Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: LeBron’s cryptic tweet, the issue with the 65-game rule, Nicki Minaj vs. Megan Thee Stallion

Episode Date: February 1, 2024

Shannon and Gil discuss what’s next for LeBron James and the Lakers, Joel Embiid’s quest for back to back MVPs, and the Nicki Minaj-Megan Thee Stallion beef. #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So, Gil, what do you make about this tweet that said LeBron James posted a passive-aggressive tweet after Loft signed off on his teammates before the PR staff cuts him off. Where do the Lakers go from here? Because he's like that. I think the reporter asked him, is there anything that you want to say to your teammates

to play Boston tomorrow night? And he said, no, just do their job. Then after the game, he posts an hourglass. Now, I don't know who the hourglass was intended for. I don't know if it was Jeannie Buss who the hourglass was intended for. I don't know if it was Jeannie Buss or the hourglass was intended for his teammates. You sorry, time is running out on you sorry mofos or

Jeannie, time is running out on us or Darvin Ham, time running out on you for real though. What you think he meant? You remember that story you told about that girl asking for the pate?

Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, I think that LeBron was saying the same thing. Pack your shit, you out, right? Just go out. There's no conversation no more. Just everybody pack it and get on out of there, sweetheart.

Hey, I heard what you said, but look, the cab, that Uber outside, right? All y'all, there's Ubers outside. They waiting for you. Get gone. Get gone. We done. You ain't got to leave the NBA,

but you got to get the hell out of LA. Sir, boy to boy, they're playing for their lives. But Gil, they've stopped playing. I think they've given up like 135 points over the last five games per game. Now, I understand that it's kind of a little elevated because of the double overtime,

and I think it was, what, 140-something? It got to the 140. But they gave up 130-plus back-to-back nights to Houston and Atlanta. And they're supposed to be defense. The problem is this. Their game is harder for them. You know they rank last in three-point attempts?

They rank last in three-point attempts. Hell, they rank last in three-point bait, too. They just can't keep up. They just can't keep up and they don't realize if teams are shooting threes and you're sitting there trying to get to the free-throw line,

teams are going to blow you out. Yeah, because on most nights, the only way they're able to keep it as close as they do is because they go to the free-throw line so much more than their opponents. Yeah. But they're normally on keep it as close as they do is because they go to the free throw line so much more than their opponents. But they're normally on a nightly

basis losing the three-point battle by at least 15 points. No, yeah. This year, they probably shot more threes in 46 games, probably five.

More than the other team. Yeah, yeah. They lose in that battle on a nightly basis. And it's hard. It's hard to consistently overcome because threes are more than twos. That's why teams are taking more of those because they believe, hey, we 40% from three, we'll overtake the 50% from two.

So when you look at it, Gil, and that's why teams are obviously getting up more threes but it's hard on a nightly basis when a team is outscoring you by so many points from the three-point line to win ball games yeah and the bad part about the free throw they're winning at the free throw line with just two players it's not like they're all shooting free throws. It's not like it's Anthony Davis or goddamn LeBron. It's not like LeBron is averaging 10 to see. He's only

averaging five. It's really AD. Most of the time, they're hanging on AD's shoulders to get them to the free throw line. That is the hard part. Everybody needs to do their part to try to generate points. I like what Vando's been doing. I'm going to give him his credit. He's been doing very well,

putting himself in positions now to get easy buckets. He's not sitting at the three. He's slicing, cutting, diving. So you have hope, but at the end of the day, time's up. Time's up. Hey, I don't know if y'all watching Lakers, but I'm going to tell you what you do. This is what you do, right? There's this team, right? I think they play in they call it USC,

right? There's a player on that team. He has like, it's James on the back, right? It's James on the back, right? Right. It's James on the back, right? You cheer for him like he's your son. And therefore, the father of that son might consider you a friend and might consider you to stay on the team. Because other than that, God damn it, if he right now wants your ass gone,

you gone. 66 players has been traded when LeBron's on the team. That means he don't hold back from cutting the fat. D'Lo up until last night had played really, really well. Do you think D'Lo up until last night had played really, really well. Do you think

D'Lo still, because I thought he, look, he played a stretch, he had three straight possessions in which he turned the ball over two and then got a lucky bounce on the other one because he's about to turn that over, it got deflected, went to Anthony Davis and AD laid it up.

But then after three horrible possessions, he comes back and he hits a three and he pulls up and he doesn't even think about it with no hesitation. Gil? And this is the issue that's

this is the issue with someone like D'Lo. You mentally know you've been traded, so now you don't care. Now that you don't care. So you're playing free. Now you don't care, you're playing free because you're gone, right?

The D'Lo that we see today is the D'Lo that we needed from the beginning for us not even to be in this position, right? You are the third option. You are, it's not Austin Reeves, it's in this position, right? You are the third option. It's not Austin Reeves. It's not Lemon Daddy, right? It's not him. It's you.

You are the all-star player. You're the one who's been here before. You need to be doing what you're doing. I think because he feels he's free and he's out, he might as well just go out there and let it go, and that's what he's been doing. Right. But right now, I mean, Kobe of the Ozarks,

Austin Reeves has been the third most consistent player. Yeah. Behind AD and LeBron. And that's not, I mean, that needs to be D'Lo. D'Lo needs to be the third most consistent player. They need to be able to count on him on a nightly basis. Now, his average has bumped up. It looked good because he's, you know, had a couple of 30-point games in there,

and he's been in the high 20s. But he needed to play the previous 30 games like he played the last 10 games. Yes, sir. But the people that they're trying to trade for, I'm like, hmm. You don't like DeJounte Murray? What, he's about 6'2"? I thought he liked 6'4". He ain't D-Lo's size.

He not? No, he's not D-Lo's size. D-Lo's a big guard, right? D'Lo's a big guard, right? D'Lo's a big guard, so I'm giving up. I don't know. I do like the name is Baby Boy. I do like him. I watched him this summer up in

Washington, and he can hoop. He can really play. Baby boy, Murray. DeJounte? Yeah, he can really play. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, I don't mind it, but, you know, I never like losing height.

You know, but I guess when you got LeBron and, you know, AD back there, you know, it's fine. But, um... fine. But, um, they say Murray, they got Murray listed at six, five.

He ain't six, five. He looks six, five to me, but he, I mean, he could be that, that,

you know, lights, but he looked like, I mean, he looked long. I mean, he don't mean obviously ain't have any girls. He don't have any like do it,

but he, he looked long. He looked angular. I'm not even gonna lie. I'm just be honest. Like, you know, you know, uh, that kid in I'm not even going to lie. I'm just being honest. You know that kid in Detroit, Stuart?

Yeah. He was after me over there, right? Because I said some things. So you had to keep your head on the swivel. Yeah, yeah. I wasn't proud when I was sitting in the stands. I was kind of more on the low like this.

He might look a little bit smaller than I really think. So he really. So hold up. So how did this happen? I think I heard the story. Okay. You had said something about Isaiah Stewart on a podcast.

On your podcast. No. I. No, I wrote something. Okay. On Twitter. Yeah. I don't want to be.

I want to say he didn't read it right. Right. But, you know, I want to know. I don't want to say he didn't read it right. Right? But I don't know what college he went to, but let's just say he didn't read how I wrote it. What I wrote was, this is what you do in the NBA. You wait for your teammates to get around you, hold you back,

and you fake like you want to do it. Right? You don't get fined. You get to pretend you're aggressive. Okay. and you fake like you want to do it, right? Right. You don't get fined. You get to pretend you're aggressive. Okay. That's what you're supposed to do. That's a rule, right?

Right. I don't know if the blood was in his eyes still when he read that. Because he took it like you were scared, like you really didn't want to do nothing. He said, yeah, so you waited. So he came to me. He's like, yeah, so you think I waited till my teammates came? My teammates ain't here now. And I'm like, yeah.

Your teammates ain't here to hold you. He really stepped to you, Gil. Yeah, like your teammates ain't here to hold you back. God damn, boy, did you just... Did you just break in me? So, from there... So, what did you say? So, when he said that, what'd you say? Did you stand up? No, I know.

Hell no, Unc. What? Unc? Listen, listen. I'm a podcaster. I had to think about my episode. I got shows to do. I can't be dragged up and down the goddamn hallways over some shit he couldn't read, right? That ain't my goddamn fault because he couldn't read what I wrote, right?

I'm not sitting here trying to argue. Because obviously he must have knew I was coming to see me and he was triggered. Right. I'm not. Where is he from? Is he from Washington? Yeah, he went to Washington. Okay.

Yeah. Well, damn, Gil, you went to his turf. I know. That's what I'm saying. He pulled up. I'm trying to have a nice little conversation. And he pulled up. And I'm sitting here like, listen, I know.

Listen, I'm not even going to lie. When he said it, I had to go to Google to make sure I said what I said. Like, wait, what? Not me. So what did you say? Did you try to explain and say, bro, this is what I said. This is what I meant. I'm sorry that you took it that way.

No, because I didn't really, like, I don't remember saying anything bad about him. So I had to go back and read it and say, no, he read it wrong. No, he read it wrong. That's that public education. You loved him like Tom and Hearns had Mark. Hey, listen, I didn't want no part. Listen, I fight people I know I can

win. Listen, fighting, you only fight if you can win. If you don fight if you can win if you don't think you can win don't fight so when he said what he said, what did you say?

huh? say what? what you talking about, huh? you didn't say nothing I ain't doing 2,000 pushups a day what's wrong with you but you didn't say you could have said bro that's not what I meant

you took it the wrong way how do I supposed to tell this big dude he can't read just tell him you I said bro you took it the wrong way I'm saying look I understand ain't nobody took it the wrong way. I'm saying, look, I understand. Ain't nobody trying to get fined.

What I was saying is that, look, you wait till your teammates grab you. You act like you want to do something. Bro, I know you're going to squabble in the streets. But in the streets and in the game, it's something entirely different. You ain't trying to throw your career away. I hear you. But my feet was more on Forrest Gump style, baby. I was ready to run.

I had to stop myself from running. That's all shit I got a show to do. I know all white, uncle. I know all white. I couldn't be dragged up. Nah, Gil, you just got to. I mean, look, like, bro. I was like, nah, bro. I said, nah, you just got to... I mean, look, like, bro. I was like, nah, bro.

I said, nah, you just took it wrong. Yeah. Listen, just like... You know how people be talking on the internet? Yeah. They have that keyboard, they have the phone. When you see me, I'm one of them dudes.

Oh, nah, I don't have the same smoke once I see you. No. No, I pretend that I didn't say none of it. Unless I know I can win the fight in which 98% of the people I talk shit about, I probably can't win that fight. So therefore,

I'm ready to run. Right. I'm not even going to be ashamed. Baby, I'm out to run. Right. I'm not even going to be ashamed. Baby, I'm out of there. What is your take on you got to play at least 65 games to be eligible for awards? MVP,

All-NBA, Defensive Player of the Year. You miss, what, 65-17? So you miss more than 17 games. You're ineligible for those awards. And Tyrese Halliburton has an opportunity to get 40 extra million. He's probably, unless he, hey, unless he get on the ball here,

he gonna miss out on that bread. Joel Embiid has an opportunity. Now, here's the thing. If Joel Embiid said he doesn't care about the MVP, the only other trophy, the only thing that matters to him is the finals will get your big ass healthy. Don't worry about the MVP. And I'll get healthy and let's go win the championship.

Now, that's what he said. He said, because after he dropped that 70, he said, that's fine and good, but the most important thing to me is the NBA championship. Come on, you know that's players. That's player in media, right? What are you really supposed to say? Do you really supposed to be selfish and like, yeah, I'm going for that MVP, baby.

I need to show y'all that I earned this one. So I'm going to show you I'm done. He can't say that. You know, back to back carries a lot of weight. It puts you in a different category. Yeah, so I have to play. So a player, it plays the political game. Yeah, I don't really care about that.

I'm caring about the championship. Knowing damn well, you think I'm averaging 35 a game, to win back-to-back MVP must be silly. Now, they should have thought, oh, Gil, this is what those players should have thought when they were sitting their ass out and there wasn't nothing wrong with them. And now the owners and the players, hey, the NBA PA agreed to this. This is the rule that the players agreed to. So this is not something that's an anomaly, right? If I play under 64 games, my chances of making the All-NBA team is not that high, right?

It really isn't. Man, please. But if I played that dominant, I might make it, right? Right. You know what I mean? So what you're taking away is you're taking away the anomaly of it, right? In NBA history, there's only three players who's played under 65 games that's won an MVP, right? There's only three players who's played under 65 games that's won an nvp right there's

only been three right did they have great years right bill walton 18 and 13 who played that was that was that was the year that was the year he won uh they won the finals they won the championship in 77 yeah but george gert but he played 58 games george gervin played all 82 games averaging 27 yeah right so you know i mean he was runner up so you know unless like if it was the other way it made sense the fact that he's averaging 35 a game that oversees your number right yeah but guys were sitting out and it wasn't nothing wrong with them. So now what you've done is because

you were sitting out, so now we got to punish everybody. I believe there's something seriously wrong with Joel Embiid's knee. But because he and so many other players over the last decade had arbitrarily taken off, well, I don't want to play tonight.

I'll play tomorrow night. So the NBA said, no, we're not going to have you. We got games on TNT. We got games on ABC. We got games on ESPN. We got these games, and y'all sitting down. No, that ain't going to happen. We're going to stop it. So, okay, we're going to take money out your pocket.

That's the only thing that matters to you. Yeah, but like, there shouldn't, I don't think there should be a number on it, right? 65 games, there shouldn't be a number. Just make it simple, right? Just make it simple. Totals.

I've always believed in totals, right? Yeah, total. Play 65 games. No, no, no. Like total points. Like if you're the totals, right? Yeah, total. Play 65 games. No, no, no. Like total points. Like if you're the scoring leader, right? The scoring leader is who has the most points, not who has the highest average, right?

It's too late for that now. No, but that's how it always been, right? Who has the most points overall? When the season ends, if you played 50 games and you averaged the you know 35 right i played all 82 games and i averaged 27 and i have more points than you i am the scoring champ right the scoring champ the most points is the scoring chair the most assist is the assist leader. Well, that's how it will look. Baseball's not like that

because baseball goes by batting average. Somebody can have more hits and not be the batting average leader. But in football, it's numbered. It ain't no, oh, he averaged this many yards. Well, he ain't got the most yards, so he ain't the rushing leader. He don't have the most passing yards or the most

receiving yards yards but basketball but see that's why basketball and baseball stats are more or more sacred because you know what certain numbers are I mean if somebody were to ask okay

who has the most rushing yards what's the most rushing yards in NFL history you know you might know Emmitt Smith it, but you don't know how many. You see, if I'm talking baseball and I say 56, you know that's a 56-game hitting streak. That's Joe DiMaggio. If somebody says 300, you know that's a great batting average. Yeah.

But if somebody, like, you can't really, you don't really know sacred numbers in football. But see, but batting average is, but see, but the problem with averaging is for you to keep your average, you're willing to dodge smoke. Like, oh, I'm playing, like I'm averaging 35 and I'm playing against Joker with a, with a sore knee. Nah, I'm not doing that. I'm not playing against, I'm not going to play against this great defense with a sore knee. Nah, I'm not doing that. I'm not playing against, I'm not going to play against this great defense with a sore knee. I got to wait until I'm really healthy

to play against this knee. When it comes to totals, and you got somebody who ain't missing no games, and he has more points than you, you got to play. Yeah, I just don't understand, Gil, because when you look at it, but see, I don't know when it happened,

but, excuse me, guys. All the greats used to place 80 games, 78, 75 games. Somewhere along, like Greg Popovich started bulljacking when he started arbitrarily arresting his players. I don't know. They called it low management.

Greg Popovich started this. And now they're like, well, hold on. Popovich doing it. And look at these guys. They in the playoffs every year. They going deep. They winning championships. Oh, let us start doing it.

And it seems like to me the NBA want to claw some of that back. Okay, so now here's a real issue then. This is what we got to ask. The question, who is coming with the idea of the load management, right? Is it the players or is it the coaches and the staff, right? Because if it's the coaches and the upper management saying, hey, take today off, boom, boom, boom. Now, that should be infringement on contracts because you're telling me to take the days

off so I can miss enough games so I miss this $40 million. So now, somebody like Hattenberg, he's injured and he's ready to come back and they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. You didn't get cleared yet.

Hey, you're going to give me that $40 million. I'm going to lose that. Then I will lose. Yes. So for them, hell yeah, we want to hold you back so you miss the $40 million. We get to save $40 million on you. So we're not going to clear you. Right?

That becomes the problem, too, if it's their idea because now when a player has an injury and if the injuries 8 to 12 weeks that becomes 12 to 16 weeks now before it was 6 to 8 weeks out there now it's going to be a little bit longer because they can creep this game to save their money because these players can't make these all NBAs. Now the problem with that is, the problem with that, that they don't see the backlash of that. There's going to be non-all NBA talent making all NBA, getting that 40 million. So if Halliburton ain't getting it, that means there's going to be a player that has to sub in form that wouldn't have got it.

He comes to all NBA player. Now, now you owe it. His sorry ass 41 million extra because he's going to be a super max. Right. So it's going to slap you no matter what. Right. Yeah. And like a guy like Kawhi. Now, Kawhi's

played damn near all the games this year. But what about those years in San Antonio? Now, I get that last year, he was really hurt. But Kawhi was sitting there, and he wasn't like, nah, coach, I'm going to play. He's like, I ain't fighting. The coach said, I'm not going to play. And then it was a situation

where he had his, you know, hey, his uncle Dennis, hey, Kawhi going to play this mini game, blah, blah, blah. And they're like, no, we're going to take some of this stuff back. Well, OK, when we talk about the San Antonio, just from the history of it, we have to really take his side, not Pops at this point. Because whatever his side issue was, it hurt him for three more years. Not like he left and

then he was healthy. He had to be load management and miss back to back games in Toronto. It was still affecting him when he first got here. So we have to really assume that he actually was hurt. I think they were just mad that he got an outside source.

I think that was really the issue, that the outside source had to approve that he's ready to play. Are the guys playing too much in the offseason? Because it's hard for me to see where guys are playing. John Stockton playing 15 to 16 all 82. Jordan and Kobe playing 9 of the all 82 and Malone playing 8,

I mean 10 all 82s. How the hell are those players playing all 82 and these guys right here, you got to beg them to play 65. Because the problem is smart people who thought they were smart

gave information and they do not understand an athlete. Right? How much are you bench press on? Right now, not a whole lot. I haven't been press in almost two and a half years. I kind of tweak my pegs so I just do dumbbells. But I probably could go give me a month and a half,

I probably could do 150 for 10. But right now, I can do 130 for 10. Okay, you just said it. Give you a month and a half, and you can do what? 150 for 10. 150 for 10. Now what if I tried to make you do 150 now? I'm going to end up hurting myself.

Exactly. The problem is, is these guys' bodies are deconditioned, right? They rest so much. They told them, hey, don't do the sand workout. It does this. Don't work out that much in the summer. Hey, training camp is going to come up. We're not going to live.

We're going to do the rubber band stuff. So now you have the muscle mass that looks like it's explosive. When it decides to explode, it doesn't have the strength in it, right? So you got these guys who are resting so much that they are deep conditioned. So when they decide to go and jump, they're hurting something. They're hurting something versus the guys who are sitting there lifting every day, they're running, they're playing, and their bodies is used to

actually going through this stuff. I'm playing 48 minutes, I'm out there running the beach, I'm out there doing the Western Ames, right? So when you go out there and play, your body's used to all kind of tweaks, these guys are not.

So they have the most rest, but has the most rest, but has the most injuries. That means your calculations is wrong. Right. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company.

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Guys, when I said I could do 150 dumbbells, that means 150 in each hand. Not 75-75, 150-150. Clearly, when y'all go to the gym, y'all on y'all damn phone.

Because there ain't no way in hell y'all actually thought I was doing only 150 pounds. You guys have seen me actually upload footage of me doing three-fifth, what did I do? I did four-five for triples. I was doing 365 for eight reps. For God's...

Some of y'all in the chat, y'all guys stayed in the same home room all day long. Ain't nothing, Ailey? This is how I know. Some of y'all had two recesses and two naps. God dang it!

I'm not even going to lie to you. I couldn't fan them. The 75 you were talking about, let alone the 150. Those are the ways you look like. Who the fuck is grabbing that? Yeah, you were like, I go to the gym and I'm the only one I've never seen. I think I might have seen in my seven years at this gym that I go to.

I think I might have seen somebody take the dump to 120s. Now, the gym that I go to in Atlanta, they go up to 130. Now, if I wanted to go upwards of that, they go up to 130. Now, if I wanted to go upwards of that, I'd probably have to go to Gold's Gym in Venice. I think they go to like 240, 260. But

when I was like playing, I could go to like 170s for six. 170, 170. But only two people have ever done those 170s, me and Ronnie Coleman. Ronnie Coleman was eight-time Mr. Olympia. He did the 180s.

But I'm the only other person other than him to ever do the 170s. And I remember Rope Man, who was my trainer. And I felt good because when I was like really really into it Gil I would warm up and I would start with the 140s so we would do 140 for 10 we would do I'd do 140 for 10

150 for 8 160 for 8 and then that day I was like Rope I feel really good he's like dog he always called me dog I called him I said Rope I said Rope I feel really good he's like dog he always called me dog I called him I said Rope I said Rope I feel good today Rope I think I can do it so I hit the 170s

and I was like damn I said damn Rope that felt easy he said dog go ahead do it dog do it dog and I thought about it I said I get him next week I get him next week he said dog I'm telling you you can do him and I never touched him and I said, I get him next week. I get him next week. He said, don't. I'm telling you, you can do him. And I never touched him.

And I never even attempted again. That's the only regret that I really have. Because I could damn lift 600 pounds. I could do, I mean, in my prime, I could do four or five for like six or seven reps. I could do 315 for about 18 reps. So I was like really, really strong. I could do 315 for about 18 reps. So I was like really, really strong when I was like doing it. I stopped squatting.

When I was in college, I could squat like 580, which was, you know, I was like, you know what, I think I'm going to get to 600 and then I'm going to stop. And I remember my brother telling me, you're going to lift your weight into a three-point stance. I said, nah, man. He said, bro, I'm telling you, ain't no wide receiver in the NFL

benching 500 pounds, squatting 600 pounds. Because at that point in time, I said, I'm going to be the first 4'6 guy, a wide receiver that can bench 400, squat 600. He said, what you're going to do is lift yourself into a three-point stance. I said, damn, if I ain't lift myself into a three-point stance, it'll go from a wide receiver to a tight end. But at that point in time, that's the only regret, Gil,

of anything that I've done as far as athletically was not doing those 180s. Because I know I'll never be able to do them again because I'm not going to, I'm not going to, I'm 55. I don't need to, I don't need to,

you know, do 180s. But I know, give me a month and a half to get back into a groove because I kind of been hit or miss. I've been making myself go. I even went to the gym today on a Wednesday, been making myself go. I even went to the gym today on a Wednesday, which is the first time I've gone to the gym on a Wednesday since I've

been in L.A. But I got to get back into a schedule. I got to get back into a routine. And so that's what I've been able to do. So give me a month and a half. I'll be able to do 150s for 10. You got all the muscles. What you need? You need to go in the gym every day for. Huh? Okay. I'm sorry.

I'm KD Street. When I was 19, I had 35s on both sides. At 42, I done graduated. What you got? 35s on both sides, just a different color. What is wrong with y'all? If I want to get tired, I don't go up in weight. I just do a little bit

more of the same weight. I don't even know if I can do 40s. 35 is my max. I go straight to, hey, sweetheart, what you going to do with those? You going to squat? I need those. Whatever I'm going to do right here, whatever I'm going to lift, 35s

is it. After that, they hurt. They hurt. They hurt. That's the thing. I don't really lift heavy like that anymore. I just got to the point where I'm like, man, I'm 55, about to be 56. What the hell I need to be 255 and all

that stuff. I'm about to come on down. I'm about to come down to about two. I'm going to come down to like 242 and I'm going to stay to get it 242. I'm about to come on down. I'm about to come down to about two. I'm going to come down to like 242 and I'm going to stay to get it 242. I'm like 255 right now. Come work out with me, young.

Nah, I ain't getting nothing. I ain't getting nothing. First of all, we're going to spend the first hour just booty watching, right?

I got to get you acclimated with all the young things in there, right? Hey, you got them girls in there with them giddy girls on.

Yeah, stay away from that. I got that one. I did that one. I did both of them at the same time, right? Hey, you got them girls in there with them get it girls on? Yeah, yeah. Stay away from that. I got that one. I did that one. I did both of them at the same time, right? And then once we... But see, here's the thing though, Gil. I got to have some kind of weight to me because I can't have dudes walking up on me

thinking they're going to punk me because there ain't no punk in Sherman Shaw. No, see, I ain't got those problems. No, I don't. Look, if I'm sitting down, ain't nobody coming to stand up over me. That ain't going to happen. So that's why

I stay to myself. I go to my little places, my little off-the-wall places. I stay to myself. Hey, that ain't going to happen. We've seen you with the grisha, y'all. Like, trust me, we know, right? Me, the only person that I felt comfortable with was probably T.

Oh, I can get him, right? The rest of them, they look athletic. T, oh, I can get him. The rest of y'all, yeah, I'm gonna shut the fuck up back here. That's me, y'all. But, you know, he and I had a great conversation. I was like, man, I ain't mean no harm. I said, bro, all I know is I heard

what you said, and when I whirled around, at that point in time, now I'm on one. So at that point, at that point in time, honestly, when people say they black out, I believe them. Because at that point in time, I completely forgot I was at the game. At that point in time, I'm at a cookout, I'm at a bar, I believe them. Because at that point in time, I completely forgot I was at the game.

At that point in time, I'm at a cookout, I'm at a bar, I'm at something, and I'm not even looking at them. I'm not even looking at them. All I know, I say, if one guy step over that line, it's over. Hey, man, you scared us. I said, bro, I don't know where

y'all from. I said, maybe y'all wired like that, so if somebody big, you get scared. I said, bro, I don't know where y'all from. I said, maybe y'all wired like that so if somebody big, you get scared. I said, bro, I ain't like that. I said, I hate that I put myself in that situation. But Gil, when I say I blacked out, I honestly did. I forgot that I was at a game. It wasn't until I got back because the security took me back in the hallway and they was talking to me and I could hear them talking. But I'm still I'm highly agitated.

So at that point, and I remember just like this, like, hey, hey, hey, you good? You good? You good? And I'm thinking to myself, why are you asking me, am I good? So I'm like, as I'm calming down i'm like oh man i said oh man i said man i don't messed up i said my sister gonna see this i said my brother gonna see this my kids my kids gonna see this i said man at that point in time i mean the job hey it is what it is if they and fox want to move in a different direction they got to do what they got to do at that point in time the only thing I'm thinking about my sister my brother and my kids I said

they're gonna see this and I said oh man I said that oh my god and I remember looking down at my phone and training everything is just like I said man Shana you done messed up now at that point in time Gil ain't nothing I could do. So if Fox come in and say, we want to go in another direction, which we ended up doing six months later, it is what it is. Hey, I'm wrong. I'm dead ass. So I was wrong.

I handled it poorly. And like I said, and I apologize to the Grizzlies and Dylan Brooks because it shouldn't have got that way. You know, I just said what I said. I mean, I didn't think it was that bad, but okay, I get it. I get it. I'm a fan. You know, I'm trash talking, going back and forth.

But I was wrong. I was wrong. I should have just sat my ass down. And that's what I do now. I go to the game. Hey, hey, bro, how you doing? I leave it. I leave it alone.

But, hey, Gil,ail like i said when people say they black out i believe them gail i could gail i completely forgot i could honestly i couldn't hear anything it was like i was at a game and like like in the fourth quarter and i need to make a play and everything is hush every Every football moment, Gil, everything was calm. All those fans, I couldn't hear a thing. And then all of a sudden, I heard guys talking. I could hear John talking at that point in time. And, you know, everybody came running.

And then I'm like, so I'm like, boy, I ain't got nobody with me that's going to squabble. I said, boy, I'd give anything to have my boy. I don't need, if I had Burns, if I had Bucket, I said, I'd be good right about now. I said, I'm by myself. I said, oh, well, it is what it is. I said, but boy.

And so by that time I hear T, I was like, bro, y'all not gonna do nothing y'all doing all that talking ain't gonna do nothing and then T says I will who said that everybody's like who said that so man and so after I done calmed down we came

back there he said man let me talk he said let me talk to you I said man what's up T he said bro I said what we doing I said bro I don't know what we doing I said but bro I'm's up, T? He said, bro. I said, what we doing? I said, bro, I don't know what we doing. I said, but bro, I'm glad you came and talked to me because you're grown, I'm grown. I'm glad we handled the future situation.

I said, but bro, you can't say you're going and when I'm in that state, you can't say you're going to do something because I'm going to need to see it. I mean, it is what it is. I'm going to need to see it. I mean, it is what it is. I'm going to have to see it. I think you need to put those 170s down.

No, no, no, no. No, Gil. Gil, real talk. Had I been in the league, oh. That's what I'm saying. When you at 35, you ain't got to worry about none of that. I can tell you this. I've never Jay-Z'd. I never blacked out, ever, right?

I can tell you this. If shit gets them popping, I got to know where to run. Hey, I'm not even lying. Somebody sent me a DM and said, I remember talking to you in the mall. Yeah, I was talking to you in the mall and a fight broke out

and you bounced and left the mall. Yeah, that's talking to you in the mall and a fight broke out and you bounced and left the mall. Yeah, that's me. God damn it. Yeah, I'm out of there. My feet work very well. Nah, Gil, for the most part, Gil, I've never really been a fighter. I've always tried to defuse the situation. Like, when I was in college,

I was the guy, look, I've always been the leader and so I've always, you know, I've always tried to keep my guys under control, even on the team. And I know guys more times than not, the guys on the team, they're probably going to be able to beat the college, average college dude. Not always, but for the most part. But I know how my guys are. So if one of them fighting and they losing, they're going to jump in. Yeah.

And so for me me I always try to defuse a situation like even if I saw one of my teammates talking to a young lady and I know she had a boyfriend I'm like bro let that go man man fuck bro let that go I said because

if somebody was talking to your girl you feel some type of way I know you so let it go give that man his respect. You know, we at the game. You know, we at somewhere used to... We're not going to do that. We're going to be respectful. Now, hey, if they break up, but nah, bro.

Just because you on a football team and you this, you that, let that go, bro. That ain't it. We don't need that. We don't need them kind of problems. Because if something go down, T5, we're going to ride. Ain't nobody on the yard, not the campus, not the Qs, not nobody, not the basketball team, the baseball team,

no other team going to mess with us. We knew that. So let's just, hey, we got to keep the peace, bro. We got to go to school here. And I don't want to be having to look over my back. Even when the guys came out the city, there's a situation where guys came out the city well hell I'm

you know me I got a whip Gil so I'm all at the car wash I'm on 37th and Bull I'm all over I'm at the barbershop I'm on the west side bro they catch me sniffing because of some foolishness y'all did nah bro we're not for to do that so I've

always been a guy to keep the peace. Now, hey, I'm gonna try to say, hey, bro, hey, let that go, man. You know, you know, sometimes guys like,

man, forget that. You know, he's saying this, bro, come on, bro. I'm trying to, hey, if I turn this pit bull loose, he go.

So that's how I am, Gil. Now, as I got older, like I said, man, that was honestly, that might have been one of the worst moments of my life because I put myself in a situation I should have never been in because once he said what he said

I should have let it go but you know oh shit I never got to worry about that trust me god damn it nah hang out with me young boy Yeah. I never got to worry about that. Trust me, God damn it. Mm-mm. Nah. Just hang out with us.

Hang out with me, young boy. We'll be, listen, we'll be running together. Now, come on. We got, come on. Now, I'll be pushing you. I ain't got too old to run. The hips ain't going to let me run. Then we can walk real fast. Hey, Gil, we got to, hey, Gil, we got to make a stand.

We got to make a stand, Gil. We got to be, hey, hey. Make a stand. I'm the first one to get hit. Always go for the weak link. Oh, yeah. But that's what I'm telling you guys. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

I put myself, as old as I am, that's the first time I hadn't been, I mean, I hadn't even been in an argument probably since had to be in my early 30s, I got into with a guy at the barbershop because he was talking some stuff that he shouldn't have been talking.

And that was the only time I said, bro, I said, if somebody want to know something about me in here, they can ask me. They don't need you repeating what happened at Savannah State bro I said all I'm saying is hey keep my kids keep me and my kids out your mouth that's all you got to do

I'm done with it I said bro you ain't finna talk me to death now what you want to do it's simple as that you not finna talk me to death what you want to do it's simple as that if you're not going to talk me to death what you want to do I hope he said well shit

I was planning to talk to you to death because I ain't got no hey he left and didn't come back smart man

see he ain't never I don't think he ever came back to the barbershop hell no there's a big in that barbershop

I'm going to the one around the corner. No, but like I said, he said some stuff about my kid. I don't play about my kid. First of all, it ain't none of your business about my kid. So I just like, hey, let that ride. On the fifth day of the on-gun feud,

Nikki invoked Rihanna to claim that Megan tried to force sympathy on herself as a victim of violence. She also refuted that she encouraged her fans to approach or desecrate the grave site of Megan's late mother. Nikki speculated that

Megan's management company, Rock Nation, has launched a smear campaign against her and accused Megan of seeking sympathy and controversy to boost her career. It's so obvious she wanted a Rihanna moment so bad, referencing the Chris Brown 2009 assault on Rihanna in which her interview with ABC right after. In April 2022, Megan discussed being shot by rapper Tory Lane. Nearly two years prior, with Gayle King on CBS this morning,

on CBS Morning, Nicki implied that Meg Thee Stallion can't succeed without provoking her. What's your thought? Have you heard the beef? One cow,

Nicki came out with Bigfoot, I guess it's in response to Megan's hiss. So what's your take on that? When it comes to just female rap as a whole, I don't

like the industry because there's only three or four, and the fact that there's only three or four, why is there always beef, and why do everyone want to create a beer with the three or four? I came up with the Missy Elliott era where they had songs, Ladies Night, where you had all the greats get on there and they put great music.

So the fact that all the rap women are beefing or they're linking up the beef kind of just stops you from wanting to just be a fan of female rap right you know so because because of like let me know when you know cardi b nikki and megan estallion get on a song together and put some great music right yeah you know but so but the fact that it's only three or four of y'all and the four of y'all is all beefing, I'm cool on the situation,

right? They're going to have ins and outs on each other, and from there we're just going to be listening to just listen, right? We don't care. No. Man, we don't care. No. Man, we don't care.

You know what I mean? This big foot, little foot, right? I mean, she's six. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But she's stacked up, though. No, no facts. I wouldn't mind. Man, hey.

Listen, listen, like... Last time I seen something stacked like that a long time ago I was in the library they had books it was summer it was stacked up the one you supposed to get read for the summer I'd rather them make music together than beef that's how I look

yeah I agree with you I don't even like the guys beefing I mean look I understand I mean you know what I think look I go back when LL and Mo D dropped a diss track and then you got

Ether and you got No Vaseline and you got I think KRH1 and him and Boogie Down Production they dropped one LL had another one with Cannabis I mean I can do without it I mean I get it

you know as musician it's just like sometimes in NBA right we wish we seen seen certain matchups. We wish we'd seen Kobe versus LeBron in the championship, right? The history, we didn't get to see that history, right? Prince and Michael Jackson doing some type of collaboration, right? There's just music that these greats because they're beefing we as fans get them we miss out on it because some of the best artists when they collab

shit is fine yeah and y'all can't get mad if somebody else come to the table and start hating on them because they knew i mean i mean i like damn let them get this bread look there's enough money out here for all of us to make no matter what genre no matter what field that you're in if you're an actor you're an entertainer you're a rapper you whatever the case may be you in podcasts enough money for everybody

and I don't have to talk about you to bolster my career I mean I don't get anything talk about you to bolster my career. I mean, I don't get anything out of that. It's the female rap, man. It's just something about, like, they just want to keep the beef alive. You know what I mean? I'm like, the Missy Elliott is where I, like, where's that?

Where's that connection? Like, you know, it ain't it. Thoughts on the rumored relationship between Drell Michelle and Jalen Green. Joe Budden called her a predator. I don't know. Listen, for me personally, I don't know a whole lot about her. I mean, I know she dated. What's the guy from the Cowboys?

Oh, Orlando Skandrick. I think they have a child together. But that's about the extent of what I know about her. I ain't into that kind of, I don't really go that deep into it. Ah, damn, Gil, why you up there got a stone?

Ah, damn. Ah, this mofo. No, stop. Man, Gil. Gil, this man set up his strong face. I was here talking, so you know a lot about him. Hey, your research chiefs are researching. I'm over here thinking about man yeah you know

hold on this ain't Megan Wearsize talk about Megan Wearsize man 13 I don't care she got a 15 I'll take them here I'll take the bro if she wear tails I'll take a round on the proper I know a little something

something so what's going on what's your look Uh-huh. Yeah, I know a little something, something, something. No, I'm just kidding. So what's going on? What's your look? Me, personally, do 21. I mean, we all have. I look. 40 ain't old.

No, 40 is not old. But, hey, when you 19 like your boy was, hey, it is what it is. You know. She's in the throne when She's 39, right? 39, yeah, yeah. Just 39, okay, 39 ain't nothing wrong with that. The real problem for a lot of women that's dated very successful men with money, right? When nobody their age wants them anymore, because they don't have a

wife, they married, they done did this, the only way you survive is to go backwards. Mm-hm. Because the only people that's going to take you serious is someone who don't know you or someone that idolizes you.

So some of these older women that has names that are famous, right? The men in their age group know them. We could, right? The young people who's looking through the magazines, like, oh, it is you. They appreciate that woman. So yeah, it might look sideways, especially if it was men, the man is older and

a woman younger. Yeah, that'll look frowned upon. And I mean, the real question is, what the fuck are y'all talking about 39 and 21? But I'm sure that, hey, do what we gonna do. But for the most part, those women really ain't got

no outsource in a sense. Nobody their age wants them, so it's the people that's going to make them feel like they're wanted will be the younger generation of men. That's why some of these older women are coming back and like, hey, young fella, I'm being a club

you want a playstation I got a little xbox little xbox little xbox customs for you rockets but look at this point in time I'm sure they know who she is

I'm sure even if you're 21 you probably know some of the guys that she's been with and that's not a knock because if you're a professional athlete, women might not know all the women because it's not, you know, because like, I mean,

for this topic, I looked and saw that she had dated, I was like, well, damn. But guys are a little bit more secretive. And so a lot of the people that, I don't know if you want to call it date, you know, smash and dash or whatever the case may be, guys

try to keep that stuff on the hush. But when you're a female, it's kind of hard because the word's going to get around because guys talk. Guys have turned into brawl these days because when I grew up, that thing was hush. You ain't kiss and tell. You didn't know.

But now, bro, why I care? You know I used to... Okay, bro. You ain't messing with the nice. You with me now. So, whatever. That's the athlete. That's the young kids. Now, there was girls that I know that they got three or four dudes on the same team.

Full flow, full weight, flow, three, flow, 12. Right. And that's just the facts. But, you know, these young generation kids, just like when we was young. Right. We're looking at these women like these are the like in his world, this is probably one of the finest women that he's ever seen, right? So to him, the pants don't

matter. Hey, Gia, I don't know about you, but I'm just trying to find one of the most jet centerfold that I used to have stapled to my wall in college. And I know they're probably about 70, but let me catch one slipping. Listen, we used to be in there like, hey, that's Pinky at the game.

Pinky from the board? Hell yeah. Shit, I'm going to go ahead and take a shot at it. We don't care. Yeah. We don't care. Like, you know what I mean? We don't care, man.

Right. And that's where he's at. Like, at the end of the day, it's like, I'm pretty sure whatever she's doing, them 21-year-olds his age ain't doing, and that's her advantage. Because she's happy to be there.

She knows she's been there before. She knows how to play her role. She knows how to make him feel like a man and make him feel important versus a girl his age. Right. Think it's about her.

Yeah. And the thing, Gil, the thing is, is like a female, it's kind of hard for a female to be with an athlete and ever go back to a common guy. It's not, and I don't mean common, I'm saying, but once you get to that lifestyle of being and being able to go places that guys that work nine to five or that's not a professional athlete, so don't take this the wrong way. I don't mean common, but what I mean,

if you're a professional athlete, you have access to things that guys that work nine to five that's not professional athletes, that's not a celebrity, that's not a celebrity, that's not an entertainer, doesn't have access to. So once a female has gotten accustomed to that

or been in that, it's hard. That's why, man, she was with such and such. She was with this rapper. She was with this NBA player. Where does she go? Because she's gotten accustomed to dating a guy that can give her a lifestyle. So she needs that lifestyle.

It ain't even that she needs it. She's going to get the offer in it. No, she's going to get the offer in it. What is the Harvey, what's her name? Laura Harvey.

Right, we know who she dated, right? She can walk into any locker room and say, hey man, who want to date me? Go to all 30 locker rooms, you're going to have five to nine dudes raise their hand. Yeah. Her women like that, that look like that date options are limitless long as they look good because the younger generation looks at them like idols. The people their age is like now we

good on that. Somebody who's younger that's like my God, that's her. I want her, I got the money, let me go ahead and take my shot. So, women like that are going to always put themselves in position to find younger men, right? If you wanna call it predator, because they will do that to us,

they will do that to us. But in reality, there's not one man in here that's young that won't take an older woman, it is different. Older women treat you well. The older women seems creepy. That's just, I guess, that's how it looks. It's not a situation I can see if she's 35 and she got a 13-year-old.

She's a 16-year-old. Man, do a 21. You know what he doing. You know what he doing, Gil. Even at 19, I knew what I was do 21. Don't know what he doing. You know what he doing, Gil. You know what he want. I mean, even at 19, I knew what I was doing. And I knew her age.

And I thought it was kind of cool. You on your own shit. You just got to be careful on your wordage. You know, you can't you know, you can't say ma'am. There's a certain shit you just can't say, you know, being young and she older, you know what I mean? I call'am. There's a certain shit you just can't say, you know,

being young and she older, you know what I mean? I call her miss. I was calling her miss. I couldn't have it. I couldn't. I mean, Gil,

I'm from the South. And so, a lady that's older than you, I don't care if it's only three, four years. Yes, ma'am. Miss.

Yeah. So, I think it felt kind of good. Yeah, yeah. That's kind of good. I like that. Oh, man. You got a feeling all bad in here.

You know, you want me to know, man, what I say. She old hook. Ah, she loved it. Hey, miss. Yeah.

They say it again. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Leo, they say bitch, cunt, start. Yogic and B-A-D. Damn.

Shit. Man, what's wrong with him, man? I hate when people make it real difficult. So I'm going to go... I mean, he got his daddy legs this week. So I'm going to go Embiid. I'm going to go Embiid. I'm going to start Embiid.

I'm going to bench Jokic. I'm going to cut AD. Yeah, I'm going to cut AD. Yeah, I'm going to start yoke and bead. He's got stomach issue or he's got knee issue. I'm going to bench and bead AD. I mean,

you got to make it Luka. You know, you got to make it somebody really, really difficult. You got to make it Luka. You know, you got to make it somebody. You got to make it somebody really, really difficult. You got to make it Luka. Make it Jason Tatum. Yeah. Somebody like that. Florian Carlos Suba said,

Gil Wilbon versus Stephen A., Ocho, and McCants. Three-on-three basketball. No make it, take it. First to 21, who wins? Me, you, and Ocho? Me, you, and Ocho? Me, you, and Ocho? No, it's me, you, and Wilbon versus Stephen A., Ocho, and McCants. All right, look, you got McCants.

I got Stephen A. Smith. We're going to let Ocho just get dizzy out there trying to use his speed. Man, y'all need to cut that down to like first to five because we ain't going to ever get to 21. Listen, if you said if y'all set some screens, get your boy open, I got you.

Oh yeah, we can do that. Oh, we can do that. Ain't no running that. I'm thinking about my old shooting before I did that 12-25 we gotta cut that down make it to 7 make it to 7 you gotta deal

that is senior night I ain't play all year and they calling my name and getting the game that's how I feel right now Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said hey Gil if you could pick any NBA player, past or present, to be your teammate

for a two-on-two street basketball game, who would it be and why? Two-on-two street basketball game. Ooh, I would go with... Man, you're taking Jordan to Kobe. Man, stop over there like you pondering.

Street basketball? Yeah. You're right, I'm going to take just... You're right take I might take James Harden in that style or Kyrie Jordan and Kobe are we just playing street basketball or we got to do the tricks and stuff

or are we just playing regular basketball you're playing black top basketball like we grew up playing I just want to say Shaq but I'll take Jordan what about KD them outside rims man I know he's a sniper but

are we playing on double rims are we playing with the chain fit it becomes a thing right Asadur D said can we say Doc is NBA version of Mike McCarthy both won one ring years ago but can't get past

the second round of the playoffs I mean it's facts man I mean it's facts like I had to really look like look when people say why is Doc where he is Doc has done something that a lot of people just don't do when people say, why is Doc where he is? Doc has done something that a lot of people just don't do.

He's made connections. He's made friends. He's understood the survival by friendship. Yes. By connecting himself with people who are important, people who have connections. So when he's trying to go places and get places, he can call in favors and friends, right? You can't knock him for that, right? I want to be in situations like that. So when we question his resume, his real resume is his friendship. And for some people,

that's what matters. The loyalty that he has with his friends, and they're paying back that. So yeah, we're going to kill him for his resume. It's his resume that's behind the scenes that he has.

Somebody in the chat said they're going to take Kyrie in a street basketball. Yeah, man. He got that street game. Oh, yeah, for sure. He got that street game. Please explain to me why Doc River has a job and a choke more than Miss Nasty B with all them diamonds.

I mean, Gil just told you. Gil said he's made connections. And like I've met Doc, I mean, like I said, I don't really know the intricacies of what goes on behind the scenes, so I'm going to take Gil. Gil knows all that.

But he's engaging. He has a conversation. He knows the game of basketball. And he's an easy talk. He can talk, and he's very relatable very personable make you feel like you've known him your whole life i guess that's the that you know when we're talking about friendships when we're talking about just life you know

who we know our friendship is better than our resume that we have. Right. You know what I mean? When we make people feel good about themselves, they're willing to put us in positions with the power that they have, and that's with Doc. So I'm expecting his son to be in position at some point to get a chance to coach too.

Wow. We're going to take a few more questions. My boss is, uncoached to Jay, my boss is pushing me at work to be a leader, be in a leader position. I'm honored, but I don't think I'm a leader. He says, when I speak, people listen, but I don't know. Could you give me some advice on how to navigate and deal with it? Well, clearly your boss sees something that you don't.

And that's not an easy thing to do, is to be a leader, especially, I mean, it's a lot easier when you're younger because kids are impressionable, but now as adults, adults can make up their own mind. But that's really hard to say. That's something that, I mean, I don't really know the people that you're around. But for your boss to have that kind of confidence in you, that should tell you something.

Yeah. Like, you know, leadership is not about, like, dictatorship. You know, real leaders are bringing the best out of everybody that they're leading, right? So he feels that you probably can talk to people, they listen, they respect you. And to be in that position, you just have to understand when to push the envelope, when to back it off, right? So your job is basically to put everybody in a great position to be successful. That's what it is.

Yeah. You got to know how to talk because everybody's not motivated by the same tactics. Like, I would always say some guys you got to pat on the back. Some guys you got to kick in the butt. Some guys you got to tell a joke. Hey, man. Man, my grandma could have called that one. I mean, come on, bro. Hey, bro.

Hey. We all out here. You getting paid, too. Now you got to check, too. Yep, yep, yep. That's the thing is just understanding how to talk to people and talk to people in a different type of way.

Anthony Boat, yo, does your Charlie Brown shirt have a man? That's loose. That's Latin. What kind of unit? No. That's his real hair.

He ain't got no man unit on it. I mean, that's his real hair. Man, y'all know that man ain't got no man. Y'all keep the bull job going. Y'all keep the bull job going. Mr. Jock, what's up, 84 and Gil?

If guys had to get rid of one holiday, and it's between Valentine's Day and Halloween, which one would you choose and why? Both involve candy and being with loved ones. Man, Halloween don't involve being with no loved one unless you got kids. Halloween

for kids. But y'all done hijacked the holiday. How many times y'all go, man, we got a Halloween party, man. I got this Halloween thing going on. Grown folks done hijacked the holiday. Now, they're not going trick-or-treating, but they're folks done hijacked the holiday. Now, they're not going trick-or-treating, but

they're dressing up more than the kids. And they're thinking about their costume. I guarantee you people are already thinking about their 2024 costume. They're looking to see what's the hottest. Ooh, I will be this. I will be this. Now, that's

for real. But I'm going to get rid of Valentine's. Hell yeah. Valentine's. Because we're going to spend money to get nothing in value. We ain't getting nothing. I'm sorry. If you broke and you can't

get me what you need, what you can afford you got a friend, right? You got two friends? Go on. All you need is $3 up. Men, first of all, men get the short end of the stick on Valentine's Day.

Because contrary to what y'all think women, that hoo-ha ain't worth 15 grand. It ain't worth 10 grand. It ain't worth 20 grand. So I don't know who told you that it was. It's not. So you getting guys that they laying out

three Birkins or they buying you a whip or they got flowers coming from Beverly Hills all the way up to Malibu and they done rented out a whole... Then I got a $25 night room. Yeah, we the...

You know what? Now that I think about it, Gil, we get the short and the stick on every damn holiday. Mother's Day, the mothers get way more than the fathers. For Christmas, the mothers get way... The women get way more than the fathers. For Christmas, the mothers get way, the woman get way more than the man.

Valentine's Day, they get way more than the man. When we gonna get a holiday that we get to get one up? No, no, no. We do, we don't, it's not a holiday. We've been playing it. You know how your girl bring her friends? Yeah. And she expect you to pay?

Pay what? Pay over a month? You better get the hell up out of here. You better get out of your home. No, no, no. You pay. She got 12 friends? That's 12 dates.

I've been very fortunate. I've been very fortunate, Gil, that the women that I date is like, it's just like her and I when we very fortunate. I've been very fortunate, Gil, that the women that I date is just like her and I when we go out. I think I've actually only been out with a young lady and her friends.

Ended up like my friends are here. You mind if we go there? Probably since I've been dating 38 years. Maybe two or three times. You need to hang out with me. I don't. You pay for 12 people.

I don't. Oh, no, because that's 12 girls. I'm getting all 12 numbers. All 12. Hey, y'all see how I pay? I laid this out, huh? Y'all laid this out. They auditioning.

They auditioning. Sorry, baby. You want me to pay for them? They owe me. That's how we gonna do this. You don't want me to, hey, they see what I did for you. They gonna want the same thing.

They gonna want the same thing. I'm gonna entertain it. I'm gonna entertain it. I'm going to entertain it. I don't even know how to talk to them like that. Oh, easy. Easy, huh? You got the money. You just say, sometimes you just say the shit that come up.

I just say shit to see if it flies. Man, Gil, I remember one time I was at Denver. I was talking to this one chick, and her girlfriend gave me her number. I mean, I threw that in the trash. I said, oh, hell no. I ain't finna start that. I don't do friends. I'm good on that one.

No, man, I don't do that. Oh, that's the South. Oh, that's the South. Friends and friends. Hey, friends, relatives. Nah, I'm good. Come on, I came in good conscience. So, I'm cool with it.

Hey. And I know I've been in situations where, friend, they fell out. And they know I used to talk to one. What you doing? You know she wasn't. Baby, I ain't like that, baby. I ain't that. Come on now.

Whatever y'all got going on. You got me thinking that. I'm out here looking like a bad dude, huh? Come on now. Whatever y'all got going on, that ain't gonna bother me. You got me thinking that I'm out here looking like a bad dude, huh? You ain't no bad dude, Javon Gill. I'm just saying, look, I'm the type of dude that if I'm cheating on my girl and she walk in,

I'm not stopping. Huh? No. She gonna walk in I mean she got a key she know where you be I'm in her house or whatever

I'm gonna finish cause look my brain already processed you walked in and you run out I already lost you right now if I get up and I run after you what she gonna think so no I'm gonna finish Right. Now, if I get up and I run after you, what's she going to think? Damn.

So, no, I'm going to finish. I'm going to keep going. Oh, Lord have mercy. I'm not losing both for the same mistake. I'm keeping the one I'm with. So, I'm just going to go ahead and finish. I'm the type of guy I am. I need some more water on that one, Dio.

I need some more water on this one. Hold on. Just a second. Just a second. All right. Hey, Gil. I need some more water on this one. Hold on. Just a second, Gil. Just a second. All right. Hey, listen. I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm just being smart, huh?

You already caught me, right? Now, if I get up and chase you, I'll lose her, too. I lost two girls. Oh, damn. Yeah. Yeah, Gil. I admit, boy. I admit, you couldn't operate it because you'd have me in some stuff. oh damn yeah yeah Gil I admit boy I admit

you couldn't operate it cause you'd have me in some stuff you'd have me in some stuff nah and they gonna say nah you can't hang out

with Gil ah hell nah none of my teammates wise would have hang out with Gil nah hell nah I'm like

ah nah Gil I can't do that I'm just like. I can't do that. I was just like, nah, I don't do this. Damn. Okay, man. I know. I gotta get wholesome. It's too late for that, Gil. I gotta get wholesome, man.

I don't see that happening anytime soon, Gil. I really don't. I gotta get wholesome, man. I do get lonely sometimes, like on a Thursday, during the week or a Monday. They get lonely out there. Yeah, nah, Gil. I'm sorry.

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The link is at the top of the chat. Super Bowl party, Valentine's, St. Patrick's Day, birthday. Go out and buy yourself or someone that you love, someone special. Grab them a bottle. As a matter of fact, go ahead and buy two bottles. I would greatly appreciate that. The Bucks spoil Dame's return. special grab them a bottle as a matter of fact go ahead and buy two bottles we uh we i would greatly appreciate that the bucks spoil dame's return i mean excuse me the blazers spoils dame's return 119 to 116 celtics now lead the east by five games the suns kd goes back and they win. He scores 33, 136 to 120.

KD gets the win in his return. Return to Brooklyn, Dame does not get the win in his return to Portland. Thank you again. I'm your favorite, Uncle Shannon Sharp. That's your favorite, number zero. Let me see if y'all know what these are. Take a look at these, Gil. You know what these are, Gil? Oh, my.

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