Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Ocho trash talk, Jerry Jones antics, Caitlin Clark snubbed

Episode Date: October 4, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” dive into Ocho trash talking and challenging his good friend and ex-Pittsburgh Steeler James Harrison to an MMA fight. Later, Unc and Ocho are done with Jerry J...ones after he landed his helicopter on the field DURING practice, Caitlin Clark gets snubbed one vote from being unanimous Rookie of the Year and much more!03:18 - Anthony Richardson10:10 - Gronk on Belichik15:19 - Christian McCaffery Injury22:11 - Ocho v James Harrison27:25 - Jerry Jones Helicopter Landing on Practice Field29:25 - Travis on Colorado Fans35:00 - Caitlin Clark ROY41:44 - Q and Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:35 Oh, Joe, Anthony Richardson talked about being injury prone. Let's take a listen to what AR had to say. Bam. People might say you're injury prone. What's your response to that? Or how do you feel about that lately? I mean, it's football. I'm pretty sure they got out of the house and came out here and got hit by somebody
Starting point is 00:02:52 that's running 20 plus miles per hour, you know, every week. You know, I'm pretty sure they'll be sore dealing with injuries as well. So, you know, people are going to talk. You know, that's what people do. So I'm not necessarily worried, but I'm just trying to focus on getting better day by day. I had a coach told me once. What did you think, Coach Joe? The best ability is availability.
Starting point is 00:03:15 We know it's a game of football. Everybody running 20, 25 plus miles per hour is a contact sport. If you know that, get out. It's a contact sport. You've got to be able to protect yourself especially at the quarterback position now because you were good last year because you're injured now you might have a hip injury or angle whatever it may be they're going to call you injury prone yes and that late that label is going to stick especially if it starts early on your
Starting point is 00:03:40 career so you just got to find a way to take yourself man listen anthony richardson is a special talent he's a special talent he has he has a chance an opportunity to change the structure of that coach franchise you know i'm not saying he's going to be peyton manning but he has a chance to get it going in the right direction with a along with the other young quarterbacks like jade the jane the jayden daniels the cj strouds We just need him on the field. We need him on the field healthy and upright. So I'm hoping he has a speedy recovery. But right now, based on what we've seen the past two seasons, you would be just that, injury prone. Ocho, this is where I'm going to have to disagree with you.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Football is not a contact sport. What is it? Football not a contact sport. What is it? Football is a collision sport. A collision is contact. When two things collide, that's contact. See, contact is minimal. Right. People collide.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I like it. I heard somebody best describe football this way. Football is a lot like nuclear warfare. There are no winners, only survivors. You don't win at football. You survive the game. You survive football. Because think about it.
Starting point is 00:04:53 You say if somebody ran into you at 20 miles an hour, but you think about this. People are running at you at 20 miles an hour over and over and over and over and over and over again. 15, 20, 25, 30, 40, 50 times a game. That's what I tell people. You want to know what it's like to play NFL football. Go to Lowe's and get your hard hat and put on your biggest coat and get 10 yards away from your garage.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Get five yards away from your garage and run into it as hard as you possibly can. 20 times. Okay, now do it again 30 times and then do it again 40 times and i tell you what just for good measure come back and do it again on thursday because you got a short week now you know what it's like to play football and everybody talking about he's soft he's soft you wouldn't last one day yeah let alone a season so So stop it. I love how people talk about, he's soft.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Bro, you don't know what soft is. You soft for the drugstore cotton. All y'all out there bumping them guns. Oh, he's soft. He's soft. He's scared. Bro, there's a reason why you on your couch talking. Thought you was scared. Now you know
Starting point is 00:06:06 that I had to go through two times a year against the Ravens. Two times a year against the Steelers. Yes! But you know, I was able to do it without getting injured for years. Can I tell you why
Starting point is 00:06:22 I never got hurt? What? Nutrition. Ocho, the same way people that never drink get cancer, the same way people that do eat certain things, there are certain people that eat or eat whatever and never get a disease. Right, yeah. But there are some people that eat everything, boom.
Starting point is 00:06:46 So ain't no rhyme or reason, Ocho. It ain't. What about the people that don't smoke and get cancer? Get lung cancer. Yeah. Get throat cancer. And there are people that smoke, been smoking 70 years. Take their last breath. Oh, well, he had a cigarette in his hand.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Some people smoke 70 years, Ocho, and never get it. And there are people that never smoke the cigarette or cigar, never drank anything. I just stopped trying to figure out why. Look, this is the way it's intended to be. Hey, let me make the most of my time while I'm here. But Anthony Richardson, you're going to have to learn how to get down because you're never going to be big enough to run over
Starting point is 00:07:28 those guys. They'll break you, bro. They'll break you. I understand. You 6'5", 244, and you ran 4'4", 4'5". Yeah. He's going to be all right, though. He's going to be all right. Get him healthy. Stay on that field. yeah he gonna be he gonna be alright though he gonna be alright
Starting point is 00:07:48 get him healthy stay on that field he gonna be alright Ocho he gotta protect himself yeah I mean you know what
Starting point is 00:07:55 they gotta stop running I'm blocking for you hold on Ocho is just like me I'm blocking for you Ocho on the jailbreak screen okay once you break that
Starting point is 00:08:01 and you see all them three guys Ocho gonna go down man come on now but listen the coach has got the has got to save him from himself. Stop fucking running him. Stop calling plays where he's run first. They got to change some of the play calling. I understand you can take off because nobody's open.
Starting point is 00:08:19 That's one thing. But design play runs, I think when he got hurt if i'm not mistaken that might have been a design play run i if i'm not mistaken no he scrambled on that one but no the what but actually he got hurt to play before because remember he got up limp and he scrambled right and got up to play before and then the next one was a quarterback run was a design run see what i mean yeah see what I mean that's on the god damn coast yes if I'm a defender if he ain't protecting you why the hell should I
Starting point is 00:08:51 they the one that's running you I'm going to try to drop helmet on you every time yes so A protect yourself bro protect yourself they not going to protect you.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Because think about it. They go a whole game. They already done said they can't put in the pocket. They got to put a blanket and get a nice little pillow and lay you down. They can't dump you like they used to. So, once you get outside that pocket and you get past that line of scrimmage boy they trying to ooh
Starting point is 00:09:28 ooh boy they're hunting out there man for sure I know I would I mean the rules are already in the offensive favor so eh if I'm a defender they want to keep the star quarterbacks on the field The rules are already in the offensive favor. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:45 You know, the rules... If I'm a defender... They want to keep the star quarterbacks on the field. Well, it's your job. It's the offensive coordinator's job, and it's his job to stay on the field. Because if you break that line of scrimmage, I'm trying to split your mofo down.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Yeah. I'm trying to. Mm-hmm down. Yeah. I'm trying to. Because that greatly increases my chance of winning. Hey, I'm hitting you as hard as legal. Look, I don't want people to misconstrue this. I'm never going to hit anybody cheap unless you hit me cheap. Then I'm going to get you back.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Yeah, I'm going to get my lick back. I just want you to know I'm going to get my lick back. But in that situation, I ain't going to hit him cheap yeah but boy rob gronkowski thinks bill belichick would go to the jags if the position opens up no rock said i think coach belichick would pick up the phone if jacksonville call and they had a head coaching vacancy would jacksonville be a good landing spot for Coach Belichick? Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I think the Giants is his first priority. He loves the Giants. He knows John Mara. He was very familiar with his dad, Wellington, who started the Giants, risked his soul, Mr. Mara. Yeah. I think he's very—that's the place I think the Giants. The Jags?
Starting point is 00:11:09 Now, it all depends, Ochoa, if that's the only thing that's available. No, he's not going. He's not going to the Giants either. Bill Belichick is not putting himself in the same situation he was in when Tom Brady left the Patriots. Oh, he ain't got no quarterback? Yeah, because you put yourself right back in the same shithole. Well, where the hell are you going? They got a good quarterback. People that got a good quarterback, the Bakers ain't got no quarterback? Yeah. Because you're right back. You put yourself right back in the same shithole. Well, where the hell are you going? They got a good quarterback.
Starting point is 00:11:27 People that got a good quarterback, the bankers ain't going to be available. Who said he was leaving? Nobody said he wanted to coach again. He didn't say that. Watch out. You're going to just cough and they're going to cover your mouth? Oh, my bad. I'm at home.
Starting point is 00:11:38 My bad. Damn. My bad. Yeah. That's the air freshener. The little air freshener she bought me. That ain't got nothing to do with you covering your mouth? I'm saying it just sprayed.
Starting point is 00:11:48 It just sprayed and it came over me. You want to see it? No. Yeah, I see the air freshener, but damn. You done called now. Hell, I might got COVID. My bad. You ain't got nothing?
Starting point is 00:11:58 Bring me that air freshener, baby. Huh? Man, you know the joke is down there in Liberty City. Ain't no telling what they carrying. We ain't no telling what they care we ain't got nothing down here we ain't got nothing down yeah but but again to get back on topic excuse me my bad chat my bad but to get back get back on topic you know the jags or the giants there wouldn't be two places look at the quarterback situation with the jag trevor lawrence i mean obviously right now is not playing good football he's probably going to get his coach fired. Players get coaches fired. He's probably going to get his coach
Starting point is 00:12:25 fired at some point. True. The Giants, we know how that situation is going. Malik Nabors, hey, he nasty. He's their... They got Tebow, they got Dexter Lawrence, they got some decent players. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Thomas at left tackle. You need a quarterback. A consistent quarterback to win. You've been loving Daniel Jones. What? You've been loving Daniel Jones. I said nothing about Daniel Jones. I said Malik.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I said Malik neighbors has saved Daniel Jones. He saved him. I mean, he Daniel Jones. I mean, Daniel Jones, Malik neighbors been there for days, and he's the best goddamn player on the field. Yeah. I don't see, I don't see, I don't see coughing on the camera. Huh? I'm asking the champ what they think about you
Starting point is 00:13:15 coughing on camera like that. It wasn't even a cough like that, it was just a, uh. Yeah. That wasn't bad? Bad? Bad? Bad? Yeah. That one bad? Man. Man. Man, y'all don't know Ocho.
Starting point is 00:13:31 The boy died in Liberty City. Baby. Ocho. Ocho. Hey, Ray. Huh? Man, they said the boy died in Liberty City. Say a monkey had Ebola.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Bit of dude died in Liberty City. And the monkey died. So what the hell is this? Don't do that. Don't do that. I ain't do nothing. I didn't cough.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I didn't cough. It was more of a sneeze than a cough, though. Yeah. Think about it. Sneeze come out of 200 miles an hour. It was more of a sneeze than a cough, though. That? Think about it. Sneeze come out of 200 miles an hour. Yeah, but in just me, I'm at home. I came through the camera. Bet I had to spray my sleeve.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I had to spray up. Nah, ain't nothing wrong with me. I'm good. I feel better now. I'm a lifer all day. It's just funny the fact that I'm in the comfort of my own home. If I was out in public, I'm good. I feel better now. I'm a lifelong dad. It's just funny the fact that I'm in the comfort of my own home. If I was out in public, I would have, like, right away. Yeah, but
Starting point is 00:14:33 Bill ain't coming out. Bill ain't doing that. Oh, Joe. Yeah. Christian McCaffrey's dad, Ed, who I played with, overtraining caused the tendinitis. Ed said tendinitis is an overtraining caused the tendinitis. Ed said, tendinitis is an overtraining injury, meaning you're training too hard
Starting point is 00:14:50 or doing too much, and it turns into tendinitis. If I would say that, the Christian has a weakness, is that sometimes he has to protect himself from himself in terms of training too much
Starting point is 00:15:02 and doing too much. Remember I talked about, Ocho, a lot of these injuries, because guys don't give their bodies enough time to recover, to repair itself. Yeah. Yeah, you did say that. See, I don't know much about tendonitis. I don't know much about overtraining because I mean quiet is kept God you ain't do it
Starting point is 00:15:26 yeah I mean I don't think I don't think I overtrained but I think I did put the body through the ringer to make sure it's able to withstand a 16 game season especially on our day when we were actually playing what I like to call real no disrespect I like to call it real football
Starting point is 00:15:43 yeah I think the thing Ojo I think the thing is is that real, no disrespect. I like to call it real football. Yeah. I think the thing is, is that you got like, most athletes when they're trained, I'm trying to get to a point like, okay, I'm ready to go. And then when the season,
Starting point is 00:16:00 man, these guys, they peaking in May and June for what? Yeah. The season starts in September. Way too soon. Yes. Take some time.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Let your body recover. I mean, these guys, they take off. Oh, I'm back training. I'm back in the lab, bro. Yeah. I get it. I get it. But, bro, you you gotta let your body
Starting point is 00:16:26 heal Ocho you gotta let that thing even though it's more probably more mental now than physical it's still a physical game now don't they they still play tackle football they just don't tackle they don't allow them to tackle like they once did and I get it
Starting point is 00:16:42 I got no problem with that. You understand? The more you know, the better you can help a sport. They know more now. They know where the collisions come from. They understand that the concussions, a lot of them happen like 30, 40, 50%
Starting point is 00:17:00 happen on the kickoff. Hence, that's why they went to the kickoff like they did. And you see Commissioner Goodell talking about putting the ball at the 35 instead of the 30. Because here we are, what, week four, and we've only had
Starting point is 00:17:16 one return with that new kickoff? Yeah. I get it. Like I said, Ed was a guy that took care of his body, spent a lot of time in the cold tub. He got massages. He stretched.
Starting point is 00:17:30 So, you know, Ed was tough because Ed took some shots. Some of those shots that Ed took, hell, I probably would have played about eight or nine years taking some of the shots that he took because he threw caution to the wind. He would go and, you know, make a play on the football. And it's frustrating for him because he knows how his son wants to be. He's very unique. It's been a while that we had a white running back
Starting point is 00:17:53 that was the best running back. That hadn't happened in three decades, four decades. It's been a while. You got to go back to John Riggins, that you had a white running back that was the best running back. Yes. Yeah. And that's what C-Mac is.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I've known him his whole life. Before he even knew himself, I knew him. And so it's tough to see because I know how much he cares. I know how much he puts into it. And not to be able to play. But the thing is, what he has to understand, bro, you just need to be like 90% when you get to the season. So that way, bro, they're going to run you, bro, they're going to get it out of you.
Starting point is 00:18:38 They're going to give you 20 carries and you're going to catch another five to eight. So you're going to get 25 to damn near 30 touches a game. Yeah, man. And hopeless a blowout. And now you got a quality backup. So they really could like, oh man, they can really say,
Starting point is 00:18:53 see Matt until later in the season. Because I think it was his name. Jordan Mason. Jordan Mason. Jordan Mason. Jordan. Yeah. Jordan Mason.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Okay. Jordan Mason. He's good. He's good. So, but I just hope, I just hope he can, um,
Starting point is 00:19:08 the tendonitis goes away. Um, they said, I guess he, uh, you know, probably another four to six weeks. God damn.
Starting point is 00:19:16 It's tough. Oh, Joe, I ain't gonna lie, bro. You ain't never had it, but what I did tonight is whoo. I had it in my knee.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Yeah. I've had a couple of times on my elbow. Cause I dislocated my elbow. Right. And sometimes it'll, you know, I had it in my knee. Yeah. I've had it a couple of times in my elbow because I dislocated my elbow. Right. And sometimes it'll, you know, it'll flare up. Like I said, I had it in my Achilles and my right Achilles in 1989. That was my senior year in college. You know, they put a little medicine up under the skin.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Dang. They wouldn't do that now. They wouldn't do that now. I just want to thank God, man, for blessing me, man, because, man, let me knock on wood. I ain't never. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming,
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Starting point is 00:21:50 Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ocho, you and James Harrison about to go three rounds. I'm fighting James Harrison in an exhibition, MMA format, three rounds about New Orleans before the Super Bowl. I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Debo said, it's five rounds, Ocho. I'm going to beat your ass in round one so don't have to worry about the other four. I'm so excited. Debo said, it's five rounds, Ocho. I'm going to beat your ass in round one, so don't have to worry about the other four. I'm standing on business. Yeah. I mean, listen. James Harrison is I consider him a
Starting point is 00:22:37 friend of mine, a great competitor, one of the most fiercest defensive players of all time. Unbelievable, crazy animal-like training regimen. I owe him my ass for that.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I challenged him to an MMA fight. He thinks because of his size, because of him being strong, that really means nothing. In the octagon, I'm probably going to beat his ass, just being honest. I canagon, I'm probably going to probably beat his ass. Just being honest. You will tap him out?
Starting point is 00:23:07 Yeah. Because what he's going to probably, I can tell you what he's going to do because of my size, he's going to be aggressive. He's going to rush in, you know, not understanding my groundwork
Starting point is 00:23:16 is impeccable, similar to that of Khabib, you know, and I would probably choke his ass out with a guillotine. That's what's gonna happen because he doesn't he doesn't have the martial the martial arts background that i do oh joe i'm not so sure that if you get him on the ground you can keep him there it doesn't you don't understand
Starting point is 00:23:37 he has no groundwork like i've i perfected and mastered my craft and different strategies and techniques in martial arts, man, and Muay Thai. I'm going to beat the shit out of James Harrison, huh? Muay Thai? Muay Thai, that's what I said. I said Muay Thai. Okay. I thought you said Muay Thai. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I thought you were talking about Muay Thai. And I got people all on Twitter talking about, oh, he's going to beat you. Have you ever seen him training? Like, have y'all ever played a competitive sport? There was always a disadvantage you know all on twitter to our oh he gonna beat you have you ever seen him training like have y'all ever played a competitive sport there was always a disadvantage depending on position that you play based on people's size and strength that shit don't mean nothing when it's me and him in that octagon oh i'm telling you remember the story of david and goliath
Starting point is 00:24:20 that's what it's gonna be that that's what that's what it's going to be. That's what it's going to be. And a lot of people are underestimating our skill. Chad, don't tell Ocho. I'm putting my money on Devo. Don't tell Ocho. Hey, listen, if you're a betting man and you put your money on Devo, well, you're going to be mad. You're going to be mad.
Starting point is 00:24:44 You saw the movie Troy. Don't tell him. Don't tell Ocho, though. Yeah, Ocho, I believe you got it. Yeah, all right. Don't tell Ocho. I'm putting all my money on Devo. Yeah, Ocho, I believe you.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Yeah, I think you're going to choke him out. I hope you believe in your co-host. I would hope you don't go against him. I believe. I got you, bro. Hey, I ride with Ocho all the way. Yeah. Listen, I have a set of skills, a set of skills that I perfected through hours and hours and years and years of training and combat sports.
Starting point is 00:25:19 You know, once I get him on the ground and I'm able to. That's my point! What? Hell, if I can get a gator on his back, if I can get his mob closed, I can beat him. Hold on. Well, you have to understand, I know what he's going to do. He's going to be aggressive. He's going to rush
Starting point is 00:25:37 because you don't want to stand up with me. If he stand up with me, man, I'm going to just... Get up out of there. Get stand up with me, man, I'm just, I'm a pop, pop, pop, get up out of there, pop it, pop, pop, get him up out of there, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, hey, you hear me? He don't want to stay, he don't want to stay, he don't want to go toe to toe, so he has to take me to the ground, he don't have the ground game, he don't have the ground work, or he's not going to have the stamina or the cardio to hang with me, That's how I'm going to beat his ass.
Starting point is 00:26:05 And that's what's going to happen. So James Harrison, you see this, and if we see each other before the fight in February in New Orleans, it's on sight. On sight. That's what I'm talking about. On sight. Don't you want to make it to the fight? I'm going to make it to the fight.
Starting point is 00:26:23 What do you think? He do you think? You know, he gonna, he gonna whoop me in person. No, I got you. I would hope you do. I would hope everybody in the chat also has me as well. And stop looking at people because of their size and thinking they can,
Starting point is 00:26:37 they can whoop you. It is. It's not the size of the dog in the fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog. Fuck y'all. Oh, he big. Oh, he strong. So what? He put his fucking pants on the same way I do. One leg as a matter of fact, I put my pants on
Starting point is 00:26:55 three legs at a time. I don't know what he do. Yeah, but his pants could affect Mickey Mouse though. Hey, hey, that boyfriend is getting his work. And the funny thing about it, like, the bigger they are, the harder they fall, baby. Chat, y'all just make sure y'all with me, man. Y'all make sure y'all with me.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Hey. Yeah, you might need all these 30,000 of these fans with you to get Deebo up off your ass. What? Man, I'm telling you, man. I'm telling you, I'm good. You'll see. I'm a surprise. Jerry Jones has a flair for the dramatic, and he showed it once again why he's the most high-profile owner. Man, I'm telling you, man. I'm telling you, I'm good. You'll see. I'm a surprise.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Jerry Jones has a flair for the dramatic, and he showed it once again why he's the most high-profile owner. Jerry Jones rides the team practice facility by helicopter and landed on the field. As the helicopter landed, Cowboys players and staff stopped what they were doing and cleared the field while Jerry Jones made his dramatic arrival. See what I'm saying, Ocho? No, see what you're saying dramatic arrival see what i'm saying don't you see no see what you're saying you see what i'm saying we we we talk about you know what i'm sick of saying the same thing you can't be the center of attention you can't want all the attention i think every owner also
Starting point is 00:27:59 has a helicopter i think every other owner also owns the yacht i think every other owner especially the hunt family who continues to win all the time you know year in a year out i don't see them in front of the camera i don't see them landing their helicopters on the goddamn field you want to minimize all the distractions so your players your coaches your staff and everybody can focus on the task at hand. But here we go. Let me go land my helicopter on the field. Man,
Starting point is 00:28:32 I'm going to let you know. I keep saying the same thing, man. You told me he's going to do things his way and this is the prime example of just that. What's the Cowboys record right now? They 2-2, right? Are they 2-2?
Starting point is 00:28:48 Oh, they 5-0? Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. Lost to New Orleans and they lost to Baltimore and then they beat the Giants and they just beat somebody the other day.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I forget who they beat the other day. I don't know, man. I'm going to sit down and talk with Jerry myself, man. Oh, they beat Cleveland. Remember they beat Cleveland in the first game of, they beat Cleveland. Remember they beat Cleveland? Oh, that's right. And they beat the Giants?
Starting point is 00:29:08 Yeah. And then they lost to the Saints, and they lost to the Ravens. That's crazy. Travis Hunter went on Destroying's podcast and said he wishes he could stay in Colorado and play for the Broncos because of the love the community has shown him. He says, neighbors, leave signs before the game and watch his dog when he's on the road. That's dope. That's live.
Starting point is 00:29:33 That's live. It is. I mean, hey, look, that's one thing. Bronco country, hey. They love you, huh? They love... What? Oh, my God. They love... Look, obviously, he,
Starting point is 00:29:45 obviously he's, he's a phenomenal player. Phenomenal player. Did you see that? Did you see that goddamn picture of him, that video of him
Starting point is 00:29:54 playing basketball? Oh yeah. He got some, yeah, he can elevate. Oh boy. But I can just imagine if he was,
Starting point is 00:30:01 if he played for the Broncos. Yeah. Lord, have mercy. And could you imagine him and Pat Sertain Jr.? One on one side, Travis Hunt on the other.
Starting point is 00:30:10 They'd lock it down for sure. They'd lock it down for sure. But unfortunately, I don't know. The Broncos, I mean, I don't think the Broncos would take him. I mean, he's there, obviously. Ain't nobody passing him up unless you need a quarterback, you don't pass him a player like that. Unless you need a quarterback. Because all things being equal, Joe, I'm always going to take a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I don't give a damn. I don't care. I need a guy that's going to score the points. Quarterback, because he touched the ball too much. Yeah, he touched the ball too much. But sometimes the person that touched the ball too much can also put you in harm's way, as we've seen so far. Obviously, all quarterbacks are created equal. But I give you a choice.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Patrick Mahomes or Travis Hunter? Oh, come on, man. You just talk about... Josh Allen or Travis Hunter? Lamar Jackson or Travis Hunter? Jane Daniels or Travis Hunter? CJ Stroud or Travis Hunter? Dak Prescott or Travis Hunter? Jane Daniels or Travis Hunter. CJ Stroud or Travis Hunter. Dak Prescott or Travis Hunter.
Starting point is 00:31:09 You see? Daniel Jones or Travis Hunter. Trevor Lawrence or Travis Hunter. But here's the thing though. You see? I don't. Oh, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:31:19 I don't believe had Daniel Jones not gone to Duke and been to, and been coached David Cutcliffe, coached Peyton, and coached Eli. Yeah. So, you got two number one overall picks that was coached by him. You know the scouts. Oh, this guy has an arm better than Peyton and Eli.
Starting point is 00:31:40 This guy's more athletic than Peyton and Eli. This guy sees the field. He's bigger. He's stronger. A lot, a lot, a lot. Oh, man, you heard what David Cutcliffe said? Now, he coached Peyton and Eli. Now, he would know if anybody would know.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Same thing if Rail said something about you. Now, you know Rail gonna know now. She's been with him for five years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See? You see how that go, Ocho? Uh-huh. See? So, somebody that has coached two guys won super bowls mvp super bowl mvps now he's coaching somebody else and he says oh as far as talent i think he might have more talent right i'm not saying he's gonna be
Starting point is 00:32:16 peyton manning but could he be eli eli was a two-time Super Bowl winner. Right. He's going to go to the Hall of Fame. So, yeah, Trav, man, he's phenomenal. Yeah, he's nice. He's phenomenal. Hopefully he's enjoying his time off there on the bye week this week, Coach O. Mm-hmm. And then they come back at home against Kansas State.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Yeah, I'm going to that game. You're going to the game? Yeah, I'm going to go to that game. Travis talked about NIL saying, it's not about the NIL. It's about the NFL. If I would have went somewhere else, I could have gotten a major amount of money. You see where I'm at? With the best coach that's going to put me in the best situation.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Time has made it abundantly clear. The young man said he wanted to play offense and defense. Time gave him that opportunity because he didn't want to rob him of his God-given ability. Right. Now, all I can do is do, when he's under my tutelage, let him play offense and defense. Once he goes to the next level.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Hold on. Go ahead. I think if he went anywhere else outside of Colorado, you think they would allow him to play offensive defense? I don't think so. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:33:32 No. No, I don't think so. Let me say don't allow him to play. I don't think they'll allow him to play damn near every snap on offensive defense. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Would they put a package together and let him play?
Starting point is 00:33:49 Right. Sure. But you think about Ocho, if they're playing, he's playing 120, 130 snaps a game. Right. He's missing 10 snaps a game. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:59 And 140 play a game, 140 snaps a game, he's missing 10. Nah. No, I don't game. He's missing 10. Nah. No, I don't believe so. I don't. Because you look at Charles Woodson, he was a defensive player that got snaps on the offensive side.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Right. Champ was primarily a defender that got snaps on the offensive side. Miles Jack was an offensive player, but he did play some offense. They let him play running back. Right. But not to the level of what Trav is doing. Trav is playing damn. He's playing 65,
Starting point is 00:34:34 66 snaps on a 70, 70, 72 play offense. And then he's playing 60 plays and a 62 and a 65, 68 play defense. Right. it's crazy yeah it is and yeah the numbers are staggering and then he's he's able to be efficient on both sides of the ball which is listen it's it's not unheard of but but doing it at the rate he's doing it. It's commendable. Kayla Clark was one vote shy of being a unanimous WNBA rookie of the year. She received 66 of the 67 votes from the panel of national reporters and sports writers.
Starting point is 00:35:15 The long vote came. The long vote cast for Clark went in favor. The long vote cast not in favor of Clark went to Angel Reese. The vote kept Clark from becoming the WNBA's fifth ever unanimous rookie of the year. Who was the voter? Do you know? Anybody know? Oh, it's going to get out.
Starting point is 00:35:38 They're going to find out. It's just like somebody that left Ken Griffey Jr. off the ballot when it came to Hall of Fame. They took it. They're like, bro, you're going to leave the guy off the ballot? You ain't even said, OK, you just say, you know. Right. You left him off the ballot? Right, right.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I mean, those situations like that, you think it's probably something personal, huh? I mean, I don't know how you come to the conclusion that she wasn't the unanimous mvp she got a team into the playoffs when they hadn't been to the playoffs i think since 2016 or 2017 right let them in scoring she let she led in she led uh the rookies in scoring she let them in assist she averaged like six five six rebounds a game she set record for scoring, rebound, assist. I mean, three pointers, three pointers.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Let's not get into it because all it's going to do, it's like, you know, people got their, oh, this and all that. All I know, when they got out of the, when they got eliminated from the playoffs, the attendance dropped, the ratings dropped. Now, I wouldn't need to know
Starting point is 00:36:45 because they, oh, it's the old guard. It is this and that. So what's the reason now? Because they try to give you every other reason why. So now give me the reasons why. She's gone. Is the
Starting point is 00:37:05 old guard still watching? Why are these fans? If it's more, if WNBA is more, it is and I get it. Why aren't people watching? The ratings have dropped since Fever had been eliminated? Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Look at the attendance when the Fever play your favorite team and look at the attendance when they don't. Only the aces sell out every game. They got four Olympians. They got Asia Wilson, unanimous MVP. They got four Olympians. They got Asia Wilson, unanimous MVP. They got Kelsey Plum,
Starting point is 00:37:48 who was the number one overall pick. Asia Wilson was the number one overall pick. Jackie Young was on the Olympic team. Chelsea Gray was on the Olympic team. I just, I don't get it. You think, man, I'm so happy for payback Pat McAfee. Because what he did is to show what could be done, what is possible.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Yeah. Why would I ever be mad at that? He did it. I could do it too. That's why I look at something. I don't begrudge. Oh's why I look at something. Right. I don't begrudge. Oh,
Starting point is 00:38:28 he getting all the credit. Man, P-Mac wasn't the first one to have no podcast. He ain't the father. No, get that money P-Mac. Oh, so somebody really do
Starting point is 00:38:36 got that kind of money to pay. Yeah. Oh, it's out there. Let me get some of it there. Let me find out a way. Let me huddle my team.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Right. You know, the first, the first people to huddle was Gal, your dad. You know, they were the first dude way. Let me huddle my team. Right. You know, the first people to huddle was Galliardette. You know, they were the first. They created the huddle. Right. Because they didn't want people to see their signs. So they got in the huddle so they could do their signs and you couldn't steal. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:00 So that's where the football huddle came from. Let me huddle my team. Okay. This is what he did. And parlayed it into that. I ain't looking at it. Oh, there was so many black people. There was so many black people that had podcasts before P Matt.
Starting point is 00:39:16 All I know is that what he did is that he opened it up and let, let you see what could be possible digitally. Yeah. Or an athlete. Yeah, Joe Rogan was in the game a long time. Other people had podcasts, but we had a football player. Mm-hmm. A punter.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Not a quarterback, not a Hall of Famer, not a 5-, 8-, 10-time Pro Bowl player. Mm-hmm. A punter. He says, you know what? Get a camera. Give me a little crew. Boom, boom, boom.
Starting point is 00:39:51 We can do it organically. We can go to the people. We can talk. We can be who we, we can be authentic. We'll have these constraints or these restraints or constraints
Starting point is 00:40:01 from a network. And you just be yourself? Boy, when I saw that, I was like, whoa! He got what? Yeah, them boys nice now. It's been done once, it could be done again. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's coming.
Starting point is 00:40:24 More than one person is coming to Mount Everest. It's coming. More than one person broke the sub-4-minute mile. Yeah. Oh, it's coming. They done put more than one person on the moon. More than one person went to the moon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:38 It's coming. That's the way I look at it. They had the rookie team. I think it was Kaitlyn Clark, Rekia Jackson, Angel Reese, Cardosa. I don't remember the other young lady that won it.
Starting point is 00:40:54 I can't think of her off the top of my head. I do remember vividly those four players. Congratulations to all the WNBA, to all the rookies that made the WNBA all-rookie first team. Congratulations. Job well done. This class is going to be remembered for a long period of time. Just like the 84 class
Starting point is 00:41:13 with Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley, Akeem Olajuwon. The 2003 draft class, LeBron Jane, D-Way, Mello, CB, Chris Bodge. This draft class, what wasodge, this draft class. Uh, what was it? 2024 led by Caitlin Clark.
Starting point is 00:41:31 It's going to be one. It's going to be one. They're going to remember this. And, these salaries, these women salaries going to go up. It's going to continue to go. Yep.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Oh, Joe, now it's time for Q Q and A Kurt Nostman said Uncle Ocho as a cowboy fan I don't know how to feel I'm so tired of Jay ignoring glaring problems
Starting point is 00:42:04 what do you think we'll see these old 90s Cowboys again? I'm 27, so I've embraced the suck my whole life. But that's the thing. Jerry keeps telling y'all that, and y'all keep believing. Jerry and Steven come out there and say, these teams remind me of those 90s. We got just as much talent of those 90s Cowboys, those Super Bowl teams. We got just as this. This team reminds me a lot 90s. We got just as much talent of those 90s Cowboys, those Super Bowl teams. We got just as much.
Starting point is 00:42:25 This team reminds me a lot of them. He say that because he know y'all don't believe it. Listen, the Cowboys fans, I like the Cowboys fans too. I love them. I love them to death. They're just delusional. Jerry Jones is the greatest sailman of all time.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Jerry Jones could talk a goddamn cat out of a fish market. Jerry Jones could talk a goddamn cat out of fish market jerry jones could talk a cat out of a fish market every time goddamn jerry jones could sell water to a well like that's that's the type of salesman he is and that is what he has all cowboy fans believing every year is something new and you know he put put the dang, dang, dangled everything right in front of you. And it is what it is. Yeah. It is.
Starting point is 00:43:14 It is. And the Cowboy fans believe it. They want to believe it. Like I said, they grew up with the Cowboy. And, you know, you my age, the Cowboys, the Cowboys were good. They were old enough to remember the Cowboys. They used to go to the playoffs every year. Every year, Cowboys didn't miss.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I mean, they went like 21 straight seasons. They had like winning records. Go to the playoffs. And then, you know, had a great thing. They came back in the 90s. And then Jerry like, man, I need somebody to shine. I know it's yes, I own it, but I ain't getting no shine. They ain't talking about me.
Starting point is 00:43:50 They talking about Jimmy. They talking about the triplets. I own the team. I pay the bills. They talking about you, Jared. Yeah. But not like you thought. As d saying uh what's up uncle ocho question which non-quarterback player right now uh would you start a franchise with also ocho
Starting point is 00:44:14 did you ever find that future hof jacket that you wore in 2007 against the ravens i wish i knew what that jacket was i've been looking for looking for that thing. That's a one-on-one. You think so? Yeah. What non-quarterback would you start your franchise with? Non-quarterback would I start a franchise with? Yeah. Like players, active players right now?
Starting point is 00:44:41 Yeah. Why the hell you going to start your franchise with a player that can't play? Right. I'm gonna keep it home. I'm gonna go with Jamar. Chase? Yeah. Okay. I ain't gonna say you're wrong. I was gonna say Tyreek or JJ. Yeah. Okay. I ain't gonna say you're wrong. I was gonna say Tyreek or JJ.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Yeah. I mean, you can't go wrong with either three. I'll probably take Tyreek for the simple fact that he gonna hit his head on the goalpost. He's the threat. There have been very few people that's ever played this game. All three of them are a threat like that, too. They're not, Ojo.
Starting point is 00:45:25 They're not. Tyreek is the only guy that can take a smoke route and get to the house. I know it sounds good, but you know Tyreek is different. I know he's different. I know that part, but I just saw Jamar Chase this weekend
Starting point is 00:45:40 take a 12-yard right, 12-yard route, bounce off four people, and go 67 yards. I just saw Justin Jefferson two weeks ago take a post, reverse field after running 30 yards, and score, what was it?
Starting point is 00:45:56 87? Let me ask you a question. You think Tyreek would have even had the reverse field? Nah, probably not. Hey, but listen. They ended up in the same place. Let me ask you a question. field? Nah, probably not. Hey, but listen. You remember against Buffalo and Cover 5? Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:46:10 How many guys against Buffalo and Cover 5 catch that ball, split the scene, and get to the house? What Tyreek did against Buffalo in the divisional round in the championship game. Oh yeah, shit. None. None. I ain't never seen anything like it on show. Yeah, you're right. I ain't never seen anything like it, Ochoa.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Yeah, you right. I ain't never seen anything like it. I mean, the kind of speed, the way, the suddenness in which he can build up the speed of Ochoa. A lot of times, guys gotta build up. Yeah. That joke was instant. Yeah. That joke was like instant, like oatmeal. Yeah, but you know, with them
Starting point is 00:46:43 three, you can't go wrong either way you go. It's all on preference. oatmeal. Yeah. But, you know, with them three, you can't go wrong either way you go. It's all on preference. Yeah. That man, I just like, I ain't never seen anything like it. Like I said, I've seen, you know, I was in the league. Hold on. Yeah, I was in the league when Randy got in. Randy caught a pass on us right before the half.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Threw it to him. Tackled the joker. The joker threw it over his head and Mo Williams run the ball in the end zone. That was against us. I remember that play. That's a lot. Yeah, I remember that play.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Hey boy, that horse. Man, that thing got deafened up. That's it. Oh my God. Hell yeah. Man, that thing got deafened up there. Oh, my God. Yeah, I don't think we're going to fare too good in this one. I don't think we're going to fare too good. Yeah, but I'm like you, Ocho. I'm definitely not taking a running back.
Starting point is 00:47:38 No. Running back? Hell no. Yeah. I'm probably going to take one of those. I'm taking... You took Chase. I would probably say take Tyreek or Jefferson. But.
Starting point is 00:47:51 I mean, JJ is off to his start. Woo. Hi, I'm sweetie. Mad random, but Ocho. I'm number two in the world at Madden currently. We should play sometime. Love the show. Man, that joke will beat the brakes off you.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Man, he number two in the world. I don't even know who he is. Don't worry about it. You'll know. I beat you four to nothing. I'm number eight in the world and I know the other seven people in front of me. So somebody land. Your stats?
Starting point is 00:48:27 You're number eight in the world? I am. I am number eight in the world right now. No, you're not. I am. Show her to pull it up. Let's see. I can't pull it up. My Xbox is over there. That's okay. Go show us. Take a picture of it. I can't take it. Tell the chat I'm ranked in the world.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I'm number eight. Yeah, rank means stank. You the eighth stankest mofo in the world. I'm ranked. The chat know. All my games. The rank mean different things, though, Joe. Nah, rank. The people in the chat know, especially my gamers.
Starting point is 00:49:01 You know, in bull riding, in bull, professional bull riding, professional bull riding, they... Yeah, bulls are rank. Yeah, I know. Rank, that means he's nasty. Yeah, yeah. One of my favorite bulls...
Starting point is 00:49:14 Like Bushwhacker. Bushwhacker, yeah. Literally, yeah. Tahana. Bodacious. Bodacious. Yellow Jacket. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:49:24 You don't know about no Bushwhacker. You talking to a bull rider. What is he talking about, man? Let me go read it. He's talking to a bull rider. No, I'm talking to a bull driver. I'm a bull rider now. Tell Ashton, pull him up. Ocho, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:49:43 they opened the chute. I give you credit. You got on it. That was a ranked bull, man. What you talking about? It don't matter whether he opened the chute or not fell off. I said you got on it. Huh?
Starting point is 00:49:55 Ocho, you got on it. Nobody else would get on it. And some professional riders, when the chute open, they fall off. No, I'm not. Oh, no. Ocho, I just gave you credit. Okay, I'm just making a show now. No, I would not. I don't know. Ocho, I just gave you credit. Okay, I'm just making a show now. No, I would not get on him.
Starting point is 00:50:08 I would not get on no bull, Ocho, no. So I commend you, Ocho. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. So same way I did that bill, that bull, that's how I'm going to do James Harrison, motherfucking ass. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures
Starting point is 00:50:24 and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
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Starting point is 00:52:18 Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. HP's Fighters 1201 said, Ocho looking like a character on Assassin's Creed. Love you guys. Keep up the great content. Thank you, bro. I appreciate that. We appreciate the support. Laney Ray said, Hey guys, Vikings with Sammy Darts. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:52:55 How y'all gonna give Sammy Darts a name? Talk about Sammy Darts. Now for it on Skol, baby. Who y'all picking in the London game? Vikings or Jets? Who you got, Ocho? school, baby. Who y'all picking in the London game? Vikings or Jets? Who you got on, Joe? Hey, listen. Listen. I know people gonna call me crazy for this.
Starting point is 00:53:13 The Vikings are on a tear right now. But there's a person who's always had success against the Vikings. It's Aaron Rodgers. It's Aaron Rodgers. Now, I wouldn't be surprised as great as Sammy Darts and goddamn Justingers. Now, I wouldn't be surprised as great as Sammy Darts and goddamn
Starting point is 00:53:27 Justin Jefferson are playing, I won't be surprised if the goddamn Jets upset them boys out there in London. I'm just saying. Yeah. They got Addison back. Yeah. Yeah. They're good. Yeah, it's going to be a good one.
Starting point is 00:53:44 It's going to be a real good one. The defense getting after people it's gonna be interesting it's gonna be you're gonna have to hold up cause Brian Flores and Ocho guess what they not leave until Saturday Brian Flores got them boys playing boy they might leave tomorrow they're leaving tomorrow
Starting point is 00:54:01 probably late yeah see if you can find out when the Jets are leaving leaving tomorrow. Probably late. Yeah, see if you can find out when the Jets are leaving. Jacob Ben said, what's up, Uncle Nocho? Okay, we got a shout out to all of us, Lyman, restoring power in hurricane-affected areas. Been rough, but we're getting it all back. Yeah, you can, bro.
Starting point is 00:54:20 We appreciate that support. The storm on the east coast up and down the coastline Florida came up through Georgia to Carolinas North Carolina so congratulations uh um
Starting point is 00:54:37 hold on go ahead the law said the bathroom real quick. The law said Ray Lewis versus Shannon Sharp one-on-one off the line. Shannon, you burn him to the end zone or does Ray not let you get off the line? That's not what Ray was.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Ray was a middle linebacker. I'm going to get off the line. I'm going to get off the line because that's what i do that's not what he does uh so more of like we do it like a a 907 drill and i'm trying to run in the hole am i gonna make ray miss or i'm gonna run him over but ray ray was not ray not a cover linebacker that's not what middle linebackers do yeah they drop into a zone but that's not what Ray did Ray didn't go to the Hall of Fame he's not the best greatest middle linebacker of all time
Starting point is 00:55:32 because he was guarding tight ends off the line of scrimmage hey who y'all talking about they talking about Ray Lewis versus me one-on-one do I beat do I burn him to the end zone or does Ray not let me get off the line of scrimmage? You going to burn him?
Starting point is 00:55:49 Yeah. I say Ray is a middle linebacker. Ray didn't go to the Hall of Fame. Ray didn't win two defensive players of the year by putting hands on people and not letting them off the line of scrimmage. That's not what he is. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy, what do you all expect to see from the Cowboys Steelers this weekend?
Starting point is 00:56:10 Najee Harris going straight downhill with no defensive ends on the field, no Micah Parsons, no Demarcus Lawrence. I expect to see CeeDee Lamb and Joey Porter Jr. go at it. I expect to see Trayvon Diggs and goddamn George Pickens.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Go at it. I expect to see a TJ. Why have three sacks? If you like to pull a job, then. Oh, uh, it'll be cool.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Said, Oh, Joe, we need to discuss that road. You posted. What's up? Fabo. I'm having my firstborn son in a couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Tell me the feeling you had with your firstborn. My firstborn was obviously my oldest daughter. I mean, you know it was going to be a girl because the daughter said I don't see a stem on the apple. So no stem on the apple. As, no stem on the apple.
Starting point is 00:57:06 As the old people used to call it, I got a split tail. So, I'm excited. At that point in time, like, when you find out, you just want a healthy child. Doesn't matter, you know, boy, girl, sure. I mean, obviously, you're a guy like, man, well, I'd better love to have a son.
Starting point is 00:57:22 But, a son is a son until he get a wife. Daughter is a daughter for life. Now remember that. Sons have a responsibility. He got a wife to take care of. That daughter,
Starting point is 00:57:41 she gonna make sure her dad, especially the oldest, they're going to make, hey, not my youngest, but that oldest, she got the instincts. Bro, it's an unbelievable feeling to be a be a dad yeah it's a huge responsibility and then you all of a sudden you realize why you do certain things and it's not about you anymore go ahead ocho lebron hey guys I posted in the super chat question about black issues
Starting point is 00:58:27 and I like to suggest a weekly segment to address these topics for the culture it's called blackish or check in man look we're definitely not a monolithic group and when you deal that I don't know if people come to really want to talk we're definitely not a monolithic group. And when you deal with that,
Starting point is 00:58:48 I don't know if people come to really want to talk about it. We'll talk about things that pertain to us. No. But. Uh-uh. That's, that's. Keep the smile,
Starting point is 00:58:59 keep the smiles and the laughter going. Yeah, yeah. St. Don Casey Ogunochow is Mike Vick and Donovan McNabb Hall of Fame worthy. I don't think Vick played enough. Didn't play a number of years.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Donovan I think it's going to be close to Donovan. Donovan played what, 14 years? Best years were in Philly. Because I don't think he played after he left. He played in Washington. I think he played that one year in Washington.
Starting point is 00:59:36 What do you think, Ocho? I mean, yeah, I would think. I hate being put in that conversation. You know why, Ocho? I don't really like to discuss the Hall of Fame. Right. Because anytime I say something, you know what they say? It's thick.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Hall of Fame, Shannon Sharp says, such and such is not worthy. Right. So I just like, I don't get to vote. Yeah. So I just try to stay away from stuff like that. Yeah. I just speak to my brother. I think my brother deserves to be in the Hall of Fame,
Starting point is 01:00:05 but they never say Hall of Famer Shannon Sharks thinks his brother. They always say Hall of Famer Shannon Sharks says he doesn't think such and such. Right. I mean, who the hell am I? I think they both deserve to be in. What Michael Vick did in his short time,
Starting point is 01:00:24 his short tenure in atlanta what was something special obviously the game has changed and evolved now to where it is but what he was able to do during that time man it was special man you you had you had to be there people i was there i lived in the city so you know there. Man, you had to be there, man. It was electrifying. And I was playing and I couldn't wait to tune in. I wanted to see what was happening. If we, if, you know, Mike Victim had been playing at night or they were playing on a Monday night, I was excited. And I'm an actual player at the time.
Starting point is 01:01:01 And there's a certain level of enjoyment and excitement just knowing, okay, what's going to happen when he gets the ball? And then the funny thing about it is he's the type of player where you hold your breath because he's always touching the ball every offensive series. Ain't no telling what the hell is going to happen. Like that was exciting for me. Nicky
Starting point is 01:01:20 Grant. Very good question here, Ocho. Yeah. Better salesman, Jerry Jones or Vince McMahon? See, I don't know much about wrestling and Vince McMahon. But if people go into the wrestling and Vince and they know it's fake.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Vince McMahon. You know it's scripted. And people steal the pay-per-view and Summer Slam. So what you think about well what's the difference with Jerry NFL is scripted he tell you one thing and they always home
Starting point is 01:01:56 first we get a playoffs but football isn't scripted they might win they might lose you already know there's a plot line. There's a movie. It's kind of like a horror movie. You know the main character is not going to get killed.
Starting point is 01:02:15 For this man to be able to convince millions? But I think the millions know it's scripted. They just enjoy the entertainment that wrestling brings the character. Yeah. The, the,
Starting point is 01:02:31 the energy, the charisma of, of, of Pacific people, you know, it was real though. Huh? We grew up.
Starting point is 01:02:39 I can wrestle. It was real. You thought it was real when you're young and you don't want to, just like kids. When kids grow up, they think the fairy, I mean, they, they think the two fairies real. They think Santa Claus is real. You thought it was real when you're young and you don't want to spoil it. Just like kids, when kids grow up, they think the two fairies real. They think Santa Claus is real. And at some point, you're already invested
Starting point is 01:02:51 in it. Even when you know it's not real, you still stay in what you grew up loving as a child. You still love it, even though you know it's scripted. I think Ben. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of agree with you on that then. I think I think Ben yeah yeah I kind of agree
Starting point is 01:03:06 with you on that then Tony BRN FYI October's breast cancer where this month wear pink to support Saturday 10-5-24 making strides
Starting point is 01:03:16 walk in Detroit come out and support Tony yes pink is breast cancer where this month we got Ocho and I go make sure I got to find some pink
Starting point is 01:03:24 I don't think I don't know if I got anything pink, but I wore a pink shirt. I wore it a couple of times to support. I'm all about supporting breast cancer. So, yes.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Thanks for reminding us, Tony. I'm definitely going to have, man, I should have NFL send me one of those pink pins. I used to love that pink. Ocho, remember we used to get the pink towels and you had the pink towel for breast cancer. I had to love that pink. Oh, do you remember we used to get the pink towels? I had the pink please towel.
Starting point is 01:03:48 I don't think they do it now. I think they call it cancer wear this month because then you had these other cancers saying, well, what about us? What about prostate cancer? What about this type of liver cancer? What about bladder cancer? They said, you know what? We're going to have cancer wear this month.
Starting point is 01:04:04 You see what I'm saying? Cancer wear this month. Yeah. You see that? So, you know, so cancer aware this month. Anybody that's been any family, friends or loved one that's been afflicted by any form of cancer. Stay courageous in your battle. Hopefully you beat this. It stays in remission and you go on to live a healthy life. It's Mario, not Luigi. Uncle Ocho, love the content. I got a BS degree
Starting point is 01:04:28 in media production at Morgan State, HBCU. I want to work for your media company. Please let me know what I need to do. That's an Ash question. Considering that I'm looking at all that, I'm like, damn, I got this many employees?
Starting point is 01:04:44 God damn, Ash been hiring people left and right. Uh, uh, it's, right now, we're not hiring right now, but, uh, shoot Ash your information and, uh,
Starting point is 01:05:00 we'll keep you, uh, we'll keep you, uh, keep you in the loop, bro. Ocho, that concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for joining us after that very, very exciting game on Thursday night. Kirk, first cousins, threw for a Falcons franchise record 509 yards and a 45-yard walk-off touchdown to end the ball game as they take down division rival,
Starting point is 01:05:29 the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 36-30. They have two receivers go over 100 yards. Drake London went over 150 yards, and Mooney went over 100 yards. They played unbelievable. When you thought the game was over. Cousins throws an interception late in that ball game. They force a punt, go down the field, get the game-tying field goal
Starting point is 01:05:51 from Young-Wae Ko. Young-Wae Ko. No, Young-Wae Ko. He's Korean, and he kicks the game-tying field goal after having his previous field goal blocked, and he kicks the game tying field goal after having his previous field goal blocked,
Starting point is 01:06:08 and he missed one earlier, and then they win the toss, and Cousins did swag. You know, he was swag surfing, and so they end up winning the game. Congratulations to the Atlanta Falcons, and thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Please, guys, make sure you hit that
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