Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Lamar's Potential Revenge, Nancy Lieberman vs. Sheryl Swoopes

Episode Date: September 3, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react Baltimore Ravens QB Lamar Jackson's preparation for NFL opening weekend vs. Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, Nancy Lieberrman's responds to Sheryl Swoopes and much more!42:22 - Nancy Lieberman vs. Sheryl Swoopes01:00:00 - Q and Ayy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you're damn right. Now, even though I can't go back and take what you've already gotten, but I want my lick back. I want to get your ass out. I want you to feel like how I felt last year. Like you were going to the Super Bowl and we were taking our ass home. So I want to

give you that feeling because you hadn't had that feeling in quite a while Pat you know that a long and I want you to feel that long time so I want you when you're driving away from the stadium and the fans wave and say don't worry about it we had a good season that's what I want you to hear hey and I want you to play in the Pro Bowl because I won't be playing in the Pro Bowl this year I'm going to be getting ready for the Super Bowl if I'm a if I'm a Lamar, yeah, yeah, I'm going to get your ass back yeah

slow down a little bit you talk about the Ravens playing in the Super Bowl you know, Joe Burrow and the Bengals are going to be ready for New Orleans man, Joe ain't beating, He got one win against the Bar. I know we've won in three. It's a new season, huh? It's a new season.

It's a new season. And I know we have a lot of Ravens fans in the chat. I love you. No disrespect. No, I love you. And I've always showed love and grace to all of you as fans, even when I was playing. But I'm telling you, the AFC North runs through the 5-1-3.

Stop playing. And if anybody in the chat that'sFC North runs through the 5-1-3. Stop playing. And if anybody in the chat that's a Ravens fan want to put some money on it, put your money up. Let's bet. What you talking about, man? Who they? Stop playing with me. You know what it is. The Patriots are entering a new era without Coach Belichick.

And their jerseys reflect that. The Patriots' captains will wear a C on their jersey this season. Something Belichick never allowed. But new coach Jared Mayo, Gerard Mayo will. Mayo said, I do think it's important to have that C on the jersey. That's one difference that I think is important. It's a badge of honor. And I think when our guys do the right thing, they should be recognized for those things. It's something as small as having a captain's patch i think it's important for those guys ocho you like that it's dope it's cool but you know belichick one with that listen one team we all come out at the same time when we introduce

one band one sound you know i mean that's that's that was the way Belichick ran everything. You know, again, I use it. I use it. I use the analogy. I've never been to the army. I've never been to the Navy. I don't know what it's like to be part of the Marines. But the way that team was ran. Was in a militant manner.

We all move as one. So there was no need for the, know the c on the chest we knew who we knew who the captain was we knew who ran the show he wore number 12 yeah we knew who it was you know but i think it's a cool thing gerard mayo getting back to you know um what what a lot of other teams do and having a captain and it no it's dope yeah it's dope i like that because i'm not doing with coach but i'm not coach belichick coach belichick chose not to have the seeds i choose to have them right um yeah coach belichick father uh coached at the naval academy i think his dad was in the naval academy um yeah so you could understand why the militarism uh the militaristic

style in which he coached the discipline, the determination, the dedication. You have to have that in the military or as Colonel Nathan Jessup said, men die when men don't follow orders, men die. Yeah. There are consequences and coach Belichick did a great job of conveying that his players did a great job of understanding that. And that's why there were very few times, you probably can count on one hand,

how many times did you say a Coach Belichick team beat themselves? Yeah, very seldom. They're not going to get those stupid penalties. They're not going to do it. Very seldom. You never see Coach Belichick players die with the ball, trying to get the ball over the end zone. If it's not going out at the one,

if we can't get it in four downs, we don't deserve to get the ball in the end zone. Because the risk-reward, you get it punched out, it goes out the back of the end zone. If it's not going out at the one, if we can't get it in four downs, we don't deserve to get the ball in the end zone because the risk reward, you get it punched out, it goes out the back of the end zone. Now, not only do we not get points, they get the ball at the 20 going out the other way. So he did a great job of that, but I do like it. Let me ask you a question.

Do you think players care about having that C on the jersey? I think it's dope to understand and know how your peers feel about you, how your teammates feel about you. Being able to don that C on your shirt, I think

it's cool. It's a really dope honor to know that your peers and your players view you as that captain and the leader of men when it's time to go to war on that field i think i think it's dope yeah i mean i'm listen i when i when i played i wasn't a guy shit i i ain't kidding about that captain i i couldn't be a captain because i was too busy goddamn making jokes before before the time to go play but But, uh, I, I, I guess it's cool.

Yeah, I guess it's cool. Uh, yeah, I would love to have a Jersey with captain on that thing. And, you know, that wasn't a thing.

I think it came in like a couple of years, maybe a year or two after I left, but, uh, it would have been an unbelievable honor. Of course. Uh, to know,

um, I was three time captain, uh, at Savannah state. We didn't have, obviously, we didn't have no seat. I don't even think, what Deion put, leader, and then I think

Trav got D, which means dog, on here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, I think it's an unbelievable honor. And everybody that gets that captaincy on their jersey, they should feel proud of themselves that the coaches and the players they should they should feel proud of themselves that the coaches and the players thought that no matter them that you're the captain of this team we we

we believe in you and uh yeah i thought i think it would be an unbelievable honor if that if that would have happened oh joe check this out nbc is reporting the nfl could soon look to start the season with games on Labor Day. There will reportedly be games scheduled Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. You like it? I love shit to hell. I like it. You give me more football, that's better for me.

No, you give me more money, that's better for me. Well, the money's going to come or there ain't going to be no games played. Yeah. So they add the game on late, but you just understand that that's an extra check. Yeah. That's an extra check. I think the thing is, they're doing that, Ocho, but are you going to add an extra bye week? Because now, if you have

18 games, the game is already the second Sunday in February. You add that extra game. Everybody had everybody had two baths. Hey, you playing, you playing, what's the holiday in February. You add that extra game. Everybody had too bad. You playing the holiday in February, President's Day? You playing games after the first of March.

Yeah. I mean, look, the NFL, look. The NFL is king. And the only way that you can get more money out of these linear networks, these streaming services, is to give them what they want.

You got to play. You got to play ball. Yeah. You got to play ball. And the players are going to get a slice of the pie. The players are going to get a piece of the pie. So, listen,

I like it. Well, they already going to have this Thanksgiving. Don't they got a already going to have this Thanksgiving. Don't they got a game like leading up to Thanksgiving? They got games like Thursday, Friday. Yeah, we got a – I mean, they got a Friday game this week, Coach O. Green Bay and Philly play Friday.

Yeah. I mean, and we got a game Thursday. So, hey, that's better for me. Yeah. Because I'm excited. I'm waiting for football season. I've been waiting. You know how long I've been waiting for this?

I've been waiting for this for a long time. Yeah. So that means you're probably going to only have, like, two preseason games. Yeah. And then, you know, you have two preseason games. Now, guys will get to come to camp probably a little later. Because I don't think you'd have, you know,

two preseason games, Ochoa and then. Because after the third preseason game, you still got, like, two weeks. So that means, Tim, you're going to have two preseason games and have three weeks before you play. Probably bring the players in later, a week later, maybe even 10 days later, have the two games, and then, boom, we're going to get ready to go. So you might not be coming into camp, Ocho, until damn near

the end of July, the beginning of August. I don't like not having enough preseason games for players that are they not playing seventh round when the last time you saw when the last time you saw Patrick Mahomes play the preseason hold on so you think you think you think two games is enough to evaluate players that are trying to make a team they're not playing your starters aren't playing Ocho that's what that's what I'm saying. I'm talking about the players that were drafted in lower rounds and

free agents. Do you think two preseason games is enough film to be able to make a team? I guess they're doing a lot of eval, OTA. They're doing a lot of eval. The mandatory, the minis and the mandatory minis. And you know you're just going to have to show a lot earlier

okay they're probably going to the practice squads so you know a guy maybe he's not ready to play right now but a year I think he'll be ready you just hope somebody he doesn't show somebody else enough

that they sign him off your practice squad and put his ass on the roster. And put his ass on the active roster. But we know this is coming because I think they got like Thanksgiving. I think they got a like a Tuesday game like Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday,

Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Damn! That might be Christmas. That might be the Christmas schedule, Ash. But they got like, I think they play like every day except like Wednesday. Because you know what I mean? They had the Black Friday game. Friday game, yeah.

Speaking of Black Friday, boy, I can't wait for them sales. Man, that's they gonna sell. All they do is mark it up two weeks before and then mark it down to make you think you're getting something. You don't shop on Black Friday at Target? So they got a game Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday.

Not Saturday. So Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday, Monday. Okay. Black Friday, baby. Ow. You heard me, huh? What happened? You don't shop it on Black Friday?

Man, I ain't been on the market. Bruh. No, I'm saying for me listen Target, Black Friday at Target the Hanes underwear the tank tops the white tees the gold toe socks, you know about the gold toe socks what you know about that

why you wearing gold toe socks for dress shoes, those for dress shoes no no no the cotton sock with the gold toe they just call wearing gold toe socks for dress shoes. Those for dress shoes. No, no, no. The cotton sock with the gold toe. I just call them gold toe because the toe is gold. But that's what the dress socks are. But they sliced them prices in half. No, you pay a full price.

You just think you pay in half. No, I know the prices. I got the Target app, huh? I got the Target app. I know the prices, man. Don't do me like that. Yeah. No, I don't.

No, Shelly shops on Black Friday. I don't shop. But I don't mean, I mean, it's not like, I mean, occasionally she'll go and get it, but for the most part, she'll just order it

and have it sent to them, have it sent. I'll try it on. Okay, I like it. I don't. She'll come, when she comes, she'll send it back.

Nah, but going to the store, like actually, you mean to tell me like going to the store and actually try stuff on? No, no, no. I don't do that. I don't do that. That, like actually, you mean to tell me like going to store and actually try stuff on? No, no, no. I don't do that. I don't do that.

That's like 10, 15 years. But hold on. You don't, you don't just go to Target just to walk up and down the aisles? No, I go to Target. If I go to Target, if I'm low on something, but now Shelly just buys everything. So she'll buy, she'll buy like, like those big old Listerines. She'll buy like four of those. She'll buy like 22 of the toothpaste.

She'll buy like, you know, plaques, like 15 things of plaques. And so once I get to like five, she'll buy like 10 shower gels. So I don't really need to go. Yeah, I mean, but see, I don't think you understand. Like just there's a certain excitement. I don't know about you, Chad. I don't know about y'all, but there's a certain excitement I get. I don't want to use the word like a adrenaline rush,

but there's a certain excitement about just going in Target. Just knowing you're going in there and you're going in there for one thing. And the challenge in being able to just purchase that one thing is such a great feeling to see if you can actually do it. And just being able to walk up and down each aisle,

like it's that, like going to the target brings me such joy. I don't, I don't know how to explain it. It's weird. I don't know if I'm the only one that has this weird fascination with this damn store, but like,

it's awesome. It's like every time I walk in, it's like, I've never been there before. It's like, I've never been there. I'd be happy. I'd be happy as hell.

I, uh, I, uh, I mean, I, one time I had a girlfriend send me to the store to get some hamburger patties. She said, all you need is hamburger patties and buns. Man, I came back with $250 worth of groceries. Man, I done bought cornbread. I done bought everything. I done bought filet. I done bought ribeyes. And I done bought man I done bought cornbread I done bought everything I done bought I done bought filet

I done bought ribeyes and I done bought everything I went to Pulse's shop so that's why I don't really like I go for one I might go for one thing man I'm getting grapes

plums apples all type of stuff I'm getting everything so it's just best I'm coming back with granola

chips so it's like I try to'm coming back with granola chips. So it's like, I try to stay. I don't really do a whole lot of shopping. So that's Shelly's job. Shelly, Shelly, Shelly get paid to do all that stuff.

So it can wait till she get here. If I get it, if I need something, she'll do like, cause I don't have, I don't have Lyft. I don't have Uber eats. I don't have those kinds of apps on my phone,

so I can't order it. So she'll order it. Right, right, right. Or, you know, like Uber. See, like my daughter, usually I have my daughter this weekend. You know, I'm trying her out. She interning right now. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

She only gave her the card. So she was in charge of transportation, making sure everybody gets from point A to point B. And she did a great job. I said, baby, you did a great job. I said, but you know what daddy expect now? You're like, yeah, I know daddy. I said, okay. Just so we know. Just so we clear. Also, we briefly touched on the

Brazil game last night where Darius Slay came out and said he doesn't want to play the game in Brazil. He said, they already told us not to leave the hotel. They tell us we can't do too much going on because the crime rate is crazy. I'm like, NFL, why y'all want to send going on because the crime rate is crazy i'm like nfl why y'all want to send us somewhere where the crime rate is high i told my family not to come

down here because i'm not going to be nowhere to be found i'm gonna be in my hotel chilling minding my business playing my game after a long nine and a half hour flight so i don't have no intentions of doing anything i'm gonna eat hotel food i'm gonna be doing everything but they said it's gonna be pretty crazy down here i listen i understand where you're coming from i understand where you're coming from the gangs in brazil they they are kind of crazy knowing the nfl and the security and the measures that they're going to take i think the players are going to be okay, especially wherever they are staying. But what the NFL is trying to do is continue to go...

Glow the game globally. The NFL brand globally in a place that is dominated by the game of football, soccer for that matter. I understand what they're doing, trying to present American football over there in Brazil. I think it's a great thing.

It's a great thing for the game, but I don't want the players to get distracted or focus on the part of not wanting to go to Brazil, not wanting to go to Brazil, but focusing on the game at hand. I want to go to Brazil. Yeah, listen, you want to go for the Royals. Hold on, Ojo, we

need to go to Carnival. Damn, you can't go now. Carnival? Yeah, listen, you want to go for the Royal? Hey, that carnival. Hold on, Joe. We need to go to carnival. Damn, you can't go now. You don't about to get back. Carnival? Yeah, carnival. Oh, sure. We can go to carnival. What's up? When is it?

I don't know. We can go? Oh, when you find out where it is, we can go. Hey, where's the carnival? They be all dressed up. Chad, when is the carnival? Hey, they got something like that in Jamaica, too, don't they? Don't they got a festival like that in Jamaica where the women dressed up in, like, costumes

with flowers and beads? I think so. I know in the Bahamas they have Junkanoo. And I'm sure Jamaica has something as well. I'm not sure what it may be called. We're at 28, though, Joe. Oh, we can go. Could we just be finishing work at the Super Bowl? Yeah. Oh, we out.

We out. Like a scout on a new route. Yeah, we dead. We definitely gone. We definitely gone. But yeah. Go be scout on a new route. Yeah, we dead. We definitely gone. We definitely gone. But yeah, yeah. Go be Litty, Litty. Yeah, we Litty. I love that.

Stay in your city, city. Yeah. Yeah. I love Slay. I just, I want my dog, I want my dog to focus, focus on the game. You know, we understand the dangers

that are going on in Brazil. But hell, you're playing Philly. You're playing Philly. Philly just is dangerous. Philly just is dangerous. It's Brazil. But I understand it. You understand the bigger picture that the NFL is trying

to do. Yeah, I do. I understand. Are you there for a football game? You don't need to go nowhere. Stay in your room. Give me some bodyguards. I'm gone. Oh, you're going to leave anyway? Give me four bodyguards with some Uzi. Come on, let's do this. With some Uzi?

I need to see something. I need to do something for two something. Nah, let them boys focus, man. I focus. Nah, let them boys focus. Let them boys focus. You see how your boys looking down on you? I focus. Let them boys focus. You see how your boys looking down on you? Focus.

It's tough. Like I said, I've played a lot of international games. I've been to Japan twice. I've been to Barcelona. I've been to Berlin. We played in Australia. We played in Australia. We played in Mexico. Not a whole, I mean,

I mean, we're in Japan. I mean, it was just hot as hell. And you know, everybody love American money. They bargain with you got American money. You got American money? Yeah, I got American money. We make deal. All right. Let's make a got American money. We make deal. All right. Let's make a deal. Let's make a deal.

Let's make a deal. I'm here to make a deal. Man, I got a whole bunch of... Man, I bought that stuff back. Man, that stuff don't work, man. You know, Japan, like, in the 90s, they had, like, the cassette, you know, the Waltmans and stuff like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just playing the CD and the disc. Man, I got that thing back over here, man. It stopped working? I think it started working on the plane. I think it might have started working as soon as I got it out of that damn store. Tell why you booed. And I think, you know what?

I just remember, I think, I remember going to McDonald's, and I think like a Big what? I just remember, I think, I remember going to McDonald's and I think like a Big Mac, a large fry and a Coke was like 15 bucks. It was very, very expensive. It was like almost basically triple the price of what you would play

in the States. Right. But yeah, I mean, but you already know. It's not that the food is bad. It's just that you're not used to eating the food. So you're not used to bad. It's just that you're not used to eating the food. So you're not used to eating, yeah, things that you're not used to eating.

But pizza, Ash will be right at home. We've never gone any place that Ash can't find something that she likes. Oh, you don't like this? Hell no! No! Hey, Ash

got a palette Look here Everything Whatever Ash, you like Italian food? Yeah You don't like Italian? See, I'm not I'm not a picky eater either

You don't eat Right Is there anything that you don't eat? Don't like She think for a second No, not really Pickles Oh, yeah

Pickles, whatever Something else you should be Olive Pickles, olives Salt and vinegar So that's it not really pickles oh yeah pickles whatever something else you told me olives pickles olives salt vinegar so that's it salt vinegar chips pickles and olives everything else is a buffet it's good yes see i i i am one that will try anything one time and there are three things i will never eat what i would never eat because I don't like the texture. Okras, zucchini, and squash. Okras, zucchinis, and squash?

Oh, no. Absolutely. Not a chance in hell. No. Nah, okay. I don't like none of that either. I don't like none of that either. There's a lot. I'm really picky. I've always been either. I'm really, really picky.

I mean, I've always been picky. I've always been picky. But I'm picky when it comes to vegetables. I'll try a different type of meat. I'll try meat. So if you say, okay, Shannon, okay, this is a possum, or this is a squirrel, this is armadillo, this stuff, I'll try that.

Come on, man. You talk about some okra and Brussels sprouts and all that. Come on, man. You talk about some old grain Brussels sprouts and all that. I'm good. Man, I'm telling you, Ocho, you get your nice medium-sized raccoon. Come on, man.

Come on, man. Come on, man. Cut some bell peppers up, some onion, put that aluminum foil, cut him up, Ocho, and put his ass in the oven by 325.

Nah, man. Watch him fall off the bone. Watch him fall off the bone. Watch him fall off the bone, Ocho. Come on, man. I guarantee you, I let my sister cook that thing for you, Ocho. I guarantee you, people think somebody's snapping their fingers the way your lips be popping. Nah, man. That your lips pop like that, he lips.

I ain't eating no raccoon. That ain't happening. But you eat booty. Huh? But you eat booty. I don't actually eat it. You eat it. You an eater.

You what they call it. I'm not actually. I don't actually eat it. Gen Z call you an eater. Nah. You actually eating raccoon. You actually eating booty. No, you don't actually eat it.

Tongue up in there. Like, ugh. Right there. Yeah, you need help, Mojo. Hey, you don't eat it, man. You just right around the rim. Whatever. You know when you shoot the basketball you just whatever right around the rim like you know when you

when you know when you shoot the basketball and the basketball rolling around the rim before it go in yeah that's it and guess what

and sometimes they go roll roll roll and they go right in the hoop and you ride ride ride and you're right in the hoop yeah you're supposed

you're supposed to go you're supposed to go in the hoop man you're supposed to go in the hoop but it's better than eating raccoon raccoons eat everything

out there. They scavenger. They scavenger. So do pigs. Nah, man. A pig eat its own. There's nothing a pig will not eat. You're talking about a guy that grew up on a farm. Anybody that grew up on a farm in the south,

a pig and a chicken are the nastiest animals you will ever meet. The nasty. Not worse than a raccoon is worse. No, it's not. No, it's not. Raccoon is worse. Nope.

Nope. Nah. Nah. No, sir. And toes. People walk on them feet. Are you eating them? Listen, it is.

It's nothing. It's nothing. It's nothing wrong. It's nothing wrong with detailing your women. It's nothing wrong with detailing your woman. Now, you stuck in the 80s and you haven't evolved when it comes to foreplay in that area. I have. Listen, no, no, no, no.

Because you refuse to suck on toes and you won't lick no ass. Okay, sue me. I mean, you stuck in the 80s. You have to evolve with the times, huh? You know what? You know what you need? You need to be nasty just for a weekend. Y'all need to go on a vacation. Let her turn you out and introduce you to some of the things we do

in the 2000s. That's all. That's all. That's all. You'll come back a different man. I'll tell you that. Man, you know I'm on them rubies now, Ocho. I got off them diamonds. I'm on them rubies. What's a ruby? Them rose sparks.

Oh. The rose sparks. Ocho, I put one of them. I got the way I can talk with one of them in my mouth, like a ventriloquist. Yeah. And them rubies, man. I bought them rubies hard.

Yeah. Literally and figuratively. I like it. I'm going to try one. I'm going to try one. Like one of them old four carbo. Hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

I just thought about something. We talk about these rubies. We talk about these sparks. Yeah. What are the side effects? I need to understand the side effects when you come down

because you know there's a high. Yeah. After a high, there's a come down. There's side effects once you come down. Yeah. Rug burns.

Rug burns. that's the side of me that's the side of me that's what I've experienced now I don't know what everybody else but I'm talking about me that's what I've been experiencing hell nah hell nah I'm telling you Ocho

I'm gonna try it I just I've never had never taken any paraphernalia outside of Tylenol and Advil I'm not sure I'm at the age now where where that is required or is needed but I think I'm gonna try it

I'm gonna try it just to see what it can do as far as enhancing my performance horizontally and vertically. Oh, what's that? Hey, you know, like these kids now in order to study to be hyper focused. Right. What? What? That really?

What's that medicine that they be taking to make a riddling? Like, yeah. When you game. Yeah. Game to make you focus. Right. Adderin. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

It gets you hyper. Take it to another level. Right. I'm going to try it. Yeah, man. I'm going to try it. What you do do Ocho but see

I don't want that to be something that I have to acquire every time you know and sometimes things can be addictive based on the sensation or

the enhancement of performance that it may give you can be addictive based on the sensation or the, the, the, the enhancement of performance that it may give you. I'll tell you what now, if you don't, if you, if you not going to be able to look,

that's a situation like, and your situation, I would recommend it because once you do, it's like, it's like once you do for somebody, there's an expectation level that that's right you're going to be in a continuation see see um uh-uh i don't want to come on with you come on now come on with you come on hey get good or get gone now what you gonna do we barbecue in the meal, do it. I'm barbecuing, Ocho, every time. Every time.

Nah, I'm a... Yeah, see, I don't want no problems. I might have to stay away from that. I want them. That's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for problems. I'm a pass. I'm a pass.

I'm a pass. I'm a pass. Okay. I'm sorry, Ocho. I ain a pass. I'm a pass. Okay. I'm sorry, Ocho. I ain't passing. But I'm going to change your life. I'm going to let you have the sparks and I'm going to let you have that raccoon.

Oh, yeah. We're a good old fried squirrel. Come on. Now you can't. Come on. Come on now. Come on now with the bullshit. What?

So you eating the squirrels? Ride. Ride. Yep. Sure will. Like you talking about the little squirrels that be going across the power lines. Yep.

That squirrels that get the nuts. Man, we had to go back. We had to go. Wait, wait. There wasn't no squirrels within like a two had to go back. We had to go way, way. There wasn't no squirrels within like a two-mile radius of us. We had to wipe them out.

We kept them in a pot. Squirrel and rice? Hey, man, please. I don't know what you're talking about, Ocho. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold,

connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General...

I'm Leon Nafak, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra,

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ocho, USA Today revealed their NFL hot seat rankings. So coaches that are on the hot seat. Mike McCarthy was one. Nick Ceriani was two. Robert Sala was three. Dennis Allen, four. Doug Peterson, five.

Sean McDermott, six. Matt Everfloos, seven. You like the rankings. Matt Everfloos? Yep. He's on there? Hell yeah. Hold on. Let me scroll down to these rankings now real quick.

Hold on now. You see it? Mike McCarthy? One. Understandable. Yep. Understandable. Robert Salah?

I mean, is he really on the hot seat when Aaron hasn't had an opportunity to play yet? I think he might have a little grace. He was there two years before Aaron got there. And again, they'll probably blame the quarterback situation. Okay. Doug Peterson. Ah. Wait, didn't the Jaguars just make the

playoff last year? year before remember they was 8-3 they was the number one seed and missed the playoff Matt Eberflus is gonna be fine you know his job his job is secure he good Sean McDermott I understand I understand. I understand.

But, I mean, God damn it. The fact that these coaches are getting fired because of... Players get cut if they don't perform. Yeah, you're right. You're right. But listen, the coaches ain't on the field. But I tell you what, Ocho, going back to that deal. The coaches ain't on the field.

I tell you what we're going to do, Ocho, going back to that meal. The coaches ain't on the field. I tell you what we're going to do, Ocho. Y'all get them Sparks, road.com, nightcap. That's them Sparks, them rubies. Ocho, I got somebody right now that'll make you a meal. I know people are going to laugh, but y'all can Google it. Bull, dick, and onions.

Hey, you told me about that. I'm good. so you gotta try it oh no oh no you always want me to try everything oh you gotta get me oh you gotta get with the time you gotta lick the toe you gotta do this

you gotta do that but you don't wanna do nothing when you when you evolve and try it and you come back and say, boy, guess what? I tried so and so and so. Then I try your bull dick and onions.

There it is. Even swap, even trade, even swindle. Go look it up. I know y'all think I'm crazy about it. Google it. And see, they got recipes for it too, Ocho. They got recipes for it. I ain't never heard of that.

I ain't heard of it until you told me about it. Google it. They ain't going to believe it, though. Google it. Jordan's Googling it right now. Jordan said, man, when we going back down south again, I want to try it. I know I got one I want to try it. I know I got

one person that'll try it. And Bleacher Report revealed their most underrated team, underrated players at their position. Quarterback was Jared Goff. Running back Chuba Hubbard. Wide receivers Brandon Cook, Darius

Slayton, Khalil Shakir. Tight end Cole Komet. Ocho, do you agree with the team? I like that. I like that. Especially the Jared Goff one. Severely underrated.

Brandon Cook is a good one. Darius Slayton is nice. Nice. Cole Komet. Cole Komet going to have a year. I like it. Cole Komet is going to have a year. Very, very good.

Very, very good tight end. Let me see. Shakur from Buffalo. I guess he's going to try to pick up some of the slack vacated by Stephon, by Diggs. And Gabe. Gabe Davidson. Gabe Davidson in Jacksonville. They lost him too.

I know. I know. I said some of the slack. Pick up some of the slack since those two are gone. Well, listen. Obviously, Shakur showed them something. He showed them something for them to be able to let both of them go. So he's up next.

Him and Keon Coleman are up next. Ocho, the Clippers saw big changes made this offseason when PG, Paul George, elected to lead to the 76ers in free agency. Paul George recently brought his father, Paul George Sr., on Podcast P, which is Paul George's podcast. Paul George Sr. did not hold back when talking about his son's departure. It was hurting. It was like I felt they stabbed us in the back because I thought Paul did a lot

for the team as far as the fan base. The fans was there, and he was there. I think he gave 110% what he was asking. It wasn't a whole lot, but they saw something different. Ocho? I mean, listen, you know, family,

his son, defending his son, business, the Clippers, and what they see and how they value. Value are two different things. Absolutely correct. You're absolutely correct. And that is exactly why whatever Paul George felt he was worth,

the Clippers didn't for whatever reason. Yeah. For whatever reason it may be. It's tough when you think about what they gave up to get him. Yeah. They gave up Shea Gildress. They gave up all those draft picks. They gave up those swap picks.

They gave up a lot to get him. Yes, sir. And as of right now, that, uh... You think it's panned out? Has it panned out, you think? You're for Oklahoma City. Yeah, it panned out for them.

Right. That goddamn Shea Gildress, that's Shea Gildress, Alexander, good, man. God damn. They gave him up. you look at all the draft picks that they surrendered to get P.J.

and only went to the conference finals I think when they went once but that's a lot because Hawaii couldn't can't stay healthy

P.G. couldn't stay healthy the best chance they had was in the bubble and they gagged the 3-1 lead and yeah I know because PG was home he wanted to come home

when Andy traded him he thought he was coming to the Lakers but that didn't happen he goes to OKC he re-signs stays in OKC and then situation with Russ wanted to leave blah blah blah he ends up getting traded to LA so he's home I think he's from Palmdale. So he's

probably, you know, an hour away. So he's basically home. He wanted to stay home. He wanted to stay home. PJ, you got to keep more of your money now, bro. Oh, yeah. LAB taxing, boy. Ocho.

Probably the biggest thing on the internet tonight is what Nancy Lieberman said on steven a's podcast about cheryl swoops let's take a listen to what nancy one of the great female women's players of all time let's take a listen to what she had to say that said you know caitlyn was you know 25 years old she was however 24 years old she was a 50 year senior she was taking 40 shots a game her records were illegitimate. And I got off the treadmill and I called her as a friend and I said, you know, you can say whatever you want. You can have your own opinion about anybody, but you do have to get the

statistics right. I mean, facts matter. And if you just get ahead of this and just say, hey, I made a mistake on my numbers, then this thing is over and everybody respects you for your opinion. And, you know, you might like Boston. I might like the Yankees. You know, it's okay to have difference of opinions. Well, she got upset with me on the phone and I was like, Cheryl, you know, I'm not doing anything to hurt you. I'm just sharing.

We're talking. And so our relationship pretty much is not happening at this point. I tried to talk to her at the final four. She didn't want to talk to me. My life's going to be good or great with or without Cheryl Swoops in my life. I'd rather have her in it. Ooh.

Ooh, shoot. The fact that, you know, there's one thing about women. One thing about women. They will sever a relationship quick behind anything, behind any disagreement. Now, me and you, we can agree to disagree yeah and we're gonna be straight but the fact that the relationship was severed

because there was a difference in opinion wasn't that strong despite the facts not being despite the facts not being correct basically what what miss nancy was saying but But, I mean, that's unfortunate because there have been so many situations where this always happens when it comes to women. I hear these stories all the time. Just in this case, the topic has to be Cheryl swoops Samson about Caitlin Clark. That's not factual.

Oh, Joe. And not wanting to take accountability as well, I'm assuming, huh? If the least thing can cause someone to distance themselves, the friendship was never legitimate or authentic anyway. There's no way. Right, okay. Someone gets off their treadmill and call me and say,

well, Shannon, you misspoke about this. I do it all the time, Mocho. You know, I have a lot of stuff. So I might get someone, they scored this many touchdowns, of stuff so i might get someone they scored this many touchdowns no they had that many or they scored this many sacks or i might mispronounce someone or i might get a situation where the player is no longer on the team even right and a lot of times it's like i will correct myself and say guys before we move on to the next subject i misspoke such and such is no longer on that team is on on that team, he's here. Oh, I misspoke, he had this many touchdowns,

he played this many years, so forth and so on. I'm trying to correct it. Ocho, if somebody tries to correct me and I sever a relationship or I'm no longer on speaking terms, we never had a friendship to begin with. There's no possible way. And I don't get

see this this is what i'm having a hard time with ocho is because a lot of times what i've gotten and i'm not going to talk because i've talked to some of these great legendary wmba players and they tell me shannon don't forget about the old guard. When Magic and Bird, they say Magic and Bird saved the NBA. They didn't say nothing about Will, Kareem. They didn't say anything about Mr. Russell. They didn't say about Connie Hawkins, Elgin Baylor, Jerry West. I don't give her, look, whatever you might think, never in the history, and there have been some great players,

came in with this kind of fanfare. Candace Parker was tremendous, rookie of the year and MVP, and a defensive player of the year. She's great. Maya Moore, Stewie, all of these women were more accomplished college players than caitlyn clark but there's a reason why you had a record watching the wmba draft there's a reason why the record attendance there's a reason why jersey sales and ticket sales are up instead of trying to be dismissive of the role that she's playing and trying to say, well,

y'all not talking about it. Come on. When we talk about Luka and Jokic and this one, they don't automatically go back and start, well, you remember what Bill Russell did? You remember what this one did? They don't do that, guys. Come on, women.

I have a question. Besides their stellar play in college, Andrew Reese and Katelyn Clark, do you also think that everything is magnified and intensified as far as their popularity, especially as far as the game is concerned, because of social media? Well, because they have a following.

Yes, they come in with a following. Exposure from social media? Yeah, because they have a following. Yes, they come in with a following. And exposure from social media as well? For sure. Yes. So the times are a little different when Candace Parker and some of those young ladies were coming out.

I think if social media was at its height back then, I think they would have gotten the same type of love because they were just as polarizing and good at the game of basketball as well so i think the timing for caitlin clark and angel reese is is awesome during the social media era yes but two things can be true those women were great

they were they were absolutely great phenomenal caitlyn clark is a polarizing figure and people gravitate towards her right that's that that is absolutely that that could that that happened it's okay right caitlyn clark's success doesn't diminish what sheryl swoops accomplished it doesn't diminish what maya mo's accomplished. It doesn't diminish what Maya Moore, what Candace Parker, what Cheryl Swoop, what Lauren Jackson, what Stewie, what Asia Wilson, whatever they have done before Kaitlyn Clark arrived. Kaitlyn Clark's arrival doesn't diminish anything that they've done. But the game grow is growing and all these women i'm glad that some of the women i

wish that a lot of the women could have been in and benefited from it because they don't make nearly i mean i think the highest salary you can make is a quarter of a million well those women the cheryl swoogs and the candace parker they were never i don't think they were ever in line to make that kind of money. And it's only going up from here. But I think the thing the best part about what we do is that it's called nightcap. It's over your head. It's directly to my

right shoulder. It's directly over your head. We get to talk about what we want to talk about. ESPN don't control this platform. We wanted to talk about the Olympics. We wanted to talk about track and field. We get to talk about what we want to talk about. ESPN don't control this platform. We wanted to talk about the Olympics. We wanted to talk about track and field. We wanted to talk about what we wanted to talk about. What other podcasts, what other

network talked about it? Just because y'all say, oh, ESPN don't tell me what to say. They don't tell me what to say on our first tape. How are they going to tell me what to say. They don't tell me what to say on the first tape. How are they going to tell me what to say on mine? This is mine. That's why I created it.

Can't fire me from this. We on this. Y'all can't get what happens is, if you disagree with something somebody says, oh, he bought. Oh, he just talking. What? What'd I get? I don't get no checks, but, he bought. Oh, he just talking.

What? What'd I get? I don't get no checks. But see, this is what I don't get. You say something good about LeBron, you bought. But they talk about Kobe and Jordan all the time. So how many pairs of shoes did Kobe send you? How many pairs of shoes did Jordan get you?

So how many checks you getting for saying that Jordan's the GOAT, that Kobe's the GOAT? Oh, only LeBron is paying folks. Hmm. Now, when I had Angel Reese's jacket on, when I spoke, well, Angel Reese, when I tweeted, I tweeted like, congratulations, Angel Reese, Bayou Barbie getting selected seventh overall.

Right. Oh, Angel Reese ain't the only one getting drafted. Now, all y'all ain't saying, oh, Aja Reese ain't the only one getting drafted. Now, all of a sudden, I'm like, huh? So guess what? I'm going to keep talking. Oh, you don't never talk about Aja Wilson. Really, dude? Really?

Really? It's people that watch clips and they don't watch the whole show thank you if you watch the whole show you would know that we talk about everybody all the WNBA players that are playing well

that's it everyone gets their praise but a lot of times Ocho this is how it goes there are a lot of guys, Ocho, this is how it goes. There are a lot of guys in the NFL that play great. Mahone, Lamar, most of the guys, it's the quarterbacks that gets the attention in the NBA. There are a lot of players that go play great.

It's Steph, LeBron, KD, and the big guns. It's not unique. Y'all make it seem like it's unique. There are a lot of founding fathers that built because anytime something that's the NBA is 1947 if I'm not mistaken so almost 80 years.

Okay, now you got the NFL over 100 years old. Sure. MLB 150 damn near 150 years old. Yes! There are founding. There are people that built this. MLB 150, damn near 150 years old. Yes! They're a founding. They're people that built this.

But how is it her fault when she was born? How is it her fault that fans love her? Have there been great players? Yes. Yes. There were great white players before Larry Bird. He just happened to be the best one. Before. Now, when it's all said and done, Nikola Jokic might

have something to say about that. Luka could have something to say about that. And that's okay. That's okay. But I don't get this oh, the old guard, the old guard. All I'm saying is this. People wasn't fanatic.

It wasn't buzzing. The WNBA, and they people didn't talk about it like they do. Instead of being upset about it, I'm a ride the wave. It might not even been my wave, Ojo. But, hell, I'm going to ride the wave. It might not even be my wave, Ocho. But hell, I'm out here on the surfboard. So hell, I'm going to ride it to the shore. You're going to ride it anyway? But Nancy Lieberman,

look, I love Cheryl Swoop. I've met Cheryl Swoop and had a conversation with her a couple of times. Always been great to me. But I don't get, I don't think Nancy said anything that's wrong. Cheryl, you just got, you know, your facts are off.

She didn't shoot this many times. She wasn't this and she wasn't that. Okay. You get upset because you said something that wasn't factually correct and somebody corrects you. And now that's a ground that you're not

no longer you're going to cut off communication yeah I mean and also Miss Nancy could be exaggerating a little bit because what she considers friends you know our people don't really consider friends oh sweetie you're an associate you're

you know what I mean sometimes it ain't really friends the way individual things right yeah yeah like you got my phone number when i see you i see you was cool but thinking like we actually friends like that like come on now no yeah but so i i kind of i i understand i mean but think about it there's a lot of these a lot of great players didn't get an opportunity to play the wmba and when came, you got to think about how old they were. When they got there, they were already in their late 20s or early 30s.

It's not like these women now coming out of college at 21 and 22. It was in their late 20s, early 30s. Damn. Yeah. I get it

you know what it is Ocho you want me to let the elephant out of the room nah don't do that don't do that leave the elephant in there you know what it is yeah leave the elephant in there

it's okay most of the people in the WNBA look like us and they say why they don't get no praise why y'all wasn't talking about them that's what it is let's be real let's be real with it now yes sir And they say why they don't get no praise. Why y'all wasn't talking about them? That's what it is.

Let's be real. Let's be real with it now. Yes, sir. Mm-hmm. It'd have been interesting if they had social media, what would have been said about Larry Bird? Because a large percent of the NBA was, hey, remember Isaiah? Isaiah said it. He called black.

Said if that average was black, he'd just be another player. They thinking the same thing. Kaitlin Clark was black. She'd just be another player. Y'all wouldn't be happy to know, Shannon. Shannon ain't got no money. Hey, Shannon ain't signed Kaitlin Clark to no marketing deal. He ain't gave her no shoe deal. Y'all need to get mad

at the advertisers and sponsors. Don't get mad at Shannon for telling y'all what's going on. I keep a stack with you, Ocho. I see. I get it. They ain't gonna like that one, bro. I'm Michael Kasson,

founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out

there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide and hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No.

It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.

Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast doing, look at the stuff we're doing. Look at the views we're doing. Yeah. Okay. Let me assemble my team. How do we get better? How do we reach different people?

Right. How do we bring more people to watch Nightcap, to download Nightcap? What do we need to do? I'm not envious because it just tells me that there's money out there. Now I just need to find a way. My team and I, we put

our heads together. We studied the trends. Where this thing is headed. It's what we do. I'd never be. Pat McAfee? Once I saw, that gave me hope. That gave me hope that I could do it. He did it.

Yeah. So I was like, okay. I'm going to go. Hey, let me, let me, let me do this. I already got one. Let's create something else. That's why I try to scour, try to find people that, that, that want to work hard. You're not going to work hard. You're not going to work hard.

You're not going to put the time in. I mean, I'm not going to waste your time and implement more important. I'm not going to waste mine, but that's how, but that's how I look at it. Oh, Joe,

there's money out there. Our job is for this team at Shea Shea media. You get paid. Okay. Okay. What's the idea when we have a meeting okay okay where do we need to go what do we need to do who can who can we nurture who can we foster but i've i've never been i'm i'm i i just guess we just why i just wired differently oh joe. I am. That money out there

with Rogan, God, and Alex Cooper, who's your daddy? The Kelseys, P-Mac, Dax Shepard. It's out there. Oh, it's coming.

Yes. Oh. Look at them. What they got in common, Ocho. They bad. Yes! It's coming. Oh! Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Look at them. What they got in common, Ocho. They ain't bad. Mm-mm. It's coming.

I'm going to get it. It's out there. I know it is. Ocho, now it's time for our final segment. Now it's time for Q and A. Q and his A. It's coming. one thing about it and when it come you might not know

but it will be signs Adnan Yankori what's up Uncle Nocho are you guys going to air the Dallas show been waiting for it yes tomorrow night the show is Yes, tomorrow night. The show is getting aired tomorrow night.

We look forward to releasing that and let you guys see it. Thank you, Dallas, for showing up. Houston, Atlanta, everybody that showed up, like I said, late fall, early summer. I mean, late spring. Excuse me, early summer. We're going to go. We're going to probably expand it, open it up for probably somewhere between five and ten shows. fall early summer i mean late spring excuse me early summer we're gonna go we're gonna probably expand it open it up for probably somewhere between five and ten shows and uh definitely

hope we're coming to a city near you alex castinio guys how good was the bus i feel like he doesn't get the recognition he deserves when he's talking about great running backs of all time any good stories i remember i played against bus when he was with the Rams. Yeah, I caught him when he was with the Steelers. I think early in my career. I caught him early in his career. He got the name

to Buss for a reason. He could run over you. He could run by you. You look at him. You're like, man, thatascal fat rascal ain't gonna do nothing okay okay like i said i caught him with the rams right that's all i'm gonna say i caught him with the rams he was like that uh kemp or no would you hey kemp you let me down bro kemp you let me down you let ocho beat you kemp you let me down bro Kemper you let me down

you let Ocho beat you Kemper you gotta redeem yourself bro you gotta redeem yourself that's all I'm gonna say listen I'm a spelling bee champ for a reason man

I can't find my goddamn hat though I know that Real probably threw that thing away uh Kemper Norwood Jr. said uh

who's the team not named the 49ers that has a chance in the NFC to get to the football Packers lions. Rams. Eagles. Eagles, Kyle Eagles,

Cowboys. But I would say, I would say Green Bay first for me. Green Bay, the Lions for sure. Now we start getting Rams, Cowboys, Eagles, but I like what Dan Campbell has been able to build even though I thought he was out of his damn mind when he first got that first press conference

talking about he gonna be biting kneecaps and scratching the claw yeah and that's just that's the same way they plan to bite kneecaps

yeah uh yeah uh yeah everybody but the Cowboys damn it's gonna be very interesting to see we're gonna find out a lot I think the Cowboys open up on the road against Cleveland

right and listen and that's a good test, too, man. That goddamn Cleveland defense ain't no goddamn slouch. That Cleveland defense ain't no slouch. Oh, no, you just wrote that in there, Ash. 84-85, enjoy the show in Dallas. I'm a Dallas officer giving you a correct address to Total Wine's North Central Expressway.

Will Travis Hunter win the Heisman and be a top five pick? Man, it's so early. He going to be a top five pick. I can tell you that. Yeah. The Heisman going to a quarterback, man. Shador might win that. The question is, Ocho, can they win enough games?

That's not fair. I don't like that. Because you can continue to perform at a very high level, and you should still be able to win the Heisman, even if you're losing games. Because statistically... Mm-mm. Because those stats you pileded up they need to impact wins

yeah okay i like it well who else is out who who else out there should win the heisman well i mean look it's one it's one game did you not see what miller moss did for the usc like you said quarterbacks quarterbacks don to have 40 touchdowns, Ocho. Think about, look at what Jay Daniels did last year. Look at what Caleb Williams did the year before. What player going to top that? Bryce Young, 45 touchdowns, four interceptions. Joe Burrow, 60 touchdowns, five interceptions.

Really, Ocho? Right ahead. Down to 6,000 yards passing. Remember who we were throwing to now. But still, so how do you top that? When a quarterback throws for 45, 50 touchdowns with five, six interceptions, and they go nine and three. Mm-hmm. It's hard.

It's going to be hard for anybody other than... Now, they mess around. Let's just say for the sake of argument, they go eight and four. And Trav has 11, 1,200 yards receiving. He has

10 touchdowns. On defense, he has 10 touchdowns but on defense he has you know four picks a couple of fours fumbles now he comes into play now he comes into play yeah i know when he going top five i know that oh yeah for sure so he legit. Hell shit. Maybe top goddamn three. Shit. Uh, J-Dub Akron, uh,

how did you and your siblings get your nicknames? And what was one of your worst rebellious moments as a kid? When you grew up and when I grew up, there was no rebellious moments. Oh no. Like I said, all that, that,

that, or eight, whatever, whatever illnesses that you have now, that kids have now oh parents beat that up at you oh oh he he oh he he's he's just uh you know adhd no when they cut your ass enough it's amazing how all of a sudden they got your attention you can sit down and be still you wasn't moving you wasn't doing all that crazy stuff my uh my grandfather gave uh uh my sister there used to be a commercial uh liby they made they

made canned vegetables liby liby liby on the label label label you will like it like it like it on the table table table and she would always say that and my grandfather they started calling the liby my brother got the nickname spanky my grandfather gave him that gave him the nickname spanky i don't know how he got it but he had that name before i was even born so uh and so that's i mean most of us you know i got an aunt named punky um got one named top so but it's like if you're in the south you got a you're gonna get a nickname yeah if you from the south and i think that's where I got it from, gave a lot of my teammates nicknames, you're going to get nicknames. And they're going to stick.

And no matter, I mean, you get called somebody's nickname so much, you forget their real name. Name, yeah. Because me and Bucket be talking sometimes, but me and Burns, and they was like, man, such and such. I was like, who, what was it? I said, what did we call him in school? What was his nickname?

Or what did we call him on the team? Because I done forgot. I done called him so many times. Hell, I done called Bucket for the last 30 years. I sometimes forget that his name is Darryl. Right. But, yeah, I mean, if you're from the South, you're going to get a nickname. And more times than not, it's going to stick.

It's going to stick. It's going to stick. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy, love the Looney Tunes shirt on. If you guys had to compare yourselves to any Looney Tunes character, who would you pick and why? I'm Pepe Le Pew. I don't even know if Pepe Le Pew is a Looney Tunes character,

but I'm him. Because I love, love. I don't even know if Pepe Le Pew is a Looney Tunes character, but I'm him. Because I love love. I love love, and I love... Yeah. Sometimes you got to chase after what you want. I'm trying to think. Yeah. Pepe Le Pew. Pepe Le Pew, I love you, mami.

Come here. Pepe Le Pew I love you my man come here I want to be Yosemite Sam what I'll be all Yosemite Sam I'm trying to think

who would I be nah you'd be you'd be the Tasmanian devil or I'd be wreckish yeah yeah you'd be

wreckish I'd definitely be the coyote cause they'd be killing him he'd be dropping anvils I don't know how he'd be alive they. Yeah, yeah, you'd be wrecking stuff. I'd definitely be the coyote because they'd be killing him. He'd be dropping ammo. I don't know how he'd still alive. They'd have dropped so many ammo on his head.

Boy, dude, that man terrible. Every time, I'm trying to think. Yosemite Sam, that's a good one. Huh? Who?

Elmer. I'm trying to think. Elmer Fudd. Elmer Fudd always had a shotgun right? Yeah with the two little ass hat on his head

Yeah We got a big bald head with that little ass hat I could be Foghorn Leghorn I say boy I say boy Oh okay okay okay okay yeah the rooster It could be foghorn leghorn. I say boy, I say boy.

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, the rooster. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. Ocho, I know you didn't see this. According to reports, a man from San Diego ran 100 miles to his girlfriend's front door. Aaron Green, who began running marathons just two years ago, came up with a crazy idea to run from his home in San

Diego to his girlfriend's place in LA. The entire trek took 32 hours. Would you run 100 miles to your partner's house? Hell nah. Shit nah. Especially 100 goddamn miles. I don't

care if I am a goddamn marathon runner. Absolutely not. I want to take the shortest route possible. I ain't driving 100 miles. Man, listen. Hey, listen. You know what? Sometimes when you're in love, you do certain things.

And when you're in love, you do things you would never do if you wasn't. And that's one of them. Running a goddamn hundred goddamn miles. But listen, it's a part of what he does. I'm assuming he's a marathon runner because ain't nobody else in their right mind would do that. But it's romantic.

I think that's cute for him, for them, for me. Hell nah. You working with a monster then? Shit me. I'm just saying. I don't care what kind of monster she got. I ain't running no goddamn hundred miles. Ocho, I ain't driving a hundred miles.

Who's driving a hundred miles to a girlfriend house? You know what? I can't even talk shit. Hold on now. Let me back up. Let me back up. Because I take that drive in the beginning. When I first met, I ain't even talk shit hold on now let me let me let me let me let me back up let me back up because i take that drive in the beginning when i first met i ain't even saying the name because we we halfway beefing i would drive i would drive into tampa tampa at the beginning we were alternating going back and forth oh no so i'm trying to think that's the

two that's a two hour and 30 minute drive oh hold on hold on on now. I didn't say I haven't driven great lifts. Oh, okay. I'm just saying you don't you don't know what I'm talking about. Okay. Okay, I got you. But not now. I got you. Not now. Yeah. My back starts to bother me

if I sit down too long. Right, right, right. I got about, I got 30-40 minutes max in the car. Is it? Anything over that, if they got an airport, I'm flying.

When I lived in LA, I flew to San Diego. I live in Atlanta, I fly to Savannah. Right. Can't do it. I can't, hey, no sir. I know it's funny,

I'm sitting here talking shit. I have never done road trips until that individual came into my life. And I thought about it. I looked at the GPS. But damn, from here, Tampa, boom. I passed Fort Pierce. Okay, passed Fort Myers.

Then I only got an hour and 40 minutes. You know, I could do that. And I started enjoying hitting Alligator Alley. I started enjoying it. I stopped to get a cigar get me get me a coffee take that drive put on some sinatra put on some 80s 90s old school r&b yeah old school music and just take that drive and just vibe and then like i had done it so long and been doing it back and forth you know it's like you know it became almost a habit and routine where it didn't even matter.

I didn't even realize how long it took. Yeah, I mean, I a couple of times made a trip to Tampa. I drove to Tampa myself, Ocho. Okay. You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Okay, we on the same page. Now, I ain't doing it. When I was younger, Ocho, I was younger though. I was younger. I was in my teens. I was in my early 20s.

I ain't no no better. Yeah. Well, I ain't doing it no more I done got you now I done got you now and I got my angels up out of you too I ain't driving no more now yeah I was like oh no oh no yeah but you know I done put a couple miles

on the bed Tallahassee Alpo you know road trippy. I like it. Laney Ray said, hey guys, if you guys could have a cameo in any show or movie, past or present, what would it be? Columbo. Columbo. I want to be in a Columbo. I want to be in Columbo. What TV show would I want? I love, boy, I love me some Columbo. I want to be in Columbo.

What TV show would I watch? I love, boy, I love me some Columbo, boy. I done watched it 237 million times. And it just like watching Martin. If it's on, I'm watching. And I'm laughing, I'm excited like I never saw it before. Damn. Damn, that'd be a good one.

I want to be in something with Life, Harlem Nights, something like that. That'd be dope. That'd be dope. I don't know if people want to run me up out the movie. With Harlem Nights and Life, I don't even want to run me up out the movie. You were rolling, huh? What? Because I had to go but I wasn't the only one, Ocho.

You know how like in a movie like that, everybody's laughing so much, you miss a lot of it because they talking and the people still laughing and they still telling funny stuff. Same thing with Nutty Professor. So I ended up having, I bought I went and saw it in the theaters probably like Life and Harlem Nights probably like 10 times. telling funny stuff. Same thing with another professor. So I ended up having, I bought the,

I went and saw it in the theaters probably like live at Harlem Nights, probably like 10 times. And then I went to a matinee when I knew like nobody was in there, just me. Man, them people probably thought

like 40 people was in there. I was laughing so hard and so loud. Well, life is a classic. I don't think, I'm not sure who the directors were, but these movies are iconic. No matter what you're doing,

no matter where you catch them in the middle of the movie, if you flipping channels, you're going to stop and watch Harlem nights, life and coming to America. Oh yeah. Ain't nothing like them, man. Hey,

same thing with Friday. If Friday though, I'll watch it Friday. Friday too. I'll watch it Friday. I don't care what it yeah. Friday, Friday too. I'll watch it. I don't care what it is. Uh, you know,

another movie I'll be watching like that. Oh, Joe players club. Okay. That's a good one. That's a birdie bag. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't, I don't put players club up there with those, those three iconic films. Oh, players club is good, but life coming to America and Harlem nights is it's, it's an, those three iconic films, though. Players Club was good, but Life, Coming to America, and Harlem Nights,

it's in a class of its own. Bro, you got, I mean, in Harlem Nights, you got some of the greatest comedians of all time. Robin Harris. You got Eddie. Robin Harris, Redd Foxx.

Yes! Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor. That's about legends. How could it not be? Della Reese. Yeah, Della Reese yeah Della Reese it was so well written too at that so yeah oh yeah

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