Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Nick Saban dodges NIL, Paul vs. Tyson, Ocho's Dungeon

Episode Date: March 8, 2024

Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss the real reason Nick Saban retired from Alabama, predict who will win the Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson fight, & much more! 01:45 - NIL ran our Nick Saban 12:00 - Paul vs. Tyson 30:00 - Nightcap After Dark (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)      #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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When he first came out, they didn't even retire. Nick Saban says NIL money and transfer portal influenced his retirement. Saban says I thought we could have a hell of a team next year and then maybe 70-80% of the players you talk to and all they want to know are two things. What's the insurance do I have that I'm going to play? Because they're thinking about transferring and how much money

are you going to pay me? Saban questioned whether the new goal for college football players might be to make as much money in college as possible and said that wasn't necessarily wrong. I'm not saying it's a bad. I'm not saying that's bad, but it wasn't what propelled his team to success over the years. The way he sees it, the driver has always been personal development, academic achievement,

and preparing for the NFL. Right. I mean, I told you when it it first came out when he said he was going to retire or there were rumblings of him going to retire he can't compete now it evens the playing field now that nil has come into play and let's say there was nil before just nobody talked about it yeah nobody said it everything was done under the table yeah when everybody wanted everybody want to go play everybody want to go play at alabama because you're gonna challenge your charge out the deal not guys driving lambos and ferraris hey so again what comes into play now

for me coach saving i believe in your coaching i believe in your system you should believe in your players don't walk away from the game now. Now that the playing field is even. Why do that? Don't do that. Because at the NFL, at the NFL level, everybody gets a check each week, don't they? Right. But you still got to coach them up and get them boys prepared to play every Saturday.

It's the same thing. But you see, it's different now. Oh, because you're not getting the best players. Is that the problem? But see, here's the same thing. But you see, it's different now. Oh, because you're not getting the best players. Is that the problem? But see, here's the thing. In college, the coach always had the authority because the college coach made way more. Well, the players weren't supposed to be making anything,

but they're making money. See, in the NFL, you can't talk to a player in the NFL like you can a 17, 18-year-old kid. That's a grown-ass man. A lot of times he's married with kids, so you can't mofo him like you can a college kid. You see, a college kid is trying to get to where

that NFL player already is. So what you going to do, threaten him? He already in the NFL. What you going to say, bad things about him? I'm already here. See, college kids, they're like, man, he might say something bad about me. He might, the scouts come, he might say I'm difficult to work with. And see, that's the label.

I get that. You know what I'm saying? The thing on me, Shannon's difficult to work with. And I had a meeting today. I'm not going to get too much in it. I said, you know what? If I say I'm worth $100 and somebody tried to pay me $20, you're damn right I'm difficult to work with because I ain't taking that bull jive.

See, that's the way they turn it. I say, well, I think I'm worth this. Well, we'll pay you this. Nah, I'm good. Well, he's kind of difficult to work with. Oh, really? Because I won't take your low ball long for I'm difficult to work with. You see how they put that?

You see how they can spin it and make you look bad? Damn. Well, damn, I ain't really heard nobody else. And they don't put too much thought into that. Well, damn, ain't nobody else ever said Shannon was difficult to work with. I ain't never, you know, he played 14 years in the league in Baltimore and never, never said anything. His old job at CBS never said anything.

I've never heard anybody say anything bad about shit. Right, right, right, right. Oh. You know, they're always going to lowball you now. But the college coaches, who you think they're going to ask? They're going to come up, hey, oh, you're a college coach. Okay, Coach Johnson,

what's a sharp like? I mean, he's a good player now. Yeah. He's not the hardest worker. You know, if I make sure I keep him eligible, you see, all the time. Come on, damn. When scouts would come, hey, Bill, what's that sharp boy?

I'd be sitting in the office because I worked in Coach Davis' office. They didn't know that was me they was asking about. What's that sharp fella like? Coach Davis said, tapes on the desk. Hell, you ain't going to believe anything I tell you anyway. Right. That's how they do it. So the players now, okay, what you got for your boy?

Mm-hmm. It ain't good enough Ocho it ain't good enough now right to give me five thousand can you build mama house because see back in the day Ocho with things was really bad they told a story one time of what Chip Banks, the great linebacker out of Augusta, Georgia, he ended up playing at USC. They told a story. I don't know if it's true or not. They said that his mom needed a refrigerator and a washing dryer.

Right. But the school that brought the refrigerator and the washing dryer, he didn't go there. They said, well, why didn't he go to the school that brought his mom a and dryer and a refrigerator? He said the other school built a house around it. So now NIL, that's probably fabrication. But you see, Ocho,

somebody going to give me a million dollars. You're going to give me $200,000. Where do you think I'm going, bro? My family ain't got bread like that. Right. And we talk about Alabama right we talk about Alabama has the system the boosters and the money to continue to compete not like NIL going on not like Texas not like USC Texas got all money. Right.

Okay. I see you. I see you going with that. They got, they can't compete like that. But here's the thing. Oh, Joe.

Okay. You could compete, but you won't give me three 50. He going to give me seven 50. Where you going? Oh, Joe, you a 17, 18 year old kid.

Hmm. Hmm. It makes sense. You a 17, 18 year old kid. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. It makes sense. Yeah, I know. Hey, if I was a five star coming out and I got a choice. Yeah, I'm going to the hospital because I'm getting my grandma. I'm getting my family out of this bull job situation. Right.

Ain't no more spam. Ain't no more deli meat. Ain't no more buying the sausages. Ain't no more sandwiches. No, hell no. Ain't no more spam. Ain't no more deli meat. Ain't no more buying the sausages. Ain't no more sandwiches. No, hell no. Ain't no more wish sandwiches. Got two pieces of bread.

Damn. I wish I had some meat in here. You close them up. Oh, hell no. No, no. We about to eat good.

Right. Hey, Grady. Ain't no more cleaning no houses. Yeah, but I just, I mean, I just,

just running, running from it, running from it like that and just quitting and folding. One of the greatest coaches of all time. He the greatest college coach? The greatest coach,

the greatest college coach of all time. The two, think about it, Ocho, the two greatest college coaches of all time, both coached at the same school, Coach Bryant and Coach Saban.

Mm-hmm. They got 13, well, they got 12 between the two of them. Coach Saban. Mm-hmm. They got 13 championships. Well, they got 12 between the two of them. Coach Saban won one at LSU. But they got 12 national championships just between two coaches. Man, that's crazy.

Coach Saban lost in a title game twice, and he lost in the college football playoffs another two or three times. So, theoretically, a man could have 10, 11 championships. Easy. I mean, he lost one on the final second. Deshaun beat him on the final play of the game. Damn. I mean, I understand him. He don't want to compete with the NIL.

But again, you still are the greatest coach of all time. I would have rolled it out. I would have rolled it out. I'm going to show y'all. I'm going to show y'all why I'm the greatest coach of all time. Because even with the NILs in place, even with players choosing to go to other schools, we still going to get the motherfucking job done. Because goddammit, bitch, roll tide.

Yeah, but the thing is, Ocho, you can only keep losing so many guys. Think about how many guys. Them guys ain't nobody staying till they see you. Them redshirt sophomores and them juniors, they gone. Right. The Calvin Reelies, the Julios, the Jared Judys, the Ruggs, the Waddles, they gone. Right, right. Look at them running back.

And the thing was, Ocho, you got to get on because ain't no guarantee you're going to have that job. Because them young boys hungry. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Them young boys hungry. You got to get up out of there. Because I stay another year. God beat me out there. There young boys hungry. You got to get up out of there. Cause I stay another year. God beat me out there.

It's my opportunity. Them DTs that he was rolling with. The Quinny Williams and the Allens. Yeah. They gone. Yes. Them DBs gone. The funny thing, it used to be when all them boys left,

it was some coming up right behind them too yes every time yes every time it was always something coming up right behind them i want you know what but here's the thing to ocho coach saban can say the one i can guarantee you three things you're gonna play for an scc title you're gonna play for a national you're gonna play you're going to play for an SEC title. You're going to play for a national, you're going to play, you're going to win. You're going to play for the SEC title. You're going to play for a national championship. I'm going to guarantee you those. And I get you to the,

I'm going to get you to the league. They say now that ain't good enough. I need you to guarantee me one to $2 million. And can we still play for that? Cause it's like, Ocho, if I go to school, the way I looked at it when I went to Savannah State, hell, if I'm here for four years, I might as well graduate, get my degree.

They say, okay, if I got to come here, and I'm going to go to the NFL, I might as well make as much money as I can while I'm here. So what's the problem, Ocho? If I got to stay three years, I go ahead and make me $3-4 million to get up out of here. That's good money. Mama straight. I don't know what's going problem, Ochoa? If I got to stay three years, I go ahead and make me $3, $4 million to get up out of here. That's good money. Mama straight.

I don't know what's going to happen in the NFL. Right. But I know I already got $3, $4 million. Mm-hmm. I ain't mad at the kids. Get that money. Is it funny? Y'all, everybody think about how many kids, how many, man, college has been running a racket for the longest time.

See, college, the difference between all, you know what college is? It's the farm system for the NFL. Yeah. That's all it is. See, the minor league is the baseball farm system. That's the baseball farm system. College is football and basketball farm system. I get to look at you, Ocho.

Get looking for three, four years. Right. Against the best competition, depending on where you go to school. Yeah. So now these guys are like, oh, no, I got to get this. Hey, three, four, five, six, five million dollars. Five million dollars

for an 18-year-old, Ocho. Everybody, not all of them now. In order to command that top dollar, you got to be that boy. You got to be that boy. We talk about coming into a college and changing. Even if you ain't that boy. Ocho, these kids transferring, they're already getting $150,000 to $200,000. Think about you 17, 18 years old, what Ocho would have did with 150, 200 thousand.

Man, we was happy to get that. I was happy my grandma sent me five to $20. Yeah. Can you imagine 150 thousand? Yeah. Hey, times are different. I kept me by four or five of them. I kept me four or five of them.

Oh, yeah, baby. Man, please. Ocho Mike Tyson is set to fight Jake Paul in a boxing match at AT&T Stadium in July. The main event card will take place July 20th on Netflix. Jake Paul has a professional

record of 9-1, which includes six knockouts. His most recent fight was a first-round TKO of Ryan Borland last Saturday in Puerto Rico. Tyson, who turned 58 in June, will turn 58 in June, won 50 total fights in his career,

44 coming via knockout. He last fought in the exhibition against Roy Jones in 2020, which ended in a draw. Who you taking? What you mean who I'm taking? You got Jake or Tyson. Who you got?

I asked you. I know I want to know who you got. Oh, your man, who you got? You got Jake Paul. Say that. I'm just, I got Mike. Who you got?

You think it's going to go to distance? I don't know. I'm, they, they probably doing eight rounds, right? No, I think they better.

I don't think Michael, I don't think Michael, Mike, they go, he going to be like, what you call him? Mike, he going to be like him and Roy.

Mike ain't going to turn up. No, he'll not. You can't turn up. Listen, even at, have you seen Mike hit the mitts? There's footage,

right? There's footage from last year or maybe when he was 57. It don't matter how old it was. I've seen Mike hit the mitts. Yeah. The power ain't went nowhere. The power ain't went nowhere. The power ain't went nowhere. No, no, no, no, no.

I don't think he will. I don't think he's going to turn up. No, he can't. Because of the ring experience that Mike Tyson has, if he was to turn up and approach the fight as if it's one of his fights when he was in his 20s, his 30s, even his 40s, that can be very, very overwhelming for someone that's even been doing it as long as jake paul has who's taking this shit really serious right what he's done for the sport of boxing to me is commendable many might laugh about it many might say uh it's it's it's a shame what he's done he's done a good thing for the sport of boxing he has he's made it exciting he's made for those that actually like it because it's hard for those in the actual boxing world for us to get the fights that we want to see.

You don't want to fight Ocho. If I let me ask you a question, Ocho. Yes, sir. If you could make twenty five million fighting somebody you know you could be right. Would you rather take fight for a championship title and make ten million or take 25 million and know somebody you can beat? Take 25, of course. Thank you. That's what it all comes down to. Some of the best fighters are not able to get the fights

that we want to see because it's high risk, low reward. Thank you. High risk, low reward is from the money end. But again, listen, I love... I'll fight a dangerous guy.

You want me to fight a dangerous guy? Oh, very, very dangerous. Very dangerous. That's why some of the fighters stand away. I feel very comfortable and I'm going to fight anything that can happen. But I feel if I make my best that night, I got a 90% chance of winning. I'm taking that $25 million. I ain't fighting him.

I like what Jake has done. He's been in the ring with some competition, but none to the likes of what Mike has been able to do. like i like i like what jake has done he's been in the ring with some some some competition but none to the likes of what mike has been nothing like he's a professional he's a he's retired but he's he's still got skills listen even at 57 even at 58 if you watch mike train you already know that's hell to deal with even for a younger Jake, even for a young Jake who is very polished now and he's been doing it

for a long time and taking it extremely serious. I commend him. That body shot. Man, that joke hit you. Man, that joke, Mike's talking to hit you with that uppercut

and hit you like Rock'em Sock'em Robot. Remember Rock'em Sock'em Robot? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what the scary part is? The scary part is, for me, for Jake,

Jake has to be able to fight on the inside because where Mike don't fight. I ain't going on the inside. You watch your damn mind. You don't have a choice. Mike fights. Mike don't fight from a distance. Mike fights on the inside.

Oh, you going to jab him the whole time? I got to keep him up off me. And what's the one thing Mike already do? Hands right here and coming in. Coming in, coming in. And you know he gonna do one thing. That goddamn hook. That goddamn hook to the body.

And coming up to... Man, listen. Alright, listen. Back with double tap. Listen, I love Jake. You just gotta be able to keep your distance, keep that jab out there and if Mike I know I guarantee you

I don't think Mike is gonna do it I don't think Mike is gonna apply pressure if he applies pressure and he approaches this fight like as he's in his 20s or his 30s it can be overwhelming nah he ain't gonna do that it can be overwhelming

but I'm excited I'm excited for Jake man I'm excited for Jake hell shit matter of fact this would be perfect it'd be overwhelming. I'm excited. I'm excited for Jake, man. I'm excited for Jake. Hell, shit. Matter of fact, this would be perfect. This would be a perfect opportunity for me to get back

in the ring too, man. Me and Andre Ward. Man, I've been calling out Ward for about a year now, man. Man, look here. What you think? You call him on the phone and say you sorry.

Man, knock your ass out. I need you for next year. Nah, I'm just knock who out man audrey warhead you catch you one time and next thing you know we at super bowl 60 nah i'm good i'm ready i'm ready i'm ready i'm ready man who says that's a professional i'm a professional what the fuck you talking about you're a professional bull job now it's one thing is one thing you can't play, and that's boxing. No, you can't play a contact sport.

No, no, no, no, no, no. You can't. You can't. I respect them boys. I love them. No, you can't play fight. There ain't no play fighting. No, ain't none of that.

This is my official call out. Andre, if you want this smoke let me know we can get on that undercard huh like Fred Sampo used to say you gonna be with the undertaker huh you gonna be with the undertaker

that's fine I'm gonna get in there and do what other people don't want to do I'm actually fight everybody don't nobody want to fight I want to do. I'm going to actually fight. Don't nobody want to fight. I want to fight. You do realize the throw punches, you open yourself up to take shots, right? That's fine. You ever see somebody punch

like this? As long as I'm going to keep the phone right here, that's all that matter. I'm going to stay on the phone. I'm going to stay on the phone every time. I'm going to let go. You're going to tuck the damn elbow in. You're going to tuck the elbow in because you're going to make your ass pee on yourself. Oh, it's tucked in. I got to

protect my ribs now. Exactly. I got to protect my ribs. Yeah. I'm ready. I'm ready. Matter of fact, it's probably going to happen. Me versus war. You're going to be ringside. You're going to be ringside. Matter of fact, my trunk's going to say nightcap. And you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to have me a big ass white beach towel because I got a feeling I'm going to be really sad. Matter of fact, my trunk's going to say nightcap. And you know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to have me a big ass white beach towel because I got a feeling I'm going to have to throw that big old fuck in. Trust me. Trust me, you're not. Trust me, you're not. Oh, Lord have mercy. Trust me, you're not. Dre, let's get this work, baby. Dre, I know you're going to see this. Dre, let's get in that thing and thump. What? Get the people what they want.

No, we don't want that. We don't want to see you get hurt. I ain't going to get hurt. I need you, Ojo. I ain't going to get hurt. I got this, man. You got to believe in me, man. You talk about get hurt. I'm doing this for myself. I can't tell you from them

from them. No, but I got them. That'd be fun. jerry i know you're gonna see this jerry i love you baby oh sure all i ask if you go back in the ring don't end up like nate robinson that's all no no no no no no shit listen i got i got knocked down my last fight and got right back he got knocked down and stayed down ain't no problem getting knocked down and getting up. But you can't get planted. You can't get face planted. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Nah, nah. And then you know it's bad.

You know it's bad about our last fight. Actually, it's not bad. It's good. I went in there on two weeks of training. You got a good punch there, don't you? You got it. You knocked him down. Hey, listen. Man, I was in that thing. Thornham thing. Why? You heard me? I was in that Thornham thing. I got him down. Hey, hey, listen. Man, I was in that thing. Throwing them things, boy. You heard me?

I was in that throwing them thing. I got tired that fourth round. Oh, yeah. For sure. Hey, it ain't no time. Hey, it ain't no time out. Ain't no nothing. Them arms get heavy.

But who you telling? Why you think my arms are by my side? Two weeks. That's it. I jumped in there two weeks. Imagine if I get three months of training in there, huh? Mm-hmm. Shit. I jumped in there two weeks. Imagine if I get three months of training in there, huh? Mm-hmm. Shit.

Well, your boy's special now. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide.

And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General. I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra,

you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Devin Booker to be featured,

to be featured in Call of Duty, Duty Modern Warfare 3. What video game would you want to be in Ocho? FIFA, EAFC, of course. And listen, Devin Booker is not the first one.

Kevin Durant. I was playing with Kevin Durant, um, as well. Kevin Durant was I was playing with Kevin Durant as well. Kevin Durant was in there, I think, maybe three or four seasons ago. I used to run with Kevin Durant, but the goddamn skin, he too goddamn tall. I was the easy target on Call of Duty. Yeah, for sure. I want to be in Grand Theft Auto.

Okay. I don't play Grand Theft Auto, but Grand Theft Auto was good. You know, I sit there when I stream. I always watch Sauce. Sauce Gardner and Chase. Yeah. Oh, boy, they be playing Grand Theft Auto. I don't understand.

What's the concept of Grand Theft Auto? Hey, I just want to be the bad guy. Pick up me a couple of girls that have the shootout. That's all I do. I just feel one time where the dude picked up the chick, picked up the prostitute, had the shootout with the cop.

Yeah. Hey, sign your boy up. That's all I want to do. I better learn how to start playing. See, I never understood Grand Theft Auto. I just see people driving around. All the times I done watched Jason, Jamar Jason and Sauce play, I ain't seen one shootout.

They always going to buy something, or they all sitting in a group talking. No, hell no. I want to shoot out. I want to get into it. I want to get all that talking. It ain't no talking. I'm coming out.

Y'all already know. I'm coming to steal something. Robbing a bank. The billion-stone liquor store. I'm robbing something. I'm like, Denzel, I'm leaving to steal something. Robbing a bank. Right. A billion-dollar liquor store. I'm robbing something. Oh, man. I'm like Denzel. I'm leaving with something.

Hey, I ain't going to wait. I ain't going to wait. If they had it. So, nah. Hell, nah. That's what I want to be. Grab that. Grab that photo.

Hey, I would love that. So, what that? That GTA 6 now? I don't even know which one. I don't even know which one they own. 6. Grab that 6. They don't find know what you're talking about. I don't even know what you're talking about. Six, Grand Theft Auto. They're on five.

Six coming out next year. Put your boy in that thing. Yeah, I want an EASC. If I could be on it. It got to be in the soccer game. All right. Speaking of college, do you know Nicki Minaj on there?

Is she? Yeah, Nicki Minaj got her skin. She's all pink with the pink hair. What's her name? I don't understand. I didn't call it COD. So let me ask you a question. So what's the objective?

In COD? Yeah. It depends on what you play. They have different games you can play. You can play quads. You can play before people. And obviously, you land out the plane. When you land, you get as much guns and stuff you need.

You team up with people. You can buy UAVs to find out where people are. You have scavengers. You have bounties. There's so many different things you could do. And you got to eliminate the other teams until the map shrinks. It shrinks little by little, and you want to be the other teams until and the map shrinks it shrinks little by little and you want to be the last man standing basically well if you're a team how dare you

gonna be last man you want your team to be last your team be the last man standing i say last man standing because i always play solos okay yeah it's fun it's fun have you ever won i've won a few i've won a few i i play rank so it's a little difficult when i ever won? I've won a few. I've won a few. I play ranked, so it's a little difficult when I play ranked, but I've won a few. Why are they difficult? If you like that, you ain't good. There are some pros and some people that have been doing this since they were four years old when you play ranked. And they good now. I'm not going to say a lie.

Now, FIFA. Now, we talk about EAFC. I'm the best in the world. I'm the greatest. I'm the greatest EA the best in the world. I'm the greatest. I'm the greatest EAFC player in the world. And that's a fact. And that goes for anybody

in the chat. Anybody in the chat that plays EAFC want they ass whooped, let me know. Nelly says his era of music was the toughest era of hip-hop ever. He claimed it was much harder to sell records of the rapper back then when he was first coming out than at all other times

in a genre's history. My music era was the toughest in the hip hop. When I put out songs, I had to go against DMX, Jay-Z, Eminem, Lil Wayne, 50, Luda, all of us fighting for one spot.

That's a fact. that's a fact that's a fact yeah I'm too man listen then you throw Kanye in that mix Kanye 50 cent Jay-z oh yeah MDMX Lil Wayne hold on remember when DMX had the concert I think was in Africa you remember that he got on the red overalls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It looked like the whole goddamn world was out there. Yep. Man, during that era, it was very difficult to sell. It was very difficult to sell. But I think the good thing for Nelly is his sound. Yeah. The sound of his music was its own. So i think that's why he was able to succeed

during that time man who ran that era you think 50 cent might have ran that era huh 50 50 and jay oh man m m wasn't nothing to play with yeah m wasn't nothing to play with listen 50 had a run though man oh yeah 50 had a run though, man. Oh, yeah, 50 was right. 50 had a run back then, man. I mean, DMX was like the 90s, bled into the 2000s. Into the 2000s, yeah. M cornered the market. M cornered the market in 2000. Yeah, yeah. So.

You know, his music, I don't even think today Eminem's music from back then He would get cancelled but some of the things he brought the bow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Oh, yeah, you have to obviously you have to like today. I mean even Ja Rule was in there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, yeah job job has some hits I had some hit. Yeah. Oh, yeah Obviously every Oh Joe all the stuff if you back, go back and look at sitcoms. Man, Archie Bunker, they saying the N-word. The gentleman, they saying the N-word. The E-R, not no A-G-G-A.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. E-R. Big time. Yeah. They saying all kind of stuff back there. Man, hey, you say that one time on TV now, you gone. That show gone. Your show ain't coming on no more.

You out of there. Listen, I think people need to go back and chat. If I chat, I need you to do me a favor. Speaking of that, go back and watch All in the Family. Yeah. Go back and watch All in the Family, but a specific episode, a specific episode when Sammy Davis Jr. was on there. And I want you to see how TV was back then. Yeah.

I don't have to see. I lived through it man listen well you'd be like what the hell they used to let this air today yes come on cancel the jefferson george jefferson saying whatever came whatever came up came out uh-huh oh listen and the funny thing about it is tv i hate to say this but it was very it was very interesting it was very entertaining back then yeah yeah it was very very entertaining back then very entertaining uh oh joe what which is the best piece of the brownie there's a picture going viral of people selecting their desired brownie brownie piece now it depends it

depends on who cooked the goddamn brownie because it depending on who cooked the whoever cooked the brownie as long as they don't burn the ends or the corners yeah the corners in the middle is

the best see I don't know who did it the corners in the corners in the middle is the best that's what now I'm not I probably eaten I probably eaten in the last 15 20 years probably two brownies i've had one in the last seven months so that just i'm not a brownies got brownie and cupcake yeah i mean when i was good when i was in in middle in elementary and middle

school like middle mainly elementary school right such and such brought some brownies i don't know damn brownie right right real slice of cake listen cake the middle if if someone that knows how to bake and they don't burn the edges and the edges aren't hard man the corner in the middle is the die for and i'm the middle guy i just i just heard you say cupcakes i don't know where you in la so i know y'all have y'all have ralph's but here in miami yeah we have public'slix has the best cupcakes. I don't know what they put in them goddamn cupcakes. They so goddamn good. No, Publix got that fried chicken.

You ever had Publix fried chicken? What you know about Publix fried chicken? Man, I go get them four wings and that mac and cheese. What you know about Publix chicken, man? You know I'm from the South, right? Hey, listen. Something about the chicken, man? You know I'm from the South, right? Hey, listen. Something about the chicken from Publix and they got these cupcakes.

I don't know what... Hey, I don't know what they... Now, I don't know what they find that chicken in. Y'all know... Hey, if y'all from... They got Publix out here? I think Publix might be a South thing. Y'all got Vons and Ralphs.

Yeah. And Gelson's. Who? Gelson's. That? Gelson's. That must be something new. No. But that public chicken? Yeah.

Them wings? Yeah. Hey, and I want to say, hot. How long? And they say, well, we just dropped it. We just dropped the bat. So it's going to take about, don't worry about it. I'm right here.

I just go walk. I mosey around the aisles and stuff. You're going to wait, huh? I want them coming out to grease. They take that machine, that thing, bring them up out of that thing, they bring them up and sit that thing over the top, let that grease trip up out of them.

I don't let too much. Go put them in that styrofoam plate. Four wings. That's classic right there. Like I said, if I were to eat brownies and I'm not a brownies guy, I want the middle. Yeah, the middle is good, man. But them goddamn corners, them corners. For someone that knows how to bake the right way, them corners special.

Special. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Man, ain't nothing like... Man, a woman that can cook... Yeah. Get all my little bit of money. The funny thing about it

is cooking is really not a prerequisite of mine. I could care less. It ain't a prerequisite of mine. But man, I didn't know she cooked. Just being able to do it is cool.

I was asleep. I'm like, damn. She didn't even tell you she was going to cook? No. Okay. Come downstairs, you got you making pancakes and waffles and bacon and eggs. Come on, man.

Yeah. Hey, she better have me around here. Bo Hog Fat. Man, I said, nah, you got to cook some oatmeal. She's like, I'm not getting no effing oatmeal. Ocho, check this out. Now it's time for the fan favorite. This is called Nightcap Out the Dark.

Oop. Now it's time for the fan favorite. This is called Nightcap Out the Dark. Ooh. Hello. Study says Americans are having sex to save on heating bills amid the surging utility costs. Wait a minute. Y'all just nasty. Y'all just doing that. That ain't because no bills. Bring that to me again. Americans are having sex to save on heating bills

amid surging utility costs. So are they saying you're having sex so you don't have to turn the heat on? Yeah, so you turn the heat. That don't make no sense, huh? Yeah, you brought me this friction. That friction, you making heat.

Oh, Joe, damn. Yeah, but, shoot, sex don't even last that long. Now, two, three minutes, ain't nothing going to be hot. Hey, just about you turn up the RPM. Oh, okay. So you're saying like sex at 90 miles an hour. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Now we're talking.

Now you're making a little sense to me. We in Miami, huh? It's already hot. It's already hot, so I'm assuming maybe... We need a door open. Yeah, this might be for the states where it's cold. It must be. Yeah.

It don't matter to me. I turn the rpm but yeah i'm still trying to wrap my head if you run ojo you ain't gotta run you ain't gotta run a mile you can run in place and break a sweat right right shit i don't know about that boy i can't do no i can't do no running more hill so let me run like i used to oh joe yeah man i actually i hadn't i hadn't run probably my 15 years old joe wait can you if you had to run let's say you you out somewhere and you know when you see one black person run yeah we don't ask no questions right we all start running i'm gonna be able to get out the way i'm gonna walk briskly

so you don't even know if you could run for real i try to avoid places where i might potentially have to run right I probably could. I got a bad, my knee bad. Because you know my left leg, you know I'm bowlegged in that leg. So my knee, I'm kind of like bone on bone in that knee. I got that from my grandma. My grandma was like that.

Same leg and everything. Does it bother you, the bone on bone when it's cold? Nah, it just like if I sit for a long period of time like being in a car for a long, even because most of the time I'll be the driver

arm in the back, you know, on the right because they let the seat, because like one thing like it's already in my file. Right. Mr. Sharp gets in he doesn't really like to talk please turn the radio off he don't want you don't want to listen to anything have the seat all the way to the front right so you can stretch out so that's all that's in my file what about when you when on flights you

always got to have obviously i want the aisle seat and no no bulkhead non-bulkhead correct okay okay okay okay oh man let me tell you this ocho i was on a flight joy would become we coming from dollars right and the flight attendant ocho man you know we didn't fly we didn't fly delta man and i couldn't win and jordan i don't know what jordan joy would do it but anyway she ended up letting me use her her wiFi on my phone. Oh, hotspot? No, ain't no hotspot. She put a code in. Let me use it. Okay. And let me

have internet service for a while. Wait, you was on a flight that didn't have Wi-Fi? It had Wi-Fi, but I didn't have the connect. I didn't have a, like I said, I see like Delta, I got a thing already boom, it go to uh my server i open put the thing in a gun right i was on another i was on the airline that didn't have it like that and i was like she's fumbling around i was like she's

like well what's going on i said well i can't i can't i can't get uh wi-fi. That's no problem. So she gave you her phone or she gave you the code to use her Wi-Fi? Yeah, I use her code on my phone. So, I mean, what happened after that? Because I know... Ain't nothing happened after that. I was on the internet.

I was on the internet. That's what happened. Ocho. Ocho, man, y'all didn't see. You see what happened? Every time somebody does something for you nice people everybody ain't trying to get in the bed with you i ain't saying nothing about bed i'm asking did you leave it at that did you get a phone number that no i did not get a phone number

she did a nice gesture and i greatly appreciated that. Well, you should return the gesture with an offer to dinner. I tell you what I did. I did a video. I did a video for it. I told her she could post it. That's what I did. A video? Yes. No goddamn video. The lady lets you use your Wi-Fi for four hours. You could have at least took the lady

to dinner, man. Ocho, everybody... Lord have mercy. Is that what we are, Ocho? I remember the time people used to do stuff out of the kindness of their heart. Now y'all want to quit. We don't have time to be kind. We trying to find you a wife. We trying to find you a significant other. When you have people that are blatantly letting you know, hey, I'd like to talk to you, but I'm going to take initiative since you don't by giving you my Wi-Fi. What do you think she's telling you? She's telling me that she's really nice. She recognized who I was.

She liked what I do on Nightcap with you. She loves Club Che Che. She mentioned the cat, the Monique. I just love your platform. I love what you're doing. That's what she's doing it for. So everything just went right over your head, huh? Yeah, it went right over my head.

Yeah, that's what I do. You missed it. You missed it. I ain't missed nothing. Well, I tell you, boy. I tell you, boy. Man, what kind of video? I told him I... Man, I ain't fooling with y'all, man. Come on, hey, man, I ain't

fooling with y'all, man. Man, y'all always... See, I'm glad I ain't growing up with you. See, man, I remember and I'm... Look, I've stopped. I'm not as friendly. I mean, I get...

Some people, like, when women sit next to me and they try to carry on a conversation that's the reason why I don't have a whole lot of conversation because I don't want anything to ever get misconstrued hey how you doing can you do this sign an autograph for my son sign an autograph for my husband

okay fine I'm done I don't really do no talking right because I don't want you to say well he no no no no no no no. Because I don't want you to say, well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I know it's bad, Ocho, that it's like that, but society has made me like this. You know what?

You got your freedom, Monk. You heard me? I'm going to keep it, too. Listen, you got your freedom, and I want to free you from the shackles of the imprisonment in the way you're living. You got to free yourself

it's so it's okay if the young lady blatantly is letting you know listen i watch all your stuff yeah you're not even taking a hint i watch all your stuff and you didn't even take initiative in understanding what she's trying to do and what she was trying to do she was nice and i really appreciate that i said thank you very much i got i got i gotta see i gotta send you to one of my classes you ain't gonna send me nothing you're gonna send me hey i look here i said ocho i'm telling oh see that's the ocho people don't realize like how i'm i'm from point a to point b um she's hitting on you uh that's okay she's hitting on you that's fine and i appreciate's hitting on you. That's fine. I appreciate it.

That's awful nice of us that she thought I was nice. Hold on. She thought I was a respectable young man. You know what? I forgot one thing. Something very important. How she look?

One to ten. I wouldn't... Man, look here, man. Ocho. I don't look at... Is something wrong with your eyes? You wear glasses, don't you? You got glasses on?

Ocho. Ocho. I'm not trying to meet nobody, bro. is something wrong with your eyes you wear glasses don't you you got glasses on oh cho oh cho i'm not trying to meet nobody bro i because i'm afraid listen oh cho i honestly i'm afraid like i mean i i mean you got the damn to say well shannon i'm trying i'm really trying to get at you in that aspect oh me to to approach you. So you need somebody aggressive. I'm telling you, you got to... No. Hey, ladies, if you're interested in Unk, please slide in the DM.

I'm good. I'm good. Ladies, ladies, Unk good. Be aggressive and assertive. No, I'm good. Do I like aggressive? Yes. But Unk is good.

Unk is good. Unk ain't try to... Unk in a good spot. Do I like aggressive? Yes. But I, I, I'm good. I'm good. I'm okay. Okay. Try to get a good spot. And so my antenna is super, super alert right now. So I'm taking honestly for the most part. Uh, no,

I'm good. Yeah. Good. I'm sad. Don't be sad. Don't you just can't i just i just i just can't in the spot that i'm in right now ocho i just can't have any slip-ups i don't want anybody i don't want like i told you ocho if without when like in the last six years seven eight years when somebody tell me don't call me

i'm done if you ever tell me don't call you i'm not only am i not gonna call you again i'm gonna erase your number out of my phone and i'm gonna block that number can i ask you a question yes what woman in her right mind would tell you that i mean women women get mad and i and i know women get mad and they say i don't care you tell me don't call you because you're never going to say Shannon Sharp harassed me. Shannon Sharp ain't harassed. Nothing. Shannon Sharp deleted you out of his phone and blocked that number.

And if you call me from a number I don't recognize, I'm not answering. I can't take a chance, Ocho. I can't. I just stay to myself. I just want to be left alone. I don't bother nobody. I don't talk about nobody, Ocho. I can't. I just stay to myself. I just want to be left alone. I don't bother nobody. I don't talk about nobody. I mind my business.

That's what I want. Are you truly happy living this way? I love it. It's what I've known. When I was in the league, I spent most of my time by myself. Holidays, a lot of times I spent by myself. Thanksgiving, Christmas,

I didn't go to teammates' house. I'd go to the 7-Eleven. I would get one of those sandwiches. I'd warm it up in the microwave. I'd by myself, Thanksgiving, Christmas. I didn't go to teammates house. I go to the seven 11. I would get one of those sandwich. I warm it up in the microwave. I get it, bring it home, warm it up. And that's what I did. I'm okay by myself. I don't want to bother nobody.

And I don't want nobody effing with me. That's what, see Ocho, that's why I get upset. Cause I don't understand a guy that you don't see out on the set, a guy that don't bother nobody that doesn't talk about nobody right but everybody got so much to say about me but now i understand and i'm cool with that i realized that i got more love and supporters than i got haters but i can't take a chance old show especially with women ain't no coming back from that it ain't no coming back from that old show ain't no coming back from that, Ocho.

So I would just rather err on the side of caution because what I've learned in today's society, just the mention of impropriety is enough to sway public opinion against you. I don't want to take a chance. I'm

good. Damn. I order room service, don't you? I look through that peephole. If it's a female, I take the tray at the door. A woman will not come

in my room alone. Not a chance. Zero chance. When they come to do turndown service, I don't do turndown service. I said, I'm getting ready to leave.

Hey, I'll be back in such a such a time hey here's 50 bucks they'll normally leave whatever they're doing come turn down my room or if i'm in the room and they say you like turn down service i'll go sit in the hall damn elevator come it's a single woman oh no you can get on. No, ma'am, I'm good. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Boy, you ain't bullshit, boy.

Mm-mm. I go from point A to point B. That's it. Hey, did that tell you? Hey, you better keep up. Ashley, she be jogging. Like, damn, where you going i mean she be like because she don't make jordan carry all the bags so she

i i you know i i understand obviously because of the times that we're in is very very difficult but like just i mean just i'm sitting here thinking like the way you have to live because of the times that we're in and that just that makes me sad no don't be sad for me that you can't you can't enjoy yourself i mean you consider it you say you're enjoying yourself but not being able i'm a social butterfly just the fact that you can't enjoy conversation and just engaging with just randoms like I just, I don't know, man. Because I never know what someone is

thinking. Damn. I just rather err on the side of caution. Yeah. Now, I can't think about Shannon. I think about sister brother kids mom i think about that then i think about okay as jordan people that i'm responsible for financially and making sure they stay employed so i don't think about i'm the last person i think about

i think about everybody else first that's just that's just the way my grandmother brought me raised me that i think about everybody else first. That's just the way my grandmother raised me, that I think about other people first. I don't really think about... I mean, I do more for other people. I mean, I buy a watch here or there, but if I bought me something,

you best believe my kids, my family, have gotten more than what I spent on myself. That's just the way I am. Right. But you have, you have, I just,

I just can't, I just can't take a chance. I cannot, I cannot, I try to avoid comp. I'm not arguing with you. I'm not doing it. No,

no, don't come to my house or arguing and all that foolishness. Cause you got to go. But we good on don't you? You know, being you, being you, being you, we the Vegas. I mean, you ain't want to hang out with your boy, but it's all good. Yeah, I don't hang out. You know, I don't go out.

I don't. You want to talk about me? You don't go out. I just did not that. But one going out is an expense. It's an expense. I'm willing not that I'm not going to pay because out cost at home. It don't there's nothing. But one, going out is an expense. It's an expense I'm willing that I'm not going to pay. Because out costs.

At home, it don't cost me nothing. No, it don't cost me nothing. But sometimes I like to go and let my hair down. I ain't got no hair to let down. Nah, hell nah. Oh, God damn. I don't see how you live like that, man. Shit.

I mean, but I've been like this for so long. Like, when I played, if I didn't go out with Burns, I didn't go out. Right. When he left, I didn't go out. I went out one time, and I was like, man, this ain't for me. Yeah. He came back, it was life again. Right.

When I came like Atlanta, I used to come up there. Like my homeboy bucket come up. We go out. Like I said, I haven't been to a strip club since 2007. That last time I've been to a strip club. Shoot.

I didn't, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just a homebody. I just rather be at home. Like when I go to Atlanta, Ocho, I don't even cut the TV on.

Unless it's like a Wednesday and I got to watch a game or something and Gil's not going to talk. Other than that, I just go in my room and I just sit, just lay down. Well, shoot, we both boring if that's the case. You know, I don't want to go out. I don't want to go out past 9 p.m.

And if I'm home, you already know what I'm doing. I'm on that goddamn game. Yeah. No, I just just i call my daughter say that is my daddy why are you they call i say look i'm in town now you want to go do something you want to go out okay i'll or like when i come like my son i gotta give obviously i gotta give him advance notice because he's mad with with my with my grandson but for the most part i just chill i just i just i like being alone. I really do.

And I think that's why it's hard because I've been alone for so long. It's just been, for the most part, me and the dogs for such a long, long time. But it's all good, Ocho. Check this out. A question that has been going viral. If a man proposes to his girlfriend and she says no, is the relationship over? Well, well,

why wouldn't it be over? Isn't the point of being together to re-single? Marriage? Exactly. What do we do with? I asked your hand in marriage and you tell me no, but what we doing? Shoot.

Going through the motions? Hey. Going through the motions or the fact that you just want to be able to say, oh, I have somebody, but I really don't see no future with you? I ask your hand in marriage

and you tell me no. Shit, bye. Yeah. Bye. Next. Next. Oh oh he put this on camera oh and she said

no on camera was it on camera Ash cause you know sometimes you know how they do it at the game you know

yeah sporting events in the female yeah hold on hold on she said no in public no I guess

I guess he I guess that was just a question that was asked. Oh, boy. What I was going to say, man. Come on now. Come on. But again, it all comes down to understanding and knowing who you're dealing with. Understanding and knowing who you're dealing with.

You already know because, for one, if you're in a relationship, you always ask in the beginning, what your end goal yeah what's your end goal what are you trying to do what are you trying to accomplish what do you see us three four five seven years from now so you already know what you're dealing with so he kind of set himself up if she did say no based on the question in general you got to know who you're dealing with yeah Yeah, but you mess up a good thing. Man, you know what they say, the number one killer of a woman's sex drive, you know what it is, Ocho? What?

Wedding cake. They say that'll kill a woman's sex drive quicker than anything. Yeah, they say wedding cake. Why you say that? You serious? I'm over here dying, man. Yeah, they say that's the number one kill off sex drive for a woman wedding

cake so wait a minute now come on now you got me got me okay so we just ain't gonna have no cake okay I don't know how you gonna pull that one off

cause that's a dream how that gown on we ain't gonna have no cake. Okay. I don't know how you gonna pull that one off. Because that's a dream. Have that gown on. Have that big old cake. Have a six-tier, seven-tier cake. That's what they say. They say we ain't can't kill a sex drive.

Listen, you just told me about statistics and analytics. Ain't that what we use in the NFL now? Analytics and statistics? Well, I'm going to use it too and we ain't having no cake

shit you think you think i ain't even getting me none yeah no cake appreciate that uh nicky asked do you prefer to be dominant or submissive in the bedroom what's your feeling on toys well me i have i'm glad you asked i have a dungeon i i have a dungeon i'm listen we family nightcap we family and i i see all of you as family and and to let you into my my my privacy i have a dungeon similar to that of of christian gray if you saw the movie 50 shades of gray i have my own dungeon of toys and and and i'm 25 shades of black handcuffs and blindfolds and whips and all that i got swing sets and all type of different concoctions to you know yeah i'm i'm sorry to tell you all that but that that that's just me i'm i'm yeah yeah. I'm what you think I am.

I'm an alpha. Okay. Whatever you think I am, I am. Right. Yeah. I like that. I like that. I like that.

I like that. I like that. Toy and bring them. Yeah. All of them. Yeah, man. Toys are us. LP for all of them.

I'm with you when you're right. And Chad, I apologize. I didn't mean to to to open up pandora's box on on the my private life but that's what it is because someone posed the question hey i keep a battery inside my bed that'll that'll pop power uh 18 wheel just in case you know i'm there don't you yeah i know i'm with you i'm with you when you're right now. I'm with you. I got one. I got one toy that works off a generator. You know what?

Let me stop. It works off a generator, but I'm going to stop. But you see where I'm going. Yeah, I got a generator. Run everything in the house. You run everything in the house. Powering them out of my house

don't wait man please I told you Ocho you boy had to slow down Ocho you boy had to slow down man cause you know what I'm saying Ocho hey now see that's why I told you the 180 you know you you you 115 you Barbie doll

I ain't got time to put I can't take you to the doctor so no legs back together, Ocho. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I'm a heavyweight. I lay heavy. Yeah. Yeah, man. I know what you mean.

I know exactly what you mean. I know where you're coming from. Babe. Hey. Yeah, wait. I ain't what, about 250, Ocho? He said, God damn you, Ocho. I said, what you think I live all the way for hey you ever see hey if you from the side you know what i'm talking about how they

hang with hanging them horns upside down i have about heels like this old show she was 250 250 solid oh i'm gonna be playing hey that, that's BBW territory right there now. Hey, look here, babe. I don't know what you're talking about. Hey, your boy got it. I like it. I like it. See, okay, now I don't feel so bad now.

See, you're cautious in the way you live, but you have some fun. So you have some fun. Once we get to that point, once we take it there, we going all the way there. Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

That's what I say, Ocho. 180. You ain't a lady. 210. Count me in. 220. 220. Got a plenty.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm mad, Ocho. Hey, boy. Hey. Like I'm saying, if y'all. Hey, boy. Hey. Like I'm saying, y'all from the South, y'all know when you dress an animal, you hang it upside down by his hind leg. Y'all know

what I'm talking about. But 250 though? Huh? Boy, you was the 80. Boy, you know what? I'm right with you. I'm right with you. I'm right with you. But stop playing. And I'm, hey, don't let your boy be done slept with him.

With him diamonds? Put it in there. Oh, don't. You don't know? It's on. Hey. Hey. Hold on.

I should have went and grabbed me. Let me see if I grabbed you. Hold on. What are you going to get? Yeah, yeah. What year did Savor Prime Orion come out? 98? Huh? Huh?

Yeah, man! Fetish? That's what I'm talking about. All right, I got... When we come back... Hold on. We be here soon? Yeah, we be here soon.

When I come back soon, I'm going to show you them cuffs I got. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask...

I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.

To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Ocho! Yeah? Man man I remember we in 98 and uh Mike gave us

you know we've been practicing having going well and um Mike gave us to go his afternoon off he said hey

I'm gonna give you guys the afternoon off we've been doing good guys blah blah blah and uh he said hey just be careful just watch out

what you you know make sure you don't get into trouble hey you see your teammate guys make sure you don't get into trouble. Hey, you see your teammate guys. Make sure they're OK. OK, cool. And so everybody's talking about, man, which I'll go into, man. We go. Hey, who going to the Smiley Moose? That was the place that we would normally go to. Smiley Moose. Man, who going to the Smiley Moose? Some guy told my man, I'm going to see Saving Private Ryan. I say, man, I'm going to try.

I'm trying to go see. I'm trying to show somebody daughter, Lieutenant big nuts. But I'm going to my favorite private ride. They're going to see Lieutenant big nuts. Man. Hey, y'all don't believe that story. Ask anybody that was on that 90 18.

When Mike called us up, what is what I see? Hey, Ross, you in this chat. Well, what rod at man? I ain? Hey, Rod Spillfoot, you in this chat? Where Rod at, man? I ain't seen Rod in a long time, man. Tell Rod I see what's happening.

Oh, yeah. I seen Rod. Man, somebody told me I'm too fit. Yeah, man. O'Shea was hell way. Y'all was like up for he. You know, it might take me a while. Now I can't use my hips like I want cool

Right, right, right, right But oh, yeah Yeah, miss. Oh, I want Oh, oh, so 115 Got other ideas here. Right? Right, right Yeah Okay, I can't I can't I can't share my old war stories it ain't ain't gonna sit too well now No, you ain't gotta to sit too well now. No, no.

You ain't got to share those stories. You ain't got to share those stories, Ocho. But your boy ain't. But back in the day, back in the day, O'Shea. Yeah. Bad. Oh, I... Bad, please.

That was when I was young, Ocho. Damn. Good days, boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, Mickey, why you asking all these questions, Mickey? Debarging my secrets. I ain't like that no more.

I ain't like that no less either. Hey. Hey, Ochocho check this out My boy Bun he got a huge show next week It's called the All American Takeover And uh We're gonna do this uh This thing for Bun

Uh hey Bun I appreciate the love and support that you always Watching man you always give me words of encouragement so we're gonna do this for our boy bun hey bun check this out i'm your favorite oak sheldon sharp that's my co-host ocho cinco and houston are you ready are you ready because my boy bun b is having an all-american takeover y'all know how bun do it y'all know he the mayor of houston so bun handle your business do what you do the all-american takeover bun b do your thing bro yes sir baby handle it yeah american takeover what we got what we got

hold on okay oh check this out. Our second announcement, Savannah State. I'm sorry. The first two, Savannah State. This is info posted on all schools' sites. But just to make sure y'all know, we're looking for two passionate, hardworking social media members, interns, excuse me, to work on Club Che Che and Nightcap starting in April. This is a fully remote opportunity and you will be paid. We don't do anything.

We can do it right. From Savannah State University email, send us a cover letter and your resume, internship at thevolume.com. The deadline to apply is March 15th. If you go to any other school, you're going to have to wait until next year. The first opportunity is coming from my alma mater, and that's Savannah State University. So, RSA, anybody that wants to do media, that wants to get in this thing, we're looking for two hardworking. Now, if you ain't hardworking, don't even apply.

I ain't going to even lie to you now. We work over here. We work. We grind because we're trying to build something over here. So if you go to Savannah State, send your application in, send your resume in. March 15th is the deadline. After that, don't send nothing in March 6th. As a matter of fact, we're going to take it down after March 15th at midnight.

So you can't send it in March 6th as a matter of fact, we won't take it down after March 15th of midnight So you can't say today. Yeah, so gonna get those things out cuz we looking for two hard-working Hey One will work on Club Shay Shay the other work on nightcap. So that's what we doing. Now what we doing a body Hey, I'm gonna miss it cuz I already know bungle do thing big, man. That's one thing about my boy Bun. Man, anything he do. All-American Tego, I can just imagine. We need to try with them Trill Burgers too, man. I heard them things be bussing.

It's going to be crazy. Man, man. It's going to be crazy. Man, I got to get out, man. Ocho, I need to get out. Shoot, if you leave, if you go, I'm going to go too because I don't frequent Houston much. Nah, don't you go.

Don't you go. Don't do it, Ocho. My daughter out there, man. Remember my daughter at Prairie View A&M? She at Prairie View? Yeah, she at Prairie View. And my lad,

the only time I go to Houston is when I work with Charlo, the Charlo twins. Oh, man. When I'm boxing, that's it. Faith said, hey, Shannon, hypothetical question.

Jerry Jones wants to adopt you and give you 20% of his wealth, but you have to move to Texas where Dallas Cowboys are in Jersey every Sunday and cheer for the Cowboys all year. Would you accept? No.

Whose jersey would you pick and ask him for and ask him for deadbeat dad? I ain't going. Oh yeah, I'm going because guess what? 20% Jared probably worth about $13 billion. So 20% of that is going to be

10% will be 2. Nah, 1.3, 2.6. So 2.6 billion. Do you know what I can do with 2.6 billion as far as the HBCU and empower my community? You damn right. As a matter of fact, I would decorate. I'm about I'm a pay my car.

Cowboys blue and silver. I'm a I'm a wear a cowboy jersey, not just on Sunday. Every day. I'm day. Now, what you got? Oh, Joe, I ain't going. Now, can we can we change the team to the bangles nah man anybody wouldn't can we change to the dolphins ojo first of all ain't nobody y'all y'all was bad ojo ain't nobody want to change uh helmets and stuff with y'all y'all were terrible

ain't nobody want them bingo help they wanted my i took carl pickers on just got no i said bro i take it off your hand but they they wanted helmet. They wanted my helmet. I took Carl Pickens on, just got no, I said, bro, I'll take it off your hand. But they wanted my helmet. Everybody wanted my helmet. Everybody wanted my jersey. Everybody wanted, you know what they wanted? The Cowboys and the Raiders

were always the first to go. And everybody wanted that star and that Raider. You're not understanding though. Everybody wanted my helmet and my jersey. Yeah. That boy. Yeah. Yeah. That boy.

Yeah. 2.6 billion? Oh, yeah. I mean. Yeah, I'm selling out. For 2.6 billion, I'm selling out. You selling out? You know what I can do?

You know what I can do for this community? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what I can do for HBCUs? Yeah. Shh. Man, please. Lanny Ray said to my favorite podcast, go. What song would you choose to be the theme song for your life right now?

Good God almighty. Oh, mine is easy. What's yours? The same way I played in the NFL. I did everything my way. Well, it's my theme for Club Shea Shea. Nancy Hustle, grinding all my life. Grinding all your life?

Grinding all my life. Yeah, okay, that's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah, Frank Sinatra, My Way. My Way, that just resonates with everything about me. I've done everything my way. I like that. Lady Ray, you up real late.

I guess we came on an hour earlier tonight than what we did last night. No, we came on three hours. Yeah, we came on three. Dylan Parrish said, How did you get that intro for Nip for Club Shea Shea we paid for it and when are you and Ash going on camera Ash man she done

bribed Jordan we may have to do a spin off dating show out our head if you're interested in the idea I am Ash you want to go on a date she over here shaking her head yeah she said yeah no hell no I was going to say let me know I can hook all the day. She over here shaking her head. Yeah, she said, yeah. No, hell no.

Oh, I was going to say, let me know. I can hook your ass up. Since you don't want to listen, I can play matchmaker. No. 4KT said, do y'all feel disrespected

if people only know y'all from nightcap and not football? Hell nah. How they not going... You know how young you would have to be to not know us from football and only nightcap? A lot of people, I mean, a lot of people. Ocho, for the most part,

obviously when they do an introduction, if I'm going somewhere to do an introduction, they'll mention my stuff, but most of the time, all people talk to me about is club, shea, shea, and nightcap. Okay, I understand. Do you know how good you have to be in your second career where people don't even talk about your

first career and you were what you were in your first career? Do you know how good you have to be in what you're currently doing? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Take it as a compliment. Okay, you're right. I like it. I like it that way i like it that way

joseph merlot hey uncle joe funko pop joe here still waiting for them funko's question who win a push-up contest between you two don't matter i will both of you man man i've been i ain't gonna lie i ain't gonna lie joseph your boy been slacking your boy been slacking i've been man i haven't vista man stop taking your head jordan shut the hell up uh but i i i just you know look i understand what i have to do in order to to to to grow la portia i have you know and when i when i get on the phone when i get on zoom calls and when i go what I have to do in order to, to, to, to grow LaPorte. I have, you know, and when I, when I get on the phone, when I get on zoom calls and when I go in front of the meetings, this is what I promised to distribute.

This is what I promised to sell people. I'm going to show up. If you do this, I'll do that. I give you my word. I'm going to, I'm going to work harder than what you're going to work, but I expect you to, I'm going to work harder than what you're going to work, but I expect you to work hard. And so I understand that right now, this is a part of what I've got to do and I've got to make sacrifices. Right. And I'm willing to sacrifice maybe working out one, two days a week to make

sure this thing grows. Cause I want to leave something. I don't want my kids and kids. I want to go to three and four generations. I want my grandson, kids, kids to be straight. I won't. If something were to happen to me, I want my, my sister,

my brother and I'm not to have to worry. My mom, not to have to worry. My kids not to have to worry. Now I know I got, hopefully if they're there and I'm gonna have a conversation with all three of my kids in the coming weeks about what I expect. If something were to happen to me, I think this is the time, you know, I got to be realistic. I'm not a I'm not afraid to have conversations like that.

I know I already know how my daughters are going to handle that. I think my son will be a little stronger, but I need to have a conversation of what I expect, even if I'm not around. I need you to represent my last name and that name that I gave you to the highest. You'll always

be a representation of me. And I want you to know I have expectations even when I'm not here. So that's what I do this for. The will, I'm not even worried about the will. The will of the state is already done. I just alter it every

several years because as I accumulate more money, more money gets dispersed. I've seen people that we thought several years because as I accumulate more money, more money gets, gets dispersed. I'm not big. I've seen, I've seen people that we thought had it all together. Didn't have it together. I made sure that's,

that's together. I just all, I just updated every couple of years to make sure who's handling certain things and money's going certain places. ER said has probably been asked before, but Ocho, I grew up playing NFL street three and you became one of my favorite players as a kid,

seeing you on the cover of it. Can you give some insight on how you got chosen to be on the cover? Yeah. And that's a good question. I forgot what year that, that the game did come out. Cause we was on, I was on the first cover me,

Ricky Williams. Yeah. I was on the first cup. Yeah. I Williams. For real? Yeah, I was on the first cover. Yeah. Listen, that was so long ago. I don't remember how it even came about. Obviously, I'm assuming they got in touch with my agent. I'm assuming that's how it happens.

In order for it to happen, and they asked if I wanted to be on the cover. I'm assuming. And that's a no-brainer. I'm not saying no to that. And that's how it went and funny thing that you bring that up they need to bring nfl street back they need to revamp it again and bring it back because that was a very very fun game very very fun game man that was fun mashon hunter asked uncle nocho have you ever burst uh burst your dorsal vein during sex? Ocho, that vein is

in your penis, just in case you didn't know. Nah. Nah, sir, I don't know. Eyes just get really red. I'm talking about fire in your red. Mm-mm. That never happened.

I'm glad it hasn't. Mm-mm. Never happened glad it hasn't Now I'll show you man, you know you Bobby chill I be chill I'm chill J done from Akron said please wish my stepson a happy Huh, oh Oh my bad down my bad we uh nah man you might need to get that check now you doing all that I mean you doing that kind of hunting

man please uh J Dub Akron said please wish my stepson Kobe a happy 21st birthday he's finishing up his junior year at ohio state go bucks also whatever happened to your boy leo from ssu uh keep up the a1 work uh happy birthday kobe uh birthday kobe 21 big 2-1 at ohio state congratulations bro keep working hard keep Keep grinding.

Everybody's proud of you. Man, I don't know what happened to Leo. Leo didn't come back for my sophomore year, and I don't know what happened to him. I used to see one of his partners, High C, but I lost touch with him. I hadn't been back to Savannah in any length of time and stayed any length of time. I'm normally in and out. But it's going to be interesting. I'm going to with him. I hadn't been back to Savannah in any length of time and stayed in any length of time.

I'm normally in and out, but it's going to be interesting. I'm going to find him. I'll find him and let y'all know. Give y'all update. We'll have it a little. Upgrade King said, oh, at night, Kevin Ocho success and nothing less. Hard to work. Hard.

I work the lucky I get. Oh, are you doing a bottle signing in California? Yes. Eventually we are. Right now, the Total Wines in California and in Texas and a few other states ask, we got to make sure we can supply them. And so that probably won't happen until like May when we get another bigger shipment coming in. But absolutely absolutely marcus marcus blair said i'm a father of five beautiful girls i was shot in the back four times left me paralyzed from waist down i have nights i don't sleep cause of chronic nerve pain i just want to thank y'all for getting me through so many nights

marcus bro congratulations on the beautiful daughter uh you have a very positive attitude man uh for you to get here thank you for getting on here and sharing your story with congratulations on the beautiful daughter. You have a very positive attitude, man, for you to get here. Thank you for getting on here and sharing your story with, with us. I'm so sorry about what transpired, but just keep praying to the man above. He's going to watch over you and those beautiful girls and God bless.

And thanks for watching us, bro. We appreciate all the support that our loving and supportive fans have given us since September, since we brought this thing to air and you guys have never, never left us. So we greatly appreciate that. Marcus, all the best, bro. D Love said, if you and Ocho were to go to the casino,

who would come out winning the most money at what game? Poker, blackjack, slots or something else? Man, I ain't playing no slots. I'm either going to play poke, I mean blackjack, or I'm something else. Man, I ain't playing no slots. I'm either going to play blackjack or I'm going to roll a dice. That's all I play. Blackjack is the one where you got to beat the dealer, right? Yeah.

Yeah, that's the only one I know about. But you don't know how to play. See, how you talking, I can tell you don't know how to play. You're going to be here in those 16 and doing all kinds of crazy stuff. Well, actually, from my understanding, the people that you you're playing with they actually take up for you and they actually help you because they want you to win not at all first of all what what position are you playing you playing first base second base or you playing third base and i don't know man you know i don't gamble well i i'll tell you what i'm gonna come out with the most winning because i'm damn sure

not gonna be at his table because he's gonna be taking the dealer's bus card or he gonna be taking or he gonna pass and let the dealer bust us and hit us over the head that's see i mean they gotta ask a question that where something i actually know and do i don't gamble so i don't know about that stuff oh you don't get so so you don't wrote you don't replay crap when you go so what you play what you around play when y'all go to casino wait she gamble i don't gamble i don't know how to play that shit oh damn mocho yeah i can't go to casino with you we'll stay your ass home go to casino with you you don't know nothing all you want to do is probably go eat smoke my cigar in the casino you can smoke in the casino you know that

yeah for sure that's all I care about get my little coffee my little latte four sugars get me a cigar and just watch her do whatever she be doing on that poker table man I go to Vegas I'm looking for me a latte too you don't know what I'm talking about Ocho I ain't talking about the kind you put in the cup

I'm just saying Ocho that's what I'm looking for that's what I'm looking for you know what I'm saying? That between us, Ocho. Keep that between us. I got you. I got you. Please make sure y'all hit that like button.

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The greatest player to ever play for Boca Juniors. Please make sure you subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. You can't get it through Club Shay Shay, but please please help us out and sign up through the Nightcap Podcast feed. Thank you guys

for selling out Shay by La Portia. All we're doing now, we're taking pre-orders only. Pre-orders only. But you will get it. Thank you, Ocho, for sending me this. I greatly appreciate it. I need that. Dr. Bellamy,. Dr. Bellamy,

Frankie L. Bellamy, thank you for the hoodies. I'll make sure Ocho get that, but he's not getting that little figurine. That is mine. Mine, mine, mine, mine, mine. But for a nominal fee,

I'll be willing to part ways with it. That's what I would be willing to do. Hey, what y'all know about these? You know, shoes have a little bit more meaning when the guy that's responsible for the shoes, like Edison Chin, he normally sends me shoes. Anytime that he comes out with something, Jeff Staple, he didn't send me the pigeon dunks,

but he sent me some shoes. DJ Khaled. Anytime a guy, obviously I some lebrons um but anytime a guy send you a signature shoe his it has a little special a more special meaning so do y'all know what this is right here i don't know what them is my boy I don't know I think y'all I don't know I think he only made like so many I think he only gave me like family and friends but I got a pair

somebody man how y'all know but thank you for joining us for another episode of nightcap I'm your favorite unk, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85, rock runner extraordinaire, Bengals legend, ring of fame honoree, Liberty City,

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