Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Le'Veon Bell's return & Ocho wants Nicki Minaj on Club Shay Shay

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss Le'Veon Bell wanting to return to the Pittsburgh Steelers, the places coleslaw does and does not go, and Ocho pitches Unc on getting major female ...rappers to join him on Club Shay Shay. 0:00 - Leveon Bell wants back in the NFL7:00 - Where does the coleslaw go?31:00 - Unc and Ocho's favorite fights46:00 Ocho wants Unc to get major female rappers on Club Shay Shay #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Volume. Shannon. New customers can bet just five bucks and get 200 instantly in bonus bets. Only on DraftKings Sportsbook with the code Shannon. The crown is yours. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there.
Starting point is 00:00:56 And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let me go. I ain't tell you no more stories. Le'Veon Bell wants to turn to the NFL, implying he wants to play for the Steelers. I'll be back better than ever. Look, I'll be back. I'll be back better than ever. Look, I'll be back. I'll be better than I ever was, ever.
Starting point is 00:02:08 And I'll only come back for that one team. I don't got to say no team. Y'all know who it is. Steelers, of course, at 31. Yeah. I think I would like to see Le'Veon Bell back in a situational type role. But again, it's not the same offense that you were in when Big Ben was there.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Right. Things are different now. Things are different now. Obviously, I know you are exceptional at being somewhat of a dual threat, similar to Christian McCaffrey. Excuse me. Similar to Christian McCaffrey. But mind you now, Le'Veon Bell lined up at the slot.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Hell, he can line up at receiver. He can't just slam. No, he used to be able to do that. Okay, I see where you're going with it. I see where you're going with it. I used to be able to ride a bike. But if you gave me one right now, I bet I can get on and pedal.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Now, maybe not the way I used to be able to do it, but I'm sure Le'Veon still got a little something in the tank. I'm sure he does. I'm sure he does. I don't never want to discredit nobody wanting to finish out their dream on their
Starting point is 00:03:07 own terms. Yeah. 31 ain't that bad, is it, for a running back? What you think? But you have to understand, Ochoa, I mean, you saw him his last couple of years. Did he look like the Le'Veon Bell that you remember in Steelers? Well, based on where he was and they weren't using
Starting point is 00:03:22 him right for So where's Steelers going to use him? They got he was, they weren't using him right for what he was going to do well. So what is he going to use him? They got Najee. They got Jalen. Jalen Warren, I think that's his name. They got him. Hey, he nice. That boy fast.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Yes. He fast. Yeah. I mean, maybe Le'Veon coming in a certain role, you know, third downs, bigger. I mean, no, I think Najee is not as fast, not as elusive, but he's more of a big back, you know, running through you, stiff-arming you. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I don't know. You know, it all depends on the relationship with him and Mike Tomlin. You think Tomlin would give him a chance to give him a look at him? You know, Mike Tomlin's the Roonies. Oh, okay, okay, okay. But you know, Mike Tomlin has to stand on ten toes for him to even go upstairs for him to even get an opportunity.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Ocho, when was the last time? Have Le'Veon played in the last two years? He's been working. He's been working, though. That boy's been working. He's been boxing he been boxing running doing everything Ocho
Starting point is 00:04:26 you remember how you when you trained the whole off season yeah when you got in them pads the first Friday you was dog tired it was almost like
Starting point is 00:04:35 you ain't did nothing yeah I see what you mean cause it's different once you get together all at once it's different no matter how much training
Starting point is 00:04:41 you did it's different when everybody's together you get in shape by playing football oh yeah you get in shape by playing football. Oh, yeah. You get in shape for basketball by playing basketball. Basketball.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Yeah, you're right. You're right. I mean, listen, a brother can dream. A brother can dream. Woo! Kadarius Tony had a lot to say tonight, don't you? Yeah. Tony said on his...
Starting point is 00:05:03 Oh, Lord have mercy. What happened? What happened? Is it bad? On his IG Live, he said this? He said... Oh, it's O. Is it O? But he was on his IG Live. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:18 He was asking about his IG Live and the stuff that he said. Okay. Okay, okay. Media Day tonight, well, Media Night, he was asked about his IG live. And it looked like he was bashing the cheese when he said that he was bashing the Giants fan. I never attacked the cheese. He then said,
Starting point is 00:05:33 ask him. He's the number one receiver in the league. His response. Yeah. If I get the ball, if I get the ball. Hey, Hey,
Starting point is 00:05:42 Oh Joe. Yes, sir. He 50, 50. There's a 50% chance. He catch There's a 50% chance he drop it And then And no
Starting point is 00:05:49 He should be 33-33 33% chance he drop it 33% chance he catch it 33% he hits his hand And the other guy catch it I don't like where you going with that But I understand I understand why
Starting point is 00:06:01 I understand why You watch the same game You owe me $200 right now For the simple fact He wasn't going to drop a pass And he ain't going to get The money in the same I mean damn
Starting point is 00:06:11 He ain't get that Both of them The next day Wait I owe you $200? You owe me $200 Well I'm glad you I'm going to pay you at the show
Starting point is 00:06:19 I ain't seen you in person Because my Apple Pay don't work So I'm going to pay you I'm going to pay you at the show No I don't like the Apple Pay Apple Pay Who is Apple? Who pay with Apple? You don work. So I'm going to pay. I'm going to pay you at the show. No, I don't like the Apple Pay. Apple Pay? Who is Apple? Who pay with Apple?
Starting point is 00:06:26 You don't use that? What the hell? You think I'm a horse? What the hell? I don't want no Apple. There's no currency. There ain't no currency for me. I do greenbacks.
Starting point is 00:06:35 S&S greenbacks. I don't carry cash. I ain't never carry cash. I carry $40 on me. That's it. You owe me $200. I get money at the ATM when I come to Vegas.
Starting point is 00:06:46 You get in tomorrow, right? Yep. Yep, I get in tomorrow too. So I'm going to pay you. I'm going to pay you. I sure appreciate that. I'm glad you reminded me. So in other words,
Starting point is 00:06:59 he didn't take any accountability for the things that he had said on IG Live, Ocho. And why'd you go out there and act a fool Sunday? Why'd you go out there and act a fool Sunday. Watch you go out there and act a fool Sunday and remind a motherfucker what I can do.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Guarantee. Think about how this offense took off the moment that he went down. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. It did take off. It did take off. It did play well, but the defense carried the Chiefs to where they are right now. They was carrying
Starting point is 00:07:28 the Chiefs all along. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. That's true. You know what's funny? The fact that their identity is, we always talk about Patrick Mahomes this, Patrick Mahomes that, but their goddamn identity this season has really been the defense. Really been the defense
Starting point is 00:07:44 and spags. If you look at it for the most part and Tom Brady's Super Bowls, what was it? It was their defense and Tom making timely throws and timely drives and winning games. Right. Because with the exception of maybe his first
Starting point is 00:07:59 Super Bowls always came to his first like five or six, came down to a game-winning drive. A make or miss. But it was a one-possession game with the exception of the Rams. I think they won 13-3. And this last one that he won when he was in Tampa, I think they won like 30-something to nine.
Starting point is 00:08:16 But the five or six prior to that, one possession. Remember, it was a walk-off kick against the Rams, a walk-off kick against the Panthers. It was a three-off kick against the Rams, walk-off kick against the Panthers. It was a three-point game against the Eagles. And then they lost one possession game, and it was a one-position game against the Legion of Boom. So that's how the Patriots won a lot of their games. Defense was outstanding.
Starting point is 00:08:45 And Tom would find a way to keep them in the game. the Patriots won a lot of their games. Defense was outstanding. Very good. Tom would find a way to keep him in the game, and Tom would do what Tom does. He's done it so many times. He would drive the ball down the field, get him in field goal range, or he would score a touchdown to win the game. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Fan questions. Mod Squad asks, what are y'all thoughts on coleslaw? Coleslaw? Yeah. You like I got to eat coleslaw. Well, I eat everything. You know that.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I know you do. I know you do. I eat everything. I like coleslaw. I like coleslaw. Matter of fact, crazy, crazy, now that you mentioned coleslaw,
Starting point is 00:09:22 I haven't had it in a while, but I do get my coleslaw when I go to Church's Chicken. I get a number three. Number three, all legs with my apple pie, mashed potatoes, and coleslaw. Yeah? Mashed potatoes and coleslaw.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I go, uh, I only eat it if it's on a chicken sandwich. But if you just like... Why you gonna put coles's on a chicken sandwich. But if you just like... Why you gonna put coleslaw on your chicken sandwich? Nah, it comes like... What's that?
Starting point is 00:09:50 Yeah. Nah, because they got a... What's the name of this chicken sandwich? I can't think. Oh, Ding's Crispy Chicken Sandwich at Houston's South Beverly Grill, Hillstones. Hillstones are out here
Starting point is 00:10:03 in South Beverly Grill. They have what they call a Ding's crispy chicken sandwich. It has a coleslaw on it. That's the only time I'll eat it. I can't eat it just like get a fork and just eat it out of a cup or eat it out of bowls.
Starting point is 00:10:17 No, I can't eat that. Hell no. Yeah. But more times than not, I just get the burger. I can eat I eat that coleslaw You gotta take baby steps now Baby steps But I already know
Starting point is 00:10:32 But I already know you I mean You eat coleslaw You eat, you know You eat booty I know you eat coleslaw I ain't eat what you said You'll use the low
Starting point is 00:10:41 I know if you eat booty You eat coleslaw I mean just Probably eat coleslaw. Probably put coleslaw in the booty. Don't give me no ideas, man. Man, go ahead, old man. That's a good one. I like that. See?
Starting point is 00:10:59 I got to write that down. My old boy Rodney Dinkin said, you got me sipping this La Portier with a splash of water. You see what I'm saying, Dink? You like it too, don't you, D? Rob, you like that? Yeah. Open that thing up. You get to taste all the body.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Little marshmallows. Yeah, man. Yeah, well, I want to taste the marshmallow too. Everybody that's watching tonight, please subscribe. When we hit a million subscribers, I am drinking some Cognac La Poitier. I'm drinking it. So I take
Starting point is 00:11:31 a shot. I take a shot or I drink a lot of... No, no, no, no, no, no. It's a sip. A sip? Yeah, yeah. It's a sipping drink. You're smoking your cigar. You're talking with your homeboy. You're talking, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. it's like that yeah yeah yeah you don't take it to the end now
Starting point is 00:11:47 you want to fight everybody yeah I'm I'm thinking I could pour the cognac down down real back right Lord have mercy so listen and then like this this the ass crack and catch and catch the oh man oh I can't even
Starting point is 00:12:03 I can't even I'm sorry chat I'm sorry I had I picked the nastiest co-host in all in all of digital
Starting point is 00:12:13 Listen I got it If I'm a drink if I'm a drink for the first time ever I need the experience of me drinking for the first time ever
Starting point is 00:12:20 to be memorable and that's a memorable way that's a memorable way to go out Nah nah nah we gonna be sipping you know we gonna have the thing we gonna be sipping time ever to be memorable. And that's a memorable way to go out. No, no, no. We're going to be sipping. We're going to have the thing. We're going to be sipping. We got special glasses.
Starting point is 00:12:32 So, you know, the ethanol knocks down the ethanol. And so you just taste the cognac. And the smell, the scent doesn't overpower you. So we went all out when we developed this cognac. Okay. I don't know
Starting point is 00:12:45 about no alcohol, but I'm going to learn. I'm going to learn. I'm going to learn Thursday. Chase Dewop said, do cups really help football players? Hell no. Who the hell wear a cup? I ain't wear a cup. Football players don't wear cups. Baseball players wear cups. A cup.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Or hockey. Hockey players wear cups. Football player, bro, you can't fall. You can't even hockey. Hockey players wear cups. Football player, bro, you can't fall. You can't even run. How the hell you going to run? Man, you mess around. Well, you wear a cup in football. I hope you got all your kids out the way.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I hope you done had all the kids you want to have. You're going to end up with a testicle in your stomach. Oh, man. Petey Pablo. Hey, Unc. Would you ever get a smooth head like Ocho got right now? Yeah, bring that thing on down, baby. Nah, nah. Matter of fact, hey, Unc, you know I ain't finished cutting my hair, right?
Starting point is 00:13:45 I know you weren't. You cut before we came on. Look at the back. Can you see it? You can see it. Yeah, I can see it. I'm thinking about as a matter of fact, I'm thinking about going to Turkey in the next couple of years. Let him draw that line right there.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Right there. Yeah. Have me have my head. Come on out here like this. Right there. Not right there. Right. You go right there? Have my head come on out here like this. Right there. There you go. I'm going to Turkey. I'm going to Turkey.
Starting point is 00:14:12 2025 Turkey. Here I come. I like it. I like it. I don't care what y'all say either. No, I ain't getting no ball here. My head too big. I got a square. Blocks don't look good, Shane. It don't. Dan Boeing
Starting point is 00:14:35 asked, you mentioned that you had a girlfriend who preemptively took care of your needs and how that scared you at the time. Would you value that today? Of course. Of course. and how that scared you at the time when you value that today of course of course um but it just it just wasn't about the needs i mean yeah obviously to pleasure your man or your your woman is very important but to understand like he's he's feeling some type of way let him have his space
Starting point is 00:15:05 yeah let him have his space I'm gonna take the dog so the dogs don't get on his nerves it's just little things like that that you know over time that you know and you can sense and that's what I try to do I try to
Starting point is 00:15:21 like learn the woman that I'm dating and so I can nip things in the bud you know know, because a lot of times you saw this and you ain't even you ain't you saw me having I was telling you I was having a bad day. I called you at work. I sent you a text to say I wasn't having a good day. And then I get home and you got all this and I got to do all this and all that. So my job is to try to preempt anything like that from happening once you got home. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:44 My job is to try to make it easy on her and hopefully she could sense it and do the same thing for me but i would definitely value some of the things that i took for granted in my 20s absolutely but and when you're 20s you don't think um you're like oh man i had some days yeah man think about them well I there's no I mean for some people
Starting point is 00:16:11 there's the one that got away you know when you were younger but you always think about damn I wonder what so and so is that but when we're that age we all evolve
Starting point is 00:16:23 yeah obviously you're not going to be the same over time. No, no. And so it's just the chance are if maybe if you did do right or maybe you do if you did things a little different, chances are you probably wouldn't still be together any goddamn way. Right. Damn. That's crazy the gift of gab show said I'm glad Ocho got the right
Starting point is 00:16:50 one now when Ocho was going huh okay I'm glad Ocho has the right one now when is Ocho going to tell a breakup story look Ocho Ocho is a different place than I am. Ocho, obviously
Starting point is 00:17:08 Rel is there, and that's not good in his situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boy, you're trying to get me in trouble, boy. I told you yesterday, I told you, if you watched the show last night, everybody left me. That's all you need to know. Everybody. What is everybody talking about this Eli thing? What is Eli? What did Eli do?
Starting point is 00:17:24 Eli Manning. He a battle rapper. You ain't see that? Man, he got Eli rapper. Eli Manning. He battled Super Hot Fire. You don't know about Super Hot Fire? No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:17:37 What did Super Hot Fire do? Man, he's a battle rapper. Yeah. It was funny, too. So you got to tell Ash to play you the little line from Eli Manning he took a shot at Tom Brady alright we'll get it here in a playful manner though nothing
Starting point is 00:17:52 serious but it was funny as hell Brandon Bonilla Mr. Sharp not sure if you remember me but I shared a video on X and I told you a million followers coming and we're here. What do I do with a woman that had my children but doesn't believe in my venture ideas?
Starting point is 00:18:14 I've been great in real estate, but she doesn't appreciate that. But the moment I tried to start my own company and fail, she says I failed again. Now, the one thing that a partner should always do. Support. They got to prop you up. Got to support you. Because, I mean, she's no different than anybody else because they're going to tell you what a failure you are.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I don't need somebody in my own house telling me I'm a failure. Yeah. Nah, I don't like that. You got to deal with that. You deal with stuff like that on the outside. And when you come outside and when you come home when you come home the thought is well you know what
Starting point is 00:18:48 they can say all that they want to say I know once I get home my baby is going to support me whether I'm whether I'm failing or whether I succeeded at whatever endeavor it is
Starting point is 00:18:59 I want to do but having to hear that in your own household man you got to have a talk and it's not bro you got to have a talk Brandon And it's not fair. Bro, Brandon. You got to have a talk. Brandon, you did not fail.
Starting point is 00:19:07 You had delayed success. I like that. Success is right around the corner. You know, a lot of people think strength is about how much you can lift, but strength is overcoming what you didn't think you could. So, you're in a situation
Starting point is 00:19:24 where you're having delayed successes. It's going to come, but you need someone to always, that's one thing I'd always say, hey, you know, I've always had people that, my sister, my grandmother,
Starting point is 00:19:38 my brother, they've always been, and that's really all I needed. That's all I needed. I don't need the world to pat. My grandma used to always say, boy, you don't need no one to pat you on the back. You got two good damn hands.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Pat yourself on the back. So I played good. Even if nobody else tells me I did, I know I played good. I do something well, okay. I can't wait for the world to applaud me because if I wait for the world
Starting point is 00:20:09 to applaud me, I'm going to die when they boo me. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And so I understand I'm not everybody's cup of tea and we use tea
Starting point is 00:20:19 or I'm not everybody's favorite flavor and I get that. That's okay. That is completely all right. Yeah. But you keep telling me what I'm not. If you tell me what I'm not,
Starting point is 00:20:33 what are you? Nobody, nobody that's above you will ever say anything to put you down. It's only the people that's below you that try to pull you down to their level. You shouldn't be having to hear stuff like that in general from your other half.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Not your better half. No, no. I'm just saying anyone. Oh, yeah, I know. Yeah, in general. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, you know, I mean, I mean, why are you... I mean, people... I laugh. Someone told me yeah yeah oh you know you I mean I mean why you I laugh someone told me today Ocho because I flew
Starting point is 00:21:10 private I'm not a man of the people I said so yeah Ocho they said Jay Z they say Beyonce is a woman of the people so which one of y'all live next to Beyonce Beyonce which one of y'all live next to Beyonce?
Starting point is 00:21:26 Which one of y'all live next to Oprah? I guarantee you not one person on this chat got a residency in Montecito. In who? You see Montecito. Do you see how asinine that sounds? Because I flew private. But you don't understand. You see, you speak about things you don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:42 But anyway, how does me fly in private? Do you know what I've saved? Do you know what I've done? I don't sacrifice anything. I mean, if I got damn near 2 million miles on Delta, how the F am I
Starting point is 00:22:01 flying private all the time, Mocho? Do you understand how much you got to fly to get two million miles on an airline? Yeah, I definitely know because I got seven million. So I know. I'm with you when you're right. And I'm like, man, y'all need it. I bet it's
Starting point is 00:22:17 us. You know what? One time, you know what I want to do, Ocho. I want to go in. I wish I could just go into a Justin Timberlake or I could go into some of these Pat McAfee chats and see if they get some of the vitriol that you and I get. Oh, yeah, most definitely. Most definitely.
Starting point is 00:22:36 That's what I want to see. Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. Because there will always be people. There will always be somebody that will have an issue with something you have going on. And it's always the ones that have issues with what you have going on and it's always the ones that have issues what you have going on they the ones always watching oh they always watch they always watch why you why you mad yeah that i work that i'm doing that i'm taping to like
Starting point is 00:22:54 anywhere between eight and ten shows a week that i'm trying to maximize the opportunity that God has set before me. But you mad. Well, you should do this. You know what, Ocho, what you found out? And I bet you can attest to this. Everybody have brilliant ideas what you should do with your money. Your money. Ain't nobody saying, well, this is what I'm doing with mine.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Why are you worried? You're not concerned. Well, Shannon, I don't want you to go broke. No, you want Shannon to go broke so you can have something to talk about. I told you he up there flossing flying private. I know he ain't got it like that. That's what you want. You're not concerned whether or not I'm saving.
Starting point is 00:23:37 You want to say, I told you, you want to try to laugh. It ain't going to happen though. I'm concerned. I'm not concerned. You're not going to go broke. It ain't going to happen though. I'm concerned. I'm not concerned. You're concerned about what? You're not going to go broke. You're not going to go broke because I know you're 50% but I'm going to make sure you keep a nice
Starting point is 00:23:51 like 98% of what you make and I want you to keep it. Well, I ain't going to keep 90% of my weight because Uncle Sam already taking 50% of that. So you want me to keep 90% of the 50%? Matter of fact, listen, I can help you out. I got a little loophole. I got a little loophole where you can keep more than just, you can keep about 87%.
Starting point is 00:24:09 You know, I got a little loophole for you that we can keep most of your money. You ain't got to give Uncle Sam everything. I don't give him everything anyway, but I don't fool with Uncle Sam. Huh? I don't fool with Uncle Sam. Oh, but me and Sam cool now.
Starting point is 00:24:22 We ain't never going to be cool. Me and Uncle Sam, we're going to definitely be cool. He's the now. We ain't never going to be cool. Me and Uncle Sam ain't going to never be cool. He's the only man that ain't got no job and get 50% of your money off the top. Yeah, yeah, every time. But that's why I'm trying to give you the loophole. I'm giving you the loophole that the elites use, the one percentage use.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Well, I need to move to Tennessee. I need to move to Florida. Florida. Texas. Vegas. I think Ohio. Yeah. I think those are the five states I know off the top of my head that doesn't have state income tax yeah I think you might want to move
Starting point is 00:24:52 to Florida we're not living in Ohio I say we're not living in Ohio we can't live in no state Jordan from Ohio Ashley from Texas so those are already out so listen you might as well come to Florida that's already out so right, listen, you might be able to come to Florida. That's already out. So, right now, we're down to Tennessee. We're down to Florida.
Starting point is 00:25:11 So, we're down to Tennessee and Vegas. It's a no-brainer, though. Okay, Ash, well, damn, Ash! What she said, no. All you're doing is shaking your head. We ain't living in Florida. What? We ain't living, we ain't living. What about Vegas? Ain't nothing to do in Vegas? Ain't nothing to do in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Ain't nothing to do. Perfect. Once you go down the strip, down and back, okay, you done. Man, I don't spend no time on the strip. Now, Miami, me neither.
Starting point is 00:25:36 You know, I don't gamble. I ain't going to nobody's club. What chance did you go to Texas? Nah. Oh, the chance that I should live in Texas. Nah, it's overcrowded. You gonna deal with that traffic on that highway?
Starting point is 00:25:48 It's just like dealing with the 405. What you want? Yeah, I was saying, you talking about overcrowded. We got 40 million people in California. Yeah, it is raining here. It's been raining for two days. Oh, man. Hey, Rel, what's up, Rel? Send us some money, Rel The law
Starting point is 00:26:08 The law explorer I'm in my 40s and I'm focusing on my law degree I don't want love, is that wrong? No It's okay to love you More than you love someone else It's also okay To want something for yourself More than you want it for someone It's also okay to want something for yourself
Starting point is 00:26:25 more than you want it for someone else. It's okay to be selfish. I posted something to Michael Jordan and Serena Williams. You've got to be selfish in order to no great person will ever tell you look at the greats
Starting point is 00:26:41 and how great do you want to be? There's a price to be paid for greatness. And if you're not willing to pay that price, you don't deserve to be successful. You don't deserve to be great. You got to sacrifice. Yes. You got to sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:26:55 That's a part of it, Ocho. If you don't ever have to sacrifice anything, I want you to tell me what have you absolutely done. Because I guarantee you it ain't nothing have you absolutely done? Because I guarantee it ain't nothing. If you haven't had to make any sacrifices? Right.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Zero? Yeah. Nah, you ain't done nothing. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood,
Starting point is 00:27:30 CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide.
Starting point is 00:28:08 And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No.
Starting point is 00:28:43 It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Dominique said, Uncle Ocho, if you could wish my little cousin a happy birthday, Dallas and Landry, twins 11, and Denver 6.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Dallas and Landry are twins. They're 11. Denver is sixth. We greatly appreciate it. Happy 11th birthday, Dallas and Landry. Denver, happy birthday. Six years old. Thank you, Dominique, for watching. I greatly appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Ocho and I really, really appreciate it. Happy birthday. 11. About to be. You got a couple more years before you be teenagers. Whoa, whoa. Hey, we got 11 six-year-old watching? I got to clean it up.
Starting point is 00:30:10 I got to clean it up, my bad. No, Dominique is watching. Okay. They wanted, I don't know if it's a he or she, but they wanted us to wish their little cousin a happy birthday. Okay, I would just make a show now. Let me know.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Really, yo, what's up, Uncle Nocho? Me and my girl just had two daughters named Tyrell and her name is Shania. Can you shout us out? Okay, really, yo. Tyrell, Shania, welcome. Hello. Came out.
Starting point is 00:30:38 We are inside postpartum. So I guess if the wife, the girl just had daughters. They're twins. Tyrell and Shania. Congratulations, really, yo. Hopefully,
Starting point is 00:30:53 mother and daughters are healthy. I know you're extremely excited. Bro, you're a girl there twice at once. But congratulations, bro. Congratulations. Yeah, get back in there now. And listen, Radio, you know one thing you can't do now
Starting point is 00:31:09 as a father, listen, I'm going to tell you, as a father of 11, you can never end on even numbers. Ever. Yeah, you can. You're supposed to end on even. You made that bull jive up.
Starting point is 00:31:21 You don't end up on odd numbers. You end up on even numbers. No, the number of completion in the Bible is seven. So you always want to end on uneven, odd numbers. I'm sorry. On odd numbers. Yeah. How many books in the Bible? How many books in the Bible?
Starting point is 00:31:35 32. Yeah, you ain't know. I know. I done read the Bible front to back, man. Don't play with me because I get on here and preach to you. You going to preach? Go ahead and preach it. Huh? Go ahead and preach. I'm listening. I ain't going to do to back now. Don't play with me because I'll get on here and preach to you. You going to preach? Go ahead and preach it. Huh?
Starting point is 00:31:47 Go ahead and preach. I'm listening. I ain't going to do it right now because it ain't Sunday. I don't play with the Lord on Mondays. I don't play with the Lord on Monday. But go ahead and get back in there, man. Give her some time to heal. Give her about three weeks.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Get back in there. Ocho, there's not 32 books in the Bible. The Bible has 66 books. Yeah, you said, I'm giving you half of it. How many books in the Bible? No, that's not half. 32 is not half of 66. Well, I don't know what mad class you went to.
Starting point is 00:32:22 32 is half of 64, Ocho. Listen, I only read 32 of them I know it from back to back though what's the first book in the Bible huh what's the first book in the Bible Leviticus Genesis what's the last book in the Bible, Ocho? Appalachian. Revelations. That's what I just said. I said it wrong.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I meant to say Revelations. Ben asked, can we see your Super Bowl ring sometime? Ben, I'm going to have to go get them out in the safe deposit box. I don't normally have them on me, but at some point in time, when I'm in Atlanta, I'll go to the safe deposit box and dig them out. G. Ortega, what is the biggest Super Bowl upset in your opinion, and what's your favorite boxing match? That's for both Unk and Ocho.
Starting point is 00:33:16 The biggest Super Bowl, well, I wasn't, I mean, I don't remember. I mean, I guess people say the Colts, that's the Colts, the Jets beating the Colts. We upset the Packers. We're 11 and a half, 12 point underdogs. The Giants upsetting the Patriots in Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:33:37 What was that? What Super Bowl? In 2007, I forget the number. Those are the biggest off the top of my head. I mean, but that I can remember, I mean, we were 11 and a half point underdogs.
Starting point is 00:33:54 They had the Super Bowl. They had the reigning three-time league MVP, and the NFC had a 14-year run. The AFC hadn't won a Super Bowl in 14 years until we beat the Packers, don't you? So me, I'm biased. I'm going to say us.
Starting point is 00:34:11 But some people, obviously some people are going to say the Jets because that really forced the merger when the Giants beat the Colts. And I'm sure some people, the Giants, are going to say when they upset the 18-0 New England Patriots. You know what? That would be, for me,
Starting point is 00:34:28 too most memorable. Is that what we're talking about? When the Giants upset the Patriots and obviously the damn Patriots coming back against them goddamn Falcons. Man, that 23, that 28. But that wasn't an upset. They were favored. Yeah, but you're down 28-3, huh?
Starting point is 00:34:44 But you do realize like like an upset that means you have to be an underdog I feel okay but again NFL biggest game up 28-3
Starting point is 00:34:59 people I walked away from the TV I left home I left home went the TV. I left home. I left home, went somewhere else. When I get where I'm going, I look at the TV and I'm like, what in the world is going on? Because you expect the team to win with that kind of lead. The game is over. Or so I thought. Hell, when the Lions jumped out on the goddamn, what was they playing?
Starting point is 00:35:25 The 49ers? I'm like, oh man, well this thing over, man. But I didn't stop watching because I made that mistake. I made that mistake within that goddamn Atlanta, Atlanta-New England game.
Starting point is 00:35:37 So I stayed watching. And I remember, I remember tweeting it. I said, I don't know what adjustments the 49ers are going to make at the half, but at some point
Starting point is 00:35:44 the momentum in this game Is going to shift it's going to swing And boy it swung Boy did it swing in that second half What's your favorite Boxer match Oh that's a good one Probably Mickey Ward and Arturo
Starting point is 00:36:00 Gotti Yeah that's what I was going to say one of those Arturo Gotti obviously Hagler Hagler Hearn was going to say. One of those. One of those. Turo Gotti. Obviously, Hagler. Hagler-Hearns in 81? Hagler-Hearns in one and two. It's really good. Another one. I don't think Hagler-Hearns, they fought but once.
Starting point is 00:36:19 That was in 81 when they went three rounds. I'm thinking about Sugar Ray then, huh? Well, yeah. Sugar Ray and... Sugar Ray and Tommy Hearns had a one and two. That's a one and two, I mean. And that was a great one because I think Sugar Ray stopped him in the 14th round. Because back then, they went 15 rounds.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Right. What about... I think I like the clinical display and savviness and ring IQ of Floyd in the Canelo fight when he fought Canelo. That was a masterpiece of just pure boxing skill and ring IQ. He was surgical. Yeah. He was surgical. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Yeah. There were some good fights back in the day. You know, uh, there was some, there was some good fights, uh, back in the day. You know, you fight used to come on CBS. Yeah. I wish CBS,
Starting point is 00:37:12 I wish CBS would go get the rights again because now boxing is no longer on Showtime. Yeah. Uh, they talk about, uh, Castillo and Diego, Diego Corrales.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I like that. Who was that? You remember Margarito and, uh, Kodo? Yeah, they talk about Castillo and Diego Corrales. I like the- Ooh, that was a good one. Who was that? You remember Margarito and Cotto? That was a good one as well. Margarito had that plaster on his hand. Yep, and then the gloves.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Yeah. Was it Diego Corrales fight? That's the one where he kept getting knocked down and came back and- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that. Castillo. Yeah. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy said,
Starting point is 00:37:50 Hey, Uncle Nocho, if y'all had to describe your friendship in three words, what would it be? Like Sanford and Son? Which one is Fred? Who Fred and who Lamont? Oh, you're talking about
Starting point is 00:38:10 our friendship. I thought, oh, okay. That's a good one. And we completely... We're polar opposites too if you think about it total total and maybe that's why
Starting point is 00:38:31 it works so much because we're like so far on the different end of the spectrum like I'm over here and he's over here and you see all that space in between this dude here man listen i'm i'm living i'm living like you say you be living you ain't living but i'm living oh joe do you realize how much i've lived right right right you you've lived but you ain't live enough because some of the things i say
Starting point is 00:39:02 are shocking to you so that lets me know you ain't really live the way you think you have. Oh, I have. I just like, you know what? I don't ask God. He done got me out of some stuff. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. You done told some stories now. Yeah. You lucky. You really, you, but you, listen, you got nine lives like a cat. Yeah, but I'm saying how many have I used up? Six. And you talking about going living. You done used up six of them?
Starting point is 00:39:31 And from what I heard, six of them? Let's see. One, let's see. The AK kicked the door off the hinges. Put a gun to your head. Put a gun to my head. Walking out, Her car flat Again that puts you
Starting point is 00:39:46 In harm's way That's one Oh I got I had a couple of I might have to say those I might tell those I might have to tell Those stories
Starting point is 00:39:54 At the line Oh yeah Oh yeah Yeah Ocho Yeah I'm living I don't even know If I want to live no more
Starting point is 00:40:06 I don't know I don't know if I would If living requires me to be Anything like I was In my 20s Ocho Yeah Count your boy out You got to bring it
Starting point is 00:40:17 No no no Nah nah That's not that kind of living We on On a different On a different Spectrum of Living a different spectrum of living and different dynamic of having
Starting point is 00:40:27 fun and just experiences that we've never done before. That's all. We're going to get you there. Baby steps. We're going to get you there. It's all about finding you the right one to open you up. Who winning? Texas, Florida, Vegas, or Tennessee? Who winning? Florida.
Starting point is 00:40:43 I guarantee you that. Texas. Texas winning for real? I'm moving to Houston then. Nah. Yeah, let your boy go. Let's go. Let's go. Nah. Let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Don't do that. Houston is overpopulated and crowded But you get a lot of bang for your buck In Houston though for your place man I guess three more won't hurt the population Too much Listen but hey the price Point for houses in Houston is good
Starting point is 00:41:22 Yeah Boy you get something nice for a little knack. She can even get a house. You definitely could get a house. Okie dokie, y'all are the truth. Can y'all shout us veterans out? We love you guys. What kind of advice y'all have for Army vet with a family trying to start a family business and can't get help from the VA?
Starting point is 00:41:49 Well, first of all, Eldred, thank you for your service. Thank you. Myself, Ocho, and a lot of Americans owe you a great deal of gratitude for what you've done. Your selflessness and what you've displayed for your country i take my hat off to you i thank you this is what irks me about our government i've said this before ocho and i believe it you serve your country you get dishonored you get honorable discharge why are you having a struggle to find a job? I never understand that. And you should get to move, I mean, to start a business. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Sure, Mr. Logan, we'd love to help you. How can we assist you? That's what it should be. After what they've sacrificed, so other people that didn't have to make those same sacrifices can go get a loan and start a business and can go get a job. I've never I'm never going to agree with that. Right. I'm sorry. I wonder why is it so difficult? Yes. I don't know. I wish I knew. And I wish there was something that I could do to help.
Starting point is 00:43:06 But all I can do is say, look, it's wrong. I've always said that it was wrong. I'm a firm believer that if you serve in the military, man, woman, child, you get honorably discharged. You should know you should not have a problem finding a job. Yeah, you should have health insurance for the remainder of your days. And the reason you take it, if you take it, if you take it,
Starting point is 00:43:27 my tax money for that, I ain't got no problem. I ain't got no problem. You take it 50% and you take it in any way. But I'm like, I'm not going to be nearly as upset. Right. If it's going to,
Starting point is 00:43:38 to, to worthy causes. Right. And you would, you would think obviously after serving, you would have unlimited resources to make sure you're able to to live a comfortable life and whatever endeavors you want to embark on, you have access to. Yes. I believe that. We agree. Elijah Basalto. Hey, Ocho, watching from Australia. What up, mate? What are y'all advice on
Starting point is 00:44:07 dealing with the re-entering dating scene after a long time off or in a long relationship? Finding it is hard. Need help from my guy. Whipped cream. Ocho, that is not the first thing when you done been out
Starting point is 00:44:23 the game. That ain't the first thing that come to your mind is whipped cream, help the man out the man came with us with serious problems we supposed to have some answers I'm going to let you answer that because he ain't going to want to hear what I got to say I'm coming off the deep end somebody talking about Meg the stallion ain't in Austin
Starting point is 00:44:40 where she live at, I mean she ain't in Texas, where Meg live? where she at? I mean, she ain't in Texas. Where Meg live? Where she at? I might stay right here. Miss Nasty B, I think she might be in Cali. I ain't going nowhere. Where Meg live? I think she does live in Texas. She's born in San Antonio.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Where she live at now? Houston. You ain't ready for that, man. You be hating on me, though, Joe. I'm not hating. I just say you're not ready for that. There's certain things you aren't willing to do. If you listen to Meg's music.
Starting point is 00:45:13 What I ain't willing to do, Joe? What I ain't willing to do? Listen, have you listened to Meg's music? You listen to some of the things she says? I heard everything she said. Yeah, well, you... Sign your boy up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Well, I... Sign me up for the Megan Jubilee. Sign your boy up. Yep. Sign me up for the Megan Jubilee. Sign my name. Sign my name on. What you know about that? Hey, that's that good gospel right there now. That good gospel.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Unculture J say, yo guys, if I recommend some music, try Cleo Soul. Her voice feels like somebody giving you a warm hug you haven't seen in years. All of her albums are nice. Also, I think Destroying would make a great podcast guest. Who is Destroying? Look him up right quick.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Yeah, Destroying, man. I don't know who that is. Yeah, Destro yeah destroying young boy he doing his thing he's a YouTuber yeah he doing his thing big time bro
Starting point is 00:46:12 bro when I say my head is down and I'm worried about this yeah I know what you mean I know what you mean well I know I know who he is I know who destroying is
Starting point is 00:46:24 good dude doing some doing some wonderful things out there right now but that's the don't you Yeah, I know what you mean. I know what you mean. Well, I know. I know who he is. I know who DeStroian is. Good dude. Doing some wonderful things out there right now. But that's the thing. That's the thing. You see? When you doing your thing, look. How many hours in a day? 24.
Starting point is 00:46:38 24. So, if I got 12 hours to mind my business, 12 hours to stay out of the other man's business, I ain't got time to worry about nobody else. I ain't got no time to gossip about anybody else. I ain't got no time to worry about what somebody else doing, what they may have, what I don't have. I just got enough time. I ain't got enough time to worry about my business. Right. I feel you.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Oh, bro. Ocho. What happened? Somebody tweeted. Somebody, they tweeted it, right? They tweeted to me saying, Nikki said she wants to come on your podcast. I'm like, Nikki, bro, I'm like, who? Nikki who?
Starting point is 00:47:23 Nikki Haley? Nikki Minaj? Wait, the queen, the queen wanna, what? Nicki who? Nicki Haley? Nicki Minaj? Wait, the queen? The queen wanna, what, the queen coming on Shea Shea? Man, look here. Nicki Haley been dominating the headlines too, saying that foolishness.
Starting point is 00:47:34 So I'm like, so Nicki Haley wanna come on Club Shea Shea? Nah, we talking about the queen. When somebody say Nicki, only one Nicki resonates with me. I don't, bro. It ain't Nikki Parker. Bro.
Starting point is 00:47:48 I'm 55 years of age. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You are, you is old. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't travel in that world. Do I know who Nikki Minaj is? Yes. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:57 That's that one, man. That's that one, man. Yeah. Yeah. So, hey, you got to get, you got to get the queen on the show now. If she put it out there, you got to get the queen on the show now
Starting point is 00:48:05 if she put it out there you gotta get the queen on the show yeah but here's the thing Nicki Minaj doesn't have to like oh I'm thinking about it she can just hit us up okay fine you have an open invite some people some guests have open invitations
Starting point is 00:48:22 right I mean why would not to say that they're ever going to come on come on my show but jay about hove and beyonce or taylor swift or patrick mahomes or lebron i mean come on now oh open invite yeah really yeah you know they'll sit down with who's gonna ever who's gonna ever turn those guys down for an interview? Nobody. To have a conversation? Nobody.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Exactly. But y'all be expecting, look, I know a little bit a lot, but I don't really know, like, the music. Like you said, destroy it. Bro, I'd have never guessed that. Yeah, yeah. I'd have still been here tomorrow like, hey, I'd have had to Google it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:04 I'm going to catch you up to speed on a lot of stuff, because you behind. You know, you... Right now, you still got a flip phone. You still got a flip phone when it comes to the culture and what's going on.
Starting point is 00:49:15 I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you out. Anytime you hear the word Nikki, right away, the first thing that should resonate with you is the queen. Okay. All right, that's it.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Okay. So now you a Barb. Oh, okay. Yeah, we Barbs. No. No? Okay, my bad. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Hold on. I thought Lil' Kim was queen. Queen. Oh, I think, like... so you know what I mean? Hold on. Hey, Lil' Kim, Queen B, hey, Chad, chime in. Let me give it to you in football terms. But how did...
Starting point is 00:49:55 We had Tom Brady, right? Yeah. And Tom Brady had a great era and a great run. Yeah. So that would be Lil' Kim. And now we got Patrick Mahomes. Okay. Now, I might be a little off with my analogies based on the years, but boom, Patrick Mahomes is goddamn Nicki Minaj.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Right. See where I'm going with this? Yeah, but I'm just saying. Both great in their respective crafts during their time and their era. And I might be a little off because Tom just finished playing, but that's the best I can do. Okay. Okay. I'll take your word for it
Starting point is 00:50:28 because like I said, I just, I think, I remember, I remember Lil' Kim and I think they used to call her Queen, but okay. We got to get you hip, man.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Yeah, but I think the thing is it's just like they try to you know the internet make it like oh disrespecting Nicki Minaj bro you didn't say Nicki Minaj I don't know I don't like I said
Starting point is 00:50:58 if somebody would have said Beyonce obviously I don't even know right yeah but obviously you know I don't even know. Right. Yeah. But obviously, you know, I don't bro.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I'm in my own little bubble. I don't bother nobody. I'm trying to make the best content. I'm trying to make Clev She She as great as I possibly can. I'm trying to make Nightcap as great as I possibly can. And when I go on first take, I'm trying to give them the best
Starting point is 00:51:24 two days, the best four hours I could possibly give them. That's where I am. Right, right. So I'm sorry that I don't know, I don't have all this free time
Starting point is 00:51:33 to know who and you go by one name and all that other stuff. I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry. I really am. But this is... It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:51:46 We got to cut you off, man. You let the age show. It's okay. I'm a... Ocho, you do realize that once you get to a certain age, you realize the goal is to get old. That's the goal.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, these young people like, oh, you old and all that. One day you're going to come to the realization that you know what?
Starting point is 00:52:11 That's the goal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but I need to keep you abreast on the culture that's younger than you
Starting point is 00:52:20 so you can be well-rounded and well-versed in everything going on man i'm trying to make i'm trying i'm ocho ocho i only got so much time in a day yeah i'm i'm trying to actually i'm trying to make i'm trying to make money bro right i'm trying to create the best content that we possibly can we're gonna make it you know that's gonna happen anyway because that's that's already given it's happening it's You know, that's going to happen anyway, because that's already given.
Starting point is 00:52:46 It's happening. It's going to happen regardless. It's going to happen regardless. Yeah. Now, if they said Cardi, I might know who Cardi B is. But you probably got me. You just can't say Cardi. I'm like.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Yeah, you could be Playboy Cardi. It could be. What do you do he do He a rep Is that Is that the Hold on Is that the one that was dating Nicki Minaj No man
Starting point is 00:53:12 That's the one that was with With Piggy Who With Piggy I don't know who no Piggy is Piggy Wait No Iggy
Starting point is 00:53:23 Oh Iggy Az Iggy or Xavier yeah yeah yeah oh okay okay I think they got I think they got a little angel together they got a little angel
Starting point is 00:53:30 okay okay okay I'm bad with names too a little bit I'm so I'm old you know I'm old too so
Starting point is 00:53:37 Iggy yeah yeah but see you say Iggy I mean I have a nose but if somebody just said Iggy I mean if you just said Iggy I don't like saying Ig, you say Iggy. I mean, I have a nose. Yes. But if somebody just said Iggy, I mean, if you just said Iggy, I don't like saying Iggy Pop.
Starting point is 00:53:47 No, Iggy Iguodala. Yeah. Yeah. See, I'm, you know what? I'm old, too, man. Don't forget. Because I'm saying the lady name wrong. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Iggy Azalea. Yeah, Iggy. I'm talking about Piggy. Where the fuck I get Piggy from? Yeah, definitely. I'm like, Piggy? Who the hell is Piggy? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:04 I don't know. Miss Pig't know what a piggy is. Miss Piggy? Nah. So you be making them names, Ocho. So you don't got me. Nah, I was trying to remember. It just. And then Beyonce came like with the beehives,
Starting point is 00:54:16 with the bees, because everybody's like, the bees, I'm like. Yeah, yeah. And when you say something, you ain't got no business. You just a whole bunch of bees being your. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Because what I say, we was having a conversation about reach and about, you know, moving a needle. I had a lot of bees. Oh, they was on you, huh? So I just got me some Raid and Flash Water and just... Pow, pow. Yeah. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:54:56 I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:55:59 In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second.
Starting point is 00:56:19 I'm going to ask Attorney General... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane,
Starting point is 00:56:42 I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My boy Khaled. Well, where Khaled sent you boy? Don't you worry about it Don't you worry about What old Khaled sent his boy
Starting point is 00:57:14 Is that some Jordans? Let's play Let's play for them I think he teamed up I think he teamed up with With Tommy Hilfiger Oh yeah? Yep see Look at that Y'all see that? We the best with Tommy Hilfiger. Oh, yeah? Yeah, see?
Starting point is 00:57:26 Look at that. Y'all see that? We the best. Tommy Hilfiger. I like that. I like that. Back in the day, I don't know if you remember this,
Starting point is 00:57:36 where you guys used to wear them on Tommy Hilfiger and them Jabot jeans. Yeah. Nah, I don't want to. I remember I used to have a Tommy Hilfiger set with a polo shirt with the white
Starting point is 00:57:45 with the shorts yeah with uh with the with the Reeboks DJ Callen I appreciate that I appreciate the sit down I haven't had an opportunity to talk to you since we did the interview but I appreciate the sit down I appreciate you inviting my brother to play in your golf tournament he appreciate it and I want to say thank you for that. I appreciate the shirt that you sent me with the collab with Tommy Hilfiger. Greatly appreciate that, bro. Much love. Big ups. Keep doing what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:58:15 What else? So, so, Nikki, Nikki, if you took offense to what I said, I sincerely apologize. That was not my intentions. I don't disrespect anybody, but I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I didn't. So I apologize, and I would love for you to come by Club Che Shay and have a conversation at the time of your choosing. So that's where I am with that. So you know how people make things oh, ooh, ooh, disrespected, disrespected the queen. I guess that's what you call her. Yeah, that's the queen.
Starting point is 00:58:58 I'm going to shoot her a text. I'm going to make it happen. I'm going to connect the dots. Why? What you going to make happen? So'm going to connect the dots what you going to make happen so she can come on club I think that would be a good one that would be a good one that would be a good one
Starting point is 00:59:14 that would be a real good one yeah for sure I would love to have I would love to have her Meg you know you is what it is ocho you know you reach out to people and sometimes they they like you know they like they do it and they're like well no i'm not doing podcasts right now and then the next day you see
Starting point is 00:59:34 them on the podcast right but it's different it's different we we we uh we uncle ocho and and these are people that you're asking for these are people that I know personally. And as a favor, being that I don't ask for much and I don't bother people really ever. So if I'm asking for this one favor, I think they will oblige. Based on our success, our reach, and being able to get their message and whatever it is that they want to say and get it out there, they won't have an issue. Especially after that cat interview, I think anybody, Obama, will be willing to sit down with you right now. They see the reach that you do have and what's possible.
Starting point is 01:00:13 You know, so you good. Nikki about the tour. Well, hopefully, before she kicked the tour off, she come by Stop by Club, Shay Shay. Yeah. We'll even decorate the set pink. We ain't got no pink, but hey.
Starting point is 01:00:28 We can find some pink at Party City. Yeah. Barb's. Is she being like Barb's like Barbie dolls or something? No, Barb. Barbie. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So we go get a bunch of Barbie dolls. No.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Barb's. We get some life size We get some life size Barbie dolls No Just pink I bought my daughter some life size Barbie dolls Man my oldest daughter Ain't play one Ain't play one day with that doll
Starting point is 01:00:56 Life size I'd be scared of that Yeah I'd be scared of that That doll was big as she was. Y'all trying to keep some bull job going. What'd she ask? Curvy Asian dog. so uncle so um okay with whipped cream on a toe shot pretty feet gang what that mean ocho because that's your area expertise so what she's saying is she has pretty feet
Starting point is 01:01:40 okay so she would like you to use whipped cream on her feet and she's a part of the pretty toe gang really letting you know that her feet are pretty and she would like you to use a whipped cream on her feet yeah i mean the fact that we had no visual to go with her her assessment or what she's saying so we really don't know if she had pretty feet or not. I mean, what if she got pretty feet, but she not? I mean, normally nine times out of ten, someone with beautiful feet, it kind of works its way down.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Start at the top and works its way down? Yeah, start at the top and works it. Okay, I'll take your word for it. Yeah, I mean, I don't have a visual, so I really can't tell you. So who won the vote? Where should I live? In Miami?
Starting point is 01:02:31 It's in Houston. Okay. I will ask the chat. Who do you guys think I should interview next? Nikki, Meg, or Cardi B? That's a good... I'll take all of them, but... Hey, listen.
Starting point is 01:02:55 You could... Honestly, I would do all three. Ocho. I would say I would do all three, but I can't do all three of them at once. What's the likelihood I get all three of them at once to sit down? Listen, I would do all three, but I can't do all three of them at once. What's the likelihood I get all three of them at once to sit down? Listen, I would love three of the power hitters in the industry as females to sit down and discuss their differences and hash things out and work together because you're more powerful as one. Now, that's just a dream of mine and how i look at it right imagine what y'all could do as one as opposed to having
Starting point is 01:03:33 different issues with each other whatever those issues may be let's hash them out hell i guess i should have put like doja cat uh what's the other one? Lotto. Oh, okay. I like it. Think about all three of them going on tour together. Think about the money they could make. Think about what they could do. Nicki,
Starting point is 01:03:55 Meg, Cardi B, Lotto, who else? Ice Spice. Think about a tour. Think about all them touring together, man. You know the numbers they would do?
Starting point is 01:04:08 I mean, that's just my vision. You act like I'm a tour promoter. I know. I'm just putting it out there. I'm just putting it out there. Just, you know, I don't know nothing about touring, but I understand the powers that be. I thought you knew about everything.
Starting point is 01:04:23 You helped Beyonce on Lemonade with choreography. Yeah, I did. I did. I did. I'm in the credits. All you got to do, open, open. If you bought the CD,
Starting point is 01:04:30 look at the credits. My name right there. You ain't even got good credit, let alone in the credits. Well, my credit, my credit is 780. Don't do that. And one thing I don't play about
Starting point is 01:04:37 is my credit. That's all you got. That's all I got in life. My credit and my mistakes. Who winning? Who winning? Who winning credit and my mistakes. Who winning? Who winning? Who winning? Nikki's winning.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Who next? Somebody talk about some sexy red. Man. Talk about when we moved to Houston, I can interview Meg then but in the meantime so you vote Nikki who you vote Nash
Starting point is 01:05:10 damn I like that who you vote Jordan I like that idea Jordan somebody he go with Meg Ash go with Nikki I'm gonna dropped my damn cigar you're ready to burn the house down I know they
Starting point is 01:05:30 well I guess at that point look I definitely think all of those young ladies would do numbers yeah man I like that tour idea all of those, all those, uh, young ladies would do numbers. Yeah. Man,
Starting point is 01:05:48 I like that. I like that tour idea I was talking about. But, uh, but can't, you know, can't, can't say it. I mean,
Starting point is 01:05:54 you heard him say it like once I established this as a place of truth, you allow people to, he ain't lying. And I lying and I've spoken to him a few times since then yeah and he's been great he's been unbelievable I'm going to see him when he comes out
Starting point is 01:06:16 he's going to film a special out here in May I'm definitely going to be at it yeah it's going to be good oh it's going to be off the chain it's going to be at it. Yeah, it's going to be good. Oh, it's going to be off the chain. It's going to be crazy. I'm excited. It's going to be good. It's going to be real good.
Starting point is 01:06:34 It's going to be real good. Well, you ready for the Super Bowl, Lojo? Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I mean, obviously, I get to Vegas tomorrow. People that are traveling to the Super Bowl, there are two establishments I would like you to try.
Starting point is 01:06:51 You know, for those of you that want to spend well within your means like I'm going to be doing, dinner, I'd like you to try Soul Food Cafe. Soul Food Cafe is an establishment that obviously sells soul food. Where is it at? Off Rainbow Boulevard. No.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Yeah, Soul Food Cafe is off Rainbow Boulevard. Okay. You got to try Soul Food Cafe. And for breakfast, you have to try Grits Cafe. Grits Cafe and Soul Food Cafe. I don't know the actual address of Grits Cafe, but my goodness, the breakfast they have there, you will really, really, really enjoy. Obviously, everyone else going to Vegas wants to go to all the five-star places, all the places, you know, the commercials, the TVs, the look who's in here now, you know, like, eh, that's cool, whatever. Again, the mom and pop establishments.
Starting point is 01:07:42 If you want some good soul food, you want some good breakfast, Soul Food Cafe. Ask for the Ocho Cinco Special when you go there and Grits Cafe for breakfast and tell them I sent you. You'll probably get 10% off. I'm just throwing it out there if y'all want. Throw it out there? Yeah. Simone Biles. Somebody said Simone Biles and her husband
Starting point is 01:08:05 so we got 20 almost 2700 votes and Nikki is winning by a big margin isn't she alright Nikki fans have spoken yeah
Starting point is 01:08:24 before you hit the road you need to come see Club Shaysha All right, Nicky. Fans have spoken. Yeah. Before you hit the road, you need to come see Club Shaysha. That'll be live. That'll be all the way live. Nicky move the needle, boy. Yeah, yeah. Nicky move the needle. Man.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Man, I be getting some bad, bad. Man, Nicky, my, Nikki by hey I mean I've been trying to look we gonna drop Monique on um on um on Wednesday she's incredible I mean I've been I've been I've been trying I've been trying to get a lot of females because everybody like we bro
Starting point is 01:09:02 I mean what you want me to do you want me to kidnap them and bring them on and force them to come on the show? Right, right. All I can do is reach out. I reach out directly or I have my representatives reach out, but if they don't want to come on, I don't know what y'all want me to do. Talk about, yeah, well, you need more females. Okay. I understand
Starting point is 01:09:18 that. I don't have a, like, oh, I got to get this, you know, I don't want no females to come on. The females females for the most part haven't been willing to come in to have a conversation with me so I don't know
Starting point is 01:09:29 what y'all want me to do right huh that Monique that Monique gonna be a good one boy she gonna be great depending on which
Starting point is 01:09:37 Monique showed up cause you know Monique don't bite her tongue hey put this in the chat chat do y'all find do y'all find when a man say
Starting point is 01:09:44 female offensive or should we say women why would they put this in the chat. Chat, do y'all find when a man say female offensive or should we say women? Put that in the chat. Why would they find that offensive? I don't know. Somebody in this room is always correcting me and Jordan. So I just want to put that up there. I mean, I have Brittany Renner. I've had Tabitha Brown.
Starting point is 01:10:07 I've had Kandi Burrows. And I've had Monique before. Those are the only women we had, right, Jordan? I don't know. I'm rather impressed too because I see both of them it doesn't matter Ash on some bull jive uh uh know it wasn't know it wasn't don't don't
Starting point is 01:11:05 uh yeah I'm gonna get a uh I might bring you know who I might
Starting point is 01:11:16 bring onto my pod Jay Cargill you know who that is yeah
Starting point is 01:11:21 she's WWE yeah yeah yeah that's a good one her or Nikita
Starting point is 01:11:28 she's good too I know who that is well Nikita Nikita and I'll be old I'll be black Nikita
Starting point is 01:11:38 you remember Nikita Koloff yeah in wrestling you remember her no Nikita now she actually wrestles in the WWE no I'm talking about Nikita Koloff? Yeah. In wrestling? You remember her? No, Nikita now. She actually wrestles in the WWE. No, I'm talking about
Starting point is 01:11:48 Nikita Koloff. Yeah, I remember Nikita Koloff. Okay. His uncle was Ivan. Yeah. Actually, his real name, I think his name was
Starting point is 01:11:55 Scott Simpson. That's so bad. That boy. But Ivan Koloff, the Russian Bear. What is it? What is it? Your wife, your producer's wife said she hates when people say female.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Nikita Lyons. That's her name, Chad? Y'all know. I just... Bro, look here. Man, Ocho, they talking about get Taylor Swift, get Beyonce. Man, some people you don't even ask. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? There's some things that you wouldn't even ask your mom. You wouldn't even ask your granddaddy or your grandma. Some stuff
Starting point is 01:12:49 you don't even ask. That's difficult. Yeah, man. That's difficult. Where are we at? I think we done clawed back some of that deficit we gave up. I kind of like females.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Anything to get up. Anything to annoy ass. It is not offensive ass. Stop. Please make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit the subscribe button. We're now at 976. We're at 976,000 subs.
Starting point is 01:13:42 That means we're 24,000 away. So basically, we're going to have to cover a lot of ground in the next three days, Ocho. We are. But it can be done. Yeah, we are. Listen, I'm trying to hold off. I'm trying to hold off before I hit that button. Before I hit that emergency button.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Yeah, yeah. Make sure we clear that. But if we get to Wednesday, if we get to Wednesday and we're not there, I'm going to hit it. I'm going to hit that button. And I'm watching. We're going to surpass 1 million like that. it. I'm going to hit that button. And I'm watching. We're going to surpass one million like that. Okay. I'm trying to hold off, though.
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