Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: money talk, life after football, Tyreek’s wild list

Episode Date: January 25, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top pop culture moments of the week including Unc and Ocho money talk, football is what you do, not who you are, Tyreek Hill's crazy list and much more!03:14 - Viral clip surfaces of real estate developer being racially profiled19:36 - Ocho’s crash course in finance24:07 - Unc and Ocho money talk30:18 - Football is what Unc did, not who he was34:12 - Do you agree with Tyreek Hill’s list?40:30 - Unc’s hip story(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You're listening to an iHeart Podcast. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify, the thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.

To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. of the NFL. Scoring touchdowns is the key to winning NFL playoffs. And the key to you scoring big, betting on them at DraftKings, the number one place to bet touchdowns. Ready to place your first bet? Try betting on something as simple as a player to score six. Go to DraftKings Sportsbook app, make your pick. Here's another reason to bet your favorite player to crush it in the playoffs.

New customers bet $5 and get $200 in bonus bets instantly. Score big during the NFL playoffs with DraftKings Sportsbook. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app. Use code MONEYMOVES. That's code MONEYMOVES for new customers to get $200 in bonus bet instantly when you bet just $5 only at DraftKings Sportsbook. The crown is yours. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. Or in West Virginia, visit 1-800-GAMBLER.net. In New York, call 877-8-HOPE-NY or text HOPE-NY 467-369. In Connecticut, help is available for problem gambling.

Call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org. Please play responsibly. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino and Resort in Kansas, 21 and over, age varies by jurisdiction. Void in Ontario, one no-sweat bet per new customer. Issued as one bonus bet based on amount of initial losing bet. Bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. See dkng.com slash promos for deposit, wagering, and eligibility restrictions,

terms, and responsible gaming resources. Ocho. There's a really disturbing video that came out yesterday. A real estate developer shared footage of him being profiled by a neighbor at a home he built in an affluent neighborhood. In order for us to do this video justice, we have to show the video, guys. So we ask you to bear with us because in order to do it justice and give you the proper context, we must show the video in its entirety.

Now, the video is like three minutes long. We're asking you to please bear with us so we can have this conversation and do it justice and provide context. Let's take a look at the video, Joe. How's it going? Oh. Do you live here? Yeah.

You do? I don't believe that. What? I don't believe that. What are you doing here? Break on. Break on. Break on.

They just left the spoon? Did someone tell me that? I was going to ask. They just left us alone? Does someone come here? It was my wife. She got chased away. I didn't catch her. Who chased her? Someone in my super high. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And he gets around the corner and he goes up the street. And so I come up and I pick my pick pick so i'm like to pretend that i'm coming home and so i hold up and i said welcome to your back gate and he stops here and he goes are you looking for someone i said no and then he sat here and i was like i need to get in well

that's my husband that's why he lives here yeah lives here. So he came in and he said there's a lady screaming. And I'm like, that's... She got all worried. She's so scared. Come on. How? I told you. How did he scare you, though?

I've been seeing her in the driveway and I was like, are you looking for somebody? Because I was pulling up. And I saw someone walking in our driveway, too. And I'm like, why is someone walking in our driveway? Sorry. Right, sorry. Hi.'m like, why is someone walking in our driveway? Sorry. Right, sir. What? Hi.

She said that someone was following her. So you were walking from there? You came this way, didn't you? No, I came down this street right here. Yeah. And I was riding slow because I'm looking at our Christmas lights. Oh. I'm like.

Well, you just have to understand my point of view. Being by myself was a cave. I just saw a car coming. And so I was like, oh, it scared me. So I just pulled up here, and I kept thinking, this could be Jesus. But you didn't say, this is my home. You just said, you look at my

downflank. I did. When you was on the porch, you asked me to L.A. Fair. I said, yeah. And you said, no, you don't. And you said, I don't think you do. Obviously, you told her I was really good over there. Like, I'm pulling in my, like, I'm pulling in my house. Like, this is not...

This neighborhood is probably one of the best neighborhoods in Ohio. I don't... You don't have to worry about stuff like that. Well, I'm very sorry. I really don't know what to say. Come on, baby. We'll say it's done. You told me that I didn't...

You said you didn't think I lived here. You said it on somebody else's porch. You don't live there. And because the man just said, hey, I live here. Now, Ocho, you hear what she's saying? You have to understand my point of view. We're always asked to understand their point of view. All the while, never seeing our point of view.

You don't get to stand on my porch and ask me a question about my D house. What are you doing on my front doorstep? You see what she did? And she went running screaming now call the cops now he gets blasted oh this man was chasing me see they had to release the video because she was lying so they they she left them no choice because they tried to handle it they handled it way way better than I would have ever handled it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Obviously, listen, depending on who it is in that influent neighborhood, you know.

You see? You know, there's people out there that would handle it. You weren't supposed to be there. A fluent doesn't rhyme with black. A fluent is only supposed to mean a certain group need to look like her. She's like, oh, you have to understand somebody along with two kids. Clearly you're not that concerned because your ass outside in the dark with you and your two kids. So clearly you are not concerned.

But now all of a sudden you have to see my point of view of seeing a woman with two kids. Right. And I'm confused. If you're a neighbor, if you've been in the neighborhood already, you haven't seen your neighbors? You've never seen them before? I'm just curious. I mean. I don't know.

But stuff like this happens all the time, though. This is nothing new. It was caught on camera this time. Yes. That's my point. What if it It was caught on camera this time. Yes. That's my point. What if it wasn't caught on camera? You know everybody's going to believe her side of the story. Absolutely.

What if she called the police and the police come and ask this man to identify yourself? And he's like, I don't want to identify myself. This is my house. I'm home. Yeah. You see? And now she done went on, she done disabled all of her social media

and she done did an IG live talking about people are calling me racist. You don't understand. We understand. We absolutely, 1000% understand what you did. Instead of trying to, instead of trying to say, look, I was wrong.

You don't get to go on somebody else's front porch, Ocho, and ask him. And if they say, do you live here? He says, yes. You said you didn't believe him. You don't live there. So who cares if he lives there? Your ass don't live there. And then, hold on, did she not walk away, left the stroller, scream and help?

Yes. Running down the street, screaming help. Help? Help what? He should have been screaming. It's sad. Even during this time, nothing has changed. How do you get to play victim, Ocho, when you initiated this whole thing?

You see? And see, that's what happens a lot of time on social media. But this is real life. People will say whatever they want to say to you. Women will say to them, oh, Shannon, and I don't let it go. Ocho, you know, I told my New Year's resolution. I ain't going to let it bother me. People still say things, oh, you thick-tongued, you, and I don't let it go. Ocho, you know, I told my New Year's resolution. I ain't gonna let it bother me. People still say things.

Oh, you thick tongue. You can't talk. Now, see, when I talk about you, oh, does ESPN know you talk about women like this? Oh, now ESPN didn't even know I talk about women like this. When you hop your hot ass on my timeline and try to get one off, and I click, clack, clack, clack. Because, you know, I keep that thing. I keep that thing, homie, Ocho. I got a thousand jokes.

I'm on number 12. Yeah, you got it. You got it. You got to tweet like I do, man. It's fun, and you got to understand. I let it go. No, you can't let it go, man. So listen, let me tell you something.

If somebody walk up and slap you, you going to turn another cheek? Ocho, I pray, you know, I pray every night that God just leave me be now what I got dang got nothing to do with what I just asked you if somebody walk up

and slap you on the left side of your cheek are you going to turn the right side so they slap that that one too yeah I'm going to have to move on

I'm just going to say Lord you got you got to control your Twitter the way I do you have people that are positive and I engage with them in a positive manner. You have people that talk to me negatively, and I engage with them in a negative manner. It keeps a happy balance on the timeline.

Everything can't be positive. No. It can't. I just don't respond. That's not the way the app works. So if somebody accuses you, I'm telling you, regardless of what your New Year's resolution may be, you have to talk trash back.

We love that. The people love that. It keeps, it keeps the timeline balanced. If everything is always happy, happy, happy, happy, it ain't, no. It's all good.

But, hey, listen, negativity and talking trash and engaging with people, whether negative or positive, it builds character. But positive, it builds character. But it does. But you know what, Ocho? We don't ever get to miss next day. We don't ever get to stand on somebody porch and ask them, you live here?

I don't believe you. You notice that never happens to any of us? We never get on camera being at the wrong place and saying, oh, is this your house? I don't get it. You think I care? You actually think I care who house it is. I'm minding my business.

They throw their hand up, I throw my hand up and keep going. But you on this man's place, on this man's front porch, he said he lived there. You say you don't believe him. You leave your scroller. You take off running, screaming, yelling, help, help, help.

You don't know who could have heard that, came out shooting. And then what? I'm sorry? Uh-oh. Yeah. And it could have gone bad depending on what type of cop showed up. That's my point, Ocho. That's my only point.

How many times have we seen a situation like this happen because of a lie? Emmett Till died behind of a lie. Mm-hmm. Or people being nosy. Yes. Which young dude that was running? Remember? Oh, yeah. lie. People being nosy. Yes! Which young dude that was running? Remember? Oh, yeah. That's that in Brunswick. Yeah, he was, yeah.

Come on now. Well, we don't, we don't, we don't, we don't get, we don't get that benefit. Because how many times there have been a lot of times that we call the cops and we end up getting arrested. We call the cops on them. Yeah. I just hated this.

My heart broke for this family because it could have. And see people quickly say, oh, but it didn't. No, it's not that it didn't. It's the fact that it happened to begin with. Yeah. We're in 2025 and stuff like this is still happening yeah and the funny thing about it regardless of it being 2025 it could be it could be 2050 it's still gonna always go on you know we just we just have to do a better job at trying to disengage in those situations how are you gonna do that why i gotta disengage at my house? I mean, I know what you mean.

I'm just saying, you know. Oh, Joe, just think about it. You pull up to your house, you pull up to your mansion, and somebody's standing on your front porch.

Uh, you live here? You're like, yeah, I don't believe you. Yeah, yeah. Bitch,

how you got through my gate? Oh, my bad. Okay, my bad. I was doing good tonight. That was my first one. I'm sorry.

Yes! Bro! My first thing is like, do you live here? Why? I don't know if I live there, but I know you don't. Now again,

why are you on that porch? Why are you on that porch? Why are you on my porch? Yes! Man, please. She was doing too much. She did entirely too much. It was so unnecessary. And then the fact that she's yelling and screaming

like somebody was chasing her. She left this couple no choice but to release that video because she had told and the family got tired of her lies upon lies upon lies and it says,

you know what? It's all captured on RingCam. It's everything that transpired is captured. Now she's trying to go back.

You got to understand my point of view. A mother with two kids. If you're so afraid, If you're so afraid, if you're so afraid, why is your ass out that time of night with two kids? If you're that afraid,

clearly you're not that afraid. You're clearly not that afraid. And yeah, she went and got her husband. You see, that's where I'd have had to whip him. You see, that's then, that's when I had to whip him. You see, that's the thing. I had to whip him.

You going to put hands on him, Ma? Get on my property. Get on my property and you going to get whipped. And I'm going to call my wife. You whip her, too. Nah, you ain't finna play you ain't finna play in my face like that

oh man I'm like oh you ain't got your husband what you ain't got him for the best thing y'all can do y'all out of hey is to turn around

and go on back home cause this ain't gonna end well for either one of y'all you gotta hit it you gotta hit it with that Bernie Mac you look like you're trying to do something to me.

Hey, it won't be in a fluid neighborhood when I get through with him. Nah, don't play like that. Don't do people like that. When you wrong, don't exacerbate

a situation by lying. You was wrong. You know, they play victim quick now. You effed up and then you want to play victim. Quick. Mm-mm. No. So, hopefully everything

gets resolved. The couple, I am sorry that you had to go through this. That's why, you know, you move in a neighborhood and you think you're safe and everything's going to be OK. And then it doesn't matter. This happens. This. In my neighborhood, on my porch, my kids, my family got to witness this. And all the while you pretend like you're the victim.

No, we're the victim? No. We're the victim. And it's all because of you and your jaded perception. That we don't belong here. We don't belong. How y'all look? You can't look like that and belong here. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable

guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all.

So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a

conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the

most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair.

And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.

To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see. Muhammad Ali was never afraid to express himself loudly and boldly and stays true to form in Ali and Me, an eight-part Audible original. Guided by his own words, this series explores Ali's life and legacy through never-before-heard audio recordings and discussions with those who knew him best. Muhammad had this real sense of his own personal values and principles, things he believed in, his own sense of conviction, those convictions never wavered. Hosted by Muhammad's wife, Lani Ali, and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster, John Ramsey, Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith,

and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. Tactical lupus. When is otonomics class of fiscal responsibility coming out? And how can Brock get paid less than Tua, Lawrence and Golf,, Watson, Love, or Hertz? Will his agent

get him right, or is he on a coupon? Listen, OJ Odomus will probably never come out because when we think about it, obviously it would be for the athletes, for those who make large sums of money in a short amount of time, and everyone is too caught up in the image, looking a certain

way, and once they make it, they want to make sure they attain that image that they have to portray of having money. And ain't nobody, ain't nobody dumbing down their lifestyle the way I have, or the way I did, you know, when I was playing the way I do now, you know, they did, they just wouldn't, they just wouldn't. Impossible. And I, I, I say it all the time. I was able to do it during that time when I was playing because I found a way where I can make my name just as valuable as anything I could purchase. I'm not saying.

After you got your house. You understand what I'm not saying. After you got your Ocho, but after you got your house, let's just say, yes, I do. My yeses was just as valuable. I'm still Ocho whether I'm in a Prius

or I'm in a Rose. I could have wore a goddamn trash bag. Oh shit, then go Ocho. Get them out. I didn't need the jewelry. I didn't need the change.

I didn't need the car. You know, it was nice to have just the fact that knowing I can go get it, that was all I need. My name was just as big or bigger than anything I could purchase. So there was no point. Ocho,

you get $30 million. You're making $30 million a year. You're like, okay, I'm going to go get my mom and dad a house, so forth and so on. Whatever the case may be nice little nice little house give them a little $350,000

$400,000 home something they can maintain they don't need no two three million dollar crib right okay let's just say you know what man

I always wanted me a nice watch okay you want to spend a couple hundred thousand dollar for a watch take off yeah I get me two

three cars Ocho at that point in time how many cars do I need do I need a two, three cars, Ocho. At that point in time, how many cars do I need? Do I need a flock of 10 cars, Ocho? Do I need to get, if I get a Ferrari, I don't need a Lambo. If I get a Rolls,

I don't need a Bentley. If I get a Lambo truck, I don't need a Cullinan. You see what I'm saying, Ocho? Yes, sir. Do I really need a $15 million CREA, Ocho, I don't need a Cullinan. You see what I'm saying, Ocho? Yes, sir. I don't... Do I really need a $15 million CREO, Ocho? I don't.

Do I need to get a... No, you don't need a private jet. If you want to fly private, get timeshares. Me, personally, hey, unless that's an absolute... I absolutely, positively

got to get there. Got to be there. Friendless guys, I absolutely, positively got to get there. Got to be there. Oh, friendless guys. I love a Delta. We love to fly. It shows. I love it.

Bro. That's all. That's all I'm saying. No, Joe, I ain't saying don't get some nice things. You want some nice things, your hard work reward,

reward yourself for the hard work. Right. But at what point in time do I need to get like, I need to have 10 cars. I don't. I don't. And that's, that's,

that's the mistake of, you know, some of us make. You don't need, we don't need a Lambo truck, a Cullinan truck, a Ferrari, a Lambo truck, a Cullinan truck, a Ferrari, a Lambo, a Bentley, a G-Wagon.

Do we really need all that, Ocho? We don't. We never do. We don't. But you know when you're young? You do. You want to live like the rappers, even though you make 10 times more than the rappers, and you see them with all the chains and the cars and the... Oh, IG.

Sometimes IG have me question myself. It's like, well, damn. I be calling my people, hey, y'all ain't paying me enough. Hey. Because how they got all... I'm like, how every rapper fly private? Don't fall for that

I know they not cause I see a lot of rappers on my flight I do I'm talking about big name ones and a lot of these ones that ain't got no big name

they probably I'm like well he okay ain't none of my business we go broke because of that identity

that image we try to portray, not only while we're playing, but once we stop playing, when the checks stop rolling in. Yeah. You keep spending, I mean, you ain't got that kind of money coming in. It's impossible. It's impossible to keep up with that lifestyle. Impossible. Yes. Imagine, it was a time, you know, just for context for people at home,

and I can tell you now it don't matter now. It was a time every goddamn Monday, I'm making $350,000 a week. Can you imagine making $350,000 a week? Next most idea? Mesh. Man, I'm looking at dudes now, you know, they living they life. I can imagine what them checks look like. You making $350 every month.

Imagine what they got, $60 million. What that check look like? Looking like today. But this is the problem, is in today's game, they're paying the young bulls much more money, right? But the young bulls today, they feeling like, well, damn, I'm making this much money, but it's just going out and they're not paying attention. The more you get, people say, well, you know, if you give me more money, then I'll be all right. But if you ain't got no financial discipline, it don't matter what they give you, you still going to overspend. And when you're going to pick up, man, there won't be nothing left.

You got to think about people in the chat. You can just think about this. Think about wherever you're from. Think about people that you know personally. They could be in the streets or could be business. They had money at one time, at one point. I'm talking about it was on top of the world. Where they at now?

You got many stories. You know, you ain't got to say no name. You can just think about the stories. Yeah. I think about the stories Yeah I think about all the times I had homeboys call Hit me up That I played with

Can you let me hold five Can you let me hold ten And that way They made way more money Than I did Ocho Man What's that going to do for you though That ain't nothing

Me giving you five grand Me giving you ten grand Ain't going to do nothing Because you're going to be Right back in the same position again anyway. Guess what? Because that's what you said. What did you say?

Give. Because I don't lend money anymore. I'll only give money back. I know that I'm not going to get back. Yeah. I know you're not going to give it back. Because why the hell you come to me in the first place? Right. Because, hey, when I to me in the first place? Right.

Because, hey, when I was in the league, hey, man, let your boy hold $2,500. I say, man, if you, hey, go to the bank. They're like, man, the bank going to want their ish back. I don't want my phone money back. What the hell you mean? The bank want theirs. I want mine. You know what I stopped doing?

I said, you know what? Hey, here's your one-time withdrawal. Right, and that's it. One time, huh? That's it. That's your one-time withdrawal. Well, shoot, since we're on the topic of money, man, I can go ahead and keep that $5,200.

I owe you, huh? Oh, no. Oh, no. Mm-mm. Oh, I don't know who told you that. Oh, no. And my money's drawing interest in your pocket. That's fine.

That's fine. That's fine. I can take that little $52,000, put it in a CD. Yeah. Because right now, the CD is really good. Now, the interest rate's about to come down, so to speak. Yeah, they're going to come down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But see, no, no, no, no. I need that. I'm going to put that thing in a little money market, pay me a little 4%, 5%. Right. I mean, it ain't much. Oh, no, no. I need that. I'm going to pay a little money market. Pay me a little 4, 5%. Right. I mean, it ain't much. Oh, it's some. It's some.

But listen, how much interest is it going to be when I pay you on February 6th? It's $5,200 right now. I'm charging you $1.35 a day. Damn, $1.35? Yeah. $1.35? Where did $1.35 a day. Damn, $1.35? Yeah. $1.35? Where'd $1.35 come from? $1.35, that's my interest rate.

5%? Hey, 5%? Hey, 5% on $5,200? That's true. That's, you know what Ocho says, is you set it. That's two. That's, you know what Ocho says is you set it five cents a day. I'm trying to set it

five cents a day. Because 5% on $5,200 and that was 10%, that would be $520. So that would be $260 for half, 5%. So $260, yeah, set it five cents.

Okay. Okay. How about, you know what? I owe you $5,200. How about I just give you $6,000? Matter of fact, we're going to start the show like that. Okay. We're going to start the show with me paying you $6,000.

I'm going to give you $6,000. I'm going to give you $6,000 flat to start the show. Just to show that I paid you money. I sure appreciate that. Man, I'm sure happy for that. Listen, I'm only able to pay you by the grace of God, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I'm able to pay you by the grace of God.

I got 50 lamb jobs, and I'm in a good space right now. I'm in a good space, and I'm feeling good. Well, I'm going to have them deduct like 60 from your money. Okay. 60 from your money. Oh, God. Hey. Not bad, but hey. But, yeah, that's the thing, Ocho.

I just wish, these guys now, Ocho, with what they know now and the money that you can invest and the return that you can get. Yeah, yeah, but also. But get somebody, you know, get somebody that's trustworthy. Trust me. Hey, I ain't invested with no homeboy. I ain't got no file. Hey, uh-uh, because you know, get somebody that's trustworthy. Trustworthy. Hey, I ain't invested with no homeboy.

I ain't got no file. Hey, uh-uh. Because you know Ocho a lot of times, hey, man, I ain't invested in no club. No. Oh, nah, bro. No, I need to go. I need, hey. Mm-mm.

Mm-mm. Because you know everybody got an idea of what to do with your money. Oh, yeah, always. Man, if I had your money. Yeah. It's never there. I'd flip it. Listen, they never had proof of flipping their own and it being successful.

Yeah, but want to use mine. Ain't happening. I never struggled once I left the NFL. You know why, Ocho? Because you and Chief liked me. No, because football was what I did. It wasn't who I was. I never lost who I was. I understood. Come on, man. That football was a part of my life. It wasn't who I was I never lost who I was I understood come on now that football was a part

of my life it wasn't my life right was I dedicated to it absolutely right but it wasn't your identity no no no I was a small kid from rural south Georgia I was Mayport's grandson. I was Sterling and Cheryl Sharp's brother. I'm the youngest of three. A very disciplined, determined, and dedicated young man. I knew what I wanted from a very young age. I wanted my kids to not have to worry about things that I had to worry about as a kid. I didn't want them to spend one day in a life that I had to worry about as a kid. I didn't want them to spend one day in a life that I had to spend

20 years in. They wasn't equipped like that. So how do I make that happen? I had a singular focus. A singular focus. Because I knew once it was over, it was going to be over, Joe. That's why I never like, man,

man, I wish I could have got me. No, I gave it everything I had. 14 years, I got, look here, Ocho. I squeezed all the orange, got juice. I ate the inside, and then I took the pill and got zest. I got everything out of that orange. And when I was done got my shoulder pads I remember

Doug West and Chip said hey 84 you want your shoulder pads put them in a box put my helmet put my shoes cleaned out my locker you know what

I need to make sure before they send it to me they get rid of all those magazines and those pictures that I got in my locker where you don't have you know they send it to me to get rid of all those magazines and those pictures that I got in my locker room. You know, they see me, I had a little song. I need to get rid of those.

I don't want them coming to the houses. And somebody if I had those, I had to get up and get them. But that's the biggest thing. I think sometimes, a lot of times, Ocho, people's identity is tied to the sport that they play. Yeah. And they get lost. who am I without it? Who am I?

What am I? Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that.

May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company,

the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing,

technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair.

And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.

Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see. or wherever you get your podcasts. Ali's life and legacy through never-before-heard audio recordings and discussions with those who knew him best. Muhammad had this real sense of his own personal values and principles, things he believed in, his own sense of conviction. Those convictions never wavered. Hosted by Muhammad's wife, Lani Ali, and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster, John Ramsey. Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations

with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. Ocho, check this out. Talk to me. Tyreek Hill released his rank of the top 10 quarterbacks this season. It's on your screen.

He got two at number one. Lamar Jackson. Hey! Josh Allen, three. Dak Prescott, four. Jerry Goff, five. Brock Purdy, six. Jalen Hurts, seven.

Kirk Cousins, eight. Jane Daniels, nine. Bo Nix, ten. Hold on, hold on Jalen Hurts, 7. Kirk Cousins, 8. Jane Daniels, 9. Bo Nix, 10. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Now, what we need to talk about, before you say anything, Tyreek, when did you make this list? Because I see Kirk Cousins on there, and I'm not sure at what point you made this list,

but it couldn't have been just now or recently. It couldn't have been. In fact, I disregard everything he said because he got his quarterback one. Coach O, let me ask you a question. If you got the number one quarterback in the NFL, you trying to get up

out of there? He ain't going nowhere. Do you say that? No. Oh, hey there. Unless you go right there, if quarterback ain't number one. Now, let's understand and remember his frustrations about doing cardio for three quarters and understand why he said that. And they put a camera in front of his face before he could calm down.

Remember, when we go to the rookie symposium, what did the first lady tell you? If you're angry, don't go to the media. Calm yourself down. take a deep breath but no soon as the game ends camera right in his face he's still upset what does he say he answers emotionally and says things he shouldn't say does he actually mean it at that time probably but once he comes down and gets back in his right state of mind god damn it i shouldn't say that because the mere fact that even that you actually... The mere fact...

I'm talking about how bad... Even though... And we're going to talk about this. Even when Trav wasn't getting targets, you think Travis

wanted to leave Patrick Mahomes? Nah. Nah, I... The mere fact that he got one omission on that, I don't see the guy.

Now, this guy, in the last four years, five years, he's won three Super Bowls, three Super Bowl MVPs and two MVPs, and he ain't on this list. And you mean to tell me you thought Kirk Cousins, you thought Bart Purdy, you thought Dak Prescott, you thought Tua had a better season, and he had a bad season based on who he is. And you think those guys had a better season than him? Listen, and that's what I'm talking about. I guarantee

you this list isn't recent. I guarantee you it's not. I guarantee you it's not. You know? We pulled it up for three years ago. Right, but I'm just saying, unless this list was made to do exactly... Bo Nix is on the list.

Bo Nix just got into the league this year. Jay Danielix just got into the league this year. Yeah, but listen, that's what I'm trying to say. Jay Daniel just got into the league this year. He made this list for this very specific reason,

for us to be talking and engaging about his list, about said list. Yes. I like it. I like it. I like, listen,

I like everybody, I like everybody on there. I don't, I don't like, I don't like the Kirk Cousins. I like the Kirk Cousins based on the way- You like Dak Prescott, the guy that missed 10 games. Yeah, I like Dak. What you talking about?

I'm not worried about him. I'm not talking about him missing the game. I like Dak. We talking about body of work. We talking about resume. What body? Hey, don't, don't, listen. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't disrespect Dak like that.

Don't do that. He ain't got, hold on. He ain't got your guy. Hold on. You've been on me all year long about Joe Burrow. Yeah, but you know, you know, Rico ain't no Bengals fan. He don't even watch us.

He ain't no fan of nobody. He should be a fan. He should have a tour, and Snoop should have been number two. Wait, who? The backup quarterback, Huntley. I mean, he's... You've been on.

You've been on. You need to start like Joe. He ain't got Joe on there. Yeah, because this is his own personal preference on who he feels. We can't fault a man for putting up his preference on his opinion on who his top ten is. Now, if we talk about quarterbacks, our top 10 is going to look different. Here's the list.

The moment he said Tua was better than Mahomes, we should have disregarded everything when it comes to quarterback that come out of his mouth. So it's null and void after that, huh? Yes. Yes. Because that's so egregious. Ocho, Tua's mom and dad won't say Tua's better than Mahomes, boy.

You won't find nobody in Miami. Put it like this here. If your fan base would trade your quarterback for Mahone's, Lamar Baltimore ain't trading, Josh Allen, but everybody else on this list, I guarantee you, they would trade their quarterback for Mahone's. You think Dallas would take Mahomes over Dak?

You think Atlanta would take him over Kirk Cousins? Philly would take Mahomes over Jalen Hurts? San Fran would absolutely take him over Brock Purdy. Detroit would absolutely take him. Oh, I got one

for you. Who? Will the Commanders take him over Oh, I got one for you. Who? Will the Commanders take him over Jaden Daniels? Yeah, go ahead and think about that. What? I would. Yeah, hell yeah. The only two, well, only one, Lamar. Because here's the thing.

You would have to run the offense. See, the thing is, Josh Dak, that's a drawback. Jared Goff, drawback. He runs a very similar West Coast style system to what they run in San Francisco. To what they run in Atlanta. So there ain't going to be a whole lot

of drop-off. Can you imagine my homeboy with Saquon behind him and AJ and Devontae you remember when he had Tyreek and Sammy Watkins right oh yeah okay

okay okay can you imagine if he had Jalen Waddle Tyreek Hill John John Newsmith, and A-Chan? That's nasty. Yeah. I don't see no Mahomes.

I don't see no Joe Burrow. And you got some guys up there, Reek. We wish you well. Chargers head coach Jim Harbaugh said today that he'll have a cardio ablation this offseason and hip replacement surgery. Ocho, remember I was having a conversation with you? I said, I know that walk. I've seen that walk several times. And you did say that not long ago on the show.

I know that walk. I know I got to have that walk for the better part of three years. It's painful, huh? What? Hold on. Wait a minute now. Wait a minute. If he's getting the surgery, if he's going to get it now,

what's the timetable as far as healing, and will he be able to coach? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll be fine. He's fine. I mean, Ocho, I had the surgery. The first surgery I had on a Saturday, I had on a saturday um i was doing squats and lunges that following thursday what oh yeah oh yeah oh it ain't no now for me they uh uh uh the pt told me say take a little uh take a little um some ambient you know not ambient ambient take

some uh top pain medicine yeah i took a couple of Tylenol something like that because he said we're gonna put it through he's gonna be a little painful you gotta realize Ocho you got that incision and you got the surgery the uh the artificial hip that's in there right you know you're gonna have to bite down you know i had a towel i had to bite down on that towel Ocho because there's tears rolling down your boy's eyes but i knew sometimes people wait too late. Right. And it gets, you know, you don't get that flexibility in there.

Right. I wanted the flexibility immediately. And so I had to bite the bullet. But, you know, Ocho, as a professional athlete, you know we have stuff like that. You don't know what it's like to be injured. And so you probably hadn't had to do a whole lot of rehab other than a little sprained ankle. Right. But if you've had surgery, if you've gone through things, you kind of know what it's like.

And so it only took me, Ocho, I was back working out. They normally say, OK, six weeks. I was back working out in four weeks. But I was squatting four days, five days after I actually had the surgery, squatting and lunging. So hold on. I'm confused. Now, after you get these surgeries, are the rods or whatever they put in place? Oh, they're there.

So, what happens? Does it affect you when you're in cold weather? No. No. You will never have pain in that because there's no bone. There's nothing to be arthritic. So, you're going to be great.

And like the doctor told me, he said, you won't believe how well you feel after you have this surgery. Everybody that's ever had this surgery that I've spoken to. Right. They rave about it. They rave about it. It is.

If you have if you have hip pain and the thing is, some people young as is Titus. I see you, buddy. Some people as young as 27, 28 are having total hip replacement. At 27, 28, huh? Yeah. Come on. If it gets chronic, if it gets bad enough, Ocho, oh, you get it done. Hold on.

Because I put it off. Ocho, I got the injection. I got the steroids injection. I got all that stuff, Ocho. But eventually that pain got, then it felt like they was giving me a placebo. It didn't even do anything. The pain medication that they was injecting in there, the steroid, it wasn't doing anything to help.

So I just did that and got it done with. But Coach Harbaugh, you're going to be just fine. Being the next professional athlete like yourself and being as hard-headed as you are, I know you're going to put the time into rehab and you'll be back up and running. You'll be glad you had this surgery. I promise you that pain that you feel.

I don't know if he's taking any pain medication, but the pain that he feels, he won't feel it anymore. I promise you that, Ocho. Hold on. I'm still thinking about that. You talk about people that's 27, 28, probably never played contact sports, never played at the highest level as far as NFL is concerned. How do you have hip problems at such an early age?

Sometimes it's degenerative. Sometimes it's degenerative. You're just born with it. You know, look, my sister had both of hers. She ain't never played no surgery. No volleyball, tennis, nothing? Nothing, nothing. Had both of them replaced.

My brother had his replaced. About to have a. Nothing. Nothing. Had both of them replaced. My brother had his replaced. About to have a knee replaced. I've had both of mine replaced. Obviously, if you're a professional athlete, the bounding out of the jumper, a triple jumper and a long jumper in high school, played sports since I was nine years of age, obviously. All that pounding up and down, playing basketball all those years, obviously, yes.

But sometimes, you know, you're just, you know, you're just born. I mean, think about all the people that never played a sport that's having knee replacement or hip replacement. Right. It just happened. But like I said, sometimes it's a situation where you have an accident, a car accident, a motorcycle accident, and the hip is destroyed. You got to get another one.

Sometimes it's degenerative. You just never know. But I just know you're glad you do because glad you once you have that surgery. I know you're glad you are glad you did because it's so damn painful right now. I don't mean to be in anybody's personal business. I mean, I don't mean to be in your pockets. Now, when we talk about these type of surgeries, what type of are we talking about? Uh, mine, uh, this was, I had my first one.

I'm trying to think. I think I had my first one in July of 2020. Yeah. Like 104,000. Oh, man, man, hell no.

Hey, that hip don't have to stay like that. No, it won't. Oh, no. The volume. Hip don't have to stay like that. Oh, no. The volume.

The made for this mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during mental health awareness month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood,

CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content. The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.

Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.