Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: LeBron defends Bronny, Beyonce tops country charts. dangers of dating & AI

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson discuss LeBron James defending his son on Twitter, Beyonce's new single going #1 on the country chart, & the pitfalls of dating an AI hologram. 0:00... LeBron tweets about Bronny James criticism10:30 Beyonce reaches top of charts with new country songs21:00 Wendy’s preparing to test surge pricing model24:30 Woman planning to marry AI hologram based off previous romantic partners - Unc and Ocho think she’s out of her mind30:00 Ocho is a fan of stretch marks aka “tiger stripes” and fupa35:15 Q and Ayeee1:00:00 Much more Nightcap #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:47 Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. LeBron defends Bronny after he's dropped from 2024 NBA mock draft. Bronny was removed from ESPN's 2024 mock draft and has been projected to be picked in 2025. He tweeted and later deleted, Can y'all please just let the kid be a kid and enjoy college basketball? The work and the results will ultimately do the talking no matter what he decides to do. If y'all don't know, he doesn't care
Starting point is 00:03:29 what a mock draft says. He just works, earned, not given. That's reported. And to all the other kids out there striving to be great, just keep your head down, blinders on, and keep grinding. These mock drafts doesn't matter one bit. I
Starting point is 00:03:45 promise you, only the work matters. Let's talk real basketball, people. What's your take? I mean, listen, I like what LeBron is saying. Obviously, at times, it's not fair. A lot of us, Marvin Harrison, myself,
Starting point is 00:04:04 Jerry Rice, you have kids, LeBron, the pressures that come behind with having to live up to the expectations and doing what the fathers did. Yes. All you have to do is work. That's it. Forget the naysayers. Forget all the people. Forget all the noise on the outside. Just continue to grind at your own pace. And when it's your time to shine, you will shine.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Because if you put the work in, no matter what, the results will show up. You don't need to look, I tell my son all the time, you don't need to look like me. You don't need to go out there and be like me. You need to create your own identity and create your own lane in the way you like to do. Whether it be football, even if you don't want to play football, whatever it is you want to do in life, I support you 100%.
Starting point is 00:04:54 But you got to do your best at it. Again, in LeBron's case, with Bronny, it's even different. Everybody's watching. Everybody expecting, well, you're LeBron's son, so you got to play to the standard. You got to have these kind of stats.
Starting point is 00:05:08 You got to do this. You got to do that. But again, don't rush him. Allow him to enjoy. Allow him to grow and groom and enjoy the game of basketball. I think, look, God wasn't going to double bless you. He was not going to give you that talent and turn around and give it to your son.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Right. I mean, one or two things happened. I mean, look, we've seen a lot of players play to have a father-son. Ken Griffey Sr., Ken Griffey Jr. Bobby Barnes, Barry Barnes. Felipe Alou, Moises Alou. I mean, Vlad Guerrero and his son, Vlad Jr. So we've seen a lot of that.
Starting point is 00:05:45 We've seen Archie Manning. He has Peyton and Eli. But Archie, as good as he was, he wasn't Peyton. And my son didn't want that because he didn't want because every time your dad would have caught that. Man, your dad made that play. He just got your uncle. Man, you know how good, man. And so he just did like, no, dad, I don't. play. He just got that. Your uncle. Man, you know how good. Man, you're.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Woo. And so he just did like, no, dad, I don't. And I'm cool with it. I never forced my kids in any direction. Whatever you choose, because I didn't want them to get 25, 30. It says I only did this because of you. Right, right. No, no, no. You did that because of you.
Starting point is 00:06:21 That's what you wanted to do. Right. But I think the thing is, look, the comparison was going to be there. But LeBron has to be careful is that when LeBron, when Junior, Bronny plays well, and then you say, well, he's better than some players in the NBA. Because people are going to remember you said that. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:39 And so that's what you have to be careful. And I understand that's his son. What's he supposed to say? He's supposed to believe that his son what's he supposed to say he's supposed to believe that is that his son is as good as some current NBA players but you have to be careful of that because they're like hold on wait a minute a high school kid is as good as players in the NBA it's not very LeBron you could have said that about LeBron that LeBron as a high school senior was as good as some players in the NBA,
Starting point is 00:07:07 and you would have been absolutely right. Right, yeah. I don't believe you could have, maybe, but if you look at Kobe's rookie year, could you have said that in high school? Maybe. But there was the definitive that LeBron James was better than some current NBA players when he was a senior in high school. No question.
Starting point is 00:07:30 He was 6'9", probably 200 pounds, could jump out, could play all five positions. He was a guard, but he could play the two, the three, the four, the five. He could do it all. But because Bronny doesn't possess his dad's athleticism or size is different and so and plus lebron has to understand bro he gonna get he gonna get strays because of you yeah that's what you have to understand you know the funny thing? When LeBron, even if LeBron didn't say anything,
Starting point is 00:08:06 he going to cast a straight, just in general, just because of who your father is, in general. Yes! Just because. But I think Bronny knows that, and Bronny has the type of temperament,
Starting point is 00:08:15 well, he doesn't really care. He doesn't really care. It's like water, it's like water off a duck's back. You can't. Unless, there have only been a handful of, I think the holes,
Starting point is 00:08:26 Brett Bobby Hall played hockey and the father and the son is in the Hall of Fame. But it doesn't happen. Maybe there's maybe there's like a situation in baseball. I don't know. It's not as Felipe. I know Felipe. He had a brother named maddie and his son moises they all play but i don't know if felipe i don't think moises in the hall of fame i don't think felipe is in the hall of fame or maddie but it's a rarity that you look at kareem you look at magic you look
Starting point is 00:08:59 at jordan you look at jordan yeah i mean mean, come on, bro. You actually think God will give you all of that and give your sons that ability too? Did his son hoop too? I think he ended up playing at UCF. Wait, hold on. It's cold. Let me turn this air down, man. She got me in
Starting point is 00:09:19 the freezing here. Hold on. Baby. Baby. But he's in high school. Let. Baby. Come on, man. But he's in high school. Let him play. He'll develop. He's going to be what he's going to be.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Right, right. He's going to be what he's going to be. But let him be that. Yeah. Because, like I said, it's tough. I don't envy either one because I don't know what they expected LeBron. I mean, my son, I mean, if I had a son that was playing sports and wanted to go to the next level, hell yeah, I'm going to hype him up.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I'll give you an example. My brother said the same thing. My brother used to tell his college teammates, like, my brother is good enough. My brother can start here in South Carolina. He said he could. He would always say, oh, yeah, he's going to play. I mean, it's going to take him a while because he's not advanced because he didn't get the coaching that i got right but
Starting point is 00:10:11 give him a couple years so i don't begrudge lebron for hyping his from hyping his son hell my brother hyped me but obviously our relationship is very similar even though he's not my dad he was he was my role model so everything that he did i wanted to do but i but i get it but people people are looking to i mean i i don't get no i don't get a reason why you want to beat beat a kid up because at the end of the day he's still a kid regardless of who his dad is he's a 19 year old kid i think he's 19 i think he's a 19 year old kid yeah you know some of these people that some of the people that want to beat him up some some of the people that want to pounce are the ones
Starting point is 00:10:46 that really can't find, they're not happy with themselves for one. Yeah. They're not in a position to be able to do what he's doing. Then you have,
Starting point is 00:10:53 you have personal gripes with LeBron himself and now you have another week because LeBron is doing so well there's really nothing you can say about him. So what's the first thing you do? What's the first angle you take?
Starting point is 00:11:02 Take a shot at the kids. Take a shot at the kids. Yeah. So, and I, I never, the first thing you do what's the first angle you take take a shot at the kids take a shot at the kid yeah so and i i never i never understood that why you know it's hard for me ocho to like dislike someone that i didn't i've never met right i mean it's not a lot of people a lot of people like this there's a lot of people like, I ask people all the time. I just, somebody just tweeted me that the other day. It was a tweet. Talk about us. It was just a, it was a nightcap, a night, nightcap clip.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And somebody said, you know what? I like Uncle, but I don't like Ocho. And I tweeted it back like, Miss, you know what? I don't even know you, but I love you. And the fact that, how could you not like me? Like some people that even if you haven't met me, I'm really likable. Right. Like sometimes I might have a punchable face, but I'm a really likable individual.
Starting point is 00:11:55 If you met me before and I greeted you with that hug and fucking bringing in here, acting like I've known you for 30 years and I never met you a day in your life. How could you not like me? I'm so cool. Yeah. And LeBron has to understand it's the same thing that he was saying about Lonzo,
Starting point is 00:12:13 that Lonzo was better than Steph Curry. And people are like, bro, are you serious? The man is an MVP. The man is a champion. And you try to say your son that's in college
Starting point is 00:12:24 is better than him. He's better than Russ. He's better than this. Come on, LeVar. I understand. Hype your kid up. But you're talking about, first of all, there's only 400 players in the world that says I'm an NBA player. 400.
Starting point is 00:12:39 There's 8 billion people. 400 can call themselves NBA players. Now, current NBA players, now you might have been a retired player or you might have played in the NBA and now you're overseas, but I'm saying current. There's only 400 men can say that.
Starting point is 00:12:56 So you saying your son that's in college is better than one of the at the time, Steph Curry was arguably one of the two best players in all the world. but your son in college is better so people like come on LeVar now I understand that you believe your son can play in the NBA but damn
Starting point is 00:13:12 why you had to go to Steph and so that's the approach that people took with LeBron they're like LeBron okay I get it you love your son and we're glad that you're the last but come on bro in the NBA he better than NBA players in high school
Starting point is 00:13:27 that's how you gotta feel about your kids sometimes sometimes you gotta put them up on that pedestal because that's how you feel you know and listen look how they turn they did turn out pretty good obviously he ain't better than Steph yeah he's not better than Steph but them boys
Starting point is 00:13:44 but yeah but Lonzo hopefully Lonzo the one that's hurt ain't better than Steph. Yeah, he's not better than Steph, but them boys do it all. But Alonzo, hopefully, Alonzo's the one that's hurt right now. He's the one that's been dealing with knee issues over the last couple years. But Mello? Mello. Well, young boy, nice with it, boy. He nice with it.
Starting point is 00:14:01 So, that's that. Beyonce's Texas Hold'em has soared to the top of the billboard hot 100 this week prior Texas Hold'em was the first single by a black woman, I said female earlier was the first by a black woman
Starting point is 00:14:19 to reach number one on the hot country song charts an achievement celebrated by notable country music artists and songwriters. Dolly Parton praised Beyonce for topping the country chart. And black country songwriter Alice Randall said that she could retire now after seeing Beyonce's triumph. Beyonce is also the first woman of color. Oh, she isn't the first woman of color in country music other other artists like mickey
Starting point is 00:14:48 guyton and britney spencer have found success in recent years while linda martrick martel blazed the trail as the first black female solo artist to find success in the genre 50 years ago many believe beyonce success could lead to more attention on other black country artists who paved the way at this genre for years. Yep. I knew I knew it was going to happen. I knew it was going to happen. I knew it. I knew it.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Beyonce is one of those artists that can lock in and go into any genre of music and be successful because she has range. She has range. I told you, I've worked, like I told you, I know you don't believe me sometimes. When I was a backup dancer with Beyonce, when I went on tour with Beyonce, when I worked with Beyonce on Lemonade, and we filmed and I was a choreographer for some of the moves that she did, some of the stuff you saw on her tour, on the Renaissance tour, some of that was my shit. Some of the stuff, some of the choreography was my shit. So I already know the type of work she put in and I understood what was coming once she
Starting point is 00:15:55 came out with this album. I knew it was going to happen and you're seeing it right beforehand. This is greatness. You are witnessing true greatness. Once in a lifetime stuff. It takes a special type of person to leave what you're great at and to branch out and do something else. It still be great.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Michael, no. It still be great. No, yeah. But like Michael Jordan says, okay, I'm going to try baseball. He wasn't good at it. But for him to say, I'm going to try it.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Do you know how... For me, I like to stay in my comfort zone. Like what I't good at it but for him to say i'm gonna try it do you know how i like for me i like to stay in my comfort zone like what i'm good at i'm good at talking i can play sports i was good at my hand eye coordination was really good i'm good at talking so no matter the format debate conversation uh uh interview whatever you want to call it i I'm good at that. But you try to get me into something like, nah, that ain't me. So for Beyonce, to whatever R&B, pop, whatever classification you want to list her music as, for her to
Starting point is 00:16:54 branch out and do something totally different, man, ain't very many willing to do that. Ain't many willing to do that. So I commend her. Right. You know, they always say to stay in your lane.
Starting point is 00:17:09 They always tell you to stay in your lane. They stay in your lane. They always tell you to stick to what you're good at. Yeah. But that's the thing when it comes to Beyonce and anything that she touches, it turns to gold. Because she has the range. She has the skill set. She has the artistic impression to do any and everything that
Starting point is 00:17:26 most artists can't do. Which is why she's going to be successful regardless to what angle she chooses to go to. Right. And this is what you're seeing. Now, I'm not supposed to be saying this, but I'm going to say it anyway. I'm going to say it anyway. My team,
Starting point is 00:17:42 Beyonce's team, at some point, we're going to have a tour. You know, we taking the show on the road now. So get your cowboy boots, get your cowboy hats ready. And I got a call with Jay-Z tomorrow. So we're going to see how this thing play out. I'm hoping, I'm hoping I can get some work again with them and do some of the choreography. Oh, you want to do that?
Starting point is 00:18:04 I mean, I was there for the Own the Renaissance tour, so why not bring me back? I thought you was on the Lemonade tour. I was on all of them. I do great work. What you mean? That's what I do, baby. But Ocho, there's like many believe
Starting point is 00:18:19 Beyonce's success could lead to more attention on other Black artists. You know, we really the only community that are asked. Everybody else has gotten a hand, has gotten a hand from someone that wasn't in their community, but only us. We're asked to come up.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Okay, come up with something that can help us how to talk to you and how to treat you. And how can, you know, how can you help your community? Huh? Right. Damn.
Starting point is 00:18:50 So that's Beyonce. Now, I'm happy for Beyonce. And some people do take it upon themselves. Like, you know what? I'm here. I'm going to give back. But we're really the only ones that's tasked to do that. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I mean, it's unfortunate. And it's always been that way. It's been that way for a long time. It's been that way for a long time. It's been that way for a very, very long time. And I just, I think we need to... Y'all still have y'all feelings
Starting point is 00:19:11 about that, uh, about that Taylor Swift, about that Taylor Swift and Beyonce. Oh, they, oh, they, oh, they... They're still in their feelings about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Y'all will be over it. Y'all will find something else to talk about. But go ahead, Ocho. What were you saying? No, I just, we need to enjoy it. We need to bask in the greatness that is Beyonce. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:32 She's a phenomenal talent. But Ocho, who said she wasn't talented? Nobody. Nobody did. Nobody did. But obviously, you know, when it comes to the public and you say certain things, when compared to her and Taylor Swift, people are going to take what you say and twist your words.
Starting point is 00:19:47 And that's unfortunate. And me being me being a high B, I've been a high B for a minute. You know, I support her. I support all their music. Yeah. And I'm just excited for her. I'm excited for her and all she's done. So, man, I still can't believe I mean, I'm one of the greatest of all time. For sure. Look, a lot of a lot of first of all, a lot of
Starting point is 00:20:11 like Beyonce and Aretha and Whitney, they started out singing church in the church. And obviously you have range. You got the voice. But for her, this is, and I look, there've been black people saying in country and maybe the roots in country and black have roots in country, but it's not very many of them because I don't know how many blacks. I mean, I'm sure there's some,
Starting point is 00:20:37 but that's not a, probably a heavy black demographic that tracks in country. I'm sure there are some. Darius Rucker branched out and did what he's singing and then he did country. Charlie Pryde is the one that we all remember. My grandfather loved Charlie
Starting point is 00:20:55 Pryde, but for her to be here in her genre and say, you know what? She probably laid in the bed and say, hey, babe. Like, what up, B? You know what? You like what, baby?
Starting point is 00:21:11 I think I'm going to do a country album. You know what Jay-Z said? What? Baby's going to be number one. Every time. Every time. They say that the chat said they can't hear me. Chat, y'all can hear me now? Yeah, I hear you. Every time. Every time. They say that...
Starting point is 00:21:25 The chat said they can't hear me. Chat, y'all can hear me now? Yeah, I hear you. No, I'm saying... They were saying... Ocho, turn your mic up. Oh. You do realize it's the beehive,
Starting point is 00:21:42 not hive bee. Huh? It's the beehive. That's what I said. I said beehive. You the beehive, not hive bee. Huh? It's the beehive. That's what I said. I said beehive. You said beehive. I did? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:51 It's all good. Hold on. Hey, can y'all. They're putting the emoji up. They're putting the bee emoji. Everybody know what you're talking about. Hello, hello, hello. Mic check, mic check.
Starting point is 00:22:02 One, two, one, two. Okay, they can hear me now. Okay, we good, we good. We're good. I saw it multiple times. Someone saying, turn your mic up, I can't hear you. Yeah, they hear you.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Oh, they got me, they got me. Yeah, we back, we back. They heard you been capping. They heard you been capping from the start. What did I lie about? I ain't lie about nothing. Abraham Sawant said,
Starting point is 00:22:23 Ocho put the cap in nightcap. Well, hold on, Abraham. Abraham, tell me something. I didn't lie about nothing. Everything I've said is through experience and you can Google this shit. What y'all talking about?
Starting point is 00:22:37 Look at Beyonce's album and look at the goddamn credits. You'll see my name. Y'all don't be knowing, man. You do realize that Beyonce keep an NDA effect and so you've been doing too much talking, so I don't know if you're going't be knowing, man. You do realize that Beyonce keep an NDA effect, and so you've been doing too much talking, so I don't know if you're going to be on the team. Listen, the talking that I'm doing is nothing bad in reference to the work that she's done.
Starting point is 00:22:53 You do know how NDA work, bro. That's a non-disclosure. Listen, not what I'm talking about. There's certain things I can discuss or talk about, and I haven't said anything. You can't talk about anything. Yes, you can. I don't think you're going to say anything. How you going to tell me and I work you can. How you going to tell me and I work with Beyonce? How you going to tell me, yo? Because I know people that have NDAs that's like her.
Starting point is 00:23:13 They don't even talk about that they work for them. They don't even mention that they work. We already know. Listen, if you went to the show, you would have saw me at the Renaissance Tour and warm-ups. You would have saw me in rehearsal.
Starting point is 00:23:28 So how you going to tell me? Because, and guess what? It's like I saw you dancing for Beyonce. They're going to say that wasn't me. I'm just telling you, like I said,
Starting point is 00:23:40 I know, but I'm just telling you with people that I know, people that have worked for people. I don't know what people you know, but I'm just telling you what people that I know, people that have worked for people. I don't know. I don't I don't know what people, you know, but I'm not sure if they're as high up the food chain as I am, where I can say the things that I'm saying. Maybe that's maybe that's the difference. You can't say that. Maybe that's the difference. Beyonce, Beyonce lawyers don't tell you they work for Beyonce.
Starting point is 00:24:01 They're not supposed to. Exactly. You you're not supposed to. But we all know who our lawyers are. I mean, you don't have to say it. You just know. Wendy are preparing to test the Uber-style
Starting point is 00:24:13 surge pricing model where prices will fluctuate throughout the day based on demand. Wendy's CEO said the company will invest $20 million in high-tech menu boards
Starting point is 00:24:22 that will be available to update prices in real time. So, you know, like with Uber, like at times of the day that the prices go up or down or there's an event, something going on. So Wendy said, we're going to do our pricing like that. So lunchtime, dinnertime, the price is going to fluctuate. Hell nah. That double junior, that thing better be $1.50 like it normally is.
Starting point is 00:24:52 The Baconator? Yeah. I only know about the Baconator because my little brother got me hooked to it one time. One time I went with him to Wendy's. Obviously, really not my thing. I did it one time. But that junior, is it Son of the Baconator? Is that what you call it?
Starting point is 00:25:07 Yeah. I don't know what kind of sauce they put on the Son of the Baconator, Unc. But man, listen here. They got something with that sandwich there. You eat that double Baconator? Yeah, I did it one time. I ain't been back since. I ain't been to Wendy's in a minute, though.
Starting point is 00:25:21 For real? I can give credit where credit is due. The Son of a Baconator was so goddamn good. I don't know what kind of sauce they had on that burger. I don't know what it was, but it was phenomenal. Now, I don't really like this idea that they're doing... The price goes up or down. I ain't with that either, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Set your prices like everybody else doing. Set your prices like everybody else doing so I know how much money I need right set your prices I don't don't play don't don't flip flop don't don't play I don't want no surge I understand supply and demand set your goddamn price and leave it where it's at I don't know
Starting point is 00:25:56 um what the price of a Baconator or Frosty or whatever that is but I'm expecting if I go in there and I order it and it's like Frosty, fries, drink, it's $5, $6, $7, $8, $10.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Let's just say $10. $10. Man, let me call between $12 and $1 and you talk about $14. I was just in there yesterday. I see stuff like that with turning people away. It causes people not to go to your franchise anymore.
Starting point is 00:26:28 One thing, don't play with people's food and don't play with people's money. Them two different things you can't play with. Now, you play with both of them, one more strike you out. People ain't going to show up to Wendy's no more. Play if you want to. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the
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Starting point is 00:27:34 to please people. Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action, and that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin.
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Starting point is 00:28:48 the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing,
Starting point is 00:29:31 technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Check this out. Now it's time for one of our favorite segments, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:30:01 It's time for Nightcap at the Dark. Let's take a look. Hold on, hold on. Nightcap After Dark. Hey, let me get my shades. Man, somebody said a convoy at Wendy's is $15. What the hell? What Wendy's they go to?
Starting point is 00:30:24 In Beverly Hills? That mofo must be on the moon. For real, they just planted a series. As you're looking it up right now. How much is a Baconator combo, Ash? That can't be real. $11? Oh, the 15-year-old DoorDash.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Yeah, but I figured, like I said, I'm like, okay, I'm just doing the pricing because when I was in Atlanta, I stopped through Chick-fil-A, and I was like, okay. So I was about to say $5. I was like, man, $5, $5, probably about 10, 15 years ago that you get a burger, fries, and a drink for $5.
Starting point is 00:31:07 You ain't getting that no more for that. Shows how much I go in there and get, buy food for fast food. Check this out, Ocho. A woman is planning to marry an AI hologram that's trained using data from a previous romantic partner. Oh, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Not partner, partners. So she got an AI hologram that she's going to marry that took trained data from some of her previous partners. So she wanted a perfect man and she created it. So basically, she going to bill a bear. Yeah. She going to bill a bear using AI, using technology based on something where she can't get no penetration, no physical touch, a hologram. Yeah. This makes no sense. And you will still be left empty and lonely just like those that left you in your past.
Starting point is 00:31:59 What are we doing? What are we doing? Like, what are we doing? Continue to find the man you're looking for. We all come with problems. We all come with bad... I ain't got no problem.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I'm on a solution. I come with solutions. Okay. I understand what you're saying. I understand what you're saying. But, like, come on, man. Marriott, hologram, technology. Like, that makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:32:22 That makes no sense. At some point, you're going to get tired of him, too. You're going to get tired of the Build-A-Bebear hologram of all the partners you've been with and you're gonna get sick of that too and you're still not gonna be happy and then you're gonna look in the mirror and you're gonna realize well maybe i'm the problem because you are the common denominator yeah yeah it's about self-reflecting. Take accountability. I'm the problem. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. Man, I... Man, people... What you think about that? Man, I think she out of damn mind. Man, you know what I think about that. Man, I don't... All that foolishness.
Starting point is 00:33:02 How you gonna marry... How you gonna marry Hollywood? You know what it is, Ocho? Everybody's looking for protection. Excuse me. Perfection. So she's going to take traits from different partners. Okay?
Starting point is 00:33:14 Maybe he had the perfect height. Maybe he had the right personality. Maybe he had a great sense of humor. Maybe he was loving. Come on, man. God dang. It's still a hologram. I know, but I'm saying she wants the perfect because she said, I'm never going to find perfection in one man.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And you're not. And you're not going to find perfection in one woman. You're not. No. You just. The thing is, when you're looking for a mate, a wife, other significant other. You're never going to find someone with all the qualities that you want.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Hopefully, you find someone that has enough of the qualities that the ones that they don't have, you're willing to overlook those. If you got 10 qualities that you're looking for in a person, the likelihood of you finding all 10 are not very good. If you could get the 7...
Starting point is 00:34:06 You might get 7. You get the 7? You might get 7. Now, hopefully, the ones that they don't possess are the major ones that you're looking for. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But if you're going out there and you're going by 10 or 10, you're a damn liar. Ah, please.
Starting point is 00:34:21 That's not even realistic. No, exactly. I think that's one of the issues for us growing up. We're fed, I like to call them lies, we're fed a fairy tale, movie endings, always happy,
Starting point is 00:34:37 and thinking life is going to be perfect in relationships, and thinking the things that we watch on TV, sitcoms, that's not real life. That's not reality at times. Now, can you get those normally? Yeah, in the beginning, it's always like that. In the beginning of everything, it's beautiful. It's peaches and cream. Oh my God, I love him. We're going to be happily ever after. Do you know how
Starting point is 00:35:03 long forever is? Let me take my glasses after. Do you know how long forever is? Let me take my glasses off. Do you know how long forever is? Yeah. You ever thought about that? Yeah. Well, it takes a lot of discipline, man. It takes a lot of work, man.
Starting point is 00:35:20 And it's the kind of work that many people don't want to put in, especially these days, because when something don't work out with one person you're with, oh, you know, we quick, we on to the next. And then the cycle continues to repeat itself over and over and over again. Yeah. Expectations will always steal your joy every time. Yeah. Every time.
Starting point is 00:35:44 But see, it's the way you get the comparisons. Where you start comparison this one to that one or the one before that one. Comparison is the thief of joy. Every time, especially with social media. Oh yeah. You're looking at these pages and you- Oh man, punch your Bible, Joey. ... this nice and she got these bags and she got this house and she got this car and he
Starting point is 00:36:04 got this jewelry and everybody looking this car and he got this jewelry. Everybody looking. Ocho, they be in my town. That's my own shallow. I am. Yeah. I'm like the kiddie pool. I'm shallow like that.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Yeah. I like what I like. Yeah. Hey, listen. It's going to be a rude awakening for a lot of folk now. Stack like all you could eat pancakes in our heart I want to stack like this high Ocho You know what I'm saying Ocho You know what I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:36:29 That's how you want it Yeah I know exactly what you're talking about Listen I'm with you when you're right And I got to be careful what I say Because I got ears not too far from me I know what you're talking about You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:36:40 Yeah Baby Oh nah we good she's asleep You know what I'm saying Oh yeah You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Baby! Oh, nah, we good. She's asleep. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Everybody be, well, perfect. You know, I take a little dimpling. I take a little dimpling on the back of your leg. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Hey, hey. Stretch marks. Yeah! Stretch marks. Listen, the tiger stripes. Yeah, I'm on the back. Ocho, you said, Stretch marks Listen the tiger stripes The little tiger stripes You know what Yeah I'm on the back Ocho
Starting point is 00:37:06 Hold on Ocho You said Hold on You said stretch marks I ain't say please Don't give me no please now I said stretch marks
Starting point is 00:37:13 Stretch marks You know what I'm saying You know what It lets me know It lets me know You're growing a little bit Right right Hold on
Starting point is 00:37:19 Hold on I'm going to take you back now Wait Wait I'm talking about You like the fupa I like the fupa You like the fupa Like the fupa You don't like the fupa Hold on I'm going to take you back now Wait Wait I'm talking about You like the fupa I like the fupa You like the fupa
Starting point is 00:37:26 I like the fupa You don't like the fupa Hold on I like the fupa Because like when you spoon I like to grab the fupa I like to grab the fupa now You don't search that
Starting point is 00:37:35 Look If I press it down As long as it don't pop Right back up I'm good Right You know what I'm saying Let's get out
Starting point is 00:37:40 Let's get out There you go There you go I like the fupa You always She can't hear me You always said You know what I'm saying? Let's get out. Let's get out. There you go. There you go. I like the food. You always. She can't hear me. You always said 180.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Yeah. You ain't a lady. 180. Count your boy in. Count your boy in. 220. I had a plenty. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:38:00 Don't talk that between me and you now. That between me and you in the chat. Chat, don't talk. Don't talk. Take it no fuck. Chat, don't you take it no fuck. Yep. That's us right you now. Now between me and you and the chat. Chat, don't y'all take it no for a... Chat, don't you take it no for a... Yep. That's us right there now. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:38:11 This is... Yeah, man. I got this one here. It's a little project of mine. Yeah. Helping my baby gain a little bit more weight. So right now, I got it about 160. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:24 I got it about to 160. I got about 160. Damn. I got it about the 160. I got it in the gym. I got it on the routine. Got it all, meal preps, everything. I'm going to get it about 180 before April. Damn, man. I like what I'm saying right now, Ocho. You know what I'm saying? Oh, man. She got, man, them stretch marks ain't
Starting point is 00:38:39 bothering me. That ain't nothing. I'm going to rub cocoa butter on the floor. Come on, baby. I'm rubbing the side. I got cocoa butter and everything. I ain't nothing. I'm going to rub cocoa butter on the floor. Come on, baby. I'm rubbing aside. I got cocoa butter and everything. I like all that. I got all that for a mocho. Everything. Cocoa butter. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Ain't nothing wrong with that. Yeah. A lot of fellas are looking for perfection. Hey, man, you know what I'm saying? I had one Ocho look like a bag of oatmeal, wet oatmeal. I was saying it was like that right there. I like that.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I like that. I like that. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Talk about ball, you crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Like that one little bowling ball. You know you had the three-finger bowling ball? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know with that. Like they want a little bowling ball, bowling ball, but you know, you ain't free to think of the bowling ball.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. I didn't know that. That's art. See, y'all don't let them Instagram, them Instagram, them fool y'all. Then again,
Starting point is 00:39:35 all them filters, all them filters, y'all are thinking, ooh, man, look at them. Man, please. A lot of women are ashamed of the stretch marks. A lot of women are ashamed of what happens after having a child.
Starting point is 00:39:48 There are some of us men out here that love, that love the stretch marks, that love all the little nuances of motherhood that God has blessed you with. Some of us don't care. I don't care about that. I had one at college, Ocho. You put that spoon in the window to hold it up. I had to put that spoon up on the stomach to hold it up. Yeah. Yeah, I had to hold it up.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Boy. Damn. Listen, but you. That was before Skims. That was before Skims. They had them pantyhose. They put them pantyhose way up there. And you ain't know.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Man, they took them pantyhose down and everything. Man, I couldn't love it. All right out. We here now. Listen, it ain't nothing like listen i'm talking about the past now yeah yeah it ain't nothing like a bbw boy yeah bought it board you know what god forgive me yeah god forgive me yeah i i like that no more now so you know i'm a graduate you know but Yeah, yeah. You had it hard.
Starting point is 00:40:46 You got my white flag, man. But your jersey hanging in the rafters. Yeah, Ocho. Let me get my... Let me wave my flag. I don't want no problems. I don't want no problems. Okay. Your boy...
Starting point is 00:41:01 You waving two of them? Yeah, yeah, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, ain't nothing wrong with that they be looking at they be looking at perfection but hey a little tiger stripe
Starting point is 00:41:10 you know what I'm saying no that is I'm talking about we talking about art lightning stripe you know how the lightning stripe you look up at the stripe
Starting point is 00:41:16 and that lightning like and it just lands on all over the place yeah boy Lord have mercy there's a certain appreciation that men don't have for that because now Yeah. Boy. Lord have mercy. There's a certain appreciation that men don't have for that because now all the technology, the enhancements, the procedures that so many are getting done. Yeah, they got to jade it.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Like, yeah, the art of the organic, authentic, strict smarts and some of the things that I am accustomed to loving. Well, used to be accustomed to loving because now it's a little different. It's gone. It's gone. Huh? Jordan over here laughed at my bald man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Man, he over here, he crack it up, man. But that wasn't for the time. That wasn't for the time, Ocho. Wasn't for the time. Yeah, yeah. Long time ago. Long time ago. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Long time ago. I'm trying to keep it cute now. Trying to keep it cute. Yeah, yeah. Long time ago. Long time ago. Yeah, man. Long time ago. I'm trying to keep it cute now. Trying to keep it cute. I don't want no problems tomorrow. Damn. Check this out, Ocho. A kilt-wearing shoplifter stuck antiques up his butt
Starting point is 00:42:17 and put them back on the shelves. At an antique gallery in Spring, I don't know where that is, it's Texas, a man was filmed concealing items in a manner described as police in his rectum before placing them back on the shelves.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Reportedly, the items involved an incident of a makeup brush, an antique bottle opener, damn, okay, a piece from a restoration hardware store, hardware, and tobacco tin can. Damn! Another store experienced a similar incident piece from a restoration hardware store, hardware, and tobacco tin can. Damn. Another store experienced a similar incident
Starting point is 00:42:48 with the same guy. The effective merchandise was either thrown away or thoroughly cleaned following the incident. Oh, Cho, that's why I don't buy nothing. I always reach to the back. I never get the first thing there. I go way to the back and pull it out.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Help me understand what's the point. What are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing? What are we trying to accomplish by this? For one, this is an antique store so I would never be in an antique store anyway buying anything that is antique because it sounds like it's expensive.
Starting point is 00:43:18 If it's antique, that means the price tag completely out of my range. Completely out of my price range. Sometimes they just have stuff that's not available anymore, that doesn't make it anymore. And sometimes people just want, yeah, antique. See, people call them estate sales. When I was growing up, we called them rummage sales.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Because you put stuff out in the yard, and people just come rummage through it. So that's what we call it. We call them rummage sales. Now they call them estate sales, where people come and steal the same thing. It's something that they have. Yeah, you're laughing because they know exactly what
Starting point is 00:43:48 I'm talking about. But yeah, that's what it was, Ocho. But now, obviously, people like, people that have really, really high-end valuables, you know, they'll put them up, they'll take them to a consignment shop. Right. You know, and they sell them on consignment, where, you know, the store sells it. It's going to get X and they're going to give you
Starting point is 00:44:06 X. But, man, man, these people, man, people, God, I ain't realize. Ocho, you didn't realize how. The world is crazy, y'all. Yes, you took the words right out of my mouth. Like, no end goal, just out here, just doing stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:23 I guarantee you, I bet it was content guarantee you I bet it was for content purposes. I bet it was for some content. I guarantee you he doing that craziness for some goddamn content. I mean, why he stick a bottle opener up his boogie? You know, I'm sure you can buy a bottle opener. I mean, you can find one of those. I mean, come on, bro. I mean, he trying to be like, that's incredible. He can open a bottle opener I mean you can find one of those I mean come on bro I mean he tried to be like
Starting point is 00:44:46 That's incredible He can open a bottle cap with a booty Bro Listen I guarantee whoever was doing this Trying to create some content Trying to go viral Trying to get some engagement
Starting point is 00:44:57 You get paid for it From my understanding I didn't even know you get paid for TikTok Ain't nobody told me about that Oh yeah for sure So I guarantee he was trying to get paid. Ocho, why you think they be doing this? Remember I told you all these pranks?
Starting point is 00:45:09 And then people be playing, and I said, everybody don't play like you play. You play like that, yeah, yeah, yeah. You throwing water, you in the hardware store, and you throwing stuff over the top of each other, and you look it up.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Man, y'all better stop playing with people. You all at the gas station and all. Man, stop playing. Y'all play too much. You know what's funny is the fact that people are creating stories that aren't organic, that aren't true, just for engagement, just to get paid. Yeah. That's why I don't know. Half the time, I don't think nothing is ever real because it's all made up.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Everybody got a story. Everybody got some type of something that's happening. Or I'm on this date. She didn't want to pay half with me. Or I went out with eight girls and everybody want to spit the bill yeah everything is fabricated yeah everything is fabricated because they trying to get a goddamn check well i'm but i'm saying okay you want to fabricate stuff but don't bring people into your fabrication right now if you got your girlfriends and the guy's like, oh, okay, say you showed up with eight girls
Starting point is 00:46:06 and you trying to get me to pay. That's one thing. But you playing these pranks and you pouring water on me and you, uh-uh, hell nah. You trying to steal my car? I don't play like that.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Right, right, right, right, right. Right. Yeah. Don't, don't, don't, don't play with, don't play with the car. But I'm just trying to figure out, what?
Starting point is 00:46:24 Hell nah, you got to throw all that away. But see, Ocho, that's why I don't buy... The first thing, like, they got a lot of stuff. I always reach to the back. Reach to the back. I ain't getting the first... If it's the last one,
Starting point is 00:46:34 I thought you was going to the stars. Nah, they wouldn't have but one. Why did you get it? Hell nah. It was left up for a reason. Hell to the nah. When you're growing up, you go try on clothes,
Starting point is 00:46:46 the last pair of jeans, man, you know how many ass and balls done been in those jeans? I ain't finna get them to wear up. Hell nah. Hell to the no, man. I don't know. Hell nah.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Hey, that's a good one. That's a good one. Nah, hell nah. I never thought about it like that. Man, you know't know. Hell no. Hell no. Hey, that's a good one. That's a good one. Nah, hell no. I never thought about it like that. Man, you know the Landfair jeans. Do you know how many people done been in them jeans? Yeah. That's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:47:12 When you go to Foot Locker, you go to any shoe store and you try on shoes. Yeah, I done tried. You know how many people tried on your size? Mm-mm. Mm-mm. You get a little footie, you don't never get a little footie sock when you go try on shoes? Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Same, same. But I have my own, I have
Starting point is 00:47:28 my own socks. Man, you know how many damn feet done been in them little footy socks? Hey, this is another thing. Think about when we go to hotels. You know how many people done had them washcloths and had them towels? I could, hold on. I can't remember the last time I even tried on a pair of shoes. As a matter of fact, I can't
Starting point is 00:47:44 remember the last time I tried tried on a pair of shoes. As a matter of fact, I can't remember the last time I tried on something in a store. Damn, you don't go shopping? Shelly ordered it. They sent it to the house. I like it. I keep it. If not, I send it back. I can't remember the last time. I can't remember the last time.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I think it's probably been about seven, eight years I've been to the store trying on a pair of shoes. God damn. Go nowhere. Listen, I'm going to hit H&M. I'm going to hit Zara. I'm going to hit Urban Outfitters. I'm going to hit Express Men.
Starting point is 00:48:16 I got to try stuff on. I can't have you send me stuff without me trying it on because if you send it to me and it don't fit, now I got to send it back. I need to make sure everything is in place so when it's time to wear... You know, people...
Starting point is 00:48:31 I don't sit on that comforter on the bed. I pull that thing back. Man, people that did all kinds of things on top of that comforter. They don't wash that comforter every day.
Starting point is 00:48:40 They wash them sheets every day. They wash them pillowcases every day. That comforter... The towels... Yeah, people that sit on the bed. Oh, no. Hell wash them pillowcases every day. That comforter. Hell nah. I ain't sitting on that comforter. I ain't never thought about that. When I was in college, you ask anybody.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I ain't let nobody sit on my bed. Nah, you finna sit your ass on my bed. I'm the only one that's gonna sit the ass on my bed. You come in there, you sit on the chair or you stand up. Ain't nobody sit on my... Hell nah. Oh, shoot. Hell nah.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Nah. People talking about, you ain't heard of the washing machine? Nope. You can't wash when 20 asses done been in a pair of jeans. Only mine. No. I don't get out like that. Nope, nope, nope. that ain't for me. See, now, Ash, now this
Starting point is 00:49:27 explains why we can't move to Houston. I was thinking about going to Houston, Jordan. Now, they're putting stuff in the rectum and putting it back on the shelf. Ah, nah. They might be doing that with soda. You was finna move to Houston? Huh? Nah, he might be going up and down
Starting point is 00:49:43 the coast just putting stuff in his butt and putting it back on his... Hold on. You finna move to Houston? Yeah, I was thinking about moving. Well, shit, if you move to Houston, I'm coming too, shit. You coming to Houston? Shit, boy, if you moving, shit, I'm coming to Houston too.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Uh, nah. Yeah. There don't need to be nowhere near you. nah. Yeah. If you go, let me know. I don't want to be nowhere near you. You get, you, you have. You ain't going to be near me, but if you moving there, I'm going to move there too.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I ain't going to move nowhere near you. I just want to get me one of them big old houses. They got them down there. They're cheap. I want one of them big because you get a lot of bang
Starting point is 00:50:17 for your buck. And all I care about, I want, I want me some horses. I want, I want me some horses. That's it. No. Uncle ain't got no tattoos. We moving to Houston, boy.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Yeah. Baby, we moving to Houston. Man, you already in a no-stack state. I know. I'm going to get a place out there too, though. Yeah. So then we can do the show. We can do the show.
Starting point is 00:50:43 I can come to your house and we can do the show. Yeah, so we can be right there and have a camera and we can do the show We can do the show Like I can come to your house And we can do the show Yeah so we ain't gotta We can be right there And have a camera And we be like Sitting next to each other And we be like Hey Like what up
Starting point is 00:50:53 You know Yeah somebody said Houston trouble Yeah the Houston trouble It's Houston damn sure trouble How is Houston trouble I've been in Miami all my life Ain't had no issues
Starting point is 00:51:03 Miami Houston Ain't no goddamn business I don't want no problems on you. I think I might stay out here. As a matter of fact, I'm moving to Kansas. Who? I'm moving to Kansas. Where that at?
Starting point is 00:51:16 Exactly. And he talk about, what? They say it's cheap in Kansas. They say we get 30 acres and a 10,000 square foot home for $42. Made for This Mountain
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Starting point is 00:52:46 Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action, and that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the
Starting point is 00:53:21 signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary.
Starting point is 00:53:52 We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, hey, and our last segment of the day is Q&A. Let's take a look. Cooking with KP Candy said, Oh, has anyone used your cognac in a cooking recipe?
Starting point is 00:55:10 I'm going to order a bottle and try some recipes. You'll be surprised with what I come up with, Chef Fred. I'm trying to think. I don't know if it was in a cookie recipe or they did. They did. I think they did drinks. I think they did like drinks. So I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:55:32 But we, we paired it with a Brezza. We prayed, we paired it with a, what's the, what's the pasta? What was that? What was that pasta? They had Brothers that we... Linguini?
Starting point is 00:55:49 Nah, I don't think it was that. It was... The ones about... Jerk chicken pasta? Hey, ragatoni? Yeah, I think that's what it might have been what it was. Ragatoni. Yeah, I think that's what it was.
Starting point is 00:56:04 But you know what? Chef Fred, hook it up and Ragatoni. Yeah, I think that's what it was. But you know what, Chef Fred, hook it up and let me know. Nicole Ziegler said, Uncle Nocho, it's my son's 21st birthday. Please give him a special 21st birthday shout out. Cameron Ziegler. He goes to South Carolina State University. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:21 We're both huge fans. Much love. Cameron. Happy birthday, Cam. Happy birthday, Cam. Happy birthday, bro. Happy 21st birthday. Happy 21st. Live it up. Live it up. You are now an official adult. You know what to do tonight, Cam.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Let me know. I got something down here. Don't speak no English for you, boy. Do something. I'll let you play. Happy birthday to you. Brady Putt hey Uncle Ocho are you guys gonna sell merch with nightcap logo cause I want one we absolutely are we're working on that
Starting point is 00:56:54 it's gonna be up we're probably we're probably about six weeks to two months away from that but it's definitely coming speaking of merch you know what I need to do what you know we don't what you can have you can have your merch right but the merch Speaking of merch, you know what I need to do? What you need to do? You know what would be dope? What? You can have your merch, right? But the merch, let's say we have two separate lines, right?
Starting point is 00:57:10 Think about it. I always wear soccer jerseys, right? Yeah. You can have shirts, polo shirts, t-shirts. But I can have nightcap merch, but in the form of soccer jerseys. Okay. Since like every, you know, tell me you know who this is. Ronaldo.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Yeah, not just any Ronaldo. This is the greatest Brazilian forward of all time. Some people may argue and say Pele, but this is the original, the original Kappa jersey, Ronaldo, when he played at Barcelona.
Starting point is 00:57:44 But I think that's... Man led the team to the World Cup at 17. 17 years old, yeah. Until somebody do that, holler at your boy. Anyway, Cupcake Mama, when your dog pass gas, what do you do? Are you going to put the dog out? No.
Starting point is 00:58:02 He don't know better. Oh, hell no. He don't know better. Oh, hell no. He don't know better. He doesn't. Okay. It doesn't. I don't think that's asking too much. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Babe, can I have a Birkin? Sure. Babe, can we go on a trip to Bali? Sure. First class? Sure. 5,000 and out resort? Sure.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Babe, can I have this car? Sure. And all I ask you to do Is not pass gas in my present I guarantee you I can find I can find 50 women That wouldn't pass gas in my present For the lifestyle that I can provide
Starting point is 00:58:35 And the way I treat them What you think? Talk your shit Just like okay I tell you what babe you can pass gas in front of me But three nights a week I'm going to go out there and do my own thing. Woo! Come on, guy.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Huh? Listen, eating, chewing food is natural, but you don't want people with their mouth open smack it in your face. I don't think it's a large ass. I really don't. Maybe it's just me, but I'm don't. Maybe it's just me.
Starting point is 00:59:08 But I'm okay. And if it's just look here. Y'all make it seem like I'm desperate. I'm fine. Let them know. I'm fine. Yeah. So, I don't think it's a large ask.
Starting point is 00:59:24 I'm not asking you you make it seem like I'm asking you to change who you large ask I'm not asking you You make it seem like I'm asking you to Change who you are I'm just asking you to go to the bathroom Just not do it in front of me I don't think it's a large ask But you know what It is what it is
Starting point is 00:59:36 And now guess what I'm on I'm on I'll find somebody Guarantee you I've been trying to find somebody now for two years. Shit. Carlos Sills said, Ash, buy some fart rocks and leave them at Ups Hotel Room.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Ash said, I got a real good job. I like my job. Ash said, as a matter of fact, I love my job. Derrick Jr. says, what's up, y'all? I turned 25 on Friday. My parents gifted me with Shea by La Portilla. Thank you, bro. I've been wanting to try it for a while.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Hopefully it comes this week. Derrick Jr., I appreciate that. Mom and dad, I really appreciate that from you. Derrick, get back to us and let me know what you think. We got the best tasting BSOP on the market. I believe in it. I stand on that. So I want to thank you for chatting, for tuning in, watching us.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And I want to thank your parents for gifting you a bottle of Chez Balaportier. So hopefully it does come this week and let me know what you think. Jesse said, I just ordered a bottle. I'm not going to get it till my wedding. That ish better be here. Jesse, would I lie to you? It's going to get it till my wedding. That itch better be. Jesse, would I lie to you? It's going to hit. It's going to hit because it hit me.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Man, look here, man. I was, we went to these three or four places on Sunday. Man, I ate me two baskets of bread, man. I had a drug to fag too quick. I said, man, can I get some bread? George said, your boss let your boy, he didn't have to bring you a basket because I need all this to absorb this alcohol.
Starting point is 01:01:17 I was mixing drinks, man. They had your boy feeling some type of way. Anonymous Angel, if she won't let you go to Poundtown without taking a quick trip past Ankleville over Toll City... Hold on, tell me. Wait, word that again? Anonymous Angel, if
Starting point is 01:01:36 she won't let you go to Poundtown without taking a quick trip past Ankleville over to Toll City, would you stay course or take a detour to Hansel and Jobs-A-Vania? I like the way they worded that
Starting point is 01:01:53 like rated G. Rated G, but I understand what he... No, that song there, the song says, I touch myself when no one's around me, that ain't me. That ain't me. Wait. So, that mean you would have to have someone else
Starting point is 01:02:11 to partake in that activity? There it is. But I thought you was single, huh? I don't know. That man ain't dead. Oh, so you so, why you ain't tell me you had somebody oh Joe hello
Starting point is 01:02:27 what I got to do with it so only people that's in a relationship can have sex so ain't nobody so ain't no single people out there can have no sex on well I thought you was like I thought you wanted I thought you was waiting to find somebody first before you so you just be giving yourself
Starting point is 01:02:43 away I charge for this I just be giving yourself away? I charge for this. I ain't giving it away. I charge. I was going to say. They got to pay to play. I hope so. Don't give it away free. Ain't nothing free but salvation. Y'all didn't know? Joel Osteen,
Starting point is 01:03:00 Creflo Dollar, they charge for that. So ain't nothing free. What you doing? I don't know. My mic, man. Oh, there it go. It kept moving. I couldn't figure out why it kept moving. Hey, there it go.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Look at my mic now. Look like that thing had with them diamonds. Hey, Ryan said, take your what I need list and throw them away. We're too busy with those lists. There is so much, there is so much we missed. Just
Starting point is 01:03:37 wait till the right person show and just let you live without. Bro, Ryan, I'm 55. Right. That's not going to happen. Okay, y'all cool with that. Y'all woman passing gas, y'all having a contest, who don't smell
Starting point is 01:03:54 the worst, that's cool. That's not me. I don't force my beliefs on no one. You already know what the expectations are when you deal with me. I'm going, ain't no, man, I wonder if he like
Starting point is 01:04:09 this, I wonder if he like that. I'm going to tell you what I like and I don't like and that's okay. I understand. I'm an acquired taste. I'm not for everybody. And that's okay. I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand.
Starting point is 01:04:27 I really don't. I really don't know. I don't want, I don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand that's not going to happen. I'm never, I'm not, I don't want to say never, but I'm, I don't believe that I'm going to meet somebody that I'm going to be okay with that. Now that has to happen in 55 years. Now, that happened in 55 years and I've been in relationship for 10 years. I've been in relationship for 8 years and 7 years. That's not going to happen. I like what you said, though.
Starting point is 01:04:54 The fact that you just said, I'm not going to say never leads me to believe that there's a possibility even though it's a non-negotiable for you. The fact that you said never, that means there's a special woman that can come along that can sweep you off your feet
Starting point is 01:05:08 and knock you off your socks that, you know what, she might be the one that could actually possibly be the one to use the bathroom in front of you and pass gas in front of you. Let me ask you a question. Name one of the two women
Starting point is 01:05:20 you think I've loved the most in my life. The two women you love the most? My mom and my grandma. Your mom and grandma. I mean, my sister, my grandma and my mom, but that ain't happening.
Starting point is 01:05:32 No joke. Like I said, like I said, there are certain things that I'm willing to negotiate and I'm like, okay, maybe I don't want to go out every, every week. But if that's something that, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:45 hey, Shannon, I really believe that in order for us to stay in a healthy relationship, we're going to need to have date night at least once a week. Okay. I relent on that. Shannon, I'm going to need us to go at least once a year. We're going to have to take a vacation of at least
Starting point is 01:06:02 seven days. You know what? God damn. I ain't a vacation of at least seven days you know what god damn i ain't a vacation guy i relent on that shit seven days shit i'm good what what like i said there are certain things that i'm willing to go share don't you i am right right i'm i'm i'm malleable bendable flexible on certain issues That ain't one of them. And, oh, Shannon, everybody do it. You can get your ass up and go to the bathroom. I don't know what, that ain't cool to me.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Oh, that shows how much you're not, bro. That show you nasty. Lady Ray said, butt cap hold on butt cap fart cap foot cap oh nah these people they be
Starting point is 01:06:56 going crazy like I said it just it just lets me know that y'all y'all do y'all thing y'all do y'all thing hey whatever look Ocho what's normal? It only depends on who's in the relationship. Because their normal ain't my normal. My normal ain't their normal.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Cool with that. I'm not normal. I just, listen, I ain't got me and my people. We ain't got no boundaries. We ain't got no rules. We ain't got no rules. I mean, just between us. Everything goes.
Starting point is 01:07:30 And I'm trying to Hey, listen. In here, boy, it's like WrestleMania. You hear me? Yeah. I'm coming off the top rope. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Off the top of the cage. Yeah. Man, we got this zip ties, handcuffs, blindfolds. Cup up. Hot candles, wax. Everything. man we got zip ties handcuffs black holes hot candles wax
Starting point is 01:07:46 everything a swing set you have the right to remain silent anything that you say can and will be used against you you have the right
Starting point is 01:07:55 to an attorney if you cannot afford one one will be appointed to you all that old joke yeah okay yeah okay we on the same page then
Starting point is 01:08:03 yeah come to the house? Hey, nothing but a top coat. Yeah. And it better hit the floor by the time you reach the top of the step. Butt ball. There we go. Now we talking. Yeah!
Starting point is 01:08:17 Now we talking. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Yeah. I'm like you, AJ. I'm trying to figure out who's dating all these gas-ass women, but damn, sir. Who just, I mean, what woman just come around and just let it rip?
Starting point is 01:08:35 Where the hell y'all at? She in there. Nah, man. Uh. Uh. She in there? No, man. Yeah. That's, yeah. Faye said,
Starting point is 01:08:56 my grandma called it breaking wind. There was no faster way to get sent into the tree and pick us with, oh yeah, my grandma didn't play that. And the thing was, Ocho, I grew up in a house full of women yeah so that was oh no oh no mars said uncle no joke can you shout out my four my girlfriend of four years for a birthday her name is rayanne also one of your favorite amusement park rides and why uh rayanne mars wants to wish you a happy birthday y Y'all been together four years.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Hopefully you get four more together. No, hopefully you get many more together. But hopefully these four years have been great for both of you guys. And Mark, thank you for watching and listening. And Rayann, hopefully you have a great birthday and many, many more to come. What's your favorite amusement park ride? Man, I had, oh Lord, hold on Ocho. Let me think.
Starting point is 01:09:47 While you're thinking, I'm going to tell you my favorite. The Dade County Youth Fair that comes to Miami. It will be here in March, I think maybe March or April. So it's coming up. I'm not sure. I go every year, but I haven't been on rides in a long time. But my favorite ride growing up was that goddamn double loop. That goddamn double loop.
Starting point is 01:10:07 If anybody's in the chat that's from Miami, you know exactly what I'm talking about. The double loop. One of my favorites. Man, Ocho. The last time I went
Starting point is 01:10:19 to an amusement park. Probably about... It had to be when the kids was young, huh? Probably about It had to be when the kids was young, huh? Probably about 22 years ago. Yep, I figured that. I knew he was going to say that. I've been a little bit more recent because obviously because of the kids ranges
Starting point is 01:10:37 as far as age goes. So I've been consistently going all the time as far as youth fair is concerned. Universal Studios, Epcot, consistently going all the time as far as the youth fair is concerned uh universal studios um epcot i mean i used to go to kids i used to take the kids all the time we go to six flag we get there early in the morning when they first open up and yeah hey get on the ride the ride stop hey we stay on it we just ride ride we go in the free fall we go to the batman i'll do all the rides but you know all of a sudden like on the free fall. We go to the Batman. All the rides.
Starting point is 01:11:06 But, you know, all of a sudden, it's like, Dad, we don't want to go to the amusement park. We don't want to go to the Six Flags. Yeah, no, no. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, they added that.
Starting point is 01:11:14 I can't think of other... What was all the... Wait. Epcot, Disney World, Disneyland, Kingdom. What? I forgot. Magic Kingdom.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Magic Kingdom. That's what I was trying to think of. Magic Kingdom. Magic Kingdom. I go there, man. Kingdom. What? I forgot. Magic Kingdom. Magic Kingdom. That's what I was trying to think of. Magic Kingdom. Magic Kingdom. I go there, man. We get that fast pass with all them kids. Man, you know, we'd be deep looking like a goddamn army brigade or some shit. Walking through there, going through the lanes. I miss those days. Now that everybody in goddamn college, man. Everybody going to school. Yeah, my kid grown.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I got a grand now. The kid grown and the things that used to like, Dad, you remember we used to play Monopoly? Now me and my daughter play Uno. She be cheating. Kayla be cheating. Yeah. The rules said you can't put two draw twos back to back.
Starting point is 01:12:03 No, you can't. You can't do that. Man, she put like six draw twos on me and a draw four back to back. No, you can't. You can't do that. Man, she put like six draw twos on me and a draw four and a reverse. No, wait a minute. At one time, yes. Not throw one draw two and then you go and then another. No, no, no. She's just like draw two, draw two, draw two,
Starting point is 01:12:18 draw two, draw four. No, you can't do that. That's what I tried to tell her. Kayla, see, you be that. You can't do that. That's what I tried to tell her. Kayla, see, you be cheating. You were cheating there. Yeah, she cheat. She got you. Fan.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Fanted it. Fanted it. Fan it. Fanatic. Fanatic. Uncle Nocho's a huge fan. I just turned 30. Can I get a shout out for some advice from leaving 20s,
Starting point is 01:12:49 going to your 30s? Hey, congrats, bro, on the birthday. Leaving the 20s, going to 30s. You got to figure it out now. I mean, hey, you had your teenage years. You said, okay, you got your 20s. You got your 20s now. Yeah, 20s, 30s.
Starting point is 01:13:03 A different ball game. Tighten up. Yeah, yeah. When I was 30, man, what was I doing when I was 30? But that was a long time ago, boy. Boy, I'm 56 now.
Starting point is 01:13:14 I can't even remember my 30s. That was 20-something years ago. I remember. I remember July yesterday. I remember 30. I remember 31. Woo! 19.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Where they gonna find that? They doing everything else. They cloning and they doing all this. What a drug that can make me 19. I got five million. When they say I got five, I got five million on it. What about where they freezing people's bodies to bring them back later on in life? Nah, they ain't freezing nothing.
Starting point is 01:13:45 I'm going to stay right here. You saw that? You see that? Yeah, I saw it. That cryo. Cryo. I didn't want to be 19. Okay, Ocho, I give you five million.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Let me be 19 for six months. Well, I'm trying to figure out what it is you want to do at 19. You know what, Ocho? I'm going to do out What it is you want to do I tell you what Ocho You know what Ocho I want to do one better Especially in 19 Especially in this time
Starting point is 01:14:09 During these times Ocho 19 You know six months too long 30 days Like run DMC If you find you don't like my ways You can send me back in 30 days 30 days
Starting point is 01:14:19 That's all I need 30 Nah but you're going to need more than that. I ain't. There'll be no nightcap. There'll be no club. Shea,
Starting point is 01:14:29 shea, no appearances on ESPN for 30 days. And you 19 again. I'm 19. We have a good time. What? I can't even.
Starting point is 01:14:41 I can't even remember. Earthquake every day in Cali. Upgrade Kings at nightcap. Hooking on your live show in Los Angeles would be amazing. What y'all think? We're definitely trying to possibly look at some dates
Starting point is 01:15:13 before the season starts going to roll. We're looking at like a four city tour. We haven't decided which cities yet. We're still trying to work through that. We've been in contact with a couple of people to help us navigate that.
Starting point is 01:15:34 I could give you the cities real easy right now. I could give you three off rip that's going to do that, but do numbers. What? The venue is the only issue. Miami, everybody need mama coming out. Atlanta Miami everybody need mama coming out Atlanta everybody need mama
Starting point is 01:15:49 coming out Houston everybody need mama coming out and obviously LA is one um I mean those those first three I just named. New York. We have a really big following in New York. Yeah. Philly, we have another big following. But Philly is close to New York, so I don't know how we do Philly and New York. Obviously, Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Houston. We have a big following in Houston and Dallas. Los Angeles Obviously Atlanta Yeah New York New York is our biggest Is our biggest base But we're definitely trying to put the four Where's Carnegie Hall at?
Starting point is 01:16:43 Carnegie Hall You know where it is? I'm just asking New York bro Uh-huh. Where's Carnegie Hall at? Carnegie Hall. You know where it is? I'm just asking. It's in New York, bro. It is in New York, right? What you mean, like the direct location? Huh? No, I mean, is Carnegie Hall still in New York
Starting point is 01:16:55 or has the name been changed or something? No, it's not. No, they're not. No. Andrew Carnegie put enough money up that thing will be Carnegie Hall in two, three more lifetimes. Right.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Yeah. I would love to do something in a place like that. Somewhere where Frank Sinatra performed. They ain't letting us come up in there. So we got to pick a new venue. Unc'n Ocho at Carnegie Hall. Can you imagine that?
Starting point is 01:17:21 Actually, no. Man, I better be lying. Listen, I know people now, I can make that happen. Nah, Ocho. Listen, Uncle Ocho at Carnegie Hall. Yeah, that sounds like- Think about that. I can see that on the marquee right now on the outside. Uncle Ocho live at Carnegie Hall.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Uncle Ocho at Town Hall. That's the hall. Hey, please make sure y'all hit that like button. Make sure you hit the subscribe button. Where are we now, Ash? I think we hit 1.1, Ocho. Boy, we moving, boy. We moving.
Starting point is 01:18:03 We moving on up like the Jeffersons now. Yep, 1.103. Please make sure you subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Please. That's again, please make sure you subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Thank you guys for selling out Chez Balaportier. We're taking pre-orders and they tell me one to two weeks you'll have your order. So thank you again for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.
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