back with the Cowboys.
Oh, yeah.
I'm trying to show, hey,
I'm trying to show somebody I can play.
But he played, you know,
he played at the same university
that Carson Wentz went to.
But I think Wentz was like
a two or three year starter.
What?
Good luck, Trey.
Andy, your bid is whack.
Ocho.
Seahawks rookie DT, Byron Murphy II,
took his teammates out for dinner
and was pranked with a fake dinner bill of $155,000.
Oh, funny, boy.
His reaction was priceless.
His actual dinner bill wasn $155,000. Oh, funny, boy. His reaction was priceless.
His actual dinner bill wasn't much better.
It was $38,000.
Hey, that's good.
Ocho, did y'all ever prank the rooks?
Listen, I had, I mean,
when I was a veteran,
I didn't make the rookies
do rookie night.
I didn't.
Now, when I was a rookie
I'll never forget Peter Ward
Darnay Scott, Ron Dugans
Danny Farmer was there at the time
TJ
now I had to pay for rookie
dinner that night, I can't remember what
the price was, but it was
it was a little hefty
but $38,000, thinking about that
that ain't much, that ain't much. When you look
at some of the linemen, when the linemen go
out, man,
I've seen
some of those receipts
when them boys go out.
Boy, it be expensive.
Well, you start ordering that King
Louis, you order that King Louis
at $500, $1,000 a shot.
They do it on purpose. You get like 15 shots of that.
And then they're going to order that big one.
They're going to order a bottle of wine
that end up costing like 10 grand.
Yes.
You get the big one.
You get the lobster.
You know, they bring the lobster around on the wagon.
The lobster this big.
I know y'all have seen it.
They bring the lobster around in the wagon.
Right.
He think he's going for a ride.
Little do you know.
He buy. the wagon. Right. He think he going for a ride. Little do you know.
Hey,
they don't be playing, boy.
They don't be playing. Look,
Portis and Ashley Lee, their rookie night out,
we hit them for about $22,000.
See, that ain't bad.
You know, me, I had to have a, I had a limo, you know,
cause I ain't want nobody cause they going to go other places.
I had a relationship.
Y'all not finna get me broken up in the middle of the season.
I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't buy libertations. I know my
I know my
limitations.
I ain't fooling with y'all.
Same thing I tell my
homeboys when they come.
You know,
hey,
Sean,
come on,
let's go.
No,
bro.
No,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no.
You're not going to
mess with my home
and leave.
Right,
right.
No,
absolutely not.
I give some of my
tea.
Hey,
hey,
bro,
you going out?
Yeah,
man.
Hey,
my homeboys in town. Man, Sean, you know we got him. Hey, bro, you going out? Yeah, man. Hey, my homeboys in town.
Man, Sharp, you know we got them.
Hey.
There you go.
You good.
Yeah.
But other than that, Ocho.
Yeah.
Now, listen, if you're a rookie and you're not only a rookie and you're a first round pick, man, listen.
Oh, we're Ricky Carson girls.
Oh, they coming to get you.
Because I got a limo.
I got a limo because I got a limo by myself.
They had to send a limo for me because I wasn't going
out with them.
Ocho, I wasn't going out
with them afterwards. So I needed a limo
that was going to take me back. Right.
No, no, no, no. I'm going
home. Right. But you know, back
there, I think you had to get a limo for like
five, six hours, seven hours.
It was probably like $100 an hour. It wasn't
no sweat like that. But the only thing I made sure of, six hours, seven hours. It was probably like $100 an hour. It wasn't no sweat like that.
But the only thing I made sure about you,
I wouldn't let you get stuff to take home.
I don't care if you're mom.
I don't care if you're dad.
I don't care if anything.
You're not getting stuff.
No, no, no.
I'm not going to.
No, no, no.
We're not going to do that.
Freaking us.
Us.
Us.
Us.
Us.
So that was like that was uh like 22 000 i mean you know we you know the guys order king
lloyd they order you know like a 15th uh uh patroos bottle of you know uh wine or rough
child whatever it was they get a couple of bottles that i said bro y'all
but you know they gotta get they to get the most expensive steak.
They got to get the lobster.
They got to get everything.
So it didn't cost them.
I mean, $22,000 wasn't that much.
But, oh, yeah, you're going to pay.
Oh, yeah.
If somebody said, oh, I wouldn't pay.
Oh, yeah, you would.
Because we're going to take it out your check.
You're going to pay.
You're going to pay.
Oh, it's coming.
We're not going to allow you
a tradition that's been handed
down the first round draft pick.
A lot
of times, we let them
y'all pull together. A lot of times, the first
round, they had to pay dinner for themselves.
I remember they hit my brother. I think they hit my brother for
like 12, 13 grand.
But the thing
is, is that you got to do that.
If you're a rookie, you got to bring donuts.
You got to bring breakfast sandwiches.
You got to bring food to the plane.
I did it.
You don't know how many times I'm hustling and bustling.
I'm dressed like Jethro Bodine, tie hanging all up.
Man, about to fall off my ass.
Man, don't laugh on Joe cause I gotta go
man he want Kentucky fried chicken
he want Popeyes he want
this I gotta go all the prided place man
yeah
hell nah that's why I was like I gotta
make the team yeah all this they got me
doing I'm gonna have me somebody do this
issue
oh man hell nah
but uh we did all that uh you know rookie singing oh joe i went big i went big into the hazing we
make rookies saying uh you know we might steal their car and drive that off or something like
that but all that i ain't cutting nobody here uh because ain't nobody cutting my hair because it really been a bit of a problem.
You cut my hair, it's going to be a problem.
So we're not going to do that.
So we didn't cut anybody hair.
You know, at Baltimore, we take the rookies to the goal posts.
That was a hard knock.
Put them in the cold tub.
Put them in the cold tub.
Yeah, we tape them up and put them in the cold tub.
Stuff like that, Ocho.
But mainly, we make them sing, not your album,
but I don't want to hear about your fight song. I don't want to hear
about your album model. You got to sing some
Luther Vandross, Barry White, I don't
care.
Whenever you know the words to.
Other than your damn fight song.
So,
but yeah, but that was,
yeah, that was
back in the day. That was back in, yeah, we used to, that was, yeah, that was back in the day.
That was back in, yeah, we used to steal people's cars and stuff like that.
It's funny because the past, the time is like grown men,
but we behave like eight, seven and eight year old.
Yeah.
Look, he is.
Yeah.
Oh, there was some good.
I'm on Ross.
Say Brown.
Thanks.
The NFL should make a rule
change let's take a listen to the change
he recommends
the rule should be changed
obviously if you're in a division
you should obviously make a playoff spot
but having a 14 win team
having to go on the road is kind of crazy
but I guess I don't make the rule
so
no we're not going to change the rules because y'all might lose the game
and be a 14-win team and go on the road.
That ain't how we do it.
Right.
It's been like that, Ocho.
So, well, listen, they're going to Minnesota, right?
They play Minnesota tomorrow.
No, Minnesota comes to them.
Oh, Minnesota comes to them?
Yes.
They already beat Minnesota on the walk.
They kicked the field goal.
I remember.
Yeah.
But what is he complaining about then
because they might lose
be 14-0 and they have to start the season on the road
I know yeah listen that's nothing
you should even worry about
especially that goddamn high powered offense
there should be nothing you worry about whether you're playing home
whether you're playing home or away
I understand the advantage that players
that teams have playing at home
but listen the way y'all rocking offensively right now,
I wouldn't care if we was playing in the Sahara Desert.
As long as Dan Campbell is my coach and he got that wheelbarrow with him,
he carrying him every time he's coaching, I'm not tripping.
I am not tripping.
Yeah, he, uh, so I don't agree. I think you and I both, I don't agree
um
I think you and I both
we don't agree
because the rules are the rules
we're not going to change the rules
because we have an anomaly
right
how many times
the 14 win team
has had to start on the road
mm-hmm
so
so one time it happened
in the
in the
100 plus year history
right
now we're going to make a rule
so what
nah
we're not finna do that
it was a great suggestion
yeah but
but the team
you know
and how y'all are playing
on the road
and at home
it really don't matter
it don't matter
so no what he's saying though Ocho
is that
if we have a better record
than a division winner
we should be at home
and they should have to go
on the road okay i see what you say they want a division that's the reward you get for winning
the division right that you get to play at least one game at home yeah i see what you're saying
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Ocho? Yeah?
A husband brought Christmas gifts for his ex's
kid using his
current wife's credit card.
You gotta listen to this, Ocho. Check and listen
to this. Take a look at this.
Let me get this correct. You're not to listen to this, Ocho. Check and listen to this. Take a look at this. Let me get this correct.
You're not obligated to buy another woman
who you used to date her children's toys.
You're not obligated to do that.
What makes you feel like you have a right to do that
and take my credit card?
I have nothing to do with that.
Tina, it's our credit card. Just because it's your credit card, we are married. So Tina, it's our credit card.
Just because it's your credit card, we are married.
So that means it's our credit card.
So you're going to be disrespectful like that and spend my money, our money, on some other kids?
They ain't on some other kids, Tina.
They once was in my life.
Once upon a time, that was my ex and her children.
They don't know their father.
Their father is locked up in the car.
So I bought them kids.
Well, I know one thing.
I know one thing. You better run me
back my money. You better put that money.
You better cut out. You don't even sound right.
I don't want to hear no more of this. Talk about this.
No, no, no, no. You better put my money.
Don't walk away from me when I'm trying to have a
conversation with you. Make sure you
put my money back on my car.
Okay.
I like the situation. I understand.
I understand where he's coming from.
It's an ex I used to date.
The kids, situation,
been around him for a very long time,
understanding the circumstance that they're in.
Mom might not be in a position
to be able to get the kids the gifts.
It's the holidays.
You know what?
I'm going to take it upon myself
to get gifts for the kids because I know
they might not be able to get them because there's nobody in your life to do so because their child,
I mean, their father is incarcerated. Now, as the woman, I understand where she's coming from as
well. Man, what you doing? You ain't dating her no more. Now, he didn't get anything for the woman.
He got it for the kids. Now that, you know, when it comes to kids, I don't play about the kids.
So I have a good understanding of why he did it. And I also see her side where it for the kids. Now that, when it comes to kids, I don't play about the kids. So I have a good understanding
of why he did it.
And I also see her side,
where it's coming from.
They have a joint account.
I think what he should have done is,
he should have let her know first.
I say, baby, listen.
There you go.
Why did he let her know?
A ton of people say
she should have let her know.
Why did he let her know?
He didn't let her know
because he know if he told her,
she was going to say,
uh-uh,
you ain't doing that
because you're not with that,
you're not with the lady no more
and those kids
aren't your responsibility.
But the woman
also not understanding
the,
I hate,
not the word chemistry,
the relationship
I had
having those kids
in my life.
You care so much about them,
why don't you stay?
Huh?
Why don't you stay
in those kids' lives? If the daddy's not there, they don't know that dad, you care about them much about them, why don't you stay? Huh? Why don't you stay in those kids' lives?
If the daddy's not there,
they don't know that dad,
you care about them kids so much,
why don't you stay?
Ooh,
ooh,
you ain't had to say it like that
with me and the mama.
We ain't work out.
We ain't work out.
But them kids wasn't enough
to keep you there?
I thought you stayed for the kids.
Mm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm talking about that specific situation.
Hey, listen, I understand where she's coming from.
But listen, you know how you're getting that conversation?
That he didn't even argue back.
I'm just saying if I was in his shoes, baby, listen, I know I spend the money.
I know you don't like it.
What I'm going to do, I'm going to put the money back on your car.
Matter of fact, I'm going to double what I spent and put it back on the car.
Yeah, that's a conversation you have spent and put it back on the car. Yeah.
That's a conversation you have before.
That's a conversation you have.
If you're in a marriage
and you know,
first of all,
you know,
that's going to cause
money out of us,
money out of sight,
cause a fight.
Because now she don't know
where that money went.
Now you told her,
babe,
what about $500?
What about $500 went?
Well,
you know,
my ex,
I don't really know
a whole lot of people that's going to be okay.
Now they're married or they're in a relationship with their partner,
be it man or woman buying gifts for the ex's kid.
Whoa,
I could be wrong.
Then it might be some,
huh?
Were they his,
they weren't his kids though.
They weren't his kids.
Yeah.
See,
okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
No,
no,
no,
not his kids.
I say some women would be
understanding if the kids were yours yeah oh you ain't got no choice but to be a damn understanding
they're my kids i'm buying gifts right it's to understand with that one now but i do understand
right a man or female i don't want people to say well if if she'd have done it it would have been
it'd have been a problem too right Right. Because I would have understood the husband being upset that you buying your ex's kids gift.
I get that.
Right.
But in that situation, when it's something like that, when you know it could tear the fabric, the trust, the foundation of your relationship, you got to run that.
Hey, you got to run that buyer.
And you know what's funny?
He understood it's all about knowing your woman.
It's all about knowing who you're dating. it's all about knowing who you're married to
he already understood he already knew the assignment and knowing that this is something
that i actually can't even tell her because i know she's not going to agree with it which is
why he did it without letting her know oh joe but when you put it on the credit card and she
see the bill like what the hell who who buying who buying stuff at torres r us who buying who buying
so what you saying i i told i told you what you got to do though huh it's it's very easy
i don't know don't worry about it don't you
you mute it You mute, Ota Okay, can you hear me now?
Yes
Okay, listen
All you gotta do is
Baby, listen
I apologize, I'm sorry
I didn't let you know ahead of time
Because I knew it wouldn't sit right with you
But what I'm gonna do for you is
And not only am I gonna put the money back on what I spent
I'm gonna give you a little bit more
So you can go treat yourself to something nice.
Boom. Everything's
solved. Matter of fact, did you eat today yet?
Come on, ride with me real quick. Let's go
grab a little bite to eat.
Boom. No. She ain't try to hear that.
Hey, listen.
That's all I got.
I think the thing is with
her, they're like, okay,
you still feel this way about the kid.
You probably still feel something about her.
Oh, come on now.
You could be able to, you could separate the two now.
Come on now.
I didn't marry you.
I didn't marry you.
You already know.
Listen, the kid, they was in my life.
I feel some type of way about them, not knowing they're not going to have anything for Christmas.
Come on now.
She probably said, how is that my
problem?
Oh, well, women, women, women,
men, men, men, men, men.
Ocho,
you married. Yeah.
Your wife take money from your
account and buy
her ex kids.
Boy, you're going to be hard, Ocho.
I already know you.
You can't look at...
Hold on.
Let me tell you something about men.
Especially men that's in our position.
Right.
We're very territorial.
We're very possessive.
And the mere fact
that somebody might be
fishing in our pond
leaves me feeling
some type of way.
Well, I'm going to stop you
right there.
I'm going to tell you
one thing about my pawn.
My pawn and just me.
So now we got to understand they had.
I said you were married.
Oh,
okay.
Okay.
But let's say you see what you just said now,
right?
In this situation,
they had joint,
joint bank accounts.
I ain't,
I ain't having joint Nathaniel with nobody.
Now that Now that account
married, divorced,
ex-girlfriend,
none of that.
We not having
nothing.
I think you should have a joint
but you also have
an individual account.
But here's the thing though, Ocho.
Here's where you're going to
run into a problem again.
You're going to lose a trust
because you're doing stuff
and you didn't tell her.
So now she's going to have to question, what else haven't you told me about?
So you know what you got?
You have to build that back up.
You have to build that back up.
That's all.
You got to build that back up.
I think the thing is for me is that, look, I'm going to be, look,
now when it comes to my kids and it comes to my family,
I ain't telling you ish.
I ain't putting a lie to you.
Now, if it come to my
homeboy, hey,
bucket need to get, hey,
look,
I'm going to take a few dollars,
bucket down and look, bird need a little something,
blah, blah, blah. Okay, boom.
But when it come to my family,
right,
ain't nothing to be discussed. Right ain't nothing and listen and if it's
a problem they're gonna don't it it ain't gonna be no problem because i think the thing is with me
um people that deal with me that anybody's ever dealt with me they already know how i am with my
family right you hear how i speak about my brother you hear how I speak about my brother. You hear how I speak about my sister.
Look, my kids know I'm last option, not first choice.
But I got them if it's necessary, if it's a necessity.
They understand that.
I don't really do all that stuff because a lot of times people are like,
for me, Ocho, let me tell you something that I'm not going to do.
I'm not going to try to buy my kids for the time that i missed i'm not gonna do that so no i made sure my kids
left college with no debt i bought them a vehicle because i felt i owe my kids an education right i
owe them that but but why to buy houses and buy cars and to buy this and that because I sacrificed that time?
No, no, no, no, no.
That shit ain't happening.
That's not.
Right.
I told my kids.
We had this conversation.
I'm not saying y'all think I get on here.
Oh, no.
I tell my kids.
I can't buy lost time.
It's the one thing that I cannot get back. That's the number one currency. It's time. It's the one thing that I cannot get back.
That's the number one currency.
It's time.
I'm your father.
I'm your last option, not first choice,
because I've equipped you,
your mom and I have equipped you with the tools
for you to go out and be the world and be successful.
Now, understand that everything is not going to go out to be the world to be successful now understand that everything is not
gonna go perfect right now if you talk to me dad here this is what i'm thinking okay okay why do
you think you need to do it like this have you thought about doing it any other way you come to
me and says okay this is what i'm thinking it doesn't work out i got you but don't bring your
ass to me after you don did it on your own.
Try to be sneaky with it.
Now you got to save it.
Hell no.
Mm-mm.
Mm-mm.
Mm-mm.
Mm-mm.
No.
But like I said, if I'm with somebody and her family, she's like,
you know, my mom,
X, Y, and Z.
I got you.
If we in this thing together,
we in this thing together.
That's how I am.
Everybody might be different.
But if she needs something,
I got it.
But when it comes to my family,
my brother,
my sister,
because for the longest time, Mocho, that was all we had. That was all I had. brother, my sister, because for the longest time,
Mocho, that was all we had.
That was all I had.
I know my sister got money
from her boyfriend
to give to me and my brother.
He would run money by my...
When I was at Savannah State,
he'd run by them $50 coming good.
Yes, sir.
Coming handy.
Yeah.
He made sure,
damn near every Friday,
he passed it through.
Hey, Shaw,
somebody looking for you.
I already know who it was.
He'd be out there
in the parking lot.
Right.
Hand me the $50.
But,
yeah,
I just think the thing is,
Ocho,
this could have been handled
had he,
look, babe,
you know,
I was with Cuida, right?
I was with her for like
five or six years.
Right.
Kids,
I just want to do something
for them.
The dad,
it's going through, she's going through a hard time. I just want to get them a gift. The dad is going through a hard time.
I just want to give them a gift.
Maybe you're my A.
She was going to say no.
She was going to say no.
She was going to say no.
That's why he didn't tell her.
There's certain things you can't tell.
It's all about understanding.
Get it with.
Hold on.
A black woman at that
you think you finna are we in a joint account
man man please man
uh
absolutely not
uh
no sir
but you know what I do I do have a soft spot for kids
a soft spot for kids
um
you know but no i look at it look
the big account what a big dollar oh there ain't nobody name on that but mine
oh joe yeah you'll never you'll never have
uh
go to get some money
Mr. Sharp
there's no money
in this account
it had me crash out
the
the funny thing
about it is
what
what
well
I mean
I have to shoot
I
man
I ain't gonna put
my business out there
but
but I think
you and I
have the conversation
before
it's probably not
going to go well
and then you know
hey
you got to try to
you know
listen
I tell you like
my grandma used to say
this tooth shall pass
damn
but that's tough that's tough to have a uh i mean i don't know maybe that's common
though joe maybe that's common i don't know i don't know no no no no no but i said maybe that's
common that somebody was in somebody's life for that period of time my kid he's in the kid's life
from the time they were like two or three to the time they were like 12 so forth and so um
man or female male or female um
i don't know it's just let's just say i've never been in that position right um and so i i was
just like i think communication is the best thing, but you're probably right. She's probably going to say no. Yeah, probably.
She's probably she's going to say no. You know, I've never been I've never been in that situation.
I never had. But just listening to it, I'm just giving a hypothetical on what I would do if the situation presented itself.
You know, that's it. Especially if I if I've been with someone who's had kids and I understand the circumstance and the situation the kids are in
and understand that the mom is not going to be able to,
man, you know, like, you know, do something, man.
You know, here go five, 10,000, you know,
take care of the kids for Christmas, make sure they're good,
you know, whatever it may be.
Oh, yeah, you try to get them to divorce, you go up five to 10,000.
We talking about our circumstance.
Oh, yeah, yeah. We ain't talking about their circumstance, you give up $5,000 to $10,000. Bad head. We talking about our circumstance. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, okay, okay. We ain't talking about their circumstance, you know.
You know, that's a little...
I was thinking more along $500 to $500.
Yeah, I mean,
I mean,
I think $5,000 to $10,000 is
$100,000, you know, to...
Never mind.
How many kids is Ocho?
They said it was only three.
Oh, three.
Yeah.
You want my kid to get a good Christmas?
I mean, you know, what's five, 10,000
to somebody like you, man?
That ain't nothing.
Oh.
Ooh.
Bad. Boy, you... bad boy
bad
yeah 5-10,000
a grubber
alright George
you ain't gonna get paid this much George be like
boy
that got
George be like
empty kid
that ain't got nothing
to do with me
oh man
I'm like boy
I was thinking like
maybe a thousand
two thousand
or two thousand
five to ten.
Damn.
That'd be real, that cribble.
You get that cribble, keep the lights on.
Keep the lights on.
Keep them in the apartment another month or two.
Like $500,000
for three kids
what the hell
you ain't gonna get
you ain't gonna get nothing
you know
I mean look
you write Ocho
uh
uh
five ten thousand dollars
for somebody like
you
myself
and you
you and I
not a whole lot of money
I mean
so but he probably put out
about a $500,000
I'm thinking $500,000
yeah
yeah but listen I can understand her frustrations
you know yeah but I
tell you what I know a even
now the situation oh she gonna feel
some type of way
5 to 10 thousand
cause now she gonna be
oh y'all were really
connected y'all were really locked in
I was just throwing the number out there but you throwing the number out there then she gonna think y'all were really connected. Y'all were really locked in. I was just throwing a number out there.
I was just throwing a number.
But you're throwing a number out there that she's going to think y'all are really locked in
and you still might be locked in.
Yeah.
You're not just...
Now it's time for our
final segment of the evening. It's time for
Q&A.
Let's go, Chief!
Hey, Aaron Rogers, I know you're probably watching. Let's go cheat Hey Aaron Rodgers I know you probably watch him
Let's go tomorrow baby
Come on now
Lady Ray
Hey guys thanks for having me achieve my New Year's resolution
By letting me attend a live show in New Orleans
Which one of you guys
Are picking my vibes tomorrow
And which one of y'all gonna be wrong?
Who you
taking, Ocho? Hey.
Thank you for that question, lady. Very glad to see you back.
Bars must be closed.
Listen,
honestly, Detroit
is playing so well offensively. I know
Montgomery is out. Jermaine
Giles will be able to show the load.
But that goddamn Brian Flores
got that defense playing so well, man.
Due to the injuries
that the Lions have suffered,
I'm edging.
I'm edging out. It's going to be a shootout, though.
I'm edging out the Vikings
getting away with this one.
I got them winning the game simply because
of the injuries defensively,
you know, for the Lions.
Even though, man,
Brian Branch and Kirby Joseph,
man, they had one hell of a year.
You see Kirby,
you see Joseph,
they make the Pro Bowl.
We got Stubb, bro.
Leading the NFL
and intercepted with nine
at the safety position.
Hey, it happened. I remember one year with Simon Fletcher, he led the NFL in sacks and he didn't get selected the safety position. Hey, it happened.
I remember one year with Simon Fletcher,
he led the NFL in sacks and he didn't get selected.
So it's happened before.
Yeah.
That is great.
Since Ocho taking the bikes,
I can't pick with Ocho.
He bad luck.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, lady.
I'm taking the Lions.
Brandon Hall, new member.
Love the show.
Bro, thank you so much.
I really, really appreciate that.
Thank you for stopping by.
Hopefully you love the content that Ocho and I put out four or five nights a week.
But we appreciate your support.
Thank you, Brandon.
We really appreciate that.
Zachary Fields, it's my birthday, and I just wanted to wish,
give vibes for Nightcap Fam in 2025.
Also, who they?
Who they?
Who they think is going to beat them Bengals?
Who they?
Who they think is going to beat them Bengals?
Everybody was.
Nobody.
Who they?
You see how y'all can't handle a little prosperity?
Y'all can't handle no little prosperity. Y'all can't handle no little prosperity.
Y'all won a few games.
A few?
We ain't lost in five weeks.
What you talking about a few?
And there was a couple of times y'all hadn't won in five weeks.
So by the time y'all average.
Zachary, thank you, bro.
I appreciate that, man.
And happy birthday.
Aaron Owens.
Thank God the Bengals won
because Ocho
was going to cry
in the car.
Yep, he sure was.
I was going to make sure
he cried on air too.
Yeah.
But he's going to cry
tomorrow night.
Oh, no.
I'm definitely not.
I already told you
how the game was going to go.
Matter of fact,
I want my money in ones
because I'm going to go
to the strip club
and I'm going to throw them.
I'm going to throw them.
I'm going to tell the dancer.
New Orleans ain't got
no strip clubs.
Who?
New Orleans.
Yeah, they do.
They don't?
I don't know.
Don't start me to lie.
I'm sure they do.
They got some.
Well, if they ain't got no strip club,
we'll bring the strippers to us then.
No, we ain't.
We ain't going to do nothing.
Don't put me in your mess.
No.
You don't want to have a good time
with your money?
No.
All right. All right.
All right.
We're going to be busy working.
Yeah.
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who do you guys get bounced in the first round next week of the playoffs?
And can you drop new merch with your quote,
never accept anything in a win.
You wouldn't have a loss.
That's coming out there.
Well,
who remember the five seniors?
They're going to be,
I got them beating the uh, the Texans.
Now what happened if CJ Stroud and that offensive line decided to block and CJ Stroud have a day with Nico Collins?
Uh,
that's probably,
he's going to probably go against the Chargers.
Khalil Mack,
Bosa.
Ugh.
I don't even,
I don't even like the thought of that so if I had to pick
I think that would be
and it could be a
situation the four seed
is the Rams so I can see a scenario
where both five seeds beat the four seeds
the Lions
or the Vikes
play Minnesota,
and
obviously it'll be in LA,
and the five seed
I think will be the Chargers.
I can definitely see them beating
Houston, Texas.
Guatemalan
dude,
if any of your playoff teams don't
nobody want to see Joey B make the playoffs
that team is playing hot
and Joey Burrow is making plays
thank you that's what I'm talking about
somebody that can actually see it
I appreciate that
Guatemalan whatever your name is
but I appreciate you
because Unc can't see it
but he gonna know
he gonna know
he gonna understand tomorrow
and he gonna understand next week
when we make it
into the first round
and we demoralize
we gotta play
Axel Bravo
Unc stop lying
you're terrified for the Broncos
Denver and Miami
got all the pressure on Sunday
no one wants to face the Bengals in the playoffs yeah not gonna be in the playoffs yep You're terrified for the Broncos. Denver and Miami got all the pressure on Sunday.
No one wants to face the Bengals in the playoffs.
Yeah.
You're not going to be in the playoffs.
Yep.
Y'all not going to be in the playoffs.
Okay.
Okay.
Listen, I can't convince you because I'm not on the field,
but I let the game tomorrow.
I let Carson Wentz and Aaron Rodgers do the talking.
Y'all, bro, y'all scored 19 points.
Stop pretending like y'all scored 40.
Hold on, hold on.
We played a divisional opponent.
A team with scores always low.
Always.
Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. No. Hootie. Hootie. thank you thank you thank you
no
who they
who they
okay
who they
Tim Lee
Ray Charles
can see that
this offense
Bengals are playing
bad
the Bengals
are playing
bad offenses
nobody watched
the game and said
oh we're scared
to play the Bengals
you sound silly
they're not going
to the playoffs
stop
thank you Tim
and not you can tell Tim probably got one eye we're scared to play the Bengals. You sound silly. They're not going to the playoffs. Stop. Thank you, Tim. And not.
You can tell Tim probably got one eye.
I guarantee you Tim got one eye
because I don't know what the hell he's been looking at.
What you been watching the past four, five weeks?
Man, stop playing.
Stop playing.
Angie Carr, 4,000 yards passing,
900 yards rushing rushing 40 touchdowns
4 INTs
insane stats
Lamar is him
Henry
1,900 yards
first player in history
with three
15 plus
100
rush season
rushing yard season
15 touchdowns
Ocho
what y'all put in the water
in Florida
shoot ain't nothing but a little you know, little mixture of Kool-Aid,
you know, ice cream trucks, candy lady house, you know.
Listen, when we drink water,
we drink the water from the water holes on the side of the house.
That's how it all starts.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Ashley Moore
Watters weapons
for now
for the MVP
but it didn't stop Mahomes
when he had Hill and Kelsey
when Brady had Moss
when Aaron had Adams
Montella had Rice
but we draw the line
with Lamar and Henry
listen
I like that you just said that
what you need to understand is
is when it comes to certain individuals
they will constantly move the goalpost
to support whatever narrative they want to run with.
And that is what they're going to do.
You got to understand that.
They will move the goalpost,
which is what they're going to do.
I have a feeling.
I can feel it.
The fact that Josh Allen is still leading
an MVP voting race with Drag Kings.
I'm not sure what Vegas
has the odds at.
This is what they do.
They trying to give it to him.
Matter of fact,
if Lamar Jackson
don't win MVP,
we riot.
Who are we?
Me and you.
No, I ain't.
I don't care that much.
That MVP ain't put nothing in my pocket.
No.
Miguel Sosa.
Green from Mexico.
Go Falcons.
Woo.
Yeah.
Y'all about to go on vacation, Miguel.
But thank you.
Vivian Ekime.
Uncle Ocho. What do you think the reason why Mahomes was not selected
to the Pro Bowl? What do you mean?
I think it's the third time. Did you watch Mahomes play all season?
It's the third time
since the Pro Bowl
has been selected that a
quarterback that has won 14 games
wasn't selected. Each time that
has happened, the quarterback that wasn't
selected won the Super Bowl.
Tom Brady in 2003
wasn't selected.
He won the Super Bowl.
Phil Simms in 1986,
he won the Super Bowl.
And now Patrick Mahomes.
We'll see if history repeats itself.
Yeah, but we know why.
We know why he wasn't selected.
If you watch Mahomes play
the entire season outside the past,
what, maybe three or four weeks?
He hasn't played well at all.
They won the games
they needed to win
because of him playing
extremely well.
He's played well
when he had to.
In moments, yeah.
But overall,
based on the Mahomes
that we're used to seeing,
this was a down year.
Down year, yeah.
I mean, a down year
for Patrick Mahomes
is 28, 29 touchdowns,
11 interceptions, and almost 4,000 yards. That's a down year for Patrick Mahomes is 28, 29 touchdowns, 11 interceptions, and almost 4,000 yards.
That's a down year.
That just goes to show you how high the bar is that he set for himself.
Big Mike said, you think Saquon will regret not pushing harder
for that record 10 years from now, going to pay signing
and not being the all-time uh
leading rusher in a single season i think
opportunities like this don't come along often i mean you got to think about it
only three minutes held that record since probably the 60s?
50s? Jim Brown,
OJ Simpson,
Eric
Dickinson.
So you got to go back 60, maybe even almost
70 years.
Yeah.
I think
Perry, I think Joe Perry had
it first. Then Jim broke
his record.
And then obviously OJ and then ED.
Matt, you know, I don't want to get myself hot.
I don't even get upset about it.
Yeah, because they don't do it at me.
Look, I don't think, ain't nothing we can do, Ocho.
And it seems like we're more upset
than
Yeah.
He says
they said he's going to rest. He says he's
okay with it. The bigger players,
they got a higher purpose, but I don't
believe those are mutually exclusive. I don't believe
because you get one, you
lose out on the other. I believe you
could have them both, but hey, that's not
our decision, Ocho. I think we boys
decide that we stand on, but
hey. Diane West says,
I'm in the online store
stocking on
my nightcap gear.
Can I make a few requests? What about
socks, underwear, lady
t-shirts, B-cut or low-cut?
I want my t-shirt to match my panties
when I watch the games
at home. Okay?
I like that.
Matter of fact, you know what we can have?
Yeah. Like for the ladies, right? what you know what we can have oh yeah like for the ladies right
for the ladies we can have nightcap underwear right it could say nightcap on the back
and on the front it could say you could say onkonocho no no that's an old dude gonna come
why you got onkonocho on the front of your drawers.
That's the whole point.
How about we just have it on the rim,
maybe a like nightcap
or on the rim, Ocho?
Okay, but then we have exclusive
because we both have fans, right?
We have nightcap on the back, right?
And then you can either buy,
you can buy panties
that say Ocho on the front
or you can buy panties.
No, I don't mind to say Ocho.
Don't say Ocho.
Hey, that's could buy panties. No, I don't mind to say Ocho. Don't say Ocho. No.
Hey, that's a good idea, though.
Like, we could have lingerie.
No.
No?
I like to, you know what?
We have, we are thinking about socks, Diane,
or Danny,
the t-shirts.
We'll talk to our designer and see how we can make that
how we can make something that's
yeah
but I think they want something you know how women be
I like that
I like that
I like that lingerie hey guys. Oh, man. This jungle here. I like that.
The lingerie.
Brandon said, hey, guys, I'm 25.
I have a crush on a 24-year-old co-worker.
No, bro.
Don't stick your dick in your wallet.
All the women out there in the world.
And you find one woman at work.
But let me finish what he said, Ochoa.
I have a crush on a 24-year-old co-worker. I now suspect she's flirting or being too playful
with a much younger co-worker of ours.
I'm bothered because I bought her a necklace
with her name on it for Christmas.
I'm hurt, y'all.
Man, why are you leaving with money in the first place?
Man, what are you doing?
You don't leave with money.
You don't do that never do that
ever
go get your chain back like T.I.
did Nunu
I know you saw
ATL go snatch your chain
back the same way T.I.
took Nunu chain back
you don't do that you don't leave with
money bro my grandfather told us something at a very young age I took Nunu chain back. You don't do that. You don't leave with money.
Bro.
My grandfather told me something at a very young age.
He said,
boy,
never put your dick in your wallet.
Now,
if y'all don't understand what I'm saying is that you at work,
that's where you make your money.
Now it's going to go bad.
Now when it does,
then what?
That's how,
you know, you got to be careful with them gym romances.
Because I look at the gym as my sanctuary.
Now, it goes sideways, don't you?
Which one of us is not going back to that gym?
Because I'm not going to have you up in there acting a fool all up in my face.
Because first of all, people don't really know you. They go, oh, man, I'm not going to have you up in there acting a fool all up in my face. Because the first thing,
because first of all, people don't really know you.
They go, oh, man, I'm so shallow and sharp.
He was arguing with some girl.
We're having a heated discussion in the corner.
You see?
Bro.
They don't know.
Bro, I'm just saying, look,
I don't know where you work.
Even if you work at Apple
Google
uh
uh
if you work on a campus
that got a hundred thousand people
bro
go outside bro
don't mess your buddy up
yeah
don't eat with your shit
oh lord
Greg said can you give my daughter Gia birthday shout out with your shit. Oh, Lord.
Greg said,
can you give my daughter Gia birthday shout out?
She's 14 today.
My mug and T-shirt
came yesterday.
Greg, absolutely.
Happy birthday,
Gia.
Greg, thank you
for watching the show.
Thank you for being
so supportive
with the purchase
of the mug
and the T-shirt.
Hopefully you enjoyed
what you ordered
and it's a great quality.
We know it is,
but we thank you.
Appreciate your support,
bro.
King Don said,
can y'all wish my son casting a happy third birthday?
Casted happy third,
bro.
You're too young to remember this,
but one day you're going to grow up and say,
you know what?
Uncle don't you wish me a happy birthday.
My dad got up and asked him to wish me a happy birthday
And they did
Casted happy third birthday
And many more to come
Marquez, what's up Uncle Nocho
Today is a special day
It's my girl's, Ali's, birthday
Can you please shout her out
For the one time love of the show
Happy New Year
Yes sir
Ali, happy birthday.
Your guy Marquez wanted to let you know
how special you are and how
fortunate he is to have you in his life.
So happy birthday. Enjoy
this day. Hopefully you guys did something
very fun, very romantic,
very special. Yeah.
Enjoy this day and many more to come.
Happy birthday
to... Dominique.
Hey,
I can note your love nightcap question for y'all.
I placed an order for LaPorte maybe three months ago.
Uh,
when you did the limited edition,
never got it.
I've reached out to service.
Haven't got any help.
Who do I reach out to?
Uh,
shoot.
I should email a deep, a direct message. Cause i want to see so we can trace you we can
track it because that's not like us uh to drop the ball and not just like totally send it out
but uh if you could do that we would greatly greatly appreciate that and we'll get it taken
care of hey so you guys can wish my my sister Carrie a happy early birthday from her little
brother. Carrie, happy
early birthday from Ace.
The Nightcap crew, Oak and Ocho
and family want to wish you one.
So hopefully
you enjoy your birthday and do something
fun.
Enrique Robles.
Ocho, much love. My birthday
is today. Would love a shout out.
The big two six.
If you were a past GM, would you trade that pick or take Travis?
Thank you very much.
Love.
What pick they got?
Number one, I'm trading it.
I'm trading it.
I can get a lot.
It all depends.
Now, if I get T Higgins
might think about keeping it
yeah
uh
hold on
hold on
now
it all depends
what else could I get
now
let's just say
I get that pick
you give me
Miles Garrett
and your number one pick
could that interest you you give me Miles Garrett and your number one pick. Woo-hoo.
Could that interest you?
It could.
Because I get something to help Drake May.
I get something to help my defense.
Go along, Gonzalez.
But you know,
well, that puts him right back
in the same situation, though.
What?
I mean, Miles Garrett. I mean, he wants to go to a contender. Why would you do that puts him right back in the same situation though what i mean miles garrett i mean he wants to go to a contender why would you do that to oh yeah yeah for sure for sure hold on ojo listen i know you want to go to contender but i'm gonna send because contenders
this is what we know Ocho
contenders are not going to give you the best price
thank you for joining us.
The Bengals keep their playoff hopes alive with a 1914 victory over the Steelers
and the Baltimore Ravens win the division, the AFC North,
with a 35-10 win over Cleveland.
Baltimore secures the number three seed. They will play the winner of, if San Diego wins,
they go to the six spot.
Yeah.
If the Chargers win, the Chargers win, Ocho, they're six.
No, if the Chargers win, they're five.
The Steelers are six.
If the Chargers lose, the Steelers are five and the Chargers are six.
So the sixth seed will be either the Chargers or the Steelers,
and they face the Ravens.
The five seed will also be the Chargers or the Steelers,
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So that's the only thing that we know.
What we do know, somebody's going to Buffalo.
Either it's going to be Cincinnati,
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If those two scenarios happen, the Bengals are the seventh seed,
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One, 35-10.
Lamar Jackson, 217 yards, two passing touchdowns.
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He became, set a record, for the most
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Also, he became the first player
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Is it three or four?
Three or four.
For Derrick Henry, he was everything that the Ravens had hoped for
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He had three seasons.
Derrick Henry has three seasons
when he's run for at least 1,500 yards
and had at least 15 rush touchdowns.
Baltimore brought Derrick Henry in
and believed that he was everything they could hope for.
The Dallas Cowboys had no interest in Derrick Henry because they would
believe he could offer them nothing.
He added no value to their team.
Oh,
one team is going to the playoff.
The other team is going home.
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Oh,
and that's the,
the lions and the Packers.
So we'll see you tomorrow.
Lions and Vikings.
I mean, Lions and Vikings.
Excuse me, Lions and Vikings.
We'll see you after the Lions-Vikings game.
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