Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Noah Lyles Comments + Jerry Jones

Episode Date: August 12, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Noah Lyles comments. Also Unc & Ocho Cowboys owner Jerry Jones' recent comments on CeeDee Lamb's contract situation, and much more!05:05 - Noah... Lyles Comments23:08 - Deion sanders comments33:26 - Jerry Jones walks back comments37:53 - Q and Ayyyyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:30 I'm going to be okay. I got a great life. And this one setback does not define me. It doesn't make me. It doesn't make, doesn't make me less, doesn't make me more, but I will get over this. So we appreciate him sharing his story on Nightcap with all our subscribers and listeners so thank you guys hopefully you got something out of that and you really appreciated that interview oh yeah Ocho you said that you
Starting point is 00:03:55 skateboard and that you wanted to you wanted to show the people at home kind of like what you did yeah yeah yeah yeah you remember that uh oh oh. You remember that? Uh. Oh. Uncle, you remember that? Boy, that look very cartoonish, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I'm surprised you ain't break your back. It hurt a little bit. It hurt a little bit, but that's the only way to get better. Uh. I'm surprised you don't remember that. You see, I can skate for real, but I can't do no damn tricks, i can i can ride i can ride the
Starting point is 00:04:27 board it look like i know what i'm doing but when i try to execute something that's what the execution look like man my back hurt i don't know if i'll be able to get on this plane a little bit watching that yeah yeah yeah my back hurt yeah man it's all good listen i can skateboard it just when it comes to doing tricks i fall over and over and over until i get it right and i was like that might have been my third time third or fourth time falling like that but i kept trying well give yourself credit i mean uh i ain't falling like that because i already know i can't do it you can't get back up you ain't gonna get back Yeah, after you get a certain age, Ocho, those legs hurt. I mean, man, I fall now.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I shatter like ice. You know, if you drop ice on the kitchen floor, you see that shit, that itch go everywhere. That's exactly what's going to happen to me. I ain't taking no falls like that, Ocho. I'm good. That's a good one. I shatter like ice.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Ocho, we got to get to these comments by Noah Lyles. This is what he said last year. He said, you know, the thing that hurts me the most is that I have to watch the NBA finals and they have world champion, excuse me, world champion on their head. World champion of what? The United States?
Starting point is 00:05:39 Don't get me wrong. I love the U.S. at all times, but that ain't the world. Well, more fuel got added to the fire today when Time Magazine revealed that while he was negotiating a contract with Adidas last year, the
Starting point is 00:05:53 company offered him an invite to a shoe release for Anthony Edwards. Lyle seems to take offense to the offer considering he was the world champ and Ant-Man wasn't. You want me to do what? You want to invite me to an event for a man who's not even been to the NBA finals in a sport that you don't even care about? And you're giving him a shoe?
Starting point is 00:06:15 No disrespect to the man, an amazing athlete. He's having a heck of a year. I love that you saw insight to give him a shoe because they saw he's going to be big. All I'm asking is, how could you not see that in me? Oh, man. Listen, there's certain battles that you shouldn't fight. Sometimes you got to pick your battles wisely. I'm just thinking for me, you pick your battles wisely.
Starting point is 00:06:42 As someone who is great at their sport, stuff like this can turn brands away. You could turn down market. They could turn marketing opportunities away from you, even though you are a gold medal winner as a partner with Adidas. And in good faith, supporting your fellow NBA player that just won gold now, you know, is unfortunate. I think the hard part is as a track runner, the market and demand for a track runner shoe, it wouldn't be as significant as a NBA basketball player who was seen globally. You think? Let me ask you a question, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I mean, yeah. In the course of five months, how many times are people going to look at Noah Lyles' feet? Yeah. In the course of an NBA season, how many people are going to look at Ant-Man feet? Every week? What, every two, three days?
Starting point is 00:07:48 Yeah. Yeah. And then guess what ant-man can do ant-man can say hey bro as a solitaire me you and these athletes hey can you wear my shoes what other track athletes gonna wear no allow shoes because you see lebron has players other players in the nba where's lebron right you see kd has other players in the NBA, where's LeBron? You see KD. Has other players, where the KD? Kobe. So I'm just trying to figure out, let's just say for the sake of argument, get a little research here, Ocho. Normally when
Starting point is 00:08:14 Nike, Adidas, Under Armour, when they give somebody a signature shoe, they say that base is between $5 and $15 million. Now when they give you a shoe, he's going to want 5% They say that that base is between five and $15 million. Now, when they give you a shoe, he's going to want 5% of each shoe.
Starting point is 00:08:30 So right. In order for them to make that kind of commitment to you, do you know how many shoes going to have to say supply and demand comes into play? Supply and demand. They don't just look at, Oh, he, there's a reason why big guys don't normally get shoe deals.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Yeah. Because ain't nobody buying these shoes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think he understands that side of it. He's just looking at it like, I'm the world champ. I'm the fastest man in the world.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Give me a shoe. Yeah, it doesn't work like that. We could go back. We could find two guys that had shoes. Michael Johnson had a shoe. Usain Bolt had a shoe. They don't still make those shoes. Why is that? Kobe
Starting point is 00:09:15 hadn't played basketball in how long? Kobe's been deceased for four years. They still make Kobe's. They still make Jordan's. They're still going to make LeBron's with LeBron retire. They're still going to make Katie's with Katie retire. There's a reason why Noah, I don't know what you're missing.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Yeah. No, no, it's great at what he does. He's, he is great at marketing himself. He is great at getting brand deals. He will continue to get them is,
Starting point is 00:09:42 is because he has a personality. He has that, that, that, that, that or that he has that it factor it takes to be represented by brand deals but as far as the shoe like that's different because it it's it's seen differently you know there's not enough exposure in the track in the track space to have a shoe deal. But let me ask you, hey, do like Shaq. Partner with Walmart. Make shoes for $20, $30 and sell a boatload of them.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Do like Stephon Marbury. Do like LeVar Ball. And one. If you so hell bent on making a sneaker, go that route. Yeah, a nice trainer Go that route. A nice trainer would be dope. A nice waffle
Starting point is 00:10:28 shoe, a nice waffle shoe, a nice spike, but they won't do it. Ocho, there's a... I mean, think about it. Only football player... I mean, Deion is really the only football player that had a shoe. He had a cross trainer. Yeah. Bo Jackson had a cross trainer. That's it. It's only those two, huh?
Starting point is 00:10:45 Where the hell you wearing, where you hair you wearing cleats at? You wearing cleats to the mall? You going to a wedding and get a pair of cleats? I'm going to walk out of there and I'm going to sell that. Basketball shoe.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Basketball shoe is just not for basketball. It's a status symbol. Yeah, you can wear it anyway. It's culture. Yeah. Cleats ain't no damn culture. Tracks fights ain't status symbol. Yeah, you can wear it anyway. It's culture. Police ain't no damn culture. Track spikes ain't no culture. Hey, them goddamn Bo Jackson's
Starting point is 00:11:09 cross-training. Remember the all-white ones with the orange lining a little bit? Yeah, the bowls that we had, we had the blue and gold ones. And everybody know what I'm talking about in the late 80s? The first Bo Jackson cross-training. I know y'all know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Them Bo Jackson. Them Bo Jackson, classic boy. Mike Vick, Mike Vick had a shoe. That's right, that's right, that's right.
Starting point is 00:11:32 The Mike Vick experience when he was at Atlanta, when he was at Atlanta. Yeah. Them things were nice too. Them things, oh wait. But I just don't know,
Starting point is 00:11:39 go ahead. Randy Moss didn't have a shoe, did he? He's with Jordan though. Yeah. He's with Jordan. I just don't know, Ocho, of a track athlete. They're not visible
Starting point is 00:11:48 enough. I mean, the big meets, you get two world championships and you get two Olympics. And that's kind of the only time that people are really talking track and field. Where basketball, you know, is
Starting point is 00:12:04 and, you know, and you know is what they come out October so October, November, December, January February, March, April, May and the NBA finals end in June so nine months and as you said a couple of times a week we gonna see what's on Ant-Man's feet
Starting point is 00:12:20 and then Ant-Man got some dope ass colorways boy and the thing is he gonna do something crazy he gonna dunk on somebody now I wanna go you run the world record time I don't still wanna go out and buy no track spikes
Starting point is 00:12:36 and so you have to look at it from a business point of view I wanna say you know what I'm tired of getting fired I wanna create something on my own okay I had to come out my own damn pocket right if you serious about it you're going to have to come out your own pocket
Starting point is 00:12:55 you're going to have to pay producers you're going to have to pay you know editors and graphics and all that stuff okay and when you go on location and shoot somebody got to pay for that oh yeah you want to shoot Mr. Shaw fixing all that stuff, Ocho. And when you go on location and shoot, somebody got to pay for that. Oh, yeah, you want to shoot Mr. Shaw? Oh, we love Clay Shea Shea.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Oh, that'll cost you $10,000. And then you got to put people up. Where they stand there, Ocho? Somewhere. How they going to get there? Got to fly them. People just think like, oh, I i'm popular just give me a shoe people look adidas and nikes and companies they're not non-profits you know they had this thing uh
Starting point is 00:13:35 what was it chanel or dior they makes a purse for 57 and sell it for 2500 okay don't buy the purse or you go make a purse that you like and there you go. That markup is going to be crazy. That's the whole thing. You're supposed to make something like, it doesn't cost me a lot, but then you sell. Everything is a markup. I was reading, they're saying
Starting point is 00:13:57 restaurants mark up anything between 100% and 250%. You just told me about that. Remember not too long ago. Yeah. Duke Irie. Yeah. They got to make a profit. Yes!
Starting point is 00:14:16 But they got, but Ocho, they got to be, they're not, anytime somebody give you a boatload of money, they feel they can make more money than what they're paying you so if they're paying if they're paying Joe Burrow 55 million
Starting point is 00:14:31 how much you think the Bengals are making on his jersey sales and ticket sales man crazy yes it's just hard. It's hard for a football player to sell shoes because they associate cleats
Starting point is 00:14:50 with football players. They associate track spikes with track athletes. Basketball, Ocho, now it's cool to wear a suit or a tuxedo with sneakers. What'd you call, you ever heard of a sneaker ball? You know how they be having sneaker balls?
Starting point is 00:15:05 Yes. You wear a tuxedo, you wear a suit, and everybody wear sneakers? Yeah. Yes. So, it's just,
Starting point is 00:15:15 I don't know. I just, but here's the thing. Somebody got to talk to him and explain the business side of it. I can see where he's coming from, but if somebody sat down and explained to him the business side of it i can see where he's coming from but if somebody sat down and explained to him the business side of it and how uh it in in it might make sense to him but it doesn't make sense to adidas or wouldn't make sense to nike regardless of how
Starting point is 00:15:36 popular or or or how on fire and hot you are right now from a business standpoint to them it just doesn't make sense. I mean, like Griffey, but Griffey had a cross trainer. Adam Griffey was nice, boy. I got him. Adam Griffey was nice. The black with the teal, the Mariners colors, then he had the all white
Starting point is 00:16:00 with the teal. Man, that thing is nice. But Nike is not just handing out shoes. When Nike give you a signature white with the man of things nice but nike is not just handing out shoe right when when nike give you a signature deal they understand the risk that they're taking that's why they're very particular you know lifetime deals only lebron james michael jordan and kevin durant has lifetime with nike kairi had a very popular shoe they lost their mind he said something he tweeted, posted something
Starting point is 00:16:28 and it's like nah, he's like well hell I go somewhere else, they're going to make me creative director I design my own shoe, got a nice shoe? yeah I just don't think Noah understands, I think he's just looking at it like I'm popular give me a shoe
Starting point is 00:16:43 it just doesn't work like that. Because think about the R&D, the research and development that's going to go into it. I mean, they pay you five to 15 million. What does it cost to bring a shoe to market? I don't know. Listen, it might happen because he's making this kind of noise, though. You never know. It might happen because he's making a kind of noise.
Starting point is 00:17:03 It got to make sense. It's got to make dollars. I know. He of noise it gotta make sense it's gotta make dollars he'll make a noise is he gonna make dollars yeah cause if it doesn't make dollars it doesn't make sense the bottom line will always be the same no matter what they gave I mean you know like
Starting point is 00:17:21 every you know like P-Rod skate dunks I mean everybody you know, like every, you know, like P-Rod skate dunks. I mean, everybody, you know, they've had, you know, Jeff Staples with the pigeon dunks. You know, some, some, everybody, everybody can't sell. Travis Scott's done amazing. Hey, boy. Kanye has done amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:41 I mean, Kanye's with Nike, blah, blah, blah. He's like, y'all don't want to do this. Oh, he goes to Adidas. He does Yeezy. Box office. But there have been a lot of guys that they've given, trying to put their name in it, and it doesn't work. So, I mean, Asia has a shoe now.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I think Angel Reese has Reebok. I saw her shoe. Her shoe looks nice. I think they're coming out with a shoe for Kaitlyn Clark, right? It's going to be like... I don't think it's done yet. I think they're coming out with a shoe. There's somebody else with Nike that has a shoe that's really dope. I think it's for women.
Starting point is 00:18:20 It's for women. I think it's Jordan Brand, if I'm not mistaken. I can't think of who it is. Angel Reese, Ant-Man. Noah has 1.5 million IG followers. Ant has 4 plus million. Angel Reese, 4 million. Nigel has his own skateboard shoe and has almost 6 million IG followers.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Exposure matters. It does. Exposure matters. It does. Exposure matters. Because you have to have a presence. And they're on television. I mean, I'm only going to see Noah at the Olympics and the World Championships. USA's.
Starting point is 00:18:57 So really, three, four big meets a year? When you think about it. It's just tough. There is a track market for him, though. It's just tough. And I get it. He's like, man, I'm doing it. There is a track market for him, though. There is a demand. You know, if it was,
Starting point is 00:19:10 but the demand that would make sense for the billionaire business or the billionaire entity that is Adidas, it doesn't make sense to them. No. It doesn't make sense to them.
Starting point is 00:19:22 That's what has to make sense to them. Right. Yeah, yeah. Because they're the one that's putting up the money right you're right man you don't see my vision you don't see my what they say okay if somebody doesn't see your vision somebody doesn't see your dream okay create on your own with your own money yep so i understand me it's frustrating um but you talk about carl lewis um was one of the most
Starting point is 00:19:45 popular sprinters in the history definitely in America Michael Johnson had a shoe Usain had a shoe there were a few people that had shoes but I tell you who could get a shoe Sidney McLaughlin
Starting point is 00:20:02 she has it all She has it all. She has it all. Yeah. I mean, sometimes that's what she has what it takes to sell. Yeah. And she's a safe. She's a safe. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:21 Yes. Yeah. She's safe. You don't have to worry about nothing. You don't have to worry about nothing. You don't have to worry about her saying nothing to crazy and safe. And she's marketable. She's marketable. And she don't even open her damn mouth. She don't even talk much.
Starting point is 00:20:35 No. She's marketable. Ocho, but you know when it comes to women, they have to have a certain look. Yeah. She got it. Yeah. She got to be able to produce. She's a prodigy. She was 15,
Starting point is 00:20:48 16 years old. We knew about her when she was running down girls in high school. She goes to college for a year. Goes pro. She is the complete package. Clean. I'm talking about package. Clean.
Starting point is 00:21:06 I'm talking about nothing. Yeah. If you want to draw up, say, I want a woman athlete. I want a female athlete. Sydney McLaughlin. Yeah. It is what it is, though, Joe. I wish you was something I could tell him different, but it's not.
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Starting point is 00:26:29 Unfortunately, we had technical difficulties and we weren't able to play the sound. And that created confusion. Let's take a listen to the sound and then we'll talk about it afterwards. Next guy. Eric Christensen with CBS Sports Colorado. CBS, I'm not doing nothing with CBS. Next guy. Eric Christensen with CBS Sports Colorado. Tyler. I'm not doing nothing with CBS. Next question.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Joe Regal, my other sports radio. This is Bob Day. I ain't got nothing to do with you. I got love for you. I appreciate and respect you. I ain't got nothing to do with you. They know what they did. I'm here in Denver, not National.
Starting point is 00:27:00 You are who you are. CBS is CBS. All right. Joe Regal, my other sports radio. I respect you. That's why I told you that I'm looking at you now as a man I respect you I got love for you but what they did was foul what happened there back in July
Starting point is 00:27:16 CBSSports.com ranked Prime as one of the worst power conferences coaches in the country Prime was ranked second worst in the conference behind Kenny Dillingham at Arizona State. Yes, sir. And he was ranked 61st out of coaches at the FBS level. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:27:37 This is new to time. Time is never... Time since he's been playing sports have always been the best, always been told's been playing sport. Right. Have always been the best. Always been told he was the best. But the first time. He's not the best.
Starting point is 00:28:07 I mean, the guy that was asking the question, he didn't say that. He just happens to work. So I guess he has a blanket for CBS in general. Well, they did. I have a question. Are we sure the reason that he didn't want to talk to the affiliate that was a part of CBS, are we sure the reason why is based on the rankings that were put out in July? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Yeah, I don't know about that. Hey, we got a new year coming up now. We got a new year coming up. So there's only one way to change that. We can't get mad if somebody say,
Starting point is 00:28:46 of all athletes that do sports podcasts, Nightcap might be the 50th best. What? They're not one. They're not top 10. They might be no 50. Nah, shit.
Starting point is 00:29:00 We top three. I don't care what nobody say. They got me fucked up. But the thing is is that that's somebody's opinion i can what you what people think i got it we can't do anything about that we just keep doing we do right time just have to keep coaching yeah yeah yeah he he can't and he i mean he tell the guys block block out the noise, drown out the noise. Time go put together a 9-3 or 10-2 season.
Starting point is 00:29:30 That's what they've been saying. Time has always been in the light. So he knows people have always tried to take Soto shots at him. They called him selfish when he tried to help the Braves win a title. And he was also playing for the Falcons. So they've always tried to put label him as such as being selfish. He's supremely confident
Starting point is 00:29:53 and rightfully so. I mean to play professional football and to be the best at something and play baseball. Hey you hear a lot of people saying oh I can play basketball players say they can play football you ain't heard them say they gonna hit that damn 100 mile an hour
Starting point is 00:30:12 fastball no sir and talking to time as a guy that played both the highest you can play is MLB and NFL he said it ain't even close. He said there are also articles two days ago that probably added to prime frustration.
Starting point is 00:30:32 The headline of the article, Shiloh Sanders filed bank roughs in Colorado DB debt stem from allegedly assaulting a security guard in 2015. That's a chess move. You know what that is. I ain't got to explain it to you. You know what to do. That's a chess move. You know what that is. I ain't got to explain it to you. You know what to do. That's a chess move. You know that. I ain't got to explain that one. 50 did the same thing
Starting point is 00:30:54 years ago, remember? No, but I'm saying time probably is that they keep bringing it up. They're pushing it out. Man, they so green. You know how the media is you know how they do they're going to keep playing with you
Starting point is 00:31:11 but it's one thing that cures all that though them W's in the win column all that goes right away them W's in the win column and he addressed the issues he addressed the issues this offseason too that's how I know
Starting point is 00:31:25 listen the team is going to be different this year anyway once you get them beating potatoes on that interior offensively and defensively okay now we can play ball now we can play ball
Starting point is 00:31:37 that's where the wink link was at it wasn't on the outside it wasn't the quarterback position it definitely wasn't the skill position the difference from power five schools and It definitely wasn't the skill position. The difference from Power Five schools and everybody else is not
Starting point is 00:31:48 the skill position. It's the meet the fielders. The five that put their hand in the dirt on both sides of the ball. So your five offensive linemen and the ones that put their hand in the dirt on the defensive side. Boy, listen. You talk about some hogs, Unc. Shh. But once you get them in there, baby, oh, we can
Starting point is 00:32:03 play ball now. It evens the playing field the thing gonna be different over there he gonna be alright put a few of them W's in there man hit that Jameson Winston on the ass eat a few doves you gonna be straight I call him what do i call him what they call him i ain't said his name wrong y'all call him prime
Starting point is 00:32:34 i call him tan he's in my phone it's time i've always called him yeah you never say prime i don't ever call it pride i look there are certain like are certain people you have relationships with that you call them, like, I call him Ty. Ray, I don't call Ray by his name. I call him Sugar. I call Ray Sugar, too. Everybody call him that.
Starting point is 00:33:00 You got a chance to meet Lorenzo Neal before? Yeah. Hey boy, him and Ray at the promo. You talk about funny. Oh my God. Boy, but I'm,
Starting point is 00:33:15 yeah. Most people, comedy, most, most people, like most athletes, like when you got a nickname, that's what we refer to you right right
Starting point is 00:33:26 right it is i mean it's i don't know what y'all i mean oh you said it's not no i'm not yeah i'm not i think everybody's in the chat i think i got a better relationship do they know how long we all known each other i'm just curious i guess not i i don't think so yeah so uh I'm just curious. I guess not. I don't think so. Yeah. So, everybody, I get nobody called Ray Lewis sugar until
Starting point is 00:33:53 I got to Baltimore in 2000. And now, damn it, everybody, that's what they refer to him as. Okay, fine. I ain't calling no grown man sugar. That's fine. I ain't calling no grown man big that's fine i ain't calling no grown man big daddy that's fine too y'all don't have to but y'all come all right y'all didn't go to no record store and say hey give me that cane cd y'all said big daddy came you see how y'all pick and choose what you know about what you know about big daddy came man you don't know about no big daddy came
Starting point is 00:34:22 what you know about what you know about cameo that they call? You don't know nothing about no Big Daddy Kane, man. What you know about cameo? And they call, what do they call Allen Iverson? Bubba Chuck. Bubba Chuck? That's what they call him. That's his nickname? That's what they call him, yeah. Oh. Yeah. Look, I ain't got no problem.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Whatever you want to be called, you want to be A. You want to be A. Got a homeboy A. And what's it called? For the longest time, his name was Creature. That's what he called him. Had a homeboy named Frog Leg. That's what we called him. I had a homeboy at the crib named Fish.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Two Fish. Yeah. But we got some crazy names, bro. I got a homeboy in Gleaver right now. I went to school with a dude name was Honey ain't nobody ever called him his real name was Irvin
Starting point is 00:35:10 ain't nobody called him the coaches, the teachers even called him Honey Tignor Honey what? Honey Tignor his real name was Irvin I got his brother okay Frog Legs Frog Legs is the oldest brother His real name was Irving. Yeah. I got his brother.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Okay, Frog Legs. Frog Legs is the oldest brother. Honey is the baby boy. He got another brother that's a year older than my brother. They call him Kickfire. I said, man, why people call you Kickfire? He said, I kick fire from the end. So everybody, man, y'all seen kick five?
Starting point is 00:35:50 Man, I saw him up there at the store, the corner store a little while ago. If you're from the South and anybody that's from the South, y'all know exactly what I'm talking about. Got a homeboy. He got another brother named Piggy Pat. Piggy Pat. Piggy Pat. Kick five, honey, frog Leg, Piggypack. That's the four boys.
Starting point is 00:36:09 That's the... Nobody called me... Hell, I couldn't even tell you Frog Leg real name. I can't tell you Piggypack real name. As a matter of fact, I couldn't even tell you Creature real name. Half the people, you called them that for so long. So long, you forget what their real name is. I don't know what their damn real name is, man. You don't call him that your whole life.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Peace. But, hey. But it is what it is. Check this out. Jared Jones has clarified his recent comments regarding C.D. Lamb and his lack of urgency to come to terms on a contract extension out, old Joe. Jared Jones has clarified his recent comments regarding C.D. Lamb and his lack of urgency to come to terms on a contract extension with the star receiver.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Jared said, I think I got in trouble the other day when I said, look, we're not urgent about C.D. Oh, you think? You think you got in trouble? Because if you didn't think you got in trouble, you wouldn't be addressing it right now. But anyway, well, no one appreciates C.D. being on the field more than I do. But let me say this.
Starting point is 00:37:06 He wouldn't be taking a snap out here today if he had been here. Stop it! He know what the fuck So you mean to tell me if CD Lamb had showed up, you was going to say, CD, don't you take no snaps until we get your contract done. You see? I think he meant as far as playing. Like, he wouldn't be playing in the preseason.
Starting point is 00:37:21 No. Practicing. Oh, practicing? Oh, okay, okay, okay. Oh, you said he going to be holding in? I mean, Jamar showed up. You see he ain't practiced yet, though. He holding in. But Jerry, every time, every time,
Starting point is 00:37:39 the mouth, putting him in front of the cameras, it's unnecessary. You know what you're saying. You're well aware of what you're saying. Why would you even utter that knowing you have a player that would like his money,
Starting point is 00:37:52 which is well-deserved, based on the numbers and the production that he's put in for your team? Why even say that? As an owner, it's not urgent. And you know he's fighting for his money. Who do you think is going through CD's head?
Starting point is 00:38:06 Well, damn, that's how we feel? Okay, bet. I told you. I told you. Now, I won't be surprised if CD asks for a trade soon, now. Oh, Dak won't be there this afternoon. It's reported that Dak tweaked his ankle. That's why he wasn't out there. And so,
Starting point is 00:38:21 the bottom line is, no, there's no urgency. Now, I understand completely the angst that's happening. And when you're anxious about it, someone says something, you're missed out or not. Well, CD, you're missed, okay? But you're not missed out here competing, and that doesn't put any pressure anyplace on us.
Starting point is 00:38:39 No, CD, don't worry about it. You're good. Let them game. Guess what? In 93, there was no urgency to get no deal let them game guess what in 93 there was no urgency to get no deal done and guess what happened they started 0-2 I bet they paid Emmitt Smith
Starting point is 00:38:51 and they won the Super Bowl he sure did oh so this is the ongoing thing yes okay so that's just how he operates okay I understand with certain ones but why you do it with the good ones that don't make no sense
Starting point is 00:39:09 hey he did it with Dez he did it with Zeke so what's he trying to prove what statement is he trying to make what's the end goal what's the end goal what are you trying to say I don't want to win no more Super Bowls. I think that's what he's trying to say. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to
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Starting point is 00:44:07 Ocho, now it's time for our last segment of the day. It is Q and A. What's wrong with you, boy? It's the way you said it. Wait. That's what he said. He ain't trying to win the football. Hell no.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Jacob M. said, What up, Uncle Ocho? Do you think men winning gold will lead to more confidence and better seasons for each player of Olympic nightcap for the Dubs? What you think, Ochoa? Wait, what was the question?
Starting point is 00:44:48 He says, do you think men winning gold will lead to more confidence and a better season for each player Olympic nightcap for the dove? Yeah, I think so. I think so. The motivation will still be there regardless of winning gold or not, because when you're playing on the highest level, obviously representing your country, and you're playing at your regular job, your day job,
Starting point is 00:45:09 you're playing not only for the team you play for, but you're also playing for the name on the back of your jersey. So I think the motivation will already be there. And you're inclined to always play as well as you possibly can. So I don't think it will change much. Yeah. I mean, I think the thing is for those guys, every guy over there,'t think it would change much. Yeah. I mean, I think the thing is
Starting point is 00:45:26 for those guys, every guy over there, they're trying to get better. Oh yeah. Guys want to be the face of the NBA. Guys got 300 and $200 million contract.
Starting point is 00:45:34 You got to live up to that. You got to live up to that. Yeah. You got five and 10 and you're trying to get better. There's something guys want to, let's see. I want to see how good
Starting point is 00:45:42 I can actually be. I want to contend for championships. I want to be thought of as the best player in the NBA good I can actually be. I want to contend for championships. I want to be thought of as the best player in the NBA. I'm talking about there are a few. I mean, Ant-Man has already told you. Ant-Man going to everybody. He don't care who he is.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Jason Tatum wants to show. Jason Tatum come back like, bro, that guy that y'all saw sitting on the bench and not getting playing time and playing two or three minutes, that ain't who I am. Y'all know me. I'm JT. Three-time first team All or three minutes. That ain't who I am. Y'all know me. I'm JT. Three-time first-team All-NBA. That's me. NBA champ.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Larry Bird Award winner. That's me. I'm that JT. Not that guy that y'all saw sitting on the bench. Yeah. That ain't me. So absolutely the guys are going to be motivated. LeBron wants to show, look, LeBron is going into year 22.
Starting point is 00:46:26 LeBron wants to show guys, I'm still at the top of the food chain. I'm still there. KD wants to say, hey, y'all know me. I'm Kevin Durant. Y'all know who I am. AD, Joel Embiid, Book. Because they look at the guys that won gold medals, and then when they came back, they still had a hunger.
Starting point is 00:46:50 They still had a desire. Yeah. When they won the gold medal, look at Jordan came back. Kobe didn't look at Kobe. Kobe came back trying to get it. Yeah. LeBron, get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I mean, the funny thing, the pressure is already on them regardless of the Olympics. The pressure is already on them still. Yes. Steph was like, y'all forgot y'all? Did y'all forget I'm still the greatest shooter? Okay, y'all forgot. Y'all talk about them first four games? Y'all forgot. Y'all forgot about those steps. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Let me cook something up for y'all. He would definitely cook. I got something for you Bonnie Qwerty I think that's how you say her name much love from Maryland love you both and Nightcap community it's been a great Olympic run thank you
Starting point is 00:47:34 hopefully everybody enjoyed our coverage of the Olympics next time hopefully even in the world championships in 25 in Tokyo we'll do a better job. I think. I think athletes seeing how we did this, I think there'll be more apt to want to come on and talk and talk about their sport because they see the reach that we have. And so I think we'll have even more athletes that come on and talk
Starting point is 00:48:06 about their races, about other things going on. Now, I can't make no promises I'm going to ever be able to get Sidney McLaughlin. So, Lerone. So, I ain't going to make that promise, but I ain't going to be for lack of trying. I ain't going to be for lack of trying now. I mean, even if you don't just come on and say, hey guys. And go
Starting point is 00:48:24 off. We're going to get some. That's enough. We're going to get and say hey guys we gonna get some we gonna get some we gonna get some Scott Sorensen said what do you think of our prospects for LA Olympics in 2028 with the home field advantage man I remember how
Starting point is 00:48:39 we went crazy in 84 I was there the boxing I mean I think there. I was there. The boxing, I mean, I think we won. I think there was 12 medals, 12 weight classes. I think we won like 10 golds or silver
Starting point is 00:48:53 in a bronze. We did. We damn near did what the Chinese did in diving. Where they swept the gold medals in table tennis. They swept table tennis. They swept table tennis. So, oh yeah, I do think,
Starting point is 00:49:10 I think, you know, guys, obviously everybody fights harder in their own backyard. So I'm super excited. I'm going. I don't give a damn about no traffic. I'm going. I'm going to see track and field.
Starting point is 00:49:23 I'm going to see a no traffic. I'm going. I'm going to see track and field. I'm going to see a basketball event. I'm going to. I got to see it. I mean, you know, that's where my bucket is. You know, been to a Super Bowl, been to a World Series Game 7, been to an NBA Finals game. I've been to All-Star Games, you know, Pro Bowl, MLB All-Star, NBA All-Star. So I've been to a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:49:47 The Olympics and Wimbledon, they're on my bucket list. So. Okay. Can you explain why the 4x4 and the 800 meters runner start and stagger lanes and then switch to lane one? That seems like they have to cover a little bit more ground by switching. Actually, you know, they don't because when they start outside, they got to cover distance.
Starting point is 00:50:13 But, you know, that's why they started outside. You start outside, so the guys on the inside, they get it. They get to go look. But see, the 4x4 is staggered because you got lanes 1 through 8. And so it's based on time. So sometimes you get preference. I mean, I think the fastest time you get to start, like Carson Warhol, when normally he gets the fastest time, he loves to start in lane 7.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Right. He loves to start far out, be damned to be into the curtain. And so then they pass it off to the second leg. And the second leg, I think they have to go like 100 meters, maybe 150 meters before they can move over to lane one. You got to really go, too.
Starting point is 00:50:55 That's just the way it's been set up. You know what? It's funny that you say that because when we ran track we never did that we didn't do that in high school when we got the baton in the 4x4 where we hey you
Starting point is 00:51:12 jockeying for a position you look at your guy okay your guy he's back there you might be in the fifth slot and then all of a sudden he come you try to bump the guy's like ah man come on you see my guy in front so you jockeying for a position but man both 400 meters look
Starting point is 00:51:29 the women's weren't contested i wish it was a little bit more contested because i think they could have got the world record i mean sid sid ran what 41 47 71 with no push what does she run if she's pushed if she's pushed like rob benjamin what does she run if she's pushed if she's pushed like Rob Benjamin what does she run ain't no telling she might go sub 47 which is crazy that I'm even saying that I mean at least she's going low
Starting point is 00:51:56 47 to think of a woman that can go sub 47 but she's going low 47 with push you don't know what a person can do until they're pushed 47, but she's going low 47 with push. You don't know what a person can do until they're pushed. Nobody thought they could run that fast until Usain Bolt got pushed the first
Starting point is 00:52:15 50 meters. The funny thing is, push? Hell, he had to catch the fuck up. When you think about it. So, hell he had to catch the fuck up when you think about it so hey Stephen Bass 314 said you really a true black role model much love from one of your biggest fans question have you
Starting point is 00:52:34 ever had a friend that was close to you as bucket burns that ended up falling out with yeah happens move on with. Yeah. It happens. Move on. It happens in life. I mean,
Starting point is 00:52:51 um, unfortunately, it is, it is, it is, but it's, it's not the end of the world. Um,
Starting point is 00:53:01 I didn't come in the world with, with, with anybody. I'm going to leave out of it by myself. But, you know, it's unfortunate because when you close someone and, you know, you've been to their home, they've been in yours and you've exchanged stories and you know that person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Yeah. But you know what, Ocho? Things happen. Yeah. I'm not the first. I won't be the last. I mean, there are people that have had people that have been you know they've been close
Starting point is 00:53:28 with 30-40 years but it's all good I don't think about the friends that I don't have anymore I just worry about the friends that I do have so Bucket Burns guys that I'm cool with now I'm good it happens but
Starting point is 00:53:43 it's not the end of the world. Ocho, this concludes our Olympic. This is our closing ceremony. We're going to put a button on this, put this in a nice bow. Unless we get Sidney.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Now, if we get Sidney McLaughlin, we'll be coming back. She'll be part of the NFL season if we get Sidney. Now, if we get Sidney McLaughlin. We'll be coming back. We'll be coming back. A special edition. She'll be part of the NFL season if we get Sidney. She can interrupt any of the normal scheduling programming on Nightcap. Sid, she absolutely can. Guys, thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite, Uncle Shannon Shark.
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Starting point is 00:55:15 the street skateboarder, share some insight from his stories of being in Paris, losing out on the gold medal, winning the bronze. But hey, he felt he was in position to win the gold and should have won it. Played, dealt with some things mentally that he was able to shake off or he's shaking off. So we thank you, Nigel, for coming on. We greatly appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:55:37 The U.S. women make it eight straight, narrowly escaping France on home soil, 67-66. They win the gold medal. Gabby Williams heaved at the buzzer, was banked in, but her foot was on the line. And so instead of going into overtime, they lose 67-66. And the U.S. capture a 61st consecutive Olympic win with eight straight gold medals.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Diana Taurasi, DT, now has six gold medals. So thank you for joining us for Nightcap. I'm Ump, he's Ocho. See y'all soon. The Volume. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow to the thing that you refuse to identify.
Starting point is 00:56:39 The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core.
Starting point is 00:57:09 There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra Affair.
Starting point is 00:57:45 The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.

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