Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Micah Parsons responds to haters + Bobby Portis suspended

Episode Date: February 21, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react Bobby Portis being suspended from NBA for banned painkiller, Micah Parsons responding to criticisms over his podcast, and much more!06:15 ...- Bobby Portis suspension28:27 - Micah Parsons on his podcast33:30 - NFL Teams at HBCU Combine37:10 - Pregnant lady at Drake’s concert40:24 - Boyfriend gets refund for nails52:55 - Q & Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:07:17 During that time, I made an honest mistake and took a pain-reducing anti-inflammatory pill that is not approved. I feel terrible. I recognize that I'm responsible for what I put in my body. Porter took painkiller unintentionally, said his agent. Porter thought he was taking Toradol, which you can get it in a pill form or the injectable, because I know I've got plenty of them shots in my butt, was proved he was taking. Porter didn't realize that he was taking Tramadol, which was properly prescribed,
Starting point is 00:07:48 but is on the NBA's banned substance list. Doc Rivers said he believed the punishment shouldn't be so severe given the circumstances. I mean, given the circumstances, obviously, as a player, you got to know what you're putting in your body. Obviously, don't you have people that you talk to before you even get any type of prescriptions? you know this i mean this they got so they got the resources the
Starting point is 00:08:10 you know the team can give you that yeah the team can give you that whatever it is you need you have somebody if they if we had it when i was playing i know they i know good and well they got it now hey you go to the head trainer hey listen my listen, my elbow, man, it's bothering me. It's swelling up on me. Can you get something for me? Mm-hmm. Can you give me something? So, I mean, it's kind of hard to believe.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Like, how do you not know? How do you not know? Because if you need anything, everything you need is right there in-house. You ain't got to go outside for that. Man, y'all be talking about, yes. Guys, when you take a Toradol, and it's basically like, it's a pain
Starting point is 00:08:51 medication, but boy, you feel so good. I mean, I'm like, I ain't smoking a weed, and I don't know what it's like, but you feel like, boy, you feel invisible. Now, you feel like your ass got beat with a bat once you get done with that game. Once it go down, yeah. But you get an injection in your
Starting point is 00:09:08 butt. And so that's what y'all take everything, y'all try to make everything sexual. I question a lot of you guys. No, no, seriously, Ocho. A lot of these guys, I really question them because they so consumed with that kind of stuff. I'm like, damn, this is the way we talk.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I mean, like I said, I don't know what's in the locker room. Ocho, I've been removed 20 years from the locker room. So I don't know why it is now. But when we talk, like, hey, man, hey, you got that? Yeah. You got that shot? You got that shot in the butt? I mean, Ocho used to be a line.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah. It wasn't a one or two. It was a line to get that. I ain't never taken a pill like I said I know there is a pill but I didn't take it give me that shot
Starting point is 00:09:50 I need that thing to work quick I had the pill I had the pill obviously when I tore my labrum I tore my labrum from 6 to 12
Starting point is 00:09:57 but I didn't miss no time and so I wore the harness put the harness on there so you couldn't raise it so I couldn't raise it all the way so I wore the harness
Starting point is 00:10:04 and I took for about maybe 3 weeks I took the toilet I took the pill man I that harness on there so you couldn't raise it. So I couldn't raise it all the way. So I wore the harness and I took, for about maybe three weeks, I took the toilet, I took the pill. Man, I wasn't playing with that needle. Oh, no, sir. If it ain't a tattoo, I'm not doing it.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Oh, no, I'll give you that needle. Because that pill, that pill, it got to digest. It got to, the liver got to break it down. It got to get processed. No, baby.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I need that thing just like that rose spot. Right away, huh? Now, they can put it up under my tongue and it dissolves, I'm going to get that bloodstream. Count your boy here. Count your boy here.
Starting point is 00:10:29 But it wasn't doing that. That shot, that shot getting that bloodstream flat out. Yeah. Oh. And so, look. No, Ocho. I took shots in my butt. I took them in my ribs.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I took them in my ankles. I took them in my shoulders. Oh, man. Hey. Hey. I had to get out there. I had to get it. Mary Porter had to eat. He had to eat. Like I said, and that's the thing to Ocho.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Like you said, they do got... But see the thing is, Ocho, the problem with... We've heard it so much. People lie. Oh, my massage therapist rubbed me down with this cream, and that's how that steroid got in my body. Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:11:09 Somebody, my protein shake, and somebody put this in my body. So now we've become so distrusted, and it could have been an honest mistake, Coach O. In actuality, it could have been an honest mistake. But because people have lied so much and contaminated our thought process, no, hell no. You're going, hey, 25, slap that 25 up on him. Yeah. I mean, but you think about it, I'm just
Starting point is 00:11:33 saying, if there's something wrong with you, the first place you go to is your training room right there in the facility. Right. They get you everything you want. You don't even have to go outside. There's no point. You have every resource have to go outside. There's no point. You have every resource known to man right there. It's the NBA, huh?
Starting point is 00:11:51 Get it. This ain't high school. This ain't your high school basketball team. Remember, what do the pills look like? Is it sugar in a salt situation that you don't know what it is until you taste it? And then by that far, it's too far down. Now me, Ocho, when I got certain supplements, like, hey,
Starting point is 00:12:10 Greek, what you thinking? You know, hey, he's like, Sharpie, let me do some research. Sharpie, it's not on the list, but if I was you, I wouldn't do it. Steve Antonopoulos, we call him Greek. And when I was in Baltimore, John Tessendorf, we call him Big Tess. Like, hey, Tess, what you think?
Starting point is 00:12:26 Well, Sharpie, I think you're good to go. Shoot me straight. Because I'm going to tell them, look, I went to my athletic trainer, and I went to my athletic trainer, and they said we're good to go. So if it's a lie, you need to suspend them. Because I ain't going nowhere. Because I remember when they started, when they dhea on that list guys were taking dhea oh yeah got popped uh-huh you know and they ended up uh uh ephedra uh when the when the guy i don't
Starting point is 00:12:54 know you weren't in the league the time when uh rest his soul core stringer oh the lineman yeah yeah yeah vikings yes they banned ephed You know, guys used to take ephedra because it speeds your heart rate up. You sweat. Ooh, boy, look here. Right. You're talking about dropped seven, eight pounds in a day.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Just like that. Look at you sweat. Yeah, man. But boy, you sweat. Ooh, you're talking about sweating. Right. Like Michael Jackson before the verdict was read.
Starting point is 00:13:22 You sweat like that. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Hey, but no, and like I said, it could have been an honest mistake. Yeah, yeah. But, Ocho, but like you said, with all the resources and you got now,
Starting point is 00:13:41 don't even chance it, guys. Yeah, it's hard. Don't even chance it. Don't even chance it. But I don't know, that's what I'm saying. You said, man, I'm scared of that needle that says tattoo.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Bro, you get, like I said, I don't have no tattoos, so I don't know if it, but I hear, Hold on, hold on, hold on. Wait, you got to understand now. I've seen what the needle look like
Starting point is 00:13:59 when it's time to get that tore, though. And I've seen the needle when I'm getting, listen, I got 43 tattoos. You can't see them, but I got them. Yeah. Yeah, they hard to see, but I got them. And it's a pain that is bearable to me.
Starting point is 00:14:18 It's weird. It's weird. I can sit there. I can sit there for a four or five hour session, but you're not sticking me with that twirl on needle. That ain't happening. Give me that needle. Uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Give me that needle. No, sir. Hey, Ocho, I can't. No. I can't sit there and let you. Now, look, obviously you got fatty tissue in your butt, got muscle. But think about Ocho when they hit that bone in them ankles or they're going through your ribs or they hit that.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Hey, that needle this long and they're going in that shoulder and they got to move it around because they got to get as much medicine in there and in many different areas man please hold on i'm thinking about too now i'm thinking about i'm thinking about tattoos what hurts really bad you don't have any i'm so people in the chat that probably have you get the tattoo on the shin on like right on the bone yeah any uh on the on the inner on the inside like the the inside of the arm like where you use this um you know i have a leg sleeve right yeah on the on the the back the back of the quad or the ham not the quad the back of the hamstring right man oh man listen here, man. Man, listen here, man.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I can't do that, though, Joe. I ain't gonna lie to you. My kids, my son got a tattoo. My daughter got a tattoo. Bro, my daughter got a tattoo against my wishes. Yeah. I took her ass right up there to get it taken off. You serious?
Starting point is 00:15:42 Hell yeah. I heard it. What you doing? You got to let the kids live a little bit. When they get out of my house, they can live all they want to. Spread your wings. But you in my nest. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:15:56 You made your daughter get the tattoo removed? Yeah, I did. You serious? How much was the procedure? Probably about $2,000. Who paid for it? I did. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Oh, she begged the holiday because I could smell the flesh burning. Wasn't me. Daddy! Don't call me daddy. You didn't call me. You didn't say daddy because you want to go get the tattoo after I told you not to. Oh, you told. Oh, see. Okay, okay. You didn't say that you
Starting point is 00:16:26 didn't say that you said you said i thought you you might have told ahead of time listen don't get no tattoos ahead of time don't get no tattoos at all i didn't know nothing about i ain't know nothing about this cream uh i guess there's a cream that you put on it right to help it help it heal right and so And so I was like, she's my girlfriend, like, what is this? I was like, I don't know what it is. Kayla bought this. So she like, you know, Googled it. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Tattoo. So one day, well, don't laugh on Joe. Man, it was about before she went to school. I said Kayla come down I said bring your down here now
Starting point is 00:17:12 so she came down she had her underwear on cause I knew she was gonna try to hide it right I said turn to the side she Kayla stop playing in my face try to hide it. Right. Turn to the side.
Starting point is 00:17:25 She, Kayla, stop playing in my face. You see, I'm like, Ocho, you said, Hey,
Starting point is 00:17:38 did you get mad? Did you curse? Boy, look here, Ocho. I say, you, that's a girl.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I said, Kayla, go upstairs. I said, Kayla, go upstairs. I said, but you know you're going to get that ish off there, right? Hold on, huh? I need better context. She was young, right? She probably was 17, 18. She got a boy name, huh? Kayla.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Oh, wait. You made her get rid of her own name? No She had something Whatever Rihanna had down her rib cage That's what she had So whatever that Y'all know what I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:18:14 Y'all know that tattoo that Rihanna got down her rib cage That's what she got That's nothing bad though What? I mean I told her not to get a tattoo Until she get out the house. Once you get out the house,
Starting point is 00:18:27 you can do whatever you want to do. Do what you want to do. You're not going to blatantly go... Hey, you're too strict, man. You're too strict. It was about 100 degrees. She got a scarf around her neck. Ocho, we neck. Ocho,
Starting point is 00:18:46 we at Houston, and I'm looking at her, I'm like, hold on, maybe it's just me. I said, well, maybe it's cold. I got on, so I'm looking around at everybody in Houston, and I'm looking around, I'm like, well, damn.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I'm just like this at Ocho. What's she got on her neck? I well, damn. I'm just like this, Ocho. What she got on her neck? I said, Kayla, why you got a scarf on? You're like, you know, I'm a little cold. I said, Kayla, it's 100 degrees.
Starting point is 00:19:19 So, again, Ocho, you know me. Girl, take that damn scarf off. You like a damn fool. Ocho, you know me. Girl, take that damn scarf off. You like a damn food. Ocho, she done got this thing right here pierced. I've been going to eat up. Going to eat your food. Hey, hey, Ocho. So, hey, going to eat your food.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Hey. Hey. Hey, if you didn't know better, you'd have thought Kayla was on death row. Man, it took that girl two hours to eat a burger and some fries. Because she don't. Oh, so she don't. Hey. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Don't tell me you made a removed person able one way to do things you not gonna be you not gonna look here you not gonna you running a prison over there man no no no no no no no all I'm no, no, no. All I'm saying is if I tell you not to do something, don't do it. Don't do it.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Hey, but you got me in tears, boy. Hey, when you see her, she going to be able to ask her. She'll tell you, no, my daddy, what y'all see, she going to tell you, daddy, you done lightened up a lot. I didn't play that. Don't play with me like that. Hold on. So you just, you basically just trying my authority.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Okay. Oh, man. Yeah, no. I ain't going back and forth with you. I ain't going back and forth. Hold on. Not the scarf in 100 degree weather. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:04 But, hey, she came down there. Hey, Ocho. Hey. I said, hey, my man. Hey, don't even worry about it. The bill probably was like, it was four of us. No, it was three of us. So the bill probably like, I ain't even get my credit card.
Starting point is 00:21:19 I put $200. I said, this should cover it. I said, come on. I dropped my girl off at that. I said, come on. I said, where you get this ish from? She said, I got it such as, come on I dropped my girl off at that I said come on I said where you get this ish from she said I got it come on in little five points
Starting point is 00:21:29 right drove right on back over there I said well man hey man hey Mr. Sharp how you doing I ain't doing too good you about to do
Starting point is 00:21:40 you about to be about to be doing a lot worse hey he took that ish right on out You about to be doing a lot worse. Hey, he took that ish right on out. Oh, golly. No, no. That's a good one now. And I told her, look, I don't know if she got tattoos now, but if that's what she wanted, my son, no.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I said, bro, hey, don't you get no tattoo before you get to, hey, once you get 18 and you get on, you in college? Right. And you out my house? Do what you want to do. Have at it. Get your whole body tatted. That's your money. That's your body. You want to look a damn fool? Have at it.
Starting point is 00:22:20 But you not going to do that in my house. That's not going to do that in my house. That's not going to happen. No, no, she stayed with me. Her junior, senior high school, she stayed with me. Oh, man. And, hey, I took care of that. She wasn't going to get pregnant.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I wasn't going to be no 40-year-old grand... No, how old would I be, Kayla? I wouldn't be no 20, no 43, 44-year-old granddad. That wasn't happening. So, like I said, but I think the thing is, Ocho, my kids know how I am. We got great relationships now. They understand how I am. My dad don't play.
Starting point is 00:23:01 He very serious. We don't joke. I didn't play pillow fight with my kids. I didn't do no water fight, no water balloon, none of that stuff. I'm kind of, hey,
Starting point is 00:23:11 I don't play like that. You laughing, Ocho. I don't play like that. Hey, hey, boy, you was over there running the household like the Green Mile,
Starting point is 00:23:21 boy. Man, Ocho, them kids be trying me, man. They be trying their parents. And their parents be letting them get away with that stuff. Oh, man. Hell no, boy. Hey, could you imagine if I was your child growing up, boy, you...
Starting point is 00:23:37 Hey. Hey, boy. Boy, look here. Boy, hey. Like my grandma used to say, my grandma used to tell me all the time boy don't make me hurt you don't don't I would have gave you hell boy
Starting point is 00:23:58 I would have gave you hell first of all like like the thing I was really worried about with the kid my daughter's obviously pregnancy. But my son, like, bro, look here, man. Hey, he back up. His mom called me. I said, put him on the phone.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Yeah. I was like, really, dude? You got your mom calling me? What did you say? What did you do? I said, boy, Key, don't make me? What did you do? I said, I said, boy, key.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Don't make me come home. Don't make me come home and hurt you. Man. Look here, man. Yeah. Nah. Hey,
Starting point is 00:24:39 I got, I got lucky on that end boy. I got, I got, I got lucky on it. As far as the kids. Obviously, it's a huge testament to mamas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:50 None of they mama play that. You know what? I'm talking about, man, don't play. No, you can't. Remember back in the day how we'd get tore up? Yeah. They mamas like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:03 We never had no issues. Yeah. Ain't no issues. We never had no issues. They ain't had no problems. Like maybe, maybe once. That's it. Yeah. Man,
Starting point is 00:25:11 mamas don't play Nathaniel. I always told the kids, the way you behave with me, you be that same way with your mom. If your mom tell you one time to do something, I don't tell y'all twice. The first time, thunder. The second time, lightning.
Starting point is 00:25:30 You don't want that lightning. Right. I'm not finna go, hey, didn't I tell y'all to stop that? Didn't I tell y'all to take that trash out? Right. I told my daughter, say, look here, I need you to run these dishes, and once the dishwasher is done with them,
Starting point is 00:25:44 I need you to dry them and put them up. is done with them, I need you to dry them and put them up. Yeah. One time. I told her one time, Mocho. I got up, that's when I was eating
Starting point is 00:25:53 around the clock. Every two and a half hours I was eating around the clock. Yeah. I got up. Dishwasher beeping. I was like, but it was beeping. It didn't really dawn on me. I was like but it was beeping
Starting point is 00:26:06 it didn't really dawn on me I was like what's that beeping I open the dishwasher about 3 o'clock in the morning I walk right upstairs
Starting point is 00:26:17 I made come on you ain't wait the girl up at no 3 o'clock in the morning I know dishes when you see her
Starting point is 00:26:24 when you see her ask her. Oh, hey. I would've ran, hey, I would've ran away from you, boy. I would've ran away from home. I would've ran away from home because you could've,
Starting point is 00:26:35 you could've waited until early in the morning before I had to go to school. I totally asked her to have them dishes dry and put up before we went to bed at nine o'clock,
Starting point is 00:26:43 before I went to bed. Now, hey, if I'd have'd have told if I'd have told her that hey there's a there's a pile of money she didn't remember that okay all right I said okay y'all y'all play. Okay, we play. Now, that's what we on? I don't know. Hey, that's why the problem is, Ocho. I don't believe I can be a parent right now in today's society. Right. Because of the kids.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I don't tolerate disrespect for my kids. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Under no circumstances. Don't you raise your. What? I wish my kids would have, I mean, yeah. Under no circumstances, don't you raise your, boy, I wish my kids would have ever raised their voice at me. I wish they'd have ever
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Starting point is 00:29:08 taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. With guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull, we'll take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever
Starting point is 00:29:29 it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space
Starting point is 00:30:32 and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second.
Starting point is 00:31:10 I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Ocho, Micah responded to comments on his podcast today. He tweeted, LOL, I want to do people hate my podcast because it's actually good or do people hate it because it's bad because hella people in the NBA and NFL have podcasts and no one has a problem. Yeah. Look it, Ocho, I'll beat you the F up if you stop your podcast. You have a voice and a platform. Use it or deal with the consequences from me. Listen, I like it. I like the podcast. I like the era that we're in. Obviously, the national media was in control
Starting point is 00:32:32 of the narrative and the perception of athletes. I like the fact that athletes now have a voice. They cut the middleman out. They cut the middleman. I like the fact that I don't think it gets in the way. I don't think it's a distraction because when it's time to play the game of football and that whistle blows everything on the outside of that,
Starting point is 00:32:49 it doesn't matter. You don't see it. We don't see it. I don't know how other people operate where they allow things on the outside to affect them when it's time to play football. That's just not me. And I look at Micah Parsons as one of those type of individuals who plays at the highest level and is really good in what I call the press situation, wearing that star on his helmet.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And he always shows up to the occasion. Now, at times he might say things he shouldn't say because it puts pressure on everybody else around him. Well, they have to show up to the party for some of the things he says. But other than that, man, talk your talk. People want to hear about it. You know, everybody else is hush-hush. Everybody else quiet. You know, you have a game, you have a good game,
Starting point is 00:33:31 you have a bad game. He doesn't hide. No. He talk when he win. He talk when they lose. I think more fans should embrace that. I agree with Joe, Joe. I just think the thing is,
Starting point is 00:33:52 like, bro, the only problem I got with Micah is that he talks so positive about everybody else's players, but he doesn't talk positive about his own quarterback. He's hyping Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow should have been
Starting point is 00:34:01 the MVP. Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow. He was basing off statistics, though, huh? All I know is that when they said top 10 quarterbacks, his quarterback wasn't one of them. So let me ask you a question. If they ask Ocho Cinco, a top 10 quarterback, even if Carson isn't one of them,
Starting point is 00:34:15 you leaving him out? No, you're not. No, no. He going to be in there regardless. No, thank you. He going to be in there regardless. That's all I'm saying. And then, obviously, I don't think Michael was probably thinking about it like that. Obviously, when the question was asked, you know, he was just rambling off what he thought, who he felt his top 10 were, and not putting Dak in it. Probably, it should have dawned on him.
Starting point is 00:34:37 We talk about a defensive player. I'm an offensive player. So the first thing I'm going to name is obviously my quarterback who's responsible for my success. I agree. Now, if it was C.D. Lamb who was asked that same question, guess who would be in that top 10? And probably going to be the first quarterback he says. Ask me who the best safety was.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Steve Atwater? Yeah. I'm taking my guys. Hey, they're great guys. But I'm saying I won championship. Those guys didn't win me no championship. You're like, well, yeah, this is no, hey, they're great guys. But I'm saying, I won championship. Those guys ain't winning no championship.
Starting point is 00:35:09 You're not going to win no championship with Joe Burrow unless you get traded there. It's going to be that. I'm always going to point my guy up. Right,
Starting point is 00:35:15 right, right, right. I'm always going to praise my dog. I don't give a damn if he can't do nothing but sit on the porch.
Starting point is 00:35:21 That's my dog though. So, I don't care if your dog can dial a phone. That ain't got nothing to do with the porch. That's my dog, though. So I don't care if your dog can dial a phone. That ain't got nothing to do with me. That's not my dog. My dog lazy, but that's mine. So I'm always going to hype up. I'm going to hype up my guy.
Starting point is 00:35:35 But look, he has a way of doing things. I think the thing is he's going to learn his trial and error when you talk as much as we talk. And I tell people this all the time. When you talk for a living, you're going to make some mistakes. You're going to say, because sometimes
Starting point is 00:35:49 you're talking faster than your brain is processing it. Yeah. So you're going to, hey, sometimes you're going to open your mouth and a toe going to pop out
Starting point is 00:35:56 because you got your foot in your mouth. It happens, Ocho. Think about how much I talk for it. Nightcap. I got two shows of ESPN. I got five shows of Nightcap. I got two shows of ESPN. I got five shows of Nightcap.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I got Club Shea Shea. Yeah. It's going to happen. People ask me all the time, say, man, how you don't lose your voice? Because when I go home, I don't talk. And this is one thing about Michael Parsons having a podcast too,
Starting point is 00:36:25 is I know what I know what I get on the field from him on Sundays quarter one quarter two quarter three quarter four I know what I get
Starting point is 00:36:32 ain't no question about it I can close my eyes I can tell you what he gonna do it don't matter who he playing so he gets a little leeway in that manner
Starting point is 00:36:43 now everybody else if you ain't out there on the goddamn field and you ain't doing nothing, there's no reason for you to be talking after the game or having a podcast in the first place because you ain't doing your job on Sunday. What is there for you to talk about? Right.
Starting point is 00:36:57 So it's different. All 32 teams attended the HBCU Combine. We can't make an NFL team grab HBCU players or pick them, but you can show what their abilities are. It's four or five of these guys, to me, that can be in this league. I agree. No, we're not saying, look, but if you don't see them, obviously, your scouts had to come see what Savannah State had to offer.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I mean, they came and they tested us. My junior year, they came and looked. We had a couple of guys, like we had a guy named Bobby Curtis, and he was outstanding. And so, you know, they would come down and obviously when something, you know, you hear about, hey, man, this guy might go
Starting point is 00:37:40 to the NFL. Some scouts gonna be there. We played Central Florida and, you know, we played teams like that, played Georgia Southern. Okay, scouts to be there. We play Central Florida and, you know, we play teams like that, play Georgia Southern. Okay, scouts are going to be there. Oh, I'm going to shine. You might come there looking for somebody, but I guarantee you
Starting point is 00:37:51 when you leave, you're going to ask, who that number two? Yeah, yeah. Hey, Bill, that number two. Hey, he a sophomore. Uh-huh. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And that's one thing I always say, the eye and the sky don't lie. A lot of players, they always focus on going to the right school, you know, going to the PWIs. Listen, it don't matter where you go because when the scouts turn on the film, all you got to do is pop out on tape.
Starting point is 00:38:18 If you really who you think you are, it don't matter where you go. It's what you do when you get there. They will find you. You can play football with the Sisters of the North in Alaska. When they turn the film on and they see that
Starting point is 00:38:35 certain number that's always active and popping out on film, it's easy to stand out. If everybody went white and there's one person in black, you're going to be able to notice it right away. Mm-hmm. When you turn on the film,
Starting point is 00:38:50 they will notice you. Yeah. It doesn't matter. Hey, I tell you what, if you don't know what my number is, go watch Savannah State. I guarantee you, at the end of the game,
Starting point is 00:39:00 you're like, man, who is that number two? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And matter of fact, do if you do go to smaller schools and you don't pop out on film there then what you gonna do when you're at a bigger school yes come on now if you really who you think you are man man don't get me started i'm not i'm not here to preach. It ain't Sunday. But that's how I was.
Starting point is 00:39:26 I was always, I always wanted to show up, Ocho, because I remember we had, Ocho, we used to have, hold on, what do they call them? Jamboree. You know the Jamborees? Did y'all have Jamborees? We had Jamboree in high school at Mylander Stadium, at Mylander.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Yes. So you play one team for a half, and then you play another team for a half, and then that team will play that other team for a half. So we had those. And so we had a spring, my senior year, my junior year, we had a spring game. And we had this player, and Coach was like, Coach, y'all was going to put us all on a team together, stack the team to make sure.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I said, nah, I want to be on the other team. Right. Because I knew all the scouts. Clemson, Georgia, South Carolina, all the scouts was going to be there. Hey, Graveyard had to show up, old chump. Nothing. No, sir.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Yeah. No, sir. They're cutting up. No, sir. Hey, own him. Graveyard was here, but hey, old chump, I'm telling you. hey Odie graveyard with your body I'm telling you when I left the field there were bodies everywhere
Starting point is 00:40:32 graveyard was here those are good old days I miss those oh Joe Drake may have lost the beef to Kendrick but he has certainly
Starting point is 00:40:43 not lost his charity a couple of videos have surfaced from his shows in Sydney So Drake may have lost the beef to Kendrick, but he has certainly not lost his charity. A couple of videos have surfaced from his shows in Sydney. First, he noticed a pregnant woman in the mosh pit. Let's check out the video. I saw a sign that somebody said they were 20 weeks pregnant in the pit. Get your ass out of the pit. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Are you 20 weeks pregnant? Get out of the pit. Yes. Are you 20 weeks pregnant? Get out of the pit. Get out of there. Get the camera on her. Get that baby out of the pit ASAP. Come here, girl. Yo, grab it. Get her some VIP tickets immediately at like $30,000.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Stop going in the pit. Get that baby out of the hospital. What the f*** is wrong with y'all? What the f***? Love that. Who the f*** brings a baby to a hospital? I love that. I love it.
Starting point is 00:41:41 They can't make me hate that dude. I don't care. I don't hate him. Yeah. Hey, listen. That's dope. I don't care. I don't hate him. Yeah. Hey, listen. That's dope. That's real dope. Obviously, understanding the dangers of being in the mosh pit, especially depending on what
Starting point is 00:41:51 song he plays, having the baby idea, not really healthy because the people around you ain't really paying attention and really don't care that you pregnant. And, ho, listen. And to add the cherry on top, he offered $30,000. And one thing, if you know about Drake, oh, yeah, he going to take care of you pregnant. And hold, listen, and to add the cherry on top, he offered $30,000. And one thing, if you know about Drake, oh yeah, he gonna take care of you now. He's a generous individual. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Yeah, that's live. That was dope. I like that. And then, Drake did this. Oh, another one? I like this song right here. He says, rock, rock, paper, scissors to buy his dad a birthday card. Oh, and not only... Think about it. Oh shit, this is my game, boy. You ready? One, two, three. You lost.
Starting point is 00:42:52 I'll give you one more. Think about it. Think about it. One, two, three. Ooh, tied it up. One, two, three. Oh, tied it up. One, two, three. Ooh, tied it up. One, two, three. Oh, tied it up.
Starting point is 00:43:06 One, two, three. You lost again. Yeah, play the noise where it loses. Uh, uh, uh. I'm still gonna give you $20,000 super value back. That's a lot. Don't let the be on rock paper scissors though i will win all right one more one more one hey that's live man listen it's one thing to put on a concert
Starting point is 00:43:32 to get out there and perform sing and then leave but to be able to have those moments we able to engage with the crowd and become one with them whereas's relatable. That's why he's as big as he is. That's why so many people can relate to him and his music because you do stuff like that. Everybody don't do that. Ocho, a man came to a nail salon to get a refund for his girl's $400 nails. The only problem is they were only $80. The girlfriend fleeced him for $320 Ocho, watch this video
Starting point is 00:44:07 But that's a good one Yeah I came in to get like a refund Cause my girl, she came in earlier And she got some $400 And she was talking about something You were holding her hostage and about to call the cops What?
Starting point is 00:44:22 Like she gets home And bro, it's just some lines at the top. That's not, that's not no $400. Well, first off, I haven't done
Starting point is 00:44:30 $400 nails today, so I, I just want to make that, I haven't done $400 nails today. What's her, what's her girlfriend's name? Her name's Stacy.
Starting point is 00:44:39 She had an 8 o'clock appointment in the morning today. I want to show you hers because I don't want, I don't want any drama and no BS because this is something you're going to have to figure out with her. But her nails were only $80 today. Look, here's her result.
Starting point is 00:44:57 It was only $80. I haven't done no $400 nails today, dude. So nobody was holding anybody hostage or calling the police or anything like that. So you're going to have to go figure it out with her. But I haven't done no $400 nails. Oh, and I think she lied to me. I'm going to talk to her. No, she definitely lies to you.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Oh, f***. She scammed you, bro. But I'm not the scammer here. It's your boyfriend. So you better go figure it out. Thank you. Yep. All right.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Love. Hey, you know what? That's his fault, huh? Yeah. That's his fault. Now, listen. Listen. As a boyfriend, you're supposed to know how much maintenance costs for the woman you're dealing with you got to have some type of background some type of some type of knowledge of nails hair lashes wigs coloring you know so ends you got you got to know all that stuff
Starting point is 00:45:51 you know so he's not he's not sharp and he's not detailed and knowing what his women likes and how much the thing costs that she needs for her upkeep four hundred dollars you know better than that. You should know better than that. Like, I do nails, huh? I do lashes, you know? No, I do eyebrows. I thread. You know, I do individuals. I do strips. Like, I do
Starting point is 00:46:18 my daughter's makeup. You hear me? So you got to know that stuff, man. He trippin'. Like't he don't really need to have no girlfriend i'm just being honest because that's stuff you supposed to know if your girl asks you i need four hundred dollars to get my nails done you're supposed to look at her are you okay are you okay because you think i don't know no better you mean for the man stop most guys most guys everybody gonna take this i mean you take your woman to me if I don't know no better? You mean for the man? Stop. Most guys, most guys, everybody's going to take
Starting point is 00:46:46 the, I mean, you take your woman. I mean, if you don't, if you, if she tells you a certain number, you don't believe her, well, you probably need to move on. Yeah. Or what she can do is instead of lying about it, because if she lied about that, if she lied about
Starting point is 00:47:01 something that small, she lied about something big. And that's my point. If you don't trust her to tell you that the money that was it cost for her to get the nails, what else you don't trust her about? You need to move on. It's really that simple. As a matter of fact, what she did with the rest of the money anyway? Might have spent it on her side, dude. Probably.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Let me stop that. I don't know what she did with it. I don't know. Maybe she went and got her makeup done maybe she went and got you know got another service provided for with that extra money I don't know if you tell me
Starting point is 00:47:36 I need X amount of dollars for my hair I need this and this okay I'm going to give it to you man look here if I got every time you ask me for something and if I got to worry about it if I'm giving it to it to you. Man, look here. If every time you ask me for something and if I got to worry about it, if I'm giving it to you and you're doing what you think,
Starting point is 00:47:49 that ain't got nothing to do with me. Right. I can't worry. I ain't going to lie to you. I can't even worry about it. Yeah, I understand what you mean, but just the fact that I'm well versed and I have expertise in all those areas
Starting point is 00:48:04 when it comes to the upkeep and understanding the prices and how they range, you know, varied on what it is you're trying to get. Yeah, that ain't gonna work. You ain't finna pull the wool over my eyes. I know what everything costs.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Everything. From high end to low end. So how you want to play the game? And matter of fact, you really can't get no money out of me anyway because half your upkeep, I know how to do it anyway. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:48:34 I don't care if a woman does know how to do my upkeep. She ain't cutting no hair. Hey, you want to buy it? Hey, I need my lashes done. Well, come on over here and lay down. What you want? Hybrid? Classic?
Starting point is 00:48:47 Mega volume? What you need? Come on, come on, lay down. What you want, strips? You in a hurry? I give you some strips real quick. Hell, I give you individuals. Play with me if you want to.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Talk about I need $300. Man, get out my face. No, I mean, that's how I am. Look, I ain't got time. You say, hey, I need X amount for my hair. I need X amount for this. Okay, I need X amount to get my car fixed. Okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:49:14 I'm going to take your word for it. Hmm. Just be careful now. Yeah. Because once you break my trust oh yeah it's a wrap it's a wrap it's done in matter in matter in matter fact
Starting point is 00:49:30 you know what i'm gonna leave it alone we're there i'm gonna leave it i ain't i ain't gonna say it i ain't gonna say it i'm leaving alone yeah it's uh it is what it is man like I said
Starting point is 00:49:46 sometimes I don't know uh sometimes people take advantage of your kindness or your generosity uh whatever the case may be and you know it is what it is Ocho
Starting point is 00:50:01 yeah man yeah um it's a situation where you you know, you're like, damn, just be honest. If the nails cost $400, they cost $400. If they cost $200, they cost $200. If they cost $100, they cost $100. I'm thinking, Ocho, it's hard for me to see a scenario because, hell, I get my nails done once a week and I, you know, it's at least $110. I mean, sometimes it's like, I mean, some places it's give or take.
Starting point is 00:50:28 When I go to Atlanta, it's 140. The lady I did, Tasha, hey Tasha, I know you watching. Her is 165. Lady here in Vegas, they 110.
Starting point is 00:50:43 They're one of those. So, it's hard for They won the nails. So, it's hard for me to see a scenario that especially women get like, I think, what do they call them,
Starting point is 00:50:50 gels? Acrylics? Yeah. Okay. It's hard for me to see a scenario where they're not going to be, they're going to be
Starting point is 00:50:58 at least, what, a 150? How much gel nail cost, Chad? You about right. You right up there. Yeah. It can get a little bit more expensive
Starting point is 00:51:11 when you add the designs. You add the designs and stuff. Now you're talking. Yeah. I got a friend of mine. She does nails. I should have hit her up. I knew we was just going to be talking, asking how much she charge.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Man, she probably tried to break people out. She probably be charging two, $300. Cause you know, she like, she's, she's like an artist.
Starting point is 00:51:34 So she can draw stuff on the nails and stuff like that. And I get that. So, you know, you, you taking that kind of time. Uh, I get it.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Uh, somebody said $195, $1,500 for what? Ain't no nails195 $1,500 for what ain't no Nails cost no $1,500 if y'all get y'all $1,500 hey Ocho I don't want to say nothing
Starting point is 00:51:55 but uh Laker just won and Braun had a faulty piece whoo he was a faulty ball and who they played Who they played Portland
Starting point is 00:52:06 And You gotta realize He just played 37-38 minutes last night Fought a little Bit of back to back Hold on And with a
Starting point is 00:52:15 Fought a ball Portland ain't that good Huh Oh whoa whoa whoa You just tell me All the time in football You play who you play That's what you tell me
Starting point is 00:52:23 Say oh you gotta play I know I know I know, I know, I know. As a matter of fact, you know, it's LeBron anyway, though. He can score 40 on any given night against anybody. So I take that back. You know, I take that back.
Starting point is 00:52:33 I apologize. I apologize. That man got his age. The man got his age. Yeah, he like that. He won them ones, now. 40 balls. And he should be all NBA in year 22.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I mean, rightfully so. Rightfully so. I don't think nobody going to argue that. Let that ball man D-Lo say. That's what I be listening to. That's what I be on. Are you listening to that's what i'll be on are you are you listening to boss man d-low yeah mr pot scraper okay it's a it's a new album i i don't know i'm not sure i don't know if you're in the r&b or not
Starting point is 00:53:17 i just there's a young a young boy man that somebody put me on to earlier had an album came out i'm not sure when it came out. His name is Leon Thomas. I don't know. I'm not familiar. Listen, I wasn't familiar either, but I'm familiar with him now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Leon Thomas. You know, it's some good, I don't even know what genre of music, you know, category it would go under, but, man, I've been listening to him all day long. All day long. All day long. I guarantee you'll like it. I guarantee you.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Luka didn't play tonight, Ocho. So they're going to have to find a way to play together because it's not going to be like, okay, Luka, you take the night off. LeBron, you got it. LeBron, you take the night off. Okay, Luka, you got it. They're going to have to find
Starting point is 00:54:05 Austin Reeves had 32. Woo! I mean, look, AR, hey, hey, he'll be like Kobe. Oh, he's going to be at work. I believe he's going to be... What's he calling?
Starting point is 00:54:16 He'll be like Kobe. I believe, I believe Austin Reeves have the skill set to be, to be an all-star. He that good. He that good, man. You watch him as a rookie,
Starting point is 00:54:28 and you watch his second year, you watch his third year, man, I'm serious. That's why, if you think about it, he's one of the guys that they ain't not getting off of. They're not getting off of Austin Reeves. Nor should they. He, hey,
Starting point is 00:54:43 he like that. He like that. I like it. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in
Starting point is 00:55:12 front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action, and that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. With guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. all right Ocho now it's time to get to our final segment of the evening Q&A
Starting point is 00:59:11 all right Ocho in honor of your struggling hairline. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Who are your top five most influential ball guys of all time? Michael Jordan, Stone Cold Steve Austin, DMX, Diamond Hansu, Mr. Marcus.
Starting point is 00:59:38 I'm going to start with Mr. Marcus first. I don't know who the hell is Mr. Marcus. I mean, he's an influencer. Okay. Hold on, hold on on he's a horizontal Influencer Yeah yeah I mean Michael Jordan obviously
Starting point is 00:59:54 He goes in that category Kojak Tell us about us Kojak is a good one that's a good one What about The Rock The Rock would be a good one right yeah for sure
Starting point is 01:00:07 Diamond Honsu give us free give us free give us free what movie was that Armistod Armistod that's right
Starting point is 01:00:20 that's right Tupac yep Pac Pac Pac had a full Pac had a full Pac had a full full head of hair too
Starting point is 01:00:28 now I remember he had the he had the the high top fade and juice yeah most people most people know him
Starting point is 01:00:35 from from from the ball oh yeah yeah yeah but I can say yeah Michael Jordan
Starting point is 01:00:42 Michael Jordan made Michael Jordan people get hair would grow they thought bro just got you cut your hair bald that don't mean you could say yeah Michael Jordan Michael Jordan made Michael Jordan people's hair would grow they thought bro just because you cut your hair bald that don't mean you can jump like Michael Jordan you should live your ish alone yeah yeah Mike would
Starting point is 01:00:55 probably be one like Kojak was really the first hey Lou Gossett Jr. oh that's a good one I don't think I don't have Lou Gossett Jr. Oh, that's a good one. Oh, dude. I don't think, I don't have Lou Gossett Jr.
Starting point is 01:01:08 ever had hair. I don't, I don't know. Yul Brynner? Yul Brynner's before your time. A famous actor. What football player
Starting point is 01:01:21 would be ball or Joe and B? Ball? Is there a football player would be not a ball or Joe and B ball is there a football player that's ball like only one I can think of is Otis Sistrunk I know you don't remember
Starting point is 01:01:34 Otis Sistrunk he played with the Raiders in the 70s yeah I don't really know but I think about it it seems like everybody got goddamn hair. Or dreads. Yeah. Or some kind of something.
Starting point is 01:01:52 I guess they just say, oh, X-Man, Xavier McDaniel. Shaq. Yeah. Shaq is a good one. Yeah, because I don't think... I think Shaq might have had hair his freshman year at LSU. Maybe. I love fade.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Your boy, T.O.? Yeah, T. T got a ball. T got a ball. Tiki and Rondé Barber. Tyra said, what's up, Hogan Ocho? Is there a real chance that Luka don't sign the extension with the Lakers? No.
Starting point is 01:02:27 You never say never, but never say never, Ocho. Yeah, I'll say never. He ain't going nowhere. Ocho, these people are here talking about Jada Pinkett. Cameron, I'm with you. You asked my question who is a basketball player that made the Hall of Fame
Starting point is 01:02:48 but didn't win a ring a bunch of them Patrick Ewing Karl Malone Charles Barkley a bunch of guys a lot of them Elgin Baylor
Starting point is 01:03:02 Elgin Baylor retired the year, and the next year, that year, the Lakers won the championship. Yeah, there's been plenty of people that, basketball players, that that's in the hall but didn't win a ring. Isaiah Lancaster, Ogunnocho, Amon Ross,
Starting point is 01:03:19 St. Brown said, healthy lives would beat the Eagles. Who would you take if they played opening night? Different. If they played last year, they're healthy. I'd would beat the Eagles. Who would you take if they played opening night? Different. If they played last year, they're healthy. I still take the Eagles. I think the Eagles were the best team. I said that about week nine, week 10 that I thought based on what
Starting point is 01:03:36 I've seen in totality. There might be somebody that had a better offense. Somebody might be better on defense. And somebody might have better special teams. But if I combine all those ingredients, I thought the Eagles had the best team, Ocho. Yeah. And so if they play, it's different.
Starting point is 01:03:51 It's like, well, if they play opening night, Ocho, it ain't got the same juice, bro. Right. The playoff juice, even opening night juice, ain't playoff juice. And it definitely ain't NFC Championship game or Super Bowl juice. But I would take the Eagles. If they played this past season in the playoffs and both teams,
Starting point is 01:04:16 I would take the Eagles. It says, also, do you see a blockbuster trade in the NFL taking place in the future as big as Luka and AD? I mean, you don't see 25-year-olds get traded that don't want to get traded. It won't happen.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Now, equivalent probably would have been Deshaun, but there were some extenuating circumstances that went along with that. But no, I do not see that trade. A comparable trade. A trade, a comparable trade. Unless you see
Starting point is 01:04:47 Patrick Mahomes get traded, Joe Burrow get traded, Josh Allen get traded. None of that will happen for another decade. Yeah. Now, if you see
Starting point is 01:04:58 Miles Garrett, but Miles Garrett wants to be traded. Miles Garrett wants to leave. Yeah. If somebody would have traded LT in his prime, okay. If somebody, you know what I'm saying, Ocho, trade a prime in his prime. Trade a Jerry, you know, okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:14 But, nah, I don't see that happening. Hustle said, oh, bet you $100 OKC wins the championship if healthy, Shanna. I'll give you $100 Super Chat if they don't. SGA going to win MVP too. Bet. I got SGA win MVP. I got that. I got OKC not winning title.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Steven G said, question for Unk. Do you think Mahomes will retire only playing for Kansas City? And Ocho, has anyone else or route running
Starting point is 01:05:40 brought you to tears like Devontae Adams? Woo, boy. I mean, when you think about it, Ocho, think about in the last 20 years, two of the historically great quarterbacks in the history of the game, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, did not finish their careers with the team that drafted them. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Joe Montana did not finish his team with drafting him. Joe Namath, Johnny Unitas, did not finish their careers with We drafted him. Joe Namath, Johnny Unitas, did not finish their careers with the team that drafted them. I say 85%. Or, they can get to a point where he retires
Starting point is 01:06:14 before it even gets to the point where they have opportunity to let him go. Or to say, we no longer want your services. Let me ask you this. Does he retire because he doesn't want to do it anymore or he tired because his skills are diminishing?
Starting point is 01:06:33 With the kind of money he's making, I think he does it when his skills are diminishing and he just can't do it anymore. Samuel Griffin said, Hey, Uncle Nocho, if podcasts were a thing during your playing days, which of your former teammates
Starting point is 01:06:48 would have been the best podcast host? Me and Burns? Shoot. I'm trying to think. Shoot, me, probably me and TJ. Yeah, me and TJ
Starting point is 01:07:00 would have been cool. Hell, shit. And then if I was in Baltimore, it would probably have been me, me and Sugar. You and Ray, it would have been cool. Hell, shit. And then if I was in Baltimore, it would probably have been me and Sugar. You and Ray. It would have been funny. Yep.
Starting point is 01:07:10 J-Dub from Akron said, Ocho, you see young brother wanted to purchase Spirit. Are you going to partner up? Who want? No, I missed that one. I missed that one. Good. I missed that one. Hey, but listen, you know, you talk about spirit,
Starting point is 01:07:28 and you notice all these incidents happening. You notice spirit ain't been in nothing, man, one of them. Because they're grounded. I'm just talking. It's hard to accident when you watch. I'm just throwing that out there. You know, no disrespect to the other airlines, but we ain't had one issue.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Just keep that in mind. That's for everybody in the chat, too. Keep that out there. You know, no, no disrespect to the other airlines, but we had one issue. I'm just, just keep that in mind. That's for everybody in the chat to keep that in mind. All right, chat. That concludes this episode of nightcap brought to you by boost mobile. Visit your nearest boost mobile store or boost mobile.com to join their nationwide 5g network today.
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