Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 2: Malik Nabers TEARS ACL + Met Life TURF NEEDS TO GO + MVP Shaun Alexander's Top BAMA RBs & having 14 KIDS

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react Malik Nabers tears his ACL joining a growing list of players injured at MetLife stadium, Shaun Alexander joins the show to talk about hi...s 14 kids and post career life, and John Harbaugh wouldn’t comment on Lamar Jackson injury and much more! 0:00 - Malik Nabers tore ACL11:28 - Shaun Alexander joins the show45:03 - John Harbaugh wouldn't comment on Lamar Jackson47:10 - Micah Parsons on Jerry Jones49:00 - Q & Ayyyyy  (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:51 Oh, Ch'all, Malik Neighbors. Towards ACL on Sunday at MetLife Stadium, ending this season, joining a growing list of players who've suffered major ACL in a kid. Achilles injuries in that stadium. Nick Bosa in 2020, Solomon Thomas in 2020, DeBriot Preppers in 2021,
Starting point is 00:03:06 Wondell Robinson in 2022, Sterling Shepard in 2022, Kyle Fuller in 2022, Aaron Rogers in 23, Malik Neighbors in 2025. This morning, NFLPA interim executive director, David White, met with the Giants and raised concerns with the playing
Starting point is 00:03:22 surface per Jonathan Jones. David White pre-planned visit to Giants today, according to the union sources while he met with giant players and John Marr and raised the issues surrounding MetLife Stadium's turf history. White also shared the union's best interest, best wishes, tomorrow with his recent cancer diagnosis announcement. More than 90% of the players have expressed a preference for natural grass than surveys and have continued to ask for in light of stadiums installing grass for FIFA next year. Ocho. Now you see what, Ocho, you see, what, Ocho? What are they putting in all these stadiums that the World Cup is coming to?
Starting point is 00:04:01 What do they put in there? Tell the people home. Listen, you know, especially an event of this magnitude, soccer is only played once you cross out of the States, it's only played on grass. Not just any grass. I'm talking about that beautiful, beautiful. Bermuda?
Starting point is 00:04:18 Bermuda. That may be looking like Augusta National, huh? Unbelievable. Unbelievable. So I understand the players gripes obviously about the turf, about the grass. I mean, they prefer and they much rather be playing on grass. I think for cold weather cities that don't have an enclosure. Yeah, it's hard.
Starting point is 00:04:40 It's hard. It's hard. Now, that would be, that would be an issue. So I remember when playing the Steelers having a messed up feel for them. Oh, yeah. November, late December, it was an advantage. It was advantage of them having a bad feel. I mean, if, if, and plus the thing is, you know, the biggest problem.
Starting point is 00:05:01 What? NFL games aren't the only thing that's played in that stadium. Tell you grass up. You have college games, you have concerts, so when Beyonce comes, or you have motorcross, and you have all these other things that's played in there. You need something that can stand up because it's hard to pay for a stadium when you just use it after year. Yeah. So that stadium is getting used.
Starting point is 00:05:25 the year round, especially obviously, you know, New York, you can't have me there probably not have an outdoor events. But let's just say for the sake of argument, like Jerry's world. See, Jerry figured it out. Guess what they have there, Ocho? Everything. College football playoffs.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Boxing. He's trying to get the Oklahoma, Texas, the Red River rivalry. He's trying to get that there. National Championship games are being played. They're doing other things. They're having concerts. They're having boxing events. They're having other things.
Starting point is 00:05:55 so that's how you make money by having these venues and it gets hard real grass is hard to care for oh yeah absolutely it's really hard to care for i mean it is literally i mean we used to have a real grass in and in mile high with some synthetic sewn in but man ross was on it i'm talking about as a matter of fact he used to work at the broncos facility they took him and he especially now he's in charge of that down there he don't do the bronco stuff man they cutting that grass every day they measured the temperature how much water okay we gave it too a they cut the sprinklers on ocho for 10 minutes as opposed to 15 they cut it we cut it too low it might burn oh man there's a science to that stuff yeah yeah but you know look at at the end of the day I think they'll sit down I think they'll come to a some kind of resolution there's like okay what is in the best interest because because we're hurting the product. Guys are getting injured.
Starting point is 00:06:59 You're going to have to convince. You're going to have to be able to show them because, you know, the NFL will have their doctors and say, see, there isn't a rise. Oh, Joe, I'm trying to, I'm trying to, if you're trying to save money, I ain't trying to install grass and then have to install it every three weeks. Basically is what you're going to have to do.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Because, you know, I think Houston and the Cardinals have that roll out grass. You know what I'm saying? Don't show they roll them pallets out. And then when it's up, They roll them, roll them back up. Yep. So it's going to be interesting to see what, what, uh, uh, what comes, what comes of this.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I don't know what's going to come of this, but it just goes to show you that there is some concern, uh, from the PA's standpoint, because these are some of some big names, though, so these ain't just, you know, willy-neilly players. Right. And, uh, we'll see. Like you said, I, I, I just believe that, uh, the owners, like, Like, man, look here. For the World Cup to put us, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:01 and the influx of money that's going to be brought into the community. Honomy? Hey, um, you understand how big? Yeah, I do. Why you think everybody in America, everybody in their mama tried to bid on it? Hell, I think Atlanta got, I think Atlanta got something going on there, but the Mercedes Mercedes-Benz-don. Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Miami, L.A., Mexico, Kansas City. Canada, Canada City. God, dog. Somewhere, it's a few more. It's a few more. I'm going to be, I'm going to be it all of them. I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:08:42 You go, you go ahead? Remember, I work with Fox? Yeah. I was out there for a whole month. So I'm doing the same thing again. I'm excited. I can't wait. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:09:02 You can't wait for what? So what do you think? You think they're going to switch the turf or they're going to leave it as is? Probably leave it as is, because it's too much work. There's too much work on their end, and it's the kind of work that's going to cost more.
Starting point is 00:09:20 They're trying to cut costs. Yeah, my point exactly. it's going to be interesting to see how this thing plays out because like I said, look, they're studying it now. I don't know how much they studied when every, I mean, because they're before this field turf, Ocho, you either had natural grass or you had artificial turf. There was no field turf and then they like this field turf. Okay, this field turf is more doable. You don't have to care for it like you do regular grass. It's durable so you can play most.
Starting point is 00:09:55 events on it, you can have multiple things on it, concerts, so you can have a concert, you can have a concert on Saturday night, and the thing will be, on Friday night, and it'll be ready on Sunday. You know, you know what I liked about the turf, though? With that. Like that, it didn't matter if it was raining. It didn't matter if it was cold. It didn't matter if it was hot.
Starting point is 00:10:16 It didn't matter if there was snow on the ground. I was still able to run full speed and stock on the time because it's not given. It's not going to where. And I could feel, I could feel every step. I like that. Not that I have anything, there's nothing wrong with grass. But I just like the fact that is obviously the shoes I wore onk was like a track spike. With no cushion, no soul, no nothing.
Starting point is 00:10:42 It was just a shell of a shoe and a shoelace. So just being able to feel, to me, I feel as much faster playing on that turf. I like grass, but you know, I mean, I like grass on show, but you know what? didn't slip because I was a heavy planter and I made sure you know I was always I always you know a lot of time you start slipping when you start I'm like bro there's a reason why you only got four spikes in the back and you got seven eight in the front so put your damn weight on the front of your on the ball of your feet not on your heels that's why you slip it like that should be common sense dumb dumb yeah hey and another reason I like it is
Starting point is 00:11:22 I was so unorthodox of some of the stuff I did. I could be running the out route. You know, the out route, your out route is on your seventh step, right? Yeah. Seven step with your outside foot. Mm-hmm. The out route and take an extra step because I can get the 12 so fast and run an outright off my left foot.
Starting point is 00:11:41 So let me ask you a question. Did y'all 10 row to 12 or you 12 roll to 14? I would always go. I always go from, you're supposed to roll from 10 to 12. Yeah. I would get the 12 because, you know, I can plant that one foot and just flip right away. You're planting on your inside foot?
Starting point is 00:11:58 No, I'm my right foot. My right foot. Yeah. Listen, I'm talking about one. Well, you're playing on your right foot if you're on the left side. You're planning on your left foot if you're on the right side. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I can do it in one motion because if you got a good DB, I'm talking about a really good DB that says, you know what? I'm not moving. I'm not fin of sit. I'm going to read the quarterback. The first three steps to them get my eyes back on you. and that roll, if you roll it from 10 to 12, he's driving. And if the ball ain't perfect, he's going the other way.
Starting point is 00:12:27 So I'm not going to give you no chance. I'm getting the 12, and I'm going to make sure you getting up out of there. Are you going right down the middle or you're trying to pick a shoulder? No, I'm staying right down the middle. I'm staying right down the middle. Yep. Because if I weave a good dude, you're just going to weave right with you. He's just going to reset everything.
Starting point is 00:12:47 So I want to give you no indication. and I want to just, I'm a stand a straight line, get you to open. If you open, boom, I'm snapping off. Right. You won't play ball. All right, without me yet. You got to get him out of that back pedal. Look, now they'll call it.
Starting point is 00:13:04 If you run into the guy, now, he's standing there, don't want to move, you run into him. They're going to call it now. Right, right, right. Before they wouldn't call that, because he's like, he's entitled to that ground also. Yep, so is. That's, that would, well, he's entitled to that spot.
Starting point is 00:13:17 and uh but you know i'm i'm trying i'm trying to get him to open up also yeah i'm trying to get him to open but for the most part the last thing they want to do they don't want you to step on their toes they don't want you to step on their toes because they know if you step on their toes it's over for the nine ball it's a wrap it's over for the nine ball hey and the last thing you want to do is hey and i'm you a oh so you know you got to be you come back like you dig i'm like oh hey it's coming this nine ball look at it running hey yeah I ain't going to be I'm playing my bad my bad I ain't mean to dig that hard to get you to open up but I had to get you out of that back parallel I had to make you move because if he doesn't move on Joe oh he's going to drive that oh he's driving that and especially it all depends on your how tight you are because he knows if you type the out oh you want some you want some space to run the out huh
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Starting point is 00:18:00 and on this week's episode, I'm talking to Olympian, World Cup Champion, and podcast host, Ashlyn Harris. My worth is not wrapped up in how many things I've won, because what I came to realize is I valued winning so much. that once it was over, I got the blues, and I was like, this is it. For me, it's the pursuit of greatness. It's the journey. It's the people.
Starting point is 00:18:24 It's the failures. It's the heartache. Listen to the Bright Side on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, there's my guy. Here it is. University of Alabama alum, 2005 MVP, 2005. offensive player of the year. Three-time pro bowler, all pro. There he is,
Starting point is 00:18:50 ladies and gentlemen, one of the best running backs in the game. Alabama, he's extremely happy because his crimson tied, beat the bulldogs between the hedges. My guy, Charlotte Alexander. What up, bro? What's up, fellas? How y'all doing? Man, I'm shocked. We had this conversation. We texted back and forth. You say, hey, oh, hit me a halftime of the game. I hit you at half time of the game. I said, I already know you in the bed. I'll talk to you next week, bro. So talk to about the game on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:19:23 What did you like about Alabama? Because they go to Florida State and they didn't look good. They had some cream plus, but this was really their first test after that lost against Florida State. What did you like about what you saw from your team? You know, at the end of the day, there is so much pressure to be great when you go to Alabama. You knew somebody was going to rise. you know, and so I love Ty Simpson, you know, we got our boy
Starting point is 00:19:47 Miller to run it, but there's always a great Bama running back there, so he came back this week, and so I just like that they, in the trenches, was just getting after it. You know what I mean? Like, big boys make him play, that's Bama tradition. Like, you ain't going to go find a deep tackle that ain't angry. You ain't going to find a
Starting point is 00:20:03 defensive end. They ain't going to try to bust you in the mouth. You ain't going to find some linemen trying to pancake every play. Like, you saw the boys put in work. And, you know, they get all the old head running back's hype, you know what I mean? You just, you know, you love it. And, and, you know, Georgia came, you know, Kirby comes from Bamba.
Starting point is 00:20:24 You know what I mean? Yes. With the school of Georgia Kimmer, he saw what that is. And so, you know, he's just trying to produce that that we've been doing for a thousand years, you know what I'm saying? So it was, it was awesome. Yeah. When you look at today's game, you, I mean, it's like you won the MVP, TD,
Starting point is 00:20:44 won the MVP, Lidanean won the MVP. The last running back to win the MVP was Adrian Peterson, and I think that was 2012. So it's been 13 years, and it doesn't look like we're going to have an MVP running back this season. Do you believe, Sean, we'll ever see another running back win the MVP? You know, to win, you got to have all them touchdowns. You know what I mean? So it's got to take touchdowns in the yards and in an amazing record. You know, so when both of Dana and I wanted, we had, you know, I had 20, I think when Dana came next year with 30 and we had great record. We was 13 and 3 and had 1,800 yards. You know what I mean? So he takes all three of those things for a running back to get it. And, you know, and the, and almost where
Starting point is 00:21:29 you overshadowed the quarterback, if the quarterback does anything with a 13 and 3 record, he almost gets the credit. And so that's what it takes nowadays. It takes yard touchdowns and a great record. And that's the thing, Ocho, before you go, is that what you mentioned, because now with this past happy league in the 17th game, you're going to have a guy throw for 5,050 touchdowns. So even if a guy, if a running back does have 25 touchdowns, you're like, damn, that quarterback, he did throw for 50 touchdowns, though, and he got 5,000 yards.
Starting point is 00:21:58 So it's going to be really, it's going to. Saquan would have needed to break Edie's record and then have about 24, 25 touchdowns. And then I think, I think then, Sean, he would have had a realistic chance of winning the MVP. other than that now, I think they're going to be content to give him the running back offensive play of the year
Starting point is 00:22:17 but give that award to a quarterback. Go ahead, Joe. It looks down. Yeah. And Sean, I know the NFL now is in the past happy league. Obviously, we had some great backs during our time when we played, but who were, let's say one, two, maybe three backs you enjoy watching today that
Starting point is 00:22:33 you like to look at and you enjoy their running styles and the way they play? Of course, Sequin is getting it done. And even his last year was phenomenal, but you could see it happening. Y'all know I'm still Bama through and through. I try not to be biased about it, but there is, man, I remember when he was in high school, I came in, and I said, and Nick said, hey, hey, go check out this young kid that's coming in.
Starting point is 00:22:55 He was in high school bigger than all of us. Fats. I said, oh, dang. Yeah, yeah, day here, man. And I still love Josh Jacobs, man. I think, like, he is just one of those guys that's, like, will always be like, oh, I'll and Josh Shaker, he going to always seem like he'd a fourth, fifth, sixth best back. But he gets it done, man.
Starting point is 00:23:17 But you know what, Gibbs, or Gibbs, Jemir Gibbs, and you got Jonathan Taylor. Johnson Taylor, he runs like an old school eye powerback. Hey, you remember, Sean, when you were in the league, a fullback, Sean dot the eye, LT, dot the eye, Jamal Lewis dot the eye, those guys dotted the eye. Now they do a lot more offset and things like that. You know, Lamar, you know, Baltimore has gotten back to that, because they realize Derek Henry runs better out of the eye than in the offset. Yeah, downhill.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Yes. If they're coming downhill, it's just going to, it's the wares of the defense. You know what I mean? And then you got all the receivers going to be wide open. You ain't never going to see like a two safety button. Not with Derek Henry, you know. And so we used to love that. You know, Chad, I was just thinking, you know, when I left Seattle,
Starting point is 00:24:05 I almost got to come to Cincinnati to play with you and T.J. What happened? The Redskins came in and I ended up going there But I felt you I was leaning towards Cedric Benson But it was going to be me, you and TJ
Starting point is 00:24:20 Said he did come You should have came with that vote We could have got us a nice little ring, man Oh, for sure For sure You all right now And the defense popping I said, oh man, I'm going to be there
Starting point is 00:24:31 They weren't popping, Sean You did the right thing Go ahead and take the money, Sean You're going to get beat up You're going to get beat up for nothing Sean, you're one of 10 players in NFL history to have 100 Russian touchdown. Seven are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The three that are not, Adrian Peterson, we know he's going to be in the Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Derek Henry and yourself. With that being said, the others that are retired and have those numbers are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Do you believe, based on your resume, based on what you've done, an MVP, an officer player of the year, a multiple-time pro bowler, all pro, 100-plus touchdowns, do you believe your resume warrants you getting a gold jacket? Oh, I think so. I think so. I try to keep it as humble as possible. But I think that being able to wear the gold jacket, you got to go in and set your team on fire. y'all know one no one going to seattle people are supposed to go out to eat some shrimp and then get a win and get out of there and by time we left you had the fight for your life to even win a game in seattle i think we went two three years winning every game in seattle um you know the hundred touchdowns the the touchdowns the touchdowns the 1800 yards and back-to-back 20 touchdown seasons all those things you know i did i think it was like 90 90 something touchdowns in like six years five six years you know
Starting point is 00:26:02 It was so, like, garty and fast. This is all before. And folks wouldn't even, there was no, like, national TV. Like, folks couldn't watch all the games like they got now, you know. I would go into stadiums and, you know, they announced this time. And in the tailback, Sean Alexander, and people start cheering. And I leaned over to Max Strong. My football said, hey, why are they cheering for me?
Starting point is 00:26:24 They said, there's this thing called fantasy football. No, you don't even play. You were the best of the game. I was like, oh, okay. All right. You and LT? So obviously you're up on your, of the 128 guys, now you made the list, original list.
Starting point is 00:26:47 So I don't know if you've made it down to the final. So have you made it to the final 25 yet? I think I made it to the 50 last year. Okay. Is that how it is? It goes to 120 to 50. Yeah, it goes, yeah, it goes 50, then it goes 25. and then they will it down to 10.
Starting point is 00:27:04 And now they take a max of five. Okay. They take a max of five. So I don't know who your presenters. I don't know who that would be your presenter in Seattle. I don't really know. So have you gotten any feedback? So what if what if some of the reporters have you talked to the guy that that cover you,
Starting point is 00:27:24 that that would be your presenter that would go up and make the case for you? Have you talked to him? What if some of the reporters, some of the voters, what have they said? Yeah, you know, Mike Sando was there. He was the young guy when I was there coming in. So he's the guy that does all the report now. And he's always said, like, man, I think you're going to get in. He goes, it's just time.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Like, I don't know how all the work with the log jams. And, you know, I got to play. My big brother was Ricky Waters. You know what I mean? And so, like, Ricky, like, love me in. Like, you know, he showed me all the hot flashing of him with the Niners and Philly. He got to me. I said, I don't know that guy.
Starting point is 00:28:00 That guy, I got a humble big. brother that taught me all the game you know and so and so you know so you got him you got fred taylor those guys are are great and they've done their thing but they ain't got a hundred touchdowns you know what I mean that's a lot because like you said there's only 10 players that have 100 Russian touchdowns that has 100 Russian touchdowns that's a lot of touchdowns and and your resume says based on the the criteria of the other guys that are in there now I don't No, you know, obviously, I think Walter Payton, I think Walter is one of those guys.
Starting point is 00:28:38 L.T. Emmett, obviously, Emmett has 165 rushing touchdown. I think L.T. has 145. Derek Henry is way up there. I think Derek Henry and, you know, there's Big Boy from Reskes. Yeah, John Riggins. And you got, you know what made me chase after that goal was Barry Sanders. He had 99.
Starting point is 00:29:04 He had 99. And that was, hey, I was going after, you know, and Barry, Barry's always been like an unk to me. You know, you unc, but Barry was always like an unk to me, you know. And he would come in and hug on me and be like, man, go get it, you know. So it was really sweet when I got that. I had like one of them great moments, you know, and being to talk to him and be like, yo, I passed you.
Starting point is 00:29:23 And he was like, hey, well done. So, you know, when you have Barry Sanders tell you, well done, man, it's a sweet moment. Barron is the only guy that I can honestly say, Barry don't care about no stats. Barry, Barry, it's like, Bay, Barry, hey, man, he's good. Yep, he just, hey, he gives you that smile and nod. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Let me ask you this. Give me your top five Alabama running backs. Now, you know, Bobby Humphrey, major Ogilvy, before your time, but you know, you got you, you got him yeah yeah so give me give me your top five oh man wilbur jackson okay he five uh gosh these these new boys they were they were amazing man uh so i got bobby humphrey okay be humph i'll play with hump and dillber that that's four and so then i'm gonna go with i mean ban was first Thomas Mark Ingram.
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Starting point is 00:35:03 I'm going to go with, uh, yeah, I kind of lean. I want to lean with Josh, but, but Damon Harris was solid. They had, they had a, they had a, they had, remember Triton was solid? Yeah. Yeah. They had, they, they had some, some killers. when Nick one of them first ones, man. They were Eddie Lacey.
Starting point is 00:35:25 All them boys was just phenomenal college running backs. And Alvin Camaro transferred out. Showed it, because he couldn't get on the field. Think about that. And he rested, so, boy, they were loaded. They had T.J. Yeldon. Yep. Bad day.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Yeah, bad day. Y'all was loaded at tailback. Tailback you, man. Everybody was coming through. I knew this because we had a conversation at the autograph signing in Virginia two years ago. And I was at out, you know, we met each other say, hey, man, what's going on? How the family? How the family doing?
Starting point is 00:36:01 And I say, hey, bro, I know how the family. I know you got like, you know, four or five kids. That's last I heard. You looked at me like, Sean, I got 12. I said, hold on. I said, hold on, bro. I say, Sean, for real. And at first, I was like, from all, he said from all the same, we've been married.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I think you say high school sweethearts or something, do you talk? No, we met my first day in Seattle. Oh, Lord, have mercy. My first day in Seattle. 2001? Yeah, 2000. Yeah, I got there. Yeah, you got there 2000.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Yeah, you got there 2000. You and Jamal was in that same draft class. That's right. That's right. Yes, okay, okay. Yeah, so me and Jamal was there. And they remember, and I ever thought I was going to go to New York because they picked Ron Dane to go to New York. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I told them, I told them. I said, I was going to take the Ravens to the Super Bowl. I was going to take the Giants Super Bowl, year one. I knew they had the defense, you know? Yes. And they picked Jamal and Ron Dane, and they both went to Super Bowl and played against each other. Man, I was hot. So, but yeah, but I met my wife, Valerie, that I got there, came in town.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Kendrick Burton was a D-D-N at Bama, and then went to Titans. they got traded to the Seahawks. I get there, he throws a barbecue, and he brings his girlfriend over. He's like, man, I need you to meet my girl. I didn't do it, Ocho. I didn't do it on no thing. It wasn't her.
Starting point is 00:37:26 She said, you need to meet my roommate. We've been together ever since. Damn. So do you come from a big family? Yeah, my dad and I, we close, but he'd be like, Sean, I'm so proud. You didn't do it like your dad did. You know, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:43 Them naughty boys, you know what I mean? So, yeah. So my family is big. There's, there's nine of us. So it's five boys and four girls, you know, a couple different baby moms. But, but yeah, but now, we now pregnant with number 14, you know, just my wife and her. Did you, did you always want a big family or just like it kind of just got to just happen? I wanted like five or six, you know what I mean? But you've been long, long past five or six, Sean. Hey, you know what I mean? You know, you know, oh, show, don't be smiling now. You know what I'm saying? Listen, listen, I like it.
Starting point is 00:38:23 I have, I have, I have eight. Yeah. I have eight and I want two more. I'm trying to go for twins. So, listen, I'm enjoying the conversation. I like it. I didn't do things the traditional way in which you did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:36 What they did do it, I make it work. Hey, I think I make it work. Hey, everybody's got to win. Everybody's got to win at the end. And so, like, I found the right woman. that want to have kids that want to be faithful that we're going to just ride out, ride or die. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:52 And so, and y'all know marriage is hard. You know what I'm saying? I said it's easy, you know what I mean? But we was like, man, like, let's see how. And so it was actually her idea that said, like, yeah, well, what if God just said I could have as many as I want? And I was like, well, you know, let's do it. You're like, I'm down.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Yeah, okay, count your boy. Count your boy, ain't you? Yeah, hey, I was in. I was here I said less how old so how old is the oldest and how young is the youngest
Starting point is 00:39:24 okay so the oldest is 22 she's a senior in college okay and then the youngest is two so this would be the longest gap so by time this baby is born the next one will be three years old so two and a half to
Starting point is 00:39:39 22 are you are you done are you done yes are you done we never we never say like we're done we just like all right like let it ride you know what I mean and so I thought we were done because we didn't have no more kids you know right you know what I'm saying because it wasn't like you weren't practicing you just hey it just wasn't happening you know man whatever you know you said the longest the longest your wife
Starting point is 00:40:10 has gone without pregnancy is this so there's the the largest gap is between the two-year-old now and what this one will be, which will be a three-year gap. That's the longest gap. So you go from 22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 17, 15. Yeah. So they're about a year and 11, year, and 10 months. It was 22, 20, 18.
Starting point is 00:40:34 That's the oldest three girls. Okay. Then my son's 16, then 14. Those are my next two boys. And then we got 13-year-old girl. So we had three and three years. So after five, then we had 14, 13, and the 11-year-old turn is 12 in October. And then there's Jetty, Jenny's 10.
Starting point is 00:40:54 And then we had Tor. Tor is one we lost. She was 70 days old. So she would be about eight right now. So that's like half still. And then you got the bottom five, you know, so that's Torah. Torah is eight. So it would be eternity is seven.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Hosanna's five. Hopi is three in Judea's too. too. No twins. They're all just all single burst. Single burst. That's dope. Just man here on one. I love it.
Starting point is 00:41:24 It's live, right? If y'all came to our house, y'all wouldn't even recognize it. Because they all just flow, like folks be like forgetting we got that many kids because everybody just kind of, everybody fixes, they all slide together.
Starting point is 00:41:37 It's beautiful. I want to know the grocery bill. Give me the grocery bill a week. How often do you go to Costco? I said, every three, four days. Oh, for sure, for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:47 So we have a Costco run and then a local grocery store run. And we have a Whole Foods run every week. Okay. What do y'all drive? Do y'all drive like a yellow school bus or you go? I'm just trying to figure out how you get all these kids around because you like the old. Like the oldest, so you got a 20 and a 22. And then you got like an 18 year.
Starting point is 00:42:08 So if the 18 year graduates this year or she just graduated? She actually runs track at Liberty right now. So she was an All-American. And so, Chad, you know, we've got nine at home. You had a little neck and run, right? Yeah, she's at University of Kentucky. She's a sophomore. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:23 So mine's a freshman right now. So I remember us talking about your little one right there. So, yeah, so the girls drove everybody everywhere. You know, they were awesome. You know what I mean? But now they're gone. And so now it's the boys. Man, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:39 He got another year or two before he able to drive everybody. Yeah, you know, so they, they, and they, they boys. They're about bawling and going to hang with it. You know, they ain't as nurturing as all the girls are. So we got to get them right. But, but yeah, like, so we have a Tahoe and a suburban, and those are, and then we have a 15 passenger van. And so that's how it works.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Because, you know, the oldest of the young ones don't even want to ride together, you know, so. And so that's how usually works. I want to know vacation, how you get, because I remember saying, how you get, let's just say, because I know ain't a way, all of y'all can go on vacation so how do you go are you driving everywhere are you flying how are you getting from point a to point B if you're going on vacation so uh so what usually happens is is we
Starting point is 00:43:28 get in that 15 passenger okay somewhere and we go and we'll stay for like a week or two and so we'll hit the be outer banks is a big beach in north carolina we'll go down to florida so we'll take a bunch of stops you know we'll go see my family in kentucky uh when we first retired we bought one of them uh them RVs and that was nice that little driver come in and you know it take us all around and we we stopped and everywhere and that was that was sweet but then then as they got older we turned it we turned it to the 15 passenger and we drove it that way so that's usually how we go like we'll play in somewhere we're going to go somewhere we're going to stop for us for seven to 15 days but I'm just trying to figure out how you get all that all that luggage you need something with a with a rack on the top
Starting point is 00:44:09 you need like a school a yellow school bus like the Partridge family you remember the Partridge family For sure, for sure. How they had all the instruments on top. That's what you need for luggage. Yeah, our luggage game. My wife is like, she's amazing how she do it. So the luggage game always got to be on. So we'll pack as much as we in.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Sometimes we'll send stuff there, wherever we're going to go for a while. We'll, you know, the 30s be wonderful for us because we just send stuff there. And then it's there when we get there. Wow. Let me ask you a question. Because a lot of times I have family members that have six or six, six kids, I think six is the most they have. And they dress alike. Do you dress
Starting point is 00:44:47 the kids alike? The ones that's close in age, are they dressing alike? Or everybody has their own individual style and their own individual look? Now, we put them in sex. So like, so like, you know, the oldest three girls, they was all different, but they, they color codes would be nice. You know what I mean? Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Yes. The boys was always Bama, Seahawks, you know, they was always like that. So they got their sport. Okay. It was the next middle girls. And they was all about them, a little funky compared to the older girls. Older girls was primary problem. My mom had them dressed to the
Starting point is 00:45:19 tea, you know what I mean? Okay. The middle girls, they love funky divas. You know what I mean? They invoked type, you know what mean? So that's them. And then Jeddah Di, he's the third and youngest son, his own man. He walking here, if he was up right now, and I came right now, he'd be like,
Starting point is 00:45:36 you're kind of big. You think you're tough? Like, that's him. That's Jeddahite. He walked in commanding the whole room, you know what I mean? And you took a picture with him, man. And I want to thank you still, man. Because he don't let anybody know that they cool to him. And you did that to him. So I was like, man, I can tell you like Shannon.
Starting point is 00:45:57 He was like, yeah, yeah, I like Unc right there. That guy, I know. And then it's the baby girls. And they're all just, they're just doll babies, man. They all, because now everybody's played sports. Right. And they all more sporty than everybody else. And so it's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:46:13 have you ever been have you been approached by reality about doing reality television oh yeah oh yeah yeah yeah and you said no i did i did you know i didn't know well first i just kind of saw all the families that go through it it seemed like they all got caught in trying to perform and i don't want to do that to my kids you know what i mean okay i see i see you know so i i figured if i had the right kind of situation then we would do it you know and so like you know i've been asked because you know we start that high school, the homeschool co-op and the football program, Harvest Covenant, this is the first year. So I've been asked to do that. And I've been thinking about that because that's more about the sport. And then you just can't help but get my family all in it,
Starting point is 00:46:56 but they're not focal point. And so I've thought about it. I've been asked to do docu-series about family and community. And, you know, they'd be like, Sean, how, how you got, you know, these cats over here and your family and you know, y'all know, you know. And then you got the academic people when you made all this with you. these business partners and your world like it. And I was like, that's how I thought, that's how I was taught heaven was going to be like. That's how I was taught. Like, it's got just this big, awesome that everybody can be themselves, but just be awesome and being themselves.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And so that's our world. You know, we get, we get to pull everybody in to go be great. Well, I think it was the Duggers that had 19 and counting. I don't know if you're going to reach that number, but you're like 14 in counting. Hey, Sean, what post-career outside of football, kids, family, marriage, what other things do you enjoy? What are you passionate about, you know, that you like to do outside of the kids where you can get away from and have somewhat of a woo-saw moment? Yeah. I, I, uh, Sashana's favorite hobby, but now, so, uh, there you go.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I was always one of those people that like to inspire people to do something great. And so I have just tried to find the greatest partners that would motivate people to motivate people. So I got like this great partnership with this group called Staying Together. And it's like about 800 of some of the most successful businessmen and women in the country. And they like put their money and their efforts together to go like inspire the world. So I like partnering with them. I've always been like mentor man. I've had great men around me my whole life.
Starting point is 00:48:41 So I always thought I could give that back. So so I've always been a part of just pouring in. So like I just like there's a handful of dudes that some in the league, some never play in the league that I'm just like big bro to them, you know? And I've just watched them grow. And so, you know, my, you know, awesomely, I was, I was the freshman player of the year. So if you're the best player, you win the Heisman. You know, if you're the best freshman in the country, you win the Sean Alexander Award.
Starting point is 00:49:05 And so I have, it's always been fun, like, meeting with the guys and, you know, remember Jade and Daniels when he was, Trevor Lawrence was the first winner of when it was named after me. And, you know, watch these dudes at 18, 19 years old and watch them grow to become young men. And now, you know, Trevor's married with his first baby, you know, and Drake made won it a couple years ago. And Caleb Downs, you know, he won it as a freshman and then goes from Bama to Ohio State. And I'm on the inside with all that, walking him through and talking to his parents and this and that and making decisions. It's an awesome and pleasure and it's an honor to be a part of helping, you know, mold the culture with football and seeing all the stuff do. So, like, those are all just part of that. And then, you know, my son, you know, we traveled so much.
Starting point is 00:49:55 So we homeschooled from Seattle to D.C. to play with the Redskins. And so we just kept on homeschooling them. And I mean, it worked for the girls. But that's how we started Harvest Covenant. homeschool and football program because I needed a way to be able to let my boys play football and also still travel the way we do. And next to you know, now I got about 30 young men all in the area. And some of these boys are D1, I'm over here.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Like my wife, I'm saying, like, you're trying to be little Dion. You're trying to be little. While I'm watching, I got some kids that can play. And then my boys are talented. You know, Chad, you need to come teach my oldest one to make sure he step on some. some toes. He's off to a good start as a sophomore. And it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool watching it all. John, you had the experience of playing in the Super Bowl. What would that moment like? Because as a kid, we grew up, we dreamed like seeing it on television. And I'm like, man,
Starting point is 00:50:52 is that a possibility? Now we go to college and we get an opportunity to go to the NFL. And then, you know, it happens. And you're like, man, everybody in Kentucky, everybody at Alabama is going to be watching a kid that grew up dreaming of this moment. Now this dream is a reality. What was that moment like for you? You know, it was sweet. I remember in sixth grade when the Bengals played, Boomer-Syerson was the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:51:17 The Icky shuffle was live. You know what I mean? That's what everybody was doing. 1988. Yeah, man, I was in sixth grade. And I just remember watching the camera show them. Because, you know, that's when cable was starting to come in through. I remember them busing to the airport to go fly.
Starting point is 00:51:32 to play in the Super Bowl. And I just thought, man, that'd be sweet if I did that. And so I was having all those moments in Seattle because out of all the places, you know, Seattle was the farthest away from Cincinnati. But then also the farthest way football, like they, they was not a good program. And they brought Mike Hogan over there from Green Bay. Yep. Then he drafted me.
Starting point is 00:51:54 And I was like, man, let's go do this. You know, so not being in the cup was the only thing that was not going to happen. You know what I mean? I was like, we're going to get there. And so, you know, that whole experience was awesome. Just seeing the city turn from, like, fans was always rowdy, but to having this confident, swag, we championship football. It was awesome because I got, you know, my high school was ranked national.
Starting point is 00:52:20 And then I go from there to Alabama. And then I got to Seattle. It was a shock to me to have guys not think they was going to not win every game. So coming out of that to see what there is. And I don't remember when Pete Carroll gets there and Russell and Marshaun and they all, they all call me, hey, bro, this water over here warm. I'm like, yeah, y'all got one more step and y'all got it.
Starting point is 00:52:44 So it was cool. And, you know, just watching Richard and Wagner and all the boys just coming that leads in the boom, watching the win. I just felt like I was like the John the Baptist of that group. I got to go bring that thing right up to the table. Right. I wish I'd have got mine, but it was cool to see, like, Seattle still has that winning, that winning culture, and I got to be a part of building that.
Starting point is 00:53:08 man congratulations on everything Sean we're going to wish you the best of luck I definitely think with your numbers you definitely want the consideration
Starting point is 00:53:18 of getting into the Hall of Fame because in your era when you played you were one of the preeminent backs and so I think it should be they need to take a real hard look you can't say well
Starting point is 00:53:29 he wasn't no we talk about our era we're talking about the area in which I played which was the 2000s you see what do you see the numbers that I put up the touchdowns that I put up, the yards that I put up,
Starting point is 00:53:41 and MVP officer player the year, and I helped lead a team to the Super Bowl. So, yeah, yeah, I think y'all need to, y'all need to really look at Sean Alexander and give it a hard look and say, you know what, excuse me, this man is deserving of recognition. Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you for that. No, I agree, man.
Starting point is 00:54:03 You know, everybody puts their work in and you don't want to make it, but I think it was Terrell Davis said to me, He's like, Sean, you got to let everybody know that they mean something to you because it does. Like, you work here. You don't want to be like, oh, without this award, I can't. But you definitely want to be a part of this. Yeah, it's the final validation. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:20 You work hard. And when that thing's done, you want to look around and be like, oh, yeah, no, we believe, yeah, we should be in this group, you know. So, so yeah, no, thank you for that. I'm with you. You know what I mean? We put in the work and it's been beautiful. Well, congratulations on everything. congratulations on number 14
Starting point is 00:54:38 You can babysit Oh no, no, no, no No, no I got you. Have you got a name? You got a name, you got a name. You and your wife have a name picked that. Valerie got a name picked out.
Starting point is 00:54:47 We don't even know if it's a boy or girl. We usually don't find out. Oh, really? She'll eventually just show up and be like, hey, I had to find out in this. So, yeah, so she'll crack before I will. And then I'm going to celebrate. You're hoping for a boy?
Starting point is 00:55:03 Yeah. Yeah. Man, you know, girls are some work now. Yeah. Girls are some work. Especially when they hit that age. Man. It's, yeah, it's, it's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I love them. They're beautiful. They're wonderful. But they some work. They are some work. They are some work. Congratulations on everything, man. Take care.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Come back and stop by and see us again soon, Sean. Oh, we will, man. We will. Appreciate you, Roald. Roll tide. Sean Alexander, ladies and the gentleman, a 2005 MVP, officer player of the year,
Starting point is 00:55:38 100 plus touchdowns, helped lead the Seahawks to their very first Super Bowl, an outstanding player, but he's a better man. And you listen to him talk. He's a man of faith. He's all about his family, loves his wife, devoted,
Starting point is 00:55:52 devout in his faith. And he's like I said, he's a much, he's a, we know the type of player that he was, but he's a much better human being, much better human being. You know what?
Starting point is 00:56:02 I'm glad he came on here because I'm going to be just like that. I'm going to follow the footsteps of Sean Alexander. I'm going to be a family man. I'm going to get married. I'm going to have more kids. And then what I'm going to do is I'm going to go get all my kids now and take all those I have kids from to court
Starting point is 00:56:20 because I want full custody so I can have me 14 kids too. Oh, you still got them? Huh? Uh-uh. You think I'll win? No. you're going too much. John Harbar caused a stir last night,
Starting point is 00:56:37 Ocho, when he wouldn't comment on whether Lamar would have stayed in the game if it was closer. Well, with a second chance to answer question today, Harbaugh said, no, there's no way he was going back in the game. The injury precluded it. There was no way he could go back in the game. And I know, and I know the way I know Lamar, if he could have gone back, gone in the game,
Starting point is 00:56:58 he would have been in the game. That's how Lamar is. I can assure you he would, he would not have. have been able to go back in under any circumstance. I mean, would you want to? I mean, we expect these coaches. We expect players to be perfect after the game. And that's why I like what coach says,
Starting point is 00:57:20 I need to look at the tape. I haven't talked to the trainers. You know, a lot of times, the trainer say, well, such a, ohcho got Nick. He'll be fine. You know, he just got a little swelling in his ankle. You know, his knee a little banged up. You know, Shannon's elbow is.
Starting point is 00:57:33 bothered such and such got a little shoulder something like that go ahead i have a question the game wasn't close huh no it was not so why the media or anyone else just speculating well if the game had been closer wouldn't have been able to come back in that doesn't matter that's a hypothetical it wasn't it wasn't close though yeah it wasn't it wasn't close enough he was hurt he's injured get evaluated it's probably day to day and we'll see how how bad it is and if you can play next week, who the Ravens got next week, huh? Oh, I don't know who the Ravens play. The Texans.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Okay, okay. See, the Texans coming off a win, so the Texan is probably, probably going to, oh, shoot, but Nico Collins probably going to have a day. Yeah. Hey, and you see Marlon Humphrey is done for the season, tore ligament in his foot. Matibwe, done for the season.
Starting point is 00:58:31 I saw it at a big way. I saw that. I saw that the D-Lyman. But I ain't know. Damn, Marlin. Yep. Oh, Cho, after last night's tie in Dallas, Michael was asked if a tie between missing Dallas or being happy,
Starting point is 00:58:46 he's a packer. He said, Brian Gutikins called Kenny Clark after the trade. Jerry Jones never called him. Michael said the same way he called me in his office as a man, he couldn't tell me as a man. And let that go. I might let it go. Michael, you got to let it go, Michael.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Well, you know what? They got to stop asking. the goddamn questions. He has to stand his ground and tell those. I'm a Green Bay Packer. How it came to be, why it came to be, when it came to be, what came of it. I'm in Green Bay and I'm happy to be in Green Bay. I'm happy to, look, I enjoy my four years in Dallas.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I still have great friends. I'm a great, DAC, CD, I got some, Trayvon, I got great guys over there. I wish them the best. But now I'm in Green Bay. my focus is Green Bay and the Packers. That's how you got to do it. Because this makes it seem like, make it seem like he's like, man, he couldn't even,
Starting point is 00:59:40 no, it's okay. They start to make it like the day, days of our lives. They make it like a goddamn soap opera. Yes, yes. So I would just let, look, yeah, I'm happy to be in Green Bay. It's amazing. Those fans are amazing. The team is open, welcome me with open arms.
Starting point is 00:59:56 The fans of open, welcome me with open arms. My job is to help. try to help Green Bay do something that I didn't do. I couldn't do what I was here in Dallas. That is get to and win a Super Bowl. That's my focus. So guys, moving forward, I enjoy my time right here. I appreciate Jerry Jones making my dream come true,
Starting point is 01:00:14 drafting me, and I love my time with the Cowboys. But now my focus is the Green Bay Packers and helping them be the best team I can possibly be. Oh, yeah. I like that. I like that. All right, Ocho, now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q.
Starting point is 01:00:30 and eight. Are we done? I'm getting ready to set up my other mic. Kempren Northwood Jr. said, Ocho, the Bengals are calling. They need a TD. Where is 85? Let's go Broncos.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Ain't no TDs be had. There wasn't no TDs be had, Kemprenf. Hey, don't start that. You're not even the Broncos fan. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. How you know what Kempri is? He ain't a Bronco fan. How you know?
Starting point is 01:00:59 I just know I can feel it. I can sense it. Y'all just trying to kick me while I'm down. That's all. I wouldn't do that, Ocho. Yeah, y'all trying to kick me while I'm down. Ocho? I know one thing.
Starting point is 01:01:13 I want y'all to keep the same energy. Everybody that was in the chat that was laughing, everybody that's a Bronco fan, you know, makes sure y'all keep that same energy next Sunday when y'all play Philly. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. We'll talk about that next week.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Right now, we talk about the Broncos. Okay. How we stomped the mud in you. Yeah. You stomped the mud in the team that doesn't have a quarterback that's nothing to be proud of. What about your defense? Huh?
Starting point is 01:01:43 What about your defense? Did y'all miss anybody on defense? Who are you missing on defense? Listen, they hit. They can only do so much. We ain't putting them no points. Y'all ain't do nothing. Gave up 48 last week, gave up 28 this week.
Starting point is 01:01:59 It would have been not. if we had scored some points. Nobody thought y'all was going to score. Triple Xopsanity said, I don't want Ocho to say foot or ball. Also, pay on his money. Yeah, run me that. I got you.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Jason Zeldor said, Ocho, should never be allowed to say foot or ball, ever. Hey, Ocho, since you love Russ so much, how about you convince your Bengals to give my Giants a first round pick for him? your QB trash give my jazz a first round pick since you love him Ocho that ain't happened uh Jada from Akron Ocho with the number one pick in the 2026 draft the bingo select y'all about to have the first overall pick
Starting point is 01:02:48 and y'all getting carried away now y'all getting carried away okay y'all are happy about your little win it's all good because we're going to see who get the last last next week oh why is this yeah I say hostility I'm not being hostile I'm just saying they got all these jokes all this he he he ha ha ha it's funny now key we're gonna see what's funny next week uh Babel Patel said Ocho Q the Cam Ward meme you're sorry but bingles you know the a y'all put that up you all go and put that up there when we talk about when we post something put that uh Cam Ward mean up there talking about the Bengals.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Because it's about to be just like the Adrian Brunner. Man, I'm getting cooked. Wolfhead Fag
Starting point is 01:03:40 says Zach Taylor needs to be bagging groceries, Ocho. I'm sorry. Don't say
Starting point is 01:03:45 foot or ball all season. Unk one. Damn, man. It's like I can't even argue. I can't even argue
Starting point is 01:03:55 the fact. Brown versus bingoes battle for last in the AFC North. NFL matchup highlight said What's Up Ocho? Patrick Sartan looked like a mix between Derell Revis technician Nandi Asimawa
Starting point is 01:04:13 long arms, press coverage. Do you see that in P.S.? Also, can you tell us your matchup with Nandi or Revers from your date? Did you go against Nandi? Cooked him. or cooked him. Only one person stopped me. That was Revis.
Starting point is 01:04:28 That was it. That was it. People don't realize how long Revis arms were. Yeah. People look at him and look at his stature. Yeah. They don't understand how strong he was, too.
Starting point is 01:04:39 He's strong as hell, boy. Yes. Strong as hell. You get them, get them hands on you. It's a rap. Ricky A's saying, somebody get Ocho some Pepto Bismol. I know he's sick how them Bengals played.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Forget how they play, how they look in playing. Ooh, the lion's about to put a 50 ball on y'all. No, I'm, I'm coming out the tunnel with them boys. I don't, I don't care. I don't care what Zach say. I don't, they might call, they might say I'm trespassing. You can't be here in the locker room and I, I don't care. I'm going to give him a pep talk.
Starting point is 01:05:09 And for some reason. Huh? Trispassing? They might, I don't know. Oh. Because I'm going to try to go, I'm going to try to go in a locker room before the game. Nah, I mean, there is garbage and there's trash. since it's both true yeah true and infamous 73 said oh joe since the dolphins won but the bingles
Starting point is 01:05:32 lost you can't say foot but not bald you can say foot but not ball that's not his team it's where i'm from what they got to do anything because that's all i knew that's all i knew Now, I get the shirt for the Bears. You're not from Chicago, though. I was born. I'm done with this man. Free TV said, Ocho, all that trash talking for the Bengals, not trying to back pedal to talk about shame to the chat.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Nah, Ocho, you should have been humble. You should be ashamed. And he should. I was humble. No, you weren't. I was humble. No. I was humble.
Starting point is 01:06:16 But the Broncos humbled, then. They ain't humble me because I wasn't on the field. Yeah, no, no. Hey, if I was, y'all see I did the chat, Chet, y'all see him, chat. Now he wasn't on the field. When none of that happened. Chat, you see him, chat.
Starting point is 01:06:29 You see what he did. Now, now he wasn't on the field. Now, all this time, he's talking about his bangles, his bangles, his bangles. Now, he wasn't on the field. If I was on the field, wouldn't none of that happened. I tell you that. It woulda. Just like that.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Absolutely. Uh, JJ said, Ocho, you were. was saying Jake Brunton was going to cook the Broncos last night. I ain't say that. I said that. I did. I said that. Yep.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Bible said, oh, does this mean you're going to say Ocho? Yep. That's what you got to eat on camera. What? Bull, penis and onions. Hey,
Starting point is 01:07:13 you talk about you want to be adventures. You got all this stuff? That's what I got. No, no. Ocho's outrageous eats. No, I'm no, we need to do outdoor stuff. This outdoors, but guess what?
Starting point is 01:07:25 I'm having to have a picnic bitch out there and you go sit down there? Yeah, that's it. Chat, y'all down? That's not. Fucking Ocho's adventures. Where we go, we eat squirrel, we eat possum, we eat armadilla, we eat mild noisters. Listen, I like everything you just said, but we got to catch them first. No, he ain't going to catch them.
Starting point is 01:07:46 They already, the bull already cooked that they're not already cut it. That ain't fun. I ain't trying to kill, no. I thought we'd be in a picture. The chance of it, yes, yes. That's what's going to make the show. Yep, he could eat bullshlong and onions. Players with Ocho Men Challenge by stats don't win championship for a reason.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Ocho say he won't a number, but he want to win, too. Aaron Jones, you celebrated like y'all going to be coming January. We got you in Philly next week. Let's see how the Broncos ride. Yeah, there you go. Talk that junk from you, young boy. I appreciate that. Hey, fly Eagles fly.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Fly, Eagles, fly. I don't even know the rest of the song. Why are you singing it? You ain't even from Philly. I'm going for Philly next week against y'all. That my team, my team does be here, is not he want to go for somebody else. What is bad.
Starting point is 01:08:48 A wolf have facts that. I like to know the year Ocho played for the Miami Dolphins. I just can't remember. Twin and never. I didn't play for the Dolphins in 1968 when I was born in Jackson Memorial Hospital at 308 a.m. My mother name was Paula Antonette Johnson. Thank you. And you ain't played for the Miami Dolphins.
Starting point is 01:09:13 You played for the Bengals and the Patriots. I played for the Dolphins too. James Coleman said, She had them putting on them gloves like OJ. Come on, man. They still fit. David Joseph, uh,
Starting point is 01:09:27 give the chat that 90's mile high salute. Boy, they did a lot of that last on y'all. That because I wasn't on the field. You couldn't stop it. Anthony Wright said, when you see the first drive from Cincinnati, I thought myself,
Starting point is 01:09:45 okay, they might have a chance. But damn, that changed quickly. I thought, I thought it was going to be a game, honestly. after that first drive I said okay
Starting point is 01:09:53 now I can live with this now honestly I was I was thinking with my heart and I wasn't using logic there's really no way we was going to win that game I just had to I had to have faith and say some of the things I said yesterday I mean without your starting quarterback
Starting point is 01:10:14 you really don't have no chance I'm just being honest and in defeat right Right now, I'm hurt. I've been crying all the day. Y'all ain't got your quarterback. Whoopty-do. Shadow 808-0-8-10, at least my Saints put up a fight this weekend.
Starting point is 01:10:37 We have no receiver one. They did. They played harder. Y'all did, no, Choate. At least they got it. No, man, I ain't going to say nothing. Patrick Rindon said, oh, please let us. us know whenever grass would turn the cheese so we can start hustling crackers because you being
Starting point is 01:10:56 right about this bingoes ale. I told them, yes. Bingles got more else to come. If you're talking about who they, it's going to be when day. Winding, I told you, they're going to win lose three games in a row. Started last week with Minnesota, they're going to lose two to us and the lions. Man, Knuckles and Sonic, they're about to have about 300 yards on y'all. They're about to do to y'all what they did to the ravens watch it's funny everybody want to kick you when you down oh hutch might have my faux sacks hutch gonna get my four sacks everybody want to kick you when you're down all right caleb dennis said burroughs christmas gift when he returns is an early trip to cancun ocho bragging about the dolphin like they like he's been swiping right with no match
Starting point is 01:11:43 both of your teams going to miss the playoffs we won the day i don't man get i don't care about no playoffs right now. I want to see my team compete and try you know, and show fight, show pride. Play for not, play, if you're not playing for the team, play for the name on the back of your jersey. Shoot, let's go.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Ten J. said, please wish my brother, Edward, a happy birthday. Edward. Happy birthday, bro. Hopefully you're doing something for it. Hopefully you're not a Bengals fan because your birthday got ruined by them sorry, rascals. Logan Wilson said, Ocho. Ocho, Ocho's pep talk.
Starting point is 01:12:19 One, two, three, Cancun? Let's go, guys. Dionne He'll say, can you guys call a play in the huddle, making Ocho and the targets, and then do your best quarterback impression, hiking the ball with a hard, crisp, hard snap count, cadence. What? He want to call the ball.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Well, if I'm going to call a two-jet flanker drive, I got the basic cross. Ed, which is the flanker, he got the drive. Rod, he's going, we can tag him and put him on a comeback. Otherwise, he got a post. Now, I'm getting the ball. Ocho, what do you play, X or Z? Man, this is me.
Starting point is 01:13:01 What do you mean when I play X or Z? This is me. All the, what do you call them, play the, play the Z. I play, yeah, was the Z. T.O. was the Z. I was the X. And now I got the ball. Matt Fitzgerl was the Z.
Starting point is 01:13:16 You didn't play, you didn't play. You didn't play no Z? No, I played the X, single side, by myself. Monty and Mono. I don't need no help. Line up, get open. I got it. What's next?
Starting point is 01:13:30 Quitting Mowbly. Darren Waller had a nightcap effect tonight. He did. James Coleman, I've revolved around the sun 38 times, and I just learned today that New Jersey is a state. I hope it gets better for me. Damn, James. Uh, Brian N's at Armid Ross St. Brown blocks crazy and still gets his.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Yep. Uh, Samuel LeGran, Jaila Hertz numbers, gets mentioned all the time. He wins, but get Clown for barely throw up for a hundred yards or labeled a tush push. Yeah, but people say he's the top four or five quarterback, not because of his stats, but because he wins. But look, at the end of the day. The only guy that wins really matter to is the quarterback or would they like you? If they like you, if they don't, they'll throw wins in there. Drafriil said, y'all think the bingo should give Shadour a shot.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Nah, because what's your call him ain't going to trade him to the brink? Teams ain't really trading within the division unless they really think you some trash. Big Blue, Wu. Oh, Gary Wilson hadn't made a playoff game. got $32 million, you're being disingenuous. Garrett Wilson ain't winning. He's not winning. You do understand if you're winning and you're complaining.
Starting point is 01:15:07 They're saying, what are you complaining about? Because the objective is to win. I ain't explained myself today. Jared D. say, love the show, Uncleo. Can y'all give my guy, Jaden Blackwell, a shout out. He just won his third world championship in track and field at the Paralympics. He won gold in Tokyo last year as well.
Starting point is 01:15:26 We absolutely can. Jaden, congratulations on the gold medal, bro, his third world championship in track and field. Congratulations for the Paralympics. Won another gold medal in Tokyo last year and won it again this year. Congratulations, bro. Keep up the great work. Cal Simpson said, oh, I said, once again, I said it again. Again, the Bible says a man who don't work, don't eat.
Starting point is 01:15:50 So at this point, the Ravens defense is a feed the children commercial. Cue the music. Fuzz like year 12th, it seems like the Bengals and the Broncos play almost every year. When can we get a nightcap bowl T-shirt? We did play y'all. We played y'all last year. I don't know if we played y'all the year before. but hey it was one one you know we play y'all again next year we put foot so y'all
Starting point is 01:16:20 jason zeldor said his mouth is always trying to cash checks his bingles can never write they are i told him stop believing in your sorry bingles hey leave me alone it's all good it's all good keep that same energy next week oh chole oh that's unnecessary man it's unnecessary. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap as you watch the Denver Bronco, Shalat, Molly Walk, Dog Walk, the Cincinnati Bengals by the score of 28 to 3. They had less than 160 yards of total offense. Really wasn't that competitive for the ball game. But hey, guess what? My team won. And if your team didn't win
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