Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: NFL Week 2 Catchup

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson recap everything that went down in Week 2 of the NFL season.   Some of the biggest stories include Miami Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa going down with a co...ncussion, the Carolina Panthers deciding to bench Bryce Young, the New Orleans Saints blowing out the Dallas Cowboys and much more!03:10 - Shannon goes off on Kyler Murray11:36 - Lil Wayne gets snubbed21:46 - Tua gets hurts26:25 - 49ers beat Jets32:00 - Lions win in OT36:00 - Tyreek gets detained53:42 - Steelers beat Falcons(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:40 It's me. Did he really say that? Maybe, maybe Do you think they missed? As a quarterback, obviously, you're going through your reads. Sometimes the ball goes to him. That's not my job. I have a. I have a I have a sense and a feel for guys when they don't get the ball and when they're getting the ball. Hey, man, hold on there. If I'm Kyler Murray, Kyler, I know you're going to see this. When you come out the huddle, what number Marvin Harrison, I mean, Marvin Harrison Jr.
Starting point is 00:04:20 18, isn't it? Kyler Murray, when you come out the huddle and you're making your points with the line, point out the mic, check the coverage. Whatever side 18 go to, look at the DB. If it's one-on-one, throw it to him. Don't worry about no read. He is the read. He's the read.
Starting point is 00:04:44 What you talk about? It's stuff like this that makes you annoyed. It's not my job. He is the read. He's the read. What you talk about? It's stuff like this that makes you annoyed. It's not my job. That is your job. Why you think they took it fourth overall, Kyler? I'll give you one. Go off script. You know what it is? That's over fucking coaching. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:05:00 That's over coaching. That's why he said that answer. They're over coaching him, forcing him to go through his reads when, hello, you got a special individual that was the fourth pick for a goddamn reason. You do that to a rookie. Ocho, ain't nobody overcoaching Kyler. Kyler on some bull jive.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Kyler been on some bull jive. But I ain't finna go there. This is not the time. This is about him not. You trying to win games. A rookie not. You try to win games. A rookie quarterback. You try to win games. You coach him.
Starting point is 00:05:28 This man has been to the Pro Bowl. And this man, wasn't he rookie of the year? Wasn't he rookie of the year? And you're going to talk about that's not your job. So tell me what your job is. I'd like to know. So you mean to tell me the guy's rookie of the year, the guy's a pro bowler, he's been to the pro bowl,
Starting point is 00:05:48 he's taken a team to the playoffs, but that's not his job. That explains, now you see why. Now you see why. All I'm going to say is now you see why. You know what? You know what's going to happen, though? Who the Cardinals play tomorrow? Who the Cardinals play, Ash?
Starting point is 00:06:12 I guarantee they feed him tomorrow. I guarantee they feature him tomorrow. They play the Rams. I bet that. Oh, shit. Damn. Hey, but even though still, even with them playing the Rams I guarantee you they feature Marvin Harrison and he has a welcome to the to the NFL day guarantee I guarantee you it's just
Starting point is 00:06:37 it's just the way it works it's just the way I'm not saying I know the script but after a day like that which to me is an embarrassment especially especially with the quote coming behind you, you're starting to quote it back saying something like, that's an embarrassment. They're going to feature Marvin Harrison Jr. tomorrow. I guarantee you. The wise thing would say, look, I got to understand that my playmakers and I got to do everything in my
Starting point is 00:06:59 power to make sure I get them involved early and often. What did Tom Brady say? Tom Brady said it's my job to get my playmakers the ball early. Who wants to go to the second quarter, the third quarter, before they get a target? That's what Tom said. Kyler Murray said that's not his job. Now, Chad, you see what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:07:21 You see the difference between mentality? You see how the'm talking about? You see the difference between mentality? You see how the great players think? And the other players looking to place the blame on somebody else. So in other words, what he's trying to do, Ocho, is up any blame that you might have placed on me, that's the coach's job. Now, listen to the other great quarterbacks. And when they talk, Peyton Manning, the Tom Brady's, the Mahomes, all those great quarterbacks, they go out of their way early to make sure their playmakers get involved early.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Kyler Murray said that's not his job. I mean, listen, I'm not. Kyler Murray is is media savvy. He's he's savvy enough to be able to answer that in a different way. It was upsetting for me because when Marvin Harrison Jr. debuted as an NFL player, it shouldn't look like that. It shouldn't
Starting point is 00:08:15 look nothing like that. Nothing like that. I know one thing. Tomorrow's going to be I guarantee you and I bet anybody in the chat I bet you a dollar tomorrow he gonna have a date Ocho, now you see why I was born when I was born
Starting point is 00:08:30 now you see the mentality is different the mentality is different man, look here guys I know y'all think I think y'all know look oh shit whatever none go ahead go ahead I'm good
Starting point is 00:08:54 I took a nap man I just it would bother me it would it bothers me some of these guys mentality it bothers me that winning is not of the utmost why the f am i here why am i putting my body through this why am i denying myself when i train i question myself every day i went to train i asked myself a couple of questions. Why am I doing this? When is this over?
Starting point is 00:09:26 What am I doing it for? How long is it going to last? And then I got to come and hear somebody talk about it's not his job? Guess what? Lord, have mercy. It bothers me, man. It really does.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Because all I care about is winning how do we get better you don't get better with players like kyler murray his mentality is not what it needs to be go listen to all the other great players look at and listen to elway look listen to marino listen to acheman listen to any great. Listen to Marino. Listen to Aikman. Listen to any great and they'll tell you, I got to get my playmaker involved early. They not saying it's not my job. You got the damn ball. It is your job. Touch it the most.
Starting point is 00:10:16 You touch it the most. But that's why I say overcoaching because when someone, a quarterback, throws out, I have to go through my reads. That's coaching. That's them being in his ear a little bit too much. Guess what? If I'm a quarterback, damn it, all of a
Starting point is 00:10:32 sudden, I can't read. Where 18 at? I don't even know the rest of the damn place. 18, get open. That's a veteran move, man. That's something me and Carson was doing in year five and six and seven and eight. That's a veteran move. I'm not sure if he has the leeway
Starting point is 00:10:47 to be able to go off like that. He done got one coach fired. He can get another one fired. It's easy to fire a coach than it is a quarterback. It's just the mindset of some of these guys. That's what it is, Ocho. That's all I'm
Starting point is 00:11:03 saying. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. I bet he's asking what his job is on card. I bet he know that. I bet he know that. I bet he know what his job is on that. I get best with he playing
Starting point is 00:11:20 partners. Ain't nobody gonna say, man, it ain't your job to protect the blind spot. It ain't your job to go in there and do that I bet they don't know how to tell him that he'll be fine he just gotta choose his words a little better that's all because I'm sure if
Starting point is 00:11:35 Marvin Harrison heard that too I know he was upset and he's not gonna say nothing he's not gonna say nothing oh yeah yeah he gonna be alright though he gonna be alright though He's not going to say nothing. He's not going to say nothing. He's the rookie. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's going to be all right, though.
Starting point is 00:11:48 He's going to be all right, though. I know tomorrow they're going to have a day. I know that. I guarantee you that. Lil Wayne responded to being snubbed for the Super Bowl halftime show. What's your take on it, Joe? I have a question. I got a question, huh?
Starting point is 00:12:04 I love Wayne. That's my dog, man. Yep. You know? Been in the studio with him back in the day. I got a question. I love Wayne. I'm a dog now. Yeah. You know, been in the studio with him back in the day. No name in a few songs. You're a studio partner? No, studio.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Nice to be in the studio. Okay, I'm just making good clarification. I understand where he's coming from. Super Bowl being held in your hometown. What better place for you to represent
Starting point is 00:12:26 for your people and the fans? And I thought to myself, how many years has the Super Bowl been in New Orleans? It's been in New Orleans more than any damn place. Right. So I'm curious. They had it in 2012. It was there in
Starting point is 00:12:43 when the Packers beat the Patriots. It was there when the Rams lost to the Patriots. It was there when the lights went out and the Ravens beat the 49ers. It was there in 77 when the Cowboys beat the Broncos. That's four times off the top of my head. I think it's been there about Okay, so I'm only asking. Why are you laughing? Ask me. Tell me. I will say
Starting point is 00:13:19 12, 10. It's been there 10 times. 12 10 it's been there 10 times I'm only asking obviously this is not the first time that it's been in New Orleans it's been there 10 times but Luane has never been hired or
Starting point is 00:13:42 asked to perform what makes a difference this year I'm'm just curious. So maybe you can answer better. Maybe the chat can answer better than me. I think because of what happened when it was in L.A. and when it was in L.A., they got Dre that had Snoop. And they paid homage to, you know. And so I'm sure Wayne was thinking like damn
Starting point is 00:14:06 Usher because he had a residency smoking I don't know if you got a chance to see Usher but that's I'm a real I'm a real he did it
Starting point is 00:14:23 so Weezy like well damn well, damn, hold on. L.A.? They got the hip-hop, you know, they got the, you know, Boom Boom, Dre. They had 50. They had M. They had D-O-double-G. And Mary J.? Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Vegas? Usher? I mean, what are they going to bring? Trot, Ruey, Newt Nance out there? You know, they're like, nah. So Wayne was like, okay. Hey, you know, Weezy F, baby. And, you know, New Orleans. And it didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:14:54 I get his frustration. I'm like you, Ochoa. I can see both sides because we've never, it's never been like, think about it. When it was in Atlanta, they had Maroon 5. Think about what, think about it. You had was in Atlanta, they had Maroon 5. Think about it. You had Timp. You had Luda.
Starting point is 00:15:08 You had Future. You had 2 Chainz. You had, what's the other group? Andre 3000, Big Boy. I don't care. I don't care. They loaded. You got Babyface.
Starting point is 00:15:23 You got Jermaine Dupri. You had Usher. You had Broher. You had... Bro! Yeah. Think about it. They have Maroon 5. Hey, hold on. Maroon 5
Starting point is 00:15:38 got some hits tonight. I'm not saying they don't. But you would think in Atlanta, you're like, damn, you ain't gonna play no homage to what they got? So I get it. But, you know, look,
Starting point is 00:15:54 I mean, I don't know. I can understand his frustration, but it's not like, okay, such and such as from, listen, we know Beyonce can't do it every year. And Taylor Swift and Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 00:16:13 That's who they won't. Let's be all the way. What? They won't take it. But Taylor's like, I'm big enough. I don't need that. I mean,
Starting point is 00:16:20 no, I mean, Beyonce didn't need it, but Beyonce did them. I did them a courtesy. Yeah. She did. Excuse me, she did them a courtesy because you don't get paid for it
Starting point is 00:16:30 and you come out your pocket. Yeah, yeah. Remember what I said? I mean, everyone's up in arms even though Lil Wayne came out and spoke about it. It still has to do a set. It has to do a set. I'm not sure if they have music together,
Starting point is 00:16:46 but Lil Wayne might make a surprise. That was one of the first things I said. He might make a surprise. You never know. You never know what Kendrick may do. I'm not sure. We don't want Taylor. You don't, but the NFL do.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Oh, yeah. I don't think they understand what she does for the eye visibility, the exposure. They want that different crowd of eyes. What was that number when she came out and kind of like support for
Starting point is 00:17:18 Kamala? How many people signed up to vote? It was crazy. I saw that. Like 800,000 people registered within 24 hours right okay man y'all better stop look y'all might not y'all might not like her but she's an earthquake 400 000 yeah she's an earthquake like i said beyonce can't perform every year Beyonce said I'm good as a matter of fact Beyonce was at 50 with a Coldplay
Starting point is 00:17:49 I think she did a set with Coldplay at Super Bowl 50 I was there I know she was in New Orleans because I was there like I've been to a couple of them you know obviously I was with CBS in Miami when Prince did it playing purple rain and it starts to
Starting point is 00:18:11 rain. We started. Yeah. And to see man, that little man can sing that little man. Lord, not only sing, but for that's what he is. Lord. Not only sing, perform. He's a performer.
Starting point is 00:18:26 That's what he is. He's a performer. Hold on. And then can play every goddamn instrument. Piano, the guitar. Oh, he. All of them. Real deal.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Oh, man. Prince is pretty amazing, man. When he had that group, you know, look, I understand the new power generation. But when he was with Wendy and Lisa, the Andre Simone. What you know about that, man? Come on now. Hey, Prince might be the only one to be able to wear heels and get all of them. Platform to get all the women. Catsuit.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Hair perm. Get all the women. Catsuit. Get all the women. Hey, boy. Boy. Good old catsuit. Good old catsuit. Oh, yeah. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Listen. Boy, listen. oh yeah oh boy listen boy listen damn yeah Michael was in Michael was in 93 I think when Michael performed at the Super Bowl I think Michael was in Pasadena isn't that where he performed at
Starting point is 00:19:44 because that was like the first Super Bowl I went to I think Michael was in Pasadena. Isn't that where he performed at? Because that was like the first Super Bowl I went to. I was a baby. It was 93. I didn't go to the game, but that was the first the NFL invited me, and I had stuff I did. Yeah, I get it. I mean, like I said, I think me, I'm kind of empathetic because I know Wayne. I know him personally.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Yeah. But it's tough. Like you want to perform in front of you, you know, in your city. And. Like I said, I hope. I hope that Kendrick will at least bring him out, let him do a couple of songs. The news of the night came with Tua suffering another concussion. Ocho, knowing his history, I don't know why he had already had the first down.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Why didn't he go down and slide? That's my thing. You know, Ocho, you probably played with a bum shoulder or a bum something. The last thing you want to do is get hit on it. So you're going to, hey, you ain't hit me on that shoulder. I'm going to turn the other shoulder and let you hit me on the shoulder that's good. But I'm not going to let you hit me on the shoulder. If I know, Ocho, I've had head trauma, like three or four of those,
Starting point is 00:21:08 I'm not taking it. I'm going to slide. That's what the protection is in for the quarterback. I mean, listen, what I did see is him trying to run for the first down, understanding he got the first down. I'm not sure if he was aware of already having the first down, but you already know how you're supposed to slide. You never slide head first.
Starting point is 00:21:22 As a quarterback, that's one of the first things you learn when you're scrambling, you come out the pocket, is how to slide correctly. Tua, you already know. You already know you've had three or four concussions. You missed, not last season, but the previous season due to concussions. So you should always be aware, not only of surroundings, but when, I'm talking about when enemies, not enemies,
Starting point is 00:21:43 but when you're in danger. And when you got to know when to go down, you have to know when to go down. So I think he didn't realize he was well past the first down and didn't, and didn't think DeMar Hamlin was going to close in, was going to close in that goddamn fast. And it was too late. It was too late. If anything, if anything, slide early, slide early and you always go feet first. That's even more of a problem. If he didn't know he had the first down considering you supposed to know you can see i mean most guys know that you can see that out of your peripheral because you
Starting point is 00:22:16 look at left to right to make sure there's no oncoming trade nobody's going to side swipe you okay i don't oh i got this first you know you know first. You know how he didn't know he had the first? Because he was diving head first. Because if you already got the first, there's no need to be going forward at all. Just give yourself up. Give yourself up. No, he was trying to set the tone, trying to fire the crowd up. Remember, you like guys to set the tone.
Starting point is 00:22:40 That was Lamar going out of bounds and seeing the safety coming on. Just give him a little shoulder, let him know. It's going to be a long night. Nah, I ain't finna give you no shoulder, not my throwing shoulder. Anyway, I give you the other shoulder, not the one I used to throw the football with Elcho. And I don't, I don't take this lightly. And I really hate saying this,
Starting point is 00:23:00 but two of them probably need to seriously consider sitting it down. If you notice the concussions are starting to look worse and worse. If you notice every time he has a head trauma, he gets rigor. He get what they call rigor mortis. It's a, hold on a doctor. This is what a doctor sent me when it happened. It's called the C-rebrick posturing, a rare abnormal body position that indicates severe brain damage or disruption of brain function.
Starting point is 00:23:26 It's deceit, dis, December, deceit, decerebrate rigidity or extensory posturing arms held straight out, rotated toward the center of the body, held parallel to the side leg. These are some of the symptoms legs extended and rigid toes pointed
Starting point is 00:23:43 downward, turn slightly inward hands flexed back arched or stiff wrists flexed away from the body fingers curled how many times have you seen him get that ocho i mean what three and it started and every time he gets it ocho it's not you know some people get it and they're a little bit like okay look he got his bed wrong but Ocho he going stiff with it Ocho he's getting stiff yeah I mean listen at this point I heard what you just said about him probably probably sitting it down and shutting it down uh you know you got to understand we we just I'm talking about we they just paid to him they just put they paid to a lot of money because he is the future of the franchise and the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:24:25 In order for them to contend, he has to be at the helm to do that. Now, in order to do that, he also has to be healthy and he has to protect himself. So at this point going forth, he was able to play all last season without this type of injury, without any mistakes. You know, when he does come back, and I'm sure he's going to come back, I'm not sure how long he's going to have to be in concussion protocol, but he has to take better care of his body, his head, and just make smarter decisions when he does scramble. Because you got to think, Tua is not known as a dual threat quarterback. It's not that many times he's going to be out there running around and taking off with the ball as opposed to a Josh Allen or, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:04 a Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson. So when he does scramble, he has to make the right decisions and protect himself and learn how to slide. The 49ers for me were the most impressive because I think the Jets defense is going to be really, really good. Now the offense, Hey, I think they'll get it going. Breeze Hall when he formed that ball early in the game, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:25:21 it kind of gave kind of took a lot, some of the steam out of it, but the 49ers, the way they can run the game, Ocho, it kind of gave, kind of took a lot, some of the steam out of it. But the 49ers, the way they can run the football, the way Purdy was throwing the ball, he had some drops in there too. He had some drops in there. IU dropped the touchdown right before the half. Remember when Jamar Chase, I hate to, remember Jamar Chase?
Starting point is 00:25:39 Yes. Went into the preseason and dropped ball after ball after ball after ball after ball, and then had a historic season once it came. I think IU probably has to get acclimated to the preseason and dropped ball after ball after ball after ball after ball, and then had a historic season once it came. I think Iyuka probably has to get acclimated to the ball. They're going against the top NFC team. They're going against the top NFC team. You take away some of those drops.
Starting point is 00:25:55 You take away some of those penalties. It's a different game. Now, the 49ers still might have won, but what I saw from the Jets tonight was promising. I agree with you, Ocho. That's not an easy offense to defend. And I know you're looking at, well, they ain't got no Christian McCaffrey. The one thing I can tell you about this offense, because I spent the majority of my career in this offense, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:26:18 and if you notice, could you tell Christian McCaffrey wasn't in the game? Christian McCaffrey sets it to another level. But if you look at the guys that would end that offense, TD, six-round draft pick. Orlando's Gary, six-round draft pick. Mike Anderson, third-round draft pick. Reuben Drones, a mid-round draft pick. Clinton Portis was a second-round draft pick.
Starting point is 00:26:36 So you don't need to have it. All you got to do is follow instructions. They're going to start it one way, and they go, hey, hit your head on the goalpost, son. And the wide receivers do a great job. IU blocking downfield. Debo blocking downfield. Jennings blocking downfield. Yeah, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I mean, Jeff's defense don't look like Jeff's defense that we saw last year, but I'm sure they will get it together. I don't know what happened to Sauce. I think Sauce subluxed his shoulder on one of those with Debo. I think he tried it. I think he hit I think it was Debo that
Starting point is 00:27:07 he got his shoulder. Yeah, you got to be careful. Yeah. And the thing is, when you play the 49ers, you got to out-physical them. Because that's one thing that Kyle Shanahan, he got from his dad. We're going to come out there and we're going to put hats on you. We're going to be physical. Now, if you beat us,
Starting point is 00:27:24 you are more physical. See, the thing is, a lot of times when people looked at the West Coast, they automatically assumed because the linemen was undersigned. Oh, they're a finesse team. That was your first mistake. Now, if you watch the game chat, if y'all listening,
Starting point is 00:27:39 if you watch the game tonight, you can see when they did play action, they ran the ball so well. When they did play action ball, Brock Purdy, not only were they wide open, but Brock Purdy was sitting back there with a cigar. So what I think the Jets need to do also to continue to complement that defense so you can get back to the top three defense that you were last year, we need to get brother Hassan Redick in the goddamn door. I would think we need to get brother Hassussar. Whatever you need to do.
Starting point is 00:28:06 You need all hands on deck. If you're serious about turning the franchise around, allowing it to be a winning culture, and actually competing in the goddamn AFC East with the Bills and the goddamn Dolphins. You know the guy's disgruntled. He wanted contract. It wasn't a change of scenery.
Starting point is 00:28:25 He wanted money. So you thought that, oh, he don't like being in Philly. We're going to bring him to New York, but we're not going to give him no money. Listen, you know what they probably did? You know how this business work.
Starting point is 00:28:41 I'm sure before they even discussed, before he even came, understanding that, listen, I want to be paid by the Eagles based on my production the past few years. The Eagles said, you know what? We're not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:28:52 We're going to let you go somewhere else. So I'm sure the Jets knew Brother Woody Johnson. I got that name right. Woody Johnson, right? I'm sure Mr. Johnson understood that Sam Reddick was agreeing to come there
Starting point is 00:29:02 because yeah, Woody do you do that? You understood that. This is the games they play. This is the business that they play. All they had to do was take the flat, and they're going to get a first down, and they're going to keep the chains moving.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Jerry got the deal done. You see what he did with that? You see what he did with CD? You see what the 49ers did? Oh, yeah. They got big Trent. Trent's not coming. I used to say, hey, listen, you know what? Hey, we got a Super Bowl to win
Starting point is 00:29:30 and we're not winning the Super Bowl without those guys. You've got to be, if you can't listen, if you can't pressure the quarterback, Ocho, you can't win in this league. The quarterbacks are too good. The quarterbacks are too good. If you don't put him under duress,
Starting point is 00:29:46 I don't care if it's one, I don't care if it's 32. If you don't put that quarterback under duress, 32 will look like number one. Yeah. Most definitely. You got to make it uncomfortable the best way you can.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And one way just to do that and to pick up what they left off from a defensive standpoint, you got to bring Hassan Redick in. Or what they do, whatever they do have in the building right now, got to come up. And you know what? That's another problem. Not only that, as good as Sauce Garden is,
Starting point is 00:30:17 as good as DJ Reed is, how good are you if you got to cover somebody for goddamn eight seconds? He back there, Purdy back there doing this. Man, chilling. Man, Woody Johnson should be on the phone right now. That's on his agent. I don't know who his agent is. They need to, they got to get something done, but the 49ers look really, really good. Tonight, the lions,
Starting point is 00:30:39 they ran for 60 of the 70 yard TDR drive in overtime. Is that the most Dan Campbell thing that you can think of when he took the job? What did he say? We're going to out physical people. Hey, you might beat us, but you won't out workers. You won't out physical. You, hey,
Starting point is 00:30:58 that in your, when a team think about it, Ocho, we heard me say this and y'all guys have heard me say this a lot. When you run the football you're moving a man against his will a man got his hand on a three point stance and he says I ain't going nowhere
Starting point is 00:31:13 and the Lions say that and Decker and all those guys say to hell you not you finna get up out this plot of land and they moved him up out of Zeitler man that was an unbelievable drive you not you're gonna get up out this plot of land and they moved them up out of uh zeitler man that was an unbelievable drive to string together in overtime and to win that game yeah fam right right down the field listen i the game at the beginning i'm honestly honestly
Starting point is 00:31:37 it was a snooze fest it was a snooze fest until after halftime. Did we not see football being played? Drive being strung along from both offenses. It was 3-3 at the half. 7-3, 10-3. Right? Yeah. 7-3. It was something like that.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I mean, I was falling asleep. I was falling asleep. So I'm thinking Stafford, Cooper Cup, Puka Nakua, the ball, they're going to be throwing the ball all over the place. No crossing routes. I ain't really getting none of that
Starting point is 00:32:12 in the first half until the second half. Everything started to open up and then the game became interesting. Jamos, goddamn, Jamison, Wilson,
Starting point is 00:32:19 Jamison, Jamison, Williamson, Williamson, Williamson. Okay, go ahead. I just say Jamos. I'm going to just say Jamos. Yeah, Jameson Williamson. J-Mo. Okay, go ahead. I just say J-Mo. I'm going to just say J-Mo.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Yeah, J-Mo, man, he scared me, man. I don't like when I see players go down like that. I hate when I see players go down like that. Got there, pooping the core. He goes in. He hurt. So funny. I'm not saying it's a coincidence, but all of a sudden, you have a phenomenal rookie season.
Starting point is 00:32:46 This year, you change your diet. You change your nutrition. You do all this stuff that you didn't do that worked last year, trying to change what you're doing. I'm hoping everything is okay with him. Other than that, it was a great game. Dan Campbell and the Lions
Starting point is 00:33:02 setting the tone, the culture, everything over there has changed for the better and i'm happy i'm happy hell i'm happy for jerry golf too yeah because they don't they don't they don't ship them off no like like he was done and he's still resurrecting and in in changing the changing the ways of that you know what i'm talking? And I don't want to get too far off track here. I don't believe they thought he was done. But I do believe they didn't think he can get them over the hump. And by choice, you look at it, they won the trade because they won the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:33:36 So anytime you make a trade, Ocho, and you win the Super Bowl, how do you lose that trade? And so I think that's what they're looking at. And that's what everybody has to evaluate. Can this guy get us to the next level? He took him to a Super Bowl, and maybe they say, well, hey, he can get us there, but can we get over the hump?
Starting point is 00:33:55 And if you look at that drive that Matthew Stafford put together to take the lead against Cincinnati in the Super Bowl, that's why they got him. That's why they made the trade. How many times do you see him do this tonight, Ocho? He looking over here and throw the ball clear across there. So he has that ability. But when you look at the Lions, you look at their random football,
Starting point is 00:34:17 31 attempts, 163 yards, two touchdowns. Jerry Goff was 18 of 28, 2117, one touchdown, had an interception. Jamison Williams, 5-121. The two running backs, Montgomery, 17-91, Gibbs, 11-40. But that's not the way they want to play. They want to play a physical style of football. You know, Detroit, hardworking, blue collar, grit. That's what Dan Campbell has brought to this team.
Starting point is 00:34:43 The Lions have a lot. The fans have a lot. The fans have a lot to be excited about because it seemingly last year they went to the NFC Championship game. Probably about two minutes away from actually winning that game, Ocho, and going to the Super Bowl. And Dan Campbell's like, look,
Starting point is 00:34:58 it's not like we get to pick right back up and go to the NFC Championship game. We've got to go back down to the mountain and start to climb again. And they welcomed that. I love what I saw from the Rams. It could have got away from them because when the Lions,
Starting point is 00:35:14 when the Rams took the lead, what happened Ocho? The Lions come out three and out, boom. And I was like, oh man, the Rams can really put this game away now. You have the defense credit. A.G., Aaron Glenn, the defensive coordinator, put this game away now. Give the defense credit. A.G., Eric Glenn, the defensive coordinator, they made a great job.
Starting point is 00:35:29 They did a great job and stopped it. A.G. Stopped it and gave him the ball back, and the Lions went down the field, got a field goal, tied it up, sent it in overtime, and then they get the ball, and they go down the field, running the football for you nothing down down their throat which is the most disrespectful which is the most disrespectful
Starting point is 00:35:53 thing you can do in the nfl is like you say move a man against his will continuously down the field coaches hate that coaches coaches hate that because nothing fancy. It ain't no gadgets. It ain't no reverse. It ain't none of that, Ocho. It's handoff. It's toss. Yeah. That's all it is.
Starting point is 00:36:13 That's it. Man against man. Man against man. We feel our men are better than your men, and I'm here to prove it today. Better than yours. It's the most discouraging, heartbreaking thing that you could do to a team is just line up
Starting point is 00:36:27 and just run the ball down your throat. Man, that's on us. They tricked us on that when they ran a flicker. They ran a wide receiver pass. Hand off left. Hand off right. Toss left. Toss right. And that's all they did.
Starting point is 00:36:44 So congratulations to the Lions. Get off to a great start. 26-20 overtime win over the Rams. Quarterbacks that flip sides. Matthew Stafford used to be the quarterback, was the number one pick of the Lions. Jerry Goff was the number one overall pick of the Rams. They swapped, and first blood was drawn by the Rams
Starting point is 00:37:08 because they won a Super Bowl with Stafford. Now Jared Goff is going to try to replicate that with the Lions. But the Lions win 26-20 in overtime over the Lions. Ocho, the Dolphins beat the jags but the big news actually happened before the game and this is what happened tyreek hill was detained by police sunday a block away from hard rock stadium or driving violation he was reportedly stopped for speeding and then got into a verbal altercation with the police and was subsequently placed in handcuffs. Dolphin teammate Calais Campbell, John Smith, stopped to offer support for Hill, leading Campbell detainment for disobeying a direct order. Miami-Dade Police Department released a statement requesting an immediate review of the incident. One of the officers involved in the Hill detainment was placed on
Starting point is 00:38:06 administrative duties during the investigation. No, not administrative leave. Yeah. Administrative duty, which means he's going to be at the desk. He's not going to be in the field. Ocho, what was, what was, we're going to, we're going to discuss the game. So, but Ocho, this situation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:22 You have driven the home games. I did it for 14 years. You did it for 11, 12 years. So you know what it's like. Lay out, give the fans an idea. You go into the stadium. You got to be at the stadium. I mean, normally they ask you to be at the stadium two hours before the game.
Starting point is 00:38:38 So, okay, now Ocho, you leave the hotel the night before the game. I don't know if you stay there the full time or you go back home and change but you're on your way to the stadium take the fans through probably what transpired with tyra i mean well obviously he was headed to the stadium i mean the rest of if i'm looking at the background that's that's right outside the stadium outside of outside in the background yes you know because you can see the stadium in the background. So obviously he was right there. I'm not sure what actually happened.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I'm not sure what time it was. I'm not sure if it was running late. So obviously if you're stopping for a driving violation, the only type of driving violation you could have two hours before a game would have to be speeding of some sort, maybe not using your signal. I'm assuming something minor. Well, speeding is not minor, obviously. So I'm assuming he was pulled over
Starting point is 00:39:30 because all I have to go off of is based on what we all saw. I mean, that's it. I think it's unfortunate. I think it's an easy fix. I think it was a very easy fix to where it didn't even have to get to this point to where it got to today. I'm it was a very easy fix to where it didn't even have to get to this point, to where it got to
Starting point is 00:39:45 today. I'm not sure if cooler heads had prevailed in that time or in that manner or him being detained wouldn't have happened. In that situation, I think you and I have talked about it before. When you're stopped
Starting point is 00:40:01 by the police and doing all you can to be able to resolve the issue without it going any further. I'm not sure if Tyreek said anything. Maybe the officer was having a bad day. Was having a bad day. But there has to be some level of respect
Starting point is 00:40:18 on both ends where this doesn't happen. The fact that I don't have the evidence on what really happened and what transpired for it to get to that point, it's hard for me to dig deeper and say some of the things I want to say
Starting point is 00:40:31 outside of the fact it shouldn't get to that point, though. There should be a level of respect on both ends, obviously, especially Miami Police Department. If you work in a game, if you work in a game,
Starting point is 00:40:42 you're in detail at the game and you know it's a player obviously maybe extending him a little grace if he is running late letting him know hey reek if anything just slow down a little bit baby because you got people you got foot traffic obviously there's a game going on people trying to get to the game slow down a little bit if you're gonna be late if anything just take the fine or whatnot whatever whatever it might have been i don't know what it was but again i mean as officers knowing that there's a game getting ready to be played and knowing that it's it's a player not saying he should be getting getting grace obviously the rules and laws that
Starting point is 00:41:14 you have to abide by but it just it just there's a certain level of respect that the officers normally have for a player or in a situation and understanding what's going on but in in this case i think the thing is ladies and gentlemen like we go to the game um we had to be we were required to be to the game at least two hours before the game so our game will start at two o'clock because we're in mountain time so we start had to be there at least by 12 i normally got to the i normally got to the stadium about four and a half hours before the game so i normally got to the I normally got to the stadium about four and a half hours before the game. So I normally got to the game of the stadium about four and a half hours before the game. So the traffic wasn't as heavy. But a lot of times they block it off because they don't want traffic. They want to be able to control the traffic coming in one way.
Starting point is 00:41:56 They don't want the normal flow of traffic being able to come in all directions. So they a lot of times they'll have it blocked off um i was always conscious of that and so you know anytime i pulled up to an area and i saw police officers i would all i would like roll my window down to let them know this is shannon because my window i always had you know i always had tip but i wanted them to know that hey i'm shannon you know hey i'm going to the stadium and a lot of it most of them recognize who i was hey hey mr sharp how you doing have a great game so forth and so on now obviously the obviously, the later you get to that cutoff time that teams have established,
Starting point is 00:42:31 the more foot traffic is going to be coming. And so, obviously, they don't want you speeding through there, not even 35 miles an hour. They probably want you around 5 to 10 miles an hour because there's some traffic. Like I said, I haven't been to in Miami State of Ochoa since 98. So I couldn't, no,
Starting point is 00:42:49 actually we played them in a divisional round. But that's been so long ago Ochoa. So that's been over two decades. So I really couldn't tell you. And you know, normally when we come in on the bus, we got police escort. So it's a lot different when you got police escort as opposed to being you driving yourself. And so you're absolutely right um i think the thing is for that minor of a traffic
Starting point is 00:43:11 for okay he's speeding and you got to lay him face down on right yeah hold on hold on right in my ticket right right in my ticket there's no reason to detain him. There's no reason for him to be face down. But what you do have to think of, if it's short to that, if they've resulted to the point of having to have him face down like that, I think there might have been some exchange back and forth. There might have been some exchange back and forth. That's the only time it gets to that point when an individual is being somewhat volatile towards the law. Then they take things in their own hands because as you get
Starting point is 00:43:47 a little loud, what's the first thing they do? In that situation, Ocho. They try to detain you. He escalates the situation. He got all the power. He got a gun. He got a taser. He got a baton. He got a bulletproof vest on.
Starting point is 00:44:04 In that situation, he's gone. My thing is, anytime the police officer comes to my car, I get pulled over. My job is to get him to the car, back to his car, me on my way, he on his way, with as little conversation as possible. Okay, you pulled me over, Mr. Sharp. You know how fast you were going. I really don't. I welcome you telling me. Well, you was traveling such and such. And this must be funny. I'll say, I welcome you telling me when you was traveling such and such
Starting point is 00:44:25 I'm sorry officer I didn't know I was traveling that fast but I'm going to take your word for it because I'm trying to get him to my car back to his car as quick as possible the longer he stays at my car the greater the chance that there's something
Starting point is 00:44:42 that it can escalate now a lot of times they're supposed to be in a situation where they deescalate the situation, but that's not always how, and plus, oh, you think, cause you, this, you, that you driving this car. Oh, you think you can? No, I don't think that. So that was, that's my whole thought process. How soon can I get him to my car back to his car or on his motorcycle and get him on his way?
Starting point is 00:45:08 In a situation like that, Ocho, for Tyreek to be laid down and it looked like, I saw a video, it looked like the guy kneed him in his back. I thought that was, yeah, yeah, yeah. He kneed him, but I thought he kneed him. I could be wrong. And maybe the video, maybe somebody, the video that I saw, maybe that wasn't how it happened. But it looked apparently to me that the guy did mean a little excessive. Yeah. And I'm not saying that he dropped the Ric Flair knee on him or something like that.
Starting point is 00:45:38 You know, in WWE. But but it looked like it was unnecessary. It seemed to me that it was unnecessary that you lay a man down in the street for a traffic violation. I can see if the guy was, he was traffic violation and he was warning for some heinous crime, but I don't think that was the case. But I think what's going to happen because this was so public and it is the
Starting point is 00:46:01 Miami dolphins and Steven Ross and the NFL. Now everybody's getting involved. Oh, you're going to come to a quick resolution here. And I can assure you that will probably won't happen again. I'm not going to say for certain, but there is a great chance that this won't happen again. That guy might've been a little overzealous. I'm not saying that Tyreek wasn't speeding, but I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:46:21 I don't know if speeding warrants that laying a man down face down in the pavement you put your knee in his back you're handcuffed well i mean if you're gonna do if you're gonna if you're gonna do all that i mean you might as well go on and take it down yeah yeah yeah most definitely i mean yes that would make it that would make it even worse that would that would make it even worse and obviously i wish i wish the situation could have been rectified right away there's a certain level of respect that obviously me being from miami that i that yeah not not not even close not even close not two not two hours before a game
Starting point is 00:47:00 when the officers understand that okay whatever the driving violation may have been, listen, quick little talk, listen, you got to slow down. But you know what? Okay, if you are speeding a little bit, listen, I know you got a game, baby. You can't be driving that fast through here. I got to give you a ticket. I got to give you a ticket, man. I got to do right by the law, but I'm going to let you go about your way.
Starting point is 00:47:20 That's it. Simple. It's over. Driver's license, registration, I got to write this ticket. Just slow down for me next time. We got seven more home games here. that's it simple it's over driver's license registration I gotta write this ticket just slow down for me next time we got seven more home games here next time you come through here hopefully we got more than that
Starting point is 00:47:31 just be driving the right way hopefully we got more home huh oh okay yeah yeah yeah most definitely most definitely most definitely
Starting point is 00:47:39 but listen I think it's sustained though it's sustained on the Miami on the Miami it is it's definitely not a good look it's definitely not a good look it's definitely not a good look on Joe it's over abusing
Starting point is 00:47:52 your power just a little bit just a little bit understanding the situation understanding the circumstances Tyree is no threat in this situation he's not going to do you any bodily harm I mean you know that. I think, obviously, it was very
Starting point is 00:48:07 excessive and unnecessary. I think the thing is, like Tyreek said, what if he wasn't who he was? And the thing is now, I think the cameras, and a lot of times people are like, well, body cameras on, they're wearing body cams. And people are like, well, body cameras on, you know, they're wearing
Starting point is 00:48:26 body cams and people like, well, Shannon, you talk about you don't get on the elevator with women. Do you understand it was cameras? Do you know how many times we've seen stuff on cameras and mofos walk up out the courtroom, Scott ass free, and you want me to take that? Just my luck. Guess what? The camera ain't working that day.
Starting point is 00:48:41 How many times there was a situation, oh, the officer forgot to turn his body cam on, Ocho. I assume nothing. Thinking they slick. The moment you pull somebody off, you're supposed to hit that button. But that's neither here nor there.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Tyreek's okay. Probably a little, a lot embarrassed, not a little, a lot embarrassed because this played out in front of national, in front of, you know, you play in front of millions, but I don't expect to be handcuffed face down with a knee in my back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Oh, not, not in my own city. Not in the city I play for. And then Tyreek, he did what Tyreek Hill does. He catches an 80 yarder, takes it to the house. He ends the day seven catches for a buck 31 touchdown, the 80-yarder. And then he did a, by 10 a.m., they had his hand behind his back. And then at 3 a.m., he had a celebration going with his hand behind his back. Hill and Jalen Waddell counted for 211 of the Miami Dolphins,
Starting point is 00:49:44 400 total yards in offense. Tua threw for 338, one touchdowns. Jacksonville was the ninth best defense against the run last season, and they showed it. Miami only had 25 carries for 81 yards, but A-Chain had 75. Russian Waddle had five for 109. Tyreek had seven for a buck 30.
Starting point is 00:50:06 But this game seemed to be – Ocho, this game was about to be put away. Jag, 18. The Jags. And Duke comes and peanut punches. They get the ball. And two plays later, Tyreek – so what was about to be a 24-7 ball game, Ocho, now all of a sudden you get the ball at the 20, and two plays later, Tyreek's in the
Starting point is 00:50:30 end zone. And so now, what was supposed to be 24-7 is 17-14. Now, the crowd is back in the game. Now the defense is starting to feel good about themselves.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Yeah, we got a ball game. But give Miami credit. Jacksonville had an opportunity to really put some distance between them. They were unable to do it, and it just go – Yeah. In the blink of an eye, the momentum flipped just like that, Ocho. A 14-point swing. Ocho, the Steelers beat the Falcons behind six field goal by Chris Bonio, 18-10.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Russell Wilson aggravated a calf injury earlier in the week, gave Justin Fields an opportunity. Justin Fields from the Atlanta area, he completed 17 of 23, 156 yards. He rushed 14 times for 57 yards. But the most important thing for Justin Fields, he didn't turn it over. No, Chris Boswell is the kicker, not Bonio. Chris Boswell. And as the game went on, it looked like Justin Fields got more and more comfortable.
Starting point is 00:51:36 He looked comfortable. Yeah. I say this again. The great thing that Tom Brady could do, he understood what type of game it was going to be. Justin Fields, look, ain't going to be a whole lot of points score first of all Arthur Smith is not going to turn me loose is not going to have me throwing a spread of all
Starting point is 00:51:54 all over the field so let me get the ball to George Pickens let me hand this ball off to Najee Harris and let them do what they do and all I don't as long as I don't put the ball in harm's way, I like our chance of winning this ball game. And that's exactly what happened.
Starting point is 00:52:11 The Steelers offense was, they couldn't finish drives, but they had a very reliable kicker. He kicked a 51 yarder, a 56 yarder, a 57 yarder to become the first Pittsburgh Steelers kicker to kick three field goals of 50 plus yards in a game in franchise history. The question I got for you, Ocho, if Russell Wilson is healthy next week, does he start or do you stick with Justin Fields? Absolutely not. You know, you know, Russell Wilson is going back to his starting job.
Starting point is 00:52:40 You know, Russell Wilson was awarded the starting quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Therefore, when he's back healthy, he's back in the slot. I think the offense in itself, in general, especially with the playbook and the play calling with Arthur Smith, it opens up the playbook exponentially as opposed to if Justin Fields
Starting point is 00:53:00 was at the helm. Two different type of quarterbacks. So, I think the best fit for the was at the helm. Two different type of quarterbacks. So I think the best fit for the Steelers would be Russell Wilson for the foreseeable future. But anyway, Adam Schefter
Starting point is 00:53:15 dropped the bomb this morning that Coach Belichick wants to return to coaching next season. Hell, he wanted to coach this season. That's why he went on job interviews. They make it seem like Coach Belichick turned jobs down. That's why he went on job interviews. They make it seem like Coach Belichick turned jobs down. That wasn't the case. You know what?
Starting point is 00:53:36 I'd like to see him coach. I think the difference now with Bill is will Bill be able to adapt to the younger generation of players? Will he be able to adapt to the younger generation of players? Will he be able to evolve? I don't think,
Starting point is 00:53:48 I don't think the older style of coaching in a sense will resonate with the younger, with the younger generation. I don't know if that makes sense. I think you might be able to explain it a little better. I think those in the chat might understand what I'm saying. Being able to relate to the players, being able
Starting point is 00:54:07 for getting the players to understand how you do things. I don't think the old school style of coaching will go very well with them. As Adam reported, Coach Belichick wants to return to coaching if the right opportunity presents itself. Belichick will be able to keep a close eye on the league through the media projects,
Starting point is 00:54:27 tracking his players, and readying himself to coach again. Pocho, where do you land? Where would you think he will land? As I said, he went on some interviews. Remember, he had two interviews with the Cowboys before they settled on Raheem Morris. Morris, excuse me. He interviewed somewhere. Where did he interview at?
Starting point is 00:54:46 Didn't he interview with two teams? I know he interviewed with the Falcons. Who? Yeah. No, I'm talking about to be a head coach. They wanted him as a DC and San Fran. Did he interview in Seattle?
Starting point is 00:55:04 Did he interview? Why am I thinking he interviewed with two teams? I know he had two interviews with the Falcons. I like honestly, I like Bill on TV. He won that record. I like Bill on TV.
Starting point is 00:55:24 He won Shula. Nah. I think it's like 379. What's the number again? Something like that. 347. Probably like 20 games. How far away is he?
Starting point is 00:55:36 25 games. Yeah. That's it? Yeah. Hold on. That's it. In the right situation. That's it.
Starting point is 00:55:44 In New England, he won with them. I mean, well, obviously, yeah, I mean, yeah hold on that's it in the right situation that's it in New England he wasn't there I mean well obviously yeah I mean he wasn't gonna get it cause well I mean where did he go can you imagine Belichick with the Cowboys just the Falcons okay
Starting point is 00:55:56 or head coach yeah you heard me can you imagine Bill with the Cowboys that ain't happening it's hard Ocho when you think about it when you've had power for 20 years yeah
Starting point is 00:56:13 so 20 almost 25 years you had total control how do you go and you have a general manager over you and you don't get really final say on the roster or draft how you operate under that i think i you have a conversation before you even yeah that's why you have those those um those interviews understanding understanding
Starting point is 00:56:42 land laying the landscape before you even get hired and if if the young fella with the star who runs owns a team doesn't agree you just walk
Starting point is 00:56:52 well you just walk Jerry ain't gonna give you the Jerry just told you Ocho he told you one of the greatest coaches of all can't nobody do it
Starting point is 00:57:01 better than him I mean Bill has six Super Bowl championships I think he can coaches the ball. Can't nobody do it better than him? I mean, Bill has six Super Bowl championships. I think he can. Can't nobody do it like me. Hey, one thing about it, he's a salesman. Can't nobody sell a product like he can. Now that I agree with.
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