Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Luka’s statement, Mark Cuban breaks silence, Lakers over AD

Episode Date: February 3, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson are joined by 2025 WWE Royal Rumble winner the “Main Event” Jey Uso. Later, Unc and Ocho react to Luka Doncic releasing a statement after being traded to the Los Angeles Lakers for Anthony Davis and Unc believes Luka deserves some of the blame for his exit in Dallas. Later, the guys dive into Mark Cuban breaking his silence on the blockbuster trade and the Lakers were reportedly irked by AD’s comments earlier about needing another big and much more!03:53 - Jey Uso joins the show21:48 - Luka’s statement40:30 - NBA players sound off on Luka trade55:14 - Grammy updates1:01:30 - Q&Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Six-time WWE SmackDown Tag Team Champion winner. And now he's the 2025 Men's Royal Rumble winner, Jey Uso. Jey. Jey. How. Jey! Jey! How you feeling, bro? Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey. Mr. Sharp, man.

Thank you for the introduction, my dog. You deserved it, bro. Yeah. Let me ask you this. What's up, St. Joe? Jey! What up, baby?

You need? Congratulations on your Royal Rumble win last night. Has it set in yet that you're going to be headlining WrestleMania? Can I be honest? Yes. Yes. It's another day at the office.

You know? Because here's what happened. You know? Did work on Saturday. What's the day today? Sunday. That was last night. I feel like it was like three nights ago. It felt like it was three nights ago.

You know what I'm saying? Shane? Yep. Did it last night. You know, hop on the road. Joe, four and a half hours of my baby. You're back here. You know, you know, right there.

You know, you know, I'm in the hotel. Okay. You got an Oculus phone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's charged up, you know, and, you know, you know, right there, you know, you know, I'm in the hotel room. Okay, you got an Oculus phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's charged up, you know, and, you know, I just say stay quiet because, you know, walls is dead. But, you know, if I could be honest, man, if I could be honest, I just on to the next. I got, I'm in Cleveland, Ohio right now. I got a Monday night roll tomorrow. I'm going to just check it off as I go.

You know, check it off as I go. Right now, it feels like another day at the office. I might, you know, once I fly home, my family calm down a little bit, send them to my living room. It might hit you. It might hit me. It might. I say it might, though. What went through your mind when John Cena's feet hit the floor

and you're crowned Royal Rumble winner? Oh, shit. Oh, shit. I said, I'm sitting in the ring and I'm telling you, when I pushed him off, I just watched it.

Oh, shit. Oh, shit. I don't want to roll Rumble. Now you're going to be headlining. Let me ask you a question. Is there anything that Cena said to you that you care to reveal right now? I know this is going to be his last year. He's retiring this year.

If I'm not mistaken, I think Royal Rumble might be his last event. I mean, WrestleMania might be his last event. Excuse me. Yeah, so I think, oh, man. I know he just said that he's going into the Elimination Chamber. And I think I want to say, like, March something. March 1st, maybe. That is his last chance to kind of main like, kind of mean it in WrestleMania.

So, and we're in Toronto, Canada. You know, I hope. Yep. I hope he gets it, man. But I will, you know, say some real shit, man. He came in the ring, and if you watch the back,

he did come in the ring. He came in the ring. He, after, after, I thought, I thought, I thought I was about to damn have to clip him one Had to do it about to do his ass. Oh, here's the hats out one more time. No But he said he said hey man, uh, he hugged me he goes he goes a loose I remember your first tour I Said I always told you and your brother you guys will be fine

be yourself and he goes look at these people now and like that's when he turned me to the crowd and you know they just they just hitting it man so yeah man

love love for John Sr. you know he's a goat man oh yeah definitely hey listen Yeet has become such a huge defining part of your persona obviously it's a signature catch phrase man dude the crowd loves it

I love it how did you come up with Yeet and did you ever expect it to take off the way it has? So, so if you, if you really pay attention, like, man,

me, my brothers, Roman, we've kind of been saying that from, from, from the jump. Right, right.

If you, if you look at like old promos or whatever, like you'll hear him, like, well, you, you know, it's also a whatever, you'll hear them.

It's also a West Coast slang. It's been a slang before geek with the memes. I'm a little older than the little homies are like, oh, that's a meme, a catchphrase where you're yeeting people. It's been a sling. The team wasn't even on there. It used to be yeet, like, yeet, yeet, yeet, yeet, yeet, you know?

Like that. You said a little too hard, though, Mr. Shaw. You got to come back and look, yeah, you done lifted today, I can tell. Man, I didn't expect it to take off, though, like that old joke, man. It just took off.

And I feel like it kind of took off at the press conference. If you watch the press conference, like, you know, if you watch, you know. And then I had Cody saying, yeah, and then it just took off, man. Like, I think that was a turning point. But I never thought it would take off the way it do. I don't know if a whole lot of people know this. Your dad is the famous wrestler, Rikishi. Yes, sir.

I mean, how was it having your dad was a wrestler, so obviously you had to be one of the coolest kids in school? Yeah. Hey, not really. Not really. But look, though, if I could be honest, though, my dad, like Rikishi, really ain't catch off until me and my brothers got in high school.

Okay. So now we in high school. And man, man, hey, hey, Ms. Sharp, hey, Ocho, when I say we was balling, we was balling. Stop. Well, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, what, hey, Ms. Sharp. Hey, Ocho, when I say we was balling, we was balling. Stop. Oh, y'all ball without me. I'm telling you. I'm telling you.

What made us kind of safe, we was known as like the twins. You know, there's twins. But we was good in football. Good looking. Y'all stop playing. But look, though. But look, though. We was balling.

Like, we was putting up numbers and shit. And they're like this. And their daddy's a wrestler. So that's what kind of saved us, like, from, like, separated us from, like, my dad and being, like, this wrestler. Because when he would show up to my house, when he would show up to the games, I knew he was here. Because when we in the field, like, the game would stop.

Because we would look, and there's a crowd moving. It's like a wave. So I knew my dad was here. You can't miss him. You know, big, small dude with blonde hair. Yeah. You know, you know, can't miss him. But I did.

Did you always did you did you always you and your brother know you wanted to go into the family business? No. No, we my mom, my mom and dad didn't want us in the business because we know we know how it was. Like I said, my dad kind of kind of like caught his break when we was in high school, but he's been a wrestler my whole life. So that means like, you know, the travel travel. Yeah. The income wasn't high, though. You're a wrestler, you know. And being like gone for like two months at a time. You know, my mom was a single mom, you know. Never did. It was until, you know, went to college and then you come back in the real world. Like, this ain't fun, you know.

Pops, you know, can we wrestle? Boom. Took us in the ring. Beat us, you know. Beat us up for two hours, man. You know, y'all still want to wrestle? Boom. Oh, took us in the ring, beat us, you know, beat us up for two hours, man. You know, y'all still want to wrestle? Yeah. You know?

But had to drop weight, had to look good, you know? Let me ask you this. When you started your solo journey and you had to realize that, you know what, I'm not going to be performing with my brother anymore, were you conflicted? Because obviously, you know, you want to be be successful you want your brother to be successful and you want to do everything that you possibly can to potentially bring him alone but you're going to have to go this thing alone jay did were you conflicted how did that make you feel oh okay uncomfortable for sure you know and it wasn't even it wasn't even the work part. What got me, though, is I separated from my brother. I'm used to driving these four-hour drives every night after a show.

I'm used to pushing up with my brother on a plane. What time the plane is? Four o'clock, where you at? I'm at the Fridays by gate four. You feel me we'll just move together so I don't have him like that man that was my biggest adjustment man

being on the road yeah if you could go back in time right and give your younger self advice before starting WWE what would you say man man I would say before starting WWE, what would you say? Man. Man,

I would say put me on the spot, right? Nah, you good. Put me on the spot. Nah, man. If you could do it again, what would you tell your younger self? Like,

you have help. It's going to be okay. Like like you have helped it's gonna be okay like you have helped you know i did i thought i thought like i just have to and it's me and my twin at the same time i just thought like we we just had to we got to do it we have to go do it if if we don't do it it's it it's it's everyone's fault it's gonna we we fail like really man you just we was young trying to figure it out and now looking back now it was just a it was just those pros it was a process to get me like to here today you would i would have never thought man i'd i'd be sitting here today talking to you and you. And I just won the Royal Rumble in 2025 last night.

That's crazy. You know? And I'm over here trying to get some buffalo chicken wings for my baby back here. You know? Just, just, just. Yeah. Yeet, man.

You know? How is it happening? It seems that that's your, that's your little, that's your little homie. That's the road dog with you. You got him and you seem so calm. You seem so at peace that you got your son and he gets to experience this with

you. Yes, sir. Like he's been, he's been, but I'm just, I just, I just want to,

man, I just want to be a dad. I just want to spend time with him. Cause like I sacrifice a lot of time like you know we sacrifice time man we can't get it back you know you can sacrifice a lot of things man but time you know i have i would i i have two boys uh well one one goes to um um morehouse college in in atlanta you know, that was up. Come on, man. 18 and 19, so he does his own thing.

Kind of not into wrestling like that. He is, he'll watch, but he's doing his own thing. This one over here, he all in. You know, he want to... He dead, dead, dead. How old do I got to be to wrestle? I'm like 18. Five more years, me, you could be like do I got to be to rest? I'm like 18. Five more years

me, you could be like Ray Mysterio and Don Mysterio, father and son of tag team champions, and he'll just walk off. And I'm like... That's what's up. What's been your favorite celebrity come in the ring? That you've been in the ring, you have a celebrity coming out, you're like, man,

this is pretty cool. This is all right here. I can be honest, little wayne i really like yeah man come on man man i love man come on man we listen to him we listen to him since coming up you know the carter one no no way like you he the carter one come on man uh the The dope part is when I first started wrestling, me and my brother came out to go DJ. Like, that was our walkout song, you know, in the little independent scene. And just to have him, you know, walk me out

at a big WrestleMania on stage and fire. It's like full circle. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I know what it feels like, dude, to have your name called out for me, just to give you perspective. They come out that tunnel, you know,

and they call your name when they announce the offense, and they say, Shannon Sharp, or they say, Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson, and 80,000 people, though, 70,000, 60,000, whatever it may be,

are screaming your name. And the fans have embraced you as the main event Jey Uso. How does that feel, dude, to hear those chants and see the crowd rally behind you? That actually has to be one of the greatest feelings in the world.

Man, I couldn't call Ocho yes man i i i i appreciate that that view you know why because we're the only few that can see it from our eyes right you know because because because the because the rest of the world is looking at us i just told my son, I said, hey, I bought him in the ring after. Man, man. Wow. Hey, hey, yeah. Hey, I said, I mean, I told my son last night, man. I started laughing. I said, hey, man, because he knows what to do.

Like, he has that. He has that. Man, man. I bought him in the ring, and he had the people like this. Like, they was going with him. I wasn't doing that. But but i'm telling him i'm like wait wait wait wait wait wait wait you know in the rain you know i'm like hold on hold on wait for the beat to drop you know now okay go he's got he's got ci he's got 60 000 in his hand

and i was just sitting here like this and he's over there he's over there man but i told him when he's about to go to sleep man i told him man last night i was like man son you did you what is that how'd that make you feel like did you see all those people he's like yeah he's like and they're like like dad like that's a lot of people i'm like they was looking at you though though, you know? Man, it's just a different... I appreciate it, though. Like, I wish my messages to the people. I wish you guys...

I wish everyone could experience that, what we get to experience, man. Yeah, man, because that's kind of why it keeps us lit in the game. Oh, yeah. Jey Uso punched his ticket to WrestleMania main event with his Royal Rumble win last night

Cena declared for the chamber match he needs to win to have a chance at another main event you're not going to want to miss the elimination chamber match in Toronto March 1st the Rogers Center is going to be huge Wrestlemania the big where Jey Uso

is headlining April 19th and 20th at Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas, Nevada. Jey, congratulations on your win last night. Congratulations on the main event, bro. Thank you for joining us at our Unc and Ocho at Nightcap.

I chat with a love you, man. Appreciate it. Continue success. And after you win this uh wrestlemania main event holler back at your boys hey hey hey okay hold show hey yeah for sure for sure but can i like come i want to i want to be like they're like in the same room with y'all next time okay okay that'll work you know you have to you have to catch us on one of the live tours one of the live tours you're gonna have to catch us on one of the lives man. One of the live tours, you're going to have to catch us on one of the lives. Man, I'm in the A, man. I know y'all always come through ATM.

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I thought I'd spend my career here and won it so badly to bring you a championship. The love and support you've given me is more than I could ever dreamed of. For a young kid from Slovenia coming to the U.S. for the first time, you made North Texas feel like home. In good times and bad, from injuries to NBA finals, your support never changed. Thank you for not only sharing my joy, our best moments, but also lifting me up when I needed it most. To all the organizations I've worked with throughout the Dallas community, thank you for letting me contribute to your important work. Join you in bringing light to those who need it. As

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I like it. I like it. He's remaining very, very, very professional. Obviously, you don't have a choice at this point. You know, whatever issues were going on behind the scenes, it had to be egregious. It had to be something so bad for them to trade someone of that magnitude that is that great. They were just in the finals last year.

NBA finals. They were just in the NBA finals last, huh? NBA finals. They were just in the NBA finals last year, huh? What did he average again? If I'm not mistaken, you know the numbers better than I do. Well, he averaged like 34-9-9 in the regular season. Oh, that's crazy work. 34-9-9 in the regular season. You take your team to the NBA finals, the following season, they trade you.

Yeah. And not that you asked, not that you asked to be traded. Ocho, people are dogging Nico. Luca became the first player to lead the playoffs in points, rebounds, assists, and steals last season. That's crazy, man. That's what I kept selling mark hey it might have some hey it's my you know what i don't want to say that because i don't want to be rude it listen and this is what i told jamal and y'all heard it in order for you to trade a player like this yeah in his prime giving his accolades five times he's been a first team

all pro in his first six seasons the behavior the attitude had to be so egregious yeah he said we're done with it there's no getting through to him and i believe what what what jack was saying is that the coaches i believe they've tried. Yeah. I don't believe it's a lack of effort that they've tried, but you've got to want it

as bad as I want it for you. Because if I want something more than you want it for yourself, you're going to win out because it's you. You know what you want. You know what you have to do.

Because guess what? He wanted to be an NBA player. Ain't nobody had to take him to those practices. Ain't nobody had to do what they had to do. Because guess what? He wanted to be an NBA player. Ain't nobody had to take him to those practices. Ain't nobody had to do what they had to do. He did that because that's what he wanted.

If and when Luka wants to get in shape, if and when Luka wants to take his condition serious, if and when Luka want to eat right, that's what he's going to do. That's what he's going to do.

It's just like anything. When a person makes up their mind, they got an addiction just like anything when a person makes up their mind they got a they got an addiction or something when that person makes up their mind see we create our demons only we can chase them away if and when he wants that to be an afterthought right because right now how do you want it to be you want to do you want it to be your story or you want it to be a footnote? Because you get to determine.

Wait a minute. You think you're slick? Hold on now. Hold on. Hold on. I got to use that. I got to use that. I got to use that. I get a prime example. Jokic put up those numbers. But Jokic said I was fat. I was out of shape. So I stopped drinking soda.

I cut back on soda., dropped weight. Now he's a three-time league MVP. Shea is going to cut. Right now, it's him and Shea Gilgis. I would give Shea a slight lead. His team is better. He's putting up phenomenal numbers. But go look at Jokic's numbers. And look at what

he does on a nightly basis. I need you to listen. I know you're not a record player, but I need you to rewind that footnote quote again. That was a good one. You want that to be your story or you want it to be a footnote in your story? Because the thing about Ocho

is it's our career. We get to write it. We got to pee in. You get to write the Ocho story. I get to write the Shannon Sharp story i get to write the shannon sharp story but that was a good one there boy um like i said there i i you know everybody knows how i feel about luca luca my guy i gave him a name baby bird he's like i said i say when lebron leaves he's gonna probably be my favorite player. No question about it. Because my favorite player was Larry Bird.

He's the closest thing for that type of player that I've seen to Bird. And I just, like Jack said, Ocho, he cost himself a, now,

he was eligible to get $345. Now the max he can get is $229. That's real money. You got to think about it, huh? Listen, what can you give a $45 you can't give a 229? I want that. I want that.

I want all that. Ocho, I want all that. Think about it, Ocho. This dude was in line to get 70 million a year yeah and in 5 years Luka would have been 30 he would have been eligible to get 400 another one

that's crazy maybe more that's crazy but this might be a wake up call though I hope so sometimes it takes something like this sometimes it takes something like this i wouldn't say humble you maybe maybe maybe humble might be the right word because we don't know what's going on behind the scenes obviously you're not being

humble if they're willing to trade you at 25 with the type of production you put up this might be a moment and i hope it pisses him off because Because he might get a different Luka. You know, a pissed off Luka might be worse than the Luka that was chilling, drinking beer, you know, playing around. Man, the man had a 60-point. The man had a 60-point, 20-rebound, triple-double. Man, stop playing. The dude is. But see, Pete Ocho, when you're in the profession, I keep telling people.

But they tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Y'all will listen now. People will tolerate you until they can replace you. It can be sports. It can be in a relationship. Treat your significant other like crap and let them run across a person that'll treat them better. You gone. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, let me do, as long as I'm doing my job, that's not the way it works. Now, if you want to be however you want to be, create your own company and you create a dress code, you create coming to work,

doing however you want to be. Yeah. But as long as you punch that clock for somebody else, literally, figuratively, you got to do it. There ain't no other way around it. There ain't no other way around it.

There ain't no other way around it. Y'all get mad all you want to, but I'm just telling you the facts. And people that don't understand that, you have to ask yourself, why don't they understand it? Why don't they get it? 25, five-time first-team All-NBA, and they say, nah, we good.

Normally, guys at that age, when they get traded, they requested a trade. They requested it. He didn't request it. He didn't know anything about it. He didn't request it. He didn't know anything about it. My antenna perked up when Rick Carlisle wouldn't sign an extension. Right. Do you know? Normally coaches get fired.

Doug Collins got fired. I'm trying to think, who was his first coach? Who was Doug Collins' first? Was it Raftery? Who was Michael Jordan's first coach? But normally, if you get a guy like that, you don't not sign an extension. Right. You don't resign sign an extension you don't resign

they fire you because you're not getting the job done you don't walk away because you know how hard it is to get a guy like that right Kevin who? Larry the writing must have been on the wall Mr. Carlisle saw it

you know and he didn't want to deal with it. I mean, as a coach, how does that really affect you if you have a player? What he's doing on the court? How could you still not want to be there because of that? It's it's uh that's on look i i hope he gets it i hope he figures it out ocho yeah because the talent is there there's no undenying it yeah but ocho i mean it because here's the thing ocho if you exhibit this and you making 35 million

what you gonna do when I give you 70 you know what happens when you give me you give somebody more money you know what happens and so they just like

I'm surprised they didn't but I think the thing is nico like he had a relationship with rob palenka uh as you heard uh i think that was uh either jack or jamal said rob palenka was kobe's agent nico call nico harrison used to work for nike so there's a relationship this didn't get out see if you open it up to other teams, Ocho, it's going to get out. The reports are Luka is being shot. Reports are AD is being shot. You see, now,

you know what, Ocho? I'm glad this happened like this. Now y'all see when they start reporting stuff, they ain't making it up. So y'all quick-nosed media made it up. You see how it didn't get out? Because ain't nobody wanted it out. Yeah, but you know why it didn't get out?

Because there were only two teams involved. The Dallas Mavericks and the Los Angeles Lakers. And nobody wanted it out. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Because I guarantee you, they kept it between two people, Mr. Nico and Palenka. I bet nobody else knew about it.

No, it's reported that, that Mark Cuban didn't know about it. It's reported that, Jason Kidd didn't know about it. Anthony Davis didn't know about it. Richard Paul didn't know about it. LeBron didn't know about it.

That's why it didn't get out because they kept it between two people. The two people that had the power to get the job done. It's kind of a blessing because he's like, you know what? We want to move him, but hey, at least move him to LA. Because everybody's opening up their coffers. Everybody opening up. What you want?

Give us AD and a first round pick and Max Christie. That's it. Okay. Okay. Bet. Bet. Bet.

But hopefully Luka gets his condition, gets heating eating habits under control takes it a little bit more serious look ocho he ain't never gonna be able to sit down on the chair he ain't gonna be colby he ain't gonna be jordan he ain't gonna be lebron or kawai right in their pride that's not what he is but he's great at what he does but you can't ocho you can't just open the door and let the man come in the house and then talk about, hey, man, he robbed

our house. Y'all should have locked the door. Bro, that's your guy. Right. That's your guy. But hopefully he figures this out, Ocho. Ocho, people are dogging Nico Harrison for comments he made earlier. Let's take a listen. And I'd like to give

Rob Palenka a lot of credit. You know, trades, you guys have been around here. Trades don't happen at the smallest level without stuff getting out. And Rob and I were able to have, you know, really intense conversations over the course of, you know, three or four weeks that started out as a coffee that, you know, was more, hey, would you ever, I don't know, would I, let me think of, you know, and then it, it, it built upon that, and, you know, we, we kept it between us, we had to, we had to keep it tight, J. Kidd didn't know about it, but J. Kidd and I are aligned, and we talk about archetypes, and we talk about the culture that we want to create, so I know the type of

players that, that he likes without actually talking to him, hey, would you like, you create. So I know the type of players that, that, um, he likes without actually talking to him. Hey, would you like, you know, so I know that and, and Jake had coached them when they won a championship. So, so I think when you're aligned with your coach like that,

I know the type of players that he likes. Um, and so I, I felt good about it, it making sense to where we're trying to go. How does it? Oh, Joe, it makes sense. The mere fact that you was like, It making sense to where we're trying to go. How does it? Ocho. It makes sense.

The mere fact that you're just like, hey, man, would you, Ocho, if it ever comes up, man, would you cheat on your wife? Would you cheat on your girl? No, I was just playing. I was just playing. You already put that thought out there?

Yeah, yeah. You thought about it? Mm-hmm. You thinking about it, Ocho? Right. The mere fact. Hey, would you, thought about it. Mm-hmm. You thinking about it, don't you? Right. The mere fact. Hey, you train Luka? I don't know.

What? Nah, nah, man. I wouldn't train no Luka, man. Stop, stop. Yeah. Uh-uh. Hey, kid, like, don't speak for me.

Hey. He had nothing to do with it. Kid, like, I don't care. I don't speak for me hey he had nothing to do with kids like i don't care i don't care if he 300 all i know is he gave me he gave me 30 plus nine and eight every night oh that's crazy man but but here's the thing that's how it doesn't get out oh cho normally two people can keep a secret but one normally has to be dead. Yeah. Because the more people you tell, and then there's a chain that you don't know where the breach came in at. Because you done told so many people. People, yeah. Ocho, you know every last story in school?

You tell somebody at the front row, and by the time we get to the last person, it ain't nothing like that. Nothing like the first year. I remember that. The same thing. Too many people know, it's gonna get out. Yep. Oh yeah.

Mavs fan held a funeral for Luka outside the stadium. Oh, Lord, you'll check this out. This is a real quote from Mark Cuban. If I had to choose between my wife and keeping Luca on the maps, catch me at my lawyer's office prepping for divorce. Listen, I only that understands.

I only that understands. Oh, that's the funeral that was funny oh they serious with it yeah Ocho them guys he had on the suit you saw that Ocho players like that don't come alone. He had on the suit. You saw that? Ocho, players like that don't come alone.

Yeah. Guys like that, listen, guys don't come alone. I mean, they've had, Dirk Nowitzki is an MVP and a finals MVP. He's not better than Luka. Guys like that don't just spry up on trees. And you know, sometimes you get fortunate,

don't you? And you'll get, you know, you get the number one draft pick and you'll get David Robinson. Right. And then, you know, 12, 13 years later, you'll get a Tim Duncan.

And then 12, 13, 15 years later, 20 years later, you'll get a Wimby. But don't you know, guys like this don't grow on trees. They don't come along, but every so often, Cleveland's not going to get another LeBron James.

I could have, could you imagine Cleveland trading LeBron at 25? Could you imagine that? The internet would have crashed. Good God almighty. The internet would have crashed. Oh, God almighty. The internet would have crashed. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles,

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Every other team might get the confidence to say, F it. I'll trade a few of my top players if this isn't working. I'm still shocked. That's crazy.

Unbelievable. Or trade the 25-year-old Kevin Durant. Hell no. I mean, you think about it. Yeah. Shaq left.

Shaq was younger than 20 when he left Orlando. But Shaq left. They didn't trade him. All right. I mean, I can't. And when the Lakers traded Shaq, Coach, Mr. Buss, the owner, thought Shaq, the salary, the weight concern, the conditioning was an issue. Right.

Die. SGA on Luka being traded. I learned that lesson the hard way my first year in the NBA. I got traded out of the blue. Didn't see it coming. It doesn't surprise me anymore that myself getting traded a long time ago, I found out it's a business. My first season.

Woo! The Clippers kicking themselves in the butt. Because they traded Paul, they traded him and all those draft picks for Paul George. Right. It ain't worked out. Paul George is in Philly. Kawhi can't stay healthy.

And SGA is on pace to be. How old is SGA? 25? He's on pace to be the MVP. They got the best team in the Western Conference. I thought it was 25. Shea is 26. Oh, 26.

Okay. Ocho? Yeah. It's being reported the Lakers were reportedly irked by AD's comment earlier about another big. Lakers reportedly felt AD could never be counted on as a top option and weren't going to offer AD an extension this season. The man ain't say go get Yolk. The man say just get him a big. Just get him somebody that he can slide down to the four.

Now, come late in the ballgame, I'll play the five. Bron will play the four. Damn! If you go back and look when they won the championship, he played the four. Because normally it was either JaVale at the five or Dwight Howard at the five. AD played the four.

And that was the year they did a number. Basically, JaVale had it for like six or seven minutes. Dwight had to get it for six or seven minutes. AD get it for two or three minutes. LeBron, you take it for a minute. We just kept throwing a lot of different looks at it. Lakers felt AD could never be counted on as a top option. It's hard to be a top option.

What top option if LeBron's on your team? If you go play with Nikola Jokic, who's going to be the top option what top option if lebron's on your team if you go play with nicola yogic who's gonna be the top option yo you go play with y'all let me ask you a question dave was a top option in portland for all those years he's not the top option playing with yannis yeah come on people come onakers. Y'all know that. And they weren't going to offer AD an extension. I thought they just gave him an extension. I thought he just signed a two-year extension. He could sign another longer term after this year?

I mean, AD, the last couple of years, AD has played a lot of games. You'll get one in Dallas? After next year. I don't believe that. So, let me guess. LeBron leaves, because there's a great chance LeBron leaves. Let's just say for the sake

of argument, LeBron plays this year 22, plays next year 23. LeBron leaves. You mean to tell me you was going to let Anthony Davis walk? I find that very hard to believe. The Lakers are about superstars. And I'm not saying AD is LeBron, Shaq, Wilt, Kareem. He's not that.

Right. But who you going to get? Who? Jason Tatum? I don't think Boston parted away with him. Nikola Jokic? No. Denver Damschel not parted with him.

Yeah. Jay? First of all, why would Shane lead and give up that five-year extension? Shane's about to be eligible for a Supermax.

So he can get 345. I think Shane, when's Shane's up? Next year? Shane can go back next year? four years almost 300 okay i'm not going i'm not gonna let y'all i'm not gonna let y'all let to let y'all. I'm not going to let y'all get me out my bread. So I'm just trying to figure out who can they get. Because, look, there are only a handful, first of all.

LeBron's and the Kobe's. Yeah, these are great players. Right. But when we talk about that, you pay a top dollar to go see everywhere they go. Ain't been a handful of those. Yeah, it's always that. Steph Curry, LeBron, Jordan, Kobe in the modern era. Yeah, I'm saying anything since like 90, let's go say like mid-90s.

Mm-hmm. Everywhere you go, home or road, no matter what the arena is, the team might be 2-50, but they're going to come out to see LeBron, see Steph, see Jordan, see Kobe. There's only a handful of guys. Luka has that.

Luka has that. And the Lakers now have it for the foreseeable future. Now, Lakers got power. Because now, they're like, nah, you know what, Bron, we love

you, we appreciate you coming here, but we take our orders from him. Because at max, you'll be here two years. We're hoping he'll be here for a decade. I can't wait to see how it play out on court. Yeah. on court. Yeah. On court. And in quiet escape, I still like the idea of Kyrie opting out in the summer,

which he has an opportunity to do, and he might bring his ass over to L.A. next year. I'll give you a prime example. A.I. What did they do to A.I.? Tell the people at home what they do to AI oh they traded him didn't they traded yeah

got him up out of there got him right up out of there they tolerate you until they get what what did Jack see I had never heard anybody say that what jack said yeah never accept anything in the wind you wouldn't have lost y'all will listen to me chat y'all get mad at me he think he know everything no i don't know

everything just a tad tad bit about everything. But I'm just telling you, been in locker rooms, been around a lot of people and won some games. Culture is very important. Very important. Everybody that's won something will tell you that it's important.

People that have it say it doesn't matter. Ask Google. Yeah. Ask Google. Ask Microsoft. Ask Apple. Ask NVIDIA. Salesforce. Oracle.

Ask them. Is culture important? Meta. Berkshire Hathaway Exxon that's what's called important they get bad on Joe hey they don't you have to understand

you're looking at it from a different lens as opposed to everybody else everybody's not looking at it from your viewpoint everybody's not looking at it from your lens and the perspective

in which you know and understand how things work is different it is because I think the thing is like to be successful um

most successful people are highly highly highly motivated mm-hmm highly motivated don't need any outside help to be motivated nope

nope I gotta beg you to eat right I gotta beg you to get conditioned I gotta beg you to show up on time. I told you I'm paying you 50 million. Mm-hmm. And it's just not, look, we're using professional,

there are people out there making 100,000, 200,000, 300,000. Right. Bro, show up on time. Oh, that job will be there when I'm dead and gone. And you're going to be out of it while you're alive.

I just don't get it sometimes. But you understand why people are successful. Yeah. No matter what they do, they're successful. Yeah. Because it's a commitment. It's a singular focus to be great. And what does that look like?

What does that take? Everybody talks about, oh, everybody don't want to be great. A lot of people want to talk about being great. And I'm not saying be great so you can own a business. Everybody is not meant to own a business. Right. They're not. And there are varying levels,

degrees of success. Right. But there are certain things, there are certain foundational pieces that go hand in hand with success. And I don't believe you can skip the process. You can't. Or skip the steps in order to enjoy that level of success. You can't.

I just don't believe you can. I mean, look, I disagree with the Lakers. I think AD was playing phenomenal. He's played phenomenal every year except the year he's been hurt. It's not easy being a first option to LeBron because LeBron is still...

Look at LeBron. Look what he did last night. A 33-point triple-double. He was the best player on the court. And the other team had two all-stars, Cat and Jalen Brunson. And nobody that's in that arena, nobody that watched that game

can leave that game saying, LeBron James wasn't the best player on the court. He's 40. But I just saw AD the other night before he tweaked that abdominal muscle, go get me 43 and 20. I saw that.

Was it 43 and 20? Was it 40 and 20 or 36 and 23? What a nasty bird. Yes. And that's... Oh, he could... I mean, there ain't a whole

lot of guys like ad he had 42 points 23 rebounds ocho and what two blocks i think there's a whole lot of guys that can play that side of the ball offensively give you those numbers he's 26 and 12 and play defense defend the pick and roll, can defend one through five, can help weak side, block shots, rebound, assist, and a whole lot of guys.

There ain't three. First of all, the only guy that's comparable to him is Giannis. But Giannis can't defend. I still don't believe Giannis can defend like ADK. Right, No. Boys, man. That's crazy.

Just still thinking about that. They trade a young bull away like that. That good. But guess what? They try to take some of the power back. Y'all don some of the power back y'all don't want to play y'all don't want to do this and we don't do hey hey i'm oh sure i'm telling you with that you try you talk about they trying to take some of the power back listen you playing nf

nb when you play nba players that kind of money the kind of money they make it's gonna be it's still fuck you money no matter what. You telling me I can't get $345,000, but I can still get $289,000 or $229,000 or whatever it may be, that's still fuck you money. They will never be able to reel in boys back in. Ever. Not until they

don't have... It's hard to reel in when you got guaranteed money. I tell you, kids, my butt. Yeah. Wow. Beyonce, Cowboy Carter's winning Best Country Album. Grammys.

Oh, you see what's coming up? Ash was upset. Ocho, we have some Grammyys. Oh, you see, it was coming up. Ash was upset. Ocho, we have some Grammy upset. Oh, Grammy upset. Grammy update. Kanye West and Bianca Sincere. Sincere? I saw that.

Sensory. Were not kicked out of the Grammys despite early reports. Ah. As nominee Kanye walked the red carpet and posed with Bianca. The two then got into their car

and left. But they turned heads with their rival with Bianca. The two then got into their car and left, but they turned heads with their rival, with Bianca leaving little to the imagination by going completely naked underneath a sheer mini-dress. I mean, it's Kanye. I mean, this is

expected. It's expected. what does he do? how do I make a splash? how do I take advantage of this moment? you Kanye! it's the Grammys what do I do? I use my muse

to make my statement and she made a statement I mean it's we've all seen ass and tizzy before, you know. Yeah, but I ain't really

trying to see it out in public. Not an event like that, Ocho. That's the whole point where I just said he could make the statement. How do you make the statement

and grab the attention? How do you grab the headlines? You do exactly what they did. And it worked. She got some nice... Never mind. Nah, she don't. I don't want to get in trouble.

Kendrick Lamar won Grammy for Record of the Year and then later won another Grammy for Song of the Year, Not Like Us, accepting an award from Diana Ross. This is what it's about, man, because at the end of the day, nothing is more powerful than rap music. I don't care what it is. We're our culture, and it's always going to

stay here and live forever. That's life. Beyonce won Grammy for Album of the Year for Cowboy Carter. Hold on. This is her first album of the year, isn't it? I think it is. Because normally Taylor Swift, I think, has won four.

Has beaten her out a couple of times. I think she's got all these Grammys, but I think Cowboy Carter is her first album of the year. Hold on. How she win Grammy for album of the year and she ain't get no country music award? That's some bull, John. Ocho. How, Ocho, how how am I the MVP of the league

and I don't make the Pro Bowl? I don't know. But I know one thing. You need to save your money up because we going on tour. Tour for what? Beyonce. Man, please. What you talking about? She announced on tour. Tour for what? Beyonce. Man, please.

What you talking about? She announced her tour. Yeah, I know she did. Oh, listen. I'm going to call. I'm going to make the call. We're going to fly where she is, and we're going to sit down,

and we're going to talk to B. Yeah. What happened? Nightcap. yeah what happened nightcap featuring Beyonce Beyonce yeah I got you she won

so she won Grammy of album of the year for Cowboy Carter she won country album too right Grammy of album of the year for cowboy Carter. Did she win anything? She won country album too, right? Yeah. Yeah. Country album of the year.

Well, congratulations, Beyonce. Uh, look, she's the most, if I'm not mistaken, I think she's the most decorated,

uh, uh, uh, singer, uh, in Grammy history. she's the most, if I'm not mistaken, I think she's the most decorated singer in Grammy history. I don't think anybody has more than she does. And she finally has an album of the year, if I'm not mistaken. Right.

Album of the year. Right. Okay. I like that. Congrats, Beyonce. Well done. Alicia Keys says, DEI is not a threat. It's a gift and powerful speech.

She was presented with the Dr. Dre Global Impact Award at the 2025 Grammys. Queen Latifah presented Alicia with the honor calling her a global force. In her acceptance speech, she gave a shout out to female musicians like Missy Elliott, Linda Perry, and more saying, I always had to fight for a certain level of respect as a songwriter, composer, and especially a producer. It's strange that we think women as producers like Quincy.

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authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek

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that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets.

Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.

The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Ocho. Now it's time for our last segment of the evening. Q&A. I got goddamn chips.

Funny you too, man. Ah, Johnny Eggford said, Pensacola, Florida, stand up. Shout out to Nightcap and the Fatu family. I guess that's a, yeah. Thank you, Johnny, for tuning in, supporting the homie. Appreciate that.

Raekwon Howard, hey, Uncle Nocho, love the show, keep up the success. Just got my wisdom teeth removed two days ago. May I get a birthday shout out it's on the 23rd absolutely uh thank you for your support rayquan i greatly appreciate that you're supporting the show um heal up take your time man you don't want to get them things infected boy you don't want them thing what do they call that dry something dry socket something. Dry Socket. Hey, Raekwon, listen to what that Dennis say, bro. That ain't nothing to be played with.

So, well, we thank you for the support. Robert Gomez, congrats on all the success. Thank you for my birthday. Shout out my wife and I had lobster for dinner. Hey! Hey!

What y'all looking forward to this year? Success. Ocho and I just want to build on And I had lobster for dinner. Hey. Got that wig in. What y'all looking forward to this year? Success. Ocho and I just want to build on what we've created since 23. We want to try to just get better and better each tour, each show, try to get better and better. Me, Nightcap, we got some awards. Ocho, I really got my BET award.

Hey. where mine at this is for Club Shae Shae okay we nominated for the NAACP image award so I'm not part of Club Shae Shae yeah you're a big supporter of Club Shae Shae

yeah man hopefully we can get a uh what a naacp man we get the naacp image award ocho hey i got a question what if we get that in the naacp award do we get to go to like um we get to go somewhere where they can present it to us present it yeah okay because i i already got my suit ready. I got my tux ready. Yeah. You won't be able to hit me in the ass with a red apple. We win that.

Hey, there's a good chance. The good Lord has favor now. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Jeremy Scott said, I remember last year when the Mavs GM annoyingly taking a beer from Luca

doesn't seem so funny now yeah it doesn't it's unfortunate very I hope it all works uh a Dab Smith said

I don't care if Lucas was 300 pounds you don't trade generational player that took a team to the finals just last year. If the Pelicans can still keep Zion

after the problems he caused, you damn sure can keep Lucas. Well, it's coming. I mean, if they can get a deal for, look, I thought they probably could have extracted more. AD, the 30, 20, 31st, 20, 31, first round pick. They probably could have got some pick swaps. Right.

But hey. But Zion isn't in line to get $345 million. Because you're going to have to make a decision, Ocho. Yeah. You're going to have to make a decision this summer. Listen, wait, wait, wait. Time out. Before you even finish.

The decision would be easy to make based on what I've gotten in the past. So I'm going to just say that. It's easy to make. I ain't doing it. I ain't doing it. Why would I? I let somebody else take that on. Mm-hmm.

That's what they did. How many times have you seen receivers? We know it. Florida guy, A.B., six consecutive 100-catch seasons. Six. Might not ever be done again, Ocho. He did it.

Yeah. Steelers said no. Think about the pace T.O. was on. Mm. Real deal. Yes! Real deal Yes They will tolerate you Listen Yeah

They will tolerate you Until they can replace you They're not gonna let you Hold their franchise hostage They're not gonna let a player Hold them hostage Ocho Yeah Even if it be

Hey they're not No matter who y'all They're not going to let a player hold them hostage, Ocho. Yes. Even if it be, hey, they're not. Doesn't matter who y'all. Victor Castro, love the show, y'all. Will Anthony Davis fit with the math? Yeah. Kyrie, pick and roll, pick and pop. He got Lively to play the five.

He can have Gaffer play the five. He can slide to the four. And then late in the ballgames, if he needs to, he can go to the five. Because he's the guy, you know, likely Lively, I say Lively, is not the greatest free-throw shooter. Gafford AD is like 80-something percent.

So then he goes to the last five minutes of the game, he can slide back to the five. But absolutely, absolutely. They got a couple of spotters. They got a clay that can spot up a shoot. Not today, notwithstanding. They gave up 91 first-half points to the Cavaliers. The most in the half since the play-by-play started in 96-97.

I think the Phoenix Suns scored the most in the half. They scored 107. Yeah. 90 and a half is crazy work. Scored 50 in the first quarter, 41 in the second. Crazy work. The same Luka with these problems ran through the West on one leg

while the Sixers' big up Bill Embiid hasn't sniffed the finals and still with the Sixers' big up Bill Embiid has a sniff at finals and still with the Sixers. Bro, you can't compare something to the Thief of Joy. The way one person, it's like one family. Man, they let their kids go out and come in whenever

they want to. Your mom and dad didn't do that. You can't say because they did that over there, I should be able to do that to them. Here. That ain't the way it works. No. I don't want that. They might have to pay Luca $350 million.

And they said, we don't believe. It's only going to get worse. Yeah. I don't know why people don't understand. I love Luca. Luca is phenomenal. Anybody that's tracked me since I was on Undisputed know what I think of Luka.

But I had these concerns. I said it. Y'all gotta stop saying because, oh, look what the Pelicans do with Zion. Look what the Sixers do with Joel Embiid. That's not the Mavs.

And Luka's salary was about to be Joel Embiid. That's not the Mavs. And Lucas Valerie was about to be Joel Embiid and Zion combined. Oh, that's crazy. Them boys be making that money. They make that feta, you hear me? That's good money.

The team majors said, did Lucas pull it hard to get to a bigger market? that's good money did T Majors T Majors said did Luka pull it hard to get to a bigger market yeah I might have pulled that if I got that 345 I damn sure ain't gonna pull it before no

oh no mm-mm nope not me Ocho I'm gonna get all by bread I got you you me

Isaiah Lancaster Ocho went healthy who's better running back run CM run Christian McCaffrey

or Saquon I think CMC because he's a three down back also I think the Lakers should get Miles Turner what do you think who you like Ocho

Saquon or Seabank that's Ocho? Saquon or Seamak? Ooh, that's a good one. Saquon. Seamak is in the conversation. But Saquon. I'm going to take Saquon just for the ability to stay healthy. Seamak just missed too much time, Ocho.

Missed too much time. When he's on the field, he's sensational. Yeah. He was Offensive Player of the year just last year. Can run the ball, get you 1,300, 1,400 yards. Can catch another 80, 90 balls out of the backfield. Sensational. Just can't stay healthy.

Black Fabio. LeBron left the keys on the table for AD to take them, but for some reason, AD kept bringing the keys back to keys as if he forgot, if LeBron forgot them on accident. What you think, Ocho? LeBron said it himself, huh?

Before the season started. I'm giving the key, I'm turning the keys over to AD, you know? I thought AD played well. He was playing well. I thought he played well. I thought he played well. Every year playing well. I thought he played well.

Every year he's been there, with the exception of the season that he's got hurt. And he's done a better job of being available, of being accountable, being there. And obviously it's not enough. And from Rogers, Lou, Uncle Ocho, what butter products really work? What products? I got to get Ocho. What butter products really work? What products? I got to get Ocho some. Let him see. You see how this old?

What kind of products? This right here. What's that? Products for my face. Oh, okay, okay, okay. You know, I use... Oh, you put some on your head, though. No, I use fair and white black soap.

That's why I look so young. Well, that black washing off on you. Hunter said, LeBron to the Warriors. The Lakers are moving on from LeBron era and going international

with it. Hunter, LeBron has a no trade. How'd that work? He can void it though I don't think LeBron didn't come here to go somewhere else LeBron done signed two contracts

Extension with the Lakers What that mean huh? He chose to come back Okay Because when you're a free agent you do realize You have the option to leave you know how free agents work right I understand what you're a free agent, you do realize you have the option to leave. You know how free agents work, right? I understand what you're talking about,

but we've seen strange things happen. We've seen... Lamar ain't going to... All right. Kirby Asian Doll, happy Tet, Vietnamese New Year, Nightcap Fam. May you all be blessed with good health

and happiness always. Thank you, Kirby Asian Doll. Thank you, Kirby Asian, Curvy Asian Doll. Thank you, Curvy Asian Doll. Curvy Asian Doll. Ash loves Vietnamese food. Let me take that back. Ash loves all food. There's nothing Ash doesn't love. Vietnamese

Thai. Oh yeah, she don't eat. I ain't got to worry about nothing. She ain't got to eat nothing in my Tupperware. It'll still be there. But oh, I like Thai food. eat. Yeah, I ain't got to worry about nothing. She ain't got to eat nothing in my Tupperware. It'll still be there. But, oh, I like Thai food. I like Vietnamese. I like sushi. I like, hey, just say what.

Yeah, nothing. Absolutely nothing. Frank Tank 921, I watched the Lil Yachty interview today. It was great. He did give his blessing for you to date his mom on the low. She's a stepper, Unc. Man, I ain't listening to Yachty. Somebody told me Yachty was trying to tell Unc in the most respectful way.

He needed to date somebody his age. And I told Yachty in the most respectful way, I ain't listening to it. So we both were very respectful. No, but I love, I love having that interview with Yachty. He was great. That was a good one.

What's up Uncle Ocho? Ocho, do you have any recommendations of restaurants or things to do in downtown Miami? I'll be on vacation in that area soon. Listen, if you're going to be on vacation area soon, make sure you hit me up and let me know I'm there. For one, right, if you happen to go there and I'm not there,

I need you to do me a favor. I want you to write down two things real quick. I don't know if you have a pen or a pad anywhere near you, but take your phone and put this in your notes. You got to try Smith & Webster. Excuse me. You have to try Smith & Webster. It's in Coral Springs.

Smith & Webster. Matter of fact, when you get there, tell them Ocho sent you. Is it a steakhouse? No, no. It's in Coral Springs. Smith and Webster. Matter of fact, when you get there, tell them Ocho sent you. Is it a steakhouse? No, no. It's nice cuisine. Cave on Webster's spot, right? Then, after you try Smith and Webster, I need you to try I Crave. It's another

nice soul food spot. It's in the inner city where I grew up, okay? Matter of fact, when you get there, tell them Ocho sent you. Now, when you use my name, right, you're not going to have to pay. It's on me. Now, the third place I want you to try is Tootsie's. Now, it's a family-oriented environment. You and your girl, you and your wife, whoever it may be, you go there, enjoy yourself, make sure you go upstairs. Now, when you get to the door, make sure you say, Ojo sent you so you can get the VIP treatment to go upstairs, get a shoulder rub, get some food.

Me, personally, I like the seafood rice and lobster tail with a chocolate cake. Coke, no ice, and they can make a latte too. They have cigars as well. Breezy McKaylee, hey, Ganocho, would you wish my fiance, Elijah,

happy birthday, please? And please also pray for us. We lost our five-month-old daughter suddenly. He passed on 114. Keep grinding. Brief. First of all,

we want to send our thoughts and prayers out to you. Our deepest condolences to you and your family. I know that's tough. That's really, really tough, but we appreciate you tuning in and watching Uncle Ocho. We greatly appreciate that. And Elijah,

happy birthday. You got a strong lady in your life. This is the right one for you. Because even though she's going through what she's going through, she thought enough of you to want to shout you out. So, Brees, thank you. Elijah,

happy birthday. And again, sorry for your loss. J. Cole Jordan, when it's all said and done, people are going to realize, appreciate the podcast like Nightcap was made. Uncle Ocho, you tour amazing. Appreciate you, bro. Thank you for your support.

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