Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Ocho the Bullrider

Episode Date: May 29, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss a variety of topics including Chad's experience riding a bull, Kylie Kelce clapping back at angry fan and much more!02:39 - Watson says Browns Steel...ers is NFL biggest rivalry25:37 - Spell-o-Cinco34:22 - Dunk on Unc41:57 - Q and Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:42 Deshaun sees one rivalry in the division among the top rivalries in all sports. It's Brown Steelers. Cleveland-Pittsburgh, for sure. It's even bigger than Cincinnati. It's not Baltimore. Baltimore's up there, but it ain't as real as Pittsburgh. In that division, it's Baltimore Steelers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:58 We know. Right, right. It is. Because, yeah. Normally, normally, people are going to leave on stretches. Somebody getting carried off the field, Ocho. You go back and look at those
Starting point is 00:03:12 kids that Ryan Clark and James Harrison and Ray and Ed Reed and those guys are Hines Ward from a wide receiving position. Especially Hines. He's going to do it with a smile on his face too. I understand that the Packers
Starting point is 00:03:27 and the Bears are older. That's the first rivalry. It goes back to the old Bears. So it goes back 100 years. But not in pro football. Ain't nothing like Baltimore-Pittsburgh. I've been a part of it. I've been a part of the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I mean the Raiders and the Broncos. But Baltimore and Pittsburgh yeah hey that's a war zone when they playing and I'm talking about the early 2000s when that actually happened to be in the league and I couldn't wait to watch those games if we weren't playing
Starting point is 00:04:01 a one o'clock game and they were on boy it's nothing but war. War time. It was always like that. When they had Joy Porter and they had Gildan and they had Earl Holmes and they had, what's the linebacker from Georgia?
Starting point is 00:04:19 Kendrell Bell. Knock your head off. Knock your head off will knock your head off man nah I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one Deshaun I understand Cleveland and Cleveland used to be
Starting point is 00:04:33 a rivalry back in the day and I'm sure it's still heated but Baltimore Steelers when I think about it Cleveland has been so Cleveland has been so bad during that time. I mean, would it really be considered a rivalry because Pittsburgh dominated during that time? And look, like I said, Ocho, they've been playing a long time.
Starting point is 00:05:00 This was before your time, like in the early 80s, you used to call them the cardiac. Yeah, I was there. I was there. I remember that. When they had Brian Seip and they had Ozzie. They were really, you know, Coy Baker. They had some good, Clay Matthews Sr. They had some good players.
Starting point is 00:05:13 They had Hanford Dixon and Frank Mennefield. Oh, now they had them call them, hey, Frank Mennefield and Hanford Dixon. Yeah. They right there. Hey, hey, hey. Ocho ain't none of them. In your face. They ain't that disguising. They right there hey hey Ocho ain't none of this scheme ain't that disguising they right there
Starting point is 00:05:29 right there yeah hey I call it that old Raiders defense you know if you if you going into the week and you know you playing the Raiders you know you getting
Starting point is 00:05:37 man to man safety in the middle of the field strong safety in the box that's why it's hard you look at Larry Brown. Larry Brown was Super Bowl MVP. He goes to the Raiders, and he cut in a year. He was in the bench.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Bro, they play man all over the field. And you got to be able to run. I'm talking about you got to literally be able to run, run, to play in that defense because they just play man. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, go back and look it up. People think I'm lying.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Go back and look it up. Larry Brown. Super Bowl MVP. He go to the Raiders and look. Hey, hold on. They missed him in the year? He was gone.
Starting point is 00:06:19 We cooked him. Everybody cooked him. It wasn't just us. Hey, hey, flip that. They call the play. Hey, flip it. Everybody cooked him. It wasn't just us. Hey, flip that. They call the play. Hey, flip it. Run it left. Everybody wanted a piece of the country. He couldn't cover.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And then he didn't have that front line like he had in Dallas. He didn't have those Charles Haley and Leon Lant and you know all those guys, Tony Tolbert and Russell Miles and all those guys. Hebert and Russell Mathers and all those guys you can have that you got a good D-line
Starting point is 00:06:48 it can help you have a lot of things so uh uh Ocho! That ain't no bull riding. What? As soon as they open the chute,
Starting point is 00:07:10 I ain't never seen you jump so high. You ain't never jumped out. How to catch a pair the way you jumped on that gate? Wait a minute. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. There are professional bull riders. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Let me finish. There are professional bull riders that have been doing this all their life. When the chute opens, they fall off in 1.5 seconds just like I did. Do you know what that means? Do you know what that means?
Starting point is 00:07:33 I can show you because I had to study them. I had to study them before I got on that bull. The fact that I was able to stay on there for 1.5 seconds. You ain't staying on there 1.5 nothing. 1.5 nanoseconds.
Starting point is 00:07:46 That's how it goes. 1.5 nothing. 1.5 nanoseconds. That's how it goes. 1.5 seconds. You didn't even let the bull spin. And you was off it. Because there's too much power. I didn't know how to gauge his power because I'd never been on a bull before. That wasn't just any bull.
Starting point is 00:07:59 It's a professional bull. It's a professional bull. It's a rank bull. Hey, listen. I'm from Liberty City. I ain't never seen a bull. It's a professional bull. It's a rank bull. Hey, listen. I'm from Liberty City. I ain't never seen a bull. The only thing I've ever seen was a raccoon. Well, you had a better chance of riding him than that bull.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Hey, listen. I got on that. I'm going to give you credit. I'm going to give you credit for getting on him. But you just. What's that? Let's go, boy that let's go boy let's go boy he gonna get a thump
Starting point is 00:08:31 look at this let's go get it up you talking about what get up get up boy get up that's alright
Starting point is 00:08:40 that's alright why you laughing why you laughing why you laughing hey Ocho you was geek you like yeah yeah like
Starting point is 00:08:50 oh damn I did step on it hey hey listen I tell people about that that experience all the time man there's no way
Starting point is 00:09:02 to prepare for that when I was getting ready Tyray had me on the mechanical bull and i was mastering the mechanical bull because i can squeeze my legs and i felt comfortable when i sat on the bull i looked at ty and the first thing i said was ty i can't close my legs he said yeah i know i tried to explain that to you that's why you got to use your spurs so i looked at him again i'm in the shoe talking that i say you don't think the spurs gonna hurt him he said the spurs are for you to give you leverage to be able to hold on i say ty boy this ain't finna work it ain't fuck it i mean that let's go
Starting point is 00:09:39 uh when that gate open and that fat ass bull that power I never felt nothing like that up underneath me ever in life so when the chute opened and the bull shot out I couldn't hold on because I wasn't used to it because the thing is Ocho you have to study the bull to know his patterns is he
Starting point is 00:10:02 going to dive is he going to turn is he going to spin so you have an opportunity turn? Is he going to spin? So you have an opportunity. So you have to be able to shift your weight accordingly. Because if you get too far forward, he's going to throw your ass off. If you get too far to the left or right, he's going to throw you off or he's going to buck you off the back.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Listen, I would do it again if the opportunity presented itself. I'd like to thank the PBR for allowing me to come and do it but listen that might be something I need to add to my hobbies nah hell nah of things that I like to do and I need to keep
Starting point is 00:10:34 on doing it because I think bull riding is something that I can get very very good at nah you ain't gonna get good at that I tell you what I stayed on for 1.5 seconds that would do 1.5 seconds hey Chad do y'all think Ocho stayed on
Starting point is 00:10:48 for 1.5 seconds do y'all actually think 1.5 the clock said the clock said I got bucked off for 1.5 seconds nah nah nah nah nah nah nah
Starting point is 00:10:57 you know either way either way on my resume it says professional bull rider that's all that you said it does it says professional bull rider I'm going down. You said. It does. It says professional
Starting point is 00:11:05 bull rider. I'm going down in the books of history as the first black person from Liberty City to ride a professional bull. Ocho. Only one person. Man, that over that shoe. Hey, matter of fact, I'm going to do it again i'm gonna redo it i'm gonna get on cool whip oh hell no hell no oh no absolutely not matter of fact i get on bushwhacker i get on bushwhacker
Starting point is 00:11:41 since he retired hey no that. That don't mean he can't still do what he do. He can do that to you. Now, he might not do that to the professionals, but oh yeah, he got you. Hey, that was a great experience.
Starting point is 00:12:02 That was a great experience. I don't think people understand how big they are. That's my point, Ocho. Unless you grow up on a farm and you be around animals, you have no idea. It's like you see animals on TV and then you see an animal, you see a lion in person. Yeah. Oh, you see how big it is? I'm like oh my
Starting point is 00:12:25 effing goodness and you know what's funny when I think about cats people that have domestic cats you know your regular cats and you see how quick and how fast and how they can jump and just their reflexes now imagine the size of cats
Starting point is 00:12:41 but also having the same reflexes as a domesticated cat. Yeah. Same, same reflex. But you never get to see it because obviously you don't live in the goddamn wild. And all you do is you get to see him on National Geographic, man. I don't want no parts. I'm telling you, man, I went to see before Sick Friend Roy's show got canceled and Roy got mauled by Maticor. Is that I got tickets. I got my family
Starting point is 00:13:08 tickets to go see the show. Siegfried and Roy at the Mirage. When you sit down and anybody's been to the show, they bring the cast right down the aisle. They bring the cast. The cast, they're running and the cats are behind them. People running alongside them.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I'm sitting on the end and you literally, if you touch out, you can just touch them. Man, that joker head, the lion head is this big. Big, yeah. And all of them white. I said, oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I said, oh nah, I'm good. I'm good. They are huge. And growing up on a farm and seeing bulls and seeing hogs. My grandfather had hogs. But Albert Ron lived to the left of us. Sam McPurtland lived on the right of us. All of those, they had Charlays and Sandy Gertrude,
Starting point is 00:14:01 which is a red cow, white face. And some Herdfords, but mainly Sandy Gertrude and a Char a red cow, white face, and some herdfurs, but mainly Sandy Gertrude and a Charolais. That's the big yellow cow. Bodacious was a chambray, was a charbray, which was a Charolais and a Brahman mixed. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Man, to see those things up close. Now, obviously, I'm a little kid, so they're even bigger but even as i got to be you know as a teenager and i'm 17 18 19 and seeing them i'm like god and you like i said i follow bull right i'm like i'm trying to figure out how they stay on him for eight seconds yeah i i have no idea i have no clue i have no clue listen your core your core got to be on be on point everything else, your core got to be on point.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Everything else in your body has to be working in unison. You got to know what the bull is going to do. I'm sure there's studies. Not Sammy. Santa. Santa Gertrude. Oh, hey, that's crazy. Now you got me excited.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I want to do it again. I want to do it again. You want to do it again? Okay, then go right there. Ooh, there it is. Yeah, let me see. Let's go, boy. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Yeah. Oh, get him. Get him. Get him. Boom, get him. Oh, he was coming. He was coming to get me. He was coming to get me.
Starting point is 00:15:16 He was coming to get me. Hey, that's good shit, though, Joe. That good shit. That good shit. That good shit. Hey, first dude without a Liberty City, man. You're probably going to be the last dude out of Liberty City, too. You're going to probably be the last dude out of Liberty City to get on the bull, too.
Starting point is 00:15:31 That's all right. That's all right. That's all right. I like that. That was loud. That was loud. You did good, though, Joe. Not me.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Yeah. Not me. Me and my brother, we used to jump on the back of pigs back and hell when they threw you yeah you wasn't that high up it hurt oh hell no man that joke a book you're probably about 10 feet up in there coming out oh no hey matter of fact you know what i'm i'm gonna talk to the pbr and it's it's gonna be dope we're gonna have we're gonna do a show we're gonna do a night cap show from a pr PBR event from somewhere. I'm down.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Matter of fact, if you move into Vegas, I'm going to ride the bull in Vegas when they do the Vegas show. Oh, that's the Nationals. That's the what you call them. That's the Nationals. Bingo. PBR. I know y'all going to see this. So the people, if you see this, set me up on a bull.
Starting point is 00:16:23 We're going to do nightcap from Vegas, whatever arena. It's probably maybe a T-Mobile arena. I'm getting back on a bull again. No, I'm going to have you. What we're going to do, we're going to have a thing. You're going to catch chickens. You're going to do what I did as a kid.
Starting point is 00:16:37 You're going to catch chickens. No, man. That's boring. I need something challenging. I need a life-and-death experience. I'm going to see if you can catch those chickens for how many chickens
Starting point is 00:16:48 you can catch in 30 minutes. 30 minutes? Probably about 10,000. 10,000, somewhere around that. Yeah. Listen, I'm too quick. Man, I get inside that hen house, you turn the lights off,
Starting point is 00:17:01 that light. Matter of fact, I'm grabbing six. I'm grabbing six in each hand grabbing six, six in each hand. No, you don't need three with each hand. No, you said in 30 minutes. I want to show you I can get 10,000 chicken in 30 minutes. Even with the chicken leg, you ain't holding six in one hand. The most you'd probably be able to get was four.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Now, man, listen, you know I wear a triple X. See how big my hands are? I wore a 3X glove. Look how big my hands are? I wore a 3X glove. Look how big my hands are. Look, look. I wore double X. I think my hands might be a little... My hands are thick. I mean, I got big, but they're thick.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Yeah, my hands way bigger than yours, bro. Yeah, my hands like Kawhi Leonard, like that. He'd have been great at catching chickens oh yeah yeah see oh joe check this out jason kelsey's wife kylie confronts rude fan after fan arrests her and jason for a picture that they tried to enjoy date night on memorial day weekend a clip shows a woman shouting at kylie i don't give a who you are you'll never be allowed in this town again. Kylie can be heard saying, I can smell
Starting point is 00:18:07 the alcohol in your breath. You're embarrassing yourself. Jason can't be seen taking a backseat as Kylie shuts down the drunk fan. We got that clip? We don't have the clip. Play that thing. Let me hear it. I can't hear her talking. We don't have sound. Oh sound there we go there we go uh jason's wife name is kylie kylie kills yeah she don't she don't she yeah kylie don't
Starting point is 00:18:36 play that the guy don't play you know jason is in a position where he really can't say that wife have that wifey yeah he let wifey handle like. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she don't play that. But see, we've got, Ocho, we've gotten to the point now where people act like a celebrity or sports figure or entertainer can't say no to taking a picture and signing an autograph. We convinced. You asked for this.
Starting point is 00:19:01 This is what you get paid for. Come on. They're on a date night. It says we're on a date night. And then this is the way you behave. Now, alcohol clearly was a factor because Kylie said, I can smell the alcohol in your breath. But
Starting point is 00:19:13 look, whomever the case may be, if they sign it, be gracious. Say, thank you. I really appreciate that. But if they don't, because you don't know, you automatically assume that everybody is having a great day.
Starting point is 00:19:30 And that's the mistake I think a lot of people make, is that everybody's day is going pristine. They might have had a disagreement with the significant other. Something might be going on with their mom or dad or family member. You just don't know. But it's okay if a celebrity says,
Starting point is 00:19:46 no, I don't want to take a picture or I don't want to take a sign, an autograph. It's okay to be told no. Yeah. But we got to the point now, I watch your movies or this or that,
Starting point is 00:19:57 that you feel cornered that you have to say yes. And then if you don't, you're a jerk. You're not not gonna be allowed in the city again like she actually owned the city right right i mean listen i think i understand as a fan i understand where she's coming from because the chance of seeing mr kelsey again will slim the nun and this is one opportunity that you do have due to alcohol being the factor is, I think, why she went off like that.
Starting point is 00:20:28 So Miss Kylie had to address it and stand on business about defending not just her, but her man as well. And them not wanting to take a picture while they're on a date night. Totally understand it. But I mean, everybody, everybody's different's different. Some people are approachable. Some people want to be bothered. Some don't, especially when it comes to celebrities or public figures. It's just all on who it is. It is.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I mean, Ocho, that's why, like, when I went to the Pro Bowl, I really didn't get anything signed because I hated, because, you know, everybody got their family and I never, you know, it's family.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I'm such a, because a lot of times, you know, they come up, I'm such and such daughter, or I'm such and such sister, or I'm such and such brother, I'm such and such mom. So you take a picture. I'm assuming especially when it was at the Iolani, that everybody
Starting point is 00:21:16 that's there is with somebody because for the most part, the NFL took over the whole hotel. So they're either NFL personnel or their family and friends, loved ones of the participants that's in the Pro Bowl. Now it was a lot different when it's at the Hilton Hawaiian village, because it was just open.
Starting point is 00:21:34 And so people can just walk up and you didn't know who the hell they were. And so you like, you're a little bit more apprehensive, but you know, somebody was saying like Jim Kelly was like, Hey, that's my brother. That's my son,
Starting point is 00:21:43 you know, so forth and so on. And like, okay, cool. But man, that's my son, you know, so forth and so on. And like, okay, cool. But, man, it's okay. Let the kids get it. I mean, bro, you coming up there with a helmet. Like, you're going to keep the helmet. I already know you're about to put it on eBay.
Starting point is 00:21:57 eBay and sell it, yeah, most definitely. Hey, speaking of Ihalani, please tell me you remember the French toast from that hotel. My first year, yeah, 93, that was the first year over that we went to the Iholani. Man, listen, I don't know if it was the syrup or I don't know if it was the batter in which they made the French toast with. But, oh, my God. Oh, my goodness. I miss those days. That French toast.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Listen, till this day, I have never forgot. There's another place. If anybody's in the chat, that's from Canada or specifically Montreal. There's a restaurant where I ate breakfast when I had the opportunity to play for the Montreal Alouettes that one year. I ate breakfast at this place all the time called La Avenue. I ain't never had no French toast like that. I don't know if it was the syrup again
Starting point is 00:22:47 or if it was the batter that they made the syrup with, but the Iholani, La Avenue in Montreal, dog, the fucking French toast. To this day, it's been almost a decade. Still the best I've ever had. Still. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.
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Starting point is 00:24:06 podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General. I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
Starting point is 00:24:54 The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The best French toast I've ever had is at Boulevard at the Beverly Wilshire. Yeah. Boulevard? Here in L.A. That's the best French toast I've had.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Okay. It's where they filmed Richard Gere. What's the other? Pretty Woman. That's where they filmed Pretty Woman at. Pretty Woman. The Beverly Wilshire. The French toast there, that's the only thing I order. Yeah. the Beverly Wilshire. The French toast there, that's the only thing I order. The French toast, two eggs
Starting point is 00:25:48 over medium, and bacon. They also have a croissant that's great. That's really, really good. Okay, Ocho. Yo. We're back to your favorite.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Spello Cinco. Y'all know what it is. favorite. Spello Cinco. Y'all know what it is. It's Spello Cinco. Go get that. You need a hat. Hey, chat. Let me get my hat. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's up and stuck. My daughter had my hat. She had my hat.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Playing with my hat, man. Hold on. Let's do what we do tonight, boy. Let's do what we do tonight, boy. Let's go. Wait, wait. Let me do what we do tonight, boy. Let's do what we do tonight, boy. Okay. Let's go, Ocho. The very first word. Wait, wait. Let me hike myself up first. The very first word is volatile.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Ocho doesn't have a volatile personality. Volatile. Volatile. Oh, shoot. That's a good one right there, boy. I know how to spell violent. I'm trying to figure out volatile. Va, va, va.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I know that motherfucker start with a V. I know that much. Va. Va. Yo. Volatile. Volatile. I know I'm going to be wrong but I'm going to wing it I'm going to wing it V-O
Starting point is 00:27:16 L-I T-I-L-E close V-O L-I-T-I-L-E. Close. V-O-L-A-T-I-L-E. Volatile. Okay? This one, I know you're going to get this one.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Damn, man. Impulsive. Impulsive. Oh, impulsive. Now, this is a good word because I was impulsive when I met Rio. Okay. I was very impulsive. So when I met, you know, she slid a DM and she was very impulsive. Yeah, because she knew you wanted.
Starting point is 00:27:56 To reciprocate her impulsiveness, then I became impulsive. I-M-P-U-L-S-I-V-E. That is correct. The next word. Y'all can't do nothing with me. The next word. You talk about, I was the original Achilles to be.
Starting point is 00:28:19 You talking about, one Kiki Palme was me. The next word. Scope, wait. Is ingenuity. It took great ingenuity to build the pyramids of Egypt. Ingenuity. What?
Starting point is 00:28:33 Ingenuity. Okay. All right. Can I ask for a little help real quick? Yes. Does the word begin with an I or E? The word is ingenuity. So you can't tell me if it begins with an I or E?
Starting point is 00:28:57 Ingenuity. Would you like it in a sentence? Give me the word in a sentence, please. The San Francisco, the Golden Gate Bridge took great ingenuity. it in a sentence. Give me the word in a sentence, please. The San Francisco, the Golden Gate Bridge took great ingenuity to build. Ingenuity.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Oh, okay. I think about the word engine, right? It starts with E. But knowing, knowing the English language, ingenuity ain't going to... It got to be an I. Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:29:28 Fuck it. Ingenuity. Ingen. I-G. I-N-G-E-N-U-I-T-Y Ingenuity, correct. Oh, man. That's what I do.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I'm telling you, that's that Harvard education. The next word. Even though I went to Harvard one semester, I was at Ivy League school. SAT, I had an 800. Stop playing with me. That's what I do. You talk about, boy.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Let's go. The next word. You talk about, I'm out of Liberty City. That's me. Procrastinate. You talk about. This is a good one. Procrastinate. And I'm going to tell you why I know how to spell this. Because when I met Real, right right and I keep taking everything back to her because every word you ask me it's reminiscent of when we met because
Starting point is 00:30:31 she tried to get in my panties like the first week I was like nah so I had to procrastinate and make a wait because like I know you fine but oh you finna work for this you finna work for this. You finna work for this. So procrastinate. Pro-P-R-O. Procrastinate. C-R-C-R-A-S-T-I-N-A-T-E. Correct.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Hey, hey. Hey, where you at? Boy, what your boy on one tonight? What would you talk about? The last word. Huh? The last word. Huh?
Starting point is 00:31:17 Come on now, talk to me now. And whatever it is, chat, this is for y'all. Chat, I'm finna get it right because I love y'all. Huh? Ivy League education, boy. Ivy League education
Starting point is 00:31:27 from Liberty City to Harvard. Tax return. Tax return? Oh, that's easy. T-A-X-I-N-R-E-T-U-R-N. Tax return. Let's go. I got it, right?
Starting point is 00:31:46 Tax return. Huh? Oh, taciturn. Wait, what? I thought you said tax return. Taciturn. What the hell is a taciturn? Why, you trying to stump me? At this time, I'm taciturn. Why, you trying to stump me?
Starting point is 00:32:07 At this time, I'm taciturn. Yes. Okay, use it in a sentence so I get a better understanding. At this point in time, I'm taciturn. At this point in time, I'm taciturn. Taciturn. At this point in time, I'm taciturn. Taciturn. Taciturn.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Taciturn. Can you give me a definition? It is a person that's is temporary is a person that's is temporarily disinterested or declining to talk that's a term um
Starting point is 00:32:59 Tassir Tassir alright I'm just wing it T-A-S-I-T-U-R-N T-A-S-I-T-U-R-N T-U-S-I-T-U-R-N Tassit Tassiturn T-A-C-I-T-U-R-N
Starting point is 00:33:16 Tassiturn So I spelled it right Yes I did There's no S I said T-A-C-i s in there i didn't say s i said c uh no what asked the chat i said c i said t-a-c-i-t-u-r-n no what nice man somebody gotta get a playback man
Starting point is 00:33:50 okay hey check this out Ocho the PBR they gave us they said you know what we want you guys to show this again so they gave us access to the replay oh oh
Starting point is 00:34:03 get up get up what oh They gave us access to the replay. Oh! Oh! Get up! Get up what? Oh, hey, look, he stepped on me. Ooh! Ocho. Get up, Ocho! Get up, get up, get up! Ocho.
Starting point is 00:34:16 That wasn't 1.5 seconds, Ocho. I'm sorry. Yes, it was. The clock said 1.5. The clock didn't say nothing. I promise you the clock said 1.5. I clock didn't say nothing. I promise you the clock said 1.5. I looked up and I was happy about it. Chad, do y'all believe Ocho stayed on that bull 1.5 seconds?
Starting point is 00:34:33 All they have to do is look at the live version of me riding and the clock will say 1.5. Ocho, as soon as that bull came out? Nah, because I didn't fall right away. I was still connected to him alright Ocho it's time for your revenge now now it's time for dunk on unk
Starting point is 00:34:56 here we go here we go here we go here we go here we go alright oh this is the good one right here chat we got dunk on honk chat I went three for five I went four for five
Starting point is 00:35:11 my bad we gonna win tonight what year did Roger Goodell become the NFL commissioner what year did Roger Goodell
Starting point is 00:35:24 become the NFL commissioner? Yeah. Oh my goodness. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Oh yeah. It's either one or the other. No, it can't be. It can't be either. It's either one or the other. No, it can't be either.
Starting point is 00:35:47 There's only one answer to it. Ain't no either. 2004? That is absolutely wrong. 2005. Because the year, matter of fact, you're wrong twice. So you're 0-2. The answer is 2006.
Starting point is 00:36:03 What? Hold on. I thought what you call them are technical retired when I retired. You are wrong. Roger Goodell became the NFL commissioner in 2006. Okay, here we go. 0-1. 0-1.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Coaching turnover is a common theme in the modern NFL as a young coordinator makes a name for himself each year. Despite this, what NFL team has only had three head coaches since 1969? What NFL team has only had- Chuck Knoll, Bill Cowher, Mike Tomlin.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Damn. Okay. Okay. My French fries are down. Oh, yeah. Here we go. Who is the only NFL player to receive
Starting point is 00:37:03 the Comeback Player of the Year award more than once? Wow. That's a good one. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Who is the only NFL player to receive the NFL Comeback of the Year award more than once? If I had to guess, and I'm taking a wild guess, Thomas Davis?
Starting point is 00:37:27 Oh, you know what that is a great answer even though it's wrong but the fact that you said Thomas that's a good answer but the answer you were looking for with Chad Hennington man that's some bull jive that man came back from three ACL surgeries
Starting point is 00:37:43 alright oh yeah that man came back from three ACL surgeries alright oh yeah one and two no one and three what NBA general manager ran the process what NBA general manager
Starting point is 00:38:02 ran the process oh man he's from the sixes NBA general manager ran the process. Oh, man. He's from the Sixers. I can't. Let me see. Come on, 1 and 4. Yeah, that database ain't working too good.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Nah, nah. I mean, I can't think. I know who it is. Yeah, yeah. If you knew who it was, you would tell me his name. And it looked like I'm going to win tonight. Yeah, you might get me tonight, don't you?
Starting point is 00:38:52 Yeah, I'm going to win tonight. I'm going to take this on my flight in the morning, my little Spirit Airline flight to Cincinnati. Proud. I'm going to tweet about this all day tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:39:02 You're not Sam Preston. He's in what you call him? I don't know. Sam Hickey. I don't know. Oh, yeah. Preston. He's in what you call him. I don't know. Sam Hickey. I don't know. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, no. You said I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:09 You said I don't know. No, hold on, hold on, hold on. Now, you ain't going to do that. Don't do that, Ocho. No, you can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. Hey, chat, he cheating, chat.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Hold on. Don't say Ocho. Ocho. You said I don't know. And I threw out a name. No, you was looking down. You was looking down at something. You was looking down too long.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Ocho. Ocho, don't do that. Ocho, I just threw out a name. Is it right? No, you looked down. Ocho, you saw me looking at you, Ocho. Hey, you cheating. Oh, my goodness. You was looking down. Really? The check saw me looking at you, Ocho. And you cheated. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:39:45 You were looking down. The check and the test of this. You were looking down for a little bit, and then all of a sudden you said, I don't know, and you threw out Sam Henneke. It's Sam Henke. So that lets me know, Henke, whoever. Two for four.
Starting point is 00:40:01 That's the money. We're right here, Ocho. I'm going to tie it up. You ain't finna tweet out nothing tomorrow. Anyway, here we go. After that cheat. Come on, Chad. Who is the oldest player in the NBA to win an MVP? Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Go ahead. Say that again. Who is the oldest player in the NBA to ever win an MVP? Regular season or postseason? Who is the oldest player in the NBA to win an MVP? Karl Malone. Karl Malone! Why don't you do that?
Starting point is 00:40:36 Don't you do that! Don't you do that! Hey, he cheated. You cheated. You cheated on that. www.unk.com Nah. You cheated on that. www.unk.com. Nah. You cheated on that fourth question.
Starting point is 00:40:49 See, I wanted clarification. You cheated. Because, see, if you said postseason, I'd went with Kareem. But since you went regular season, I went with the mailman. Nah. You cheated on that Sixers question. That's a champ. Nah. Nah. I'm the champ. Nah.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I was down. He was punching. I was dodging. I was roping, doping. He had me on the rope. He had me. One more blow. The ref said, Mr. Sharp, you better fight back.
Starting point is 00:41:23 I'm going to call it. I'm going to call it. I'm going to call it. And then I to call it. I'm going to call it. And then I threw this one hate maker. Boom. Down goes Johnson. Hey, you cheated. Down goes Johnson.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Down goes Johnson. You cheated. You cheated. You cheated. Oh, you cheated on that fourth question. Oh, sure. You said, oh, I'm going to just throw a name out there. You was looking down.
Starting point is 00:41:44 You was looking down at something. Oh, sure, I just never threw a name. It could have been wrong. Nah, nah, nah, oh, I'm going to just throw a name out there. You was looking down. You were looking down at something. It could have been wrong. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. You looked down for like five minutes. What if I threw out a name and it had been wrong? Then all of a sudden you had the name. See, I had a feeling I was right because you paused. It's almost like your
Starting point is 00:41:59 computer glitched when I get one right. Hey, the chat know you cheated on that one, man. Ocho, I done won the majority of them. I done been 5-0. I done gone 5-0. You started asking me questions back to 1800s football. You already give me
Starting point is 00:42:19 no modern stuff. Alright. It's time for Q and A. Hey, somebody just said I was up like the Warriors and Cavs. All right, Ojo. Take down Mags.
Starting point is 00:42:41 They're saying the Mavs lost because Cowboy players were in attendance rooting for them. I didn't say, I mean, you know what? I was watching the game, but Ash was in here harassing me, annoying me. So, hey, look, if they don't win, they all have to win is one game the timberwolves have to win three games if they can't win one of the next three games they don't deserve it i don't give a damn who's in attendance right laney ray said no fair no fair can beat the minnesota state fair
Starting point is 00:43:20 food for the record would y'all eat any of these? Spam curds. I've eaten spam before. Fried spam. Deep fried spaghetti and meatballs. I haven't had spaghetti and meatballs probably since I was a kid. Since Chef Boyardee. I don't order pasta like that
Starting point is 00:43:40 when I go out. Dill pickle lemonade cookie. Nah, I don't like pickles. Tater tot hot dish on a stick. I like tater tots. Especially when they're hot. I like tater tots too. When they come up out there.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Yeah. Yeah, tater tots are a real deal. They got to be hot. Especially right out of the grease. Listen, back in the days when you used to get tater tots with your school lunch on the tray as kids. You know, pizza day. You get your pizza. used to get tater tots with your school lunch on the tray as kids you know
Starting point is 00:44:05 pizza day you get your pizza you get your tater tots you get your little vegetables on the side and you get your little icy your little ice pop damn them all veggies
Starting point is 00:44:13 I ain't never eat no veggies I wanted that I wanted that square ass pizza slice yeah oh yeah the square pizza we got barbecue chicken
Starting point is 00:44:24 the hamburger what else we get spaghetti and meatballs you know damn them veggies man I ain't eat no veggies and that chocolate milk all I want you know when they had that white milk I only got one of those but that chocolate milk
Starting point is 00:44:42 you know chocolate milk was 5 cents Ocho I get me a I only got one of those. But that chocolate milk, you know, chocolate milk was five cents, Ocho. I'll get me a quarter, I'll get me five of them things. I bet you remember Yoo-Hoo. Yeah, the chocolate drink? Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, for sure I remember Yoo-Hoo. And that yellow
Starting point is 00:45:01 bottle. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. What about Tang? You remember Tang? Tang had a medicine-y taste to it to me. Yeah, it did. It did.
Starting point is 00:45:12 It did. You know, but that orange soda, Fanta, or Knee High. You know, Knee High. Fanta. But that Fanta great? Yeah, Fanta great was nice, but I'm going to say. You like that? What'd you say you like?
Starting point is 00:45:27 Check soda. Check. Check grape soda. Check peach soda. A case for $1.50. Check strawberry. A case for $1.50. You got the check at field day.
Starting point is 00:45:37 We used to not come to you. We went field day and they give you check soda and the Wise potato chip. You remember Wise with the hour on the bag, the little blue bag with the owl. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Throwback. Man, I'm the field day champ. Throwback. Did y'all have field day? Yeah, we had field day back then, man. I bet I got so many blue ribbons. Softball throw. The crocosec race.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Aw, man, please. Yeah, the crocosec race was the real deal. Man, Coach Follower said that boy got jackass to him I don't copy I would go you know you grow up on a farm you got crocoseck
Starting point is 00:46:15 we used to practice this all the time oh man that was bad field day man that was so much fun you know you get all the little knickknacks you get the sodas ready to send me a a smack at the school with $1.50. I don't think they have field day no more, man.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Man, the kids don't even, they don't really send the kids outside no more. Yeah, that's... Man, I look forward to, man, I look forward to going out for recess, man. Hell, even when I was in high school, man, I got, hey, I had six periods. So when I put my
Starting point is 00:46:44 recess gym the last period of the day, man, I ain't finna be fucking the whole damn school. Because, you know, we're going to play right up to the bell ring, Ocho. Ain't no way you're going to take, okay, I'm going to go shower. It's 10 minutes, 15 minutes left. I'm going to go shower and get dressed and get knocked. You're going to play right up to the bell ring. All you did was take your shirt
Starting point is 00:47:06 off. You walked to the class with your shirt trying to cool off and put it on and now you funky from second all the way to sixth period. Oh, no. Sixth period. I had my P.E. Sixth period. That's it.
Starting point is 00:47:22 No, but over the days, you're right. You're right, Ocho. Kids don't even... Kids don't do nothing no more. They don't go outside and play. They don't drink out this big like we used to. They own the game. They own their tablets.
Starting point is 00:47:38 They own their phones. During the summer, their mama don't say, go outside and close the door and don't come back in. You know, they don't drink from the water fountain. They don't drink from the water holes on the side of the house. No. Yeah. And you have to let that
Starting point is 00:47:54 thing, because in the summertime, you let that thing, you better let it run. That water burn your ass up. Because you know they just be sitting there in that sun. You got to let that thing run a little bit. Let some of that cool water come through there. But yeah, Ojo, it's different. Now, these kids now.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Okay. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, And if you can find a way to curate and help the
Starting point is 00:48:46 right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair.
Starting point is 00:49:37 And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General. I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. O'Briezen said Shed a question Be 20 times harder Than Ocho
Starting point is 00:50:31 And he still will Ocho You let us down man Every time He had me on the rope He had me I'll do that thing Like Ali
Starting point is 00:50:38 See See they See you got You got people fooled man You not realizing He looking down Cheating for the answer, and then he came up with the...
Starting point is 00:50:47 Oh, Cho. Nah, man. I saw it. I saw it. I'm looking at you. You know what? I can't wait till we go on tour and we have fellow Cito
Starting point is 00:50:57 and ain't nobody got no... Oh, listen. Listen, if it's a crowd, I'm not losing. It's one thing I do. When the lights is on, I show up. I'm not losing. It's one thing I do. When the lights is on, I show up. I'm not losing in front of no people now. All right. Not with this Harvard education.
Starting point is 00:51:12 My question is, who would win a 40-yard dash, Tyreek Hill or Usain Bolt right now? Probably Tyreek. Usain Bolt probably has not run since he retired, since he last ran the 2017 World Championship in which he won the bronze. He probably has not run since then. So I'll take Tyreek because Tyreek is still running. But if Usain Bolt, let's just say Usain Bolt.
Starting point is 00:51:35 I don't know about that part. Oh, Usain ain't running. He was done. He already said he was done. He'd be done. I think he'd still be doing little stuff here and there. He's going to pull something if he hadn't been running to try to get out now. Listen, he'd get out slow.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Nah. His race is from about 50 meters on. But it's already over. Tyreek will be gone. It's over. 40-yard dash. Man, he coming to get that, man. No, not now.
Starting point is 00:52:08 If you ask me, in his prime, when he was training. Oh, it ain't close. It's not even close. That's different. Track speed, football speed, completely different. Very, very, very. Like, you got to see track. Like, you got to see a professional track meet
Starting point is 00:52:26 in person up close then you'll get an appreciation how about this I got one for you I got one for you Christian Coleman Christian Coleman and Tyreek Ray Tyreek a blow the nose off Xavier worthy man Christian Coleman you see how he
Starting point is 00:52:44 get out the blocks? Man, he got the fastest start I ever seen. Fastest start I ever seen. They already done got him time. He ran 4-1-2. So if he were to just say, you know what? I'm just training for the 40. I'm just training for the 40.
Starting point is 00:53:00 And you gave him six weeks. He probably could run sub 4-1. 3-9. Yeah. He'd probably be maybe 3-9-9 4-0-4. Yeah, for sure. Because I think Stanley Floyd... I'm trying to find that footage.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Can anybody find that footage where Stanley Floyd outran a horse in the 40? Stanley Floyd from Georgia. His get-out was crazy. I think they said he ran like a 3-9. ran a horse in the 40? Stanley Floyd from Georgia, he was, I mean, his get out was crazy. I think they said he ran like a 3-9. Can we, can you find a dash? But yeah, Christy Colton, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Man, man, please. That's what I'm saying. Ain't no football player go out and run no track, guy. Not just like, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, sir. They get out too quick.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Like Sam, like the track guys, they thin frame. Like Christian Coleman, but Christian Coleman is, Christian Coleman might be able to be by like 5'7". Yeah, he's not tall.
Starting point is 00:54:03 They small. But that get out. Fred, Fred's not tall. They small. But that get out. Fred Curley, Noah Lyles. Noah Lyles only won like 160. He's like 155. Hey, but them boys moving, boy. I'm talking about moving. We can stay on the floor without running the horse
Starting point is 00:54:26 don't you got him Stanley got him he shot up he shot up out of there Stanley got him and he came out the gates like a horse
Starting point is 00:54:43 hey what was that that was on YouTube yeah that was Stanley got him, and he came out the gates like a horse. Hey, what was that? That was on YouTube? Yeah, that was, they used to have like, I think that was on That's Incredible. Okay, okay. That's Incredible. Tiger Woods was on there. But Stanley Floyd from Georgia. So that's why I know him.
Starting point is 00:55:02 He was, he could run. He was like way before my time, but Georgia has some guys that can run now. Sam, they call him Sam Grady. As a matter of fact, Sam, if I'm not mistaken, Sam Grady ran first leg on his high school track team.
Starting point is 00:55:19 If I'm not mistaken, I think he went to Northside Atlanta. Sam Grady, Emmanuel Blakely, Melvin Latney were three of the guys. I don't remember the other guy. Man, they had two guys in Georgia, Ocho. First place ran 45-35. Second place ran
Starting point is 00:55:36 45-37 in the 400 meters. The boy was booking it. Man, if you ran 48 seconds in the 400, you was Gucci. You was moving. I mean, the only guy I remember in high school running like that was Antonio McKay.
Starting point is 00:55:52 He's from Georgia. He went to Roosevelt. He ran 46. But guys run 46 like it ain't nothing now. Yeah, especially now, yeah. Time to change. Man, you see that big kid from South Carolina? That's 6'5",
Starting point is 00:56:07 240. He's 6'5". Ran 10-1-2 and ran 20.02. I saw him. That's a big old dude, man. His name Nick. I think he go to the University of South Carolina. He made the national.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Yeah, I think his name is Nick Summon, if I'm not mistaken. I saw it on Twitter. Yeah. OK, T said, is PJ and Gafford one of the greatest trades of all time? If Mavs win the final, yes. You'd have to put it up there with Mark Aguirre
Starting point is 00:56:40 when he got traded to the Pistons and they go on and they win back-to-back championships. Who I'm trying to think of a mid-season trade? I'm trying to think of a mid-season. That's the only way I can think of off the top of my head, Ojo. I mean, I would have to like really. Right. Really, really think about it.
Starting point is 00:57:03 But yeah. Yeah. right really really think about it but yeah um yeah yeah in your pro career who was your favorite head coach offensive coordinator position coach you played under man man all my position coach was great but i probably think the guy that had the biggest influence on me was probably less speckle um he was my he was my position coach 93 and 94 and he and i developed a great relationship and uh as a matter of fact every just like clockwork i might not hear from
Starting point is 00:57:46 this man the entire year but when it's my kid's birthday i get a text sweetheart yeah tell he knows he remember my kid's name happy birthday kiara happy birthday kaylee happy birthday uh Happy birthday. Offensive coordinator, Kube. Because Kube was my quarterback my first two years in Denver. So, obviously, he and I had a great relationship. He was the guy that would help me. Hey, he's coming in. I'm coming in. He was the backup. He was the backup quarterback.
Starting point is 00:58:18 I'm backup receiver. He would come over to, hey, he called me greasy. He said, greasy, you know what you got? Because I'm going to be looking for you now. He said, look, it's going to be this coverage. Do this. So he's telling me what I need to do. So I've always had a great relationship with
Starting point is 00:58:33 him. And so he, Mike was great, but Dan, no, look, Mike was great. I learned so much from Mike how to be a pro what it takes to win to really
Starting point is 00:58:50 win how to be unselfish do things for the betterment of the team but I don't think any of that's possible without Dan Rees because not only did Dan draft me he forgot to cut me
Starting point is 00:59:04 and he believed in me he believed in about Dan Reeves. Because not only did Dan draft me, he forgot to cut me. And he believed in me. He believed in me. He told me he believed in me. He told me that I was too big, too fast, too strong, not to make a decent living in the NFL. So for that, I'll be forever grateful.
Starting point is 00:59:19 But it was Mike that made me a champion and told me what it took to be a champion. The work I had to work at, but the prep and the study and the attention to detail and the situation in that what he expected of me held me to almost the standard in which I held myself. But I was very, very
Starting point is 00:59:35 fortunate to have a coordinator and position coach and a head coach that all my coaches were great. Wade Phillips came out the day and he was the D coordinator. He was great. But man, I've been very,
Starting point is 00:59:52 very fortunate. I really didn't have a whole lot of coaches that I bumped head with because, Ocho, I came to work and I was a pro the way I approached the job and a professional because that was the job that I had. Who was your favorite coach?
Starting point is 01:00:08 I think my favorite coach. I've had some good ones. I've had some good ones. Obviously when I was drafted to the draft, to the, to the Bengals, obviously was a coach at the time and for anyone that's ever had the opportunity to meet dick laboe he's about one of the one of the nicest coolest
Starting point is 01:00:29 gentlemen though i've ever met i've ever met and i thought it really couldn't get any better than him his presence uh obviously we weren't winning at that time but just being able to be around dick and and hear some some of the stories that he told, you know, during those times, during those days, a legend, a legend in his own right. Obviously, my position coaches, I've had some great position coaches, Steve Muschagin, Alex Wood, Mike Shepard. And obviously the one who meant the most to me and had the most impact on my career on and off the field was Hugh Jackson. Hugh Jack? Hugh Jackson. Yeah, Hugh Jackson, man.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Still to this day, we keep in touch. I see it from time to time with you out here. I do. Yeah? I do. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, Marvin Lewis, obviously, we know how much he means to me. And Hugh Jackson have been huge, huge,
Starting point is 01:01:27 huge inspirations, not just as coaches, but off the field and some of my decision-making, some of my structure and discipline when it comes to the way I live, the way I spend. If you watch Hard Knocks and Marvin kind of alluding to some of the things that I should do with my money, they've been fascinating. And it's still to this day, to be able to some of the things that I should do with my money. They've been fascinating. And it's still to this day, to be able to pick up the phone and call Hugh or call Marvin out the blue like this, and they answer and pick up is awesome. It's awesome. The Real McCoy said, Ocho, does the man carry the shopping bags out with this lady or to
Starting point is 01:02:04 go food bag if you're out to dinner and she doesn't finish her food? Man, listen, if I go shopping with Real and she purchases anything, I have the same rules for my kids. If you buy it, you carry it. I ain't going shopping. For my kids, if I buy something for you, you carry it. If we go somewhere to eat. That's your food. And you order something and you take a doggie bag, you carry your bag.
Starting point is 01:02:34 We're not handicapped. What is this? This ain't the 1600s. Talk about. Yeah, I would chew on that one, Ocho. I don't like to go shopping. So here, I'll reach you on that one, Ocho. I don't like to go shopping. So here, I know you go... Listen, I shop online anyway.
Starting point is 01:02:50 I don't need to. Now, unless I'm going to Target, unless I'm going to Target or Walmart, there's really no need, or H&M, oh, my bad, or Zara, there's really no need to go, oh, my bad, Urban Outfitters, there's really no need to leave the house.
Starting point is 01:03:04 I ain't shopping. I can't, I probably haven't been. Especially if you know your sizes. I probably haven't been in a store and tried on something in a decade. You get everything custom made, huh? If it's something like Shelly just have it sent to the house, I try it on, I like it.
Starting point is 01:03:22 If not, she send it back because she's coming out here every, you know, 14 days, 17 days. She's going to come out and she'll send it back. If I like it, need alterations, I'll have Ashok come over. He'll take it up. We good to go. But go in the store
Starting point is 01:03:38 and try it on? Nah. Those days over for Shannon. Those days over for Shannon. Ain't going to be locked. When it come, I'm going to hit Target now. I'm going to hit Target. You know, like
Starting point is 01:03:52 shower gel, you know, toiletries and stuff like that. I'm still going. I mean, I can't stay. Man, look. I have a nurse come to the house. If I have to do blood work, the nurse comes to the house. The groomers come to the house to take you to bathe the dogs.
Starting point is 01:04:09 The vets come to the house. Any dog, anytime the dog needs worm medications or vaccines or something like that, the vet comes. When I was getting a massage, the lady comes. I go out to the guest house.
Starting point is 01:04:21 I get a massage. Ocho, literally, I was like, I wasn't leaving to do anything. I get a massage. Ocho literally. I was like, I wasn't leaving to do anything. I'm like, I would just go. I would just go to work and come home. And I'm like, right. That was had even gotten.
Starting point is 01:04:40 And I could do the same thing over and over for years. I could eat the same thing over and over for years. But that had gotten. I got to get out of the house and do something on my own. I could eat the same thing over and over for years but that had gotten more I got to get out of the house and do something on my own so yeah I'm a creature of habit like that as well obviously I've done the same thing consistently
Starting point is 01:04:55 through the years my routine hasn't changed now what I've had what I've learned now obviously due to my situation and circumstance I can get complacent with that routine. At times, I do have to switch things up. And I think that's one of the things I also need to work on because I'm so content and I am a creature habit. And I get in a certain pattern of doing the same thing over and over and over and over again.
Starting point is 01:05:22 So that's pretty much it. I went a little too far. And with personal shit, we're supposed to be talking about places. Yeah, but I was saying, I do the same thing, man. I was like, and it's just like,
Starting point is 01:05:36 you know, the lady comes, Blanca and Vicky come, they clean the house. Hey. Yeah. Look, there's only one way. Either you do it, either you hire somebody to do it, they clean the house they yeah it's look there's only way either
Starting point is 01:05:46 either you do it either you hire somebody to do it because you can't or you don't want to right so I want to do all that stuff so guess what
Starting point is 01:05:55 I pay somebody to do it it is really that simple I don't want to go say no offense oh we running a little late I'm gonna to be mad. So guess what? I have the phlebotomist to come to the house.
Starting point is 01:06:11 She's going to be here a certain amount of time. Her name's Sherelle, too. Hey, she come take the blood work, send it off. I get the results back. Ain't nobody upset. I didn't sit in traffic. Oh, I'm sorry, Mr sorry mr sharp we're running a few
Starting point is 01:06:25 minutes late uh i'm sorry mr sharp could you come back tomorrow hell no there's a reason why i schedule it today i have standing appointments like when i was in atlanta ocho i paid all my appointments at the beginning of the year i paid for my haircut in full. I paid for my facial in full. My massage therapist in full. Fingernail, nail, mani-pedi in full. Well,
Starting point is 01:06:53 you got that boy. You got that bag. If I need, now, they're more apt. If I need to come in and move something around, they're more apt to move that around for me. Because you've already paid for it.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Tip included. Everything is included. I like that. So, Javert Park. Hey, Uncle Nocho, I'll be getting married this summer and wanted to extend y'all an invite
Starting point is 01:07:21 to y'all. Is there an email I can send it? Do you have any advice on becoming a provider? Bro, that's all I, that's my purpose. I wait, see, they say, a man that finds purpose finds peace. What's your purpose? My purpose is I'm a provider
Starting point is 01:07:38 for my family. That's what gets me up out of bed. Knowing that I got people counting on me to provide, that's my purpose. So I've always done it. I've always wanted to do it. Ever since I was a little boy, Ocho, I wasn't making a whole lot of money,
Starting point is 01:07:56 maybe $25 a week. But guess what? 10 of that was going to go to granny to do something. And it gave me a sense of pride. Here I am a kid, I'm 10'm 10 11 years old eight years old and i'm giving my grandmother 10 a week to help with something man the sense of pride that i felt by doing that man please and now it's to know my sister and my brother uh count me, to know my kids know that if they need something, they can count on me, to know my mom be wasting my money on the slot machine. On a damn slot machine.
Starting point is 01:08:39 That makes me feel good, Ocho. So it's like, bro, that's your responsibility. I told my son, I said, bro, you took, you got a wife. You can't just think of you. You gotta think of her. I said, now you got a son. Yeah. Now you gotta think of him, her, then you.
Starting point is 01:08:58 There's order. Yeah. That's how I think. I don't think about me. I think about my kids, my sister, my mom. I think about them first. Then, if there's something left over, okay, that's for me. But I'm cool with that.
Starting point is 01:09:12 But it's nothing to it, bro. Hey, you're going to be great. Congratulations on the wedding. Where y'all going? Destination wedding? If he invited for the wedding and he needs a performance, I'm available for that.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I have a production company. We can sing. We can rap. Whatever you need. Let me know. Nah. Hell nah. That's the thing. i don't know what your what's your purpose oh joe yeah my purpose true well obviously i had as many jokes as i do make obviously to provide and that's always that's always been my purpose and always been my go-to, especially as a father as well.
Starting point is 01:10:07 And obviously, you know, sometime this time next year, I'll be a husband and to continuously provide and continuously being not just a better man, but being a better husband, being a better partner. All that stuff is, I don't want to use the word trial and error but it's a learning process it's a learning process as you go you learn and you learn as you go but what I do what I do want to do is I don't want to be a statistic you don't want to be that
Starting point is 01:10:38 I don't want to be a statistic yeah I don't want to so I was able to do it in one sport I was able to do it in football sport. I was able to do it in football. You know, statistically, there's a high percentage of us that go broke, you know? And I pride myself
Starting point is 01:10:51 in being one of the few in that percentage that hasn't. So I want to do and take that same energy when it goes into that union and not want to be a statistic in that area as well. That's great.
Starting point is 01:11:03 That's great. Just want to work at it, bro. You got to work at a marriage just like you worked at your career. You tried to get better each and every day. You try to get better each and every year.
Starting point is 01:11:13 And that's the same approach that you have to take in your relationship. But you'll be fine. I mean, you and Rel seem happy. Y'all a great couple together. I love seeing you guys together. When I'm around, you guys seem like y'all have so much fun.
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