Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: NFL Teams call Shedeur arrogant, Jimmy Johnson retires and the Tank vs Roach fight is under review

Episode Date: March 4, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” react to NFL teams calling Shadeur arrogant and brash, Jimmy Johnson retiring after 31 years and the NYSAC reviewing the Tank vs Roach kneel down. A high schooler also pulls a Draymond & much more!05:30 - NFL team calls Shedeur Sanders brash 19:55 - Quinn Ewers23:45 - Sammy Sosa viral picture 28:49 - High schooler pulls Draymond move 30:51 - Kneeling review from Tank vs. Roach36:00 - Q&Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Can I tell you one quarterback who is brash? Especially coming out of college With the way he plays The way he carries himself By the name of Baker Mayfield He went number one too Yep Baker Mayfield was trash Cam

Huh? Cam Brash Huh? You know who else is brash? Johnny Manziel was brash You know? Now all of a sudden There's a problem with having confidence in yourself.

It's not brash, it's about having confidence. It's believing in yourself and believing in the work that you've already put in. The resume speaks for itself. Turn on the film. There's a reason he's talking the way he's talking. I believe I can come in to change the franchise. How is that brash for feeling that way? If you're not serious about changing your franchise or having a franchise changing quarterback,

I'm not the one for you. What's wrong with saying that when that's exactly what the teams are looking for? Someone with that type of confidence. Not soft spoken, you are a leader of men coming in as a rookie to change the franchise. You got to be confident.

You have to be. What are we talking about? Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, everything that he said, everything that this coach said, that he's brash and he's arrogant, can he play? Yeah. Can he play football? That's all that matters.

He's a football player. Yeah. He's not into politics because in politics you need to be likable. Yes. That's why people will vote for you. In this situation, can he play football? That's all that matters. Does he have any issues off the field?

Do you worry about having to have your phone on ring the entire night? Are you worried about, hey, if you see my player here, give me a call. Watch out for him. Is there any such thing that you need to worry about? His dad was brash. I'm confused. At the end of the day, can the guy play football?

Yeah. Can the guy, if you want a politician, if you want a, a, a, a, a,

a Cub Scout, someone that's going to be in the church. Okay, fine. I get that. I want a football player. I want him to have good character. I don't care about the brashness.

I don't care about all this stuff. I don't want him to get in trouble off the field, although I understand that young kids will make mistakes because I was young. So I'm not here to condemn for a first-time mistake. I just don't want to see a repeat offender. That's what I get upset about, repeat offenders. But I don't want to see a repeat offender. That's what gets, that's what I get upset about, repeat offenders.

Right. But I don't have no problem with Shador. I don't have no problem with any guy. If that's what we're talking about, that's what we're about here. Now, you have to understand,

a lot of times, Ocho, we brag because we had to, hey, a lot of times we were playing against people that were bigger than us, older than us, and we did something good. We had to let hey, a lot of times we were playing against people that were bigger than us, older than us, and we did something good. We had to let them know.

Every time. That's how we grew up. Every time. Every time. But listen, I understand, obviously, especially at the quarterback position,

they want you to be and conduct yourself a certain way. They want you to be Tom Brady's, the Peyton Manning's, the Drew Brees's. They want to lump everybody in the same category. You have to be a robot. You have to be politically correct. You have to know how to talk.

You have to know how to answer questions. You have to know how to keep things in house. You have to know how to fall on the sword. When things don't go well, you put the blame on yourself. No, it's me. It all starts with me offensively. I have to play better. You know, when you win, you give credit to everybody.

When you lose, you take the blame. That's the part about being a quarterback. That's the ownership that one has to have. Oh, Joe, this is what Jacinda Anderson said in Paragraph. According to league sources, said quarterback coach seemed to have an issue with the culture of athletes who have broad

fame and financial success before entering the NFL and their opinions appears to have to have them a problem with certain athletes. I'll leave it at that. This is how the pre-draft evaluation can get jacked because the evaluators don't seemingly possess the discernment to detect intangible traits that are connected to the will and drive to win

without being a stat or delineate it in an analytic report. I mean, if you're not familiar with said culture, see, somebody from a different culture, somebody from the Asian culture or the Jewish culture, I couldn't, but I know my culture. I know how we talk. Yeah. That man, think about it.

And I've always said that you heard me say this numerous times, Chad. What I respect so much about guys that parents that had money, his dad is tired. He said, no, I want your money. I want to do it myself. Peyton Manning, parents have money. He said, no, I want to do this myself.

Bronnie James' dad is LeBron James. He said, nah, dad. Let me put the time in. I got it. That says something. Because a lot of times we see people, kids of famous or well-to-do, they don't have that kind of drive. It takes a special type of person to go up,

live in an ivory tower with mint slippers and silk pajamas and say hey I want to get it out the mud like my dad or like my mom did everybody ain't wired like that yeah push your door and his dad did everything he put him in the right situation

had great coaches had a cultivated relationship with Tom. Tom would talk to your door, probably check them out on film, probably work with him. What's wrong with that? Wouldn't we, if every parent could be in a position to make sure their kid got the best, the best teachers, the best coaches, the best physios,

would we or would he or she not do that for their child? Absolutely. That's the whole point. That's the whole point in being a parent, being a father, being a mother. That's what you want to do. I'm confused. Oh, it goes without saying. But just for the sake of argument,

you have the other side that creates stuff like this. They don't care. Oh, he's not conducting himself the way we feel he should. Well, that's your kid. You didn't raise it. I love it. That's all that matters. I don't think there'll be a situation that he's going to get in trouble.

He seemed very level-headed to me. Yeah. I know he's going to be level-headed because I know his dad. I know his dad extremely well. And his dad jokes around, but they know he no nonsense. They know he no nonsense. That's when it's time for business. When it's time for business and perfecting your craft and getting better at your craft, putting in the work, the homework, the studying, the training.

Man, come on now. How many times have you heard time say, I'm two things. I'm coaching dad, but I'm dad first. Make no mistake about that. Right. His kids are very, very out of the, of the utmost importance to it.

Yes, sir. He's always been this way. Y'all think he's, this is time. This is who he is. Like he behaves a little different when he on the phone with me, but he,

I don't get it, but you know what? Hey, I guess I, I don't get it, but you know what? Hey, I guess I, I, I, I, uh,

um, Bucky Brooks responded. Thanks for sharing. Every year we watch high profile quarterbacks deal with the nonsense. No one expects your door standards to be perfect fit for every coach and organization, but the unnecessary character attacks by NFL personnel and some media members

with NFL backgrounds is garbage. These unflattering and unfounded remarks haunt prospects beyond the pre-draft process, including tainting the fan-based opinion before the players takes the field for a squad. It's stupid. It does.

Perception is a It's stupid. It does. Right. Right. Perception is a person's reality. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You ain't finna get away with that one. Hold on now. All right,

somebody just throw up. You know what I mean? You know, I travel with that, man. You travel with that I got all your stuff in here Perception Is a person's reality But perception is not always the truth

Are you in your bag? Wait a minute. Perception is not always the truth. Look, he's been dealing with this his whole life because guess what he's been? Deion Sanders' son. He's been dealing with this his whole life. Yeah.

He's going to deal with it for the rest of his life. No matter what occupation that precedes him. Right. For the longest time, and I still get it, I'm Sterling Sharpe's little brother. Yeah. Hey, Sterling. I said, bro, you loud and wrong.

But you're close. You with that boy now. Yeah. I just, hey, when they call me Sterling, I just, yeah,

yeah. You play for Green Bay. No, I play for Denver. Oh yeah, that's right. You the one that played with Farm. No,

I play with Elway. But okay, but go ahead. Keep it going. Hey, they, they, they,

they use the mistake you for Sterling. They still do, which you be used to they still do i like bro you know you know it's funny and guess what they tell me man y'all don't look nothing alike i say you're my brother not my dad hey what the hell you know you know people people today still and most of the time as women most of the time as women is very funny obviously they're fans of fans of me and they confuse me and teo all the time and i i mean sometimes they miss i'm not sure how you mistake me for t.o t was about two inches taller and about he got about 40 40 pounds on me you know he's six three about 230 like uh i mean i'm i'm confused now you know i'm i'm one good looking

brother i'm one good looking brother now i'm not saying my brother from another mother is ugly or nothing, but he don't look like this. So I'm not sure how you can choose the two. Now, my sister and I, we look alike. You look at my sister and you tell, okay, they brother and sister. My brother looks just like my mom. Me and my sister look like my dad. But it's okay.

But I understood that growing up on you imagine i got a brother that's three years older so he's a i'm a freshman he's a senior he's good at everything yes naturally bro you ain't gonna be like your brother you can't run run your brother i'm like that okay that ain't no motivation though you know hearing that ain't no motivation oh let me know hearing that ain't nothing but motivation let me tell you something what you think you're doing had to deal with being at jackson state you ain't gonna be you can't do that well maybe you can do that at the at the hbcu level but you can't do it at wii so he goes to colorado you know he gets done there what do you say you still

hearing all the troops and theurms and all the negativity. Now, draft process. You're showing your confidence based on the work that you've been putting in for who knows how long. Now they're telling you to change because they don't like the way you conduct yourself because you believe in yourself. You have confidence. We talked about Travis Hunter and his comparison to playing both ways in the NFL

compared to Shea Ohtani. What are we talking about? It's okay. That's the confidence. That's what you need to be great at whatever it is you do. It doesn't even have to be sports. It doesn't have to be football. But the kind of confidence that Shatour has, the kind

of confidence that Travis Hunter has, it's okay to be like that. Because that type of confidence is what had driven them, the kind of confidence that Travis Hunter has, it's okay to be like that. Because that type of confidence is what had driven them to the point where they are in life. Mm-hmm. Because guess what? So he went to HBCU, he lit it up. Oh, he should. He had an HBCU.

He go to Colorado, he lights it up. Oh, we conference. You see? I can't wait. He lights it up. A weak conference. You see? I can't win. I can't win. How does he win? How does he win, Ocho? He goes to an HBCU, does what he does.

You say the level of competition. Now he goes to a D1. And now you say, well, the conference was weak. Now, when he gets to the NFL, I wonder what's going to be the excuse then when he comes in and actually changes the franchise around same thing with cam war cam was a little different cam was a pro to the game and and the way he can conduct conducts himself it's a little different everybody's personality is different yes like personalities if they're not they're not all won't be the same no some are some are yeah i wasn't quiet it's you but who you're telling so don't expect me to

be td listen i wasn't i wasn't quiet i'm joking i'm talking and walking yep but i'm talking and walking yes quinn ewers says he is the best quarterback in the draft over Camish Ador. I think I'm the best in the class and the most ready for the NFL because of what I've been through. I think I'm the most ready for the situations that occur in the NFL, injuries, playing through tough injuries, having a big name behind you, continue to play through that amount of pressure, continue to be confident after being benched. It's hard to do. I matured a lot. And then all

the injuries I had to deal with and come back from, I wouldn't trade it. It's the reality of the position. Stuff's going to go wrong. And I have a plan of attack for pretty much any situation that can arise. I like it. You got to be, see, there we go. Yeah. Confidence again. He's spewing it in a different light. He's spewing the same type of confidence and brashness that they're talking about, that Shadur did, but in a different way. He just spin it in a different way. Yep. Using his history, his past experience on telling you why he's available

as the best player ahead of the two that might be in front of him. That's very brash. Why are you telling us that? Same thing. The delivery is just different. Every player in the draft believed they're the best player in the draft. He did go through a lot. He went to Ohio State, couldn't get on the field.

He leaves and go to Texas. He came with much fanfare, got booed, they wanted Arch. Yeah, he had to play through injuries. Yeah, he's gone through a lot. Now, you have to. I mean, you have to be resilient. You have to be able to compartmentalize. They're going to love you one week, hate you the next.

But you have to have a strong belief in yourself, Ocho. That's the number one thing. Never let them take your confidence. Even all the boos, even if you get benched, you made it this far. You made it this far to give up, to quit, because now you have a little bit more adversity than you've ever gone through. Listen, it takes a toll on your mental, too. It takes a toll on your mental when you get benchmarked.

Oh, yeah, for sure. At the quarterback position? Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche

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Jimmy said the most fun I've ever had in my career, that's counting Super Bowls and national championships, was at Fox Sports. But I've made an extremely difficult decision, and I've been thinking about it for the last four or five years, and I've decided to retire from Fox. I'm going to miss it. I'm going to miss all the guys.

I'll see them occasionally. It's been a great run starting 31 years ago. Who do you see replacing Jimmy on Fox NFL coverage? Probably Gronk. That's probably why they had Gronk sitting up there I just you want that job nah I wanna do I'm gonna do as many things

as possible I'm not sure if I can do it to be in two places I can imagine first take inside NFL Fox Nightcap

huh but uh probably you have to understand normally networks like that they're not gonna let you cross do it okay don't worry about it never mind don't worry about it i'm gonna stay i'm gonna stay on the side because i enjoy let me tell you what let me tell you something i enjoy i have no problem flying to new york every sunday night you know joining you and steven A on Mondays and Tuesdays.

Now, the more comfortable I get in that setting, which I felt okay today, a little shaky. I'm like, I gotta be honest because we family. I can talk to you like that.

It's new for me to lie inside in the field. There was a certain level of comfort I had there. It's a different ball. It's a totally different ball game. So, I got in rhythm,

you know, as we got towards the middle and the back end of the show. But I need to hit the ground running like like you and him. I need y'all on y'all to that. Soon as we out the gate, y'all hit the ground running. I say, God damn.

Now I got to catch up. I got to catch up. Now I'm going to get better as time goes on. But man, listen, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed that a lot. I enjoyed it a lot. Now, I thank you again. You hear me?

I've been begging for a long time. I thank you. I'm like, you ain't going to be able to get rid of me, bro. We'll be ready. I'm going to take me about eight weeks off whoa whoa whoa whoa so is it going to be nightcap just me by myself

no it's going to be first date you by yourself that's fine that's fine I ain't going to take that kind of time off consecutive with nightcap but you know, maybe a week

have a guess. You want to guess then when you take off, I have a guess something like that. No, I'm not taking off eight straight weeks. I like that.

Oh, Joe, a fan posted a picture of Sep with Sammy Sosa this weekend and it's gone viral. Huh? It really gone viral. Yeah, Sammy.

Yeah. Oh, you're trying to say which one sammy no wait sammy got on cubs outfit cubs oh yeah no they say uh they say sammy uh he black again yeah i i saw that earlier i thought somebody played around and photoshopped the picture because how do you go from bleaching your skin to being black again? Yeah. Man, Sammy look like them look like the Williams brother, the white chick. Yeah, Sammy darker. Whatever.

I think you, listen, once you start bleaching yourself, doesn't your normal pigmentation come back on its own? None of you bleach it too much. It was probably on that Ambi, that Ultra, that Esoterica. You don't remember them bleaching creams. They used to be bleaching creams. Hey, anybody my age or older know about them bleaching creams? There was Ultra, there was Ambi, there was Noxzema, and there was Esoterica. Anybody know about them bleaching creams? There was Ultra, there was Ambi, there was Noxzema,

and there was Esoterica. Anybody know about them? I didn't know all this stuff. You know. You know. Say what you used to bleach, huh? Huh? You used to bleach.

I mean, our last kid was a prototype, Ocho. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay. Nah, I've been black my whole life, even when it wasn't popular. Back in the 80s? Because, you know, back then it wasn't popular at all, Ocho. It wasn't popular until, like, the 90s when Michael Jordan hit. Wesley Snipes hit.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, you know, you had the DeBarge brothers you had L and Chico DeBarge you had Al B. Shore you had all them brothers with the good hair and skin yeah

so nah I've been black by popular man since 68 same since 72 glad to have you back Sammy and Ohio school basketball players pull the Draymond

watch the video Ocho uh oh that wasn't no accident no hell no Oh, gobble. That wasn't no accident. No, hell no. That wasn't no accident. Now, what was the point of doing that? A buddy who had been bringing the ball up must have been giving him that work.

Huh? He did it in the playoffs. The old boy must have been cooking him. That's what I just said. That's the only time they try to slow you down or do something egregious that had nothing to do with the game. It had nothing to do

with playing defense. You know? I wonder if they threw Buddy out after that. Or you just get a flavor. Nah, hell, they probably threw him out of the game.

Do we know what happened? You know, they ain't got no instant replay. I mean, he folded up like a lawn chair. Quick. Listen, any time you hit...

Oh, you get it. It don't take much. He's going down. Every time. They call it an intentional foul. He wasn't ejected. Or a flagrant foul. I mean, they doing too much.

We'd have to, Ojo, we'd have to get him back. But it's hard to do that in the game of basketball. The only thing you can do is set a screen. That's it. And I'm talking about

No, you set a screen for him and then run it to that elbow You can't put your elbow up on the screen Your hand got to be by your side No it don't I tell you get it back See I just got it back

I ain't say it was going to be a legal screen Run him out of the seat right there That thing nice and sharp And hit him right there on the side of the head We ain. That thing nice and sharp, too. And hit him right there on the side of the head. We ain't looking, too. Open him up like a ripe melon. Ocho.

New York Sports Athletic Commission is ruling the Tank versus Roach kneel down. The draw decision could be overturned. The New York State Athletic Commission is reviewing the matter involving Saturday's match between Lamont Roach and Javante Davis. During the round in question, following the commission's request for a replay video,

there was a technical issue preventing the commission from receiving it within the allotted time for the review. Would you be okay receiving it within the allotted time for the review. Right. Would you be okay if they overturned the decision? No, I wouldn't. It's a draw.

It came out a draw. Regardless of how we feel about the fight, the outcome is the outcome. You would be okay if they overturned it? No, I wouldn't be. I wouldn't be. Don't overturn anything. Don't overturn anything. So you would be against it if they were to overturn it?

Yeah, I would be because I want to see the rematch. I want to see the rematch. I want to stay a draw despite them where it should have been a knockdown with a knee. Now, I think if they got it right the first time, if they got it right the first time, I think Lamar Roach wins on the scorecard because they ruled that as a knockdown. But since they didn't, I don't want you going back and reversing the decision

after the draw has already been made. Let's set everything up for the rematch. I'm good. I like that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That'm good. I like that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was a good fight, man. That was a good fight.

Man, Lord have mercy. Ocho, Granny says don't come back over unless you bring him back her containers. My grandma said don't bother coming over if you don't bring back her containers. Granny don't play by that Tupperware now. You talking about Tupperware? Yeah. Somebody took my Tupperware and just don't want to take their time. It just...

Oh, they didn't bring your Tupperware back? They did after a couple of months. Oh, but hey, listen, my grandma... You know I got it. Yeah, I know you got it, but I want it. What, I'm going to put my food in my hands? So you want me to throw my food like this and put my hands in the freezer? My grandma ain't played

by her Tupperware, boy. She ain't played by it. And she got to use it to take her lunch to work, man. And please. Man, we just put, we ain't have no Tupperware like that, man. We put aluminum foil on top of everything. We ain't have no lids.

Maybe y'all ain't on. Maybe y'all did. We ain't have no lids in the 70s and 80s. Food just be all out or you put aluminum foil over the top of it. I bet y'all. I bet you didn't keep your grease in the coffee bean, the coffee can.

Yeah, that Maxwell put it right on the stove. Come on now. We done lived the coffee bean, the coffee can. That Maxwell put it right on the stove. Come on now. We done lived the same life. Come on now. Yeah. Hey, like I said, I ain't done nothing about no Tupperware. We ain't have no Tupperware. I mean, we had, you know,

our drinking glass was a great jelly jar, mayonnaise jar, you done took the hot water and scraped and scraped the thing off the side of it you ain't buy no drinking glasses

same same yeah I remember those days man I like I said I ain't know nothing about this until I got the

till I was in the NFL I ain't know nothing about no Tupperware I heard people mention it but we didn't know nothing about no Tupperware. I heard people mention it, but we didn't have that. Like I said,

my grandma put aluminum for, Hey, cover that dish boy. Aluminum for cover it up. Hey, I'm just thinking about breakfast, man. Back in them days.

I don't know if you know about Quaker Oats. Listen, I remember my granddaddy, man, either I asked for two things for breakfast. I ate that Quake Oats oatmeal or cream of wheat. I don't know if you remember cream of wheat. And he would use evaporated milk that come in the white cans.

Yeah, I know. Yeah. Oh. I didn't know you weren't supposed to drink that milk. I didn't know you weren't supposed to drink it. I didn't know that you spoke. It blends. You make it.

You make cakes and stuff with that. I didn't know you weren't supposed to drink it. I didn't know that you smoked it. It blends. You make cakes and stuff with that. I didn't know you weren't supposed to drink it. But me and my brothers, we were like, man, why every time we drink this milk, our stomach be toiled? It's too damn thick. I don't know what was in there. That's all we had. Hey, we get some water in that canned milk.

Hey, boy, drink some of that canned milk. Okay. Put a little water in there yeah hey now and uh

it had to be the milk had to be really spoiled I mean it almost had to be clabbered you know a clabber is like it's coagulated if it was like that

we wouldn't drink it but hey if it's just a little spell oh you got to go into cereal you got to go on up in here.

Hey, my girl, you be okay, boy. Yeah. Thank you. But, yeah, my girl might wouldn't. Hey, you going to be toting the dish out there with aluminum foil over. You won't get no Tupperware. So, you were good. Now it's time for our final segment

of the evening. It's time for Q&A. Thanks, Bram. We're going to time. Marley Spivey, JB did guard Luka in the finals, but the Mavs put their worst defender on him, Lukaca on the other end of

the court that's not giving the best player on their own your own team jt all the way okay oh bring that to me one more time she said uh jb did guard luca in the finals but the mavs put their worst defender on him luca on the other end of the court that's not giving the best player on your own team jt all the way he said yes jb guarded luca but luca in turn guarded jb so So JB had a weaker defender guarding him. Okay. I like that. I will. I like that.

Now that's just one series. Right. Well, it's just one series. Now we talk about the complete series, JB looked like that guy. Not just that one scenario she's talking about. Yeah, yeah. JB, yeah. Look like that,

the entirety of that playoff series in general, in its totality. Isaiah Lancaster, what's good? Ogunocho, two questions. What's the greatest Super Bowl run in league history?

And what are your top five cities with the best food? I mean, I... The best Super Bowl run. Wow. I mean, you got to take somebody with a wild card. I mean, they've been pretty good. I mean, we were the wild card

team. Somebody went 9-8. I can't remember what year it was. Somebody went 9-8. They were a wild card and won the Super Bowl. Maybe Eli and them. I think Eli and them was about to be 9-8. I can't remember what year it was. Somebody went 9-8. They were a wild card and won the Super Bowl. Maybe Eli Neal. I think Eli Neal was about to be 9-7. The Broncos lost to the Rocks. I mean, they won. They could have happened to the Rocks.

The side of the Giants. The Black Steelers. You know, very good. And the Broncos. And the 1980 Raiders yeah that's tough I'm gonna say I'm biased

I'm saying ours because we beat the defending champs at the end of our Super Bowl run right we were 12 and 4 so we beat a 13 and 3 team Right. We were 12-4. So we beat a 13-3 team. What was the Steelers?

Oh, the Steelers. I think the Steelers was 12-4 too. But they won, you know what I'm saying, Ocho? They won their division. Right. So obviously they got home field. That advantage, yeah. Yeah. What are your top five cities with the best food, Ocho? Obviously, they got home field. That advantage, yeah. Yeah.

What are your top five cities with the best food, Ocho? I'm not a foodie like that, so I don't really go out and eat. I got you. Okay, what you got? New Orleans first. Okay. But nobody said we can argue. Chicago. Miami, because it's a melting pot

it's a melting pot of every culture and every ethnicity they have restaurants there in their own communities LA you can get a little bit of everything in LA

and five to round things out I said Chicago. I said New Orleans. You don't like New York? I'm going to go with New York. I'm going to go with New York. New York has some really, really, really good gems. You would have to really know

and understand the city and know where to go, especially if you're local and know where to hit all the spots. But those five places, especially New Orleans, we talk about food? Yeah. Ain't no food like that.

Man. Give me Memphis. I'm going to take Memphis, Houston, New York, Chicago. I'll give you New Orleans. I don't really care.

I ain't into shellfish like that, and they put a lot of crab and stuff in it and all that, but I can see a lot of people say New Orleans, but I'm going to go. Kevin, you're up. I'll bet you the Cavs go further in the playoff than the Lakers. Whoever wins, get the $5,200 from Ocho. Way to go out on a limb, Kev.

Every time I think you forgot about that $5,200, somebody in the chat, bring it up. Because I didn't know you were old, Pook. Yeah, I'm not old. But listen, as long as I owe you, you know what? You talked about you saving, right? So I it up. Because they know you old, Pook. Yeah, I'm not old, but listen, as long as I owe you, you know what? You talked about you saving, right? So I'm saving. I'm helping you save. I'm going to save that money for you.

My money drawing interest in your pocket. Listen, whatever the interest is, you let me know and I'm going to give it to you. No, give me my money and let me draw interest on it. That's what I need. Dude said, Ocho had a smile on his face seeing you. I had a smile on my face seeing you on first take.

Congrats. How do you think Ocho did today on first take? He did well. He was there for the entire show. So that lets you know he wasn't just there for football segments. He stayed through the entirety of the show. Matter of fact, my weakest part of my game, especially when it comes to

conversing and talking sports, basketball. I'm trying to get to the point like you and Stephen A can get. Boy, listen, y'all get to going and get to talking and diving deep. I'm like, man, what the heck? What?

When I can do that, I can converse in soccer. I can converse? But when I can do that, because listen, I can reverse in soccer. I can reverse in football. I can talk baseball. I can talk hockey. But if I can get to the point where I can talk basketball the way you can,

the way Stephen A. can, or Perk, or George Sedano, or Tim Legger, man, listen, but y'all ain't gonna be able to pull me off TV. That a mess, man. Dr. Frank L. Bellarmine, Ocho pulled up at first take looking like he was about to debate sports,

signed a max contract and close on a mortgage all before lunch. Happy to see y'all together on first take. Thanks, Doc. Appreciate the support. I clean up well now. I'm a representation of Nightcap, so I got to be sharp. You cleaned up now. I got to be

sharp. Sir Kate said, what's up, guys? Two questions. Ocho, how can the Bengals this offseason change up the slow start so they can get back into the title picture, and who should my Panthers look for the draft to help Bryce Young and the team? A wide receiver?

Mm-hmm. An offensive lineman? Go ahead, Ocho. What do you think the Bengals can do? I mean, listen, out the gate, just be a little bit more aggressive. Out the gate, be aggressive. Throw everything in the kitchen, sing at whoever it is we're playing. There's no reason we should have

lost that game to New England. There's no disrespect to the Patriots. I think they, what, maybe won, what, four games all season long? Something like that? You know, there's no reason why

we should come out the gate slow. And not only did we do it last year, we did it the year before that. And the year before that. You know, even the year when we had the Super Bowl run,

we lost the first two of the season. We got the final way to start fast. We're not playing behind the eight ball having to rely on teams to lose

on the back half of the season. Yes. Hope so-and-so lose because they give us a chance to squeeze in. No, take care of your business early in the season.

You know, on the back end, you don't have to worry about nobody else. Yeah. Everything is in your control. I like control of my own destiny. Yes, sir.

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Cameron Norwood Jr. said, oh, my question is, would you or Ocho be a guest star on a sitcom like Neighborhood or Papa's House? Yeah. I like it. I like it.

Listen, no, I'm a regular on sitcoms, you know, making guest appearances. For those that don't know in the chat, you know, I was on a game. I was on a game. I did Shark was on a game i did shark nandu um god we'll see um it's another three more shows i did and i can't remember but it's something about a young when you do tv like that there's a saying it's called hurry up and wait uncle you be there all day you do yeah you be there all day that's that's the only thing you don't have to tell me anything I know you've been on commercial shoots

for 30 seconds you're out there 12 hours yeah J.W. Akron what's up disturbing ever flex on you for snitching on him no cause guess what I would tell again snitching is not a one time thing for me No, because guess what? I would tell again. I mean, submission is not a one-time thing for me.

I was good. I did it for a number of years. And I didn't even have to go in witness protection. I was walking around there broad daylight. Do what I tell again. I'll do it. What? Hey, why why you laughing?

They already know. Hey, Tansy, great job, Nightcap. How did you handle leaving CBS Sports? And Ocho, how did you handle going from the Patriots, facing an adversity and a new system? Look, I appreciated the opportunity that CBS gave me Sean McManus and Tony Batiti Sean McManus

just retired from CBS after 25 years Tony Batiti he runs the Big Ten now he was my first boss

I went in sat down talked to him had a great call with him had a great talk with him they had a great talk with him. They basically offered me the job on the spot. To this day, every time I see Tony Petitti, nothing but love. He ended up leaving, going to the MLB network, and so Sean was there.

Look, they wanted to go. Tony Gonzalez was a fresh face. He was a bigger name. And they wanted to move in a different direction. I appreciate the opportunity they gave me for 10 years. Although I knew I had a lot more knowledge than just football knowledge. I needed something to like what they were doing on first tape. But they had all the slots.

So I had to do my own thing for two years. And when Skip left, I went on, I filled in for Stephen A for a week, filled in, and the rest of that, they say history. I don't begrudge leaving any place because you gave me an opportunity. I got 10 years out of that.

10 years. It kept me close to the game of football. It allowed me to talk about the game of football. I met one of my best friends, Fred Shimizu, camera three. You heard me talk about him the of football. It allowed me to talk about the game of football. I met one of my best friends, Fred Shimizu, camera three. You heard me talk about him the other day. Look, I got along with everybody. Tony, everybody. Greg

was great to me. Boom. PK, Pat Kerwin. We got along great. Coach Cower, Danny. It was just time to move on. I don't begrudge it. I love that.

I love my time. J.B., I still stay in touch with some of the guys, mainly me and J.B. Me and Freddie, we talk occasionally, not like we used to. But, nah, it was a great opportunity. And you learn, but yo, man, after a while, you can't get mad at every time,

you know, it's time for you to move on. Right. Keep your head high. I leave the same way I came in there. I came in there a little prideful. I came in there with my head high with dignity. I'm gonna go out the same way. Mm-hmm.

Had got seven years, seven years at Fox. Appreciate the opportunity. Man, the friends, look, it was different because when you go somewhere every day, Ocho, like I did at Fox, you know, the wardrobe, Autumn and Tracy, you get to know them on a first-name basis. You see them all the time. And when you went, Grit grid and jumpsuit and all those guys

and the stage manager with johnny and karen and oh man it was great uh wardrobe they asking me uh you know what do i do what i need man i wouldn't trade i wouldn't trade those experiences for anything because it helped me get better at what i do currently night Nightcap, club, shea, shea, going on first take. It's different. It's not as debate. It's not as much one-on-one that I was used to at first, undisputed. But, man, all those experiences helped me to get right here. How was your experience at the Patriots?

I mean, it was awesome. It was awesome. The transition, obviously, coming from Cincinnati, seeing the way one organization is run and going to New England and understanding what the Patriot way was and being able to see and not have a great understanding,

okay, this is the way they run things. You know, it's very, very militant, very militant style. I've never been part of the Navy SEALs or the Marines, but if I had to take a guess on what it's like being there, it was something like being part of the Patriots. Everybody's very disciplined.

Everybody's expendable. Key word. Everybody's expendable, except 12. And everybody is held accountable as well. Everybody's on the same playing field. No special treatment for nobody. Obviously, I got there a little late. I wish I had been there a little earlier

so I get a better grasp of the offense. A lot of people say, well, you didn't know the play. Listen, from team to team, nothing changes from an offensive perspective outside of the verbiage and the way the players are called. That's all. Nothing different. So what you do want,

and what I was hoping I could do, was pick it up fast enough where I could play fast without thinking. Then you would get those that you saw in Cincinnati. So you can't get that with so many other weapons around me and me trying to catch up to everybody else in the offense where, okay, we got to go. We got to go. And that's what happened in that one year.

It was a great fit for me as a predominantly outside receiver. That offense really didn't suit me well, even though Tom Brady was my quarterback, for the simple fact that my last name is Alt. No, he liked to throw inside the numbers. That's why you see Edelman, Amendola, you see Wes Welker. Those were the guys that kind of led the tight ends. Always. And that's one of the few

offenses in the NFL where the where the offense is run from the inside out which is completely different from any other team most teams obviously

you know your first reads or your outside guys and you work your way in when it comes to New England inside inside out Edelman

Welker you had Gronk you had Aaron Hernandez. Amendola? You remember you had Troy Brown? Yes, yes. The offense has always been like that. I enjoyed my time there.

I loved it despite me not being a part of it from a productive standpoint. I still enjoyed it. I really did. Big Boy Toys, Chad is a low-key genius. productive standpoint, I still enjoy it. I really did. I really did. Big boy toys. Chad is a low-key genius. I think we need to start listening to him more.

I need better context on that, on why he thinks I'm a genius. You know? I don't. I want to know. I want to know why he thinks that. I don't need no context yeah i appreciate that i appreciate that go ahead and tell them why you think i'm a genius yeah kevin brooks said coach prime said don't allow my confidence to to offend your insecurities

also uh the twins ryan and rodley are now hitting homers in softball. Ryan qualified to compete at the Texas High School State Powerlifting meet. I'm supposed to know these? Kevin Brooks. Nah. I don't know if I know. Kev, I'm supposed to know you, bro?

Well, I know you're not, Kev. What they do, baby? Tell them, boy, I said congratulations. You know it, don't you? No, I do not, though. Oh. No, we don't do that. Well, I'm thinking if they're hitting homers in softball, they're girls.

They're women. The twins? Yeah. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah. Hey, I got a question. Yeah. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah. Hey, I got a question. Oh,

okay. Can you say that, that quote you just said from prime that you just read off? He said, Oh, don't allow my confidence to offend your insecurities. When people always say he's so humble or you need to be humble, that quote fits very well with that. Yes.

That quote fits very well with that because you're telling me you want me to be humble. You want me to dim my light. Stop being who I am. So you can shine. Yeah. So why do you want me to dim my light? Why do you want me to be humble? Does it offend you?

Does it make you uncomfortable? Right. Come on, man. You get that a lot, Ocho. You get that a lot, Ocho, because a lot of times people look at people that have money. Man, I wouldn't have bought that. I don't know why he bought that. Right.

So if he doesn't buy it, does that make you feel better about yourself? Because you couldn't buy it? Because, see, that's what you run into, Ocho. Right. What I buy, but I'm not going to say. If that's your money, somebody works hard for the money. Who am I to tell what they should or shouldn't do? Right.

There are a lot, Ocho, coming from where we came from. Look at the stuff. I never thought I would spend $20,000, $30,000, $50,000, $100,000 for a watch. What? Or $100,000, $200,000 for a car. It's easy to say when you don't

have it what you wouldn't do. But when you have it, what you wouldn't do. But when you have it, I'm just confused. So I don't do something to make you feel better about you. So if time doesn't be who he is, does that make you feel better about yourself? Does that give you more confidence?

Right. Or does it mask your insecurity that you possessed all along? I hate when people use that word, be humble. Child, please. Yeah, or you need to be humble. Ocho,

that concludes this episode. Yeah, oh, you need to be humbled. Ocho, that concludes this episode. Nice, nice look. Oh, I got to do some time to get me some sleep tonight. Me too, me too, me too, me too. I got to be up early. I know, this is when the show started last night, yeah. We just concluded this episode of Nightcap brought to you by Boost Mobile. Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or BoostMobile.com to join their nationwide 5G network today.

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