Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Myles Garrett becomes the highest paid non QB, Davante Adams to the Rams, & Ocho riding horses
Episode Date: March 10, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Myels Garrett becoming the highest paid non QB, Davante Adams signing with the Rams, & Ocho rides horses with the family! Our brand... new segment is back, Spark it or Skip it, & much more!07:41 - Myles Garrett becomes highest paid non-quarterback 27:26 - Sauce Garner on current cornerbacks33:42 - Davante Adams to Rams36:28 - Joey Bosa in talks with 49ers 39:13 - Crazy Eagles tattoo45:29 - Ocho riding horses in the Dominican Republic 57:25 - Spark it or Skip It 2:03:10 Bowling Green names Eddie George as new coach 1:14:30 - Track runner hit with baton1:19:25 - Q&Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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to make him the highest paid non-quarterback.
That title had been Max Crosby for all of 24 hours.
The new deal comes after Garrett requested a trade
and Browns owner Jimmy Jimmy Haslam, reportedly
refused to meet with him. Well, they reached an agreement today on a record contract extension
that averages $40 million per year and includes a $123.5 million in guaranteed money,
now makes him the highest paid non-quarterback in NFL history. It also guarantees him $100 million in the first three years.
It gives him $1 million off-season workout bonus.
Garrett agent,
Nicole Lynn of clutch sports finalized the deal today.
Oh,
let me guess.
I guess LeBron has something to do with that
because y'all consider Rich Paul
can't do nothing without LeBron.
Right.
But Nicole, congratulations.
Clutch, Rich, congratulations.
I'd like to see us win.
I'd like to see us do big things.
And I'll pull for you guys.
Congratulations on the contract.
You two miles
because you're the one that had to put the work in.
But I'm glad you got something that you feel comfortable with.
And, hey, you're going back.
You're staying in Cleveland.
Yeah.
And listen, a lot of people say, I saw a tweet today.
I looked at him.
The tweet was along the lines of, I thought he wanted to go to a winning team.
Or we stayed for the money?
I thought championships were all that mattered.
And I thought about it
and I saw that... To some people.
Yeah, to some people. I mean, listen,
championships are a great thing.
Obviously, it's a team achievement.
But to be on a team where you're afforded
the opportunity and the chance to actually compete
for a championship
is a great thing
but it doesn't happen
for everybody.
Everybody
No.
Everybody
Everybody shouldn't win a championship
if every great player
won a championship
what's the significance
of winning a championship then?
If everybody
if every great player
was guaranteed to win one.
Yeah.
That's what makes
the championship so special
because everybody
isn't guaranteed if sometimes lesser tier players win one or That's what makes the championship so special because everybody isn't guaranteed
if sometimes lesser tier players
win one or multiple.
Okay.
Happens.
It does.
But I know one thing,
if Hazem gave him that conversation
and he got up out of Cleveland
and was on the open market,
I mean, that deal would look
a lot bigger
than what it does now, even though it is
great.
Yeah.
Man.
I think Ojo looking.
I think he had another year or two years
left on his contract, but he had no more guaranteed
money.
See, you go ask
nicely, they go like, nah, you signed the contract.
You say trade me, and
you know suitors are going to be lined up by the yin-yang.
Yeah.
Especially for that type of player.
Absolutely.
It won't work for everybody
now. No.
You notice some people ask for a trade, and you see
what they did? Okay, yeah, you can get that that here you go yeah and and and people like and i know people like well
you know he said this and bro everybody gonna be tom brady take less money and then tom brady
making more now than he did when he played football per year now what nfl what other
player you think you're gonna be able to make a car get a car get a get a job like that
make it down there 40 million a year for the next 10 years,
or get a Tony Romo deal, make it $17 million,
or Troy Aikman make it $19 million.
Guys, you have to understand,
everybody is not in a position to turn down boatloads of money
in hopes of winning a championship.
There is no guarantee that even if you take less money
or you go somewhere, you're going to win.
I got no problem.
Yeah, I know what he said.
I heard what he said.
I was listening to it.
But it is what it is.
Everybody's not going to be fortunate enough to win a championship.
Everybody's not going to be fortunate enough to win their careers up, Ocho,
to go get a job to make this much, if not more money,
than they did when they were playing.
$100 million over the next
three years? How old is Miles Garrett?
29?
28, 29?
Young boy. 29. Young boy, he's not
even 30 yet?
Yeah. Come on, bro.
Man, please.
What y'all talking about?
I don't know what they talking about either.
Money talk, cash screens.
I don't know where y'all from,
but you're going to get $100 million
the next three years.
Okay.
$100 million.
It's a beautiful
morning.
Maybe I'll chase
the ring later in my
career.
After I made
200 million.
Yeah.
Now you're talking.
Now I can sacrifice
a little bit of money
and hopes of going
to a team that's
close and maybe
they need a 34, a 33, 34-year-old pass rusher,
a la Vaughn Miller.
Turns into a hired gun.
But, nah.
No team may have been hit harder today than the Bengals.
Miles Garrett, $40 million per year,
extension reset to both pass rushing market
and the benchmark for the highest
paid non-quarterback. You see what
happens, Ocho? Yeah. See, if you did this
early, if you did something with Trey
Henderson early, you ain't got to worry about it.
If you did something with Chase, Chase
has 17 other yards and 17 touchdowns.
No receiving history. He's never had that many
receiving yards and that many touchdowns.
And then he climbed by
with the triple crowd. You got to pay double for that.
Matter of fact,
you got to pay double for that.
And your GM said,
he's going to be
the highest paid non-quarterback.
That's it.
But hey,
see sometimes,
every time you open your mouth,
a toe pop out
because your foot in your mouth.
Bloop.
Highest paid,
bloop.
Non-bloop.
Mike Brown,
cheap ass,
oh my bad.
Mike Brown, cheap ass, cheap ass. Hey, I'm blue. Mike Brown, cheap-ass. Oh, my bad. Mike Brown, cheap-ass.
Hey, why are you talking?
You gave away my money.
Hey, you know when you're a kid,
and you just go,
I see kids in the store,
they just putting stuff on the counter.
They're parents.
Put that back.
They're putting more stuff up there.
No, I say put it back.
Don't put no more up here.
That's what Toby did to Mike Brown.
Whoa, whoa. it back don't put no more up here that's what toby did to mike brown whoa whoa now you know you got a trade trade yeah he done saw two one guy get 35 million and another guy
got 40 million and you think i'm gonna sign for anything less than 30 plus million oh no i wish
i might yeah and let's date they don't they don't have no choice but to pay.
And you already franchised T.
And you see, the thing is that when you give players bonus,
you can spread that over the life of the contract, Ocho.
Right.
So, you know, now, in other words, you prorate it.
Well, with T, it's a one-year deal.
Where are you going to spread it?
You can't.
So now you're stuck with a $26 million cap here.
Chase, you're going to have to get Chase.
Chase is going to be looking to get $100 million over the first three years.
Yeah, we got to.
You ain't got no choice but to do right.
And they not finna play.
They not finna play.
Who is agent?
I'm not sure who his agent is.
I'm not sure.
But whoever his agent is ain't finna play either.
Especially with what happened last season.
Absolutely not.
Bro, all I'm going about is what you told me.
You told me Chase was going to be the highest paid non-quarterback.
I didn't ask for that.
That's what you said.
Now, if it's a lie, you said it.
Do I need to...
Hey, and we're in a few good men
when they asked Colonel Jessup,
when Kathy asked Colonel Jessup, do you need
me to play back what you said? He said,
no, I know what I said.
You said, hey, men follow orders or people die.
That's what he said.
Yeah.
So did you think, you know, this old man don't know what he's talking about.
Let's do.
No.
No, Kathy.
Men follow orders or people die.
Yep.
Okay.
Oh, Chase got
Rock. Rocky Arsenal.
Okay, okay, okay.
I'm not surprised
because Rocky is from New Orleans
area. He had Marshall Falk.
He has Zeke.
He got T. Higgins also.
So I... Rock will get
the money. Getiggins also. So I... Rock will get the money.
Get that money, Rock.
Get that money.
Ocho.
Yeah.
DK Metcalf.
33 million a year.
What you think T. asking for now?
See?
You see what I mean?
Now, listen.
As my Bengal fans,
they've been getting on my head too now.
They've been getting on my head, talking about, what you doing?
You always talking, you know, we want T here, and it sounds like you don't.
No, what I want for T to do is to get as much money as he can.
After getting franchise tag one year, any year, me, I— I ain't giving no discounts.
Yeah, I'm—
Ocho, not my first big contract.
Maybe down the road.
But I can't give you a break the first time out the gate.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, I say it all the time, but for selfish reasons, you know,
fans of certain teams are only focused on what's best for the team
and not what's best for the player itself.
That's the mindset.
As much as I love my Bengals, you know, from orange to the black, from the who to the they,
I just want the individual because I understand what it took to get where he is.
I understand what it's like to be franchise tag and feeling like a player like, well, damn, you don't value me.
You don't value what I bring to the table, you know, because to me, most of the time,
you know, you're franchising the first year.
That's all it says.
Because if you did value me, you would pay me.
And I go again.
You know who else watching this with big eyes?
Yeah.
Who that?
David Muguleta.
You know who that is?
That's Micahons' agent.
Oh my goodness. Hey,
Michael did it for the
Stu.
You see what happens when you wait till the
umpteenth hour on joke? You did that with Dak.
You had to pay him $60 million.
You did it with CD. You had to
give him $34 million. Now, Michael
Parsons, he says he does. Now,
we're going to put to the test
what he said, if it's true or not,
about not wanting to be the highest paid
defensive player.
We're going to put that to the test.
Because guess what, Ocho?
We've seen Miles Garrett
get two contracts.
Both of them made him the
highest paid at the time. he was he was eventually surpassed
but for twice michael says hey i would like to have just one of those on my resume right
oh he gonna get it it's gonna be a lot of it too
it's gonna be a lot of it too it's gonna be a lot of it oh yeah and rightfully so but the bingos did this to themselves
oh joe yeah by by franchising t and then and see that's what happens now dk gets this t say bro
y'all think y'all about to give me less than 30 million really how many is that what y'all thinking? Chase says, hey, y'all see what
Miles got?
I'm going to need five more million.
I need 105 guaranteed.
The first...
Yeah, 35. I need 35.
So basically, I need
35. I need that fully guaranteed.
The first three years, I need 105
million.
Yeah.
I need that fully guaranteed.
I would need $130.
I would need $130 guaranteed,
but I would need $105
of that fully guaranteed.
So no matter what,
come hell or high water.
Right.
I'd be on a rowboat,
but I know I got
$105 million coming.
Which is going to be it?
A rowboat.
Bad please.
Oh, that's funny.
You know what?
I'm happy for all these dudes, man.
Yeah.
I'm happy for all these dudes.
All the work they put in.
You know, on the outside, the people, the fans, the people in the chat that watch the game,
you're fans of certain teams.
You only get to see the finished product.
You get to see the finished product on Sundays.
You don't understand what goes into it.
What goes into it to get to this point to where they're making this kind of money.
You just see the finished product on Sundays.
Them catching play, them catching passes, them getting sacks, them throwing touchdowns.
I understand the work that goes into it, which is why I get so happy every time
somebody gets that bag like that.
That's why I'm an advocate
even though I'm a Bengals fan
for T getting as much as he can, where
I feel he can get more elsewhere based
on what he's done for us and what he can
do for another team if given the
chance to maximize his potential
and his earnings on his first
deal. That's all I'm saying.
I would love for it to be in Cincinnati,
but I just understand how much Burrow and Chase are going to eat up most of
the money.
And, oh, we're supposed to just give T-Push leftover?
That ain't right.
Hell no.
Even as a Bengal fan, that's not right for him.
You know?
And like Unk said saying just because you take less
doesn't guarantee anything it doesn't nope it doesn't hey hey oh you know you say don't hey
don't tell nobody what you got man they just paid me this i'm telling i ain't like i'm telling
show lives i'm telling hey there's a reason they put it out there now.
Ocho, do they still pass that shit around?
Where you see everybody on your team make,
and then everybody that plays your position around the league,
what they make, do they still do that when you was playing?
Yeah, absolutely.
Get you swole, Ocho.
You be on, like, oh, whoa.
You make it out by burning. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Get you swole, Ocho. You be on... You making that much money?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I know you walk up to the window with a ski mask. You're stealing.
They all...
Ocho, man, you know me, don't you?
Hey!
Hey!
You look at some names on there,
and you look at the number mount
next to the name
now you know he's stealing
come on now
bro you know you can't have no
pistol on no NFL property
you had to have a gun I know you
hijacking these people
come on ain't no way
you show your face up there that pay window
and you play it like this here and you making all this money.
Hey,
that shit had people, hey,
Chad, I'm telling you,
that shit had people hot.
And then you look around the league and see
what them jokers making.
Oh, hell no.
Crazy work.
Oh, yeah.
Crazy work.
But I'm excited for these dudes, man.
And it's not over.
It's not over.
It's just getting started.
I tell people, I say, look, guys in the 70s was mad at the people in the 80s.
The 80s was mad at the people in the 90s.
The 90s was mad.
It is what it is, bro.
I mean, you think about it.
Look what Kellan and Ozzy and Christensen and all those guys that came before me made.
Based on looking at what I made.
And then the guys coming around now,
guys making 17, 18.
I'm like, whoa, damn.
Bro, get your paper.
I ain't going to be, hey, I played in the era.
I made good money.
Took care of it, too.
It ain't how much you make, it's how much you keep.
I kept a little bit of mine.
Didn't make a whole lot, but I kept a lot of it.
But, man, I ain't mad at these guys here.
I ain't going to, hey, mm-mm.
All I'm saying is, like, but what it did do, Ocho,
even though I was a rookie and I saw that list, I was like, oh,
if he can make that, if he can make $400,000, I know damn well and I saw that list, I was like, oh, if he can make that,
if he can make $400,000, I know damn well
I can make $400,000.
Motivating. Yes.
That's what it did for me.
I wasn't hating. I was like,
I'm better than you right now.
Right now.
I mean, I look, I watch
these tight ends, I think like my second year, Ocho,
I made $73,000. Yeah, I made $73,000. And I, I watch these tight ends. I think like my second year or two, I made $73,000.
Yeah, I made $73,000.
And I'm looking at these tight ends.
I said, boy, you good and terrible.
I said, I hate to tell you, but you really a one drop pass away.
From being at home?
Working in a warehouse.
Yeah.
Hey, look at God work
you went from
I said boy
you went from making
$73,000
a year
to making $73,000
I was paid twice
yeah
come on now
hey
you probably make
$73,000 a day man
come on
huh
but boy
please
that never paid me $ 73,000 a day
but
but
hey
I'm gonna ask a plumb
73,000 a day
how much is that
73,000 a day they'll pay me73,000 a day? How much is that? How much is that a bus, Ash?
$73,000 a day.
They pay me $73,000 a day.
What would that be?
That's $2.2 million times 12.
That's about $26 million a year.
No, I ain't making that, Ocho.
Okay, my bad.
But I hope to one day. Yeah, my bad. But I hope to one day.
Yeah, I listen.
But I'm like, ooh.
We say all year, act a fool.
Would I?
I'm going to look here.
I don't know where I'm going, but I'm going somewhere.
I'm going somewhere. I'm going somewhere. I'm going somewhere.
I'm going to Parson.
No, I don't know where I'm going.
Man, please.
But there'll be nightcap.
There'll be night.
Hey, they might not be. They might not be nightcap for a week.
Or it might be nightcap.
Jordan have to put it up on the plane on a private jet somewhere.
But they're going to be nightcap.
The funny thing about it, I can picture you if you would make it $70,000 a day in Act of the Fool,
which is why it's so goddamn funny, because I know you would be. Yeah. If you would make it $70,000 a day and act a fool, which is why it's so goddamn funny.
Cause I know you would be.
Yeah.
Oh,
oh my goodness.
Oh man.
Man.
I ain't no one would like that.
I wasn't till I made 73,000 a day.
How was it? Bad, please okay okay that that was good that was good
ocho salt's gardener has a question for you can somebody educate me on why the cornerback market
is significant lower than a d D and a wide receiver.
Highest paid pass rusher, $40 million.
And highest paid pass rusher in the NFL, Miles Garrett, makes $40 million.
Max Cronin, $35.5 million.
Nick Bosa.
Because here's the thing, Sauce.
You can't impact the game like those guys can.
I like that you put it like that. Because see,
what you gonna do?
Not pass the ball?
If you don't pass the ball,
yeah, you're right.
You could somewhat neutralize
what Max Crosby
and the other guy do.
I can just stay away from you.
I ain't gotta throw to you.
Right.
I mean,
I mean, guys do attack you.
Now, if you was time,
like time and I, we talk all the time.
He say, he say, Shaw, if I'm playing right now, how much you think they have to pay me?
I say, what, they pay the D ends?
Exactly.
He brought a totally different dynamic to the position.
Totally different.
You know, I understand what Sauce is saying.
I do. I get it.
They might
not impact the game, but I feel
DB is the most difficult
position of them all.
It absolutely is.
It's more difficult. You're paying
receivers that know where they're going
30 north of
30, some north of
40 million,
and you're telling me
I have to go out here
and stop these elite players
week in and week out.
Why shouldn't I be
compensated as much
when I'm...
It's the hardest job
to play, Ocho.
Yeah.
Because everything you do,
you have to do it backwards.
Backwards.
And when people say,
you look at Ginger Rogers
and Fred Astaire.
Yeah.
She had a harder job because Fred Astaire leads.
She had to do everything he was doing, doing it backwards.
And she did it in heels and a ball gown.
Oh, yeah.
So you're asking a man to say, hey, you got Tyreek.
So I want you to backpedal for about five to six yards.
And then I need you to turn and run with it.
Oh, my bad.
He running the comeback.
He ain't running the goal.
Damn. Oh, he running. Oh, bad. He running the comeback. He ain't running the goal. Damn.
Oh, he running
the over. He ain't running the goal.
He ain't running the out.
Oh, you got him on the shallow cross too.
Ah, damn.
He ran a whip.
He ain't running the shallow cross.
You got all that.
That's crazy.
I totally get it.
I totally listen.
As a former DB myself,
I'm with you when you're right.
At some point,
you know,
there's going to be a DB
that's going to crack
that $40 million range.
I'm not too sure.
There'll be no time soon.
Hell,
they're barely in the 20s.
For real?
Yeah.
What did Pat Jr. get?
Pat got what?
What?
21 or 22 a year?
That's it?
I think Rams is the highest.
Isn't Rams the highest, baby?
I didn't know it was that low.
Yeah, they ain't nowhere near the 30s.
They're probably about five, six years away from the 30s
ocho that's significantly low and i'm no disrespect to the chat i'm talking about nfl nfl players so
i'm not comparing it to you know that's what we base it on yeah not compared to us normal folks
yeah yeah and that's what that's what you know a lot of time you know
people say well if i made that up, of course.
But you're looking at it from a salary that you already make.
Right.
So, yeah, of course you would go from $75,000 to $10 million or $15,000, $20 million.
But if you feel like you should get more.
Right.
Are you willing to go from $75,000 just to $82,000?
Probably not.
Geez.
Average.
Yeah, Ramsey is 24.1.
So they three years away from 30, Ocho.
You know who might be close, though?
I'm not sure when Sauce is up.
Stingley?
And I'm not sure when Derek Stingley is up,
but my God.
Boy, that goddamn Derek Stingley, boy.
Man.
Bro, he good.
But we got, hey, all I know is there's some great corners,
some young corners in this league.
Number two in Denver is the best.
Oh, yeah.
Number two the best.
That joker so smooth, man.
That joker like he glide.
Nice.
He nice.
Very nice.
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Ocho, you like this move?
Absolutely.
The funny thing, I talked
about it earlier in the show. You lose a Cooper Cup,
one of the best route runners of all
time. A triple crown, not
too far removed from that triple crown, I might add.
Then you get Poonakua comes out of nowhere.
They put him in the positions in which they
used to put Cooper Cup in.
And he's just that good. He's good.
He can play on the outside. He can play on the outside.
Big, fast. I mean, he's not blazing fast, but he's just that good he's good you can play on the outside you play on the outside big fast i mean he's not blazing fast but he's fast enough and then okay now you're losing cup
and you're able to go get davante adams have we seen davante adams before i'm not not the one
new york chess not that one not the one with las vegas raiders where they didn't use in the right
way but still get it done because i saw flashes of brilliance and what we used to see it from Devante Adams when he was a green Bay,
man,
he going to be,
he might have a little resurgence.
That's what I like to call it.
You got your money.
So there,
there's no reason for them not to use you offensively,
put you in the same position that they put Cooper cup.
You can run the same exact routes.
You can get open.
You don't need help.
One of the few receivers in the NFL,
I don't need McVay to scheme me open.
Tell me what you want me to do
and let me show you. Watch me go do it.
He's surgical with them feet and that.
Oh yeah, for sure.
Always had that.
I like this
matchup and he has a guy that can get into football.
He can put
the football in places that's going to give you a chance
to run. Because that's the difference.
Is that a lot of guys can hit you, but
can you hit me with the ability to run?
Then I don't have to break my stride
pattern.
Yeah. You look at
the way Joe throws Chase.
Chase catches the ball, he just takes off.
He can do so much when he
got the ball in his hands.
He can throw a receiver when he got the ball in his hands. Yes.
And he can throw a receiver a five-yard out, a slant, a hit,
and there's a chance that they might go hit the head off the goalpost.
Yep.
Man, stop playing.
Yeah.
Stop playing.
And you look at, like I said, we've talked about receivers.
You know, you got McDuffie in Kansas City.
He coming up in a couple of years, Ocho.
Yeah.
You got Stingley.
You'll have to see Stingley.
Yeah.
So I don't know if Sauce has done anything.
I probably have to do something with Sauce here shortly.
Yeah.
But I like the move.
I like Tay going to the Rams. Yeah, I do. I like it a lot. Especially for the offense. The like Tate going to the Rams.
Yeah, I do.
I like it a lot.
Especially for the offense.
The offense is not going to miss a beat.
They're not going to miss a beat.
Joey Bosa and the 49ers are having good conversation,
and this feels like it's heading towards a deal.
Nothing is done, but Bosa Brothers wants to be together
and probably will get that this year,
which likely means it will be a moderate deal with heavy incentives.
The 49ers can offer Joey playing time,
but also a role where he doesn't have to put wear and tear on his body,
which could keep him healthy for the duration of a season.
He had, um, Ocho, he, uh.
Has that ever happened before?
When he's in there, he'll wreck her.
You know. But he's in there he can he'll he'll wreck her he's you know
but he's missed 40 games yeah and he still has 72 sacks over his career
so it just goes to show you when he's on the field he can make a difference yeah we just
got to keep his ass on the field yeah has this ever happened before i know there have been two
brothers played together play togethered together. I know.
I can't not have to talk about it.
That's amazing.
I mean, I think that's dope.
Just the fact that you have the opportunity.
No, I don't think Preston and Drew Pearson was brothers.
I don't think they were brothers, Ocho.
I think they just had the same last name.
Have two brothers ever played together
oh yeah the Griffin brothers in Seattle
oh
yeah Dog and Hackett I forget that
that wasn't even that long ago
yeah that wasn't even that long ago
hold on
what about Derrick and TJ Watt
one with a fullback in Pittsburgh, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Not in the NFL.
Rondé was in Tampa
and Tiki was in New York.
Oh, yeah.
The McCourty brothers.
Remember that trade?
He won that left to Tennessee
and went up going to new england
that's right he did yep bill did bring him over there that's right that's right
yeah but i like it uh hopefully they get it done i mean they seem to want to play with each other
i don't think they played was he there when i don't think he uh nick wasn't there when joy
was at ohio state he came to year joy left and nick came or was Nick a freshman when Joey left That's exciting
That has to be exciting
The Jets and Quinny Williams
And the linebacker Williams
They're brothers right
56 and 95
They are
I thought so yeah and 95. They are?
I thought so, yeah.
Quinny and Quincy.
But I like this.
Ocho. Yeah.
Eagle standout rookie
Quinion Mitchell got a wild
tattoo after winning the Super Bowl.
Hell of a year. Wow. a standout rookie, Quinn Yon Mitchell, got a wild tattoo after winning the Super Bowl. That's it.
Hell of a year.
Wow.
Round one,
pick,
20,
what, 22?
Is that 22?
Super Bowl champs.
That's a lot.
Got a lot done in one day
till next time, bro.
Woo!
Hey, that's live.
He's earned the right.
I don't care if I win 15 Super Bowls.
I ain't getting nothing.
What?
Hell no.
That thing hurt.
You ain't got no tattoos?
See?
Now we can add that to the list of things
to do in 2025.
Get your tattoo.
What that mean?
Help you, buddy.
Nah, that ain't finna happen.
Hey, it's so funny.
I mean, when I think about it, I would think someone like you would have tattoos.
Then my crazy, my crazy tale.
I got 44.
And you just talk about you ain't got none.
I thought the only time I ever thought about getting a tattoo.
What's her name?
I found, I found notes.
Name, right?
Mary Porter.
Mary V. Porter.
That's her name.
And my sister, because I was telling my sister about it, and my sister was like,
Shannon, that'd be so nice.
My sister found something where my grandmother wrote her name, Mary V. Porter.
And I thought about it.
I said, little bit, I would love to.
I said, but you know, Granny would be so mad.
She hated tattoos.
Okay, okay.
She's like, son, don't mark your body up. Okay, I got you. You know, you got them old people talking about me. Okay. Okay. She's like, son, she's like, son, don't mark your body up.
Okay.
I got it.
You know,
the more we got,
the more people talk about.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Like I'm actually drawing on my body.
Like I'm scribbling something.
And I,
and I thought about it and I had,
I had the piece of the,
uh,
the thing that she,
uh,
uh,
that she had wrote her name on and I was going to take it to a tattoo and have it put it right over my heart.
That's what I put it right here.
And I just thought about it. I said, man,
Granny, man, Granny probably
be, boy, Granny roll over in her grave.
I could just hear her now, son. Why you
mark your body like that?
Even her name, she still would be
satisfied.
Listen, my grandma,
maybe I don't know if I was
15 or 16,
but I got
Philippians 4.13.
I could do
all things through Christ would strengthen me.
And I got a test. When I came home,
oh, she was pissed,
boy.
Oh, she was pissed. I. Boy, she was pissed.
I was like, well, listen, I just thought about, you know, something I would like,
something that would resonate with me and resonate with you as well,
because you're the one who had me in Bible study.
You're the one who had me in church every Sunday.
Boy, she was hot.
Not only was she hot, years later, I got about my senior year in high school,
I was probably up to 22 tattoos by that
point what yeah i'm i'm covered up everywhere i just you never see it because i'm normally
covered up so if you see certain pieces you pay it yeah i'm to my blackness yeah it's hard to see
in the dark that was you covered up with and I'm covered up Everywhere man From my ankle All the way up man
To my
Yeah
I almost did my face
By accident too
I'm glad I didn't
Boy please
No nothing big
Nothing big
You know small
Small small small stuff
But I
I didn't do it
Nah
You did the right thing
Don't do that Ocho
Why would you do that Ocho
I
I'm just
I'm I don't, I don't know.
I don't know. You thought about it. You ain't had nothing
better to do with your time.
I really did. I really did think about it.
I did. I did.
I was going through a phase.
I was going through a phase. What was her name?
I was going to put her
on my face?
Yeah. I was going to put her on a little cross.
A little tiny cross. No, no woman,
a little tiny cross right here,
right here on the side.
Right here.
Just a little tiny cross.
Yeah.
I ain't,
I ain't do it though.
I ain't do it.
It wouldn't look too good on TV.
You know?
Yeah,
no,
no,
it was,
I couldn't do that.
I mean,
I mean,
congratulations to,
uh, Quinn, y'all. I mean, Hey bro, do that. I mean, congratulations to Quinion.
I mean, hey, bro.
Congrats.
I mean, first-round pick, first rookie season, go to the bowl.
You know, a lot of times, don't you, when you have that level of success,
you're like, man, this is easy.
No, it ain't.
Trust me, bro. There are a lot of guys that play 13, 14, 15 years and never go,
let alone win.
I mean, just think about you're a Chiefs player, and you came here three years ago.
You don't know nothing about Super Bowl.
Yeah.
And winning.
Yeah.
You played with Tom Brady all those years.
That's live.
Somebody said about Amber Rose.
Yeah. Amber Rose got her sons tattooed on her forehead hey
and you can't she can get rid of that though right because technology is so advanced now you can act
yeah you get rid of them but man that thing hurt she ain't getting rid of them i mean i don't know
if you saw the interview or so she keep it it was good it was good it was real yeah i mean i mean
oh so for me i like talking to people like a lot of these people.
I had no and I had no idea I would ever meet. Right. Right.
To talk to a Tabitha Brown or Miss Pat or Amber Rose.
People like some of these athletes, man, I'm sitting down, I'm talking to Magic Johnson.
Crazy. Talking to Cat and Donnell Rollins and all these
comedians and Gary Owen
and Bruce Bruce and LaVell Crawford. I've seen
Bruce Bruce many times perform in
Atlanta. Wait. And to sit
down and talk to him. And you're right.
You have a perception. And
then when you get down and talk to the person
and I'm not talking about so much
on camera. I'm talking about you get an opportunity to talk to him
before and after. Then you have, I'm like, about so much on camera. I'm talking about you get an opportunity to talk to them before and after.
Then you have, I'm like, okay.
Okay.
Okay.
An interesting video came out of the Dominican Republic this weekend,
a chat.
Take a look.
Let's see what this thing talking about.
Hey. Oh, Lord have mercy. Take a look. Let's see what this thing talking about.
Hey.
Oh, Lord have mercy.
Hey, you know.
We need black cowboy. You know I can ride?
You know I rode a bull.
I can ride horses, man.
I rode two.
Oh, yeah.
I can ride like this.
She was a filly, though.
You know what I'm saying?
Don't joke.
I was just like thatcho I was just like that
I was just like that too Ocho
Just like that
I had one hand out too Ocho
Just like that
Yeah yeah
Listen
Hey I went on the trail ride obviously
I had the kids with me
The baby had her own horse
All my kids had their own horse So I'm on the trail I told the kids with me. The baby had her own horse. All my kids had their own horse.
So I'm on the trail.
I told the guy on the trail, I said, sir, listen, I know how to ride.
I have experience.
So if at any point I might drift off the trail, most of the time the trail horses, they discipline.
They don't want to leave.
They always want to stand in line.
Man, well, we got about 10 minutes into that trail and i got bored man i came up by
that trail and i said i'll see y'all later man i will i will go i will go in my camera they they
the kids all the kids they was going back the trail the trail right over and they coming in
on the back on the back end.
Like 30 minutes later, I came in hauling.
You should be in Philly because Philly got those black cowboys. Did you see that documentary?
Yeah.
No, no.
I didn't see the documentary.
Every time I go to Philly, I never know where the horses are.
When I go to Houston, when I go to Houston.
But they got the rodeo.
You should have went last week because they had the rodeo. You should have went,
you should have went last week
because they had the rodeo.
They got the rodeo going on.
Yeah,
but I want to,
I want to ride.
Every time I see people
at the rodeo,
they partying and turning up.
I don't care about turning up.
Now,
if you got horses
or you got bulls
or something,
you know,
I can,
I can partake in.
Now,
that's something
I'm excited to do.
No.
I'm going to sit there,
I'm going to sit there
and watch and see what they got what they got to
eat interesting they got fried twinkies fried twits the snickers and stuff like that uh funnel
cakes i'm looking nah nah nah if i'm going to rodeo i want i want just that i want the experience
i want to smell i'm gonna smell shit you know horse yeah Horse. Yeah. Bull. I don't.
I want to ride.
I grew up on a farm.
I don't smell enough hog, cow, chicken, turkey, goat, dog, cat.
See, I'm good.
See, that's not fair.
I grew up in the inner city.
I grew up in the inner city. So I have an appreciation for cows and pigs.
I got an appreciation, too.
That's why I know I don't want to spell no more.
Yeah, I got a great appreciation for it.
Being there all the time, boy, Joe,
let me know I didn't want to be this.
I didn't want to be that no more.
Listen, you're lucky there are places,
if, now I just got a new house.
Now, the way things are going on
Like yeah
If I just
Why
If you see me with a stable
They eat too much Ocho
And a few horses
They eat your ass
Out of the house or the home
I'ma blame you
I'ma blame you
I'ma blame Ash
I'ma blame Duh
I'ma blame your own team
Ash can tell you
Ash
Ash
F
Ash Mom got a ranch Hold on You're going to blame Ash. I'm going to blame Duh. I'm going to blame your own team. Ash can tell you. Ash, Ash, F, Ash.
Mom got a ranch.
Hold on.
One horse won't be bad now.
One horse?
What?
It's just me.
One horse eat like 10 dogs.
See, I don't know how dogs eat because I'd be on the road.
I don't know what they like.
Boy, they eat.
Them horses can eat.
Really?
Sweet.
Yes.
Give me a number.
Don't weigh 1,200 pounds.
I know.
Yeah, but give me a number.
Give me a number.
A month.
I know, Ash, you know,
what we talking about?
And the vet bills,
what do you think,
a couple of thousand?
Yeah.
Yeah. The story. what do you think a couple thousand yeah yeah what year
yeah
it all depends
like how well
you gonna keep it
because obviously
in Miami
you gotta have
you gonna have to
stable him somewhere else
oh you know
all the horses in Davie
I just bought a new house
a new house out there in Davie.
So the stable...
But you're not going to
store him at your house.
No.
He's going to be stored
at a facility.
At the stable, yeah.
Matter of fact,
it's called
B&B Ranch.
I think I said that right.
B&B Ranch,
which is where I take...
40 feet.
Yeah.
I was going to say
somewhere like
$40,000, $50,000 a year.
Oh, that ain't bad.
That ain't bad. That ain't bad.
I'm good.
I'll tell you what.
I'm going to call my guy tomorrow.
I'm going to call Bob Baffert.
He's a good friend of mine.
I'm going to ask him.
Okay.
Wait.
I'm going to say Bob.
With the gray hair?
Yeah.
And he's a real dude.
American Pharaoh justified, yes.
Tell him to let me get one of his horses.
You don't want one of them horses.
Damn
feeding it, just pay it for it.
Oh yeah, listen, I already know.
I already know.
I mean, some of those horses, you're paying
$300,000, $400,000 for a live foal.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
I love
horses, but not to that extent
no no no no like horses now i'll take a little a mini cow a little mini goat i like them
a boat that's something i never wanted right i ain't never want no boat if i'm a boat b-o-a-t
you know b-o-a-t stand for a joke right acronym short
bust out another thousand okay that's what you gotta do to keep it because you keep it on salt
water you got to constantly keep that salt water grinding down but no i'm good if i was if i was
to get see i wouldn't want a boat if anything I would have my, anything outside of my norm, it would have to be extravagant.
So if I'm going to get a boat, it's got to be a yacht.
It just can't be no any yacht.
I want a yacht like Jerry Jones.
I want a yacht like Shahid Khan.
I mean, I would never, I would never reach that type of.
Boy, you talking about $100, $200 million.
Yeah, that's what I said.
I would never reach that type of wealth.
It's just a thought of, if I'm going to do it, it would have to be like that.
I ain't going to have to pass it.
Oh, no, that's not happening.
I go rent one, you know, for a day for me and the kids.
Give me a bass boat.
No.
And I ain't trying to get in there.
I can fish from the shore.
What about it?
You said a bass boat or a fast?
Yeah, a bass.
Oh.
A bass boat.
Okay.
Yeah. They're not expensive? Yeah, a bass, a bass boat. Okay. Yeah.
They're not expensive.
Yeah, no, no.
I could be like Kevin Van Damme or Mike Iaconella, E. Smith, somebody like that.
Right, right, right.
And I don't see- Bill Dance, Roland Martin, Ernest Hensley.
I don't see-
Yeah, I don't know the yacht.
I don't see how you-
I don't like the water like that.
How you fish?
That's boring.
My grandparents got me into fishing
and that was an opportunity
for us to like,
to be with them.
And you know,
when I come up,
I don't know how y'all did it,
but y'all wasn't sitting up
with no grandparents.
So that was really
your time to bond.
I hate,
you know,
at the time,
I used to hate it.
Right.
Hey,
my grandfather on one side,
me and Spanky,
my brother,
God bless his face,
Lord.
Me and my brother on one side, that joke will holler across my brother, me and my brother on one side,
that joker hollered across the lake, hey,
bring me some more baits.
What did he do?
Hey,
hey,
one of y'all bring me y'all
rod. He done got his rod caught on
a stump or something and broke the line. Now
we got to take him out, Rod. Now we sitting
up there like this here because we ain't got nothing to feed you with.
Yeah, I can't do it
or my grandma hey boy bring me the tackle box
oh lord
have mercy jeez
I can't do it
I can't do it
I can sit on my PC or PS5
or Xbox and I can play Warzone
Call of Duty, FIFA, EAFC
I can sit there and do that for 8-9 hours
every day but if you tell me to go fishing on Call of Duty, FIFA, EAFC. I actually didn't do that for eight, nine hours on. No. Every
day. But if you tell me to go
fishing for an hour and I got to sit
there and wait for the fish,
I got to sit there and wait on the fish
and wait for the bite. Man, no.
30 minutes, I'm clocking out.
I'm clocking out. Man, we be going
fishing all day. We go
in the morning. Oh, what?
All day. We go early in the morning.
And please.
Oh yeah. And please.
Especially we go saltwater fishing. We go down to like
Sappalo Island.
That's where they brought the Geechies.
That's where they offloaded a lot of them and they still speak that
Gullah.
So we go to Sappalo Island
and we be going all day.
Even if we go to those lakes. We go to like Needle Island Lake or something like that. Man, go we go we be gone all day even if we go to those lakes we go
to like need a lot of lake or something like that yeah man don't show we be gone all day i can't do
it hey my grandma loved the fish and as she got old as she got older man my sister used to take
her to the thing and be out there by herself okay let me come back and get me around five o'clock. My sister take my grandma out there. It'd be hot.
Yeah.
Her and my aunt, her and my aunt, Aunt Emma, they go down to salt water.
She taught my grandma how to throw a reel because for the longest time, my grandma fished with a cane pole.
Aunt Emma taught my grandma how to throw a rod, huh?
With a cane pole?
With a straight line on the front of it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was a cane pole. Okay, okay. the front of it yeah yeah yeah that was a cane pole
yeah somebody tell me
yeah we called
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what y'all know about Sappalo
what's Sappalo
it's from
near Savannah,
but that's where the Geechee's.
Right. Sappalo
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Spark it or skip it.
I like that.
I like that.
Okay.
So how this work, Ocho, we talk about an item in the bedroom or a place to do it. And you and I both decide if it's a yes, spark it.
If it's a no, skip it.
Okay, okay.
The shower.
Skip it.
Skip it.
Skip it.
You don't never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
Ever.
I don't know what you've experienced
in your lifetime.
I'm not sure who you dated,
but you never get in the shower with a woman.
For one, the water's scalding hot. The water is but you turn it on you turn it on warm oh joe
that ain't no no no i tried it i tried i tried it multiple times when i was in high school
and i don't know what in the world they were thinking and how they women take a shower
with the water boiling hot not normal hot hot. I would never do it again.
The second thing
that goes wrong with that
is you're always at the back
of the shower
and you're cold
because...
That's why I need to be.
All the action,
that's why I need to be.
It's the one time
I want to be at the back.
I want to be at the back.
You know what I'm saying, Ocho?
Hey, y'all go to the back.
That's where I want to be.
Thank you.
Appreciate you.
Ocho,
it's something about wet
skin no i don't know if you do it's something to bring music to your ears no it sounds like
luther van droost singing no no no don't you remember you told you know what i'm saying
that wouldn't sound like i guarantee you if you ask a hundred men yeah i know by that sound it's
how i love the sound you ask a hundred men if they enjoy and like shower sex,
I guarantee you half of them say no.
No.
To me, it's a horrible experience.
Shower, anything in water, it just...
Ocho, I don't like your Ocho.
I'll let her get it first, Ocho.
I'll let her get it first.
I got the big tub and shower that comes like a waterfall.
Okay. Hold waterfall. Okay.
Okay, that's different.
Now y'all both get underneath that.
I'm taking a shower in here.
And when you see that water beading up on her body, you know what I'm saying?
The water bead.
Like, you know, you got a car, Ocho.
Right.
The water beading up on the car.
Yes, sir.
And you see that water bead up on her body, her body glistening.
Yes, sir.
I just, I can't do it, bro.
I'm just being honest with you.
I think you must
You know how them church mothers, Ocho? You know how them church
mothers do that thing in the church with that
spirit in them? Right.
I can't do it, bro.
I'm just being honest.
Shower sex
horizontally or vertically.
Hey,
hey,
Elcho,
the chat,
the chat say,
yeah,
61% right now.
Yeah,
y'all,
hey,
yeah,
man.
I got a big,
big,
big one.
Big one,
Elcho.
Hey,
that's 61%.
I guarantee that you're under 21.
That's exciting when you're young.
That's exciting.
It is.
You ain't trying to be in the back of the shower,
man,
sit back there freezing. She, then the water's too hot. You don't want to go under the water because you're going. That's exciting. It is. You ain't trying to be in the back of the shower, man, sit back there freezing.
She,
then the water's too hot.
You don't want to go
under the water
because you're going
to burn yourself.
I ain't got no one.
I don't want no one.
Oh, yeah,
they do have it.
Now, look,
I'm in there for that reason.
Now, we ain't putting,
you know,
every once in a while,
you know,
I wash your back,
you know,
I soap it up,
you know what I'm saying,
don't you?
I get in there
with that intention.
That's my intention.
Yes.
Right. Sometimes, plan don't go according to plan. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I get in there with that intention. That's my intention. Right.
Sometimes,
plan don't go according to plan.
You know what I'm saying, Ocho?
You know what I'm talking about.
That's a good one.
And you know what I'm saying, Ocho?
You know,
you pick a leg up,
let me get your foot.
Yeah.
And the next thing you know, Ocho,
I'm like this here.
Wah, wah, wah, wah.
I'm just saying,
it happens.
I know what happened, it happens. I don't know what happened, it happened.
All right, Joe.
The next one.
Candle wax.
You know how you hit the candle and you
drip that candle on the back?
I like that. I like that.
Listen,
I use the candle wax. I used to use
this as a part of foreplay. You know, when you meet somebody for the first time, not only did I use the candle wax. I used to use this as a part of foreplay.
You know, when you meet somebody for the first time,
not only did I use a candle wax, I used to use ice well.
You hear me?
You just told me.
You told me.
I was ancient when I told you about the ice dripping.
Yeah.
Yeah, you talk about tracing the ice.
Oh, that's back in the 80s.
Ain't nobody doing that no more.
I'm talking about using the candle wax while in
the act of already...
I mean, the act already.
No, no, no. You got to put that on. You got to put that on.
Dim the lights. You got to cut
the lights down. No.
Dim the lights? Yeah, dim
the lights. Dim the lights. Ocho,
I just want to see a little bit. I don't want to see the whole.
I just want to see a little.
I got it. I got it. Listen, I got it.
Less is more.
Less is more.
Less is more.
You got to learn to use the ice trick, man.
Crush ice.
Toes to your mouth, right?
You hear me?
No.
Listen to me now.
Listen to me.
Stay with me.
You're already in the act of engaging.
Then you use the candle wax, right?
Depending on her flesh for pain,
on how much pain she can tolerate,
you take the wax and allow it to drip on the nipples.
You feel me?
There's a phenomenal sensation.
For those that haven't tried in the chat,
you should try that.
Listen, I used to come,
when I was in high school and college,
I came with a package.
And women used to come and be able to pick school and college I came with a package and women used to come
and be able to pick out
what package
they wanted me to
to do
no I'm serious
you laugh
I'm serious
I had to make money
some kind of way
but for me
but see Ocho
I got a
them big old
you know
I don't know if you've seen them
y'all ever seen
them big old ice
them big old ice cubes
it be round ball.
I got a square one, I got a square one in Atlanta,
got my number and everything in it.
You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Get that thing,
and you know, have it like a cue ball.
Yeah, okay. You know, I just roll it, you know, I just
roll it.
Yeah, hey. You know what I'm saying? With ice.
Right. But I'm a candle, spark it, I'm
sparking it, spark it. Yeah, you gotta try that.
Yeah, listen. Alright, O it. I'm sparking it. Yeah, you got to try that. Yeah. Listen.
All right, Ocho.
Handcuffs.
Skip.
Yeah, I'm going to skip it.
I'm going to skip it because that's triggering.
That's traumatizing.
I don't even like, you don't even like pretending.
I can't give her that kind of control.
Yeah.
No, no.
Especially if you give it up to the wrong person.
You know, what if she puts you in handcuffs And she knows the pass goes to your phone
I come up out in the face
I come up out in the handcuffs
Nah
I can't
I can't.
I can't give her that kind of control, man.
What you said?
If you in handcuffs and she pick up your phone
and go through it.
Yeah.
You could have.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Do you think y'all think I'm Houdini?
Uh-uh.
No.
Chat.
Hey,
I know people,
hey, look,
some people,
some people like to be bound.
Some people like to be restrained
and all that stuff.
Yeah.
I ain't into that.
I mean,
yeah, people about, hey, you know, you know, I don't want to do none of that.
Hey.
Nope.
Listen, I used to be, oh, man, I had a wild life when I was younger, man.
Bondage.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
I'm good.
Hanging up.
Dominating.
Just.
Yeah. That's the old me, man.
I've listened.
I just got baptized now, so.
I guess the handcuffs are for her.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It could be, or vice versa, depending on if you have a woman that's aggressive and likes to take over.
But she needs to be flexible because she needs to be able to put her hands behind her back
and still be able to, you know what I'm saying?
Oh.
You know what I'm saying, don't you?
I'm with you when you're right.
I'm with you when you're right.
I'm with you when you're saying.
All right.
Last but not least, in the car.
Spark it.
Yes.
Spark it.
Spark it.
Spark it.
Listen, we've all done that.
We've all done that at a young age.
Done.
Middle age.
And still, wait, are you still doing it?
Doing it and doing it and doing it well.
Oh.
Wait, you can still do it in the car with your bad hips?
Can I?
Well, I grew up in a car.
Hey, in the car.
Hey. Hey.
Hey.
A Chevette, Chevy Chevette.
Right.
A Fiero.
Yeah.
I've been in all that.
Yes.
You know, I always thought it was much more exciting.
And the thought of getting caught, the thought of doing something you know you're not supposed to do.
Love it.
Yes, sir.
Huh?
In the driveway. In the driveway. Hey, not supposed to love yes sir in the driveway in the driveway i'll put a bit of high i'm gonna go in there freshen up you ain't afraid to sit right here you french already yeah you from french for what right right right
come on with it now yeah i like that those some days now i'm a little more cautious on because
there's really not too many places you can go where you can be comfortable and be able to get
away with it you You know, always have
to look over your shoulder, and you know, if you get
caught, you're going to hit that noose. I don't want no part of that.
I don't want no part of that either,
Ocho.
But,
you know, mall parking
lot seems to work.
Gym parking lot seems to
work.
Ocho froze.
But see, that's why you got that 5%.
When you got that 5%,
you gotta worry about it.
It, uh...
Man, nobody care about no no sneak I'm in there
my Ocho
my car Ocho
Ocho the froze
darling
yeah you know like
all she wanted was a quickie
but I think that
yeah the car
shower
spark
candle
spark handcuffs
scalp
in the car spark spark
I'm just saying
what y'all think chat
yeah
but ain't nothing like that
nah I can't do it
no
I mean
I can't do it
in no establishment
oh no no oh Joe Nah, I can't do it in the establishment. Oh, no.
No.
Oh, Joe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, yeah, I can't, you know, the car, 82% say the car is a spark.
We got you.
We see you.
Okay, okay, okay.
82% say the car is a spark. We got you. We see you. Okay, okay, okay. 82% say the car is a spark.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Especially, you know, you in a rush.
You got somewhere to go.
You're not supposed to be there.
Somebody you just met.
Somebody you got no business being with.
Man, there's so many different variables that go into that.
It makes it tough.
I've been your 10 years
and get it in huh i don't need no excitement i'm excited i'm about to do it oh okay
somebody you somebody just knew you know what i mean you know what i mean i'm just throwing out
all the variables that's all i have listen i haven't done that in a while i haven't done
in a very very long time. But I just know that feeling.
Hey, it ain't nothing like it.
The movie theater, I thought,
because you know they got the movie theater
where the chairs lay all the way back on you.
Yeah, we call that I pick.
Yeah, I pick.
I thought about renting it out.
Renting one out, just me and her.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, it's so funny you said that. Oh, I almost. Yeah. Hey, it's so funny you said that.
Oh,
almost woke the baby up.
It's so funny you said that.
I'm going,
no,
she right here
laying in front of me.
When the last time
you been to a drive-in theater?
I ain't been to a drive-in theater
in
1996.
A drive-in?
Yeah.
Ain't nothing like it.
Yeah.
Boy, listen.
I ain't watching no movies.
I'm just saying that.
Listen, I'm thinking about it.
I thought about it while I was here.
I was talking with a very, very good friend of mine.
We were talking about drive-in theaters.
And the last time you've been to a drive- driving theater and thought about how that experience would be in 2025
so I looked up
you know
y'all got some in Miami?
they say there's one
in Fort Lauderdale
say there's one in Fort Lauderdale
I think that would be
a great experience
especially if they have
old movies they're showing
you know like Grease
you know
stuff like that
I ain't gonna watch no
I don't give a damn
what they're showing
they could
hey they could have a Nat Geo could be talking about the Great Migration.
That ain't got nothing to do with what I got going on.
You're not going to watch the show?
No, I am not.
It's all about the experience if you happen to go to a drive-in theater.
I think the people, I wonder what the age group is for the people in the chat.
I don't care what the age group is.
Anybody in the chat, y'all been to the drive-in theater?
Do you have drive-in theaters in your city where you're from?
I'm just curious.
Yep.
There's one in Atlanta on Moreland.
It's right across from the federal prison.
If anybody live in Atlanta on Moreland Avenue, there's one right down.
I'm talking about right across from the federal prison on Morland Avenue.
I don't know what it's called,
but that was the one I went to.
And a matter of fact,
she had a truck.
She had a truck and let the gate down.
You know what I'm saying?
Don't show.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
They got nothing to do with me,
but see here at the thing.
Oh,
it was,
it was dark and they couldn't see in there.
I can see that they,
they,
they mind their business.
I mind,
I was handling mine.
Right.
That's what you do. Y'all don't be no, Oh, Oh, see they mind their business. I was handling mine. That's what you do.
Y'all don't be no, ooh, ooh,
ooh, mind your business.
Hold on, you was on the flatbed outside?
No, she had
a forerunner.
Okay. So the seats laid out,
the gate laid out, and the
other part comes up. Okay, okay, I got you.
I got you.
Wow.
Once upon a time, Mo got you, I got you. Boy, you look wild, huh?
Once upon a time, Mojo.
Once upon a time.
Now, you know,
Mojo, they be trying your boy.
See, they look at me,
you know,
you ain't gonna do,
huh?
I won't do what?
Not in super days, boy. But, you know, back in the day
we wild out there we wilded out
and it wasn't no thing you know
now I mean you know hey
front of your homeboys one on the car one in the
backseat one in the front seat one on the trunk
yeah
oh shit
there was the days
like Steve
would say I wish those days would come back once more.
Starlight.
That's what it's called, Starlight?
But you know what I'm talking about?
It's on Moreland.
It's right across from the federal prison.
Mm-hmm.
Once upon a time, Ocho.
I had a good day. Once upon a time, Ocho Former Heisman Trophy winning coach Eddie George was named the next
head coach of Bowling Green
George has agreed to a five-year deal
His hiring came two days after
George, who spent
the past four seasons as head
coach of Tennessee State, was one of
the three finalists to interview for the position
Congratulations, Eddie Congratulations, El Cochi Tennessee State was one of the three finalists to interview for the position.
Congratulations,
Eddie. Congratulations,
Coachy. That's dope. That's live.
That's live.
Now, take my old boy Burns. You know, Burns is the special teams coach with Eddie at Tennessee State.
So I was talking to him today
and he just texted me a little while ago. He was driving
back from D.C.
Seeing the fam.
And so I hope Burns go with him.
Yeah, that's dope.
That's dope.
A high school track runner got attacked with a baton in the middle of the relay
at the Virginia State High School League Class 3 Indoor State Championship.
Kaylin Tucker was on the second leg of the 4x2 relay at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia,
when she got smacked in the head.
Tucker suffered a concussion and a potential skull fracture.
The girl's mother said neither the runner nor the coach apologized for the incident.
I wonder what happened.
Do you think she impeded her at some point in the race?
Maybe bumped into her?
Man, that girl went around her.
That girl went around like she was standing still.
Ocho, you running with a baton like this,
do you know what you got to do to do this when you're running?
That's a lot of energy, too.
I mean, think about this here.
That's a lot of energy.
That's not a natural stride pattern.
Yeah, you're right.
He did it intentionally.
Look, we've all at some point been sore losers Yeah, you're right. He did it intentionally. Look, we've all
at some point
been sore losers.
I hated to lose.
I would throw the ball
in the hog pen.
I would kick the ball
in the woods.
And my grandmas would be
looking at the kitchen.
And I'd come in the house.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, you can't. I mean's that's bad that's bad i mean at least apologize that should have been the first thing the coach did right go to the coach go to the young lady if
if it's possible and say i am so sorry i am so. We do not teach our kids to do that.
Her emotions got the best of her.
We are definitely going to have a conversation,
a very strong,
healthy conversation.
I'm going to bring her parents in and we're also going to have a conversation
to let them know that this type of behavior will not be tolerated.
I understand.
He did the moment things happen,
but you got to have
that conversation.
I don't know.
She's probably, what,
15, 16 years of age.
So you have a healthy
conversation, Ocho.
That's why I think
it was probably deeper
than that too, huh?
There's here the relay, Ocho.
Look at this.
She behind her.
You see the girl going wide.
The girl going wide,
don't you?
She ain't cut off.
Yeah,
that might be
deeper than that,
huh?
I'm just being honest.
That might be
deeper than that.
Because especially
after an incident
like that,
at a track meet,
at a state championship,
coaches,
you apologize.
You apologize,
especially for an incident
like that.
And the fact that no one came and said anything at all, something ain't right.
So this probably goes back before this tracking even happened.
They got to rectify that situation, though.
You can't have that in track and field.
You can't.
No, hell no.
At any level.
Any level.
You're absolutely right.
And like I said, I think the best thing should have been done was offering an apology
at the time.
The young lady says, I'm sorry.
She offers an apology
at the time.
But, yeah, that's...
I've never seen no situation like that
in track, Ocho. I'm just saying that
I've ran track and watched a lot of track
meetings. I've never seen this.
Now, you know, Ocho,
they jockeying for a position.
But to actually hit somebody in the head with the baton?
No, I ain't never seen that.
No.
Yeah, but when you run...
I'll tell you what,
let me get something in the head.
Ocho is talking about the baton in the head. I said, I was looking for something you sit there in the heaven, let me get something in here. Let me get, Jordan talking about
the baton in the heaven.
I said,
I was looking for something
to hit him in his head.
But I need you running though.
Yeah.
Give me that water bottle,
Ash.
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In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
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It's time for Q&A.
Hey, Cupcake Mama.
Help traditional women who believe that men should approach them instead of the other way around.
Are we doomed in this new age, in this new dating era?
My divorce will be final on May 2nd.
I'm just trying to get prepared.
Wait.
Yeah.
Give that question to me one more time.
She said traditional women who believe that a man should approach them instead of the other way around.
What does it say?
75% of the men today has never asked a woman out face to face.
Mainly is through Twitter, IG, or a homeboy, homegirl hookup.
Yeah.
Trade information.
Hey, what are you doing?
Blah, blah, blah.
Boom.
I mean,
so,
go ahead. I mean,
what does it even matter
how things are initiated?
You like the person or you don't?
If you don't,
you know,
I mean,
we overcomplicate stuff,
worried about who approaches who first,
who checks who first. I mean, that just ain't, I mean, we shouldcomplicate stuff, worried about who approaches who first, who next, who first.
I mean, that's just, I mean, we should be past that by now, man.
Yeah, right now, if she peeking, I'm speaking.
You know what I'm saying, Ojo?
Period.
But like she said, traditional women, Cupcake, we met her.
She was in, as a matter of fact, she was in New Orleans.
She came to the show in New Orleans and introduced herself.
So thank you for that.
Women, she's a traditional woman.
Traditional women are used to what?
The old man at A, what you do.
Right.
So if you've never had to ask, it feels a little uncomfortable for you.
Right. For me, it's the other way around.
I get uncomfortable if a woman were to have asked me out.
Well, wait a minute,
you have some women that are aggressive and assertive
that actually go for what they want.
I know, but I'm old school
to Ojo. I grew up asking.
Hey, you know,
what are you doing? Can I take you out to
eat? Blah, blah, blah.
It's, uh...
Listen, I like it either way
I mean
listen
whatever floats your boat
you know guys
some
you know some women
honestly
some women don't have
a problem with guys
approaching them
no
you know
you don't understand
you're not understanding
where I'm going with this
some women don't have
a problem with guys
approaching them
where it's a high volume
of men that are always doing it.
Yes.
Yeah.
I mean, you just
got to be careful now, Ocho, because
everything can be
misconstrued. You ask somebody to help
and you made them feel uncomfortable. So
guys are going to be a lot more
apprehensive
than probably they were in the past.
But on May 2nd, cupcake,
you have to let your hair down.
You have to go for what you know.
If you like something.
Listen, this ain't the 80s.
If you see something you want,
speak up.
King Govan.
Govan.
Dang, do you at least rub feet?
Yeah, my own.
Put lotion on them.
We got to get you together.
I continue to tell you over and over.
I mean, your ways of dating and the way you operate is outdated.
Come on, man. Come on, man.
Ain't it pretty?
Y'all ain't a jackass, don't lie.
Don't lie, champ. Look at that.
Ain't no corn, ain't no bunions.
Hey, you think?
I ain't got no basketball feet.
No corn, no bunions.
No.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm just trying to see
yeah y'all see that
ain't no dark
nah nah nah
uh uh
yeah so I run
my own
I keep the thing
oiled up too
look at that
that got a cut
I jumped on the nail
that's a cut on the bottom
I jumped in the back of a pickup I jumped in the back of a pickup
I jumped in the back of a truck Ocho
and I didn't see
you see that right there
you didn't see the nail
I didn't
went right through
went right through my shoe
I can't
I can't
listen
I still got sand
all in my feet
yeah yeah I still got sand all in my feet. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Most athletes do have flat feet, especially black men.
We can Google it.
Y'all don't do that.
Don't do that, chat.
Y'all know, hey, my feet ain't ugly.
I get pedicures once a week,
pennies and mayonnaise.
So y'all ain't fit to fake on me.
Dr. Frank L. Bellamy, hey, fam.
You both always on the move. how do you keep from getting exhausted
and make sure you get enough rest or have you trained your body to function on little sleep
uh what's the secret to avoid burning out oh listen my body is trained my body is trained
i get four hours i'm good i get four hours of sleep i'm good matter of fact night captain night
uh i went on the boat
With all the kids in the DR
Obviously was out
During that sun all day
They did
They swimming
We came back
I set my alarm for 1045
Exactly
When we got back
I got exactly
Four hours of sleep
We doing Q&A
And I'm still locked in
And I'm ready to keep going
No we ain't finna keep going. Don't wait for it to keep going.
Because working, that's my, that's, I found something that I'm passionate about.
You don't really get tired when you're passionate about something.
Man, give me a teddy bear.
What are you doing up this late?
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See what y'all do when I do good people.
Say, my name is Teddy Bear.
AKA Teddy.
I'm about to be three in August.
Man, where Titus at, man?
Man, Titus better have his ass in the bed.
Man, he ain't made no appearance.
Nah.
He ain't made no appearance tonight.
But you know what?
I don't get a whole lot of sleep. Even when I'm asleep, I'm not a peaceful sleeper.
You know what I'm saying, don't you?
Right.
Because when you have dogs, the least little thing, the least little...
I'm up.
Nah, you got to get out of here before you throw up in the house.
I ain't got time
to clean that up tonight.
Right.
Or one bark
or any little thing.
You wake up?
Yeah,
yeah.
Wasn't any better than me,
boy.
I ain't going to hear
nothing at all.
Yeah.
Oh,
I hear everything.
Deputy Mario,
what's the part of South Carolina y'all was just talking about?
I'd like to look it up.
No, actually, Sappalo is near Brunswick.
It's right outside McIntosh County.
No, that's not.
But a lot of the people left there, Sappalo, Daufuskie, all those islands,
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Well, who's to say you're going to get 10 years out of that position
just because he's younger?
You make a move within the intent to be competitive right now.
Right.
Now, you got to look what you got in that division.
You got Joe Burrow and you got Lamar Jackson.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In order for you to really, you got to try, you got to unar Jackson. Yeah. Yeah. In order for you to really,
you got to try,
you got to unseat them.
Yeah.
Listen, if you don't unseat them,
you have to get someone,
well, I'm not going to say comparable
because you're not going to find anything
comparable right now
to Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson,
but you got to have at least somebody
that can compete.
And until you get a quarterback in that room,
you will always be behind the eight ball.
Yeah.
Tony Brown Jr. said,
Ocho's Wi-Fi background looks like he's screaming at a Thai restaurant.
Hey, listen.
I try to get the best Wi-Fi I can find out here in DR. I'm standing at a very nice villa. These villas out here, man, everybody, you know, a few, few people I hadn't seen and came in contact with told me to tell you hello. They watched the show. They love you out here in the DR. And they told me if you ever come, um, they told me to pass the information on anything you need. They got you. They going to take care of you.
Okay.
You can't hear me, huh?
I got you. Are they going to take care of me?
Oh, yeah. They're going to take care of you.
Teddy R said,
at this rate, will KD's longevity,
18 years and not slowing down,
ever become so overwhelming
that he can submit himself
as the second
greatest small forward despite not having
as many accolades as Berg?
The same argument people have about Bron and MJ.
You do realize Bron is a small
forward too, though.
That's the
position Bron plays.
Small forward. that's the position Brian plays small forward it's going to be tough
it's going to be really tough
Lanny Ray
hey guys
I'm going to Italy next month
with some family
I've never been to Europe
got any European
or international travel
tips for me?
Have fun, especially in Italy.
I'm always in Naples to go watch
my favorite soccer team
play in Naples,
Italy.
The food. You're going to love the food.
You're going to love the people. It's very nice.
I'm trying to think
what else.
The architecture is unbelievable.
Yeah.
I went to Rome and Florence
many years ago.
Yeah.
I would like to go to,
I'd like to go to your
Morphy Coast.
I would like to do
Naples.
Naples is beautiful.
I would like to do,
I think the Morphy Coast.
Milan. Milan is more for like fashion week. I think when it comes to like touristy, I think the Murphy Coast Milan Milan is more for like fashion week
I think when it comes to like touristy
I think Florence, Venice
The Murphy Coast
Something like that, I think I need to fit that in Ocho
Yeah, you got to
Matter of fact, again, I'm doubling up
I'm going to see Andrea Pacelli
In Italy in July
I won't be able to Be that long, so I'm getting in and getting out.
Even though I just saw him down here in Miami,
I want to see him again in his own setting near his home
and experience that.
So I'm doing that in July before we get back rolling
and rocking with football season.
Guys, I know y'all wondering why Teddy looking like that.
Jordan's taking his picture.
So he posing for Jordan.
J213, hey, Uncle Nocho, my question for you all.
What is your Mount Rushmore for Super Bowls?
I feel like 52 got to be up there.
That helmet catch.
Oh, that's 42.
Catch was crazy. Be blessed. But listen, that's 42. The catch was crazy.
Be blessed.
But listen, that's for you to answer.
I can't even remember none of the Super Bowls,
and I don't even know the numbers.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that was crazy.
The catch, I mean, stopping an undefeated season.
The Patriots beating the Seahawks in the fashion
in which they did
the Steelers and the Cowboys always had great
matchups
damn
when you go back and look at it the Patriots versus Atlanta
ooh
28-3 Ocho
that gotta be the best one huh
yeah uh
two years ago
basically
a walk off. The Chiefs
came back on
Philly.
Man, it's hard because
a lot of the early Super Bowls I don't really remember
and it's easy to get caught up
Ocho and the Super Bowls that just happened
recently. So now we have recency bias right mm-hmm carlos green working out by shea cognac and get it shipped
to my house carlos where do you live um we just got distribution i'm coming to chicago i'm coming
to illinois i'm coming to uh harford connecticut uh i'm going to maryland i'm i'm coming to Illinois. I'm coming to Hartford, Connecticut.
I'm going to Maryland.
I'm going to Charleston, South Carolina.
I'm going to be in Atlanta. I'm going to be
in Savannah.
We just
got distribution in Florida.
We're in Texas. We're in Nevada.
We're in New Mexico. We're in Arizona.
We're going to be in New York, we're going to be in Wisconsin.
So we got to be close to you in some of those states I just named.
Right.
But if you can't buy it, we will ship it to you unless there's something that, you know, we can't, you know, state, Maybe you're in a state that we don't or we can't ship to.
But for the most part, I think with some of the cities that states that we just named,
I think we should find one that's close to you.
Kel say, what's up, Uncle Nocho?
I was playing one of my favorite games, NFL Street 2.
I was playing at Sterling and Chad and thought about you guys.
Do you guys have a favorite game you were featured in?
Hell, I think I was featured at NFL Street.
I think that's the only—I guess I may have been part of Madden.
Yeah.
Now.
But I like the NFL Street.
They got me on there with my hat turned back.
They got me all cocked diesel.
So I kind of like that.
I kind of like that.
NFL Street, the one I was on the cover of, I'm not sure if it was—
We're coming to Virginia.
We going to be in Virginia.
We going to be in Tennessee.
We're about to be in like 25 states.
Hopefully by the end of the year it's 35.
So we definitely coming.
We're available in Maryland now.
I'll be in Maryland Friday now I'll be in Maryland Friday
I'll be in Maryland Friday
on the 14th
the Bales 5000
that was Cowboys had two brothers
and played Jalen Smith
a linebacker yeah I remember Jalen
and Rod Smith the running back okay
Jordan T Higgins to the Ravens.
Forget the Bengals.
Sorry, Ocho.
Nah.
Casey Taylor, what's up, Gold?
So y'all know how Wimby Yamacard sold for 800K?
And Ocho, what do you think the highest sports card sale ever is?
Also, when is the spring live event being announced?
PSPM quarterback 15 had a card for sale for $4.3 million.
If I'm not mistaken, it's either a Mickey Mantle card or a Honus Wagner card.
I think it's the TS Honus Wagner card.
I think that's the most
expensive card
yeah
Mickey Mantle card went for 12.6
what
uh huh
Honus Wagner went for
7.6
Jesus cards are expensive Honus Wagner went for 7.6 Jesus
Brady LeBron
Really?
Has anybody come forward with that 1-1 LeBron?
Wow wow
Kevin Brooks
I was going through my football cards
and I ran across Jesse Tuggle linebacker from the Falcons
and Craig Ironhead Hayward running back
from the Saints
do you have any memories of playing these guys
I played Tuggle
Tuggle was a senior when I was a freshman
at Savannah
State. He went to Valdosta State. I went to
Savannah State. We played in my freshman year.
I did play. I do remember
I played
against Tuggle in 97
and we played him again, obviously, in the Super Bowl,
Ocho. So I'm very
familiar with Tuggle, having played against him in college.
Now, I don't think I college. Ironhead, um,
no, I don't think I played against Ironhead at the Pro Bowl one year.
Um, rest his soul.
Um,
but no, I don't have a whole lot of memories of playing
against, just seeing him at the Pro Bowl, you know,
laughing and joking, having fun.
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