Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Luka says Lakers have what it takes to win it all, Funny Marco joins the show to talk about anything and everything!

Episode Date: April 14, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react Luka saying that the Lakers can win it all, Funny Marco joins the show and the jokes were firing on all cylinders! We end with the tragic ...news of Kyren Lacy passes & much more!06:20 - Luka says the Lakers have the team to make a title run12:15 - Eberfluse/Hail Mary20:00 - Funny Marco joins1:09:30 - Tennessee moving on from Nico1:14:30 - Kyren Lacy’s passing1:23:10 - Q & Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:22 Rated R. Under 17. Not admitted without parent. Lucas says the Lakers have the team to make a title run. Ojo, do you believe it? Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. He's supposed to say that, huh?
Starting point is 00:05:50 Listen, you said Luka, right? Let me make sure I get my bearings right. Yeah, Luka said that. Listen, Luka said it for a reason. He already did it with Dallas. He already did it with Dallas, and then he has the greatest player of all time, you know, playing alongside of him.
Starting point is 00:06:04 If you get everybody else to contribute and the bench shows up when they need to show up, there's a possibility it can be done. Now, I think one of the issues that we're going to run into, look, I'm talking about we. Listen, I'm a Heat fan. I'm just saying we for continuity based on talking about the Lakers and what Luka had to say. If the bench shows up, I think the only issue we will have is the fact that they don't have a big, huh? And depending on who they play,
Starting point is 00:06:30 styles and matchups are very important in the seven-game series. Very important. They don't have a big. Minnesota doesn't have a big that you can like. Rudy Gobert is not going to hurt you because they don't have to run plays. Now, you're going to have to keep him off the glass.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah. Because he can rebound and give you a second chance opportunity. It is. That might be a problem because we don't have nobody. Who do we? Why do I keep saying we? God damn it. Who do we have that can do that, though?
Starting point is 00:06:55 Jackson Hayes should be able to keep him. Having second shot chances. Jackson Hayes. That's my dude. Hey, you know that's Coach Hayes' son, huh? Who are Coach Hayes that's my that's my dude and you know that's Coach Hayes' son huh who are Coach Hayes my tight end coach
Starting point is 00:07:10 for the Bengals oh is it yes you didn't know that Jonathan Hayes yes that's his son I didn't know that
Starting point is 00:07:16 yeah I played in the league I was with he was if I'm not mistaken I think he was at Kansas City when I was in the league
Starting point is 00:07:22 yeah yeah I didn't know that. Matter of fact, I got the picture. I got the picture with LaHaze, right? He was about, he was yay hot. I'm talking about short. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Mm-hmm. I didn't know that, Ocho. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Matter of fact, I only knew because the same night when the Lakers played Philly, when Pat Beverly was there. Pat Beverly was coming over to talk to me, and Jackson Hayes came up first, and it pissed Pat off, so Pat walked off. And I'm like, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I didn't know he was in the NBA. He's like, yeah. I asked him how Pops was doing. Pops was doing good. I was like, man, that's crazy. Is he still at Cincinnati? He's not coaching Cincinnati. No, no, NBA. He's like, yeah. I asked him how Pops was doing. Pops was doing good. I was like, man, that's crazy. Is he still at Cincinnati? He's not coaching Cincinnati. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:08:09 He's not at Cincinnati. You know, Zach Taylor, that's a completely different staff. Completely different. Top to bottom. Yeah. But I think it's going to be great. I think it's, look, Luca, LeBron,ron, and AR, that should be plenty of offense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Guys just got to play their role. You need Finney Smith. You need Vando. When they come in, they need to do a job. Hey, Ant-Man going to get his point, but you just got to make it difficult. You got to make him exert himself as much as you possibly can. On the defensive end. On the defensive end.
Starting point is 00:08:44 So that's going to be on Luka. That's going to be on AR. You got to make him work. You got to make him exhaust himself on one end of the court. You can't let him rest. He's not going to play LeBron. LeBron's too big. So somebody's
Starting point is 00:08:59 got to guard Luka. And so if I'm looking at the pull back up. Oh, let me see here. Pull this up right quick. So could they possibly put on Luka? Oh,
Starting point is 00:09:22 Mark's score. I'm trying to figure who they're going to put on Luka. Nah, not that. They don't want that game. Oh, here it is right here. Let's see what they can put on Luke. Jaden McDaniels.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Well, he can only guard one. Julius Randle will probably take LeBron. Jaden McDaniels is going to have to guard Luke. Luke. Or he's going to have to guard AR. And that means, what do you call it? Ant-Man is going to have to guard the other one. I'm excited, man. Listen, just sitting here talking about
Starting point is 00:10:14 it, man, with you back and forth, man, you got to want to actually be there in person, man. Because I think the chat would enjoy that. The chat would enjoy just you and I at the game. I just, man, I'm excited. I got chills talking about it, man. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Oh, it's going to be a great one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's going to be a great series. I'm hoping for a great series. Hopefully, everybody stays healthy and you get the job done. But I don't think you can really. I think this is a great matchup. You got LeBron, Luka, and you get the job done. But I don't think you can really. I think this is a great matchup. You got LeBron, Luka, and you got Ant-Man.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Yes, sir. You can't ask for anything more than that. Then you got a young star. You got LeBron. We know what he is in the playoffs. All the records for the most part. Ten NBA Finals, four championships, four MVPs. First in point scores,
Starting point is 00:11:06 second assist, you know, up there, rebounds up there and block shots and all that. So, this is a great matchup.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I can't, can't wait to see it. Probably not going to get kicked off before Sunday of next week. I can say, maybe Saturday, maybe Saturday,
Starting point is 00:11:23 but I'm thinking Sunday. Huh? I can say maybe Saturday maybe Saturday but I'm thinking Sunday huh actually I don't know we haven't we haven't seen it yet so Ocho Matt Eberflus handling of the infamous Hail Mary's Lawson Nord Blares players Caleb will you reveal how Eberflus handled it all at the time
Starting point is 00:11:42 for that game was I think one of the things that throughout the locker room people talked about and were annoyed by. Ibraflues had him. Hold on. What about the DB that was joshing around with the fans? What about the accountability of the players? If he was where he was supposed to be
Starting point is 00:12:05 say play that that's what annoys me about this these millennial dgmc right is that they they want to absorb themselves of responsibility yes sir accountability yes sir now we see the guy he's over there doing this the play play is going on. He's making fun of the people and the fans who have no impact on the game. Game at all, right. And then the quarterback blames the head coach? Listen,
Starting point is 00:12:38 you know how it is in situations like that? We go over all that on Fridays, don't we? Yes! We go over every scenario possible on Friday just in situations like that. We go over all that on Fridays, huh? Don't we? Yes! We go over every scenario possible on Friday just in case it happens. So let me ask you this. Do what you do in practice. And the one thing that we didn't do
Starting point is 00:12:56 is that when we run those flows and we practice, the guys on the defensive side, they're not messing with the people in the fans. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. So, Caleb Williams, if you don't mind me asking, so what responsibility? What was that? Was his last name Stevenson?
Starting point is 00:13:10 Who was that DB number 25? So I just want to know. I just want to hear him say what. Tyreek Stevenson, Caleb Williams. As a guy, two guys that played in the NFL. What responsibility? What role did Tyreek Stevenson play in that?
Starting point is 00:13:27 I know you said there were things period throughout the locker room that even flew when you lost that game. I just want to hear you say what role you believe he played in that. Now, was this said recently by Caleb Williams?
Starting point is 00:13:43 We're not misquoting anything he's saying, right? How Ibraflues handled it at the time for that game, I think was one of the things that throughout the locker room people talked about and were annoyed by. Okay. Okay. Okay. I mean, and listen, I'm not sure how that's on the coach at all.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Because I'm sure when it's done in Friday's practice, whether it be walkthrough or whether it be full speed, I'm sure you're not messing around with the fans in the stands. That's it, Ocho. If he's where he's supposed to be. The outcome might be different. The outcome might be different. Now, there have been times where people have done the right way and it just so happened they got lucky and they caught it. You can live with that. Live with it. But I can't live with this. No, absolutely not. And that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:14:35 And see, what I tell people, hard work doesn't guarantee you anything. But I believe it with, I believe without it, you don't have a chance. See, Ocho, if I go about something and I work as hard as I possibly can and it doesn't happen, it didn't happen. But when people have regret, if I didn't stay out so late, if I didn't drink and I'm taking it more serious, come on now,
Starting point is 00:14:57 you can have a lifetime of discipline or you can have a lifetime of regret. Choose wisely. Hold on. What am I paying that, man? God damn it. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Don't do that. Baby! I can't. I can't. Wait. Give me a minute. Come on. Listen.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Give me that one more time. You can have a lifetime of what? Discipline or a lifetime of regret. For you to blame the coach, when this guy, when you see the guy joshing around, the play is going on, and then he's running as hard as he possibly can to try. And then he's
Starting point is 00:15:39 late. He's the one that tipped the ball and let Brown catch it. No, Brown catch it. Yeah. He's supposed to knock the ball down. Whatever you do, rule one that tipped the ball and let Brown catch it. No, Brown catch it. Yeah. He's supposed to knock the ball down. Whatever you do, rule number one, knock the ball down. Damn. Damn. Hmm?
Starting point is 00:16:01 Yeah, I just, that's what I don't get. I just, look, it's over with. Just move on. He came out better saying, look, guys, that's what I don't get. I just, look, it's over with. Just move on. He came out better saying, hey, look, guys, that was last year. Hopefully we're better in those situations this year. We got a new coaching staff. Guys are excited. I get a, that's my rookie year. I had some ups, had some downs.
Starting point is 00:16:19 There's some things I can do better. We will get better. We've improved in a lot of areas. We revamped the offensive line. Guys understand me. I understand them. Hey,
Starting point is 00:16:29 I'm very excited about this season. But to talk about that play without mentioning a player that should have been in position.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I don't get down like that. Yeah, most definitely. Hey, and one thing about them Bears, I could tell you this.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Just to finish on something positive, that goddamn Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson, boy, the magic that they finna have and the chemistry they finna have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Mesh. They got Roma Dunze. They got DJ Moore. Yeah. They improved that offensive line by Leafs and Brown. Joe Tooney. They signed a couple of guys. They got three guys line by Leafs and Brown. Joe Tooney. They signed a couple of guys.
Starting point is 00:17:07 They got three guys in free agency. Listen, the offensive creativity alone itself, the Bears are going to be must-watch. They're going to be must-watch. I'm excited. Yeah, I'm excited for them. I'm excited. They don't have a choice because Detroit's in that division.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Oh, yeah. The Packers are in that division. Right because Detroit's in that division. Oh, yeah. The Packers are in that division. Right. Minnesota's in that division. Yeah. What choice do you have? If you don't get better, guess what?
Starting point is 00:17:31 You'll finish and last again like you finished for the last several years. Hold on. Let me use the bathroom real quick. Hold on. Go ahead.
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Starting point is 00:21:23 That looked like New York in the backdrop of Chicago. So I go New York. Funny Marco. Oh, you can see me. Uh, yeah, I can see you. I, this is my new condo. I'm in New York. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Go ahead. Oh, big dog. Yeah. You know how it go. Overlooking. I mean, that little, is that the Hudson behind you? Nah, I don't know what it is. It's $20,000 a month, though.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Oh, Lord. Yeah. Hey, hold on, hold on. Where you at? Where you at? I'm in New York. I'm in my condo. I'm in New York.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Oh, okay. How much you said it is a month? 20. 20 what? $20,000. I mean, it comes with our furniture and stuff oh okay
Starting point is 00:22:07 that's a backdrop that's probably the green screen nah it ain't it ain't no green screen can I ask you a question? yeah get up and walk back
Starting point is 00:22:15 get up there and walk back I don't walk around in my apartment like that that's what I thought it's green screen I don't want to if somebody break in my house like you feel me
Starting point is 00:22:22 I just how do you mean somebody gonna break in your house? If you're paying $20,000 a month for a place in New York, they got guards. They got a door man. I got two of them, so it's $10,000 a month. So I'm just like, $20,000.
Starting point is 00:22:33 I'll just sum it up. Okay, okay, okay. What do you mean you got two of them? No, my mama live next door. What's funny? Hey. Hey, what a hundred dollars that you owe me, man. What's up? Hey. Hey. Hey. What a hundred dollars that you owe me, man.
Starting point is 00:22:48 What's up, Uncle? Sean? What's up, Uncle? No. What's up? Marco. Man, what a hundred dollars. Marco, what a hundred dollars
Starting point is 00:22:55 that you owe me, bro. Why you call him Uncle when y'all the same age? Why you ain't never asked him that? Why you call him Uncle like make him the old? Why you ignore me? Where's the hundred dollars you owe me bro you don't need it marco i don't want to listen i don't want to have to put no hands on you boy man let me get
Starting point is 00:23:15 that hundred dollars please all i gotta do is call harrison don't let me get harrison on you know what's up was there any harrison what's the name uh j name? Jenkins Harrison. Yeah, and you just sit there and let him watch. You didn't do nothing. You were smiling the whole time. You didn't get it. I'm the promoter. No, but I'm saying you did. You seen he was scared, and you just watched it go back and forth.
Starting point is 00:23:35 No, I wasn't scared. Well, you seen who was scared? No, you was scared of him. He a big dude. I don't care about nobody being big, man. Listen, you'll see. Hold on. Stay with me real quick.
Starting point is 00:23:44 You'll see when we fight Super Bowl week. We'll see who's scared. I know, but you ain't be scared to get beat up. Who? Get beat up? No, you ain't. You scared to lose? I mean, I wouldn't fight him.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Why? What you scared of? I mean, I protect myself. You see where I live. I live in good environments. I work hard for myself. I work hard, too. But you can't just let people because they big.
Starting point is 00:24:09 You're not supposed to be scared of them. You got to stand up for yourself. Y'all cussing under y'all. What you going to say? You serious as hell? No, I was just saying, you know, I don't do that cussing shit. It's cool. Man, Mark, let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Were you funny growing up or did you stumble into comedy were you a class clown or did you prank people how did you how did you stumble how do you come into this role that you are now well in school uh well i'm dyslexic so um wait you what you what i You what? This is Lesky. I'm a struggle. You've got a way with words like Ocho. What's funny? Hey,
Starting point is 00:25:06 you can spell that. No. My bad, my bad. Okay, so you was dyslexic. My bad. And then what happened? I was just struggling in school and just,
Starting point is 00:25:21 you know, once people pick on you for not being able to read a spell you got to find a way to get out of it so i used to just try to find a humor uh you know if you ever heard of popcorn reading uh-uh popcorn reading is where you like read and somebody pick you to read so like i used to give me to read so like a lot of people used to pick on me. So, did you get a diploma? Did you get a certificate? Participation award?
Starting point is 00:25:49 So, what happened? Yeah, it was what? It was five students in the classroom and a dog, two teachers, Miss Collins. Well, we on here to speak our truth for what? Yeah, for sure. Go ahead, my bad, my bad. I'm just saying, what school did you, did y'all all graduate? Did'all graduate did y'all go to like school how many people was in your classroom yeah i mean i was i was in a full class a class of 42 what's a full class 42 42 students do but i but i changed i changed
Starting point is 00:26:19 focus on you with 42 students i mean it, it's a professor. That's what happens at the university. No, but we have four students in our classroom because we can get, like, the teachers focused on the main people. Did you stay in that same classroom the whole day, or did you change classes at any point in time during the day? I stayed in the same classroom. We had two teachers. So they wrote. Interesting. Why do you say that?
Starting point is 00:26:46 Well, I mean, normally, I mean, most, most. When you say normally, what do you mean by that? Because like. Normally, most students, they change classes unless, you know, there are some deficiencies. What does that mean? I don't know what that word mean. That means that, you know, you're deficient in certain things uh they don't want you to get lost between changing classes so they just keep they just keep you let me ask you a question did the teacher meet you
Starting point is 00:27:19 let the school bus pull up did the teacher meet you there and walk you to class and then walk you back to the school bus or did they they just let you off and you went? I was the only one that rode my bus. Oh. I stayed in Club Leaf Apartments in Kansas City. Okay. And that's because I lived in a project. So I got selected to go to that school.
Starting point is 00:27:40 That's what my mama told me. I was selected. How many recesses and how many lunches did you have in a day? We had one and then we had a dog walk. Dog walk was where you get to walk the dog. Oh, okay. So what was... No. At home,
Starting point is 00:27:56 not in school. What was your favorite subject? Lunch? Nap time? I mean, you know, school was just, you know, it was fine. I graduated. You did? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:31 With a diploma or certificate? It was both. It was in a plastic. It was a plastic. It was, what's that called? Lemonated. It was lemonade. Oh.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Okay. But, you know, you have to have it laminated. They don't hand it to you laminated. No, they hand it laminated with us. And you open it up and they say, congratulations, Marco Summers, you have completed
Starting point is 00:28:53 high school diploma. Oh, that's dope. Oh, you ain't go to college, huh? I know, I ain't go. No, college, you know, college ain't for everybody. Right. You know what, that's the fact
Starting point is 00:29:02 that you've been able to- School wasn't for everybody either. Yeah. I know y'all only went to college because y'all was good at sports everybody on here let's be real everybody on here ain't that smart well hold on wait whoa whoa whoa that that's that's the fact this is sports was my plan b i am good at reading i can read that one thing especially i got i can read a harry potter book in a day so that's one thing that i am good at a harry potter book in a day so that's one thing a lot of people i can't i am good at reading
Starting point is 00:29:25 okay okay oh okay i i have a question how did you go from trolling in walmart to interviewing rappers and celebrities on couches like that that's that's tremendous for someone that didn't go to college for someone that didn't graduate from college okay okay okay you ain't gonna add all that okay my bad my bad okay i'm just how did you go i mean i i believe uh because when covid time it was like the city was shut down so right i was out and i got you know i was interviewing people on the streets right you know and i was like always paid them for their advice like how did they feel about covid so i was the only one working during covid like time still doing you know so that was uh one big thing so doing, you know, so that was, uh,
Starting point is 00:30:05 one big thing. So when then, you know, when we've been able to talk to like people out on the streets, it was just like opening the door and I was good at communication. So, and then, uh,
Starting point is 00:30:16 you know, just getting a chance to talk to a few underground rappers and it started going up and up, you know? See, I like that. I like that. You just said that. I'm in a condo right now in New York, $20,000 a month.
Starting point is 00:30:26 It's a condo I worked hard for. At what moment, at what moment or what celebrity was your breakthrough where it was like, you know what? What I have going on and what I'm doing right now just might be bigger than just internet funny, where it's taken off to the point where you can afford a $20,000 a month condo in New York. Yeah, the one I'm in right now, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:49 All right. Well, talking and getting to sit down with Nicki Minaj, that kind of like opened. Oh, that blew you up. Yeah. It was scary.
Starting point is 00:30:57 You know, like, she's a good person. I was just scared, you know, talking to her. Right. Hold up. Nicki Minaj sit down with you and she won't sit down with me?
Starting point is 00:31:04 Shana, you know how you are. It's kind of hard sitting down with you. You know how you are when you sit down with you and she won't sit down with me Shana you know how you are it's kind of hard sitting down with you you know how you are when you sit down because you Shana you you warm people up and then you just like you you you hit them with it like indeed like oh I already know it so like one thing I don't no but you really good at
Starting point is 00:31:19 manipulating the situation which you're great at what you do right because everybody love you for it everybody watch your interviews But you're really good at Willing somebody in You could be a detective On the show Yeah
Starting point is 00:31:30 I like that If 50 Cent is watching this He need to put you on fire As a cop It would be really good I like that I like that Hey listen
Starting point is 00:31:38 Bruh Your interviews Like your live interviews Is that real Gucci That you got on What's that you wearing That is Louis Vuitton. Is it real?
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yeah, it's real. What is it supposed to be? I'm saying let me see the tag. I know where you got that from. No, yeah. Louis Vuitton and Bal Harbour. What about you? No.
Starting point is 00:32:00 No. But you say money though. It's not because you cheat. It's not because you pay money. I don't think you money though It's not because you cheat It's not because you pay money I don't think you understand It's 2025 And I'm in the season of Ocho This year
Starting point is 00:32:11 I'm spending All year long Okay All year long Well why you ain't pay All kids money then? Why you ain't pay me my $100? Yeah that's a good question
Starting point is 00:32:20 Hold on hold on No you owe him $5,000 Why you ain't pay him? But you owe me $100 Let me get my $100 Okay well we ain't talking That's little money It ain't paid my... Hold on, hold on. No, you owe him $5,000. Why you ain't paying him? But you owe me $100. Let me get my $100. Okay, well, we ain't talking... That's little money. It ain't little money.
Starting point is 00:32:29 It's the principle. $100 is $100. You need to go ahead and get your money. So that's what we need to talk about. Okay, how about we do this? When you pay me my $100, I'll pay you on kids' money.
Starting point is 00:32:38 How about that? Don't put me in the midst of that fire. Yeah, I mean, I don't think that really has anything to do with it, though. One should not have anything to do with the other. Listen, the fact that I didn't even know he was coming on here, but he owed me money, and I ain't seen him since I let him hold that hunting.
Starting point is 00:32:52 You know what? I never seen a bald-headed homeless person. Y'all do really good for y'all community. Who homeless? No, I'm just saying, no. I said I never seen, like, all bald-headed men do really good. We can't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Shannon, have you ever seen a bald- black like going back? Oh, okay. I see what you mean Michael Jordan everybody that's ball-hitting or is always like they do Okay, yeah, you okay I thought I thought you're trying to Dang I should to worry about. They're stressed out their hair. The Wayans brothers? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:29 You're right. Hey, are you married? No. You know, I want to get married, but I see, like, it just seems like it's a lot of papers to read and stuff. I'm not really a reading type of dude. Yeah. But, hold on. Didn't you just have a little one?
Starting point is 00:33:44 Yeah, I did. Yeah. But, V, that was a, you know, you know you just have a little one? Yeah, I did, yeah. But me, that was a, you know, you know how that goes, you know. Wait. No, tell me. You had a baby? Yeah, but you know how that goes. You're not a virgin?
Starting point is 00:33:56 No, no, I ain't a virgin. Why they say that? I mean, see, because I don't be speaking on shit, you know. Okay, I mean, they did, I mean. Probably I need to go live so they know I be doing my thing, you know? There you go, there you go, Marco, because that was uncalled for. That was a low blow, bro. Well, I'm just saying, no, it ain't nothing to do with you. I'm talking to you.
Starting point is 00:34:14 No, you talking about me. I mean, if the shoe fit, then where? Hey, congratulations, though. You got a little girl and a little boy. Uh, I'm... Both. Oh, you got two? And congratulations, though. You got a little girl and a little boy. I'm both. Oh, you got two. Nice.
Starting point is 00:34:28 You know, genders. You can't just let her decide or him. Whatever. I'm going to let them decide. Hey, I want to interview Bobby. Can you make that happen? I definitely can. But don't start no shit.
Starting point is 00:34:41 You feel me? How am I going to start? I'm saying you know what you do. Look at your shirt. The Joker. Like, you know who you shit. You feel me? What's the why am I going to start? I'm just saying, you know what you do. Look at your shirt, the Joker. Like, you know who you are. You wear your, like, it's all in your face. Hey, who is Bobby? Bobby, I'll talk.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Oh. Yes. Ain't you and Bobby date, nah? Nah, nah. No, don't do that. I'm just saying, I saw the chemistry. The chemistry y'all had together. Nah, nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Nah, yeah. Nah, we don't date. That's a friend. She a friend of mine. I saw the chemistry. The chemistry y'all had together. No, no, no, no. No, yeah. No, we don't date. That's a friend. She a friend of mine. I saw the chemistry. I know what friend mean. What kind of friend? What we talking about?
Starting point is 00:35:11 I mean, look who's talking. Because are you in a relationship or not? Me? Yes. Yeah, my girl right here. Okay. Yeah. With respect.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know. I'm trying to figure out what you're getting at. Talking about I'm like a detective. Say I ask a question. I didn't know. I'm trying to figure out what you're getting at talking about I'm like a detective.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Say I ask a question and I'll be surprised. I don't know what they're going to say. You'll be surprised like when you interview people are you not surprised at some of the answers
Starting point is 00:35:36 that they say? But the clickbait where I feel like people you're really good at throwing somebody's mischief into it. Like you would just add some shit about
Starting point is 00:35:46 somebody that has nothing to do with it. You'd be like, you know what I'm saying? Just, prime example, you'd just be like, I was about to say something, but it's not. Somebody can clip it, and then it's not sound like it. I mean, if I'm asking, let's just say, for the sake of argument, let's just say I'm sitting down and I'm talking to Michael Jordan. Can I give you an example? Alright, let's go
Starting point is 00:36:01 Fat Joe in there. Let's hypothetically hypothetically speaking, right? Yes. We use the Fat Joe, which is, this is all not real. You, like, when you're sitting down talking to Lil' Kim, you'd be like, so what do you think about Fat Joe herpes? Do you feel like he should do something about it? And then Fat Joe caught a stray.
Starting point is 00:36:19 You're giving people strays. Oh. And then it'd get clipped. Fat Joe's herpes get talked about. And then Fat Joe's like, what's going on? Why am I getting tagged in this? No, I ask. I say, hey, Lil' Kim, what is Fat Joe like? What was it like to be in the
Starting point is 00:36:33 studio with Fat Joe? What was it like to be around Puffy or Biggie, rest his soul? No, no, no. No, you don't do that. You have a specific topic, which you're good with that's why you have a very successful podcast
Starting point is 00:36:48 because you know how to clip people because you talk about Fat Joe herpes can you say Fat Joe herpes real quick no Fat Joe was good
Starting point is 00:36:55 Fat Joe was Fat Joe was good Fat Joe was unbelievable yeah I mean he talked I asked Fat Joe questions he answered the question he talked about his
Starting point is 00:37:03 his son his special needs son. Yeah, but I'm just saying, no, we're just doing it. No, we're not talking about on that interview. I'll just throw a name up there, right? No, but I'm saying, but see that last part that you said was going to get clicks, that Shadow Shark said this about Fat Joe. What about Fat Joe?
Starting point is 00:37:19 You said what you said about Fat Joe. I don't know what I said. What people say is that I ask a question. Yes, I ask the questions, but I don't know what I said. What people try to get, what people say is that I ask a question. Yes, I ask the questions, but I don't know the answers to the questions. That's why I'm asking. I ask questions
Starting point is 00:37:31 that I think that people, if my fans that are watching or listening, if they were in those shoes, they would ask those very questions. No, no, that's not true.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Chad, do you agree? I mean, I kind of agree. The point of having certain interviews or to ask the questions that people want to know the answers to. And probably if they were in Unc's shoes, those are the questions that they would ask
Starting point is 00:37:51 knowing that that's what the people want to hear. Which, no, they're not bad questions. They're good questions because they're very successful. But some people feel like they caught a stray. So, for instance, if somebody's trying to get out of that situation, you'll bring it back up like them. That's what it is. So, that's where some people are like,, you will bring it back up. Right. Like, damn. That's what it is. So that's where some people are like,
Starting point is 00:38:05 damn, he brought it back up. So that's where things can get, like, tricky. What about you sharing DMs? You bringing that up? Somebody caught him straight. Somebody takes you something in confidentiality, and you showing that. What about that?
Starting point is 00:38:25 What'd that say? Who was that? What? That DM right there Hold on, I'm reading the chat It says, why is Marco The sexiest person on this live? Thank you
Starting point is 00:38:33 No, no, no That's not What'd that DM say? Who was that from? Why is funny Marco So good looking? Thank y'all I'm reading the comments
Starting point is 00:38:40 Marco is so beautiful Hey, chat Who is the DM from? Yeah, read that Read that DM, Marco. I'm asking a question, though. Honestly, if we all went out publicly
Starting point is 00:38:48 and we was all single, do y'all feel like we take the money and fame away? Who look better on here? Let's be real. I mean, like, honestly, like, for real, scale it 1 to 10.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Scale it 1 to 10. What you rate yourself? Scale it 1 to 10. Be honest. Don't play around. Be honest. I'm going to give my 9.8. You a 9.8 on what scale?
Starting point is 00:39:05 A 20? No, 1 through 10, right? Oh, no, Marco. I was talking about a scale of 1 to 10, Marco. Y'all just got big muscles. Like, let's take away the muscles. I'm like, what the hell? What, you going to put me on Olympic?
Starting point is 00:39:21 Hey, Marco, scale of 1 to 10, what you rate yourself i'm just i'm just that honestly i mean honestly okay all right 7.5 7.5 i mean before with a haircut after haircut i mean you know i'm not who's asking you not yeah no i ain't asking i'm just asking you know i mean like like it's all about confidence i just want to make sure i'm just saying you're not my type let's get that out the way what you're not my type. Life is all about confidence. I just want to make sure you're confident. You're not my type. I'm just saying you're not my type. Let's get that out of the way. What are you trying to say?
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Starting point is 00:43:18 To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hold on. Hold on. Let me get this right. We're going to take away the fame, and we're going to walk down the street as is. I'm as muscular as I am now. My personality is the same. The only thing
Starting point is 00:43:44 you take away Is the fame But your people skills Are not good Man, please You just said I get people to open up Okay, you do But it's because
Starting point is 00:43:54 People are scared of you You are aggressive Look at that You see, you talk You are aggressive Like, I would be scared Like, see, now The only thing that saves you
Starting point is 00:44:01 Is you have a beautiful smile Let's talk about it But if you didn't have that You are aggressive Like, people But damn What else you want to think of When you were Let's talk about it. But if you didn't have that, you are aggressive. What the hell? What else you want to think of when you were cutting my hair off too? No, it ain't that. What the hell?
Starting point is 00:44:10 Okay, Chad, bald-headed. Some women like bald-headed people. All women. All women. All women. And listen, my personality wins nine times out of ten. But you just look like you know how to tell women what they want to hear. So people are going to begin as a cat person. Again, you just have, you know how to work look like You know how to tell women What they want to hear So people are going to
Starting point is 00:44:25 Begin as a cat person Again you just have You know how to work You know how to talk Yeah I'm Listen I got to get Well you got a cat
Starting point is 00:44:32 So you know how to do something I mean yeah But again I just know how to DM And you And you be posting it People be catching straight They talking to you
Starting point is 00:44:41 In confidentiality You posting a DM Who is the DM I still don't know Who is DM? I still don't know. Who was the DM, huh? I still don't know. All right, we're going to talk about it. No, we're going to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Usher. Okay, okay. Hey, I want to ask you something, too. You've had Offset, G Herbo, Boosie, I mean, stars like Lala on the couch. Who's your dream? Shout out to Lala. Shout out to Lala. Hey, who's your dream interview that you've yet to do?
Starting point is 00:45:07 I'll say, and I think, okay okay I think Chris Tucker will be dope that's a good one okay you got Chris Tucker I have yeah he's one of my first ones but I knew Tuck so what about Dave Chappelle why you ain't got Dave Chappelle yet because he don't want to catch a straight nah Nah, I'm okay. I'm going to have him on the show. Eventually I will. That's a good one. Hey, would you, I got a,
Starting point is 00:45:29 I got a list. I got a list of people. I got like five people that I think in 2025, let me ask you a question. If you could interview Michael Jackson, what was something that you could ask him right now? Like live, what would you ask Michael Jackson?
Starting point is 00:45:42 Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah, boy. shit that's a good one there boy probably why wasn't Thriller enough break that down because he drove himself crazy trying to replicate Thriller
Starting point is 00:46:01 because Thriller you have to, that was Haley's Comet. Most people will only see one Haley's Comet. He had Thriller. At the time, 35 million hard copies sold. But everything that came after that,
Starting point is 00:46:18 even though it was doing Diamond, which is 10, how many artists now, and you know the music industry, how many artists now would kill to have a diamond album? Hard copies he had it bad was a diamond dangerous
Starting point is 00:46:34 but it was a thriller and so he made himself you know, it's like a pitcher throwing a perfect game. And then he's like, he has one hitter, he has two hitters, he has the ERA, but he's like, it's not a perfect game. He still might.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Just because he didn't replicate Thriller again, did anybody think less of him? I mean, Prince, do you think less of Prince because he didn't? Can we compare this to football? As in, like, let's say, let's take this in football terms. Like, get more football ring.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Like, let's say Patrick Mahomes is Michael Jackson. He wants more. Yes. But here's the thing. No, you have to take it as an individual. So let's just say, for the sake of argument, he goes to the Super Bowl, he wins, and he throws for 300 yards. Now, the next two Super Bowl, he throws for 150, and he's like, oh, my God. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:32 But he still won. Those are great performances. They was in the biggest stage. So, look, I knew off the wall. I think, you know, as far as, like, musically, me personally, I like off the wall better than not commercially as far as like musically me personally i like off the wall better than not commercially thrill is the biggest album commercially but you go back and look at michael's off the wall right it's a masterpiece yeah but that's not what he thought yeah i like so another thing i feel like you're the only person um that can get 50 cent job will be sit
Starting point is 00:48:02 down could you make that happen? No, I'm just saying, I really feel like you can sit them two down, and also Bow Wow and Little Romeo, because people feel like it was beef between them two. If you can get them two to sit down, that would be you. I don't think there's beef between. I think the thing is, look, there's the natural comparison. They were young teenage
Starting point is 00:48:21 guys. But we need to hear them talk, but that's the thing, because you get them two down and talk to them so we get the history behind that. I can try. I'm working on another beef that I'm trying to patch up. Which one? I ain't telling. Hey, Marco.
Starting point is 00:48:40 If you had the opportunity to host something like SNL, would you do it? You got to read a trailer, Pompter, and reading is not my fundamental if you had the opportunity to host something like SNL, would you do it? Oh, you gotta read a teleprompter, and reading is not my fundamental. And that's your strong suit? Uh, no. You know. Don't say, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Mm-mm. Oh, don't do that. I didn't do nothing! You can't read? Nah, I can read. I told y'all I was gonna read a Harry Potter book in a day. So it's just, I read what I want to read. You feel me? What I'm into.
Starting point is 00:49:10 So you can't read a teleprompter? They just got to slow it down. How slow are you talking? Me just having skill in school? No, I mean, how slow does the teleprompter need to do for you to be able to be on SNL? Uh,
Starting point is 00:49:28 probably about, like, 3.5. I just made that up. Yeah. Because normally, it's like 28, 30, 33,
Starting point is 00:49:39 something like that. Yeah. Well, you feel like, do you feel like, uh, you would be able to host, would you take the bt awards if they told you to host it maybe what you mean maybe
Starting point is 00:49:52 see a lot of times i look at stuff i look at stuff as lifelong goals for me that's never being a host of of something like thatL, BET, that ain't never been my thing. No, no, no. We're talking about BET. BET said we want you to host the Hip Hop Awards. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Hold on, hold on. Me, Unc, and Ocho to host the Hip Hop Awards. Yes. No, no, no. I'm not, no, not you. Unc. What you,
Starting point is 00:50:16 come on, man. If they ask you to host the BET Awards, Hip Hop Awards, do you feel like that's something that you do where it's kind of like some jobs ain't for everybody? Yeah, but I'm not, I'm not like Hip Hop, though. That's what I'm saying. do you feel like that's something that you do where it's kind of like some jobs ain't for everybody?
Starting point is 00:50:25 Yeah, but I'm not, I'm not like hip hop though. That's what I'm saying. So you feel like you have to be like understand everything, you know? Yeah. That's why,
Starting point is 00:50:33 that's why we would do it together. It would be perfect. But you're not hip hop either. We're not hip hop. You're not. How I'm not hip hop? You're not hip hop.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Like you wouldn't consider like as an NFL hip hop player. Let's talk about it. I hop. You're not hip hop. Like you wouldn't consider it like as an NFL hip hop player. Let's talk about it. I am. You weren't even born when I was playing. But Chad, you're not a hip hop type of person. You don't like, you're not hip hop. Don't nobody think of hip hop and think of Chad.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Like, oh, Chad, you're not hip hop. Hold on. When you think of me as a football player, what do you think then? I'm just curious. I could like some, you know what I'm just curious I could like some you know what I'm saying like salsa
Starting point is 00:51:08 dancing like I could see you just more relaxed like you wanna be Scarface smoke the cigar like more calm like you're calm
Starting point is 00:51:15 but like you like you're not you know what I'm saying like listen when I think of when I think of hip hop right when I think of
Starting point is 00:51:22 our culture like I was I was future me was future before future. Does that make sense? Now, I'm just older now, and my ways about... Let's say this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:35 All right. When you think of hip-hop, name three artists, hip-hop, that's overall, that's part of hip-hop. Go ahead. Like Drake,
Starting point is 00:51:42 Kendrick. No, no, no, no. We're talking about youre tom what's really with you what oh my toe are you 72 72 right 68 okay you know i came i came up and i came up in the era i came up uh rock him krs1 ll Cool J Big Daddy Kane I came up in that era Exactly Okay so Chad Name hip hop
Starting point is 00:52:08 Three artists When you say hip hop My times right See that's what I'm saying It's not I'm saying my times right During my time I'm saying why are you
Starting point is 00:52:16 I'm saying You knew what I asked you Why'd you Like you know You're not hip hop What time What era yo I'm saying what is hip
Starting point is 00:52:23 What introduced you As a kid Going through middle school What is hip hop to you what is hip What introduced you As a kid Going through middle school What is hip hop to you Who was like Introduced you to hip hop Uh See that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:52:32 Man let me finish man Okay I'll show Trick Daddy I'm from Miami Trick Daddy Trina And Ross You just said my
Starting point is 00:52:42 Do you see How you went You went through it Like he went through He went from New York He. You just said my... Do you see how you went and you went through it like he went through... He went from New York. You just said when I was in middle school. I just told you
Starting point is 00:52:53 when I was in middle school. But that's it. It's more than that. I get it. You talking about where you're from. Like hip-hop is worldwide. Again, like he said. So in middle school...
Starting point is 00:53:01 Hold on, hold on, hold on. When you was in middle school, you would listen to hip-hop worldwide? Yes, I would listen to worldwide. Snoop Dogg, let's say Snoop Dogg introduced. Like, I grew up on him, right? Yeah. Y'all know Pat-Pat?
Starting point is 00:53:12 Who? Because, you know, actually, it was the Sugar Hill Gang in 1979. And that really kind of jumped it off. And then you had, you know, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. You had KR was one. You had Rock Him. And then you had the NWA. You had the Public Enemies.
Starting point is 00:53:28 You had LL Cool J made it cool. LL Cool J was a cool rapper. He could talk about getting the ladies and seducing the ladies. And he wasn't always talking about smashing and smoking weed and drinking lean. LL made it cool. LL was a cool rapper. He made it fun.
Starting point is 00:53:45 So, yeah. But let me tell you what. LL made it cool LL was a cool rapper he made it fun right so yeah but let me tell you what the ESPYs oh Shannon okay if ESPN reached out and asked you about
Starting point is 00:53:52 now now you're talking about something that Unc can get his teeth into hold on now when you talk about them calling you now you gonna suggest
Starting point is 00:53:59 I do it with you or you gonna do it by yourself oh Joe I was just I was just playing what Marco was saying are you gonna do it by yourself or you going to do it by yourself? Ocho, I was just playing what Marco was saying. Are you going to do it by yourself or with him?
Starting point is 00:54:09 Like, the world is watching. What are you going to do? Yeah, what you going to do? I'm not, look, that,
Starting point is 00:54:16 that, guys, see, those things interest you, Ocho. Those don't interest me. No, or like,
Starting point is 00:54:21 listen, we speaking hypothetically. What are you going to do? Yeah, there we go. There we go. Me, I really only do things that I'm passionate about, Marco. If anybody
Starting point is 00:54:35 that knows Shannon, that's why I'm normally successful at the things that I do because I'm really passionate about doing it. And if I'm not passionate about it, I don't do it. I don't have a whole lot of hobbies because there's not a whole Right. Because I'm really passionate about doing it. And if I'm not passionate about it, I don't do it. I don't have a whole lot of hobbies because there's not a whole lot of things I'm passionate about.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Can you get Eminem on your podcast? Can you talk to him? Like, that would be big. A lot of people I can talk to would be big. Hey, Marco, why don't you interview me?
Starting point is 00:54:59 Who? Me. You heard what he said. I don't know an artist. Me. Who? I don't know who me said. I don't know artist me. Who? I don't know who me is. I never heard of that artist.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Can you interview Chad Johnson? I mean, what is it? You know, like, you a cool dude, but you're not my type. I don't want to, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to sit down and talk to you. No? I'm saying we good. Like, you a great person.
Starting point is 00:55:22 You don't think that would be funny? I'm funny. I'm funny. It's not about funny. Man, saying we good. Like, you're a great person. You don't think that would be funny? It ain't about funny. I'm funny. It's not about funny. Man, get me Bobby. You doing all this talking. Tell Bobby I want to sit down with Bobby. Let me call Bobby right now while we live.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Hold on. Hey. Hey, why you call? You know what this is? Yeah. You know what that is? Oh, that's that thing that be on TikTok. The TikTok shop.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Nah, yeah. You ever took one of these? Nah, I haven't. I really don't need that.? Oh, that's that thing that be on TikTok, the TikTok shop. Nah, yeah. You ever took one of these? Nah, I haven't. I really don't need that. I ain't that old. She don't even answer your call. Oh, yeah, you know. Shouldn't be happening.
Starting point is 00:55:59 How long y'all been together? No, but what do that pill do for you? You shouldn't y'all really be taking them pills. Barro Spar? Yeah. What you mean, what it do? You know, you know what you needed to do. No, I'm saying, I'm saying do it like...
Starting point is 00:56:14 Have you ever taken an energy drink? Have you ever drank energy drink? I drunk, yeah, 28 Black, I have. Okay, so it give you a little boost, right? Yeah. Okay, there you go hey what happened what if she don't want the boost this ain't for her it's for you and when she hey she gonna like it she's like oh but here's the thing marco you will always because if you don't do it all the time she's gonna say hey i want you to bring that pp you had the first time we got together but
Starting point is 00:56:44 then that's when you become addicted and now I got to pop pills every time. That's exactly what I'm giving her. What you just said. Addicted. Hey, Margo. Why don't you get with somebody your age and you don't need to pop them? Whoa, whoa, whoa. What are we going to do? Go to the doctor and visit together?
Starting point is 00:56:59 The hell I want somebody my age for. You're right. Margo, you just take them like this, right? And you put them on your tongue. And you let them sit there. Why you doing that with all of us on here, though? Huh? Why you pop that
Starting point is 00:57:11 with all of us in here? He might got something in the wings, Marco. Damn. Listen, I'm popping it. That's my man, Liam. I'm popping it to the show.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Hey, second, if it's a party full of dudes and everything, you pop it like this. Like, it's just a number of guys in here. Like, no, you ain't got to do that right now.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I ain't over there. I'm at home. I'm going upstairs to go into bed. I don't know what else you got going on. That ain't got nothing to do with me. I'm at home. I'm just saying, but you ain't got to be, yeah. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Hey, tell us about your facial journey. You've been posting that on TikTok. You've been telling about your journey. Oh, yeah. It's just when you, I feel like being in the industry sometimes when you accept yourself sometimes people find things to pull away from you and that's what brings out insecurity of people but once you know you're dealing with something you got it and you
Starting point is 00:57:54 know it's a problem you can work on it yourself but sometimes i feel like when you get in here people pick on you and call it out and it can make people like feel insecure and they don't know what to do but once you accept it and you be okay with it like I know this is what I'm dealing with just it becomes a journey but sometimes people
Starting point is 00:58:10 hide it because people pick on you about it so that's one thing that nobody ever you know tell you how to do because nobody knows
Starting point is 00:58:17 that you're going to be who you are like we don't just pick like you didn't know you'd be like like probably the 58th best tight end in the world
Starting point is 00:58:24 you don't know that. But what I'm... But here's the thing, Mark. Let me ask you a question. So when you were growing up, obviously kids can be very, very cruel. They made fun of your skin.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Right. And so at this age, now you finally decided, said, okay, you got some money. You can go get it treated. So did they tell you that they're going to be able to treat it and you'll be able to smooth your skin out. And you won't know that you had this. I think it's when you have acne.
Starting point is 00:58:52 It's like, yeah, acne and asthma. So it's all that, you know. Yeah, because my, you know, my mama was burnt and she had me. So I came out of that. So that's where the acne came from. That ain't got nothing to do with it. That's not a genetic trait. Okay, well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:10 That's what my brother told me. But okay, so more importantly, what I was trying to say is something become a journey when you don't hide it. And I feel like being an entertainer, some people, you can use makeup all the time. I mean, you can use filters, but you just got to be true to yourself and also show people because people can look up to you and the same route so
Starting point is 00:59:29 sometimes never hide your journey that's what i learned just let it be that you know yeah listen so how many how many treatments did they tell you that it's going to take or is it going to be an ongoing process it's the ongoing thing it's gonna it's gonna be a while but you know and also eating i didn't know like growing up on food stamps and stuff, we got a lot of snacks. And my mama never really took us to the doctor's. All we did was just eat snacks all day. But some people don't know their child. Everybody can't eat the same.
Starting point is 00:59:55 So the stuff I was eating was making me weak. You're making it worse. Yeah. Yeah. So, again, we just from the hood. And when you're from that, sometimes you got to learn a lot of stuff. I was on a podcast and I recently said, like, a woman showed me how to love myself more. Because when you grow up without a daddy and your mom is just like working all the time, nobody there to show you that.
Starting point is 01:00:15 So with that being said, I said a woman showed me how to like properly take a shower. People are like, oh, you don't know how to take a shower? I'm like, no, it's not that. But nobody was never there. My mom would just wash your ass and get out and my daddy wasn't there but when you get with somebody they show you properly how to do it this way right they start to show you to a man that's why i said women are the best thing that you can do to your life or whatever your partner is whatever you love you know i'm saying wherever they come from they can show you a new step so that's why it's always good to date somebody that's
Starting point is 01:00:43 you know on another level that can improve you not just with money not just for what they got but but teach you how to take a shower okay i like that now we're gonna get clipped no i'm just saying i'm just saying you didn't have to say that again no i'm just saying that there's no i know yeah yeah i know yeah it's like it's i know so before you became fernie marco you were dirty marco i mean i didn't say dirty it was just like like, you know, I was just, I was rough. Funky Marco. No, I was just rough. Like, Shannon, let's be real.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Who told you how to take a bath? Was your daddy and mama there? No. My sister, she's eight years older than me. She don't know how to wash like a man. So you was funky too. No, bro. No, bro.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Bro, look, I grew up in a different situation. I didn't have a shower, so I grew up taking a bath in a tub. But, you know, she told me how to, you know, lather it up right around here and right around here and go around your neck, get all that up under here. But did you use two rags or one rag? Back in the day, I only had one rag. That's not cool.
Starting point is 01:01:38 So you used two rags? Yeah. Why? We barely, bro, I was happy to have a tub to be able to take a shower when we had we had to deal well water so broke slow down i'm okay hold on why you use two rag what the other one for your ass oh so you you use a different rag okay Okay. That's what I'm saying. We got to do that. So tonight, use two rags. Yeah, I use two.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Sometimes I use a loofah. I have one of those little things. Not a loofah. What do they call them? A loofah. Yeah, the little small thing. I got one of those. I got one of those little like cloths that i use
Starting point is 01:02:25 for my body then i use that thing for my face well can i ask you a question what's a proper way and it's like talking to men out there that's dealing with it a proper way for a god to leave a woman that's in love with him because i feel like guys don't know how to break up with women yeah it ain't no proper way. The proper way to leave? Yeah. I mean, it's pretty easy. What you mean the proper way? No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:02:52 When a woman love you as hard, it's different from a man that leave when a woman break. Because they leave us in the quickness, right? Yes. How you know she love me? But it's always easier for the person that wants to break up. It's not.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Because they're invested. See, if you're not ready to get out, Ocho and I, we talk about this a lot, buddy Marco, It's not the same as that person that really don't want you to go. So it's hard. The more you're invested in something, the harder it is to let it go. Who are you trying to leave? No, it's not me. I just want to speak for the man that's out there that's listening, you know? Oh, okay. So that was that. It was a chat question. Okay. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company,
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Starting point is 01:07:15 That's cool. So you try to lead somebody? I don't know. You know, you know, I got nobody left you. I know I got a relationship with God. We are still in there. We're doing good. He's about to leave you. We is still in there. We doing good. Nah, he about to
Starting point is 01:07:25 leave you. He said you can't read. Nah, I'm decent. I read what I need to read. Thanks for, you know. What? Hey, boy, you shut up.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Have a woman ever made fun of your skin? Oh, yeah. I mean, the worst comment I got as a kid telling me it looked like somebody stepped on my face with cleats. That was a work. All right. How we exit? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Well, women like to mash Dr. Pimple Popper. They like to press mash blackheads. What's going on with this? Anybody ever told you you look like Ms. Netta? They do sometimes. I donple Popper. They like to press mashed blackheads. What's going on with this? Anybody ever tell you you look like Ms. Netta? They do sometimes. I don't get them. It used to bother me. But guess what?
Starting point is 01:08:11 It don't stop them checks from coming in. And it don't stop them young ones from opening up. It sure don't. So let me... As a matter of fact,
Starting point is 01:08:18 you look more like Ms. Netta to me with that skin, that acting, now that you brought it up. You should have left that alone. You look...
Starting point is 01:08:24 Put some glasses on. I tell you what, chat that alone. You look, put some glasses on. I tell you what, Chad, let's put glasses on, put glasses on him, put glasses on me, and let's turn to the side, and let's see who looks like Ms. Miller. It ain't about the acne. Yes, it is. I'm glad you brought that up, but since you took it there, let's go there
Starting point is 01:08:40 now. Put some glasses on. Now we're getting aggressive. I'm really scared right now. I can sue you right now because I'm on your show and now I feel embarrassed. This is a lawsuit. You're embarrassed, huh? But I'm embarrassed. You've been listening like this for 30 plus years. You get a cease and desist.
Starting point is 01:08:54 And when you went to the doctor to try not to look like Ms. Netta. And there's 20,000 people watching. I'm a little afraid. And I lost it because of the plane. Ocho. Yeah. He the one that went to the doctor To try not to look like Miss Netta
Starting point is 01:09:07 I haven't done nothing to my skin I am saying This is a lawsuit Hey What a lawsuit Why y'all arguing Because I No because look
Starting point is 01:09:15 When you come on somebody's show I feel ambushed Like why am I getting attacked Why didn't you say ambush I ain't saying nothing I'm telling you This is live And you can't
Starting point is 01:09:23 You can't stop What I want to like cook up You live. You can't stop what I want to cook up. You said ambush. You said ambush. How am I ambushing you? My hands are up because I'm afraid. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Oh, I'm not going to let you try to empty the clip on me and then hold your hand. I'm going to fire back at your ass. Whose show is this? This is your show, right?
Starting point is 01:09:42 I'm a guest. Yes, let's all get Ocho. You're supposed to make guests feel comfortable. I ain This is your show, right? I'm a guest. I guess. Let's all get Ocho. You supposed to make guests feel comfortable. I ain't uncomfortable. Hey, no. I'm mad. Ocho ain't firing back at you.
Starting point is 01:09:50 I'm trying to empty the club. He's not funnier than me, so he won't say no jokes my way. It ain't about funny. It's actually about being real. Okay, my bad. But funny, Marco,
Starting point is 01:10:00 if you turn to the side and look at your skin, really? Is that really what we going to do? But I don't show people my side portfolio. Bro, look straight on. I don't have to turn sideways. Look straight on.
Starting point is 01:10:15 It's the skin, bro. It's the skin. Hey, you said he looked like Ms. Netta first, though. No, I read a comment. This is y'all's show. These are y'all guests. I'm not talking about, but Marco,. No, I read a comment. This is y'all's show. These are y'all guests. I'm not talking about... But, Marco, I mean,
Starting point is 01:10:27 truth be told now, I mean, the chat being real, I mean, if you look at the skin... All right, but if me and you went one-on-one to get girls, guess who walking out with them? Boy, stop it. Boy, stop.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Don't do that. Who walking out with them? I mean, I'm... Like, you know what I'm saying? Just personality skills and just, like. Nah, bro. You're not going to bring money until you're not going to bring money. I'm past that.
Starting point is 01:10:51 First of all, I'm past that stage. If you'd have caught me in my 20s, if you'd have caught me in my 20s or early 30s, I could have made the competition. Chad, who looks better between me and him? I'm a grandfather, bro. I'm a grandfather. It doesn't matter. I can get what I get. Who looks better between me and him?
Starting point is 01:11:06 Really, dude? What? He the only one in here? Lord have mercy. Oh, bro. Marco. I'm just a granddad. I'm about to be 57.
Starting point is 01:11:19 And you don't look like it. I know. I ain't trying to get no girls now. I'm trying to find somebody to settle find somebody i'm just saying i have a great appearance i have a nice sex appeal and i'm letting you know in his room if if it came did you leave it at home i'm at home right now oh damn i just told you i'm in new y. Bro, you not in New York. That's a green screen.
Starting point is 01:11:47 No, it's not no green screen. What is going on with you? I work hard for this shit. All you got to do is get up and walk. I'm not about to walk off on your show. I'm not doing that. I'm not rude. What's that?
Starting point is 01:12:00 Wow. Yes. Bro, do you understand that Ocho and I be in TV and we understand how green screen work? Okay, what's green screen? It's night outside. What do y'all want me to see? Airplane fly past? What do y'all fucking want to see? Man, I'm at my house. Exactly, you're at the green screen.
Starting point is 01:12:18 I'm at the green room. The pool room. You ain't no green room, dude. This is what I call it. And you say you live in New York, right? Yes, I do. And that's the Hudson River behind you, right? I don't know what's back there, Bartender.
Starting point is 01:12:31 How the man gonna get back? What's the name of your building? That's uncalled for. I'm just asking, what's the name of your building? I don't have to speak on where I live because that's part of my safety protocols. Well, it's pretty easy to tell based on the building behind you. No, it's not because it's not that pretty easy. These are $20,000 a month, partner.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Okay. And where you live? What's your apartment? What's your address? Me? Yeah, what's your address? I mean, I'm not here. Exactly, you see?
Starting point is 01:13:04 And you don't just give that out. No? I mean, I'm out here. Exactly, you see? And you don't just give that out. No, I'm saying I'm out here. Let's talk about this interview you had with G Herbo that got uncomfortable. Okay, okay. Oh, you got it. This is why I don't want to come. This is why I'm here. This is why people don't come on that damn show.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Yeah. Now, tell us about that interview. That was the chairman asking me the whole night about that interview that was the chat about that interview what happened all right so all right first off let's say this while we talking all right you know what all right i was about to you know i gotta realize uh what do you where you want to start i mean how did it get? I mean, you started out. It wasn't. It was more of like they were on a level of trolling. And it was just matching it.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Chicago got a nice way of trolling. So, you know what I'm saying? With them two, they was just enjoying themselves. And, you know, as a man, I could have just, you know, enjoyed it back. So, it was just more of me trying to read the room. But as I'm reading it, the shit is real happening in real time. So, they didn't mean nothing personal. They just really like trolling.
Starting point is 01:14:05 You know what I'm saying? I just didn't match the troll. I wasn't on my feet at the time. Were you scared? Were you scared? No, I wasn't scared because it wasn't like, you know, it wasn't nothing dark. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:14:14 And like, you know, in my fight room, I'm 17 and 0. So besides that, in school, my school I went to. I ain't seen no water move yet. How you got still water behind you? What are you talking about? I ain't seen no boat. I ain't seen no water move yet. How you got still water behind you? What are you talking about? I ain't seen no boat. I ain't seen no boat class by. I ain't seen no water move.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Yeah, because it's nighttime. Water move at nighttime? Oh, so boats don't go at night, huh? Where the ferry at? I don't see no ferry. I'm in New York right now. Ain't no bird flew by. I'm in New York right now. Ain't no plane. Ain't no bird flew by.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Ain't no plane. Ain't no helicopter. Ain't nothing. It's not furnished or nothing. I just moved here. I just got a computer. I ain't talking about the apartment. I'm talking about the backdrop.
Starting point is 01:14:53 You told us it cost $20,000 a month because it was furnished. It fully furnished. That's what you said. But I got to pick the furniture out. No. If it's furnished, it already comes with furniture. You just move in. No, but I got furniture, it already comes with furniture. You just move in. No, but I got to pick a certain type
Starting point is 01:15:07 of furniture. No, you don't. A furnished apartment, you don't pick the furniture. If I get up... See? You see me... Yeah, I saw. Yeah, I see. Come on back. You come on back. Yeah, well...
Starting point is 01:15:26 Chad! you come on back yeah well Chad you see that's how you know you see what happened exactly that's all I wanted him to do Ocho was move and show the Chad
Starting point is 01:15:38 that that was a green screen hey that was a that was a great way to end that goddamn interview that was that was perfect hey that was man y'all end that goddamn interview that was perfect y'all go check it out
Starting point is 01:15:47 you can check it out on IG you can check it out on X and he has a tour coming up that he didn't get an opportunity to tell us about but we'll bring his ass back and get him over here to tell us about the tour hey Chad I'm sorry chat hey that was classic oh joe tennessee is moving on from nico la malava malavia he's the starting quarterback
Starting point is 01:16:17 he was scheduled to make 2.4 million in nil and collective. He saw the quarterback from Georgia, Beck, leave and go get $4 million from Miami. Right. He stopped coming to practice. I guess he missed some meetings and so forth and so on until they bumped it up to $4 million. He blah, blah, whatever the case. I'm going by what I read, Chad.
Starting point is 01:16:39 I don't know if this is true or not. I'm just saying that's what's being reported. Right. Ocho, you and I talk a lot about this. Yes, sir. Basing your value on what someone else is making. Come on now. 2.4 million.
Starting point is 01:16:54 And maybe he's looking at it like, hey, maybe I should get this. I should get that. Right. But this is the way I look at it, Ocho. And I think I've had this conversation with you. Uh-huh. If you did something special and nobody told you that it was special, would you still feel special? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:17:19 So if Carson Beck doesn't leave Georgia and go get $4 million, is 2.4 still enough? Come on, man. Me, I could tell you I did this, I did that, but that's not why you do things. Right. I feel even if nobody knows I did something special, because I did it out of the kindness of my heart, I still feel special. The young man is going to have to understand, never base your value on what someone else has gotten. Comparison is a thief of joy every time.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Can I ask you a question? Yes. Who won the national championship last year? Ohio State. Who did Ohio State play? Notre Dame. Tennessee's quarterback. When it comes to ranking of quarterbacks last year,
Starting point is 01:18:16 Shador Sanders, Beck, Cam Ward, who would he rank in that group? Jackson, Dart from Ole Miss. No, I don't think anybody had him up there. Okay. Okay. I'm just asking. I understand NIL is important.
Starting point is 01:18:36 It's a good thing. But if you are what you think you are, then they wouldn't have no problem paying you what you think you're worth. Yes. They wouldn't have no problem paying you what you think you're worth. They wouldn't have no problem. They wouldn't. They've seen what Carson Beck has done at Georgia. So,
Starting point is 01:18:53 he was able to get what he wants in Miami. If you want a pay raise, then what you do up on the field is pretty easy. Especially now that they allow the play players in college. If your play is that spectacular, where you feel you need a bump from 2.4 to 4, then your play would show exactly why you need that bump.
Starting point is 01:19:22 He didn't come to practice. He didn't show up. And they moved on from. What does that tell you? What does that tell you? And, and, and, and,
Starting point is 01:19:30 and, and if you're what you say you are, if you're playing that way, hey, there are people in Knoxville. There are other things that you probably would have had an opportunity. Listen, I'm,
Starting point is 01:19:40 I'm just, I'm just being realistic. If I want to raise Ocho, I, if I want to raise, I can't just not show up from ESPN. Like, you know what? I'm supposed to come on Monday I want to raise, Ocho, if I want to raise, I can't just not show up from ESPN like, you know what, I'm supposed to come on Monday, then Tuesday, like, nah.
Starting point is 01:19:49 I'm supposed to be out on assignment, or nah. What? It's really easy. It's really easy. If you want four million, you get the money by what you do on the field. If you only make it two and a half,
Starting point is 01:20:04 you only make it two and a half for a reason. you only make it two and a half for a reason. You only make it two and a half for a reason. Ocho, how much you making right now, though? Well, he probably going to go somewhere else. I'm not sure if somewhere else he making another. But here's the thing. The way I look at Ocho, he's one of these people that quit a job before he has another one lined up.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Now, maybe he has one already lined up. Maybe he's talked to a program that can give him four million dollars. Right. Maybe that's the case. Whoa, whoa, whoa one already lined up. Maybe he's talked to a program that can give him $4 million. Right. Maybe that's the case. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down. Slow down.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Slow down real quick. The programs that can pay that kind of money for a quarterback are Power 5 schools. You do know all Power 5 schools right now have a starting quarterback already, right? I believe so. Come on, then. Come on, then. Come on, now. I guess we're going to find out, Ocho. Hopefully it works out for the young man. One, it's all about competing.
Starting point is 01:20:50 So now you put yourself in a predicament where you got to go somewhere else and beat somebody else out. Yeah. Because the schools that have the kind of money to pay you $4 million are the big boys. And all the big boys have starting quarterbacks. Ocho got a bit of sad news.
Starting point is 01:21:07 Former LSU wide receiver passed away in an apparent suicide in his car last night. Following Lacey's passing, his lawyer issued a statement that I'm going to read. Kyron was scheduled to have his matter heard before a grand jury tomorrow, where we were very confident the evidence, after being fully collected and reviewed, would lead to a declination of charges. From the very beginning, this so-called investigation took on the appearance of an overzealous targeted effort. What can only be described as a witch hunt, fueled by who Kyron was and the public profile he carried, the decision by the investigating agency to charge him at all, in our view,
Starting point is 01:21:48 was not only unjustified, it was disturbing. Imperative to understand that the La Farouche parish district attorney to this day has not formally charged Kyron. Kyron was a young man with immense promise and he was crushed under the weight of the irresponsible and prejudiced process. The negative barrage on social media, the circulation of his mugshot by nearly every news outlet rather than the standard photo,
Starting point is 01:22:17 the recent civil lawsuit filed against him, and that name of a defendant who mysteriously wasn't charged with a crime, only him and the overall tone of the coverage painted a deeply biased picture before he ever had his chance to defend himself. There was never a presumption of innocence, which is exemplified by the NFL pulling his draft card over the mere accusation without affording him the slightest chance to defend himself. The pressure and the perception likely became unbearable. Let us be absolutely clear. This is far from over. We will be demanding a full review and transparent review of how this investigation was conducted and why those responsible for this gross miscarriage of justice must and will be held accountable.
Starting point is 01:23:07 But it's sad, man. That's sad. I don't want to get into details of everything going on, but, you know, young bull, young bull taking his life with having so much to live for, it's sad. I wish you understood.
Starting point is 01:23:28 And had let the process played out, Ocho. But like his attorney said, that the weight and the pressure. We talked about this, Ocho. And people tried to beat me up. And I said, I didn't want to beat the young man up too bad. What he did was wrong. And if he's wrong, he gets go to cry. But now, Ocho, it's no longer innocent until proven guilty.
Starting point is 01:23:50 You're guilty until proven innocent. The reason why I didn't beat him up for the speeding, and this is what I said. I said, guys, I've gotten stopped. I got stopped twice. I was going 108 in a 55. I was going 92. I got two tickets in a matter of three minutes. I said, I understand. Nothing happened. But I say, as an athlete, we sometimes believe that
Starting point is 01:24:13 we're immune to something bad happen until it happens. I promise you, the young man, when he was driving that night, he did not expect, he did not intend, he didn't think that something like this could go wrong. And we never do until it does, Ocho. Yeah. Nobody gets in. I don't believe people get into their vehicle in speed 70. And now if he's trying to evade the cops, people to try to evade the cops. Yes.
Starting point is 01:24:40 But I think, you know, you get into a car, you travel at a high rate of speed. We're not thinking that front tire or the back tire could blow out we don't think like that we don't think somebody could all of a sudden pull out in front of us or somebody switch lanes we don't think that we think we are impervious to anything that could possibly happen but I said what happened a man tragically lost his life. And the person that was responsible is going to have to have their day in court, and they're going to have to be held accountable to whatever that may be.
Starting point is 01:25:15 If he goes through the process, and this is why I can't get upset, Ocho. If somebody goes to, in today's time, somebody goes through the process, and 12 men and women, 12 men and women find him not guilty or he has a judge verdict. Right. I mean, what am I supposed to do? I think sometimes people take what we say and they don't listen to what we're trying to say, Ojo. I said him driving at a high rate of speed, him not stopping.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Ocho, I mean, they get you when you fail to render aid. Yeah. Sometimes if you just stop, help the man out, call 911 yourself as opposed to leaving the scene. Leaving the scene of an accident, failure to render aid, traveling, so forth and so on. We don't need to get into the technicalities of it. But this young man is gone.
Starting point is 01:26:09 Gone. And although he didn't think it was a way out, Ocho, because sometimes people just want to get out of the pain. But what he felt, what he did is he left more pain because he left his mom and his dad and his siblings if he has those uncles and aunts? Imagine the pain that they're in. He's trying to relieve his pain and he caused so much more pain on so many more people.
Starting point is 01:26:35 Yeah. My heart breaks for the gentleman that lost his life months ago. My heart breaks. My heart breaks for this young man's family because their answers, they're never going to be able to get answered to. Their questions. And it's sad on both sides.
Starting point is 01:26:59 I don't know what's going to come. Maybe they could. I don't know, Ocho. I just know this is, there's two tragedies now. Because five, six months ago, a gentleman lost his life. And last night,
Starting point is 01:27:17 a young man lost his life. So now we have two tragedies, two families dealing with loss unexpectedly, tragically. I pray for both families that God somehow give them the strength, the courage, and the understanding to deal with this because it's not easy. Death is never easy.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Never, not easy. Death is never easy. Never, ever easy. And the younger the individual, the harder it is to deal with. Because when we were growing up, we thought only old people died. I didn't see a whole lot of young people die. We thought old people. You get to be 70, 80, 90 years old. But now we see that's not the case. That's why you can't be upset because the deaf
Starting point is 01:28:10 does not discriminate. He'll knock on the young. He'll knock on the rich. He'll knock on the poor. And when he has that appointment, it's the one appointment that you will never be able to reschedule.
Starting point is 01:28:24 You got to take that appointment when it's the one appointment that you'll never be able to reschedule. You got to take that appointment when it's your time. And the thing is, we don't know when it is our time. Kyra Lacey gone at the age of 24. My heart breaks for both families. It really, really does. Dang.
Starting point is 01:28:42 Kyra Lacey's father wrote, Kenny Lacey, young parents, start talking to your kids at a very early age and make sure they are confident and comfortable confiding in you. Don't be cool with I'm all right or I'm good when you know deep down something isn't right. Mental health is real. And for the most part, it's invisible. Don't ignore the signs, even if they may seem small. Chat, send your thoughts and prayers out to both families impacted by
Starting point is 01:29:14 this. If you have somebody in your life, make sure you tell them you love them. Check on your friends. Check on family, friends, and loved ones. And like Kenny Lacey said, I'm alright. Something seems off. Go check them out.
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Starting point is 01:33:14 Now it's time for our last segment of the evening. It's time for Q&A. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy said, Ocho, I don't understand how you got 50-11 jobs but can't come up with $5,200. Make it make sense. Love y'all. I agree, doc. What happened?
Starting point is 01:33:34 Even if he, oh, he got 50-11 jobs, all he got to do is put like $100 with each job. There it is. There's my money. Listen, I'm going to get it to you. I told you I need to finish some things. Now, let me finish. When I finish the pool,
Starting point is 01:33:48 I promise you, when I finish the pool, I'm going to send you money. I promise you. Sure, you heard this thing? No, I'm just saying, let me finish the pool. Let me finish building the pool
Starting point is 01:33:57 and I'm going to give you money. Now, if we don't do that, if we don't, if I give you the money, right, the Laker tickets, let the Laker tickets take a place of the 5200 this man says let him buy a 700 000 car let him get a new crib furnish it let him take my money and build a pool now what, what you have to understand is the $5,200, I set that aside.
Starting point is 01:34:28 So the money I'm using for these things that I've worked hard for, that I deserve, I'm in my winning season right now. Like, this has nothing to do with your money. I'm spending the money. I want to win. I can't win. You just bought a dog for $10,000, a new one. But that's my money, Ocho. But that's how I know you win it.
Starting point is 01:34:49 We both win. You've been winning for years. Listen, I've been cheap for 30-some years. Let me have one year. Let me have one year where I can live up and turn up. Minus my $5,200, you could have another 30 years of winning, but I want to win. I want to continue to win with my $5,200.
Starting point is 01:35:06 You just told me to take you to the Laker game. Make up your mind. You want the $5,200 or you want to go to the Laker game? Which one? I want you to take me to a Laker game, but I want to spend $5,200 on an outfit. $5,200 on an outfit? Mm-hmm. You know I know how much that shirt costs, right?
Starting point is 01:35:24 Okay. Thank you. Dexter Jones said, hello. L-O-A-O. Ocho said he's not giving up $5,200 of his hard-earned money so you can take a young tenderoni out. Ocho, what should be a nice budget for Ocho to take a woman out? $200.
Starting point is 01:35:40 $2,200? $200. $200. Listen, anything over $200, that's not the one. That's not the one. I'm telling you, that ain't the one. That ain't the one. I'm telling you now.
Starting point is 01:35:54 Well, let me get the fidget $200. Then I can decide how much I want to spend. Because right now, I can't take nobody out because my money jumped funny. I'll tell you, I'll see you $200. I'll see you $200 and I owe send you $200 and I'll owe you $500. Because I know you want the money because you want to take somebody. So you think you slick. Because this is like the second
Starting point is 01:36:12 or third time you mentioned about taking somebody out and need the money to take somebody out. Nah, we ain't doing that. You ain't getting that $500 to take nobody out. This man going to tell me I can't take somebody out with my money. I'm trying to help you save. I'm sure whoever it is, $200 will be just fine.
Starting point is 01:36:29 If you need more than that to take out, she's not the one. This man just spent almost a million dollars between a car, a house, furniture, and he crying about me taking somebody out with $5,200. Hey, Unc, this is for me to live in and drive. Comfort. You talk about spending money on someone,200. Hey, this is for me to live in and drive comfort. You talk about spending money on someone, investing in something
Starting point is 01:36:49 where you get nothing in return. I'm not going to let you go out. I'm not going to let you go out. That might be the one. That might be the one. The one what? That I take out.
Starting point is 01:37:00 No, she ain't the one. If you got to spend that kind of money, she's definitely not. If you got to spend that kind of money, she's not the one. No, we ain't let one If you gotta spend that kind of money, she's definitely not If you gotta spend that kind of money, she's not the one Nah, we ain't let you go down that path Who said that?
Starting point is 01:37:12 I'm just saying If you need that kind of money to take a woman out You don't need, that ain't that That ain't that Snake James says, I may be country I want my money, 5200 Lakers in five. Hey, A1D said,
Starting point is 01:37:31 Paperboy, Pastor Troy, McElroy. Legos in five. Golf is cool, but listen, you can havearing McElroy Wearing Cutteroy Or eat an Almond Joy Legos and Five
Starting point is 01:37:52 Moe21 said Ant-Man Batman Superman Legos and Five Junior said Ant-Man Aquaman
Starting point is 01:38:04 Batman Superman It don't matter I agree Junior Lakers in five. Junior said Ant-Man, Aquaman, Batman, Superman. It don't matter. I agree. Junior. Lakers in five. Justin, feel free to use these. Go Bear, Welfare, Wayfair.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Lakers in five. Naz Reed, Pumpkin Seeds, not even Game 7, Willis Reed. Lakers in five. Legos at five. Oh my God. JJ McCarver said they act like we scared to see the Warriors up. They could have had Steph, Kansas City Chiefs,
Starting point is 01:38:38 Rebs, or promised to pay up Ocho's debt. Y'all know what it is. Legos at five. Tyron said, what's up, Ocho, can. Y'all know what it is. Lakers at five. Tyron said, what's up, Ocho? Can you see the Boston Celtics repeating as champions? It's hard to see if they play their best. Everybody else plays their best.
Starting point is 01:38:56 Everybody's going to have to play above their best to beat the Celtics in seven games. Now, we're finding out that Jalen Brown is dealing with a knee issue. He's got an injection in that knee. He's rested the last couple of games, so that's going to be very interesting. But if they play to their best, they're almost... In seven games, it's going to be very difficult for somebody
Starting point is 01:39:16 to beat them. Dexter Jones, hold on. Don't call out Jimmy Buckets for one rebound when your GOAT had zero rebounds the other day, cost me a nightcap ticket to New York I tag you, your Ocho did it again
Starting point is 01:39:34 the next game I ain't see that, when our GOAT had zero rebounds you know the man. 40, man. Give him a break. Damn. Dom Notch there. Jokic is by far the most valuable player in the league.
Starting point is 01:39:52 You were stumbling reading off of the accomplishments in season 11 there. As a male fan, I got to say the Lakers fans are for a treat. Playoff Lucas on another level. Oh, no. We know. We've seen it. Slam God said, Uncle Notch, if Philly or the Spurs somehow get the top three pick,
Starting point is 01:40:07 would you add a package to take for Zion? Mm-mm. No? No, I'm good. Damn. Lady been married four times. She cheated on every last one of her husband you gonna marry her i'm gonna let him figure it out over there first let him get a year up on his belt
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Starting point is 01:42:55 appreciate you joining us, guys. Hopefully you guys enjoyed Funny Marco. We're off tomorrow. We're back on Tuesday after the play-in tournament, so no show tomorrow, Ocho. We're off tomorrow. We're back on Tuesday after the play-in tournament. So no show tomorrow, Ocho. We're back tomorrow. I mean, not tomorrow. We're back Tuesday after the play-in tournament.
Starting point is 01:43:12 I'm Hunk. He's Ocho. Thank you guys for joining us. Go ahead. I got that thing in my system, boy. I'm going to holler at you tomorrow. Holler at you tomorrow, guys. Thank you guys for joining.
Starting point is 01:43:24 We'll see you tomorrow. I love y'all. Tuesday. I'm sorry. See you guys for joining. We'll see you tomorrow. I love y'all. Tuesday. I'm sorry. See you Tuesday. Tuesday. Not tomorrow. Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:43:29 Thank you. The Volume. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content,
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