Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Osa Odighizuwa joins the show, Joey Bosa gets released & DK requests a trade

Episode Date: March 6, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson are joined by Osa Odighizuwa to discuss his new contract extension. They also discuss Joey Bosa getting released from the Chargers, DK requestin...g a trade from the Seahawks and much more!05:30 - Osa Odighizuwa joins the show19:38 - Joey Bosa released from Chargers 29:30 - DK Metcalf requests a trade34:15 - Texans plan to let Stefon Diggs test free agency36:13 - Maxx Crosby40:10 - Jelly donuts55:00 - Q and Ayyyyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:23 fresh off a big, big contract. I'm going to need to let me hold something. Let me borrow something that I can't pay back. What? O-D-G-A-Z-U-A. Did I pronounce that right? O-S-A. O-S-A.
Starting point is 00:05:36 O-D-G-A-Z-U-A. Yo, it's good to be here. Thank you guys for having me. No, thank you for that. Congratulations on the deal. You seemingly really came into your own this year thank you for that. Congratulations on the deal. You seemingly really came into your own this year. Doing a great job of attacking the run,
Starting point is 00:05:50 put collapse in the pocket, getting to the quarterback. What was different this year than in years past? I think just more experience. You know what I mean? Just getting more reps and then more opportunity. The most that I've ever opportunity this the most that i've ever
Starting point is 00:06:05 played the most that i've ever gotten that rusted passer so i feel like just having more looks at it more chances at it it's just always going to allow me to be better you feel me because copycat league you're getting the same blocks over and over so the game starts to slow down a little bit i can like start to play the game within the game a little bit more. Well, considering that you went up against, for the last three years, you went up against one of the greatest guards in NFL history, Zach Martin. So I can imagine what those 101s and that 907 and that team setting was like
Starting point is 00:06:40 because it kind of prepared you. And you had to feel, man man if i can get off a block against zach martin none of you other guys got a chance if i can beat him on a one-on-one pass rush you guys don't have a chance is that what you were thinking bro literally i mean like you know on sunday i know that the best guys that i went against all week he's just right there to my left yeah the way so I don't really have to worry about anybody else like I know that and people ask me like who's the best guy that you've ever gone against I'm like that's a I go against him every day so Zach is a legend so yeah
Starting point is 00:07:18 I got so much respect for him he's definitely definitely helped me sharpen all of my tools since I've been in the league. Listen, what factors influence your decision to commit to the Cowboys long term? I definitely love my team. Okay, yeah. You feel me? The routine and
Starting point is 00:07:40 being in Dallas and everything that I have set up out here is conducive to what I got going on. Right. That's part of the reason why I'm in this position to be able to get more money anyways. For sure. So I think that's just as valuable as more money, you know. And I feel like with that being the case and trying to like chase more for the sake of more, like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:09 Cause it's like, you can always just try and get a little bit more, just like trying and, and get like every dollar that you possibly can. Like, you know what I mean? I just, it was a very good deal, bro. Like, and, and I was happy with it. Like it was life changing money. It was a life-changing money. Most definitely. I got to, like, mom is good forever.
Starting point is 00:08:32 And you're in Texas. No state taxes. So the money that you might have gotten, let's just say for the sake of argument, you got an extra $10 million over the life of the contract somewhere else. You're going to save that in state taxes by not having state taxes there so for me i'm looking at your uh uh osa is that what can i what can i do with 80 million that i need to be
Starting point is 00:08:53 able to do with 90 million that's what i'm saying that like yeah it doesn't open or close any doors bro like once you're already in the realm of life-changing generational wealth like right it like you know what i mean it doesn't really move the needle for how for how i'm gonna be living my life or what i can do so i know i'm smart enough i got good people around me that are going to be able to help me make more money on on that off the field just um you feel me we're set yeah hey listen when you get it when you get a contract of this magnitude, right, you already had personal goals before you got it. You have team goals as a whole. Now that you've gotten the contract, have your personal goals changed?
Starting point is 00:09:37 Not at all. Or are they still the same? I mean, still chasing greatness, brother. Still things. Yeah. Like, I haven't reached the level that I feel like I'm capable of yet in terms of my play and in terms of being at the very top of the league and reaching that pinnacle.
Starting point is 00:09:55 So, and Super Bowl, obviously, like, team-wise, like, we haven't touched any of those. So, that's still all out there to play for. Like, now that the money is out of the way, it's just all the things that you love about football and the competitive aspect of it. And just trying to be great now. What happened?
Starting point is 00:10:13 Oh, I was going to ask what, what happened this year? A lot. Bro. Like, I mean, between injuries, like having, having a new decoordinated those growing pains
Starting point is 00:10:29 at the beginning just just a lot of things happened bro throughout the course of the season a lot of things that nobody could really control i feel like the things that we could control as far as like attitude and approach and just and just still competing to the very end. I feel like we did what we needed to do there, and that's promising just the mentality of the team. So I feel like that's something that we could build off of for sure. But you guys seem to struggle against the run. The last three to four years, Osa, you guys have struggled against the run.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Why is it so difficult? And I understand you guys want to play an attacking-style defense. When you had DQ, he wants to attack, get to the quarterback. You play that attacking style, that 43, get to the quarterback. Same thing with Zim. Why do you think it's been so difficult for you guys to stop the run? That's a tough one. There's a lot that goes into it.
Starting point is 00:11:26 You know what I mean? Like, I feel like just being able to do just as good at the run later in the game as like, as we are in the beginning of the game. Cause I feel like we don't start out just, you know what I mean? Like, but against the run, I feel like obviously we've had games where we started slow but I feel like for the most part like we do a very good job at the beginning of the game stopping the run it's just those later runs like they break them eventually so I feel like just getting those down and and just locking in even more just to be able to to to do a better job of stopping the run a little bit later in the game. Hey, when you think about it, listen, I'm as a,
Starting point is 00:12:07 as a football enthusiast like myself, I like the Cowboys. I like the players on the Cowboys. I like the Cowboys fans. Now I don't like the way things are running Dallas. I'm not going to say anything bad about your own or anything, but I would like to ask you Jerry Jones last year said he was going to be all in is there anything that you would like to see ownership do to improve the team to give you guys a better chance at not only competing in the nfc but competing for the lombardi trophy any additions like? Um, I know an old lineman for sure. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Just, we just lost, lost Zach Martin. So definitely going to need to pick up a line because you know, that's a big part of our, our team. And I feel like you've got to build from the front back. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Obviously more D tackles. Me and Mozzie as of now so getting a little bit more depth behind us and and adding to the d-line room like i said building from the front back right that's gonna that's gonna be very important i feel like that's just if you're if you're trying to win football games it's you gotta focus on that line you got your money and now it's Micah you see Dak restructured his contract C.D. Lamb restructured his gave him nearly $40 million
Starting point is 00:13:33 about $37 million in cap relief so they got some money to play with Micah just saw what Max Crosby got the most money for a non-quarterback in NFL history. I think, uh, Mike over there, barbecue chicken.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Pizza. Hamburger. Chicken tenders. I didn't say that first because I just felt like that was so obvious it goes without saying, bro. We got to bring Micah back. You know what I mean? Nothing's going anywhere,
Starting point is 00:14:05 but get that deal done. So that's just like a no brainer, bros goes without saying, got to get, got to get 11, right? Yeah. And we can't,
Starting point is 00:14:16 we can't wait until the end of training camp before week one starts to get it done either. Nah, I think that's just, that's probably priority. Number one to be on it done either. Nah. I think that's just that's probably priority number one to be honest. Yeah. Can I ask you a question also? When Jerry is constantly in the headlines
Starting point is 00:14:34 he's saying things like, do you like, come on Jerry, come on Jerry, stall us out man. Let us just play with all the distractions that you're creating. Nah, Uncle, you can't answer that. I don't view it as a distraction, bro. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:51 You know what I mean? Like, what he says doesn't affect what we do out there on the field. Like, I'm the one out there on the field, bro. Like, that's not even something that I really think about. Or let it distract me, bro, because I know I'm in the driver's seat when I'm on the field. So are the other 10 guys out there with me?
Starting point is 00:15:11 So are the 11 guys on offense in control of the situation? You do realize, now when he says, this team is as talented as those 90 Super Bowls teams, and you guys go out there and stank it up. Now, either he's misguided,
Starting point is 00:15:29 or you guys are not nearly as talented as he thinks. Now, it's only one of two choices, O.C. You sound like a hater right now. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. But I wouldn't even say it's an issue with talent. I'm just like, sometimes the execution is just... Obviously, in the games that we didn't win,
Starting point is 00:15:51 execution just wasn't where it needed to be. I don't think it's a question of talent at all. No. I don't think so. So what is... You mentioned team success. Obviously, you want to get to an NFC Championship game. You want to get to the Super Bowl, potentially win that.
Starting point is 00:16:08 But individual, Pro Bowl, All-Pro, what's next? What would you like to have when it's all said and done? When we come back, we have a conversation, and we sit down with you, let's just say for the sake of argument, 10 years from now, and you're hanging your cleats up, what do you want to be on your resume? That's exactly what you just said, bro. Pro Bowl, All-Pro, these are the things that I look at, and that's exactly what I mean when I say there's still a lot out there for me to play for and a lot of things that I
Starting point is 00:16:37 haven't accomplished yet. Ojo? You've gotten paid I'm thinking about the time Of my goals that I set Once I've gotten paid right All pro Obviously at some point I would love
Starting point is 00:16:59 To reach the Super Bowl I wasn't able to do that You did go to the Super Bowl No I'm talking about when I was in Cincinnati. Oh, that ain't happening. Yeah, yeah. Come on. Don't be disrespectful. I'm talking about my bangles. I'm talking about my bangles.
Starting point is 00:17:14 From a team standpoint, obviously speaking defensively, what do you think you guys need to do better to start the season off right to get that identity back for you guys to get back into and I don't want to say contention, not the right word
Starting point is 00:17:30 back into the good graces of just being a good defense in general being that it's been bad I mean no disrespect, being that it hasn't been up to par I'll say it like that, what do you guys need to do? We got to shut people down, bro. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Just the run. Just the run. That's it. Shut the run down. Like, we can, if we force people to throw the ball, you know what I mean? Like, we can pass rush
Starting point is 00:18:01 with the best of them, bro. So, definitely getting that run stopped and forcing them into those throwing situations which they don't want to be in, which has always been something that was obvious since I've been a rookie, is like that's the last thing that teams want to do when they're coming to play the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:18:18 They don't want to throw the ball. So we got to force them to throw the ball and play our game you know Cowboys defensive lineman Osa Adigizua recently signed big lucrative contract he has his money now
Starting point is 00:18:36 now he really gets to focus and become the player that he dreamed he could become pro bowler, an all pro and hopefully get the team to the Super Bowl. Olsa, thank you for joining us. Congratulations on the contract. Stay healthy, and we're checking with you down the road.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you for joining us. Don't forget to eat McDonald's. What? What? Don't let's do it back. Hey, Olsa, you're different, bro like i wish i was one of those could just eat mcdonald's and and and just go kill it yeah i gotta actually i i gotta go mess with that meal prep i got you i got you exactly appreciate it bro have a good one man stay healthy appreciate you oh Joe we got some breaking news
Starting point is 00:19:26 tonight what happened the Chargers have released five time pro bowler Joey Bosa releasing Bosa saved the Chargers $25.36 million against their cap
Starting point is 00:19:41 who do you think should pick him up Bengals. If Joey Bosa is gone, then this would be the perfect opportunity. Now, you can't command that much money, right? He just got released. Trey Henderson is doing a huge deal. I'm not sure if the Bengals are going to be able to pay him. What about
Starting point is 00:19:58 Joey Bosa coming to Cincinnati? What do you think, huh? Yeah. He's still going to want gonna want big he's gonna still want big money ojo wait wait wait wait a minute now joy book listen you can't be commanding that kind of money when you haven't been performing the way you should they just released you for a reason yeah stay with me andrew i mean he's been he's been nicked a lot he's been nicked he's been injured so you can't come in and talk about, oh, I want the bag. I'm talking about the bag bag.
Starting point is 00:20:28 He's already gotten the bag bag. No, he's not going to command Max Crosby money. No, no, no. He's going to want big money. He's going to want big money, Ocho. He's going to want North 20 million. Listen, we're going to give him a little something. We ain't going to do him dirty.
Starting point is 00:20:41 We're going to give him a little something. We need to upgrade our defense. This is the perfect time to do so. Now, Trey Hendrickson is going to be able to command much more than what Joey Bosa would get. So I understand that. He's doable? Huh? He's going to want that Max Crosby money.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I say I'm not sure. We will be able to retain Brother Henderson, allow him to be blessed elsewhere, bring Max Crosby in. I mean, bring Max Crosby in. Bring Joey Bosa in and see what we can do. What do you think? No?
Starting point is 00:21:18 Look, the Chargers are trying to kill their cap space. The thing is, this is $25 million. For a guy that's over the last several years, Ochoa has been nicked. He's spent more time off the field than on the field. That's a lot of money. If Joey Bosa was playing 15, 16 games a season, was still giving you that production, when they gave him that big money, $25 million cap here for a guy that's giving you 12, 13 sacks is gravy.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Yes, sir. But it's because of the injuries. And, you know, I'm looking at them. I mean, they're probably going to go out and try to. Khalil Mack is interested in what they're going to do with Mack. Yeah. Cause he's going to probably want to get extended. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:09 They can't get rid of everybody now. You probably, huh? They can't get rid of everybody now. No, no, no, no, no, no. You got two premier in, you got two premier is now you let one go. Now you can't let the other one go. You got there. Well, you got Derwin James.
Starting point is 00:22:23 That's making a lot of money on the back end. Yeah. You got Khalil that's making good money, but he's going to probably want to get extended. Again? No.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I mean, you got to realize, Ocho, that contract, he got, what, one year left on his contract? And what's the Khalil Mack situation?
Starting point is 00:22:44 I think, I think he has like one year, Ocho. Okay. Damn. But you know, Ocho, coaches, players, nobody wants to go into that last year deal. That's lame duck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Because, bro, what? Do you believe me or you don't? It's really there. I mean, especially because I've been in this league. I've been defensive player of the year. Y'all know what I'm. Do you believe in me? Right. If I'm not mistaken, I think Matt went to the Pro Bowl last year.
Starting point is 00:23:16 So he's like, clearly the coaches and the players and the fans think I'm still playing at an elite level. Yeah. He's a free agent. Yeah. Oh, he's free? Yeah, so they... Man, listen. I'm not McCall.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Mack come on to Cincinnati, too. Oh, but hey, listen. I don't like what's going on, man. Tyler Lockett, you know? Tyler Lockett probably going to be... Tyler Lockett probably gonna be Tyler Lockett probably gonna end up going out there
Starting point is 00:23:46 with Pete Carroll yeah they're the good chats yep they familiar yep they familiar with each other they know each other
Starting point is 00:23:53 Pete drafted him yep Devontae Adams mm-hmm now Jerry Jones Jerry Jones I know you're gonna see this
Starting point is 00:24:01 because somebody gonna send it to you now DK McAf has been has been granted permission to seek a trade. Jerry Jones, if you're really all in, if you want the fan— He's going to want more than $30 million. He wants in that $30 million range. You're not going to have two receivers making $30 million and a quarterback making that kind of money.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And you got to sign Micah. Where the money coming from, Ochoa? Can I ask you a question? Do you hear what you just said, right? Yes. You heard everything you just said. So I know I have a lot of fans that are from Cincinnati in this chat and based on what you just said,
Starting point is 00:24:35 why do we still believe we'll be able to keep a $30 million receiver, a $40 million receiver, and a $50 million quarterback? Based off what you just said. And a $30 million receiver, and a $50 million quarterback. And a $30 million defensive end. I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:02 It's tough. I wouldn't want to be a GM. i wouldn't want to be an owner because i'm gonna act like the yankees i'm spending everything whatever penalty whatever whatever penalty i give and being over the cap i'll take it because i'm signing everybody oh joe the eagles have agreed to a two-year, $42.1 million extension with Saquon to dethrone C-Mac as the NFL highest-paid running back. He became the first running back ever to eclipse $20 million average value, average annual value, just edging out the $19 million CMAX current deal with the 49ers. Remember I told you, Sojo, I said, look, they're going to extend it. He's been too valuable.
Starting point is 00:25:51 He's been a model citizen. He's everything you could hope for as an organization. Plays hard. Good, great teammate. Great in the community. Great in the city. You never have to worry about sleeping with your phone on ring. If going off a Coach Seriani, Howie, Mr. Lurie,
Starting point is 00:26:13 we have an issue with Saquon. Don't worry about that. You want as many of those guys in your locker room as you possibly can. The guys that are unselfish, the guys that want to play at an extremely high level, football is very important to them, great in the community, no fanfare. That's what you want.
Starting point is 00:26:32 So I'm not surprised that they did this. Now, the Ravens are looking like, hey, Derrick Henry, like, what about your boy? What about your boy? Because you see all the touchdowns. I think I had more touchdowns than the regular season. I averaged 5.9 yards a carry, even though I, hey, hey, get me close.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I'll take 19. In the area, somewhere in the area. But listen, Saquon deserves this, huh? He deserves it. Hey, look, I ain't say I got to have the biggest house in the subdivision, but can I move in the subdivision? but listen yeah yeah Saquon deserves this he deserves he deserves I ain't say I gotta have the biggest house in the subdivision
Starting point is 00:27:08 but can I move in the subdivision yeah that's it put me on the corner hey hold on I ain't gotta have the biggest house on the block
Starting point is 00:27:15 uh huh but I just wanna be on the same block that's it I just wanna be in the crocus sack put me in the corner that's it
Starting point is 00:27:22 put me in the corner you mean crocus sack or crocus-a-sac? Oh, my bad. Cul-de-sac. My bad. My bad. My bad.
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Starting point is 00:32:23 DK prefers a contender. DK is in the last year of his contract. DK, see where the receiver market is heading. Hey, bro, what y'all got for me? Y'all got nothing for me? No money? Yeah. Okay. Can I get traded?
Starting point is 00:32:36 I told you what they need to do, huh? Because I see what y'all did with Tyler Lockett. I told you what they need to do. Jerry Jones need to be all in They gotta be able to compete with the rest of the NFC Devontae Smith AJ Brown Devo Samuels
Starting point is 00:32:53 Terry McLaurin Naomi Brown CeeDee Lamb By yourself Zach Ertz Make a splash Jerry make a splash. Show the fans of Dallas that
Starting point is 00:33:08 you're serious. Devontae Adams is available. If you don't want to pay North to 30 for DK, bring somebody in there. Take some of the pressure off of Dak. Take some of the pressure off of CD. Show them you're serious.
Starting point is 00:33:23 You know what? I I'm gonna show my team I'm gonna show the players here That I'm serious about winning And I'm gonna do something That's out of character I'm gonna go pay For some upgrades To the offense
Starting point is 00:33:37 If I don't think Anything's wrong with my house Why would I upgrade it Listen Devontae Adams is right there Jerry Devontae Adams is right there. Jerry, Devontae Adams is right there. What part about I don't
Starting point is 00:33:49 think anything is wrong with my house, so I don't need to have it refurbished? There's something wrong with it because it's been leaking for 30 years. There's something wrong with it. That's what I got pots and pans for. I catch the rainwater. I catch the rainwater.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Ain't heard nothing. Ocho, 49ers, the Amador, Lenore, reacts to the DK trade with requests and throws shade at the remaining Seahawks wide receiver, Jackson, Smith, and Jigba. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Y'all cannot let DK leave leave y'all can't do that like who like who like who am i like how am i having fun out there you know jake but he be crying all day he cry because all he do is cry
Starting point is 00:34:41 ref he holding he holding. He holding, ref. Oh, no, don't hurt me. Cry, baby. Well, I'm not worried about JSM. I'm not. J-O. Jackson Smith and Jigma reacting by tweeting.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Hey, what the? We put his tweet up. Hold on. Did he call that man? Did he call that man Jack? Hold on. Go back. Play that back.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Let's see what he called that man at the end. If I'm not mistaken, did he call him a female name at the end, Ocho? Y'all cannot let DK leave. Y'all can't do that. I don't think so. Like, who? How am I going to have fun out there?
Starting point is 00:35:42 You know, Jack, bro, he be crying all day. He cry. cry because all he do is cry ref he holding he holding ref oh no don't hurt me carbon bro i'm not worried about jsn i'm not jesse i'm not he didn J.S.N. I'm not. J.S.N. He didn't say no. He just called it J.S.N. Yeah. And that's funny, man. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:36:11 That's funny because watching him and DK go at it, they be going at it. It's funny, man. It never got to the extent like a Marshawn Lettermore and Mike Evans, but the few games I did see, they always going at it. It's hilarious. Oh, nah. The worst was Crabtree and Akeem Khalid.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Hey, I saw Crabtree in Houston too, huh? We watched the fight together. Did you? Yeah, me, Crabtree, Andre Johnson, and EJ. Ed and James. We was all in the same place. Yeah, that was cool that was cool Mike say be watching
Starting point is 00:36:52 the show man that's dope man everybody be watching man that's dope yeah yeah Ocho the Texans plan on letting Stephon Diggs test free agency and Devontae Adams was cut by the Jets. Cheetah tweeted about the recent receiver movement around the NFL.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Everyone trying to get out. Why do you think there's so much movement with receivers currently, Ocho? I mean, you think of the receivers that are moving. Most of them are the veterans. Those that are, you know, up in age a little bit. Trying to get out of the back end of those contracts. Obviously, you know they're not going to allow you to hit the back end of the contracts. Cap hits.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Obviously, DK wanting to be paid. They're like, nah, we're not doing that. Which is why they allowed them to seek a trade. Devontae Adams, money. There's no way the Jets were paying the remaining of whatever the next year's salary was. Let me see. Stephon Diggs coming off
Starting point is 00:37:56 an injury. He was only on the one year to begin with. ACL. Yeah, on ACL. So hopefully he gets the opportunity to get back healthy and find somewhere where he can contribute. And those are the reasons. And Brandon Ayuk, the 49ers, is being reported that they're willing to listen to trade for Brandon Ayuk. So he's another receiver that might be on the move. And you have to understand why they're doing that. Brandon Ayuk actually also
Starting point is 00:38:27 coming off what kind of injury, if I'm not mistaken? Huh? Okay. What happened, Ojo? What kind of injuries are you coming off of?
Starting point is 00:38:39 ACL as well? Yeah, see? You know how they treat you, especially as a receiver. At a skill position, you know how they treat you, especially at a skill position? You know how they treat you if you're coming off Achilles or ACL? They feel you're not going to be the same. They truly do.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Fresh off his new contract, Max Crosby says he hopes Aaron Rodgers plays for Las Vegas this upcoming season. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Okay. The first year off in Achilles is one of the hardest things to do. You've seen it happen with Kirk. Kirk had a down year. It happened with Aaron. I mean, he struggled, like you said, early on, but he got better as the season went.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I think with all the doubt and all the negativity around Aaron Rodgers always needs to retire, things like that, he's getting cut by the Jets. I think he's going to come back and have a... I mean, I know he's 42 or 41. Are you going to say ABB? No, I think he's going to have a big year this year.
Starting point is 00:39:35 And I hope it's in our town. That would be awesome. I'm like that. I'm not. See, Max listening to me. Max listening to me. Me and Max had some words not too long ago, right? Matter of fact, watching the show.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Max watched the show because I said something about the Raiders not being able to go anywhere because they didn't have a quarterback. And Max, you know, he shot me a DM. And I explained to him, I say, Max, you've been playing this game a very long time i played the game a very long time too you know in order to contend and to compete you already know who's in your division you already know a quarterback you got to see twice a year in order to even have a chance you have to have consistent quarterback play max you know that now i love you baby now the reason he's shooting that shot and wanting Aaron Rodgers to come, because there's hope that we can get to Aaron Rodgers of old. Now, you won't get him consistently,
Starting point is 00:40:30 but if we can get him in a, you know, we can get him to peak and to come down a little bit, it gives us a chance. It gives you that feeling of hope. Now, sometimes, you know, when you got kids and you tell your kids, you know, Santa Claus is going to come and get them cookies,
Starting point is 00:40:53 kids get excited you know there will be excitement in las vegas if aaron rogers decides to come and plus they're going to draft a rookie quarterback allow them to sit by aaron sit behind aaron for a year maybe two depending on how long he wants to go. I think they'll be all right. Yeah, I don't think Aaron Rodgers makes the Raiders an instant contender. No, absolutely not. But it'd be better than what they've had before. Yeah, and they just released Gardner Minshew. What? Aiden O'Connell is the only quarterback, I think, if I'm not mistaken,
Starting point is 00:41:24 that's still currently on the roster. I think I read today that they released Gardner Minshew, or they're going to release Gardner Minshew. So that'll be a great landing spot for someone. Ocho Vikings legend Jared Allen roasted the Jets at his press
Starting point is 00:41:39 conference. Let's listen to what he had to say. Jared Allen. I'd rather be close than who sucks the Jets? Oh, gosh. Being the Jets would be miserable right now. I just can't believe anybody took that job. Oh, rough one. So you get to say this stuff when you're retired. You can say whatever you want. That's awesome. Talk bad about all the organizations because they don't pay paychecks. That's awesome. Talk about it on all the organizations because they don't pay paychecks. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:42:11 That's funny. People don't realize, Ojo, he started his career in Kansas City. They just remember him from the Vikings. And last year, if I'm not mistaken, I think he played with Carolina. But he originally started, he was a hellraiser in Kansas City. Ran a little, got a little trouble off the field. Right. And they, you know, they traded him.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Mm-hmm. But he was, hey, he was a heck of a player. Oh, yeah, very good. A heck of a player. Remember every time he'd get a sack, he roped the cattle, or what do you call it, when they jump off the horse on the calf? Yeah. Calf roping.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Yeah, calf roping. I used to love that little celebration. He was nice. He was nice. Old Jared Allen. Ocho, check this out. A tweet went viral this week saying jelly-filled donuts are gross. What?
Starting point is 00:42:58 It's just a big, nasty A, B. If you eat this, jam-filled donuts. Why are you tripping, man? Give me a jelly donut. Do you eat this jam filled donuts Why you tripping man? Give me a jelly donut Do you eat jelly filled donuts? Now you know I eat a little bit of everything Don't do that, you know that Ain't nothing wrong with no jelly donuts, Dunkin Donuts
Starting point is 00:43:15 I get, I get, I get I get glazed, I get chocolate You like stuff Be careful Be careful now, listen Oh you like stuff gushing in your mouth huh yeah i just asked you is that what you like yeah i mean you don't y'all heard it chat y'all heard it no i don't you serious i'm gonna talk about that what you said hold on hold on hold on So you never had a jelly donut?
Starting point is 00:43:49 I said you like stuff gushing in your mouth. You said yeah. So you never, you never, can I ask you a personal question? I know, listen, the chat, we all family. I'm just asking. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, like, horizontal activity When you have foreplay And she's squirting
Starting point is 00:44:06 You don't catch it? Mm-mm I ain't never been no backstop That's what you used to call it back When I was growing up A backstop, that's a catcher Oh, nah It's nourishing
Starting point is 00:44:20 It's nourishment Nah, man You living in the 80s Don't they got a little emoji With a guy doing this? It's nourishing. It's nourishment. Oh, man, you... Don't they got a little emoji with a guy doing this? No, I ain't seen that one. Don't they got a little emoji with a guy doing that, George? Yeah, they do. Oh, you got to catch it, man.
Starting point is 00:44:37 You got to catch it. I ain't got to catch nothing. I'm just... Listen. I don't like baseball. I don't like catching. I call footballs for a living. That's the only thing I'm catching.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Okay, one more question. One more question. I have called watermelons. Huh? Wait, what do you mean? Like watermelons? Like watermelons? Or you mean real watermelons?
Starting point is 00:44:56 No, watermelon that you eat in the summertime. Oh, okay, okay. You got to be more specific, man. Watermelons. We talk about one thing, and you want something else. Oh, man. Watermelons. We talk about one thing, and you want something else. Oh, man. I call it watermelons.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Okay, watermelon. Okay. Can I ask you a question? How do you want this to be nasty, but you ain't really with the nasties? It don't make no sense. Okay. the nastiest. It don't make no sense. Come on, man. At some point,
Starting point is 00:45:35 you got to live. Okay. Which donut looks more appetizing to you? The one on the left or the one on the right? Where is that? Where is that?
Starting point is 00:45:44 Where is that? Let me see. Put it back up there. Put it back up there, graphic. Let me see. Where the donut at? Where the donut appetizer to you? The one on the left or the one on the right? Where is that? Where is that? Where is that? Let me see. Put it back up there. Put it back up there, graphic. Let me see. What a donut that. What a donut. What a donut.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Because I can't. I know everybody. Is that one? What about the other one? Can we get the other one up there? I don't like the powdered sugar on top. I don't like that. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Oh, yeah. Listen, jelly donuts from Dunkin', they really good. I just don't like the powdered sugar. What about eclair? Hold on. I'm just not. You haven't had eclair? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:11 An eclair? See? There you go. There you go. See? Eclair. They good. They good.
Starting point is 00:46:18 We getting somewhere. We getting somewhere. No. I don't like filling. What do you mean you don't like filling? So I don't like jelly filled donuts. I don't like filling. What do you mean you don't like filling? So I don't like jelly-filled donuts. I don't like stuff that have whipped cream or something inside. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:46:38 What would you... Nah. Matter of fact, speaking of whipped cream a friend of mine a friend of mine a mama I know I know she probably watching
Starting point is 00:46:51 she told me man what's up man what's up I was like listen sis I'm trying to I'm trying to get him to get out
Starting point is 00:46:57 to get out of you know get out the box yeah see which one you like Ocho the one on the left or the one on the right no see I'm not
Starting point is 00:47:04 in this case right here, that powdered sugar donut over to the left, I'm not eating that because then not only do I got to deal with the jelly, I got to deal with my mouth getting white.
Starting point is 00:47:12 I don't want my mouth white. So I take the one that's lightly, the lightly powdered sugar one to the right. Yeah. Yeah, I don't like that one on the left.
Starting point is 00:47:19 I mean, I don't eat jelly filled dough. Like I said, I don't like anything with the pastry inside. That don't do it filled. Like I said, I don't like anything with the pastry inside. That don't do it for me. Yeah. Man, you got it.
Starting point is 00:47:31 At this point, it's been there in two years, and you have yet to even give a thought of trying to change and do things different. I did. I changed. I'm wearing bigger clothes now. Can't you tell you? I took your advice.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I took your advice. Chat, y'all won out. Y'all done got on me so bad, I went up a size and clothes, okay? That's all I got for clothes, okay? That's all I got for you, Ocho. That's the only thing. Listen, we need to evolve. We need to evolve with the time
Starting point is 00:48:15 and your love life, not your clothes. Not your clothes. Oh, man, that was a good one. Ocho, you just can't go around putting your mouth on everybody. Huh? You cannot go around putting your mouth on everybody. Why are you telling me that?
Starting point is 00:48:34 I don't do that. Who is everybody? I don't deal with everybody because everybody's an added expense. I'm just saying. Now, one person, now that's different. Everybody costs. At some point in time. Now, one person, now that's different. Everybody calls. Hey, at some point in time, everybody been one person.
Starting point is 00:48:50 That's what I'm saying. You can't put your mouth on everybody. Not even one person at a time. I have never ever, ever seen nobody start a lawnmower by just pushing it. At some point, you got to pull the goddamn string. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Hey, sometimes they turn by themselves. You ain't seen them. You turn lawnmower by just pushing it. At some point you got to pull the goddamn string. That's okay. Hey, sometimes they turn by themselves. You ain't seen them U-turn lawnmowers they got? Put on a dime. Do all the work. All you do is just sit up there. They got a body, my old show. Nah. You got to involve. You got to.
Starting point is 00:49:22 You can't allow the roads to defeat you. Fight the power. We as men, we are competing against toys. Man-made toys. And until you evolve, then you're never going to be able to please the young women that you're meeting.
Starting point is 00:49:39 That's all I'm trying to get you to see. You got to try new stuff. i can't look oh man look at man i know i know how you feel man you don't want to do it i understand oh i look here i understand i'm aging out i get that i'm aging out even even the job boards they making you retire at 65 yeah they pushing us out, don't you? Yeah. I understand. Mm-hmm. I'm about to,
Starting point is 00:50:09 in four months, I'm about to be 57. I don't look it. Feel good. How you like me? 57. Dang. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:23 But you know what I'm saying? I understand I'm getting phased out them younger guys in their 20s early 30s you know yeah and they do it they are tricking cars and houses
Starting point is 00:50:39 and working crock bags whoa whoa whoa there's only a small there's a a very, very, very, very, very, very small percentage of dudes that can do that. I know, but those small percentage of dudes that can do that, they're interested in the type of women
Starting point is 00:50:54 that I'm interested in. Then I can't do that. You see what I'm saying, Ochoa? Okay, I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you.
Starting point is 00:51:00 I got you. Well, listen, I mean, all the women are competing for the same goddamn individual. So Well, listen, I mean, all the women are competing for the same goddamn individual. So it's like, I mean. And the thing is, you know, they say it ain't tricking if you ain't trying. Well, I can't trick. I can't even try to trick.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Okay. I got you. I got you. They already know I ain't no trick or treat because I didn't even put candy. I do Halloween. Ooh. I got that. That's a good one. Hey, listen got i got i got somebody for you but
Starting point is 00:51:27 she's about 56 too huh i got somebody for you she told me to tell you before the show started she told me what the hell i'm gonna do in the 56 year old watch golden girls what you scared of man scared of what you just said the younger women is kind of like you know you don't have a chance with them so why not i gotta say hey hold up whoa whoa whoa whoa hey as long as i'm breathing and they breathe it i got a chance i ain't saying it's a good one you know i said i ain't saying it's a good one, but I got a chance. Okay, okay, okay, okay. You're right. Carl, think about it. The birth control pill is 99.9. There's a chance that
Starting point is 00:52:11 a mishap could happen. Okay, okay, okay. No matter how small it is. Right. You got a chance. Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, listen, I'm going to pass you your number anyway, then. I'm going to let her take it from there. I'll see what happens. Hey, man, I was in Houston today, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Oh, I just left Houston last week. I know. Old boy told me. The one that took your pictures at the place. I saw him. He pulled up. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:42 I was out here at Specs. Miss Landy, I know you you probably watching but she was great uh her father started specks uh the uh the store uh and i think they got like what you say 200 of them jordan in texas specks out i went to the uh signature store man she was so uh also she was unbelievable. The team, the energy, the vibe. She went back there and had, she went back and drank some of the La Portilla, and she came back, that's some good ish. I like it.
Starting point is 00:53:14 But they were so great. So to the team and the staff at Specs, thank you guys for the great hospitality and everybody we got an opportunity, O to. You know me. Jordan got a shopping bag because he got to buy. I ain't
Starting point is 00:53:30 never seen somebody this man cannot. Like you know how like women go to some place and they got to buy something? Right. You are not going to pass a grocery store without Jordan coming out there with a bag of some He's going to get rotisserie chicken. He's going to get Hawaiian rolls.
Starting point is 00:53:46 He gonna get... Hawaiian rolls? Yeah. This dude, like, he going to the big thing. I like Jordan. You don't even know nobody in Houston. Oh, listen. If you don't know nobody in Houston, you're in the right place to find somebody, though.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're in the right place to find somebody. Hey, you know what I thought about? Speaking of finding somebody, what you think about going on the Golden Bachelor? Who, me? Yeah. Nah. What you mean? But I just said, hey, I saw
Starting point is 00:54:20 Sherri Shepherd. No, was it Jennifer Hudson? They asked Regina Hall about going on the Bachelorette. Okay, what she said? She said, do they got to kiss a lot of people? And she was rubbing her hand like Birdman.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Okay, that's right up your alley there, huh? Hey, listen, you want me to put in a good word for Regina Hall for you? Bro, look here. You don't know Regina Hall. I know Regina Hall, huh? You know of Regina. No, I know Regina Hall.
Starting point is 00:54:53 No. You want me to put in a word for you? No. Why are you scared? Oh, Joe. Why are you blushing? Look at her. Even when I do, you can't tell.
Starting point is 00:55:10 You can't tell. It bling right on there with this nightcap. Hey, people think I got a tattoo, a nightcap tattoo across my chest. They don't even know I got a hoodie on. Nah, man, but it's always great. It was a very short trip in Houston, but it's always good to come down here. The people are great. Like I said, I had a great time at Specs, the flagship store here in Houston.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Man, I ain't never seen a liquor store like this. Oh, so they got everything. There's a liquor store with a grocery store. Man, they got, like, you make sandwiches. They make fried catfish. They got everything. They got cookies. They got pastries. They got a cigar room.
Starting point is 00:55:50 I mean, I'm like dying. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. A cigar room? Yeah, well, you go buy cigars. It's the biggest. Oh, okay, okay. I thought you meant you'd be smoking that. That's up my alley.
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Starting point is 00:57:45 Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. to express himself loudly and boldly and stays true to form in Ali and Me, an eight-part Audible original. Guided by his own words, this series explores Ali's life and legacy through never-before-heard audio recordings
Starting point is 00:58:33 and discussions with those who knew him best. Muhammad had this real sense of his own personal values and principles, things he believed in, his own sense of conviction. Those convictions never wavered. Hosted by Muhammad's wife, Lani Ali, and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster, John Ramsey, Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common,
Starting point is 00:59:06 Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
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Starting point is 01:00:39 Now it's time for our last segment of the evening. It's time for Q&A. Earl C. Hey, I got a side bottle from you today in Houston. Are you ever going to do a memorabilia autograph session? I heard pros have deals with companies that allow them to do autographs with them. I'm thinking about doing something. Maybe I think in Chantilly, Virginia in April.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Chantilly. Chantilly, Virginia. Yeah, since my brother got into the hall. And so I'm thinking about something. I think I did something last year, a year ago. Normally, I only do autographs appearances like every seven years. But since my brother going in and they asked, I said, if y'all got something for him, I'll come. That's dope. That's live.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Dark Born said, Uncle Don't You love seeing y'all on First Take. I never miss a show. What do you think about the Chargers releasing Joey Bosa tonight? I never thought he would not be a Charger. The only reason you don't get cut, you retire before they cut you.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Yep. Other than that. Everybody. It's going to happen to everybody. But you see the injuries, the play has started to decline a little, and the injuries have started to mount. And when you're making that kind of money,
Starting point is 01:02:05 it doesn't add up. So I'm not surprised that this was the outcome. Kevin says, any chance Los Angeles gets a bonus on marketing in the offseason? And I'll bet a ball of shade my calves go further since Ocho won't come off that. I don't see him getting marketing because he's a max player. It's a bonus. I don't see that either.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Luka really wants a lob threat. He wants somebody that when he goes down, he can throw it up like he could to Lively. Like he could to Daniel Gafford. That's why they kind of really wanted Mark Williams before he flunked the physical, that was the guy when Luka gets down there
Starting point is 01:02:47 and you think he'd go and he'd throw it and boom. That's really what they need. They got plenty of scoring with LeBron and Luka and AR. But no, I don't think there's a chance they get some bonus or mark in it. People didn't think there was a chance
Starting point is 01:03:04 they could end up with Luka. Really don't put anything past the L they get some bonus of marketing. People didn't think there was a chance they could end up with Luka. Really don't put anything past the Lakers at this point in time. Isaiah Lancaster, what's good, Uncle Ocho? Are your five greatest Lakers, and what's picking Ricky, who are your five greatest
Starting point is 01:03:20 Lakers, and what's Ricky Pearsall's ceiling, you guys think? Greatest Lakers, Magic, Ricky Pearsall's ceiling you guys think? Greatest Lakers. Magic, Kareem, Kobe. That's hard one. Shaq and Jerry West. Jerry West.
Starting point is 01:03:41 You leaving Willed off, huh? Damn. Paul Will, Elgin Baylor, James Worthy. Sorry. LeBron. AC Green. Nah. AC ain't in that category. Yeah. Kareem, Kobe, Magic are the easy choices.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Then it gets hard. I think you have to put Shaq up there. Three championships, three finals MVPs, an MVP. Yeah, I'll go Jerry. I'll go Jerry West. The only man to win finals MVP on a losing effort. Kemper Norwood Jr. said, oh, my question is, who is the GOAT when it comes to race car driving?
Starting point is 01:04:24 For me, it's Dale Earnhardt Jr. Probably the king, Richard Petty. Richard Petty. 200 victories, seven Daytona 500s. You can make a case for Dale Earnhardt Sr. He has seven Winston Cup titles, not as many. Cut short, obviously, that tragic accident that claimed his life at Daytona. I like Cale Yarborough.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Who else do you think? Oh, Jimmy Johnson. You can put Jimmy Johnson in it. The lowest 48 car. Darryl Waltrip definitely needs to be mentioned. Buddy Baker. Bobby Allison. But for me, it's probably the King Richard Petty.
Starting point is 01:05:19 But I definitely think you could make a case for Jimmy Johnson. I definitely think you could make a case for Dale Earnhardt Jr. Not Dale Earnhardt Jr. Dale Earnhardt Sr. Jeff Gordon. Yeah. I think those for me the Silver Fox
Starting point is 01:05:42 Sterling again Austin Bill from Dawsonville. I don't think those guys won enough. De Silva, Fox, Sterling, again, Austin Bill from Dawsonville. I don't think those guys won enough. Fireball Roberts. Nah. That's my list. All right, here in DK,
Starting point is 01:05:57 one side of Seattle hurts, but why does he feel like this always going to be a case with him? It's okay that we got a dog and Gino and JSN. Guys want their money, man. Yeah. That's it. That's all they come down to.
Starting point is 01:06:14 And if they can't get it, they ain't go wherever they got to to get it. Yeah. Somebody's going to pay them. FrankTank921, Ochocho I love your style When you step out What are your top three clothing stores On a budget Oh that's easy
Starting point is 01:06:31 Target You can really throw You can really throw something together Target H&M Zara Express Men And probably Urban Outfitters
Starting point is 01:06:43 You know My suits From Zara, Express men, I get them tailored. And once you get them tailored to fit, it makes it look as if it's something expensive when it's really not. Just, you know, once you get it tailored to fit your body, your style, that's pretty much it. You know, every so it, you know? Now, every so often, you know, this year, I'm treating myself and I'm turning up a little bit in the fashion area. So when this year is over, I'm right back to my old ways.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Rahan Nagash says, Hey, Uncle Nochocho what advice would you give someone battling addiction well what kind of addiction you we need better context you need to be i need i need specifics so i can tell you exactly what you need to do based on whatever the addiction is well normally addiction is a chemical imbalance that you feel you got to have it. And the urge to have it is far greater than the urge you stand away from it. Yeah. I think, you know, people say, Shannon, you're addicted to work because it's hard for me to turn my mind off. It's hard for me to sit still. It's hard for me to go on vacation.
Starting point is 01:07:59 There's a reason I haven't taken one in 30 years. I just can't rest my mind. It's hard for me to sleep peaceful at night because I'm constantly thinking about who am I going to interview next? How do we make nightcap better? How do I get better at first take? How do, who, who is the guest that, that my listening and viewing audience want to hear?
Starting point is 01:08:23 Right. It's just, it's just the con is, is the constant of trying to get better and not being satisfied. Um, so I can just imagine, um, I'm very thankful.
Starting point is 01:08:37 I don't have an, uh, a dependency, drugs, alcohol, gambling, whatever the case may be. Um, it's hard. It's hard because a lot, drugs, alcohol, gambling, whatever the case may be. It's hard.
Starting point is 01:08:50 It's hard because a lot of times we create this. We create our demons and only we can chase them away. Because in order for you to have a drug addiction, you had to have tried it at some point in time. Yeah. You have a gambling addiction. You had to bet at some point in time. So whatever the shopping, whatever the case may be,
Starting point is 01:09:10 that's what the saying says. We create those demons and we have to chase them away. And it's hard. I ain't gonna tell you because, you know, me trying to just take one day off. I'm still calling even days that we don't work. I'm calling CJ. Well, CJ,
Starting point is 01:09:25 what do you think about this? Who are the bookers come up with? What what's on the list? They got a meeting tomorrow. The book has got to come with 10, 10 list of guests that could potentially that we think would be good on club. Shay. Shay.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Right. Um, I'm calling ash. Okay. Ash, what, what, what, what new segment?
Starting point is 01:09:42 What can we do? How do we get better at what we do? CJ, how can we get better? You know, we added the musical performance to kind of make it like Arsenio Hall. I really love what Arsenio Hall did. So it's just for me, and I understand. Maybe I am addicted to work because everybody tells me, say, that's your addiction, work. That's what addiction, work.
Starting point is 01:10:07 That's what gets you excited. Nothing gets you excited like work, like nightcap, club, shea, shea, first take. Nothing gets you that excited. Nothing gets you excited like that. Well, I found what I'm passionate. I found my passion. That's what I'm passionate about. This is what makes me jump
Starting point is 01:10:23 out of bed every day. Okay. This is what makes me jump out of bed every day. Okay. This is what makes me limp out of bed every day. Did I freeze or did I freeze? No, I'm right here. Blast Assurance said, please wish my mom, Linda Miller, happy 75th birthday. Happy 75th birthday, Linda. Happy 75th.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Hopefully you did something fun. You got taken out to a nice dinner. I got some nice gifts. Kids, grandkids. But happy birthday, Linda. Sir Kate, what's up, guys? My question is, why does Shadur get so much bad rap he's doing as being himself? We got to start something.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Every draft, every year, it's always one player. It's always one player. And the easy target this year, it just happens to be Shador. And I told y'all this. You didn't have a, you couldn't find a flaw with his father. So I'm going to take it out on his son. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:38 What are they going to say? I mean, so what was your argument with Deion? He's just the greatest that played his position. One of the top defensive players to ever play the game. And he went on baseball field and he was good at that. So damn, we didn't have nothing to say. First ballot Hall of Famer. Probably could have been a first ballot.
Starting point is 01:11:58 It could have been a Hall of Famer in baseball. Had he devoted all of his time to that. Yeah. Well, couldn't pick on him. Let's get his son. I mean, it may seem like Shadua wasn't the only one they didn't throw at the combine. There are a lot of people that didn't do anything at the combine
Starting point is 01:12:17 but take the physical and do the interviews. But who do we talk about? Oh, Shiloh ain't getting invited to the combine. Like, he's the only player that's ever gone to the NFL that didn't get invited into the combine. Right. Every week, look, it's going to click. He got the last name, Sanders.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Every time. It comes with the territory. And the funny thing about it, he's used to it. He's been dealing with it since high school. He's been dealing with it since high school. He's been dealing with it at Jackson State. He dealt with it at Colorado. Now he's dealing with it before the draft. He's going to be fine.
Starting point is 01:12:51 And he's built for it because he's been dealing with it so long. And he has the right person on his side. That's all he knows. To help him deal with it. Madeline said, do you put sugar in your spaghetti? Oh, spaghetti. No, hell no. Not a spaghetti. I'm trying to think when the last time I
Starting point is 01:13:09 had some damn spaghetti. Hold on. Let me think. Nah, I ain't had no spaghetti in probably 10, 15 years. Maybe longer. I don't eat spaghetti like that. Right. I'm trying to think. Lasagna? Oh, I I'm trying to think lasagna
Starting point is 01:13:25 oh I think I might have some lasagna on the plane but spaghetti spaghetti I haven't had spaghetti on Joe I have man I used to love spaghetti man when my grandma used to get paid on Friday yeah she was moving up there spaghetti man chef
Starting point is 01:13:43 Bardi right out of the can. Put him in the pot and warm it up. All right, man. I remember them days. Hey, listen, Chef Bardi, I had a number of ravioli. Yeah. We didn't get no ravioli. Oh, so you just don't put your spaghetti on rice?
Starting point is 01:13:57 Nah, nah, we didn't do that. Oh, damn. That was just, uh-uh. Damn, we were really poor. Damn. Hey, we went all the way to the end of that you want to put spaghetti on rice I ain't never did that one
Starting point is 01:14:16 hey my granny said boy you better get some to stick to your ribs hey rice and bread you'll get rice and bread with every meal other than breakfast i mean uh yeah other than breakfast you'll get rice and bread now ocho right damn i ain't know that we the only one chat i'm the only one that did that oh my bad damn don't tell nobody chat that was between us
Starting point is 01:14:42 so don't be saying man man saying man put a spaghetti on this rice I probably should have kept that to myself I ain't telling y'all issues y'all be trying to clown me man y'all be trying to make me feel bad this concludes this edition of Nightcap brought to you by Boost Mobile. Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or BoostMobile.com to join their nationwide 5G network today.
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