Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Mavs reflect on SAD season, Don’t mess with DeMar DeRozan, Tracee Ellis Ross’s love life

Episode Date: April 20, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson and NBA Legend Joe Johnson react to the Dallas Mavericks season end press conference, possible trade destinations for Atlanta Hawks star Trae Young, DeMar DeRozan handling a troll in public, Tracee Ellis Ross’ comments on her love life, and much more!04:50 - Mavericks reflect on season21:00 - Trae Young trade destinations28:16 - DeMar DeRozan viral video44:20 - Tracee Ellis Ross only dates younger men59:41 - Q&Ayyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Wow. The Mavs say they're proud despite their tumultuous season. Clay, I think we persevered. We were down to eight, nine guys at one point, and we held up to four and got into the playing game, gave ourselves a shot to get into the playoffs. It sucks. It really sucks.

But I'm really proud of every man in this locker room. We showed up to work every day. We try to do things. We try to do the right things every day. Jason Kidd called it an incredible season. I mean, they can't tell the truth. Jason Kidd can't say what he really wants to say.

What's that? You know what they want to say. They're not going to say it. They can't say it. They're a part of the team. Klay knows what he wants to say, but he can't say it. What are you proud of Actually You let your best player go

When you let your best player go You bought in AD But what happened He got hurt Soon as he got there Cancun on what And And Kyrie got hurt

Now Kyrie That's the killer You get Kyrie got hurt. Now, Kyrie... That's the killer. You get Kyrie back, and you play... Now, Kyrie is tremendous in the pick and roll. Now, just imagine him dropping that thing off to AD, who got mid-range, can finish at the ramp, and he's protection. And you got two other bigs

that can let AD play with his natural position to play where he feels most comfortable, which is the fourth slot. So I'm not, look, I never thought this was like, we look at this right now. Because if you look at it right now, yeah, the Lakers got the better of the deal. But in full strength, when they get Kyrie back and pair him with AD, now you might have to ship one of those bigs off and get, I mean, look, do I believe Dallas

is going to be in the KD sweepstakes? Yeah. But what do they have to offer? I don't think they have the, I don't think they have the draft capital. So, if they don't have

the draft capital, basically, the only team that has draft capital, so, KD going to OKC. So, it's going to be KD and SGA. No, I don't know. But you have to understand. I don't know if Sam Preston wants that.

Right. SGA. Because look, now SGA got the ball in his hands. All of a sudden. Hey, if they win it, if OKC mess around and win it. They're not going to play with it? Nah.

I agree with you, Joe, because I believe had Golden State won the championship against Cleveland when they was up 3-1, I don't believe they'd get Kevin Durant. Nope. But they got Kevin Durant because they realized we'll never be able to beat Cleveland again. Right. With LeBron at his apex, Kyrie is now an all-star at his apex. Yeah.

We'll never beat him again. We got to get a neutralizer. We've got to get somebody that can go head-to-head with LeBron James. And at that point in time, there's only one man that can go head-to-head with him and match him bucket for bucket, and that was Kevin Durant. No. Yeah, that was it. Because when you look at it, LeBron and KD, that's a push.

Steph and Klay, Steph and Kyrie, that's a push. Right. But the difference was what Klay gave you. Kevin Love wasn't consistent enough. And when LeBron went to the bench, when they brought in Livingston and they brought in those shock troops in the second unit. So, I don't know. I don't know if Kevin Durant wants to go back to OKC.

Probably not. He left for a reason. I don't know. I don't think so either. Do Sam Presti want him back? Because, you know, you heard the rumors, Joe. Sam Presti valued Russ more than he valued KD. Hold on.

If KD's going somewhere else again, after leaving the teams he's left, Brooklyn, Phoenix, OKC, obviously he played with the Warriors and got rings. Wouldn't he want to go somewhere where he has a chance to get another ring and not just be playing basketball or going to another team just to be there because I want to be happy?

I want to go to where I can win. And what team gives him the best chance to win? Back home in OKC. I said the Heat. I mean, even with Brad going to the Heat, there's nothing of value that we can... This ain't the Wizard of Oz. There's no place like home.

There's no place like home. This ain't it. I like him in Detroit with Cade Cunningham. We just said, I'm sure he wants to win a championship. Hey, hold up, though. I like him in Texas. And he'll win in Mavericks or Houston.

Championship. That ain't it? Yeah, yeah, it is. Oh, yeah, here, but can I read it? Yeah, there'll be four of them. And hopefully you can keep, if you can't keep both of them bigs you can at least keep one but here's the thing though

Joe what draft capital do you have to give up I guess that 28 first round pick that you got from that you got from the Lakers they're going to have to piece something together they're going to have to do some you're going to have to get about 5 or 6 teams involved you're going to have to piece something together they're going to have to do some you're going to have to get about 5 or 6 teams involved

you're going to have to do something you're going to have to make it work and guess what Joe I ain't in the business of trying to help you win a championship nah I ain't got nothing I don't want a deal hold on hold on hold on Joe why not just go back to Golden State

he ran that course already man he did Joe, why not just go back to Golden State? He ran that course already, man. He did. But, Joe, you and I agree. You see, Ocho hadn't brought in yet. Dropping Kevin Durant in doesn't automatically mean championship because we've seen him drop in a couple of places other than Golden State. But Golden State had won 73 games the year before Kevin Durant got there. They had an MVP, a unanimous MVP,

the only guy that's ever won it unanimously. So it was a perfect fit. But let's be fair, the other places that he's been, he didn't make them better. Outside, when he was in Brooklyn and his foot was on the line when they played against the Bucks that year, I thought they had a pretty good chance,

but I think Kyrie got hurt. James Harden was already hurt, and then Kyrie got hurt like game two. But they had a 2-0 lead now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And game seven was on your court

or your home court. Yeah. Injury's a part of the game, man. It happens. Hey, if Kyrie and Kevin Love don't get hurt,

we might be having a different discussion about Steph Curry and LeBron. Yeah. Talk about their first one. The first time. Steph Curry,

I mean, Kyrie got hurt in that overtime.ron. Yeah. Talk about that first one. The first time. Yeah. I mean, Kyrie got hurt in that overtime. Yeah. Yeah. And Kevin Love didn't even play at all. Go ahead, Ojo.

Yeah. I don't know, Joe. I like it. I like, I like KD. To me, it made the most sense. If he does go somewhere else again, again, another move, I'm thinking Reign.

I'm thinking Reign. So you're saying OKC. What I'm saying is... OKC or back to the Warriors, even though he's already done it. You on the back end. You're not young no more. So cement your legacy even some more.

Go back to OKC. Whatever riff or any issues you might have with, is it Christy? That's his name? Christy? Presley. Presley, yeah. Whatever. If there's any issues, mend that.

Man, we talking basketball. Forget personal issues. Or go back to the Warriors. I just think OKC going to do well this postseason. And they can end up winning it. They're the youngest team in the league already, Ocho. So if they end up winning that, even if they got to the finals, I couldn't see them doing it.

Because you're going to have to give some of that youth up you got over there. Yeah, but if you give up the youth, you're making up for it in production that KD going to bring. I don't think they're willing to do that. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think they're willing to do that.

Jay, like my grandma used to say, I raised my hand. I think the thing is for me, Joe, Kevin Durant went to go to state. He got the rings. Now he gets to play free. Yeah. Yeah. That's why he went to go to state.

Because we're going to have the same conversation. He's not going to go to state. He's going to have the same conversation that we have about Carballon, that we have about Charles Barkley, that we have about other great players. Who's the greatest player? Never to win a ring. He got the ring. Now he can play free. Yeah.

And he ain't co-tailed. Hey, he ain't co-tailed neither. You know, he led the way, man. He was impressive, you know, in those two runs he had with Golden State. He was 35 in that first series. Man, he was a mismatch problem.

He was a nightmare. He was a nightmare. Yeah. So that's the thing. Look, everybody criticizes. People didn't criticize him because he was a free agent. They didn't criticize him for that. They was like, bro, how you join the team that you had down 3-1

and you go link up with them? You you had down 3-1 and you go link up with them. You had them down 3-1. I believe, look, and people are like, but Golden State needed KD as much as KD needed them. KD realized,

see, and now he's like, well, he could have went anywhere and won a championship. No, he couldn't have. He needed to go there. They're not beating the Cavs. Braun is at his apex. That Braun controlled the entire game. Tyreek giving you 26, 27. Kevin Love's going to give you the rebounds.

Tristan Thompson will give you the rebounds. And you got JR. You got guys that can make timely threes. They needed each other. Nobody needed anybody more than anybody else. Golden State needed KD. KD needed Golden State. That's why they got on a plane and went to the Hamptons.

That's why Kevin Durant, Rich Kleiman, told him where he was. Yeah, bro, I'm up in the Hamptons. I'm in Sag Harbor. Come on up here and holler at your boy. They loaded up that contingent. Bob Meyer, Steve Kerr, Draymond, Steph, and Klay. Yep.

A match made in heaven because now KD's playing with the greatest shooter ever and you know clay is just as good so you know that's a nightmare because kd's so great in isolation he can shoot he can play off those guys and they create so much attention yeah that the game was so stress free for him he could just free lads yeah i think i'm gonna get y'all about 40 tonight i'm gonna get up at 35 tonight i'm just chilling yeah and that's how think about the attention that steph draws draws yeah now this was five six years ago

and think about it the tension and you got clay wholay, who's arguably one of the two or three best catch-and-shoot three-point shooters in the history of the game. So you got perpetual motion, which is Steph. You got a great spot-up shooter, which is Klay. And you got a guy that's as efficient as anybody in Kevin Durant shooting the ball. A three-level score, three-point, mid-range, can finish at the rim. A 80-90% free three-point, mid-range, can finish at the rim, a 90% free

throw shooter. Really? Yeah. Too easy. It's too easy. And people are like, well, it ain't even fun no more. I mean, you got those two guys together. But hey, and he got tired of hearing it.

I mean, I know he's going to say that's not the case, but as I said this, Joe, I said that this was new edition when Johnny Gill joined. Johnny,

new edition fans was never going to accept Johnny because he didn't grow up in Roxbury, Boston. Right, right. He wasn't a part of the original group. He wasn't a candy rain. I mean, candy right. He wasn't a part of the original group. He wasn't a Candy Rain.

I mean, Candy Girl. He wasn't that. That's not him. Candy Girl. That's not him. He wasn't Ralph and Bobby and Ricky. Mike? No, that ain't him.

And Johnny could also say, and hey, don't get me wrong. All of them, because think about it. All of them went solo. Bobby did his thing. Woo. How about that? Ralph Transvane.

Sensitivity. You had the other guys. Bell, Bibb, DeVoe. Johnny get woo, woo, woo. Big Johnny. Man, Big Johnny. Man, they ain't fucking with Johnny, though. They ain't messing with Johnny.

No. So he was never going to be accepted. It was always going to be Clay. It's the same thing with LeBron. LeBron can win five titles. LeBron is never going to be bigger than Kobe. Never going to be bigger than Magic. Never going to be bigger than

Shaq. It's just not. And even though Shaq didn't originate there. But those other two? Yeah. Magic and Kobe? I don't care who come. You're not going to be bigger than them.

Beloved. It is what it is, Ocho. You're right. It is what it is. It's just like you in Cincinnati. Somebody else come in and they might put up great numbers. Nah, but guess what? Ocho, we drafted Ocho.

We drafted Chase. It is what it is. Yeah. But hopefully KD gets somewhere, because he's still giving you 26 a night. So if you put him somewhere where he ain't got to do, you know, the dirty work, you know. No, that ain't him. Defending a tough guy, let him freelance, man.

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We should have beat each other, but whatever. We should have. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. I just... This is the perfect time for you and Unc. I know we have a lot of Heath fans that are watching, and you and Unc said that Atlanta we have a lot of Heat fans that are watching and you and Unk said that Atlanta Hawks were going to beat us.

So, I mean, you can take it upon yourself, you know, to issue an apology, not just to me, but to the rest of the Heat Nation out there. Because you did say

we was going to lose and it didn't happen. Did we make a bet? Did we bet? Nah, nah. But you forgot? You thought we bet it? Yeah, I could have? Did we bet? Nah, nah. You forgot? You thought we bet it? Yeah, I could have swore we bet. I thought we bet something. I'm not

sure. Nah, I see how you all are. $5,200. I'm like, I ain't going to get in that mess. I'm going to stay out your way. Okay. Yeah, don't pay it. Yeah. Don't pay it. Yeah. I see what's going on. Yeah. This man got a Shakespearean theater play in my face,

and he'll tell you when somebody pay him his money. Matter of fact, I just, I ain't get a chance to, I ain't show you, my truck I just got on. What truck? Man, I know we got it. Hey, I know anybody back there got a picture of the truck on so we can see it. There you go, right there.

You see it? You see what it says? That's yours. Yeah, you see what it says in the window? What a little clip. What a little. I'm going to tear your ass up. That's what's in the window.

Nah. You know, when you get the truck, you see it right there? See what that say? Congratulations. What does it say? Congratulations, Chad Johnson. That's me. That's me that's me you happy for me

man y'all see how this man doing nah but listen this man just this man just buying stuff he said

2025 he living for himself he said hey Joe I ain't done nothing nice for myself in years man

I ain't done and so you man this year 2025 I really decided to treat myself and I'm just I feel good because most of the time I'm rarely on the receiving end I'm always the one giving people tell you

well give me my money huh what's next what you get next I know you finna get something else casket Give me my money. Huh? What's next? What you get next? I know you finna get something else. Casket. A what? A what?

A casket. That's what's next. You want that marble joint? No, Joe. You gonna pay me my money, man. I promise you. I promise you. All right, listen. I promise you. I promise you. All right, listen.

I promise you. I got my Cybertruck. I got my Lambo. I bought the new house. I'm good. You know, let me finish the pool in the back. When I finish the pool. Joe, what kind of bush Hey

Hey Ocho You gotta chill Hey No but my kids like to swim I'm trying to teach my daughter to swim Let me finish the pool Give my daughter lessons I got you

What about my kids They like stuff too yeah your kids growing up they good my daughter's only three oh lord how mercy this man Joe

I think you good listen Joe I done told him many times download apple pay it's on your phone cash app venmo paypal any of these apps to make the transaction easy he's refusing to do that he's refusing to do so i don't understand listen he he he just got a dog right he sent the lady a wire in advance so he sent a wire which lets me advance. So he sent a wire, which lets me know that you can do a transaction.

So the same way you sent that wire, I could wire you a 5,200, but he don't want that. He want cash. I don't carry cash. Hey, look at my dog. What up, Titus? How much you weigh, man?

173. God damn! Hey, you 173 for real? Yeah. Man, he... Ocho, first, oh, Ocho, first of all,

Shelly sent, Shelly sent the wire. I don't have the wire. I don't, I don't know how to do that. I don't do that. I don't. All right. What's Shelly information?

I'll send it, I'll send it to Shelly. No, this, this is, this is a transaction between you and I. You see, you see Joe,

you see how he being, see how he being difficult. You see what I mean? This, this is, this is why we are where we are. The last time, let me tell you why I stopped sending wires. I bought some tires.

And I don't know if I made a mistake or the bank made a mistake. Right. But it was supposed to be $2,500 and $25,000 went out. So I don't know if I made the mistake or they made the mistake. Huh? Serious? Yes. You got some money back, right? Yeah.

Okay. But I was done after that. I haven't sent out another Y since. Yeah. I ain't got no apps. I ain't got nothing. Yeah. Okay, I got you. I got you. I got you. Baltimore show. I want everybody in Baltimore to watch me. Man, that's two months away.

You've been on, bro, you've been on, hold on, you've been on me since February, March, April, May, so I got to wait five months? You. I got to pay child support what did I gotta do I'm gonna tell you like my girl asked her mom the babysitter kids.

One time. Talk to me. You know, she told her, um, take it. We wanted to go out. She said,

you F for that one. You watch it. You F for those kids. I ain't finna worry about your child support. I'm just playing. I know child support, but I'm gonna give you your money though. I ain't finna worry about you with child support, baby. I'm just playing. I ain't on child support, but I'm gonna give you your money, though. I got you. You keep saying you gonna give me my money, but Chad here ain't

giving me my money. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Don't forget that. Link is in five. I got you. I got you. Alright, guys. I don't know if you guys have seen this video. There's a viral video that surfaced today DeMar DeRozan in a sushi

restaurant. DeMar was sitting at a table when a random person shoved a phone in his face with a flashlight on. The prankster uploaded the video and later showed himself in the ambulance. What? I don't know if you've seen it. DeMar DeRozan was sitting at a table with his family,

a little like with his family and some friends. The guy came up, put the phone in his place, talking about DeMar, they're trying to throw me out of the restaurant. DeMar's like, bro, don't walk up on me. And people are like, well, he was just a, you don't, I don't know that. Right. You got the luxury of hindsight, but somebody just walking up on you

and putting a phone in your face bro stop playing people y'all play too much I don't know why I've never seen grown people play so much with people that you don't know at a mall and I'm watching these people

in the Costco not Costco but like Lowe's or Home Depot and they throwing pillows on stuff and they do man will y'all stop playing I'm watching these people in the Costco, not Costco, but like Lowe's or Home Depot, and they throwing pillows on stuff. And the deal is, man, will y'all stop playing? When did grown people start playing so much, Joe? Joe, you and Ocho probably close to the same age, but I don't remember grown things playing when I was coming up. Hey, hey, these young cats out here, they creating content, oh.

They out here creating content and anything that's going to go viral. Somebody put the uhs on him. Somebody put the uhs. Somebody put the uhs on him. He was in the ambulance. That's what he Yeah, he tried to get, but see, now see, they going, oh,

man, no, bro, you come up in that man's face with him with his family and you shove the phone in his face because don't say you didn't know who he was because you didn't do you did that because you knew who it was now if you go to his page it's like he's a comedian like he's a prankster he doing stuff like that okay but when somebody somebody gonna get laid down and then it'll like well he was just playing. I keep telling people, everybody don't play how you play. Right. You know what he's trying to do, huh?

You know he's trying to get a quick buck. You know he's trying to get a quick buck. Because DeMar didn't touch him. DeMar didn't touch him hard enough to do anything that bad where you got to be inside the ambulance. You know what? Hey, I feel threatened. I feel threatened. That's his defense what? Hey, I feel threatened. I feel threatened.

That's his defense? DeMar? I feel threatened? Yeah. It should work. It should work. Hey, Stu B. Graham, when you play a Stu B.

game, you win Stu B. prizes. Yes, sir. But y'all got fans. He's not a fan. He's not a fan. So let me take that back. Fans, y'all got to understand.

At the end of the day, see, y'all quick to say money don't make you better. But y'all do things and then think money should. No, I'm a human being. You would get upset. Stop saying it. If I made this, if I made that, no, you wouldn't. It's easy to say what you would do because you're not in that situation. Everybody deserves a level of respect.

Stop running up on people doing this stuff. I ain't talking about fans. Y'all got to understand. They don't know you like that. Y'all grabbing people by the shoulder. Hey, hey, bro, stop that. You know what it's funny. And if athletes don't know you, at least approach them the right way

in a respectful manner. Approach them as if they don't know you. You try to walk up on somebody just because you recognize them, they don't know you. Yeah, right. Yeah, so it's a way to do things. It's a way to do things.

You know, if it was me, if you didn't know me and I saw you, honk, and I saw you out, you know, I understand it. was me if you didn't know me and i saw you honk and i saw you out you know i understand it listen i'm mr sharp i would probably never see you again you know and i just want to take this opportunity to say i'm a fan of yours if you take a picture if you sign if not i understand because it's your personal time and i don't invade your space but if you would do me the graces of just giving me a signature and giving me a picture, now I get out your way. If you say no, I'm still going to be a fan.

That's a smart thing. Yes. Ocho, I'm in the airport, me and Jordan walking. Dude come put his arm around me. Talk about let's get a selfie. What you eating? What you eating?

Did you take it? Just on a quick boat. Just on a quick boat. Just on a quick boat. You got him up all for you? I'm like, bro, come on now. Oh, I do? Oh, you got

to take a picture with me? I said, don't gotta do anything right i said but if you ask nicely in a respectful manner i'll take a picture with you stop this i got to oh you hey and please please i'll take a picture if i'm in if i'm not in a hurry i'm not running late i'm gonna take a picture but i'm not gonna sit there while you call somebody and we get on the phone. Guess who? Look who it is. Look who it is. I got a pop phone.

That's the worst. That's the worst. That's the worst. You know, you already didn't want to stop, but now you're trying to sit here and make a whole phone call. And you want me to sit here and talk to somebody who I have no idea who this is. I don't even know you. I told them even less than I know you. At least you started here.

You're going to do it yourself. Yeah, my favorite, can you make a video from a family member? They a fan of yours. So they knew, hey, guess what? I'm going to the airport.

I normally see Ocho today, so I'm going to have him when I see him, I'm going to have him make a video and tell you, give you a shout out, happy birthday.

I'm a little bit more lenient, you know, Joe, because I'm very to have it when I see it. I'm going to have to make a video and tell you, give you a shout out, happy birthday. I'm a little bit more lenient, you know, Joe, because I'm very sociable. You know, places, I don't go out often, but when I go places, I'd be ready.

When you come up to me, and I'm sure some people, it might be people in the chat that have seen me in public somewhere, but I sit there and hug you and act like I've known you 30 years. Yeah. I hold a conversation. I'm a little different. I known you 30 years. Yeah. I hold a conversation.

I'm a little different. I know you don't play that. I don't play that. Ocho, I be sitting at the table about to eat. I fist bump you. Hey, bro, I want to shake your hand. No, bro. I'm about to eat.

I'm about to eat. I don't mind taking, like I said, if I'm not in a hurry. Right. Man, yesterday I was at the wrong gate. I was at gate 20. My gate is at 135. I'm in the international. Right.

I was like, I come after the lady, can you get a cart? Oh, Lord have mercy. Ain't no cart, Ocho. You had to book it? I got to book it. Now, rest your soul, I'm sweating like Michael Jackson before the verdict is read. I'm sweating, you know what I'm saying? It's pouring off me.

I got my bag, Ocho. Man, you know, my hips bad, my knee bad. I got to walk a mile. They tell me it's the final call. The lady, is that you, Mr. Sharp? Yeah, that's me. You better hurry. We about to close the door.

Yeah. Boy, you would have been mad. You was one way from back down there. Hey, can we get a picture together? I said, bro, you think I'm about to miss the plant to take a picture with you? I said, you but, hey. Hey. I can only imagine.

I said, Lord have mercy. Listen, look, it's a once in a lifetime thing. They probably ain't going to never run into you again. That's how you feel. That's shit. I got to get him. Joe, I had already missed one flight. I had already missed the flight okay okay

dealing with la traffic it's supposed to be on the 330 i get there at 4 at 320 oh man so i would miss that flight okay i'm sitting down there like you know i've been i've been in the club you know i'm like eating some chicken i need some adobe chicken. You know, they got some cornbread. I eat up there. I look up like, damn, I better go, you know. So I hop out. I'm like, oh, there ain't no one right around the corner.

This ain't nothing, me. Man, I get to gate 20. I get to the lady on my phone. She's like, sir, what flight are you trying to go? I said, I'm going to Vegas. She said, honey, this going to Salt Lake City. I'm like, sir, what flight are you trying to go? I said, I'm going to Vegas. She said, honey, this is going to Salt Lake City. I said, oh, Lord, Salt Lake City.

I said, so, ma'am, if you don't mind me asking, what a flight to Las Vegas. She got a little thing. She like, oh, it's at 135. I said, how far is that? She said, son, it's in the International. I said, well, how far is that? She said, son, it's in the international. I said, well, how far is that? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

It was stressful for you, wasn't it? I already know. Oh, man. I already know. Now, mind you, did the interview, had an interview yesterday with, I can't tell you who it is. Great dog. We had a great time. She'll talk.

I will tell you that. She can talk. So now, I'm supposed to get to the airport at a certain time. Traffic. Oh! Now, I'm already late. We got night count. Now, if I don't get this flight.

I'm going to took the show. I'm going to took the show. I got you. Yeah. Back to the hotel. I got to go. Jordan already. Jordan asked.

He already. Shelly blowing my phone up. Jordan's on the flight. He said he hadn't seen you. Well, I hadn't seen him either. Well, he should have called me. They came and got me. Hey, that's why if you ever fly private, you'll really, really

appreciate it. Because you know what it's like going to the airport. You know how stressful it is. Yes. I ain't got private money. I got public money. That's why I fly public airlines. Right, right. Oh, yo, you be flying private?

Nah, every blue moon, Ocho. I got to have something real important to do. Okay. What'd that run you? I don't mean to be in your pockets. I'm not trying to count you, man. I'm just asking what that run you. It's all about how far you going.

Yeah, yeah, depending on where you going. And what type of jet you getting on, what you on? Okay. You on a Citation? You a Bombardier? You on a G6? G5? 4? What you on? What a bombardier? You want a G6? G5? 4?

What you own? What's the lower G it go to? 1? I mean, you probably, I mean, it probably start about what?

I'll probably say around 5, 5 an hour and probably go up to 20 an hour. 20 who? 20K. There you go. You get expensive,

Ocho. I'm good. I'll leave that to the CEOs, boy. You ain't, Ojo. I'm good. I'll leave that to the CEOs, boy. You ain't got to tell me nothing. Like I said, hey, it's got to be very, very, very, very, very. And especially, as a matter of fact, whatever you're spending, right, the flat private and whatever it is that's important, if the reason for going where you got to go of importance is about making that money back, then I could see it.

I could see it. I could understand. But I hate Ocho. Boy, I hate cutting that check because you got to wire that money and you wire $80,000. $80,000 who? And even if you wire $,000 Even if you make 150, 200 You be thinking like Man I could've flown Delta

That'd be 2,000 That's how I be That's how I be thinking Oh dude Hey Shelly B. Shelly You wanna fly No I do not

Wanna fly private I do not Listen I can get you I can get you from the East Coast West Coast Or Spirit

You know for $180 We talk about come on man i mean it's not the west coast 180 bucks yeah joe come on over here to spirit with me now exit row c13a they'll take care i got i got two million miles on delta i'm good i like delta all right i mean i'm right on delta i got yay them peach hey they nice because you know joey hey you get to leave when you want to leave hey would you like food they have whatever you want you want popeyes whatever the case you want they have a nice prepared meal you want seafood i can do everything you name it right now. I can show up to the airport early with everything you name it in hand and get on my spirit flight. Everything.

I ain't got it. I ain't got it like that. I just can't see that money going like that. It's hard to see it. It's hard to see it leading the camera. You what? And then you think about it. You be sick like, ooh, damn. Think about what you could have done with about it, you'd be sick like,

damn. I could have just like, there you go. There you go. There you go. There you go. And so I was like, nah, I'm good.

Hey, I just, hey, I have to take this whole bad knee and walk through the airport, pretty soon your boy gonna have to be on that cart. So,

hey, Chad, when y'all see your boy on the cart, don't tell me, hey, man, I saw Unk. I saw Unk on the cart. You damn sure did. That was me. Because I'm about to be sitting my ass up on the cart. Well, you know, it's funny. You got a bad knee. You got bad hips.

You can get the wheelchair. You ain't got to stand in line. Nah, I ain't gonna do the wheelchair now. Yeah. Man, I'll tell y'all a story, man. I went to pick up my mom from the airport. My mom didn't tell me she had broke a foot. So I'm driving around the airport.

I say, Mama, where are you? She said, I'm right here. I done drove around the airport about five times. My mama sitting there asking in a wheelchair. She said, why didn't you tell me you broke? I said, how was I supposed to know? I wasn't sitting her ass in a wheelchair. She said, why'd you tell me you broke up? So how was I supposed to know? I wasn't looking for somebody

in a wheelchair, mama. My mama sitting in the wheelchair. I done drove around the airport about five times. And Joe, you know how it is driving around Atlanta airport.

That thing crazy. Oh, yeah. Man. This is... That was the last... Actually, that was the last time i picked up somebody from the airport i'm gonna send a car for you yeah it's rough around here

going to the airport this is the busiest airport in probably the country yeah yeah i mean first of all i'm mad all first of all i gotta go pick somebody up at airport what i'm really mad about is the hour and a half traffic that i had to get through just to get my ass to the airport. And the hour and a half back to get from the airport. So, you come see me. I'll see you when you get to your destination. That's what I'll see you. I'm not coming to pick you up.

I'm just going to tell you now. My kids know, hey, when they come see me in L.A., car service to pick you up. I'm just going to tell you now. My kids know, hey, when they come see me in LA, car service, pick them up. When they come see me in, I got you. That is because I'm moody. I'm beautiful. No, that's true. LA.

And then Ash walked like she in a parade. Okay. Hey, you know what we do? we do joy we leave adogia but this joker right here jordan oh joe joe if you ever fly with jordan just go ahead and tell him you're gonna meet him at the hotel this joe will help everybody get their bag off. I look back there. He's taking bag mail. Is this your bag mail? I'm like, Jordan!

That ain't your job? Hey, I said, hey, okay. Don't be in that trunk. Don't be in the trunk when I get here. You left. You got to catch a cab, huh? Uber.

Yeah, I'll reimburse it. You want to work for the airline and take everybody's baggage out? I got you. Don't worry about it. Okay. This is a subject, Ocho, that's near and dear to your heart. To mine? okay this is a subject oh cho that's near and dear to your heart to mine tracy ellis ross says she only dates younger men because of the toxic masculinity masculinity in men her age

a lot of men my age are steeped in toxic masculinity and have been raised in a culture where there is a particular way that relationships look. Anything that started to smell of that with me, I did enough or where I was controlled and felt like I was a possession or a prize, I just have no interest in it and I will not do it again. So she doesn't want to feel like a possession or a prize, but you're going to date younger men. So she can feel like a possession or a prize. Prize.

I mean, it would be the same thing. But I don't understand. What I will say is as an older woman like Miss Ross, I think she also has more control dealing with the younger fellas anyway.

Yeah. She has more control. But what, hold on. But what they say about when Unc say he want to date younger men. They kill me.

What they say, what the women, what, yeah, what I say I want to date younger men. They killed me. What they said, what the women, what, yeah, what I said, I want to date younger women. What I said? What I want to date,

what I want to date, what I want to date younger women, what they say, Ocho, oh, I'm a creep. Oh, I'm,

I'm a, what, what, what they call that? What they call that when a, when a, when a man, like,

I'm grooming like I'm grooming I'm grooming that's the term they use when they grooming when she talk about dating younger men Joe what they say go ahead girl

that's what I'm talking about yeah I mean it's different why is it different I don't know they just they see it different they view it differently

I mean I don't know you know it's called girl math and girl math is not for us as men to understand but listen i think it happens all the time although older men love dating younger women older women love dating younger men it's been that it's been like that for a very long time listen to each their own i don't yeah i think when it comes to to women dating younger men, they're able to control them a little bit more.

They're able to get them to do what they want to do as opposed to dating men their age where there's not much they can get away with because men their age really don't play the games that they want to play. They're able to manipulate the younger men all the time.

But here's the thing though, Joe, what people don't understand. She's Tracy Ellis Ross. And she's 52. She's a celebrity. She's an entertainer. She has money. Now, all y'all that's out there in y'all 50s and 60s or 40s and think y'all going to get you a 20-year-old, 25, 30-year-old, come on now. You're saying she got the means to do that yeah she can play

listen when you got money like that she can play the game the way she want to right but all my thing my thing is if i said i'll be you don't you we've had this conversation joe you've never been a part of this but don't you and i we've had this conversation i'll say you know, hey, 30-year-old, 35, let me up the phone. Man, you need to get you somebody your age. Why? So you don't want nothing to hold but a bankroll. Hey, so what we going to do? Get on that little bus together so they can take us to the doctor's appointment? Together?

No, I want somebody to drive me to my appointment. Let me get out of the front, go park the car, and come in there and join me. That's what I'm looking for. Hey, you said a woman your age, she can't keep up, can she, dog? Huh? A woman your age can't keep up with you? She can keep up.

I ain't got, boy, I got two in the possible, Joe. I got a spade. I got spade wood. Two in the possible. And they might be cutting it. I got a bunch of A's. I got the A's, but I got a bunch of diamonds in my hand. So they might be cutting off the rip. I'm telling you that, A, that's all I got for you. That's all I got for you.

All that, no, no, no. I ain't nothing but no guy. A, I ain't fed a lot to him. Oh, girl, I'm going to kick you. Oh, I'm going to tear you up all night long. No, I'm not. I'm going to tear you up all night long. No, I'm not. I'm going to be sleeping all night long. Hey, but you know what?

But Ms. Ross can get away with that. Obviously, other women can get away with it as well. But Ms. Ross is in a position of power. Not many women are in a position like she is where she can correct who she wants to deal with regardless i got no problem with it though oh joe yeah i'm just you and i we're having a conversation i ain't got no problem with it i don't got no problem with whoever you date i don't care how old they are if they're legal if they 19 and you 40 that is a legal consenting age i ain't got nothing to do with that i don't care what people doing at homes but i'm just saying the hypocrisy of older women dating younger men versus older men dating younger

women right and the first thing when it comes to men dating younger women the first thing you're gonna say y'all ain't got nothing in common y'all ain't got nothing in common what do y'all have in common for you talking what they got in common i don't know i don't know that's a good thing that's a good question but again listen when you're in a position like miss ross you you can do that you get to pick and choose who you want you don't have to deal most of the time and women are in situations where they actually need a man they need a man. They need a man. She's in the business. Well, I don't need you.

I actually want you. Yes. Everybody. I think after you get to a certain age, it's like, okay, what am I willing to deal with? Like you say, she don't want to deal with a man that has a certain, you know, hey, if you 55, 50, 55, 60, you grew up in an era. It was a certain way, Joe. You know, your mom and dad things worked a certain way. Grandpa, grandma, it worked a certain way.

Now it's gotten a little. And so now these men, now women, now they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, ain't no staying at home cooking. Ain't no staying. Hey, if I don't go out, you can't go out. Women say, you want to go? Oh, I'm going. I don't remember a time.

Well, when my grandmother, when my grandfather didn't go, my grandmother wasn't going. Yeah, my grandmother wasn't going. My grandfather wasn't going. Be it church, fishing, the grocery store, it didn't matter. Now, women like, oh, I go with my girls. Mm-mm. I don't care how you look. I don't want to go.

I don't care. I ain't got no problem with that. I have never been one of those guys where you can't go out or you can't wear that out. Right. If you wore that when I met you, keep it going. Right. Right. That's how you got to be, Ocho.

Yeah. I don't know, Ocho. You don't like that, huh? Who? If you meet, let's just say for the sake of argument, you meet somebody and she wearing something, she wearing something revealing. Right. She get with you.

You're going to make her stop wearing it? Or are you going to like, okay, baby, hey, I met you when you were wearing this. Keep it going. No, I'm not like that. You know, I don't run no prison. I don't run no prison. I'm not a warden. And obviously, if I'm talking to somebody and she's wearing something revealing,

I doubt I would even take someone like that serious. So I really wouldn't be in that situation to begin with. I would. So you see somebody at the beach and she got that one piece or she got that two piece and that big catacomb in her boonk. Right. You ain't going to take her serious. Yeah, for fun. And she got that one piece, or she got that two piece and that big catacomb in her boonk. Right. You ain't going to take her serious?

Yeah, for fun. Gee, that's what I'm looking for. That's what I'm looking for. Come on over here. Okay, okay, I understand what you mean. Yeah, for fun. For fun. I mean, especially at the- Well, damn, what you want a girl with an army skirt on?

No. No, but for fun. There's a certain way to dress without having to reveal every goddamn thing. Give me at least something for the imagination. If you got it all hanging out already, I mean, okay, that lets me know, okay, that right there, that's for fun.

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now on Audible. You know that, come on. I mean, I just, I just, I just like looking. Whatever, whatever they're advertising, once you get that, what's left after that? There's a reason they're advertising it. It's to get attention. Outside of that, what's left? I'm just asking.

Outside of that, what's left? All right. Once you get it. I'm just asking, Joey. Am I tripping or am I wrong? No, man, you ain't tripping. Okay. I don't know. I've just been in the game for seven years.

I guess I'm out here on the island by myself. I just like looking. I just, you know, I can't buy the car. I just like, sometimes I go to the dealership and just look at them. I like looking, too. I like looking too. I like looking. We all like it. Is that a form of cheating? If you're looking,

they say people get three to five for staring. Is that a form of cheating? No, no, no, no, no. Nah, nah, nah, nah. But here's the thing though. Now you with your lady, nice girl walk by. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But here's the thing, though. Here's the thing. Now you with your lady, nice girl walk by. Do you acknowledge that she's nice or you pretend like you didn't see it?

The funny thing, if I'm with my girl, right, she going to see it before I do and tap me. She going to say something? Yeah, she going to say something. Man, look at that. What? Oh, she got some ass, don't she? Yeah, she gonna say something. Man, look at that. What? Ooh, she got some ass, don't she? Yeah, she do. Yeah.

You gotta pretend. Ooh, what's that? I don't peep. I saw. I saw way before you did. I saw 10 minutes earlier. I didn't say nothing. I saw exactly.

You know what I mean? You don't cut your head this way, it start tingling. But I pretend like, who's she at? Oh, yeah, she okay. Good Lord of mercy. Hey.

One thing, hey, this is, oh my goodness, boy. Yeah, you just gotta pretend like you don't see it. Oh, you like that? Oh, you like that, huh? Nah. I don't like that. I like the way, hey, I like the way your booty drag the ground. That's what I like that, huh? Nah. I don't like that. I like the way, hey, I like the way your booty

dragged the ground. That's what I like. You know what I'm saying? I don't like that working, sitting up on his shoulders. Out with you, baby. Mm-hmm. You got to make a feel.

You got, hey, Ocho, you got to be, uh, uh. You got to be careful the way you answer them. Hype man. You got to be a hype man.

You know this, you got to be a hype man. Damn, this. You got to be a hype man. Damn, baby, that look good. Yeah. Oh, boo. Okay. Now you doing it, baby. Oh, hey.

That's what I'm talking about. I done turned into a hype man, Ocho. I didn't know. I mean, we have to hype. You know, you're like, yeah, baby, you look good today. Yeah. Every day. Yeah.

All day. Yeah. Reassurance. Reassurance is very important good today. Yeah. Every day. Yeah. All day. Yeah. Reassurance. Reassurance is very important in today's era. Very important. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I ain't got no problem with it. I mean, when your boy, when your boy step out there and he got a little something, I go and tell him, you know, hey, you look nice, baby. Okay. Okay.

You know, I like a little affirmation too. I like to be told that, hey, okay, you put that on. I like a little affirmation too I like to be told that hey okay you put that on I like that daddy yeah I like it I like it

I like get 5200 I can get me a nice little outfit to go to Green Bay do this draft I get that 5200 right clean matter of fact I'm not even wearing I'm not even wearing an outfit to the draft for Green Bay, but I'm wearing a Sterling Sharp jersey. Yeah, I got an authentic Sterling Sharp jersey.

It's going to be 44 degrees, Ocho. I'm going to put on my... Wait, OB outside? No, we're in the atrium. Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. I like the cold now. I ain't got no problem with that. Okay. I got my...

Huh? Florida boy like the cold? Oh, man. Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about. Being in Cincinnati, coming from Miami, where it's always hot, we get a cold front every blue moon. For some reason, I grew an appreciation for the cold, and I couldn't wait till we get to November, December, and we get, what,

Joe, we get about 40 to 30 degrees, man, I'm out there practicing with no sleeves on, running around, having a ball, everybody else standing by the heater. I'm out there doing, I don't, I just love the cold. What y'all be off of on them cold

games, man? What you be off of? You gotta be off on. Red Bull or something. No, no, no. I just put the Vaseline on my sleeves, and I just go, I'm good. What the Vaseline do? Keep the heat in. Yeah, keep the heat in a little bit. And, you know, the benches are already heated.

Then, you know, I got my heat, what's it called, the heat warmers on. Oh, yeah, you got those packs. Yeah, I got the packs. I got the warm packs. Got the warmers. Yeah, the hand warmers on? Oh, yeah. You got those packs. Yeah, I got the packs. I got the warm packs. Got the warmers. Yeah, the hand warmers. And any time there's a TV timeout, I always run.

I always run to the heater, warm up a little bit, and I watch the man with the orange gloves. When I see him do like that, I just run back out to the field. Nah, I ain't like that. Woo. No.

Mm-mm. I don't like the cold. I do. And it'd be cold out there, y'all. I mean, two places I played would get cold. Denver and Baltimore. Yeah. And Denver, it'd get really, really, really.

I'm talking about 10 and 20 at practice. Yeah. I wasn't out there with no sleeves. Sunday, I'm going to be out there with no sleeves.

Yeah. During the week, I'll be warm. For sure. And you know, the offensive linemen, they got no sleeves and they in shorts.

Mm-hmm. Wish y'all the best. All right, we're going to get you out of here on this when it's time for our final segment of the evening it's time for Q and A

Kemper Norwood Jr said I'm rolling with the Lakers until the wheels fall off Lakers in five well we all one of them done came off Kemper let's just hope the other one don't come off the Dabs Smith said No. Lakers in five. Well, we all, hey, one of them done came off, Kemper. Let's just hope the other one don't come off.

The Dabs miss it up. I told you the Wolves are not long in their bench. It's way better. And I knew if Naz Reed is the key to the series, I got this series going six or seven, but game two is important for the Lakers. Absolutely is. It's an absolute must.

It's an absolute must. Absolute. Naz Reed did what he was supposed to do. He won sixth man of the year last year for this very reason, for the performance that he gave the Wolves tonight. Oreo Hulim said, JJ Redick, JJ Fish, JJ from Good Times, Ant-Man and Five.

Alright, Oreo, y'all bragging. See? Okay. Okay, dog. What's up, Hunkanocho? If the Timberwolves take game two, will it be time for the Lakers to panic? Mm-hmm. Of course. Yeah. Yeah.

Because if Minnesota go up 2-0, they looking to bring their broom out. They ain't looking to come back. Exactly. Red Hood said Lakers at five. Be careful what you might say. Might need a broom. I'm smelling sweet. Red, it ain't gonna happen. RJ Copan, Salt Shakers,

Shaker Bakers, LBJ is a goat baker. Lakers lose at five. RJ. Okay, so y'all do it all that time i knew this was gonna happen i knew it was gonna happen at some point lake of lou y'all gonna be talking to crazy but okay make sure y'all show up monday night now jay dub from akron oh why don't y'all always trying to bet your guests no he ain't paid you or me. When you run up and get your five bands. Snatch that jersey for me. Yeah, Ocho, you know.

Hey, J-Dub. You didn't get that man a jersey, Ocho. Who? J-Dub. Oh, J-Dub. I thought you were supposed to say. I thought you were supposed to say. Ask the information so I can send the jersey.

She done sent it to her. J-Dub, we done sent, we relayed that information to the proper channels. Ocho has it. So you ain't finna put that on us.

Okay, okay, okay. Matter of fact, we might have to do it because the proper channels ain't really the proper channels no more. Oh, okay. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy said,

hey, Fab, overall, which team made the biggest statement tonight and who should be worried most after game one? Lakers. They're the only team that lost on their home court.

Yeah. Series doesn't start until the world team wins. And the T-Wolves got off to a great start. They've already won. So the biggest statement or the greatest impression made was made by the T-Wolves in the final game tonight. Wasn't even close. Big I, what's up, R.B. Joe? What do you do at the Lakers?

What do the Lakers got to do to win game two to avoid a 2-0? Play with some damn intensity. True. Yeah. Probably more of a sense of urgency. Yeah, man, their energy just wasn't there. Like I said, I just felt the Timberwolves were very desperate. They played desperate.

And they played like a team who came in there to get a win. They came with a purpose. Absolutely. Absolutely. They didn't back down that one bit. They attacked the Lakers all night long, man. Like I said, McDaniels and Reed going to play like that? Lakers ain't got a chance of beating I said, McDaniels and Reed going to play like that?

Lakers ain't got a chance of beating the Wolves. 10-17 boogie. Luka, Paducah, Bazooka. Wolves in five. DeJuan Hines, procrastination, condensation, relaxation. Lakers about to be on vacation. Okay, DeJuan. Y'all talking real reckless. Y'all talking real reckless.

Y'all talking real reckless. Kingsaw 1-2-3. Not my best day as a sports fan. CM Punk lost. The Lakers lost. Damn. CM Punk lost. Damn.

I ain't happy about that. I'm more disappointed the Lakers lost than CM. I'm more disappointed Lakers lost to see him. I'm sorry, guys. There's zero chance OKC would consider taking KD back. The ownership despises him. I don't know about that. I mean, I'm assuming that you live in OKC and you probably heard something, but I don't know. I'm not so sure Kevin Durant.

That's just us talking. There's nothing that's ever been said. Kevin Durant has never mentioned anything. I know he enjoyed his time while he was there, but he probably hadn't been back since he left, so probably not a great chance of him going back.

Kevin Schweibelhofer, could you see Ant-Man teaming up with Wimby later in their career? And would D-Rose be a top three all-time point guard if he didn't get injured? Ooh, man.

That's a good one. What you think? This is your level of expertise, Joe. Yeah, D. Rose, man. I mean, he's the youngest MVP, right? Yes. He was the youngest MVP ever. Like I said, I've got a chance to play against him in playoff series.

And he was special, man. He was probably the most athletic guard. He was the most athletic point guard. Because now you see Russ, you see Russ, you see Ja, all these athletic point guards. He was the first. Man. That was the first. Man. That was a tough matchup.

Yeah, he definitely, I think he definitely would have been, you know, at least top five, you know, point guards able to play. He just played with so much torque that it seemed as though his body just kind of gave out, man. But he was special, bro. He was special. Gracie Q, Titus about to go collect his dad's money. He's bigger than Ocho, so

it'll be easy. Yeah, I'm gonna send Titus down there with you to get my money, Ocho. I told you I'm gonna pay you after I finish the pool, huh? Where old folk don't never have no patience. Patience is a virtue. It's in the Bible.

I'm going to let you finish doing what you need to do with my money, and then once you... What I'm doing, what I'm spending, ain't got nothing to do with your money. Your $5,200 is off to the side. Well, go ahead and send it to me.

I'm going and send it to him I'ma send it I'll figure out a way What about bringing it to Green Bay? How about Green Bay? You'll see me in five days Okay, I'ma bring it to Green Bay Thank you What'd you say, Joe? You want it in cash?

Cash money See, I don't carry cash That make me feel like what'd you say Joe? you wanted in cash? cash money see I don't I don't carry cash that make me feel like when I have cash like that it make me feel irresponsible hey man don't worry about it

you should feel irresponsible that you hadn't paid me no because as long as I owe you you'll never go broke I'm broke right now. I need that. Nelson Black said, my cousin is getting married July 12th, and I'm on the wedding, and your show is

in Charlotte July 12th. And I got the meet and greet ticket, so don't judge me if your boy late and come in with a tux. Nelson, come in. We like the church. Come as you are. You know what I'm saying? We don't judge. We don't judge.

Now, my grandma didn't take that serious because you was not going up in that church looking any kind of high. All they said, but God said, come as you are.

Mayor Porter didn't say that. What's up? Not having that. Hey, yeah, Nelson, the Charlotte meet and greet tickets are sold out. So thank you.

We appreciate that. But come on in there. Come on in that thing. Franklin status for the chemistry y'all have. My wife, Christine Franklin, nursing student, is turning 41 on the 25th. My son, Christian Franklin, student-athlete, is turning 17, 29th. A shout-out would be appreciated. Christine Franklin? Kristen Franklin?

Dad wants y'all to know he's very proud of you guys and all of your accomplishments. Wifey, a nursing student. Congratulations. Son, I know you're going to do big things, so I ain't even worried about you, but your dad just wanted to know, wife, he wanted you to know that he's proud of you guys. Congratulations.

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