Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 2: National Champion Mikail Kamara Joins + Sneak Peak of RO Content + Inside the NBA NOT HAPPY with lack of TV time + Steve Kerr last year?!

Episode Date: January 22, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson are joined by Indiana National Champion Mikhail Kamara, Bills owner explains why he fired Sean McDermott, Unc, Ocho and Iso tease a new video coming out of the three of them doing some Lawn Club activities, and Charles Barkley says inside the NBA crew not happy with lack of appearances and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Mikail Kamara joins10:55 - Bills Owner on firing Sean McDermott 25:13 - Sneak peek of Ro sponsored content30:59 - Charles Barkley says Inside the NBA crew not happy with lack of appearances47:19 - Steve Kerr could be on his last year with the Warriors51:54 - Q & Aaayyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Okay, we got a very special guest joining us. Joining us from the national champion Indiana Hoosier. He had one of the biggest plays of the game, and it was the difference in the game. Mikhail Kamara. Mikhail, how are you doing, bro? I'm doing good. What's up, bro?

Good. And help me walk us through the punt block, because you got a guy that's over that's going to block you and you got the upback that he kind of just like turned your loop. Were you surprised that? Like, damn, you ain't going to put up no effort? So the punt before that, we was in defense of safe, right? So I kind of like oozed off the ball.

Yeah. And I kind of seen, I was like, I'm a little bit closer to the punter than I thought I would be. So I was like, all right, this next time I'm getting another opportunity, I'm going to really shoot my shot. So this one, I really just got out the ball and I shot my shot and then I blocked it. And I was just like, damn, like this is crazy. You know what? I got a question too. Obviously, I've never seen it before.

Maybe it's something that they do new in college in college. but why is it that I see punters now instead of walking straight rugby style why is he why is he veering off to the right making it easy for you to block the punt is that is that something new that they do in college or is that that's going to be around especially with with our special team coordinator we used to get a lot of guys from uh the australia a lot of like rugby style kickers that's like a big thing in college Hey, bro, the block punt wasn't only, you know, probably the pivotal moment of the game, but it earned you MVP, defensive MVP.

Well, I mean, what that felt like, bro? I mean, what's that like? It was crazy, especially because, you know, the season has been a lot of, like, ups and downs, especially for my season last year. So just kind of like to put a cherry on top and to end my college career as a national champion, And then as the defense of MVP, it's something only God could have written for me, man. Oh, that got to be the best feeling in the world, man. You got to think, bro, I've been playing football since I was four years old.

I've been playing football since I was four years old. And I've never, ever been in a situation where I've been an MVP or I've won anything like a national championship or a Super Bowl. When you realize, when that clock is zero, you realize y'all won that game, what does that feel like walk me through it so I can so I can feel it too because the only thing I ever wanted is it's fucking madness it I got you oh too uh it's like it's like right it's it's surreal bro like it doesn't even right now it doesn't feel real like I'm seeing like my instagram's blown up my Twitter's blown up and I'm just I'm just looking at all the videos all the

clips and it's just like it's like I'm in like third person bro like it doesn't even feel like like I'm looking at myself like it's somebody else but it's like it's me I've made the plays I head up that trophy and it's like it's a feeling that you just, I'm not going to lie, but you might have to put the cleats back on and try to get you on. Hey, you know, I got some eligibility. Oh, I know you do.

I know you do. You come back, hopefully come back and be a Hoosier, bro. McHale, I like it. The last play. Now, it looked like you guys were in cover two. The coverage and the back end. Now, I'm surprised that Miami, because I think it was a terrible design, because normally, if you, Ocho, when you're trying to throw something in the cover, too,

you've got to have somebody in the flat to control that corner because if there's nobody in the flat, he's going to keep sinking, plus the safety's zooming over the top. So I don't know, even if he had led him, I'm not so sure to have been incomplete, but have been completed past. When you called, they called this defense, tell me what you were thinking, like, I need to get home, and then all of a sudden you see the ball release, what goes through? your mind well first i mean i'll kind of walk you back through just the whole like the last series for real so just like knowing the way uh so we kick the field goal and i'm like okay like

it's time we'll get money like this is like the best the best feeling how the difference of player like the game is on on your hand like yep this is it right so it's like time we'll get money uh and coach pretty much put in you know our past rushing uh uh substitution uh so i got to get home i got to get home. So I was rushing, doing my thing, and I was getting tired. I'm not going to lie. But I hope that's true, be tired. I ain't go wrong. But that last play, so I'm kind of bending the edge, and I kind of get pushed, and I see the ball. And I'm like, damn, like, oh, like, no, like, you can't end like this. And I hear the crowd pop, and I look up, and I see sharp with the ball. He took his knee, and he's running

around, and I'm like, bro, we really, we better win this. We better win this. This is, I'm like, oh. That's an unbelievable. Yeah, you guys were getting tired. I was surprised that they didn't sub because they just kept letting you guys rush. I said, okay, I know y'all got some other pass rushes. These guys are tired. After like two or three pass rushes, you spent.

No, don't get. I mean, we got, I mean, unfortunately, my two brothers, they both got hurt, Kellynne Wiley and Stephen Daly. Those are my guys. So it was really, it was kind of me out there. I'm not going on. I mean, I used my entire game. So I was, I was feeling it, though.

But it was like, it's the final game for a storybook ending. Wow. So as it does settles, it probably hasn't really hit you yet. It's only been a few days since you won the national champion. What's the next process? What's the next steps for you as you prepare for the next journey after college football? So right now it's right now, right now. packing trying to pack up my apartment and get ready to go go down to Florida to train

oh you're coming down here Orlando Barbaritos Marinos oh you're gonna be a barbarito? You said what you'll be training for the draft hell yeah hell yeah so Cowboys go the cowboy get you bro uh I mean I hope anything gets me you know there's no there's nobody I'm just throwing it out there They're throwing out there. We need a nice little deep. Oh, let's speak. Hey, you,

you haven't been in Cincinnati? I haven't been to Cincinnati. No. No. Man, listen, we can go ahead and get your acquainted, man. Hey, hey. Me Mr. Brown. No, yeah, they ain't what you want.

So, so what do you know at the combine? What are you hoping to run? What are you hoping? What can we expect? Can we expect something, something four or six? Can we expect a 10 and a half foot long jump? Can we expect, you know,

something special in the shuttle? What, what can we expect from you? I'm expecting big, big numbers for sure. Going down with Pete, Pete's, you know, pretty proven with everyone that he's he's trained. Oh, yeah. So the biggest thing is having to get me healthy, you know, it's been a long, long season. I'm playing against some good competition.

So body's definitely a little bit banged up. But I'm going to go down there and put on the show for sure. What made you decide to go to Indiana? What was it because prior to the last two years, there were the losing this college team in America. and somehow this is this is better than Rudy the ending that you guys had this year what made you decide to go there and what made you think that you guys could actually win it all

or when did you think you could win it all? So pretty much so CoSig pretty much he got the job at Indiana this is when I was at JMU so honestly before the end of that season I was already thinking about hitting the portal and that kind of just made my decision like solidified so I hit the portal and I said

still didn't really have really any offers. I had Indiana. I had Pitt and then I had Cincinnati. And it really just came down to playing in the Big Ten, like Big Ten or ACC. I was time. I'm playing the Big Ten. But knowing the whole history of Indiana, I was like, no, out of all the teams you decided to go to, it's, it's in. And we put up there in Bloomington, you know, it's cold. So we put up there, Indiana, it's January. I get there and it's like two, three feet of snow. I'm like, dude, what am I doing? But then we went through the whole process. We got to the, to, I always talked about the Maryland game last year.

Maryland game was kind of like a real pivotal moment. That's kind of when we realized individually that we could play at this level. Then the home win against Michigan was huge. That's when we kind of realized as a team who we were. And then it kind of not shattered, but when we went down to a high, Ohio State, we realized like, damn, this is a big moment. Like, we lost to them.

That stadium was rocking. Like, honestly, I've never played in anything like that. That was rocking. So, but we definitely learned from that. We learned from Notre Dame. And then, you know, all the guys that came back, we kind of had a lot of experience. Then we got a lot of guys at the portal,

who are vets who played on winning teams. And then this season, we was tried. We went through Oregon. We went through Penn State. We went through Ohio State. We went through Iowa. So those were just some of the big games that kind of made us realize, like, we are one of the top dogs.

We are the top dogs for sure. And then going down, playing, playing SEC, playing Alabama, meeting them the way that we beat it, we was like, dog. Like, it's up to us. It's 100% in our hands to drop this ball. And we came up on top. Well, congratulations, Michael, on a very unbelievable season. Man, this is.

16 and 0, you're the first team. Well, in this era, in the college football playoff era, to win 16 games. Undefeated, unblemished, outstanding game. That game was on the edge of your seat. You didn't know what was going to happen to the very end. And at the end of the day, you guys stand at the top of the mountain. So congratulations to who's your nation out there.

And good luck in the draft, man. You know, come back and talk to us. What's his process is over. M.K., where are you from? Virginia. Are you from VA? Okay, okay. How long are you going to be down here in Miami?

I'm going to be there until in the March. Okay, in the March. Okay, okay. But you've been a two-sling. I have it. I have it. Okay.

Okay. We're going to go grab a little by D. No, I'm, I'm going to be. Hey, it's business first, but we can't have somewhere after it. Oh, yeah. Listen, listen, I take care of business, too, but you got to eat. You got to eat. But, Kyle, thank you.

so much for joining us, man. Thank you. Congratulations, and we'll see you down the road. Thank you, thank you. McCau-Kamara champion, defensive player of the game and the college football playoff national championship. And now his college dream is realized

he's a national champion, and now he goes down to Florida train for the draft and get ready to hopefully put some good numbers and gets drafted really, really high. All right, going back to the bills, Mr. Pagula also addressed what ball down in regards to firing Sean McDermott. Here's his reasoning, guys.

Again, I go back to 523-226, great roster, good coaching, no Super Bowl appearance. And I can't emphasize if I can put you all in that room at that moment after the game. It's like, how do we overcome this? you know it's been one year after another and that it was the sense of how do we overcome this and i just couldn't see us doing that with Sean that's why i relieved him it's not an easy decision trust me with that success but what is success is success being in the playoffs seven years in a row with no Super Bowl appearance

No standards Hey listen So he believes Bringing someone else in Changing everything up The coaches the players The continuity of Josh Allen had with that offense The defensive guys

The continuity they have with the defense of coordinator They think the chances are better Scrapping everything off Bringing in new coaches bringing a new regime, having the offensive players having to learn an entirely new offense and thinking things are going to change because you fire Mr. McDermott. Yeah. Like make it make sense.

You start back over from scratch, which you already do, but at least the same system and the continuity and the familiarity and knowing it makes it a little easier once you get into season and once you get in the flow. Now you start back over from scratch. Yeah. And you think things are going to be different. because you didn't go over to get over the hump. Okay.

Ocho, when we were talking. You remember when we were talking in October? I said, Ocho, at some point in time, the owner is going to believe that Sean McDermott is taking this team as far as he can take it. He said we had hit the playoff proverbial wall. Yeah. That's what he said.

Right. Now, he put an awful lot of blame on Sean McDermott. Now, Josh Allen turned the ball over four times. They turned the ball over five times as a team. Four of him in Josh's hands. Yeah. I hear you say nothing about that. Somebody got to take the plan.

You know, hey, hold on. You know, he's not going to throw his quarterback under the bus on. The quarterback is too valuable. Well, he threw the, he threw the ball under the bus. The quarterback means two bucks to him. I can tell you one, I tell you one thing. If he had said, if he had did Josh, now he could do that.

Josh is going to go home. Got. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. But here's my thing. They know who to play with.

What are you going to say, Ocho? No, I was just saying. They know who to play with. They know who to play with. Help me understand this, Ocho. He put all this blame on the coach. He said the coaches wanted Keon Coleman. So what role did Brandon Bean play in building this roster?

He only drafted. Did Brandon Bean draft Josh Allen? So he drafted two pro bowl bowl players since he's been there. And he thinks it's a great roster. Really? Hold on. Hold on. How long Mr. Bean been there, huh?

Hold on. Ash is looking it up right quick. Because I want to know when the Dionne Dawkins get there. He didn't draft Doc. I don't think he drafted Doc either. Okay. So he drafted his first draft with Josh Allen. The second draft with Josh Allen, okay.

Did he draft Doc? Because he's drafted two Pro Bowl players since Josh Allen. Obviously, we know Josh Allen's been to the Pro Bowl and he's been an MVP. Right. Okay. So I don't think this Rock is. is immensely talented.

I don't. I don't. They got no pro bowl, they got no pro boy players on defense. I think John, John Allen was the, Josh Allen was the pro bowl of this year, right? He's an alternate.

He was an alternate. I'm asking. So I'm thinking it is Drake May, Justin Herbert, and was it Trevor Lawrence or Josh Allen, the MVP, the Pro Bowl quarterbacks for the AFC? Okay, Josh Allen, so basically, and Dionne Dawkins made the Pro Bowl 2, didn't he? So they got no players on defense, and they got two players on offense, the left tackle and the quarterback.

Is it? James Cook. James Cook. James Cook, yeah. Oh, okay. So three. You got no players on defense. Yeah.

The Bronco got a left tackle, a right guard, and a, uh, and a, uh, a wide receiver. They got Pats or Tan. They got Nick Benito. And they got Zach Allen. So they got six pro bonkers. Okay, let's go to who else is, New England.

Drake, Greg May, Gonzalez. You ain't got no pro bono. And, now look, I ain't going to get on no soapbox for Sean McDermott. Your expertise is defense. Your defense has been trashed in the postseason.

They've been trashed, they give up over 30 points a game. Yeah. I don't you. You're not winning very many games, Ocho. In the playoffs, you give up 30 points. The playoffs is different than the regular season. You could give up 30 a couple of times in the regular season and win a game.

You start giving up 30 in the postseason. Your ass going home. Yeah. Hey, you know what? We already knew, we knew, Joe and Unk. We knew the goddamn bills didn't have much on offense. We think the moniker came from with Josh Allen, happened to be Superman.

You got to pull the cape out. He got to pull the cape out, Joe, because they don't have much. Josh Allen is one of the few quarterback. that could probably go on any team and elevate everybody else because what he's able to do. Josh Allen has to elevate everyone else that surround him and he has to do more with less. And that's what he's been able to do.

And we then coach and Mr. Bean up there talking about we have our, what's the word, per review? What's that? That's a big word for me. What you, what? Play off what? Oh, proverbial. Perverbual.

I like that. I like, hey, they hit the proverbial joke. Hey, Joe, they hit their proverbial. It's meaning that it's, It's not an actual wall, but that's what... That's as far as they can go, obviously. That's as far as they can go. So they hit their playoff.

The straw that broke the proverbial's camels back. Right, right, right. Hey, that's a new word for you, Joe. But I'm just saying, is the owner, you understand that. You understand, you know he needs more help. You know he needs more help offensively. And obviously, you want who, you know you want to be the ex-fetch. You would love Keon Coleman, as high as he went,

as far as being drafted. He's supposed to be that ex-factor. He's supposed to be that pie to say, you know what? You don't need to bring nobody else in here. I got this. I'm going to take some of the pressure off James Cook. I'm going to take some of the pressure off Josh Allen.

I'm going to take some of the pressure off of the officer coordinators. Because you know why? Bitch y'all can count on me. Just put the ball in the area. Just put it. That's what they thought, Ocho. Yeah, that's what they thought. But I'm going to make sure.

I'm going to make sure when I get a whole of him and he get back, It's going to be just like that. Shit. But they got me hot. Wait, they got me hot. Talk about that man like that. Probably. Remember, Kiann Kohn Komen, they got rid of Stefan Diggs last year, remember?

So he was supposed to come in. And take up, bingo, da-da. And Diggs balling. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, when they had, I mean, look, Josh and Diggs was a super duper connection. Mm-hmm.

And look, and look. they're looking at it like, okay, prior to Saturday, Josh hadn't turned the ball over in six games, oh Joe? That's crazy. He was on the roll. He was on the roll, uh, and that's always been his Achille Hill, Joe, in the past, in the past in his earlier days,

you know, the first two, three, four years, his problem in the ball over, turning the ball over because of his goddamn arm talent, crazy arm talent. I'm, you know what, I think I can squeeze that in there. I'm going to throw this rope. I'm gonna throw it anyway. I'm gonna let it go.

He would like Brett Fawd there. The bad day to be trash. He let me. Bad day to be trash, yon. Oh yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, those five interceptions

had more to do it with it than Sean McDermott. Now, Sean, like I said, and when we were talking about this, Ocho, you say, oh, it may have been to the player I said, oh, Joe. At some point in time, man, they're going, the owner's going to think

the man is gone as far. He keeps hitting his head on the ceiling this as far as they can go. Yeah. I mean, just knowing how owners think, Ocho, I said, yeah, this is not going to end well. This is not going to end well. Yeah.

You can't keep going, going to the playoff. And it's like two C, five C, six C, yes. But Josh brought you back last week against the Jacksonville. He has to play. The thing is, it's hard to continuously win when your quarterback has to be great every single game or you cannot win. Right.

There have been some games that Tom didn't play. play great, but they run you out of the building. Or the defense would get turnovers and stuff like that. But when Todd needed to be great, he was always great when he needed to. He could play like dog, dog poop. Let him need to drive to get in field goal range

or touchdown the beach. So win the game. He's going to get there. Every, every time. Like John Witherspoon said it Friday, that's your ass, Mr. Postman. Tom, Tom was coming.

But I, I don't like this. I don't like putting all this on Sean McDermott. I do me. I do think it was time for a different voice in there. But Brandon B, I'm just trying to figure out. Normally when they clean the house,

they clean everybody. The house stinks, but all y'all did was clean the living room. What about the bathroom? What about the fish that y'all left in there for three days? Oh, I got a question. Once McDermott gets fired,

doesn't all his staff go to? Yeah, absolutely. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Well, that's clean the house. No, I'm talking about the general manager. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. In power clean, oh, okay.

You want everybody going out. How are you going to keep the hair and throw out the hide? The hair got to go with the hide. Everything got to go. That's a good one. Man, please. But I don't, I don't, I don't like this. This is not, I don't, I don't think this was very, very professional of Mr.

Begoula to take this opportunity to try to dump on Sean McDermott, to try to dump on Keon Coleman. Well, he got to take the pressure off. He got to take the pressure off him, huh? Joe, that's the game they play, Joe. That's the game they play. How do I take the pressure off of me? I point the finger at everybody else,

even though I'm the one in position of power, making the cause. So technically, I'm just as responsible as Mr. McDermott. Because everything got to go through you anyway. Absolutely. You get a green light to everything. So what part do you play in this, Mr. Pagoolo. And I told you, Ocho, remember, they got this new stadium coming. Don't they move in that new stadium next year?

Damn, they finished the arrest? Yes, yes. Yes, they got to do, I told you. Well, they, is it, is it a, is it closed now? I don't know. I mean, I, I wouldn't put no, I wouldn't put no dome in Buffalo. Because I, that's, to my advantage. Right.

Man, hell, this is. Well, it ain't, it ain't too much advantage. Shit. They didn't been home every goddamn. But a lot of times, look, they haven't, they haven't, and a lot of this, I'm sure Mr. Bagulu was looking, like, hold on. The proverbial walls have been removed from Mahomes, Lamar, got, especially, now, Lamar has never beaten Josh in the postseason,

but Mahomes, he has. and Joe Burrow has. So two of the thorns that's been in my side have been removed. And we still can't get there. Yeah, this was a, this was their year. And this might be why I meant to being and Pagula are upset.

I can understand it because, hell, no Lamar. You ain't got to deal with him, you got to deal with Joe. You ain't got to deal with, you know, brother Mahomes. Well, hell, the AFC is clear for us. I think the only issue is the only problem. I would have thought. He backstabbit.

The Patriots. Ocho, how, how you losing just as much as Sean McDermott, he gets fired, you get a job promotion. Yeah. You know that, hey, that's the game they play. I'm like, hold on. How I lose my job, he gets elevated. Mm. Mm.

So, oh, the coach, the coach wanted him. So what about all them other players that ain't paying about like they're supposed to? Coach one of them too, huh? Okay. And that's crazy, boy. Oh, Joe, Joe, before we go to the next topic, we want to give people a very special sneak peek

at the first episode dropping next week of the content we shot in New York. We want to give a special, a special shout out to Roe that made this all possible. So thank you, Ro Sparks. Y'all know who is a special favorite on Chan and Sharp, and we at the Lawn Club in New York for Ro. Hey, hey, they used to call me Tiger Hood.

I ain't my only punt no more. I don't want to take no more on my shots. You see what he's trying to do. Look how he hacking. No. That's it's over. I get one back, yo. No, no, no, no.

You got to make four bucks. No, but I get one back. What was the last game-changing innovation introduced into your sex life? This is the last great adventure. The last great adventure. That's it, Roe. That Roe Spart. Yes, sir.

Yeah. That road spark. You ain't lying. Boy, we have a time. We have a time. Man. Hey, we got to do that again. And that's just a small, that's just a small snippet.

Chad, wait to y'all see you. Boy, hey. All of us say is this, y'all gonna see a side of old ISO. Y'all go see a side, people gonna see a side that you never thought you'd see from ISO. He cut up, chat. Never. I just want y'all to know. Y'all thought me and Ocho, no.

Oh, oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah. Joe, hey, Joe was, I ain't even know who was. Yeah, Joe showed out. I was like, I was like, who was this? Hey, Chad, I'm, I got one thing to say. Your boy put down a mean demonstration.

You hear me? I put down a mean. See how he was on Choos? You see how he about Joe? See, hey, talk, hey, talk. Hey, now what he told us on Joe? Hey, you know, I ain't gonna say too much. But you know, because I don't do,

I don't do too much talking. You know, I don't do too much talking. Y'all look at it. Chad, y'all be proud of you. your boy chat. See, you hear? You hear of what I said? I thought I was saying. Hey, I ain't going to say that else.

Hey, Uncle Ocho. Hey, man, listen. Me, Uncle Ocho, Matt, Damon, Ben Affleck, man, we had a time. You hear me? Yeah. They say, man, what job are they doing in New York? I said, man, we kicked it. We kicked it.

Hey, before y'all see, before y'all see, I just want to, I want to let y'all know that Joe, he's coming off injury. got bad hips, bad knees. So I just like it. I just want you all. There we go. Don't do that, Ocho. Don't do that.

Don't do that. Hey, I had the spell. They didn't want to hear all that, Ocho. They don't want to hear all that. Hey, call it. Your mouth, I felt bad. Your mouth, I'm to being honest. I felt bad.

You wrote all these checks that your ass couldn't care. Yeah. That's what you happened. Alligator mouth, Herming Bullard ass. Alligator mouth, Herman Bored ass. Now, hold on. Hold on, nah. I was being very respectful of my elders.

As a matter of fact, when we're going to do another one, you're not going to win, though, Cho. We're not going to let you win. Hold on, it depends on what we do. Unless we run in 100 yard dash, you ain't winning it, is. Hey, hey. Oh, man, trouble. Hold on, hold on.

There you go. There he go. There he goes. You feel the talking about chat? You feel about it? Look at it. Oh, you got to cheer. Hey, hey, as Jordan.

We got to get the nightcap belt. I got to cut. I've been running things since. I told y'all, man, listen, if I don't win, I don't eat, you hear me? Huh? You see what I'm talking about, Chad? You see what I'm talking about, chat? Listen, listen, listen, listen.

Chat, y'all stay with me. Boy, y'all gonna be proud of you, boy, you hear me? You're like the new kid on the block. Y'all should see how they treated me in their first episode. It was bad. It was bad. They treated me bad. Ooh, they treated me bad.

But I locked in. When I locked in, I seen red. I went off. I went, but I was. I was. Hey, you know what? Hey, Joe, you know what? Joe, I'm glad you're confident.

I'm glad you're talking spicy. Unk. I'm glad you're excited. You know, you're feeling good about yourself. But how about we play things that I'm familiar with? Like ping pong. Oh, Joe. Ocho.

Everything that we played you were familiar with. Oto. Oto. What? Like what? Everything that we played? No, I ain't know about that we played. I ain't either.

I ain't either. I didn't either. I didn't either. I didn't. I didn't know. You just said you tiger hood. But you lost the Arna Palm Tree. You know what I'm saying?

Or on a potter tree. That's stop. No, Chad. Y'all, hey, one time was had, though. But Joe, hey, Joe was on one. Joe's talking. I'm like, hold on. I'm looking at Ocho.

I'm like, Ocho. Who is? I don't know who that was. I don't know who that was. We had a hell of a time. That's what happened. We had a good time. That's right.

Joe, your day coming. I just want you to know, chat. Joe Day is coming. It is coming sooner than you think. Oh, yeah. I'm ready. Charles Barkman says inside the NBA crew isn't happy about their lack of appearances. When I was talking about working all the time, I'm not going to do all these damn shows.

I'm not going on ESPN, 1, 2, 3, De Portes, Nach, Echo, whatever they call it. I'm not going to be doing all that. But I wish we'd have been doing more than the first half of the season. Because I don't think they've only been on, like, what, like two or three times? Yeah, man. Hey, listen, I look forward to. to seeing them three on that, man. Well, not three, four.

I look forward to seeing them on there getting it. So, yeah, I hadn't seen them, but a couple of times seemed like, Uncle Ocho, they, you know, they hadn't been as visible as when they were on TNT, bro. Right. That's the whole, look. Why they did that, huh? I look, the money, yeah.

Well, you got to pay them anyway. And I know you want to, you know, like, your NBA today, your NBA crew, I understand that. But people, look, Chuck, Kenny, Ernie, and Shaq, people want to, people want to hear what, what Chuck going to say. Yeah. He's going to act a fool.

Shack going to be a fool. They want to see Kenny race to the board. Yeah. Put them on. Why are you paying them all that money, all that money that you're paying them? And you ain't had them up with like two or three times the first half? You think maybe, maybe they want to go in a different direction?

No. Because if they wanted to go in a different direction, ESPN could have just let them go. Because T&T don't have foot, don't have basketball anymore. they could have just let them go, but they realized the ratings ain't nothing they're going to put on. Nobody's going to put on going to beat Shaq, Ernie, Kenny, and Chuck. I don't care what network, Peacock, Amazon is.

They're not beating them. No. Yeah. They're different altogether, man. The chemistry is phenomenal. But it's hard because that is Disney. And Chuck and Kenyon, the way they're behaving sometimes. That's not, Disney probably looking at it.

That's not the best representation. but you knew what you bought. I mean, how do I purchase a snake and don't expect to get bit at some point in time? Every person that's ever handled a snake has been bitten at some point in time. I don't care whether it's venomous or none. Hopefully it's not an inland Tai Pan or Western Tai Pan or Carmen Brown. I'm hoping it's not one of those because unless you're in the emergency room, there's a good chance you ain't going to make it.

Yeah, I had one of them an element. A snail, you ain't had no damn Ellen Taipan. No, I had the other one. Common Brown? You had a common brown. You must be living in Australia there. No, no, no, I had him shit from Australia. Oh, I got him.

Yeah, I got him for Christmas. We called his name with Charlie Brown, huh? Yeah, yeah. Man, Ocho, you got to cut it out. Ocho, first of all, you scatter snakes. Why would I be scared? Ever since that zoat pull that snake out on your girl. Hey.

Hey, come on, man. Let them live. Let them live. Hey, hey, hey, come on, man. Hey, my bad on, Cho. Hey, hold on, I came on here. I thought it was a same place to be vulnerable and share some of separate. I get that.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Chad, I'm sorry, Chad. Chad, I'm sorry. Hey, listen, I ain't telling you all, no, no, my, like, come on, Joe, come on my, man. Don't do that. Hey, you know, this good therapy, man, this good therapy,

it's a good therapy, it's a good thing. Listen, I got so, eh, uh, a joke, I got so many good stories, right? That's about good stories. We went on them. I got stories. That was young. That was, I was a freshman.

Now, listen, I've been done wrong many times after that. times I know no like the way I'm making fun of me I don't even want to be vulnerable okay I go make fun of you got you okay you got chill you got I'm sorry get a man some grave yeah man like I hey hey Joe I hey hey hey hey they didn't know oh Joe yeah they didn't put me through the what you know the man got yeah a lot of trauma and scars man laid that anaconda huh hey well hold on you Joe I ain't really got no scars right I ain't really got no trauma, right?

Because I already know, Joe. Like, I think with logic, I think with common sense. You know through that experience, though, like that. Right, right. And, you know, you love it. You love to give people the benefit for the doubt. And sometimes the benefit of the doubt is the same thing that end up burning you in the end.

Yeah. I'm not far, Ocho. Yeah, you're good because I'm getting a little emotional right now. And now what I'm not going to do is I'm not going to cry because that's going to be another joke. No, I ain't a bite on. I ain't going to let him do that. So can I get you?

Look, if anybody made fun of you, I always got you back. I can make fun of you, but they can't. I got you back too. Yeah. Okay, okay. Okay. That constrict on them.

Yeah. Man, I can just imagine. Man, look, here. It's what somebody to tell you that your girl or your wife whatever's been but the actual see it. And see that monster he had on him? Ah, man.

Come on, man. Come on. Come on. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. That man came up by the car and back it up. He didn't have.

He's going to go. He's going. Hey, Joe. That man hit the hop down off of Ocho, girls. He could, Hey, uh, hey, Hey, hi, Hey, how you,

wind it up? Wined up one more time. Hey, he's like, give me a second chance. No, man, Ocho, you know, that's traumatic. That's a very traumatic experience.

You don't know. That's a, that's a, I mean, Ocho, if you did something, man, that's a crime of passion. Yeah, but you see, I,

it wasn't traumatic to me. I, listen, I'm, I'm, I'm very, understanding of human nature, Joe. You hear me? Yo, I'm very understanding of human nature, Joe. So I've been there, I understand. We all make mistakes. Right. Right. Some mistakes you can come back from. And I had too

much to lose. Even at a young age. You're right, Ocho. You right. You know what? Oh, that's what you choose to do? Okay, cool. Heady of business. I'm gone. I went on to live a very good place and still living in it, Joe. You know, and hold on. I ain't even tell you, you know, social media, make it easy to get back the people you ain't seen in years. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you gotta do it type of name, man. And long-

You found her! Who do you think after I told a story when in my team trying to call- Oh, man, get out of here. Hey, talk about, hey, how you doing? I heard you talk about. Cause you-you-a-o. I see you do it.

Oh-jo. Ain't no more trail on that tie after that zone got through. Hey, who are you telling? That was 20 years. Ojo, Ocho, she's you with, she's you with a hey big head. Yeah, like, you really think I'm going to let you, man, stop playing me. Oh, my bad. My bad.

Yeah, hey, um, she, I'm assuming she must watch the show. I ain't, I ain't going to say a name. Had the nerd a slide in my DM. Talk about, hey, I, hey, I see you or you remember what happened back then when I was a senior. Yeah, I was a freshman. And you heard. Damn. Damn.

Oh, Joe. I'm sorry. Yo, Ocho. Oh, Joe. Hey, Joe, I ain't going to bring it up no more. Okay. I ain't going to bring it up no less either. Hey, I can't believe that, uh-do.

Hey, um-do, hey, Joe, like the audacity. Like the audacity, like, how are you trying to spin the block 30 years later? Yeah. Yeah, I'm, I'm, listen. Hey, listen, Ocho, you miss all the jump shots you never take, bro. She shot her jumper, man. Yeah. Hey, well, listen, I blocked it like I was checked.

Huh, uh-uh, I hit it with that McComb. Ocho, but since our last time bringing it up, the Haitian must have been the first customer of Roe Sparks, Ocho. If prescribed new sexual health patients, get $15 off their first order of Sparks on a recurring plan. Connect to a provider, ro.c.co slash nightcap,

to find out if a prescription row Sparks are right for you. Damn, Ocho. What happened? Hey, hey, boy, I'm feeling bad, boy. I'm thinking about that. What? I'm just like, like, the dast. Like, oh, okay, all, Joe's the sad.

Like, they're really slat of my DM knowing how you tried me when I was a jit. And, like, you coming back, I'm, I'm 58, now, and you know I ain't even going to go for that bull drive at this age. But, also, I mean, just think if he was in the bed, he could have rid of trampoline. What? How about a little bit of rule? back there that little car they say we're little fiat

you just said you were going to stop talking about hey see them said Joe Joe you see what I'm saying they just said that they thought that Fiatr had hydraulics on the thing that they were bouncing up and down okay okay yeah I know not the shit come on Ocho come on man bye man no man come oh I got you I got you I got you I got you got cheer for real you got you got chill you got chill

Let it's all good. It's all good. Now, if I start crying and then he goes, he laughing. No, I'm sorry, Ocho. I'm sorry. I mean, you know what, Ocho? I can't, you know what?

That's my partner right there. Hey, man, y'all leave that long. Y'all don't bring that up, man. Oh, man. I appreciate it. Hey, can I change this up? Yes. Okay, hey, chat, y'all listening?

Chat, stop fucking laughing. Oh, my goddamn time. Hey, chat. Listen to me. I'm going to change this subject before we're going to the next topic real quick. How do you make since, you was using Kleenex just now? Yes. How do you make a Kleenex dance?

Chat, how do you make a Kleenex dance? Put some boogie in it. That's a good one, on? That's a good one. I'm glad you knew that one, no. Hey, Joe. Is that right? Yeah, put a boogie in it.

Yeah, put a boogie in it. Hey, Joe. Hold on, hold on. Hey, what do you call a basketball? I got that one right? Hey, Joe. Yeah, he got it right. You know, Kleenex put a book in.

Yeah, I know. He'd be over there cheating, too, though. I ain't, no, no. I didn't. He answered that too fair. Hey, Joe, what you call a basketball player with no shins? I don't know, Joe. A basketball player with no shins, you call him Tony.

Because if you ain't got no shins, only thing left is the toe in the knee, nigga. Tony. No, that Ocho, man. Ocho, man. Ocho, I am so sorry, man. I'm so sorry. What happened?

But, oh, let me tell you about these road sparks. Me and Jordan, we had, like, we've had three signers out here. Yeah. Man, and three sides, we had two young dudes showed up at all three of them. Man said, oh, you ain't lying. No sparks, the truth. I'm somebody, they're like 24, 25. So I can just imagine.

Right, right. If I'd have had no thing without 24, 25, you'd be popping them thing like they were Skittles. What? Yeah, you be. Oh, Joe. I don't lie, Ocho. Yeah.

I had a roast part and I had this circle. I dropped that roast bark in the circle straight now. I had lied to you. What a God did? Straight to a circle. I put that roast bark in the middle. Circle, straight. Boy, look here.

The roast bark, the truth. Nothing but Yeah Hey Right here Oh, Ro Hey, you know what I think I'm thinking about

That might get me a Roe Sparks tattoo What? You know, you don't want You went too far Hey, Joe, that's going too far See, this is why I come in When I, you know, I try to

help make some sense of what you're thinking about Yeah, I think you would do I think you're going too far on this one Okay, but Joe, you know, I got I got 47 tattoos. One more. I know.

You don't need. What you're going to get the Rose Sparks tattoo for? Give me the meaning behind it. Product placement. Huh? Product placement. Product placement? Product placement.

What are you thinking about getting it at? On Russell. I know. What you got for? Hey, no, I'm just saying. It'd be great advertisement. Like, listen, Rose Sparks, right? we as a show

we are endorsed by them and we endorse them I'm trying to take it to the next level when it comes to marketing and branding boom put get the advertisement on Russell

you know my that's what I call it Russell love muscle yeah so boom boom when he saw he rode but then when he get hard it sparks

you get it rose sparks oh you're going to let this go on up you're going to let this go I can't stop it I can't stop it. I'm just saying, Joe. You're thinking about getting a tattoo your nails,

aren't you? Who? You? No, I ain't got no tattoo. I got, I got the beard. This is all I got. This is what I got. You know, my beard coming in pretty good, Joe.

My girl, and off the hook, Mel. I told you. Some beard oil smelling really good. So, hey, y'all looking for some beer oil. Off the hook, if you're in Atlanta, go ask for male. I don't know male last name, but she had the back back there.

I told you. Well, they've been complimenting their beard, boy. Yeah, they'd be complimenting it. It been real good. Hey, ever since you grew that thing, I'm talking about every, that's every, every, every blog you've been on,

all the women. Boy, that's salt and pepper, but I, yeah, yeah, now you got me, you got me thinking about growing my eyes. I'm about to get on them cookies, then.

What's that? You say you've been to get on them cookies. Oh, you're going to eat some. Yeah, you know. Okay, okay. Maybe, maybe grow a little bit. Okay. No, I just play it.

Hold on, what kind of, wait, what kind of, Cookies we talk about. You're talking about. Yeah. Cookie. Oh, and you don't eat the front end of the back? Whoa.

Whoa. Go too far, Ocho. Come on, man. I mean, you don't have a soul. Just because I'm up next door, don't mean I'm going to knock on that doughy, too. Hello. I'm in Joe neighbor.

I'm over here. I just came to visit. Hey, how you doing? You're good. You got to see, you can't even have a good time. Damn. We were having it. Well, we was having a good time.

I'm just saying if you're going to do something. No, no, no. I know I'm around the corner and I could just drop in, but I'm not. Yeah, sometimes you got to go through the back door. Slip of the tongue ain't nobody fault. You right, round the corner? Hey, hey, boy, you're out here. See, I'm just trying to see, I'm trying to do.

Man. I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to how you do right. I'm trying to do right, but you, you, you, you won't have my moment. Why I got to do all that? What can we take baby steps? Hey, listen. Hey, baby steps. But, hey,

we don't, tomorrow ain't promised. What you talk about? What you talk about? Baby steps. Like we, like we are about 20s. We ain't got time to wait for a mo. Just because you do what you do, man, don't make you no bad brother now.

No, no. We just know not to drink out the same cup as you. I mean, that's okay. Why you can't do that same cup at me? Oh, no, wait. Yeah, come on. Come on. What?

Ain't nothing wrong. Ain't nothing wrong with our, Oh, yeah, I'm good. I'm good. Hey, I'm a ho cup. I'm a drink like this hero. Like I'm in the jazz drinking out of canteen.

Oh, no, you can't put your lips on Ocho Cup. Hey. This could be Steve Kerr last year with the Warriors for the ring of the ring of Logan Murdoch. This is the final year of his contract. And of Wednesday, he has yet to sign a new deal, though Kerr has publicly been mum about his future.

Multiple assistant coaches have been operating under the premise. that he will not return next season, according to team sources, with some surveying the league to secure jobs next season. Joe, what are your thoughts? I can see that, Ankenocho. I can see, I can see just being current last year.

Without announcing it, I don't know if they offered him a contract, but obviously he hadn't signed one. So I can see this been his last year. You know, I think that team has been, obviously, he came into a dynasty, I would say that. I thought Mark Jackson done a great job. But I thought Steve Kerr, rep, you know,

reap the benefits of having that great team. And they got a dynasty, bro. I think this is it, though. I think this is last hurrah. Just to be behind it. So I'm glad you said that, Joe. And you could probably correct me, chat, for those you that know basketball

and have a better knowledge of the game than I do. Well, if this is his last stop and he's no longer going to be there, they're not going to extend him. is there any reason for Steph Curry to still stay? I mean, Steph strike me as a guy that wants to be a one jersey guy, Ocho. He want to be a magic. He want to be a bird. I think that's what separates.

You know, because all the other, the superstars in his era, LeBron, K.D., possibly Janus, will have moved. Kobe, magic, bird, some of the greats, you know. So, hold on, we just saw Damien Lillard extend his. stay in Portland for no reason. So now you're telling Steph Curry to do the same thing. No, I'm not telling him to, but I'm just talking about how he, he's probably thinking. Yeah, he shouldn't think like that because you just saw Dame extending his stay way too long.

I don't know. I've seen some, I've been saying Steph Curry wore all these different shoes because he's a free agent, you know, on the footwear side. I can see him playing somewhere else on. Really? See? Yeah. Yeah.

There you. Thank you, Joe. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know for whatever reason. I can see him playing somewhere else because I feel like he deserves to play on another great team with some other great players. Not to say that the Golden State Warriors doesn't have it.

I just don't, I think they ran out with championships. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're not constructed the window championship. Yeah. They're not even close. You lose Jimmy Butler the other night. It's over now. He tore his ACL.

So it's like you got, that's a big void to feel. Yeah. I can, man, I can see him somewhere else. So how about this? And I'm not playing 2K. Janus to the Knicks, LeBron to the Knicks, and Steph. I can see LeBron possibly going to Golden State

and play it with Steph. Ooh, okay, okay. I see where you're going. I see, hey, I'm picking what you're putting down. They're going to get out there wide, wide west. They're going to go out east. Go east? Yeah, yeah.

It ain't. It's easy to come out of ease, huh? As currently constructed, yes. Hey, they wins. You beat yourself up. By the time you get to the conference finals in the Western Conference, boy, you're going to have to have some young thoroughbreds.

Okay, okay. I mean, y'all, uh, broad, your fridge, and what if you go team up with Ant Man? Ooh. That's not a thing like the market. Even though he makes the market, I don't see him going to Minnesota. I'm with Ocho on that one.

I think, I, I, I don't know why the Knicks keep popping up in my head with Brun, but I can see that because I just feel like, you know, he won a championship in L.A. in the bubble. Obviously, people put an asterisk beside it, but I think that was tough. He won a championship. Man, that man messing around, go to New York and win a title. Come on, okay, what are we talking about? Yeah. New York, they've been looking at great as of late.

I've been hearing a lot of rummlins over there. Who that? New York, New York Knicks. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. You see Jalen Brunton call the team on our players only meeting? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. They're going to shake it up, though. All right. We're going to get out of here on this with this time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Ooh, hey, Joe. I'm watching Shay.

Okay, see, playing. He's getting to it. Man, and that boy got a bag. Like, I keep peeking up by accident. And every time I peek up, he's doing something. That's like me, you and unk. It's me against you and unk. Just wang.

Okay, my bad, my bad. There you go. There you go. See what I'm saying? Ocho? See what I'm saying? Hey, hey, y'all. You know, see how he is?

There you go. Go ahead, Unc. Kemprenow Wood Jr. Oh, I agree with Ocho. I believe Malik Willis would be a better fit in Miami than Tua. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And Tua, Tua already asked for a change of scenery.

He would welcome. He made those comments. yeah so so he's probably not going to be there i like malik willis and just definitely going somewhere huh oh yeah he will it to him oh mali oh yeah he ain't it's a hold on it's a few teams gonna be after him now i like him he nice yeah eric jordan scott i've been waiting all day for this i got popcorn ready and everything i couldn't wait to see unc cream uh keon coleman this is going to be a good one it should be a wake-up call to hear your owner come out like basically I ain't wanting.

Yeah. We ain't wanted. Not to say we wouldn't have taken it. We probably wouldn't have taken them as high as we did. That's a wake-up call. What a wake-up call, as Ocho said, when you're healthy scratches. Yeah. This is even worse.

This is even worse than the healthy scratch because now not only you're a healthy scratch, you kind of know why you're healthy scratch. Yep. But to hear how they really feel about you, well, that's that hurt. Need it, man. need it. He needed. K.L. B. 99. Sorry if I missed it, but you

didn't see Bengals release Jermaine Burton. Do you think he gets a chance somewhere else? Love the show. Ochoa, I think that's a question for you because you know the young man you've had a conversation with him. He has some things going on. I don't know to what extent. But what can you tell us about that situation, Ocho?

I mean, it's obviously talking to Jamar, talking to T. They tried to take J.B. Jermaine Burton under his wing. There were some issues coming late, casino stuff, gambling stuff, some stuff publicly outside of football,

personal stuff that was going on. And I think it's been too much and he just wasn't able to catch on. I think they gave him chance at the chance at the chance. I'm not sure, being that he is so young, being that he is in an immense talent, I think he may catch on somewhere else and someone else will give him a chance

because he's, I mean, he's young, He's talented. He's fast. He can help a team if he can get his affairs in order off the field so he can focus on what to do on it. Caleb said this stroke broke down. Mine running perfect. Would I pick him up in the snowstorm?

No. A. Up was hell in the lead. Man, that was the, with me and Ray Buchanan was going at it at the Super Bowl. Sheldon Pope, ISO. You've been Atlanta for some time now. What's your Atlanta hip-hop Mount Rushmore?

Damn. Atlanta hip hop, man. I got, uh, I grew up on T.I. Obviously, T.I. Ludacris, uh, Outcast, goody-mart. You better have Usher on that. Usher really ain't from. Yeah, he is. He was raised here.

I think he's from like Tennessee somewhere. He is from Tennessee. But he caught ATL home for them. I know, I know. I know he was raised here. Well, yeah, you got to put Usher in that, bro. Top five. And they got so many

It got so many You can do a top five You got Luda You mentioned TI You got future Outcast GZZZZ Yeah

Goody Mob Gucci Goody Mob Yeah It's so many To have a top five You can ask everybody From Landa

Who they're top five Are you're going to be in there If you're talking hip hop, or she's going to be in there Usher not hip hop That's R&B So So hip hop Gotta be rap?

Yes. No. That's a different genre. No. Usher. Anything musical, Usher. All right. But,

my Rushmore rappers, three stacks, got to be there. Oh, yeah, yeah, Andre. GZ, Ti. Luda. I got Luda,

my guy. Man, if Luda jumped on a feature, it was a rap. You already know what it was. us. Yeah, looted, nice, boy. You already know what it was. Luda nice. Yeah.

Hey, it's special out here, boy, ain't. Bligh, 91. The media thinks LeBron is better than Kobe. NBA players and former NBA players don't think that all he's named is same universe as COVID. He's not the same universe as

COVID. Okay, if you want to say Kobe is better than LeBron, I'm not fin to fight you. We'll debate that another day. But to say he's not the same universe, you high. Now you just, now you just, now you just saying stuff. Now you just saying stuff. You just saying stuff.

You know what the difference is, don't. Hey, Joe, you know what the difference is? LeBron is great. Kobe is great. Kobe has a different mentality in his approach to the game. Kobe is a stone, cold killer, boy. No mercy.

He ain't trying to be a friend. He don't kid nothing about what you got going in your life. He got there on that court. He's trying to kill you. Same with Michael Jordan. Mentality. Their approach to the game. LeBron is just as great.

He just goes about it in a much different way. I agree. A much different way. A much different. A long time lead score. And he's going to be top three and assists. The game. And he's going to be top five and three pointers.

The game going to miss him when he's going on, I can hold Joe. They won't miss them. For the first time, for the second time, so for 21 straight seasons, LeBron James was always the best player on his team. Was Kobe always the best player on his team? I mean, you have a half of the conversation. Who was more valuable when he was with Shaq?

Shaq was the best player on that team from 96, 97, 98, 99, 2009, 2000, 2001. Whoa. At 2001 was like a toss-up. Both of them average, like, 35 a game in the playoffs, bro. Hold on, Joe. You agreeing with Uncle's that? I said this.

Unk saying that Shaq was the best player all of them years. I'm saying that last year, I'm saying Kobe was, he was carrying them just as much as Shaq was carrying them. Well, his last year was 03. I mean, I'm talking about that 01 season. Oh, you're talking about the team when they beat, when they beat Indiana? Yeah. When they had to go through, when they went through Sacramento or San Antonio. Yeah.

I mean, it's just hard for me to say somebody that average in 36 and 16. Oh, you got, look, Kobe numbers was right there with him. I don't know if it was 36, but it was like 35. No, I think Kobe average like 30. Oh, you're talking about regular season or postseason? I'm talking about postseason in the playoffs that year. Because I think Kobe that year, I think Kobe in the regular season was damn close. he might have been, I mean, he might have averaged more than Shaq.

Yeah. He was, I'm talking about to be like, 20, Shaq was just so dominant back then, man. I mean, it was just ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, Shaq was nice. But the thing is, Shaq was dominant, but Kobe was at the tender age of 21, 20, 20, 22 years old when he was winning titles, man.

Yeah. Like, I think that's what a lot of people fail to realize. Man, he was, he came into the league at 17, 18 years old. By the time he was 20, 21, Ocho, he was winning. in championships. Championships. Like, oh,

now we got to concede now. Those first, okay, if you want to say at the end, okay, he was, but those first, those first championships,

there was no doubt. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no question. No question. The way he went, what he did,

the matumbo? Ooh. And, and, and the Nets, I think they played the Nets. Yeah. Yeah,

because they played them a couple times, I think. Huh? They played them a couple times in the finals that year because Jake, kid and Kenyon Martin and all them and Richard Jefferson.

Well, they played the year AI won the MVP. Shaq beat them. Oh yeah, that was 01. And then 0, 2000. Who did they beat in 2000? Was that the Pacers? Yeah, it was the Pacers.

Reggie Miller. Yeah. And then they beat the Nets the next year because I think the next, then the San Antonio, then San Antonio beat the name. But it was, it wasn't, when you got to the finals when they was playing back then, Alcanocho, you knew they was going to win.

It was the conference finals when they was playing against them. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, to beat San Antonio or Sacramento. Whoever won was going to win the championship. Yeah. Yeah. No question. Alpha bodies, Keon, out there doing the stanky leg and the cabbage pad at the butt twerking and ankle

breaking with no team. Tighten up, fam. Yeah. Look, he just had to. to mature. He just has to grow up. And some people mature faster than others. Some people come in and they already got a lunch pal on the hard hat and they understand the task and the assignment. And some guys, you know, they have to get wake up calls.

Sometimes they have to get released. Sometimes they have to get a public scolding, whatever the case may be. As long as he receives the message that the Buffalo bills are clearly trying to send Ocho and Joe, he'll be just fine. Yeah. Yeah. You got to hope he receive it that way, though, Ocho. I do. Everybody, you know, everybody don't, you know, take criticism that well. You know what I mean?

Like, he may not, it may not hit him like that. We saying that it'll put us into another drive. Like, it'll force me to want to be better next year. It'll force me to. Yes. I'll be in the gym right now working out if I heard that. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Bernie McGowrin. Ocho with the Iberian jersey, as can you please send me an address and I'll send Ocho a Dundee FC jersey. My team, larger, extra large, much love from Scotland. P.S. Unk and Ocho, you need to try Haggis.

Hagus. What is that? Oh, yeah, yeah, I saw that. I saw that. Andrews. We're going to try it. That's what we're going to try. What's that? Hagus. It's sheep heart, what else?

It's sheep heart, liver, and lungs. What? Yep. Ocho. What's up? Yeah, you ain't paying attention over there. That man, you hear you hear what that man trying to have you eating? Man, I mean, I mean whatever, Joe. You do, Joe.

Joe, hey, Joe, you hear me, Joe. Hey, I'm eating, whatever, boy. And you put it in front of me, boy. Joe, you want it to? I guarantee you. You ain't going to pay the swan and stuff. What are they talking about hot liver? What?

Yeah. What? Joe, you don't eat no liver? He's talking about it. He's done by. In Scotland's National Dish. Oh, uh, Joe and Ocho, we got to try some eyeballs too. So that thing popped.

Oh, come on. Oh, hey. Hey, eyeballs. Yeah. Go see eye balls, Joe. I like that. Hold on, you can't, you can't chew them though. No, it's going to pop.

You got to you got it. You got to swallow it. Yeah, that's why you don't chew it. You just swallow it. You got to chew it. You got to. No, what's wrong with you? No, you don't throw up.

Don't worry about it. Hey, Joe, you ain't, you ain't never had chocolate frog legs? I'd had some frog legs before now. I said chocolate with the chocolate I ain't had no chocolate No I want no chocolate What about chocolate chocolate Chocolate covered ants

No I don't have chocolate cover ants It better be a snicker bar Or a Reese's cup Or Hershey kiss That's the only type That's the only I don't know I don't want I don't want a protein

Covered with chocolate You know what I'm saying steak, frog leg Anything like that No no no I want chocolate to be chocolate Okay All right

I mean they put the chocolate alone to kind of take the taste away from. And I want to taste. Now, maybe Carmel, you know what I have. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm a cow. You know, just saying, Ocho, just said.

Almighty James, I'm guessing Ocho came in last night. Where do you go, Ocho? I think he said he guessing Ocho came in last. Uh, yes. Are we talking about the... You know what? No comment.

I ain't. I don't put nobody business out there like that. But? Oh, that's how you're not. No, I didn't say nothing. I said no. I said no. Okay.

That's Joe over to do it all that. I said, I don't put no people. I don't put people business out there like that. All right. Okay. I see what type of time. Hyper King said, what do you guys? What are your thoughts on the Pistons?

For the Eastern Conference, Detroit, Basket. ball love the show Detroit guy hey they're gonna be the deal with hello they probably should have took the Knicks out last year because they had a lead in all the games and end up losing it late but the way Kay Cunningham playing those guys playing now man

hey they're gonna be a tough out yeah I had them beating the Knicks last year but with the leap of that Jalen Duren cat yeah I think they're gonna definitely have two all stars in Kay Cunningham and Jalen Durenne they I like I like the pistons on the old show.

Like I say, when you get to March and April, you want to be clicking, you want to have that chemistry going. And right now, they've been carrying it throughout the whole season, man. They just got to stay healthy. They got to stay healthy. I agree. Chiquan Bowser. Remember when Brandon Bean said about having a Rams-like collapse in 2023,

they haven't improved since then, and the Rams have rebuilt their defense. They have. They have. They have rebuilt. their defense. U-W1906, Shannon, can we finally talk about

these Australian punters who literally run into a punt rush and get the damn punt block? It calls you the Natty. Yeah, I still don't understand that veering off to the right as they punt the ball. Oh, they'll go to the left.

Because what they're trying to do is they're trying to punt the ball away from the return, not punt it right down the field, right down the middle of the field. You can learn that. I mean, a great punt. can directionally punt without veering off to the right or to the left. Well, that's a part of learning how to punt.

You running right into the damn danger. Well, you see that in college. And all, but damn to all college kick your Dupon and doers now. Right. Well, the guy could have blocked that guy. He could have blocked McHale. If he, I mean, that's his job. He didn't try.

Yeah. The end didn't block him nor be upback. He ran right by him, mocho. Being lazy, man. Because like he said, the first time, he's like, damn, I got closer than I thought, and I wasn't even trying. Right. Let me see what happened if I try.

That one thing you don't want to hear, that double thud. And you look back and can't find the damn ball. That concludes this episode of Nightcap, I want to thank each and every one of you for joining us tonight. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite aunt. My partner and co-host, Liberty City's Own, Bingles Ring of Fame, Honorary, a former Pro bowler and an all pro.

That's Chad Ocho Sink. O'Johnson, the third member of the big three, to what the head, look at it, Ocho. You see what I'm saying, Ocho? I told you, I told you, Ocho. I told you. And he's showing out, boy. I even did that. Now you ain't did nothing. I'm chilling. I thought you

were going to introduce you boy. Our little rock Arkansas native, University of Arkansas alum, seven-time NBA All-Star for your Atlanta Hawks. That's ISO Joe Johnson. Thanks, Joe. Appreciate that, bro. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button.

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Ticket for the Super Bowl Live show in San Francisco are on sale now. That link is pinned in the chat. The show will be Thursday night, February the 5th at the Earps Theater in San Francisco. So Bay Area, come out, show up, and show out. We want to thank our very special guest, National Champion, Indiana Hoosier, defensive end, Mikhail Kamara. and so thank you for joining us, bro. Congratulations on the outstanding season. 16 and 0.

Oh, Joe, we're off to, no, we're back tomorrow. Joe, thank you for joining us. We'll see you next week. Thank you all, man. Peace.