Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: LeBron's big night, Ocho remembers "Hurricane Paula" 1

Episode Date: April 1, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss LeBron's big night in a win against the nets, Ocho remembers the life of his mother "Hurricane Paula" and much more! 0:00 LeBron drops 40 points in win vs Nets6:35 Kobe’s father sells championship ring that was gifted to him for $927K18:50 Which 2 pills are you taking?26:00 Man borrows 10K from girlfriend, he wins $100M and she requests $40M33:50 Spell-O-Cinco43:00 Dunk on Unc54:30 Q and Ayyyyy1:00:00 Much More Nightcap! #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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but Go James dropped 40 points with a career-best three-point shooting performance to lead the Lakers past the Nets. LeBron James went near perfect. He was 9 of 10 from behind the arc. And the one was a running three-way. He took off running to the left corner and let that thing, bam!

He would let them go from Central Park. But he said, that's not enough. Then he went to Sag Harbor, which is up in the Hamptons. He said, that's not far enough. And then he let one go from Ithaca. I said, God, doggone go James. If you know what, I should have patented

that. Because I am the first to ever call that man Go James. And now you see everybody in goat suits, everybody wearing goat masks, goat antlers. I gave him that name. You think he was the first? Look it up.

I guarantee you never heard anybody refer to him as Go James until I did. Until you did? That boy dropping 40, man. Hey, you know what I'm saying? And I got old Goat James. Look at him.

That Goat James right there. Oh, so you got his... So you kept his phone code too? I got old Joe Goat and Goat James Goat. Phone code. Hey, you might... Are you going to ever

give us our stuff back? Come on, man. I bought this. What you going to ever give us our stuff back? Come on, man. I bought this. What you mean? Somebody sent you that by accident? How you accidentally send something to somebody? You ever send somebody something by accident? You bought the LeBron one or you bought...

I ask you a question. Have you ever sent somebody... I guess you, I bet you ain't never deposited no money in somebody's account by accident, did you? Oh, no, I never do that. Okay, hold on. But sometimes, back in the day, you ever send a text message to the wrong person? Yeah.

By accident? And back then, you couldn't understand back then. You have no idea. That weren't for you. Oh, my bad. Yeah, so... Hey, wait, hold on. Who they played? They played the Nets LeBron who's

in his 21st season of the league then handed at the end at the end of uh at the end of his career after the game he was asked how much longer would he play he said not very long I'm on the other side obviously of the hill uh I'm not going to play another 21 year well we know that that's for damn sure not very long I don't know when that door will close as far as when I retire, but I don't have much time left. How you on the other side of the hill at 38-39 and

dropping goddamn 40 against the Nets? You 9 for 10 from 3, but you're on the other side of the hill. I don't know what hill he on, but Jack ain't on it. Hey, you ain't hear that bar, huh? Yeah, I heard it. I don't know what hill you on, but Jack ain't on it. Hey, you ain't hit that bar, huh? Yeah, I heard it. I don't know what hill you on, but Jack ain't on it. Yeah.

Jack fell down. Hey, but here's the thing. He got that 40 on 17 shots. Damn. That's incredible. That's incredible efficiency. Right. I mean, he,

look, he saw it going in. And like he said, he said, now I'm able to get on the court and do things in between games. So I'm able to keep my rhythm. He's shooting like 40% from the three. Right.

I'm making his free throws. He, look, he's still going to be able to get downfield. I'll get downhill. The question is, Ocho, how much longer does he want to keep up this kind of maniacal training?

How much more time does he want to keep up with this maniacal dedication? Because that's what it comes down to, is that how much longer does he, how much longer can he keep his mind sharp? And will there be other things that interest him? Because, you know, Kobe body started to break down. But then Kobe started to see like, man, you know what? I kind of want to do it. I want to kind of be in the movie thing. I want to do this short and animated features.

I want to do that. And he had the same kind of passion. Can LeBron develop a passion? For something outside of basketball. Right. I mean, what would that be, too, when you think about it? He has a production company. I think his production company, they got to do three features.

I think one with Jesse Owens, one with Jim Thorpe, and another to be named later. Right. He was phenomenal. They played phenomenal. The game really, a part of me was sad that that game should have been over. Ocho, they played great. They were up

by like 26 points, and then the Nets cut it all the way down to eight, and LeBron should have been on the bench, but if he had been on the bench, we wouldn't have saw this virtuoso because he scored 17 points in the fourth. And they needed all 17 to withstand because Cam Thomas started to heat up. Right. And so they started to turn the ball over.

That's what really got him in trouble in the third, is the turnovers. And that's crazy, man. When I think about it, I sit back in hindsight. I look at some of the great basketball players in our era. Think about some of the friends I know, some of the players like LeBron himself and Westbrook and the D-Wades. And I think during my time in my era when those individuals were in their prime, and you know me, I like to do everything. I like to challenge everybody. Obviously, as you can see, when people come on the show, I love it. But the fact that I used to consistently beat LeBron one-on-one in competitive games at the YMCA, it's crazy to see what he does in a structured environment in five-on-five or just dominating the NBA for 21 years. I'm like, but I'm saucing you up in the gym

doing 1v1 situations, which is not structured basketball because it's five on five. But I mean, I just sit back and think about that. And I kind of, I don't know, I just kind of pride myself on my game and thinking like I could have went to the NBA, but I chose football.

I think everybody glad you chose football or joe yeah colby bryant's 2000 nba finals ring sold for a record 927 000 at auction sold yeah who would say who would sell his ring his father the sale broke the record set by Bill Russell's 1957 championship ring, which sold for $705,000 in 2021. I guess Kobe parents had fallen on hard times, and the ring that he gifted his dad ended up on the trade market. Now, we shouldn't be surprised by this because they started hawking his stuff while he was alive.

They were selling his high school memorabilia, his trophies that he had won uh and things of that nature so i don't think anybody is surprised by this i know i'm not so kobe's parents they didn't they didn't get along he didn't get along with mom mom and pops i guess i don't know the backstory i don't know the backstory i guess i mean kobe kobe started dating van Vanessa shortly after he got to L.A. Yes, sir. They ended up getting married. Yes, sir. Shortly, and if I'm not mistaken, I think the crooks of the argument,

now, I don't like to speculate, but you hear things that he got married without a prenup, and his father being a former NBA player, said, son, that's a career suicide. But he did it. He was in love, and he did it. And the mom and dad didn't go to the wedding. No. So I don't get it.

Everybody's like, well, Kobe. Bro, so you don't show up. I mean, your mom's alive. You and Rel, your mom's alive. Your mom and grandma don't come to the wedding. Obviously, Rell's going to feel some type of way. You're going to feel some type of way. But you won't, okay, well, Vanessa should have just put that aside.

Right. Huh? A lot of times people say things they would never do themselves. Right. Oh, you just let that slide. Oh, you turn the other cheek and that's that's tough though um yes i'm i'm thinking i'm thinking like it's bad enough me and hurricane paula we didn't we didn't see eye to eye throughout the years it is it's bad

but this is a situation that's not about you that's not your wedding that was not colby and his mom's wedding that That was their son wedding. You couldn't swallow your pride. You couldn't bite your tongue. So you know what, son? I don't agree with that. But I love you. I love you so much.

Right. That I know how important this is for you. That day, especially that day. Oh, yeah. I didn't know it was that bad. I don't know. I don't. I know it was that bad. That's know I didn't know it was that bad you want

of all people when you get married you want your mom and your dad there you want your mom and your dad there and if they made the conscious decision not to show up and I know knowing how Kobe is Kobe nah Kobe ain't gonna forget nothing now

he ain't gonna forget that he got that MJ in him. Yeah, he cutthroat with it. You're wrong one of them, bro. Hey, you should go ahead and take that to the grave. Oh, yeah. Might as well. You should go ahead and take that to the grave. So, like I said, I don't really know the totality. I mean, look,

without... Unfortunately, Kobe is not here to give his side. Basically, you would need to have both parties and they can all both say, OK, where did this split come from? What caused this rift between Kobe and his mom and dad? Because, I mean, if the likelihood, Ocho, if you and your mom aren't cool while you're alive, the likelihood of the wife or the in-laws becoming cool is once you,

but that's not very likely. No, not at all. Because the only thing that could have bridged you guys was Kobe when he was alive. Mm-hmm. And now, Kobe, look, you know how it is sometimes you start

falling in love and you repeat things you tell real things the hurricane Apollo the said and she gonna feel some type of way

so that's like whoa whoa whoa there's one thing about hurricane this is why she was called the hurricane she ain't gonna tell me nothing

she gonna text real and tell herself oh she gonna tell real huh yeah we'll cuss her boy we'll cuss real ass out, boy, in a heartbeat. Listen, my mama, oh, I miss my baby. I want to show you something real quick.

My mama passed away in 2021, right? Right. I didn't even get to say goodbye. I didn't get to say goodbye, but the way she has always been throughout the entirety of my life is the fact that we had a thing, my brother and I, where you're not a friend of mine. There's no

way you're a friend of mine if my mama hasn't cursed you out. If you haven't been cursed out by my mama, there ain't no way you're really my friend because you ain't been around long enough. So my last messages, and I could show you. Oh, shit. You're going to have to tilt it because the camera

is the light. It won't show? Yeah, because you got to understand the light. So you're going to have to tilt it so we can... Damn. I don't know how to do it. But, hold on. No, we can't see hey the last messages from her

is me of her cursing me out no put your mic hey the last messages from her I still got them it scrolls as long as hell I know you can probably you you see me scrolling, right?

Yeah. You see I'm still scrolling? And you see, you don't see no response from me. Oh, there we go. A happy birthday. Man, listen, um, and it just felt so right, the fact that I wasn't able to say bye because I wanted to remember her and

what I knew best. Her cursing me out, my friends out, Cussing Rell out, Cussing Nose I Have, Kids From Out. Hell, Cussing My Kids Out. That's why she got that nickname, Hurricane Paula, because everybody can get it.

Everybody can get it. But that's my baby, though. But I couldn't go to that extent and just completely cutting off my mama. I would always have to keep some kind of communication for the fact that Kobe was able to do that. I mean, that's, oh, shit. It hurt him. It's crazy.

I think what hurt him, I mean, because I read what Steve and they said, the thing that hurt Michael Jordan the most is when Scotty didn't send him condolences for his father tragically losing his life. Wait. Okay. You know, there's a source of contention there between Michael and Scott. Okay? Just imagine, on your date, you taking someone's wife, you taking someone's

daughter's hand in marriage, you want everybody, don't nobody else come. If you ain't got no friends, you want mom and dad. Mom and dad, yeah. And they choose not to come. Now, overlook that. Basically, your mom and dad gave you on the day that Kobe

was probably the happiest. Mom and dad said, nah, we're not coming. Okay, now why are you alive? I done bought you. I done gave you this, gave you that, gave you a house, blah, blah, blah. Come to find out there's an auction going on. Kobe Bryant's high school memorabilia up for auction.

Come on, man. I don't care. Every man has a breaking point. Every man has. Everybody say, oh, mama, yes, yeah, there are certain things that your mom and your dad could do to you that you yes yes it would cause you to pause so stop it just because your mom or dad hasn't done that you see i'm gonna believe this i am ocho i will never say what i won't do because i haven't been in every situation right all you can do is say what you've done in

situations that are similar because a lot of times when I try to when I try to talk about things that in a locker room, I've been in similar situations. Has certain things happen to be a high school, college or the NFL or things that have happened in my life? So I'm speaking from firsthand knowledge or from a personal experience or being around a situation. Right. I mean, that had to have hurt Kobe. Mm-hmm. Not that you didn't. If it's a secret wedding, we run off in a load, we didn't want you there. But if I tell

you this, and you choose not to come. Right. That hurt. But that's the... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So, I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad this is this is over. They got nine hundred twenty seven thousand. The auction house probably takes what, 33 percent of that.

And man. Yeah. So they keep nine twenty seven. OK, they keep 927? Okay. So they got, so hopefully that, that, that will sustain them because I don't know if they got anything else

to, to, to sell. Do you think, I mean, even though it's not Vanessa's responsibility, do you think she will ever

try to make amends and bring everything, and bring everything back full circle? As far as no, obviously the grandkids. Is Rel mom alive? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

She told Rel and you know how she felt about you. I don't know why you married that man. That man got eight, nine kids, blah, blah, blah so forth and so on. He did this, this, this. You trying to make amends? Okay, I see where you're going with it. The wedding come. I ain't going

because I don't agree with you marrying him, Burrell. So, she not coming. Shit. You better agree to marry this. Shit. Fuck. Ain't nothing else out there

I can talk about. So... Yeah, I see. When you put it like that, well, hell, that's a hypothetical and that hurt me. It hurt me a little bit.

Now, that stung, man. Shit. Also, Ocho, I think the thing is, who knows? Time can heal a lot of things. And maybe 10 years or 15 years, Kobe would have had a, they could have had a reconciliation. But Kobe didn't get that chance. You know who might bridge the gap? 10, 15 years.

The kids. Maybe. The kids might do it, you know, once they're older. But it's hard, Ocho, when you don't have that connection. I mean, think about it. I don't know when was the last time, I mean, they haven't had any communication since 2013. God damn.

So, it's 2024. The oldest daughter, the oldest daughter is probably 1920. So, she hadn't seen them in 11 years. So, that's nine years. The other kids,

the other girls weren't even born. Right. But do you understand how kids and minds work? Curiosity? Yes. The feeling of the unknown

of wanting to scratch that itch to see what could have been, what I've missed. Grandparents are important. I mean, they are. I mean, missing the majority of your life, but still just wanting to fill that void and what was never there. I remember. And if I'm not mistaken, I think Vanessa and her family are estranged. Her mom tried to sue her.

Huh? Yeah. What the hell they got going on? But I guess, you know, I guess, I guess, I guess. But the people in the chat go say, yeah, if my mom tried to sue me and take me for five, ten million dollars, I'm going to still love my mom anyway. Because, you know, we got people in the chat like, oh, there's nothing my mom or dad could do to do me to ever make me change my mind well i tell you what let let a family member try to sue me and i'll show you after all i've done yeah that's all i currently do but sometimes that don't even cross my mind yeah i i knock on wood me and my brother my sister we are extremely close i'm close to the

close do we agree on everything? Hell no. I don't agree with everything he says and does. That's called we're adults. We have our own minds. We're allowed to think a certain way. But no, I just I don't know, Ocho.

Ocho, check this out, Ocho. We got the pill. You can only pick two pills. Okay. Oh yeah. You see what you got. Tylenol. The first pill look for you can look 15 years younger. Okay. Read mine for three days. Okay. Pill three forget your ex.

Pill four eat without gaining weight. Okay. Pill five add 5 centimeters to your height. Peele 6, become super strong. 7, have a lot of money. 8, always

feel happy. 9, get millions of followers. You know what's funny? And those that are in the chat, if I like this. I like when we do stuff like this. Because if you think about it, I'm 56, but I look 23. And I got a new camera.

I don't know if y'all notice how clear I am. You can see I look young. So obviously, number one, I don't need number one. Number two, I don't need to read nobody's mind because I got common sense. And if you pay attention to body language, it tells you all you need to goddamn know. I don't have a problem forgetting my

exes because they are exes for a reason. No ill will in that area. Eat without gaining weight. Oh, I'm 150 pounds. I thought you were 220, but okay, lost weight. I was, I was.

That old Zippy. I was 225 last week. You on that old Zippy, huh? Hey. Add five centimeters to my height, I'm already 6'4". I don't need to be no taller. Right.

Become strong. I'm already strong in a sense for what I have to do. So, I don't need no more goddamn muscle because I ain't playing no football. Have a lot of money. I do all right for myself. Yeah, yeah.

I do all right for myself. So I'm good in that area. Always feel happy. But I ain't been angry in years. I ain't been angry in years. And I'm always in a good fucking mood. I need them followers. I'm going to take them followers in a good fucking mood. I need them followers. I'm going to take them followers.

Yeah, I'm going to take them followers. I'm taking seven and eight. I want to take them followers and I want to add them to my goddamn show. I don't want to look no 50. See, if they tell me I can be 15 years younger, that's one thing. But to look 15,

I'm still going to be 56 in three months. Nah, I need to be 15 years younger. I need to be 31. Which two you pick? I'm taking seven and eight. Seven and eight? Okay, I'm taking... You know what?

I'm going to take five and nine. I'm going to take five and nine because I want to know what it's like to be six, eight. To do what? To hoop. Ocho, you do realize you're 56. Ain't no 56-year-old 6'8 hooping. You could have used that years ago.

You should have used that 30 years ago. The pills should have came out 30 years ago. Oh, my bad. So you're just going to be a tall old mofo. Yeah, I just want to be tall. I'm going to be tall and sexy. And then Real going to have, you know, she's going to be a tall old boy. Yeah, I just want to be tall. But, you know, I'm going to be tall and sexy. And then Real going to have, you know, she's going to be looking at me like, yeah. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. I want to be, I'll take the money and be happy. Like I said, forget the ex, all that stuff. Read mine for three days. Yeah, all that stuff on now, man. I ain't trying to do none of that. Get millions of followers, I'm good.

But hold up. You just picked two things that you already have in real life already. I want to be always. Because a lot of times, mofos make me upset. So they can't make me upset. I'm always be happy. When was the last time you heard, Ocho? When was the last time you heard somebody say, man, I got too much money?

You've heard people say, I got too many cars. I got too many pairs of shoes. I got too many clothes. I got too much jewelry. When was the last time you ever heard somebody say, man, I got too much money? That's a good one. People got 200 million. When you put it like that, that's a good one. That's a good one. I'm going seven and eight.

All right. All right. That'll work. I'm going seven and eight. All right. All right. That'll work. I'm still, I'm taking, I'm taking that. Now, now I can do,

I can do stuff that I always wanted to do and not even worry about it. You know, Savannah State. Yeah. We about to be the Harvard, we about to be the Harvard

of the HBCUs. Mm. All the HBCUs about to come up, but Savannah State gonna come up the, but Savannah State gonna come up the most. Savannah State gonna come up the most. That's for damn sure. And

yeah, that's to be happy all the time, because a lot of times people get on my nerves. Mm-hmm. Oh, I like that. But you know what, Ocho? I think, like I said, I think back in the Kobe and Kobe, had Kobe Ocho? I think, like I said, I think back in the Kobe and Kobe had Kobe continue to live. Maybe, like I said, reconciling. Reconnect with his family might have been possible.

Maybe he's like, you know what? I want to do this. I've already have a will and an estate already set in place. But I updated every every so often right so i'm not gonna be that guy that shallow sharp left and everything is nah nah the one thing and structured and as disciplined as that man was you mean to tell me he didn't have no will the kid no oh to the teeth this This goes here. This goes there.

Savannah State gets this. Mom gets that. Brother, sister, kids. Everybody gets a ring. Blah, blah. Everybody. Everybody get X amount of dollars in increments. You don't get it all at once.

You get increments of it. Oh, dang. I've immediately done that. Every two years, I update it. And it ain't cheap. But as you accumulate more, now pots, now you're all of a sudden like, okay. Because I want to leave the kids enough where they have to do something but not so much they don't do nothing right i like that that was a good one and so that was a good one that's that's that's that's where I'm at with that. Okay, check this out, Ocho. Ooh, Ocho. A man takes $10,000 from his girlfriend to bet.

He wins $100 million. Girlfriend requests $40 million. A Nigerian man reportedly took $10,000 from his girlfriend to use in a bet and won $100 million. After finding out, his girlfriend requested that the man pay her at least $40 million. He declined and explained that he would only give her $5 million. Now, what he stole is about $7.50 in Nigerian money. What he won was about $75,000. Oh, man, you got me thinking it's, come on, man. You got me thinking

I thought you really made $100 million, man. Do you understand how far $75,000 would go in Nigeria? Okay. You understand that they trade like they get a goat and a calf and stuff like that. And you can have wives.

Do you understand how much money that is? That you got to take you out of the equation. I mean, think about he stole $7.50. That's the equivalent of what it is and if you were to extrapolate that's what it is so he's like no I'll give you I'll give you $5 million so in other words

he's saying instead of what's that $3,500 would he be willing to give her $3,500 I'll be willing to give I'll give her $5 you know what I'll show I'll give her $10 I'll give her $10 she ain't getting no half that ain't bad willing to give, I give a five. I give a, you know what don't you? I give a ten, I give a ten bands. She ain't get no half.

They ain't bad, they ain't bad. Or, how about this here? You either take, you either take this ten bands, or I give you this $7.50 back. Now, which one you choosing? Hey, listen, it's more than what she had. Yes. But he did steal it though now

He did steal it He stole it If you steal my money If I didn't tell you Ocho Guess what You didn't know I stole it That's a good one I mean

She got the right to be upset It's probably his partner huh You think it's his partner Girlfriend It's his girlfriend Well it ain't really stealing Because you know women always say What's yours is mine And what's mine. Well, it ain't really stealing because, you know, women always say, what's yours is mine

and what's mine is yours. So it ain't really stealing. Until I hit this thing big now. Now, what's mine is mine and what's yours is yours. Yeah, see, that's funny. Money always change, folk. Money always change, folk. Depending on the amount of zeros, it change every

goddamn thing. You gotta give her something. Obviously, if she's there for the right reason. I give her 10 bands. 10 bands for $7.50? Yeah, ain't nothing wrong with that. But again, the money make a fool of us all. And it'll show you some colors you've never seen before, too.

True. So how much would you have given her? Me? Yes. Shoot, I'd probably have. true so how much would you have given her me yes shoot I probably probably half but one I wouldn't have stole it I would have told her I would have told her what I was going to do and if I won

you were going to get half hell if I hit the god damn mega millions and I hit if I hit the mega millions and win, how much, how much you think, how much you think we're going to get? Well,

somebody, well, somebody would, uh, uh, well, the guy just won the one point. Well,

one point. He took a lump sum of 551 million. Right. Rare. You sleep. Rhea you sleep? I wonder how much you think she want if I win a hundred million I wonder what she expect

that's a good question huh yeah I remember I tell this story a woman a woman forced to give the husband 1.3 million lottery win cause she divorced him.

Oh yeah, you remember that story. She was married for 25 years. Yeah, 25? She was married for 25 years. She didn't want to share. You see what money do? If you won 100 million, how much you going to give me?

It's ours, baby. See, she just said it's ours but they always say the right thing in a hypothetical question but what happens if it really came? If you really want a hundred million? Oh, hey, rail. You put rail, put the rail, rail, get on the phone. Get on the, get on the, get on the camera. Rail. Take this out. Ocho go in your. Ocho goes in your purse.

Yeah, get in, get in the middle. Ocho goes, Ocho goes in your purse. Mm-hmm. He steals $10,000.

He bets, wins $100 million, and says, okay, Rell, I'm going to give you your $10,000 back. He ain't going to steal.

He'll, if it came down to that, we're going to say he asked me for it, or he just took it you your $10,000 back. He ain't going to steal. If it came down to that, we're going to say he asked me for it or he just took it. No, no, no. He didn't ask. He just went in and grabbed it. He went in and grabbed it. He wins $100 million and says, okay, Real, I'm going to put your money back that I took

from you. To the hell you wait. This is our money. You mean you're going to put it back. This is our money. Just like it was your it was our money when you went in and got it to bet. It's our money when you want it. There you go, Real. Tell them where I can hear, Real.

Real said, no, hell you ain't gonna put it with me. Give me $10,000. See, Real, he gave her $5,000,000 million so he gonna give about 35 that's about how much is how much is five million that might be like 1,500 almost yeah almost $4,000 on Joe but

take a long way over there in Nigeria, huh? Yes! God damn. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you.

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Ocho. Ooh, guys, it's time for Ocho's favorite segment. And y'all know what it is. It's Spello Cinco. Oh, for real? Yeah. Hold on, let me get this shit out of my mouth. Okay. Hold on.

What do you have? Chat is on tonight, baby. Chat is on tonight. It's on tonight, baby. All right. Be rehearsing. I got to go to the bathroom right right quick Be rehearsing, Ocho Alright, I'm finna rehearse

Hey, chat Let me tell you something I'm not missing no words tonight I ain't missing no words tonight I'm finna do it for y'all You know what I'm gonna do it for y'all Because I love you I love you

So let's pretend your life was on the line If your life was on the line I have to spell the word right So you can survive That's what this segment is right here I'm gonna show you how much I love y'all because I ain't going to get shit wrong. Once I put that goddamn chapstick on, I'm good. That's my, that helped me.

That helped me spell. I'm ready. First word. First word. Let me warm up. Let me stretch a little bit okay you got a stretch got a stretch to get them words right huh that's the warm-up word.

Is that the word we have coming out? Oh, squirrel. Well, squirrel is not easy. That's easy. S-Q-U-I-R. No, S-Q-U-I-R-R-E-L. Yeah, that's easy. Squirrel is easy.

All right. You ready, Ocho? Hey! Hold on. Let me say a little prayer first. Because I told, I gave the people in the chat, I gave them a hypothetical on what this meant to me, what this meant for them, for me to get all the words right. Amen. Okay. Let's go. Okay, Ocho. We're going to start y'all With a very easy one Martyr

Martyr Yes Someone dying for the cause Is considered a martyr You know what I'm gonna go on a limb here Because I know it's tricky

And I know it ain't spelled Like it sounds. Martyr. M-A-I-T-E-R. I'm going to cut the limb off. What limb? Mar. Mar.

M-A-R. Yes. Martyr. Well, hell, it can't be M-A-R-T-E-R. Martyr. Dur. Tur. T-Y-R.

M-A-R-T-Y-R. Why does the English language do that? Why do they do that? Why would you know if it's martyr? Why would you replace the E like it should be with a Y? Why? Okay, Ocho, this is an easy one. This is the easiest word that you've ever had.

You told me the last one was easy. You said the last word was easy. Okay, Ocho, you remember Alex Smith? The injury that he suffered? No, I don't. On the field when he got his leg broke, he got mangled. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a gruesome injury.

The word is gruesome. Oh, gruesome is easy. G-R-U-E-S-O-M-E. Yeah, that's easy. Come on now, you got it. Wait, hold on. Spell that again. Gruesome.

G-R-U-E-S-O-M. Yeah, come on and that I told you that come on now I do this you gotta give me some give me the tricky shit cause you can't just

give me no that's easy okay how about this one you go uh into the doctor's office and you have to fill out

a questionnaire questionnaire come on man q-u-e-s come on man q-u-e this office and you have to fill out a questionnaire. Questionnaire. Come on, man. Q-U-E-S. Come on, man. Q-U-E S-T-I-O-N A-I-R-E I said give me hard shit.

Give me hard shit. That's wrong. No, it ain't. It's two N's. I just said So we really gonna do that. I just said... So, we really gonna do that? I just spelled it right now. Don't do that.

You left out an N. Chat, did he leave out an N? Yes or no? Come on. You left out an R. Don't do that. If Q-U-E-S-T-I-O-N-N-A-R-I-E. That's what I said.

No, you didn't. But okay. Okay. Oh, now you're cheating. You're cheating now. You're cheating. Yeah. See, I'm on fire tonight.

I'm ready. Okay, here, but this is... Sometimes when you have gut issues, you have to go see a gastroenterologist. Gastro what? Enterologist. Enterologist. Okay. Gastroenterologist gastro what enternologist entereologist okay gastroenterologist g-a-s-t-r-o that i got that part e-n enter gastro g-a-g-a-s-t-r-o enter e-t-n-e-t-e-e-n-t-e-R-O-L-O-G-I-S-T. I mean, that got to be common sense. And if it ain't spelled the way it sounds,

then there's something wrong with me. You left the R out. No, I did not. Gastro, G-A-R-G-A-S-T-R-O. Gastro. How do you say the whole word again? Enterologist. Enterologist.

E-E-N-T-E-R O-L-O-G-I-S-T. That has to be it. That's it. I'm on fire tonight, baby. Let's go. Give me a hard word. All this cupcake shit.

Okay. Tyrannosaurus re word. All this cupcake shit. Okay. Tyrannosaurus Rex. The most famous dinosaur to ever walk the earth is called Tyrannosaurus Rex. Now, you know I'm not going to get that right now. Come on now. I'm not even playing. You know I'm not going to get that right.

Tyrannosaurus, I haven't had to spell Tyrannosaurus since elementary. Okay. Well, you graduated now. You a teacher now. Yeah, but I had to spell Tyrannosaurus. I know it start with a T. Do you know why they abbreviate it? Do you know why they abbreviate it and just call it a T-Rex?

Because it's so difficult to spell the whole goddamn name. Yeah. You want me to give it a shot, though? Yeah. Tyrannosaurus rex. Can you please use the word in a sentence? The most popular dinosaur to ever roam the earth is called a tyrannosaurus rex. Tyrannosaurus rex.

Tyran. So I had a homeboy named Tyran when I grew up. How do you spell his name? T-Y-R-A-N. That's common sense. Now, this is where it gets tricky. It's the middle part of the word that I don't know, but I know thesaurus ends with S-A-U-R-U-S,

as all dinosaurs ends with S-A-U-U-R-S. But I don't know the middle part. I just know Tyrannosaurus. There's a middle part that's tricky. I'll never forget. So you want to give it a try? I just did. Tyrann, T-Y, I guarantee you, I know I'm not wrong

because this is how I used to do it when I was younger. I used to break it down in parts. The middle of it, the beginning of it is Tyran. T-Y-R-A-N. I know that. The ending always, the ending things when it comes to dinosaurs, it's S-A-U-R-U-S.

It's the fucking middle part of the spelling that I will never forget. I can't remember. It's spelled T-Y-R-A-N-N-O-S-A-U-R-U-S-R-E-X. Tyrannosaurus Rex. Okay, well, the Rex part, yes. But you understand what I meant, though, right? Yes. Okay.

That shit hard. A female doctor is called... Gynecologist. Gynecologist. Gynecologist. Because that's what I used to be. Okay. Gynecologist. G-U-N-O-C-O-L-O-G-I-S-T.

Wrong. It's G-Y-N E-C O-L-O G-I-S-T gynecologist. That's what I said. Where did I slip up at? G-U-N.

Ah, damn. Damn. Hold on, one more, one more, one more. We'll get one more. One bonus word. How the hell? I'm spelling with such confidence tonight, too. Let's go, boy. Let's go, boy.

I mean, you said that thing loud and wrong. I just missed one little word. Listen, some people can't... That's how I spell it gold, don't you? I mean, listen, come on, I ain't been in this position or had to be in this position a very long time. I've been out of school goddamn 40 years. My spelling

is better than a lot. A lot of folk, a lot of folk wouldn't get none of this shit right. But come on. Give me one more. Go on, give him. Little bonus word,

little bonus word. My daughter is going to school to become a doctor of this. It's called anesthesiology. Shit. I know how to spell anesthesia. Anesthesia obviously is A-N-T-E-S-I. No.

A-N-T-E-S-I. A-N. I'm thinking about the girl anesthesia from the goddamn movie. I'm tripping. Anesthesia. But anyway. Anesthesia, anesthesia.

A-N-E-S-T-H-E-S-I-N-T-E-S-I. damn movie. I'm tripping. Anastasia. But anyway. Anastasia. A-E-S-T H-E S-I O-L-G-I-S-T G-I-G-I. No. Okay. Anastasia. Okay. Anastasia. Yeah, I won't get that one. That's a good one. That's a good one. Okay, Ocho, it's time for your

revenge because last week I went five for five. Nah, you cheated because the question was... The question was easy, man. The question was easy. You ready? Don't be asking me no hard questions, though, Joe. I have a question. What did I go for last week?

I mean, just now. On spelling, what did I go for? Three for five. Last week? Yes. What did I go for? Three for five. Last week? Yes. What did I go for tonight? One. One for five.

Yeah. Nah, something ain't right, man. Your spelling. Don't give me no hard ones, Ocho. Huh? Don't give me no hard ones. Nah, listen. They didn't already brief you like Pelican.

You didn't hear that bar right there, huh? Oh, that Pelican brief? You heard that bar? We did, Zayla and Julia Roberts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They didn't already brief you like Pelican. Hey, chat, I'm probably one of the greatest rappers in that, man. Alright, here we go. Question number one.

We're just 25 days away from the NFL draft, which will be in Detroit. New York City has hosted the draft 57 times. Which city is second with hosting it 12 times? Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Come on now. I have no idea. Los Angeles. We got it wrong. It's not Los Angeles. The answer is Philadelphia, one of the greatest cities in America, has hosted the NFL draft 12 times. We got him. We got him.

We got him down one, Chad. But it wasn't... Oh, okay. Yeah, Philly. Was that the AFL draft too? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. The common draft is considered

from 1970. Okay, so now you're trying to... I'm just asking, Ochoa. You're trying to get political on me. The answer was 12 and it's Philadelphia. You are wrong. Okay. Question number two.

Who was the last overall number one pick to also win rookie of the year? Offensive defense. The last overall number one pick that also won Rookie of the Year? Andrew Luck. No, Andrew Luck didn't win it. Let me take that back. Let me take that back. No, no.

You said your answer already. You can't recant your answer. No, you can't. Once you pull the trigger, you can't take the bullet back after it already hit the man. You can't do that. You done said that.

You said Andrew Luck. You said Andrew Luck. Okay, go ahead. The chat heard you say Andrew Luck. I did. Hey, said anything? You said Andrew Luck. Where is you nobody? You said Andrew Luck. Okay, go ahead. Who was it? The chat heard you say Andrew Luck. I did. I did. Hey, listen.

No, no, no. You can't do that. You can't do that. You are wrong. Like you told me, I was loud and wrong, right? Peyton Manning was it. Peyton Manning? You are wrong again.

You loud and wrong twice. It is Cam Newton in 2011. Yes, you 0 for 2. You loud and wrong twice It is Cam Newton In 2011 Yes You 0 for 2 You loud Loud and wrong Come on chat We got him on the roast baby

I'ma get one Shit me Not tonight you ain't Only two players Have went undrafted And been named NFL MVP

And defensive player Of the year Who are they? Oh my goodness. Only two players have went undrafted and managed to win NFL MVP and defensive player of the year.

Who are the two? Undrafted. I don't know. Hold on, Ocho. Undrafted. Undrafted and still managed to win an NFL MVP and won a defensive player of the year. Oh, okay.

No. One won. They were undrafted. One won defensive player of the year, and the other one won MVP. That's what I said. That's what I said. You just said it the opposite way.

Go ahead. Okay. Kurt Warner is an offensive player. Don't be mad. Defensive. Defensive. defensive yeah we got him on the ropes defensive

defensive player of the year he was defensive player of the year or defensive MVP defensive player of the year or defensive MVP? Defensive player. Okay. Woo. We're going to be here all night, huh? Mm-hmm.

Chad, we got him on the rope, Chad. We got it. I don't know chat I'll say Everton Walls I don't know and the answer is probably the strongest man to ever play in the NFL outside of Larry Allen and James

Harrison James Harrison 2008 he was the defensive player of the year I'd have never got that number four which NFL team currently he was the defensive player of the year. Player of the year, yep. I'd have never got that. Yep, yep. Number four. Which NFL team currently has the largest drought

without winning a double-digit amount of regular season games? They have struggled to win double-digit amount of games in a season. Longest drought. Yeah, chat, we got him on the ropes, but chat, we got him on the ropes. He gonna try to be like Ali and Bob and Weave, but we gonna hit him like Joe Frazier. We gonna hit him in the stomach. We gonna hit him in the chest. We gonna hit him

where it hurt. God gonna bless. What does it say? King City boom boom boom. Man! Let's see. Bengals, Browns, Steelers. Ahhhhhhh Uh Uh Oh my goodness

Hey You can throw the white tie You can wear the white flag Give me give me give me Give me a second Let me I gotta I gotta go through the databank Right quick

Ain't no databank Make sure ain't nobody back there Helping you there Ain't ain'tank. Make sure ain't nobody back there helping you now. Ain't that much data in the world. Chat, y'all watch his eyes. Chat, y'all watch his eyes and watch his hands now. Yeah, you ain't not. Nope.

The Jets. You said the Jets? You are, again, loud and wrong. You are loud and wrong. The Washington Commanders have not won 10 or more games since 2012. 12. And the longest, oh, excuse me, second longest is in the drought are the Jets and the longest Oh, excuse me Second longest Is in the drought Are the Jets and the Broncos

Who haven't won 10 games since 2015 Damn The correct answer was The Washington Commanders Damn Chad, we got him on the ropes Have you even got one right tonight?

I ain't got not one I got half of one I got Kurt Warner Yeah, that don't count Number five This is a true or false question. True or false? The Steelers

20 straight non-losing seasons is now the longest in NFL history. True or false? The Steelers 20 straight non-losing seasons is now the longest in NFL history. True or false The Steelers 20 straight Non-losing seasons Is now the longest In NFL history

Is this true or false False I think the Cowboys Had a longer streak Motherfucker I'm on your mother Don't mess with Shane Don't mess with Shane you were very passionate about

I will get one you either go hard or stop but I want you all over that meant a lot to you right there I can tell by the way you answered that. Now, that was funny. That was funny, yes. The Cowboys hold the NFL record with 21 straight non-losing seasons

from 1965 to 1985. Hey, that was funny, but you meant that. Not only did I say false, I gave you the team that actually had the record, Ocho. Hey, you meant that. That was funny. Okay, that was funny. Oh, man.

Listen, you went one for five. Yeah, I went one for five, too. Actually, I was two for five. All right, Ocho. That was good. Hey, it's time for our last All right, Ocho. That was good. I'm A. It's time for our last segment of the day. Q&A.

And it's called Q&A. Dave Barclay said, Crazy, I'm 41 and I feel like a kid watching you. Takes me back. I watched your guys' entire career. I love watching people uplift others. That's how we all grow. You guys are the GOATs. Dave, I appreciate that.

I appreciate the support. I appreciate you watching Nightcap. I appreciate you following us. And continue the blessings. And thanks for the supporting of Nightcap with Unk and Ocho. Thank you, boy. I appreciate you, baby.

Appreciate you. We out here. They said, Ocho 5 said, make a replay cam so we can see what Ocho is lying. Oh, I don't never lie. I don't never lie.

He don't lie. He just misbehave the truth. I never do that. Listen, I lie for you before I lie to you. That's one thing about me. If I tell one, I got to remember,

if I tell one, I got to tell another. At some point, I'm going to trip myself up. Can't do that. Okay. Dr. Frankie L. Beverly, several of my homegirls

have a crush on you. They said, you're hotter than fish grease. Doc, I appreciate that. Who, me? They said me? No, they appreciate that. Who, me? They saying me? No, they say Mr. Rail is not hot. Oh, damn.

Justin Michaels said, I love y'all, man. Enjoy listening to y'all while I'm at work. Ocho, funny sending. Pepto Bismol to all the DBs he played one Sunday. When your liquor gonna be out in Virginia, have you thought about streaming on Twitch? Actually,

one of the states that we're looking to get activation in is Virginia. And that's going to be one of the seven states that we look to open up within the next two months. So Virginia is on the list along with Texas,

Florida, New York, California, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Maryland. Healthy Vibe Lifestyle. Shannon, you owe Ochoa an apology. You said that there is not a celebrity when playing in the NFL. Hold on. He was not a celebrity when playing in the NFL, but now he's a celebrity. He commercial had his own reality show, Dancing with the Stars, while playing in the NFL. Were you on Dancing with the Stars while you were playing?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who won? Yeah, I did. I came in third place, but I was good, though. Who won that year? Nicole Scherzinger. Oh, yeah. Did that see?

That's not fair. That's not fair. That's not fair. It's a funny thing. She has a dance background, but so did I as well. Obviously, when it comes to dancing Latin, Latin dances, I excel to nose. But she was so good from day one all the way to the end because it's what she does for a living. It's what she does for a living.

That's like having a football or a reality show. Right. And they have a guy that was an ex-professional athlete out there, ex-football player that was recently retired. Right. So he's 27. And they're like, wow, he won the show.

No ish. Yeah. But, I mean, it was dope. That was a great experience. I think all the players that have had the opportunity to go and dance with the stars will say nothing but great things about it. Very humbling. Very humbling because it's different when you're in a position as a man and you're not the lead. You're not the lead as much as you want to be because you're in someone else's profession. And honestly,

she was able to lead. That was great experience, man. I wish I could do that again. Sometimes I believe. Ash, look it up. Philadelphia hosted a draft in 1936, 1944, from 1949 to 1961 in 2017. Huh? All but one was pre-merger. You see that, Ocho? You'll be trying to stop your boy.

I keep telling you, Ocho. Nah, nah, listen. What we not going to do is try to go back. Ocho. What we going to do is try pre-merger, post-merger,

any merger. The merger. Ocho. What we're going to do is try pre-merger, post-merger. Any merger. The merger. People don't consider the merger until 1970. Nah. Ocho, you cheated. Philadelphia, 12 is the answer. You got it wrong.

Cameron Norwood Jr. said, can we please get Ocho on first take in studio one day? I would love to see it. I'm on first take, but listen, Chad, from my mouth to God's ears, I'm going to be on first take with Stephen A and Shannon during football season as a third edition.

I just think it would be fun. It would be good. I would be very informative. I'm going to talk about players like you want me to do a little bit more, you know, to an extent. And I think it'd just be good. It'd be great for us all.

Just one big happy family. Okay. Take this out, Ocho. I know you're going to see this. Zachary says, I'm shooting my shot professionally. I would love the opportunity to explain how I can bring value

for you two regarding cybersecurity. I need just five minutes of your valuable time to better explain through whichever communication channel you would like. Much love. You down, Ocho? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you trying to do? Cybersecurity.

Cybersecurity? So we don't get hacked. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Whatever you want to do, homie. Holler? So we don't get hacked. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Whatever you want to do, homie. Holler at me. Holler at me. Because I used to, like, when my days, when I used to be, you know what, I ain't going to bring that up. But I know about

cyber security. So I just bought me a cyber truck. Oh, you got, hold on. I know you ain't brought that. What about the saving? The who? The saving.

I am saving. How you saving to buy the Cybertruck? Because I'm getting a good deal. Right now, the market for them is up crazy. They want them for like $200. You know, they really supposed to be about $60. I'm getting mine for $40. Did you

buy that square thing? Yeah. It look real futuristic like me. That's a waste of money. You still can go. You can go everywhere you need to go in that smart car, remember? I am. I still got my smart cars in the garage. But the value is you.

I thought the value was you. No matter what you get, But the value is you. I thought the value was you. No matter what you get, the value, you're the value. I am the value. But like you said, you bought that BMW. Why you bought that BMW? That 740 series, that big body. Why you bought that? Ocho, Ocho.

I had that car. You know how long I had that car? It just came out. What you talking about? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I was test driving it. Oh, you didn't buy it? Nah. You told me not to buy anything. Why, no, no. I was test driving it. Oh, you ain't buying it? No.

You told me not to buy anything. Why you lying, man? I ain't lying. I ain't lying. I ain't buying it. I ain't buying no Tesla. I want to, though. You got it.

Yeah, you already told me. No, I promise you. My word is my word. I wouldn't lie to you. I really want to be- Zachary, DM me. I want that truck. I don't want to get- I want that truck. What you want to get I want that truck

What you think Should I get it Bro you work hard I mean Chad Chad what you think Should I get that The Tesla truck

I know it's ugly Everybody gonna say Oh it's so ugly But shit so am I So am I What's the difference Ugly dude driving Ugly truck

It just makes sense Match made in heaven Huh Yep Made for this mountain Is a podcast That exists to empower sense. Huh? Yep. Made for this mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners

to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma and silence the negative voices that have kept them small through raw

conversations, real stories and actionable guidance. You can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be

able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that.

May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people.

Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen.

What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets.

Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General.

I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story,

listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Nate B. said, Hey, Nightcap Chat, and Uncle Nocho, big fan of the show. Nocho, question for you. Me and some of the chat want to know if your Nightcap sign ain't on like Unc's.

Much love. No. Why your Nightcap sign? Listen, my Nightcap sign, as you can see, is not on, but it has like a Star Wars, like it glows a little bit. You know, the way it is. And I think it looks cool like that. If I turn it on, it just, it gives, it gives too much. Look, watch this.

Okay. You see? Like, it just, it, like. Huh? That's too much, ain't it? Chad, what you think, Chad? Well, we can fix the camera setting so it doesn't look like that.

You know what I'm trying to say, though? Yeah. Like, it's like, it's like, it's taking over everything. It's like, it's too, like, ah. Look at my background. Yeah, see, yours is dim. Yours is dim.

Yeah, but see, we're... I don't know how to dim... But that's the camera setting, Mocho. Okay, okay, okay. But whatever we need to do... Hey, it look good. It look good both ways. You're the dim. Yeah, but see, that's the camera setting, Mocho. Okay, okay, okay. But whatever we need to do. Hey, it look good. It look good both ways. You can still see it say it's nightcap and it has like a little neon.

Yeah, see? Yeah, we'll fix it. We'll get that fixed. All right. Stephanie Warfield. Go ahead. You don't like the way it looking? Like Star Wars, no? No, it don't like you don't like the way it look and you like Star Wars no no it don't look like

no Star Wars check this out you ain't never seen Star Wars alright where we at Stephanie Warfield athletes often speak about importance of having

a cohesive locker room Justin Fields seems to have had a good relationship with the team how do you think the trade will affect a cohesive locker room. Justin Fields seems to have had a good relationship with the team. How do you think the trade will affect the Bears locker room? What do you think? I'm going to let you go

first. Man. It's different. Had he been a veteran player, had level of success. You see it had the impact. If you take like when Brady left new England. Oh yeah.

Had he won spent some years. I mean, but he's still young though. Oh Joe. Very young, very young, very young. And they didn't have the level of success.

Did guys like him? Yeah. I don't know. Seems like a very likable guy. But at the end of the day, pro sports is about wins and losses. Yeah. That's all that counts at the end of the day. Can he

get wins and losses? Wins. More wins than losses. But I do think Ocho had he spent, let's just say seven, eight years, had won a little bit more, I think it would have a bigger impact than what it's going to have.

But, I mean, it's not like they're getting rid of him for they believe they're bringing in a generational talent with Caleb so what you think

how can I word this right ask the question one more time so I can say what I need to say the right way and not say the wrong goddamn thing. Athletes often speak about the importance of having a cohesive locker room. Justin Fields seemed to have had a good relationship with the team. How do you think the trade will affect the Bears locker room? It won't affect the locker room at all. I don't think it will affect the locker room at all.

Obviously, those players have a job to do this is a business they understand that at the end of the day you see players come and go that's always been the nature of this business i think the fans rally behind justin fields towards the end of the season as did the players but i think it wasn't enough with a generational talent like Caleb Williams, you know, right there. He's right there. And obviously the wins and the losses weren't enough. Being at Dan Bears, they got their first pick for a reason.

Right. You know? Yep. Yeah, it's not. People may say, you may think it affects the locker room. Listen, when it's time to play football, nothing, nothing gets in the way of that. Nothing at all.

Laney Ray, hey guys, first, MJ is the GOAT. Just wanted to hear you say it. Laney Ray, what's going to happen is that we're going to lose your mod modification. So,

don't you ever say that again. Second, what are your Zodiac signs, and do you put any weight on them? Any signs you're not compatible with? Well, I don't really know a whole lot of signs. I think, like, I'm supposed to be good with, like, I'm a Cancer. Crab.

Hardshell. Tender inside. I think, uh inside I think uh I think I'm supposed to be like compatible with like Aries Tauruses and

Leos so I think Aries is like beginning of April Taurus is the end of April. And Leo, I know Leo because that's my sister. My sister is Leo. My brother has a birthday coming up here on Saturday, April.

So I think he's an Aries. But Taurus is a stubborn. Hey, you know what sign I'm compatible with? Yeah. Dollar sign. Yeah, that's me. I'm compatible with the dollar sign. I get along with everybody.

I don't care what your sign is. You could be Aquarius, Capricorn. You could be a Cancer, a Scorpion. You could be, what's the, I don't even know the rest of them. You could be a Cancer, a Scorpion. You could be a... I don't even know the rest of them. Hey. You could be a Forataurus.

What's the rest of it? I don't know. I think an Aquarius. Sagittarius. Capricorn. Gemini. Huh? Yeah. Jimmy did cricket. I don't care what it is.

I get along with everybody. You know my sign? What? I'm a sign from God. You need to come on and get it now. You need to come on and get with me. You know what I'm saying, don't you? I'm a sign from God.

You didn't know it? You think it's an accident that I'm in your presence? Don't you mess up your blessing. I like that. Don't you mess up your blessing now. And many will mess up their blessing. Many, many of will mess up their blessing because pride and ego always gets in the way.

It's Sunday. Now, I would preach. I'm not going to get into my sermon because it's not the time of the day. Right. But yeah. Like I told you, I told you, especially when it comes to women.

Chat, ladies in the chat, y'all listen to me. Y'all always trying to hit a home run. You're not going to hit a home run. You're not going to hit a home run. Sometimes you got to find the right man. You got to run the bases. Sometimes you got to run the bases.

You know, everybody want the finished product. The final product. It ain't going to happen. It ain't going to run the bases. You know, everybody want the finished product, the final product. It ain't going to happen. It ain't going to happen. No. Big guy said, what's up, Uncle Nocho? What was your memorable moment playing against Emmitt? Because my dad is a huge Cowboys fan, and he named me the same name as Emmitt.

We played the Cowboys twice. I'm 2-2. I had the last two games, I went crazy on them. What them numbers was like? I'm trying, I'm trying. We was in Baltimore. I hit them up in Baltimore. I hit them up for 5 for 105 on a tub.

And I think in Denver in 98 I had, what'd I have? Like five for like 96 two touches. Them good numbers, man. A little side, you know. But you know, if it were to... What did we do? We beat them like in Baltimore, we beat

them 27-0. I think they might have had like 100 yards of total offense. Our defense dominated them. And then in Denver, we scored the first time we had the ball. So we, the game was over. The score was like 35-7, 35-14 at the half. We beat the

breaks out there. But now, we played them in the 90s now, when they had them Super Bowl team, it didn't go too well for them. Oh, the first year they won the Super Bowl, Ocho, they beat us on a game-winning drive. We had them. They beat us on a game-winning drive. Who was the quarterback? For them?

Yeah. Or for us? For the Cowboys. Troy. Oh, okay. Troy was there. Okay, yeah. Yeah.

Troy, both times. And then the next year, 95, they beat us. Yeah. Elvin Joy said, I'm a big Broncos fan since the 90s. Hopefully we can get back to winning. Ocho, you were a hell of a wide receiver. My question is for Ocho. What happened in New England because you were going crazy that year. You had it going

crazy. What happened, Ocho? That's what everybody want to know What happened to Ocho? Why do we see Chad Johnson and not Ocho Cinco? Shit, because you had, I mean Listen, the Patriot way, that's what the fuck happened They don't play that shit over there You have to suppress yourself You cannot, as much as I want to be myself

And then they had too much going on over there, bro Too much, huh? You remember the team I just named off? Yeah myself and then they had too much too much going on over there bro too much huh you remember you remember you remember did you remember the team i just named off yeah and again you for those that chat if you don't know and don't understand the patriots offense is run from the inside if i out as opposed to all the other 31 teams they're run from the outside and when it comes to the passing game it just It just wasn't a fit. Sometimes it's not a fit just because you say, oh shit, Ocho's going with Brady. The offense in itself, it wasn't a fit for me. Now, if your last name is Moss and you're special and arguably one

of the greatest to ever easily top three of all time, it's different. He can do things. He was a freak of nature. I'm not a freak of nature, you know? I mean, well, I am a freak, but not of nature. But anyway, but no, it was different, man. It was different. Dude, you got to think. Julian Edelman, Wes Welker, Aaron Hernandez. You had Gronk, too.

Missing somebody. Deion Branch. I mean, there was, again, if I had the choice to go, when the Bengals traded me, I would have went somewhere else where I know it would have fit. It would have fit for me. It just wasn't a good fit.

I don't know how to explain that, but it just wasn't. Zach Knight says, it would mean the world to me to get a shout-out for my girl, Shayla from Uncannot Show. Ocho, let me get one on one sometime that footwork come hot and ready.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. One on what? Would you play DB, homie? You play DB and receiver. What you trying to do? And now you're talking. Now you're talking my language, man. Yeah. Shayla. I make you wish you never played football. You got the right one. Zach wants to give you a shout out. He says you're a very special lady

and he wanted you to know that. He wanted you to hear it coming from Uncle Nocho. Shout out to Shayla. What up, Shayla? On gang twin or whatever it is. Uncle Nocho, what's your top three Little Debbie's cakes?

Mine is honey buns, oatmeal pie, strawberry shortcake. Listen, honey buns is number one. Honey buns is number one. Zebra cakes is number one for me. Huh? Zebra cakes. Zebra cakes is number three.

Honey buns in the microwave, 12 seconds warmed up, cup of noodles on the side with a jungle juice fruit punch. No. Zebra cakes is three. I like them crispy cream honey buns. They used to be them sunbe them honey buns. I like them Krispy Kreme honey buns. They used to be them sunbeam honey buns.

Woo-hoo! Them truck drivers. We call them truck driver steak. I don't know about them. I'm talking about them Lil Debbie

honey buns is the real deal. Zipper cakes, oatmeal pies, and nutty bars. Hold on. And I got one. I don't even think

they Lil Debbie. Remember the moon pies? The vanilla and chocolate moon pies? Yeah. That's my number two. No, there ain't no Lil Debbie. I know. That's why I just had to throw that in there.

I couldn't think of another. Look, I just like moon pies over the... I forgot the last thing I said. What did I say, number three? You said, uh,

zebra, uh, zebra case. Yeah, zebra case is my third because I like moon, moon pies before, even though moon pies

aren't Lil Debbie. My bad. Uh, Yellow Cutter Wood Service said, I'm a chef at YCF. I'm curious, Uncle Nocho,

what's your favorite steak? Steak? Shoot. Uh, Waffle House's your favorite steak? Steak? Shoot. Waffle house. Waffle house. Steak, meat and whale. Eggs, scramble, light toast, jam, not jelly. Now, as far as other steaks, I've been to nice places.

I've been to nice places. Real took me to Poppy Steak. I had the tomahawk there. And that was a great experience. You ate it all? No, I didn't eat it all. It was a group of us. It was a group of us.

Okay, yeah. I don't experience high-end restaurants very often. I don't frequent that shit. You know, I don't do that. So anytime her and I have an opportunity to go somewhere nice, I always get a steak and I always get it medium well. Medium well. I don't know why, but it's cool.

Where's YTF? I would like to visit his state. I want to visit his place. YTF, I don't know. YTF. Yeah, let me know where you're at now. I'm going to come on in there and check one of them steaks out.

I'm not, you know, my palate ain't really like that. I eat like a little kid still, but I will come check the place out. I get, mainly I go like ribeye i'll do a ribeye mainly ribeye uh a filet occasionally i go now steven eight since he wanted to be old froggy and jump out there on that lily pad talk about ad going gonna play such and such a game i'm gonna go on and get me one of them $1,000. I'm gonna get one of them 12 ounce A5 Wagyu. Wagyu?

$80 an ounce. I'm gonna get 12 ounces. Wait, they got, hold on now. Come on, bring it back, bring it back, bring it back. They have steak that is, they charge you the steak by the motherfucking ounce? Eight and a half ounce. And it's a minimum of three ounces.

It's got to be a minimum of three ounces. I'm going to get that old big boy. I'm going to get that 12 ounce. So I'm going to heat him up and I'm going to order me, you know, probably get a bottle of Protrus.

2009. I might let him off the hook easy with that because that's about 11,000 a bottle. So I'll just get me a couple of glasses of it. Tell him about betting me. I'm confused.

What are you confused about? How the fuck are they charging you by the ounce for a steak? What's the difference in the steak? The Waggonaut. Wagyu. A5. Japanese. Certified. A5. Japanese.

Certified. Oh, so because it come from Japan. Yeah. The animals out there a little different than animals here? They massage them, give them beer, make the meat tender. They give them a special diet.

So that makes it a wagonot steak. A marbling. A marbling. The flavor's like butter. Mmm. So you think the steak,

the waggonot steak is better than the steak I gave from Waffle House? It is. You think so? I know so. Once you put that goddamn steak,

that A1 sauce on that motherfucking salt pepper, it's all the same? First of all, a good chef ain't gonna let you put no steak sauce because he ain't going to let you

kill his flavor. That's what I like. That's what I like. I ain't worried about his flavor. This is my mouth. This is my palate. But see, that's what I'm saying. You don't know how to eat steak.

That's what I'm saying. You put an A1 and Worcestershire and all that stuff. But it's what I like. It's what I like. Why I got to eat the steak the way you eat it? You can eat however you want to,

but I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you. Baby! I'm finna find out what this wagon out shit about. I'm going telling you. Baby! I'm finna find out what this Wagonaut shit about. I'm going somewhere. Tell me where to go in Miami. Chad, tell me where to go in Miami.

Wagon Experience. What's that steakhouse? Who got that Wagonaut steak? I'm not familiar with it. I'm not familiar with Miami's eateries. What's the best place to eat down in Miami? There's a place on South Beach. What's the name of that place?

I mean, make sure they had the wagon I think I could order. I want to see this. I got to see this. Talk about they massage and they... What's the top steak houses in Miami? Claw? You ever heard of Claw with a K? Nah.

No. Dead ass. I'm not even playing. Man, I've been here all my life. Nah. Ain't, no. Dead ass. I'm not even playing. Man, I've been here all my life. Ain't never heard no goddamn claw. But, I mean, what you just said, I want exactly what you just said. I'm trying to see

what the difference is and I'm going to experience it and I'm going to talk about it on tomorrow. The Wagyu Bar? There's a place in Miami called the Wagyu Bar. Okay, Wagyu Bar. Baby! I'm going to sleep, man The Wagyu Bar? There's a place in Miami called the Wagyu Bar. Wow, okay, Wagyu Bar.

Baby! I'm asleep, man. Wagyu Bar. Let me jot that down. I'm going to check that out. So Sunday's show. Sunday's show, I'm going to be able

to talk about it. No, Thursday's show, I'm going to be able to tell you. I'm going to tell you about this, if there's any difference between my steak from Waffle House and the steak at Wagyu Bar.

Yeah, this steak here is going to melt in your mouth. My grandmother, Nicole Scott said my grandmother's from Mississippi and she listened to Muddy Waters and other blues artists. What kind of music artist

did your grandparents listen to? James Cleveland. What you know about Reverend James? What you know about Reverend James Cleveland? The Five Blind Boys. Shirley Caesar. Shirley Caesar. Shirley Caesar. Mississippi Mass Choir.

Mississippi Mass Choir. That's what they listen to. Now, before, I'm like, I'm trying to think. My grandfather liked Sam Cooke. Yeah. Uh, Mahalia Jackson. Ooh, come on now. In the Upper Room. Woo, come on now. In the upper room.

Yeah, so. There's one more. There's one more. I'm trying to think about. God, Lee. Reverend. Reverend James Cleveland. There's another reverend

that everybody listens to, especially from back then. Now I can't think of the name. Golly. Oliver Z said, the people need a nightcap times volume live NFL draft first round.

Ocho call it and John Middlecoff. Middlecoff. Okay, we'll put that in the works tonight was dope gotta see a glimpse of the competitive nature come by question is there anything you guys currently do that gives you competitive rush as football did yeah this well that competitive that competitive rush is for me we'll probably be boxing probably boxing because i my dumb ass excuse me i take it if i'm gonna do something i'm gonna do it the right way and i'm gonna take it to the extreme to know what it's like to experience what they have to go through yeah yeah james

crouch that was the other way james crouch james crouch yeah al green did you look Crouch. James Crouch. Yeah. Al Green. Just look. Yeah. Goddamn. Just one more. I'm looking it up too for this pastor. Bobby Jones. God, I can't think of his name. Dorothy Norwood. You already said

Shirley Caesar, huh? Yeah, Prime 112. Prime 112. They'll have it. Oh! I've been to Prime. I know Miles. That's the owner.

The owner, Miles. So, Miles, they got the... At Prime 112, they got the Waggoner State? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm... Yeah.

Say less. I'm going to try this. When I go to prime, I go prime maybe once, maybe twice a year. So I ain't been this year yet. So I'm going, yeah, I'm going to try this because I'm trying to understand what the difference is. And I always get salmon. I always get salmon when I go. So I've never had the steak there. So I'm curious with this steak that they massage and do all this stuff to. I like that. I feel good. I could talk for another three hours. Yeah.

Keyshawn Thomas, got a tribute for you guys. This couple had their first album sold in 1983 called Love Wars. Can you name this couple here? The brother of the artist married his brother's wife, mom. Goddamn. And slept with his wife. Damn.

I mean... ... I mean, I don't know. Bobby. Bobby Womack. Come on, you got to know that man. You supposed to that, man. Oh, Bobby. One of the greatest. That's when music was music. That's when the men used to beg

for their women. Yeah, they beg now. Woo! Boy, music will never be the same, boy. That goddamn Lenny Williams, that goddamn Bobby Womack. No big Lenny. Lenny, Teddy P, all the guys back then. Yeah, they, yeah.

I got to take my glass off, man. Them boys back then, they used to sing. Function. They used to sing, man. They used to sing. It was different. It was different. It was different.

I don't even know how to explain it. It was just different. Think about the sound of the music back then. Think about the sound of the music today from an R&B standpoint or perspective. It was different. Unbelievable. I saw a tweet the other day.

Somebody say, the problem with the goddamn music today is the goddamn men stop banging on it. Stop banging it. Stop banging the damn music. Hold on. Didn't Bobby Womack end up marrying Sam Cooke's wife and daughter?

It was a lot of debauchery. It was crazy. I saw a special on Sam Cooke. Documentary. Yeah. Something like that. I'm going to leave that alone. Again, happy Easter, guys.

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