Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 2: NFL Week 4 QB POWER Rankings + Tyreek Hill HINTS Potential LANDING Spots + Sean McVay says NFL Told Rams DPI Was WRONG + Piston REMOVE Weight CLAUSE From Duren’s CONTRACT

Episode Date: October 1, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the NFL’s Week 4 Power Rankings, Tyreek Hill hints at comeback, Sean McVay says NFL told Rams DPI should have not been called and Pistons remove weight clause from Duren’s contract! Download PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $150 instantly in Lineups if you win your first $5 Lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NIGHTCAP 0:00 - Week 4 QB Power Rankings16:13 - Tyreek Hill hints at potential landing spot26:05 - Sean McVay says NFL told Rams DPI shouldn't have been called31:18 - Pistons have removed weight clause in Jalen Duren contract offer (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Dak Prescott, 7 TDs, 1 interception. Josh Allen, 786, 5 TD, 2 interception, 6 rush touchdowns, but also has three fumbles. Trevor Lawrence, 616. team passing yards, 17s, two interceptions. Three of these quarterbacks are undefeated. The others are two and one are undefeated, and the others are two and one.

And the other just lost a heartbreaker in Brazil. Damn. Look, your quarterback plays well, more times than not, you're going to win. It's really that simple. It's unlike, I guess as you can say, it's kind of like, well, it's not like baseball, your starting pitch, you can have a rough three or four innings,

and then, you know, the rest of your pitcher can close the door and not let anybody get hit and your offense take over knocking. This guy don't play well. It's hard to overcome a bad quarterback playing in the NFL now. Yeah. It's really hard. It's damn impossible. And most of the time when quarterback do play bad,

you can survive, you know, bad quarterback play if you have one hell of a defense. Yeah. One really, I'm talking about really good defense, but they have to be very, very good. Very good. So most of the time, I mean, I'm surprised the culprits that are in the top that are playing right now. It's expected. Yeah. I expect Brock Purdy to play well. I'm expecting Patrick Mahomes, even coming off ACL at 80%. He's still better than almost everybody. Yeah. You know, so I expect, I expect that to throw for the numbers he's throwing for because he's done it countless times and time and time again.

That's never been his issue. Never been his problem. Josh Allen has been Josh Allen for who knows how long. But it just sometimes, Ocho, your quarterback can play bad but the opposing team quarterback plays just as bad if not worse and you'll win.

A la Buffalo. Ain't no way in hell Buffalo's supposed to win that game on Sunday. But because Justin Herbert was just as bad. Yeah. Maybe worse. Josh Allen was able to play as bad as he did and win the ball game.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. But, yeah, oh, Dack. Oh, hello. Dak, what, what, Dad doing number three? Well, hold on, what you see? What you mean? Seven touchdowns of one, one in a session. What do you mean? Yeah, one-game. But then he did that because the quarterback got hurt. Then we ain't won by one game because our defense been sus and we're cleaning that up.

But don't act like he'd been out there. What's your how you got you got, Ajax, Dawn, which I got problem with, what y'all got problems with you're cleaning up with? We're getting better. We get better. We get better. I'm going to wait about that. Huh?

Who? Who we got this week, man? My Cowboys, bro. What you mean? Y'all losing, no matter. Cardinals, I think y'all got the Cardinals. Oh, boy, you know that. Oh, the Texans.

Oh, you know y'all not winning. Hey, Joe, and that's the funny thing about it, too. Just if you understand the way football goes, right? If you understand how the football guards work in general, they're not going to allow the Texans to go o' and four. Yeah, why come they ain't? Who you is? What make you think they ain't?

No, I'm just saying, Joe, listen, I'm not talking about the Cowboys in general. I'm just saying the way the game is slated and the fact that the Houston, Texas, the O and 3. The football guys aren't going to allow them to be on four. That's just the way it works, Joe. I'm telling you. Hey, Joe, I tell you what, if you're a bet man, and that's anybody, listen, if you're a bet man to understand, guarantee you the Texas win this game. And there's nothing against the Cowboys.

It's just the way, it's just the way to get. game goes just the way they're hold on hold on didn't the other night didn't didn't all let's just bet against the damn bears other night because Caleb Williams didn't play then we all bet we all said that who the hell who was that they played other night Philly who the Bears who really Philly Philly Philly we said we said that Philly was gonna walk the dog on them oh who said I said the bear was going to win no you didn't man we all picked Philly bro no no no you all pick Philly yeah yeah no no I ain't trying to anyway anyway listen the

Texas is going to be o' and four. We ain't got nothing to do with our left, bro. We need a win. We need a dub. You know what I? I don't see it. I don't see it. Now you won't see it.

Now you won't see it. I bet you don't see it now. Yeah. I'll see it. And I'm looking real hard to find a win for y'all. Nah, no. They're making promising. Hey.

This week don't look good. Next week don't look too much better. Who they got next week? Somebody that can beat them. Man, y'all need to work. Y'all need to be worried about child teams, okay? Hey, Joe, we good, Joe. We good, Joe.

We good. We good. Huh? We let the Steelers getaway one. And people have to understand. The Bengals did lose the game, right? I know we put a lot of the blame on Joe Burrow. Obviously, you have an opportunity to tie the game. We in field goal range.

You can't fumble it. Also, the right guard. You can't be piss poor in that moment. You can't be piss poor in that moment. In the Super Bowl, on that four down, you know who else was piss poor and allow Aaron Donald to get through? Right guard again. So again, same person.

problem, same issues, but anyway, that neither here no there. The Jacksonville Jaguars is coming down to Cincinnati. You hear me? Ooh, you hear me? The boy, the Jaguars are playing well, boy. Yeah, yeah. A, Sunshine is playing the quarterback position just as good about anybody in the NFL. He is.

I respect them boys. You know, Travis Hunter in the rest of the boys. Parker, Washington. A Parker Washington playing. Jacobi. Yeah, Strange and tight end. Hey, but let me tell you something. It ain't happening this Sunday.

It ain't happening this. Matter of fact, hey, Joe, I'm feeling so good, right? And this is how much I love Jacksonville Jaguar fans, right? I'm from the drive to Jacksonville. And I'm going to watch the Bengals game with my Bengals gear on with the Jacksonville Jaguar fans. You know, because it's all love. It's all love. But I just want to see people's faces when we walk out with this W.

Huh? We're going to be eating Ws like James Swin. I don't know, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, the Jags ain't playing defensively they locked in. Hey, they go, Joe. Hey, Joe, I'm not even for the same lie, Joe. Hey, Unk, but them boy are playing some ball on both sides of the ball. Yeah. I understand that.

But they get ready to come against that juggernaut. You know, that juggernaut off the team and Joe Burrow, T. Higgins and Jamar Chase and Chase. And Chase, hey, hold on, hold on. You know, little trap trying to, he's trying to capitalize on that pick. He had last week here. You know he, he, he, what do you mean? Yeah. Well, you're talking about, you talk about, you talk about Heisman, Travis Hunter?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, that's that boy, that's that boy. Let me tell you something. Travis Hunter is one of the greatest athletes I've ever seen. You hear me? In college and he's showing flashes of brilliance early in his career in year two with the Jags. But let me tell you something. I love Travis Hunter to death, right?

But on Sunday, huh? It's going to be one of those moments, welcome to the NFL. Huh? Welcome to the NFL. You know, having a cover chase, having a cup of T. Higgins. You hear me? I don't know. There ain't going to be nothing pretty.

Ooh. I love that back end schedule. Y'all got Joe. Hey, they out of the air. They got Seattle, the Rams, Jacksonville. Ooh. What, you, what do you mean? What's you trying to say?

They ain't going to win nothing on? Hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Unk praying on our downfall. No, no, no, no, never that, Joe. I've been noticing that. You're talking about the damn back end. We're going week to week, man.

We get to Texas this week. Okay, y'all going to lose this week. No, no, no, hell now. Now, we ain't losing. Next week, y'all beat Tampa. It's going to be interesting to see y'all Green Bay and Philly. I don't know. Philly is a division game.

I don't really know what Philly going to give us. You never know what Philly going to give us. I think Green Bay going to spring. Oh, that's a Sunday night game. Oh, Green Bay got y'all. Man, come on. Tampa. Tampa is a, y'all play.

I mean, thank you, Joe. Y'all play Sunday. Thursday, the following Sunday, I mean, yeah, the following Sunday night, and then the following Monday night. Hey, hey, hey, this, it is what it is. Man, this is what presented to us. Hey, we're ready for the challenge.

What you're saying? Y'all ain't like, y'all really talking about something. I'm not talking about that. I don't count it up. I just counted up on my calculator and ad chat GPT. So y'all got by seven losses in there right now. Yeah, man, come on, bro. Now what's your GPD?

I mean, Shan, yeah. Hey, y'all better get the Shan GPT. Hey, you need to worry about them Broncos and them damn Ravens, okay? Hey, well, you tell you already know we do Bronco country. Hey, let me tell you, hey, Joe, honestly, the game, the game of the week is down there in Cincinnati. That's the game of the week.

I believe it. That's the game of the week. Why are you driving to Jacksonville there if the game is in Cincinnati? I don't know. You didn't hear me, Unk. I want to see the faces of the fans. I want to sit with the, with the Jaguar fans in Jacksonville. You need to chill.

You need to be. Hey, no, no. Listen, hey, Joe, they love me down there, Joe. You hear me? They love me down there, Joe. So I just want to give them the opportunity, you know, to sit with them. We could talk a little trash back and forth. And it's always respect, Joe.

It's always respect between me and them. But I need to be in their presence. I need to be able to touch, feel and hug. And, hey, I love you. But the day, you're going to lose like that. You feel me? So when the game is over, then it's back to love. Okay.

I see a little bit of a while. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Tell a little Duvall, you already, Duvall say bet. Hey, man, he's scared. He didn't respond to back. No, he said bet.

He talked about, he, he talked about, oh, he, uh, I, that little po' ad 2000. I said, well, make it fired in. I said, we're making five. And he didn't respond to that five bet. Huh? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but hey, if we have any, any Jacksonville fans that are in the chat tonight that are watching, you know, I have nothing but respect for y'all.

y'all know that i love y'all to death and uh this is the opportunity for me to be able to come out and hang with y'all and i can't see y'all in years since i played down in theville years ago against rachian mathis please tell me where to go uh this sunday i'll probably come down saturday night uh get me a nice of a hotel somewhere off montcrieff and uh i just tell me where to go so i could chill with y'all and enjoy the game we could talk a little trash little banter back and forth and just and just politic and exchange pleasantries yeah yeah yeah i'm gonna have on my Bengal jersey too, huh? Who they? Okay. I'm trying to figure out, Joe. Oh, Joe. Huh. Why are you going, if the game is Cincinnati or is it in Jacksonville? It's in Cincinnati, but I don't want to go to Cincinnati, Unk. I want to be with the Jaguar fans. You're not understanding. Hold on. You make it seem like the Jaguar fan like this is a World Cup game where the country and they got places out there. Ain't nobody going to be out. They're going to be out. Jacksonville is a beautiful place. Unk, what you're talking about? You ever been to Jacksonville? Yes, I have. Okay.

Jacksonville is a beautiful place and the people would love my presence. They would love my presence to be there. Hey, Deauvall, matter of fact, Duvall, you come out too. Some people, they told me to go to the block or the, they told me to go to a cigar international. But I just, I just want to, I want to go to a place, Uncle Joe, where all the fans gather and watch the game. So I can see the feet on their face after every touchdown, after every first down. And I just want to get up and I just want to just go crazy and piss everybody off. Huh?

No, I haven't been to Jacksonville. I'm trying to think one last time I've been to Jacksonville in 30 years. Damn. And what you were doing out there? Huh? Huh? I said what you were doing in Jacksonville? No, no, I went out there.

Leroy, uh, had a, had a, had a get together and I went out there to show support. Oh, okay. All right. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I went to the zoo running. I don't know, hey, Chad, the Jacksonville still got a zoo. I went to, you know, you know, when I was a high school, went to the zoo.

the high school went to the zoo one time, you know. What you, what you said, what you mean? You were at the zoo. What was going on to the zoo? I mean, you know, we had a field trip. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hold on, no, I went to, I went to, uh, no, I should tell you that.

We played, I was in Baltimore. Last time I went to Jacksonville was 2001. Caught the game went in touch. You called me the Jaguar Killer, Ocho. Oh, really? Hey, Jay, um, that's, They used to call me that too, huh? Caught two game-winning touchdowns against them

and caught the game-winning catch just out of the field goal. Yes, sir. Man, what was it about Jacksonville? The Jaguar? Hey. They play man coverage. Yeah. They fought a bomb blitz.

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, I always had a time, every time I had an opportunity to play the Jaguar, Joe. Yeah. Because they play man? Huh? Because they played man? They used to be good, though, Joe.

The fact that you lined up in front of me, I don't care what you play. You can get this work, you hear me? Joe, they were good. I ain't going to lie to you, Joe. They were really good. Yeah, they were. They had Steve Brunel and Keenan and Keenan and Keenan and Jimmy Smith.

Donovan Darius. Yeah, Tony Bracken, there, Loggerman. They were really good. They were nice, Joe. Jay Smooth. Hey, Jimmy Smith, I'm coming down. That baby just tell me where to go, huh? You hear me?

Keenan McArdle. Keenan McCardell, he coached somewhere. And the Rams? No, not the Rams. He was in, God, dog. Keeney was. Detroit? No, because the receiver coach for the Rams is,

um, Eric, no, Eric, Eric Yarber. My college coach from Oregon State. Freddie T. I know Freddie. Hey, Fred Taylor. Huh?

Fred Taylor, y'all boy, Hey, Marcus Stroud. Yeah, I ain't forgot about you. What? Huh? Yeah. I wonder what Jack Bar, I want to go. Oh, he's the Buccaneer, though, Joe.

Oh, that's where he at? Isn't he? Oh, I don't know. I don't know who the receiver coach in Minnesota. Oh, he's why I received a coach in Minnesota? Oh, he in Minnesota with Jettas? Yep. That's live.

That's live. Yeah. I show which the NFL give me a receiver coached, John. You and you, you, what do you mean? I just, I just want to be out there coaching, huh? And Joe, you feel me? Man. Hey, you take that job.

How are we going to have your own nightcap? At 10 o'clock at night, I'm going to be, I'm going to be free. Oh, okay. You're going to be cool to talk about, you're going to be cool to talk about your team that you own? Yeah, why not? Because, you know what my receiver? You know what my receiver going to do every Sunday? What are they going to eat?

Come hella hot water. They're going to be open. Oh, okay. That's it. We ain't going to have the scheme, nothing open. Every off season, y'all with me, all six months. What they're working on? Food work?

footwork. Bunch of ladder drills. Hey, manipulation, playing half a man the whole time, understanding defenses, understanding coverages, knowing what's coming before or come. You learn about shit talking, playing mental gymnastics with your opponent, get him to talk back because it's a mental game.

If you get him to talk back, that means you got him. Yeah. Huh? Tell you, boy, it's the type of knowledge. Can't nobody else give. They need me. They need me out there, man. I already know it.

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Rik suffered a tour in ACL last September and went unsigned through the offseason and while he was rehabbing. Ocho, Joe, where would you like to see Rik land? Cold weather. Oh, that's a good question, boy. Hey, um, matter of fact, hold on, hold on now. They can always use a little help. Can you imagine Matthew Golden and Tyree Kier over there in Green Bay?

Huh? Jaden Reed is going out with a neck injury. Hey, heal up, young bull. He'll up. You know, he's out indefinitely this year. Why not add another species to go with Matthew Golden? Hmm? Christian Watson.

Now, we talk about a four-by-one team right there, Ongon, Joe. What about Kansas City? He said, Cold Weather. They got too many bodies. They got to me. Listen, Cyrus Allen. Gordon. Thornton.

You got, uh, Rice. Worthy. Davey worthy. That's four right there. Yeah, they got,

they loaded. But if, with Jane Reed going down, you can replay, you can, you can have Tyrookoe come in and have somewhat of approved, approve it here to see where his leg is,

you know, over there in Green Bay. Can you imagine that? Man, stop playing. Chad, what y'all think? Tyrook here over that, matched up.

Hold on. They got good receivers over there in Green Bay, though, Ocho. One just went down with the neck injury. Joe, he out for the year. The one that's been killing? Jalen Reed, no, the one been killing, probably Christian Watson. Matthew Golden. A, Matthew Golden has come on really good in the second year, too.

He's coming on. He's coming on strong. What about, what about Reeking Buffalo? Ooh. What, um, how? What you mean, how? You got Shakir. You got DJ Moore.

That's a secure spot. Rick is outside. Rick outside the numbers. You got DJ Moore. You got DJ Moore. Hey. Got some speed. You got somebody to take the top off it.

I like Green Bay better. You got, I mean, personally, because Green Bay throws the ball much more, much more. What about Chicago?

Oh, my goodness. They already have a speister. What's number 14 name? I, excuse me, hey, Chad, please forgive me for, you know, for not knowing his name. Well, they got, they got Roma Dunesay. Rome and Luther Burton and number 14, hey, he can fly. Chat, what's, what's a young boy name? Boy, say he's going to some cold weather.

That's why I said Green Bay. God, I can't remember a dude name, man, from, from the, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, from, you're talking about Khali from, he's from Detroit. Hey, he can fly, boy. Oh my goodness. You think it's been a year. So it's about to be, he about to be, what, 13 months removed from surgery.

Oh, he ready. You seen him out there running in that sand? Huh? How old is he? How old is it? 24, 25? No, hell. Rick probably about 31, 32.

But his 31, 32 is different. Everybody else 31, 32. What about Indy? Alec Pierce just went on our, went on our. He did. That's only four games. Well, now three games because that was last week. Indy, Daniel Jones.

Well, that don't mean that he's going to be ready to go in four games. Okay, how about this here? What about Houston? They have Tankdale. What about Houston, Joe? I don't see that. For whatever reason, I'm listening to the man talk. The man says something about cold weather.

Houston, it don't strike me that he's going on. Okay, we'll go to Baltimore. No. No. Oh, he don't want him in Baltimore. You see what he's that Joe? No, because he's going to take you. They got Bateman. Huh? You got, um, what about Baltimore, Joe? Hey. We know, Ocho Bob. You got saved flowers. Hey, with them, with them, with them, with them dual quarterbacks, I like him in Buffalo too. With, will, we, will quarterbacks who can improvise and work outside the pocket, I think that works great for Tyreek Hill, bro.

Hey, y'all going to piss me off tonight. We'll get pissed off then. Yeah. I ain't going to say it anymore. Tyree killed the Green Bay. And you know I mean business when I get up out of my seat. Steelers might be a lot. What about the Steelers?

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Ann Rogers, Tyreek, that's, that's, that's, that's a lot like that. Yeah. But they already got, they already got to burn him. Who? Calvin Austin, the third. He's not there anymore. Man.

No. We'll see. Green Bay. Why you want him in Green Bay? I think you want to go home. Home where? Kansas City. There's too many bodies.

There's too many bodies. But they just throw him right in the office. No, it's just he going to be upset. He wants to come in and be productive right away. Where can he come in based on the team that actually need and can use him? Calvin Austin, the third, don't choice in the, in the, on the Giants. So he's going.

Yeah. Okay. So basically got Skoronic. They got D.K., they got Pitman Jr. They got, what's the other guy, number 14, Pittsburgh.

Aaron Rogers loved, but he'd be driving, making Aaron want to pull his hair out. Oh, Raymond, Raymond. Yeah. Row with Wilson. Yeah, see, they, they're too young over there. No.

Green Bay makes more sense because they're going to actually use him. He tried to keep anybody I don't want nobody to compete against Cincinnati. You see what you doing, Joe? I already know. That's why he didn't want to go to Pittsburgh. Hey, me, what?

I want to think about that. I'm looking out for the best interest to the Tyreek. And it ain't playing in Pittsburgh. Yeah, I don't like Pittsburgh for me, though, Joe. Yeah, Joe, I appreciate that, Joe. Because the chat agreed with me too. I like Kansas City for him, though. Can you imagine?

They have too many bodies. You got Tyquine Thornton. You got Xavier Worthy. You got Rieke. You got Rashid Rice and Kelsey. That's too damn much, oh. Exactly. Hey, it looked good on paper, but you're going to do that.

And you got what you call me in the back field? You got K-9? Nah, I don't like it. You got that whole dog back now. Go, post, sell, go on the other side. We got two goals. We got a post and we got a sale ride. What you're going to do, Ocho?

Play, play zone. Okay, go ahead. And keep everything underneath. Are you going to play cover too? That's how you stop that. K9 are going to run you out of the building. Hello. K9 are going to run you out of the building.

Don't drop a safety down. Ooh, Baham will be bombs over Baghdad. I mean, they should be bombs over Baghdad right now. Don't you worry about that. You worry about Cincinnati. What y'all are going to do? Oh, we're going to be fine. I told you, we were going to put BTA to Jaguars.

BTA. Nah. Hey, Trevor, don't you take another knee at the one yard line. You get that damn ball in the end zone. Hey, I got a question. Why is that, is that, does that call come from the sideline? Remember Seekwon did it? I don't know what he was thinking.

Remember Sequin did it in the game last year? Well, Sequin did it because of the time on the clock. They had eight minutes in the game. So why do you do that? Hey, why do you do that for real? And it happens all the time. And people ask me. and I don't even know.

Brain lock. Brain locked. Hey, you know everybody's about, see I told you, I told you the NFL was fixed. Yeah. Can you imagine how many people, you know, he probably messes for people

fantasy. Oh, fanatics, fanatics gave people their money back their bet because they bet on Trevor Lars or anytime touchdown. Wow. Damn. Yeah.

What if I put Tyreek in Cincinnati? No. No. Too much. He won't get the ball enough. Yeah. Mm-mm. Now I can put Chase in the slot, let Chase work that slot?

No. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Look at Joe. Hell, no. I'm trying to. I'm purposely putting him somewhere where he's going to be a viable target right now as soon as he gets out on the field.

All right. Well, I'm putting him in San Francisco then. They got too many pieces. What they got? Mike Evans might be out. What's wrong now? Pierce all gone. Who else they got?

You got Kiddell. You got McCaffrey. Because McCaffrey's not just a running back. Oh yeah. Rick, going to 49th. He said he wants to work. Forty-N-N-Lor Baltimore. Hey, where he goes to

or Kansas City? He got to be worked in. Okay, Ocho, you can't throw that man in the fire. You know what I mean? Yeah, we're going to work it in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, give him a few snaps here and that. Working back in lightly. Don't throw that man out there.

Gunning. now. Sean McVeigh says the NFL told the team that the defensive pass interference should not have been called against the quarterback Josh Wallace and the Sunday night lost to the Broncos. On 3rd and 6 at the 11-yard line, Wallace intercepted Bowdo Nakes but was flagged for pass interference on Pat Bryant, given the Broncos first and goal at the 7. The Broncos scored on that drive to take the lead with 47 seconds. I don't even know why to do that, Joe.

All you do is make me mad or now. Yeah, you knew the car was wrong. Because I told you at the time it shouldn't have been the flight. Go ahead, guys. They knew the call was wrong, Uncle Joe. They knew that. Remember when the Saints played the Rams? What year was that?

In that championship game, yeah. Yeah. I think 20, 2018? The ball didn't even get close. Didn't even get there. He didn't hit the man. There's no call. And wasn't that CJ Gardner Johnson to hit and hit him?

It wasn't. I think so, Joe. I can't remember exactly who it was. But it was a great play. It was a great defense to play. And to make a great defense to play like that, right? And to get called for a flag, then they actually replay it. The rest of the world can see unless you're a fan of the team,

unless you're a Broncos fan, you're like, okay, cool, it's PI. If you're a football fan, you know Good and well that wasn't PI. Not the fact that they reviewed it, and they still upheld it as a pass and a fair. No, and Goodwin, it wasn't. That's what I'm saying. And Pat Bryant selling it and flopping, like somebody really, why are you putting your head back? Come on, man.

The man is behind you. what you doing that's what I'm saying I call it a my team benefited but I call boy job but we'll take it yeah but what I told you all that night I told y'all that night I said man come on man they want to come on bro yeah I can't believe it was 2018 it's like how you looking at the replay though Arcan Ocho you look dead at the damn replay and figured it come on man but it they didn't they were looking at the replay they were just NBC just kept showing it because there is no there is no replay for past interference.

They had it in, oh, you'll remember they had it in, but they took it out. Right. And they say, well, maybe it's time to revisit it. But they would just, that was just NBC just reshort it to see if he passed interference. And I didn't think it was either. But don't tell, it's like the, it's like the two minute report, Joe, in basketball. Man, don't tell me about no call. Because I tried to tell you at the time that was a bulljive call or it wasn't no call.

it wasn't this or that. And y'all went here and called it. And now you're going to let me know after the fact, I feel worse. I'm more upset now. Because guess what? Y'all are going to say, okay, y'all going to give us the win?

Because we had to lead. And if that interception stands, guess what? We get the ball back with 47 seconds and we win the ball game. Yeah. So with that being saying, unless y'all changing outcomes of the game,

don't tell me it was a PI or it was, this should have been called, or that should have been called. because all you're going to do is piss me off even more. Man, that's crazy, bro. Hey, look, I think I've told this story before, but we played the Miami Heat when I was playing for the Hawks, and we had to start a game that we previously had already played.

I remember that, Joe. Yeah, we had to start in the fourth quarter, like three minutes left. That's how we started the game. We had to finish that game, and then we restarted a whole other game because of something that happened in the past game. So I'm like, damn, if they did us like that,

why they can't do that, why they can't do that in other sports? Huh? And football. They can't do that. Yeah, you can. The most you're going to get is going to get what Cleveland and Tampa did.

A three, four hour delay and go play the game. But you ain't able to get no game played. You have been to get no situation like that. Yeah, maybe we had to replay a whole other game. Didn't start a new game. That was crazy. Yeah, but in a situation like that guy, I don't even want to know. Because all they're going to do is make you more upset, Joe, don't you?

Yeah. Yeah. Especially when you've been pleading your case already. You're like, man, I'm telling you, you know, it wasn't no PI. And now it takes you a whole damn day or two to come back and tell me what I've already told you, you know, and the thicker. Come on, man. Yeah. And matter of fact, hey, the funny thing about it too, Uncle Joe, is the refs.

They all try to do their best job. They have the higher scores because they are graded on the games based on the call that they make, whether they get them right or get them wrong, to be able to compete or not compete, to be able to ref the Super Bowl. Well, you want to, yeah, you want to work playoff games. You want to get, you know, the higher you score that you're going to get playoff games and then eventually, you know, hopefully you're high enough you get the Super Bowl. And listen, you make you make a mistake like this, clear as day,

After you huddle up, after you watch a replay, I mean, come on now. You kiss the damn Super Bowl goodbye. You ain't refereeing the Super Bowl. That's what you get. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. It's old way. The Hard Rock Bet Casino app is here, Ontario.

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And download Roland Martin unfiltered on the IHart radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. In order to entice Jalen Duren to sign his five-year, $200 million contract, the Detroit Pistons has removed the weight clause from the contract. This would have required Jailen to weigh in monthly throughout. the year as part of incentive deal. But according to Sam, Amick, Duren, is reportedly pissed

even more that the fact of the first of the front office, Trajan Langdon compared this situation to Zion Williams. As players who were difficult to deal with during media day. Amic, according to Amic, the disrespect is going to be even a greater level.

Langdon Full Comments. It's the first time I've ever had to handle it here. I was in New Orleans for five years with a certain player, and it wasn't easy to deal with. So I do have experience in that. And so I look at these times, we can control what we can control.

And that's how we operate. Joe, he was in New Orleans. We're in the situation with Zion. Now, it appears to me, Joe, you correct me if I'm wrong, for you to put a clause in there like that, you believe his weight became a problem. Right.

Right. You absolutely right, huh? I don't, I think the only time they do that is when they feel like guys have weight problems, whether you've gained a substantial amount of weight over a short period of time. Okay, Ocho, because the heavier that you are in basketball, like I always talk about, it's quick transitions, it's quick sprits. Your first two to three steps in basketball mean everything. So Jalen Duren, the fact that he, that maybe his weight has gone so high,

it maybe takes away some of his activity on the court. His quickness, his durability, you know, things of that sort. So, hey, man, the thing about it is when you're really that dude, bro, they don't really put all them stipulations in there. You know what I mean? No. But I kind of understand it from time to time because you got some guys who kind of obviously need it. You know what I mean?

Just kind of stay on the, yeah, yeah, to stay on the straight and straight narrow. But during don't strike me as a guy who needs a weight cause, Uncle Ocho. He has a nice man's body. You feel what I'm saying? I just think this whole situation with Jalen Duren and the Pistons, it just didn't got ugly. Oh, that old Joe. It didn't got ugly.

After the trade contracts hasn't met Duren's expectations, and obviously here, the Pistons feel like it's too much. I don't know what we go. It's going to fire to 284. No, I don't know what we go from here. Now, are they preparing a sign and trade to where, because it's hard bringing in a star-caliber guy like that, and he's going to be disgruntled for the season.

you don't want that, bro. You're right. You don't want that. So they got some choices to make, man. I think it's 24 hours for him to make a decision, right? They gave him 24 hours and they either take this one-year deal or sign the five-year deal. But if my thing is, Joe, if he, what he thinks is, I'm assigned a five-year deal knowing that I'm being at the table in three. Yeah.

Yeah. But you got to, hey, that's a hell of a bang, though, when you consider the fact that he's really not an, offensive threat like that. He's your muscle. You know what I mean? He's your muscle. He's their gritting grind guy that you got to have in that post interior because in the east to east think about it. You got Carleton towns. You got MB. Like you got guys who are who you going to who you're going to have to challenge for that Eastern conference. Yonis and Bam. Oh yeah. Yonison bam is going to. Hey, the Eastern got real different this year. Yeah, Ocho.

Hey, it's a whole different story, boy. I've been watching the training camp stuff too, man. Hey, everybody ought to a pretty good start. You know, it's early. Everybody going to feel good. By the time everybody lead training camp, everybody going to have a little nicknacks, they're going to be sore as hell, boy. But the question is, Joe, it seems like Detroit is unwilling to go to 284.

Right. Now, are you willing to roll the dice, take a one-year $10 million deal with the hopes I don't know if I would I don't really like to speak on the man's money but I'm taking the 200 million and I'm saying I'm going to play my ass off in three years y'all come back and see me

man listen I'm a hey I'll come with you I'm taking the 200 you take you taking this Joe yeah I'm taking 200 Ocho he's a good player Ocho don't give me wrong I like

like any team I'm playing all you you got to have a guy like him but them guys don't make that type of money, bro. But the fact that he's a bruiser, a hard-working blue-collar guy in Detroit, that's their makeup, bro. That's who they are. You know what I mean? He fits. He fits with that city. So it's going to, it's hard, man. It's hard because the Eastern got better. So you give him $200 million. Now you got all this money tied up between him and Kay. Hell, he's going to have to produce. We need, we need good productivity from him in order for us

to be at the top of the East again. Hold on. He had good. He had good. He had good productivity during the regular season last year, but 90, he was averaging 19 a game. Well, Ocho, the East has gotten better. Hell, Bruin over here, Kaua over here. We got, hey, Yonis over here in Miami. Like, New York, I mean, the Detroit Pistons was the number one scene in the Eastern Conference last year.

Hey, man, I don't think nobody got them being number one this year. Wait, no. It's impossible for them to be number one when he's going to be number one. So I understand exactly what you're coming from with that. He got a guard in Miami, he got to guard Bam or Janus. And in Philadelphia, he got a guard and bead. Hey, you might. I agree.

You know, Mitchell Robinson is not an offensive threat, but Mitchell Robinson is a big body. Yeah. That eats up a lot of space. Yeah. Yes, sir. It's a prime defender. Now, the question is, can he get him in file trouble

and get him out the game? But then you come back with Quaida. They got some hardworking dudes in Boston. Oh, okay, Ocho. They got some hardworking dudes. Like, man, the East is going to be different. My thing is, Ocho, I'm taking that first contract so I can secure the family. Right.

He 22, man. I secure the family. And then, and then I come back in, like I said, in three years. Because, bro, I, hold on, think about this. What if he doesn't want to gamble? What if he wanted to take that chance? That he doesn't want to take that chance. And he wants that 284 because those three years, what happens if he gets hurt?

If he gets hurt. He gets $200 million. What happens if he get hurt? he took the $10 million contract. You think he'll still see a $284? Or to expedite the process and not have any issues on the back end, give me my $284, which I'm eligible for, and we'll worry about everything else on the back end.

But see, the thing is it's the same. He's going through the same thing Joy Porter Jr. is. Joy Porter Jr. think because his contract is up, he's in a, I don't look, I don't think anybody, and that's just me, but I don't think anybody in NFL look at him, as a pastor Tain, a Christian Gonzalez, a Stingley, a Quinyan, I don't think they look at Joy Porter like that. Do you look at Joy Porter like that, Ocho?

I mean, no, no, he's very good at what he does. But because his contract is up, and he saw all these other guys get that, what does he think? The market is the market. This is Jalen Durrance thinking. He's thinking, with my contract is up. I made third team, all NBA, and a lot of that had to do with a lot of guys got,

didn't meet the quota. So you got booked on the 13. So I don't look at him as a Supermax player. I don't. It ain't my money. But I don't look at him. Supermax players, those are guys that are reserved.

That's a Yokic. That's an ant man. That's a shape. That's a Luca. You looking at him like that? No. A, FYI, since you just mentioned Joey Porter,

he just got traded to the Cowboys. Get out of him. Hey, Joe, I would lie to you before I lied. What are you seeing that at, man? Where are you seeing that at? No, I'm for real. The Steelers and Cowboys are finalizing deals sending cornerback Joy Porter Jr. to Dallas.

I wouldn't allow to you, Joe. Hey, Uncle, Cho, think about this, too. Unc, you see it? Uh-uh. Yeah, Tom, Tom Pillarasso. Tom Pelliserio? Yeah, I'm surprised. Adam Schaeft didn't get that first.

Hmm. Think about this. What if Jalen Duren doesn't really? really love the game of basketball like that. He's just trying to capitalize on as much money as he can make on this deal. Because I don't know, man, I think for a guy who really truly loves the game,

200Ms, bro. I mean, what we're talking about? I'm 22 years old, Uncle Ocho. Boy, I'm going right back. You, 284. You mean to tell me I can get my 284 and then come back three years later and hit you across the head again?

No, you can't get 284. because they ain't gave it to you. They tell you, they say you get 200 or you can take 10 million and roll the dice. Damn. Somebody going to have to budge and it ain't going to be the player. I can tell you that. What do you mean?

I'm going to be the player. Because I got his right for another year. Ojo, you're going to go into the season and play it one year? Yeah, no. It's stacked as the east and conference is. The chances of y'all finishing number one in the east like y'all did last year, man that's that's slim bro I don't know if I'm taking I ain't taking I'm gonna keep it

real for 200 I'm signing that I'm not taking no risk I ain't taking that risk not that kind of you know the risk I'm gonna take I'm gonna take this 200 and boy I'm talking about when I come back in two three to four year I sure hope y'all got that damn brink truck ready you hear me yeah come gonna cut up I'm gonna they might play with it might play with him too I not if he not and a A hey not if they and got to the final, at least gotten to the finals. Now, they ain't, they ain't gonna play with you. And if they don't, and if they don't get there, then what?

Well, he wouldn't work the 284 because he didn't help him get there. Right. Remember, you saw him in the postseason, right? Yeah, he's seen him. He knows what going. Yeah. Don't let that man play crazy. You saw him.

I'm playing crazy, but now you understand. You're worth an Aiton. Now you understand why he won 284. I know, but you understand now why they don't want to give it to him. That was a good one. I'm just based on what I see. Like I said, I think Supermax contracts should be, and I get it, you make an all-NBA team or you an MVP.

I get that, a defensive player of the year. Excuse me. I just don't see that. I don't see that in him. I'm not saying that he shouldn't get his money. I believe he should get his money. Based on what I've seen, I ain't given him. a Super Max contract because I don't believe he's a Super Max player.

That's just me. Hey, hey, look. And Detroit don't want to do it neither. That's why I take it so damn long. Let's not be crazy, okay? Yeah. They don't want to have to be in a super. Nah.

All the, all the players. Hey, think about it. They didn't do. J. Dub ain't have to wait. Paulo Van Carroll didn't have to wait. Chet didn't have to wait. Ain't none of them. They slapped that 2.30, 240 out there like it was nothing.

Them superstars, though. Oh. Tada. Hey, you consider Shet the superstar? No, I'm saying he didn't get, he got, he got a, he got a, he got a, what you call him? He got a 240. He didn't get to 284. Right.

And he didn't get to, you know, I think, he all think he had, I don't think he got to trade, the 15% trade kicker. I think there's some things that he gave because he's like, man, I ain't fit to roll no dice based on my history. Yeah. And I came in and got injured. Right. Okay.

give him 240 then I talk to him him 240 we good I think they'll drew the line I think they don't drew the line in the saying where they're going with it what did the man say he said hey take her to leave it oh yeah they they they're tired of going back and forth well he gonna come in and have a back problem like Joey Porter then that's all right

guess what he'll have a back problem making 10 million you ain't gonna have no back problem making 200 That's what that's what we are with this, Oh Joe. I'm not to look for me. I'm not, I'm not turning down to one of a million because that's an opportunity to secure my family forever. Man, what is we talking about?

In 25, I'll be right back. To run the risk of signing a 10, a 10 million dollar deal. No. Right. No. But okay, that's here. Mm-hmm. That's on him.

I don't. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't see the Detroit budget. They say, okay, we'll take the weight clause. But you see, they say they take the weight clause. Now, they could add another $20 million to it, say, okay, we do $5 or $2.20. Well, right now we're playing a waiting game. We're going to see who's going to budge, who going to blink. We're going to see who bluffing.

Yeah, who bluffing? Because, hey, Jaylon Duren might just take this thing to the brink. He might just play this one year. I mean, that's on him. I wouldn't do it. That's me. I ain't in this shoes It's hard to walk away

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