Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Parsons delusional, Prime to NFL?, Dwight’s beef with Shaq

Episode Date: January 9, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Micah Parsons making delusional comments like the Cowboys will win the Super Bowl next year. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss  Deion &l...dquo;Coach Prime” Sanders' appearance on the Million Dollaz Worth Of Game podcast with Gillie and Wallo saying he would consider an NFL coaching job if he could coach both his sons, Shedeur and Shilo together, Dwight Howard is still beefing with Shaquille O’Neal and much more!03:35 - Cowboys13:53 - Coach Prime24:18 - Falcons may keep Cousins as backup31:35 - Dwight Howard still beefing with Shaq49:10 - Q and Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:10 until they hire a head coach or they re-sign Mike McCarthy, they get a big player in free agency or they do something. We're going to be done talking about the Cowboys. We done? Especially if it does coming from Michael Parsons.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Michael Parsons said the Cowboys will win the Super Bowl next year. He said, going to be an amazing thing to see next year when we're holding that trophy. I take nothing that he says. I take everything he says with a grain of salt. Right. Because he said a couple of years ago,
Starting point is 00:03:35 they're going to have a Baltimore Ravens, a Tampa Bay Buccaneers, or a Seattle Seahawks defense. Right. He said this was going to be the year. So because the thing is, he just had, like Joe, like when Joe Namath did what he did, everybody remembers that. Uh-huh. But there's no ramification if it doesn't come true.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Oh, he just said that. Everybody only remembers when he said it. Right. So I'm going to be done because I think now, like he's doing his podcast more regularly. Right. And he wants to say that. Oh, man, you already know what Michael said.
Starting point is 00:04:06 So after today, I want you to get. And he wants to say that, oh, man, you know what Michael said? So after today, I want you to get everything that you want to say about the Cowboys until they hire or they fire Mike McCarthy. Right. They get somebody in free agency. We're done.
Starting point is 00:04:16 We're not doing this. We're not doing this anymore. I mean... Because I think now he just... He just saying stuff to get clicks on his podcast. And that's fine. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Hey, have at it. I'm not going to knock the man for the hustle. Right. But he's just talking ridiculous. Okay, but that's his team. I mean, is he allowed to have the belief that they have a chance to win the Super Bowl next year? Did he have the belief last year?
Starting point is 00:04:42 I believe so. Look up. When was the last team to win the win the super bowl and they didn't make the playoffs the previous year when was the last team to win the super bowl and they hadn't been to the end of to a championship game in 30 years how they gonna win the super bowl when he doesn't even believe his quarterback is top five you remember they was naming the top five quarterback and he left his quarterback out? Yeah, yeah. I remember. He talks more about a quarterback that
Starting point is 00:05:09 doesn't do anything for him than he does his own. Right. Damn. Hold on. I don't know if you remember, but I remember that I think they might have suspended they might have suspended T.O. when he was hyping Brett Favre
Starting point is 00:05:28 and they asked him a question. You remember that? Yeah, I knew exactly what you're talking about. I knew exactly what you're talking about. This man talking about ooh, Joe Burrow, he got to be the MVP. I mean, he's right about that but they ain't got
Starting point is 00:05:49 the 2019 Buccaneers was the last team that didn't make the playoff the previous year that won the Super Bowl see yeah hey
Starting point is 00:05:59 you never know okay is Tom Brady coming out of retirement absolutely not okay but you got to realize if you the year before James threw for 5,200 yards yeah look at what they had they had Mike Evans they had Chris Godwin they had talent and that defense Devin White they had uh uh Levante David uh they drafted Vita Ve, they had Levante David.
Starting point is 00:06:26 They drafted Vita Veya. They had Vita Veya. Look at the corners that they had. They were loaded. They just needed a quarterback that just wouldn't turn the damn ball over. That's it. That's all they needed. That's what they got. I'm not saying any other quarterback.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I'm not saying they would have won the Super Bowl with any other quarterback, but they would have been a playoff team with any other quarterback. If you just cut half the turnover, because I think he had 36, so you take that down to 18 during the playoff, they won nine games. And, in fact, Jameis Winston's season, he threw 33 touchdowns and 33 picks. Yeah. That was the season before Tom Brady got there. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:05 But that just going to show you so just say Ocho if he cuts half those interceptions because that's what Brady did
Starting point is 00:07:10 I just I like just be realistic bro you just be talking make it funny man how y'all going do you did you realize your defense your defense was terrible
Starting point is 00:07:31 yeah they were bad your defense was terrible it was y'all couldn't stop the run y'all couldn't stop a parked car with a uzi wait they couldn't guard the park they couldn't guard nothing don't y'all you couldn't stop let's go pull up the numbers let's go pull up the numbers in Russian teams ran wild
Starting point is 00:07:50 Derrick Henry ran wild who else ran wild Philly ran wild the first time on them who else ran wild on them hey oh you remember the Saints
Starting point is 00:08:02 you remember Saints over the day y'all gave up 40 points over the day week one and week two week one yeah Saints remember the Saints? You remember the Saints over the day. Y'all gave up 40 points over the day. Week one and week two. Week one. Yeah, Saints was eight. And we know what the Saints turned out to be.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Right. And the next week they played, who did they play? Was it the Ravens? They played the Saints week two. Oh, they know. They beat Cleveland and everybody was up in arms. Right. And I said, hold on, slow down.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I want to see them play when somebody have a competent offensive line. They're starting two guys that hadn't taken snaps in the NFL. And everybody was, oh, and the Cowboys, oh, yeah. I said, okay. Okay. You just had to wait and see. Ravens, Saints
Starting point is 00:08:39 and Ravens, didn't they? They beat the Giants and the Steelers and then whatever. It was downhill from there. Lost to the Lions 47-9. Remember, that's when they was running trick plays. They throw back shoulder fades
Starting point is 00:08:53 to a tackle. They run a hook and lateral to a tackle. Tackle, yep. That's what they thought so much of y'all defense. Name the time you've ever seen a team run a hook
Starting point is 00:09:02 and lateral to a tackle. They threw a back shoulder fade to a tackle. They threw a back shoulder fade to a tackle. But that's the defense that's going to take you to the Super Bowl. Who they playing for the Lions? Lost to the Niners. Falcons. Eagles.
Starting point is 00:09:20 All I hear is lost. All I hear is nothing but no dub. Hey, listen. You got to believe in this team, huh? You got to say all the right things, especially for that all I hear is lost all I hear nothing about no dub right hey listen you gotta believe in this team you gotta say all the right things especially for that for that
Starting point is 00:09:30 for that say we're gonna be better than what we were this year huh say we're gonna be better first of all your quarterback hadn't been able to stay healthy
Starting point is 00:09:37 consistently instead of going to the extreme huh we're gonna be better right but don't you guys gotta be better now all I know think about what y'all in that building better right but don't you guys got to be better
Starting point is 00:09:45 now all I know think about when y'all in that building y'all don't win in your own how you going to go to the Super Bowl and you can't win in your own building
Starting point is 00:09:53 win at home yeah hey did they go 0 for 8 at home or they did they won one game they won two they might have won two games at home
Starting point is 00:10:00 who did they beat at home they beat they beat the Giants in Carolina right or did they beat at home? They beat the Giants in Carolina, right? Or do they beat Carolina on the road? Okay, they beat the Bucs and the Giants at home. They beat one playoff team all year, right?
Starting point is 00:10:21 The Bucs. They'll beat Washington. Right. They beat the Steelers. They beat the Steelers, Washington, and the Bucs. They'll beat Washington. They'll beat the Steelers. They'll beat the Steelers, Washington, and the Bucs. Okay? They had a couple quality wins. Okay. They won three? One, two, three? No. They won two at home. They beat
Starting point is 00:10:38 the Steelers on the road. Remember, they beat the Steelers on like a Sunday night, I think. But they're not that good. They're a long way from a Super Bowl. First of all, you're not going to go to a Super Bowl because your owner ain't going to let you. Your owner not going to let you. That's your problem.
Starting point is 00:10:56 And y'all, the culture of the Cowboys is talking. That's what their owner does. That's what these players do. He in the way, huh? Yep. that's what their owner does that's what these players do in a way huh yep that's what they do they talk so the Cowboys also blocked McCarthy from talking to the Bears for one more week
Starting point is 00:11:17 they have Wednesday but they had a one week exclusive rights window. So, a week from today, if they don't have anything done, which I don't expect, it's going to be
Starting point is 00:11:33 gone. And they're doing it on purpose. What's the point? You had plenty of opportunity. If you were going to sign Mike McCarthy, you could have done it at any other time. You could have done it at any other time. After five years, you don't know what you got? After five years, you don't know if you want to be with this woman or not?
Starting point is 00:11:49 What is Jerry doing? That's his call, right? That's his call to lock that? Yes, absolutely. That makes absolutely no sense. That makes absolutely no sense to hold a man hostage because if you wanted to pay him, you would have paid him already.
Starting point is 00:12:08 You would have paid him already. Let the man go. Let the man find another job somewhere else. And I think he's probably holding on to him until he finds out who he gets. Who's available. Bingo. But here's the thing, Ocho. He wants coaches to take an incentive based contract
Starting point is 00:12:26 He thinks it's an honor And look there's only one of 32 It is kind of an honor to coach the Cowboys It's an honor to coach in the NFL Because there's only 32 jobs Yeah yeah yeah But Ocho On an incentive based contract
Starting point is 00:12:43 When everybody else is getting 8, 9 $9, $10 million a year, and you think I'm about to take $4 to $5 plus incentive? Oh, hell no. Oh, hell no. And plus, you're not going to let me do my job. You do all the talking. Uh-huh. Plus, you're not going to let me do my job. You do all the talking. What general manager, what owner has his own radio show?
Starting point is 00:13:12 None. None. Now, you already took a shot at Mike McCarthy. You said maybe the plays you call a little archaic. That's what you said. Now you say, hey, Mike McCarthy's a winner. Mike McCarthy's the winner. Man, he gonna always say the right things
Starting point is 00:13:29 and don't know what he talking about. He don't know what he talking about half the time, man. No, he doesn't. But who's surprised by that? Coach Prime says he would consider
Starting point is 00:13:42 an NFL coaching job if he could coach Shador and Shiloh. Take a listen to Coach Ochoa, what Coach Prime had to say. It is. Play that seed, boy. The only way I would consider continuing is that
Starting point is 00:13:58 I'm coaching my sons. Plural. Not singularly. Plural. I likely. Plural. I like the sound of that. I like the sound of that. So what we need to do is we need to pay attention where Shadur goes. Not only do we need to pay attention where Shadur goes, at some point, we also need to pay attention where Shiloh goes.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Right. right wherever sadur goes there's an opportunity there's a chance at some point in the in the near future that dion could be the head coach of that team if that team suffers early on all he's doing now is playing the seed now you didn't put it out there now so the opportunity is going going to present itself because you know how god works one thing when one thing one thing about it when you when you're when you're a child of God, the opportunities you ask for, the tongue is powerful. Anything you say, anything you say, there's a chance it will
Starting point is 00:14:52 happen. And I say this here first. But the question is, look, we know Shador is going to have a high grade. What type of grade is Shiloh going to have? And, you know, look, Tennessee has a high grade. What type of grade is Shiloh going to have? Right. And, you know, look,
Starting point is 00:15:06 Tennessee has a high draft pick. They have one of the first three, four picks. We know that. But what's the grade on Shiloh? Does he have a third round, fourth round, fifth round, sixth round, seventh round grade?
Starting point is 00:15:19 Free agent? That's the question. It's different. Football is different than basketball. Basketball, you only got two rounds. And most of the guys that come out in the second round, I mean, every once in a while, you'll get a Ben Wallace. No, Ben Wallace was a free agent.
Starting point is 00:15:40 You'll get a Nikola Jokic. Now, that's an extreme case. Second round draft pick, three-time MVP, finals MVP, or you get a Draymond. Mm-hmm. But the second round is really not often, Ocho, not often. Right. Now, the NFL, these picks are very, very, very, very valuable.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Very. So the question is, what type of grade and how high is he going to be selected? Now, time said, plural, both of his sons. Could Tennessee take Shador and then he's there, say, fifth or sixth round, takes Shiloh. I don't know if he's going to have a third or fourth round grade on him. I don't. Right. I don't. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I haven't seen any of the mob drafts. I haven't seen anything Mel Kiper has put out or come up with so far. Still kind of early. But it's going to be interesting. I can't wait. I can't wait to April. Because I want to see. I want to see those first five picks.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I want to see where they go. I want to see what the Bengals get, where they can improve at. Hell, I'm waiting to see who the defensive coordinator is going to be for the Bengals. Well, y'all better be out of the boatloader because y'all going to lose Trey Henderson.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Yeah. He's posted back-to-back 17 and a half sacks. Back-to-back. Yeah, somebody's going to pay him well. Boy, he was the long right spot y'all got. Oh, you're talking about on defense? On defense. Okay, okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:21 You right, you right. Y'all second day had a problem holding up. Can you imagine the problems y'all going to have with no pressure? Yeah. It's. It could get ugly. I don't think Pratt really wants to leave. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:45 He got a great situation. Yeah, even with a great situation, you don't pass up really wants to leave. I don't know. He got a great situation. Yeah, even with a great situation, you don't pass up that kind of money. You don't pass up an opportunity like that. Those opportunities... Oh, no, no, no. He's not going to pass up an opportunity to coach his son. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:57 But guess what? He ain't going to just be coaching his son. Right, yeah. He's going to be coaching a lot of other hardheads, you know what. Right. Now, you know Prime. Prime going to get the respect now.
Starting point is 00:18:06 You know that. You know that. They ain't going to play like that. Matter of fact, he ain't going to let you play like that. And he can. It's different now, Ocho. The way you and I respect people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:31 And my thing is, why not just have respect for everybody and just do your job? Show up on time, do what you're supposed to do, go home. That's not that hard. It's really not. Nah. I can see, Ocho, you know, you're working, you got multiple jobs, and you get off late, and you got to change and stuff like that. Bro, you know you got to be to work at 9 nine o'clock or you got to be to work at eight 30.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Okay. You know, meetings started such a, such a time practice started such, I don't know. Look, we started, I practiced started at two o'clock because Mike wanted to keep,
Starting point is 00:18:57 keep us on a schedule. Just like we played on Sunday. Right. We played at two o'clock. Let's practice at two o'clock. And when we had a night game, we'd go run through the stuff at the stadium, get used to seeing them all up in the lights.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Yeah, I mean, that's what we did. I mean, our schedule was according. I just never understood that, but I'm trying to think. Tennessee, Tennessee, Tennessee don't have no opening. They fired the general manager, but you have the coach.
Starting point is 00:19:25 So Tennessee's off the table. Makes absolutely no sense. Yeah, I'm biased because I know Ray. I congratulated him when he got the job. I'm trying to think. Okay, the Raiders are available. Who else is available? Oh, the Jags are available?
Starting point is 00:19:43 Yeah. But the Jags ain't taking a quarterback. They just gave Trevor Lawrence a chance. No, no. But the Jags ain't taking a quarterback. They just gave Trevor Lawrence 55 minutes. No, no, no. They definitely ain't taking a quarterback. So the Raiders, who else? The Bears, Patriots. Well, first
Starting point is 00:19:55 of all, none of those teams are taking a quarterback. They took Caleb up at number one overall and they took Drake Mayne number three. So none of those teams are going to be in play because they're not taking a quarterback. Right. The Jets? The Jets. The Jets are way down though. Wait, how far down?
Starting point is 00:20:11 The Jets probably what? Seven? They're like in the 13, right? Or 10. Well, no, they're probably in the nine or 10. What? Jets are seven?
Starting point is 00:20:24 Jets are seven. I knew I just, I knew I wasn't tripping when I said seven too. Yeah, the Raiders, we know Raiders got a top five pick, right? Or they're six? Six.
Starting point is 00:20:37 They get, they... Brady and Tom, Brady and Tom are familiar with each other. Both used to be under, well, I think Tom still is, but Ty used to be an... Well, I think Tom still is, but Tyne used to be an underarmor guy.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Right. Until he went back to Nike. Glad he did that. The Saints got an opening, got a vacancy. I like where you're going with this. Prime and Vegas. Raiders go up. The Cowboys might have an opening
Starting point is 00:21:07 but I don't see them getting off deck they just gave the man 60 million nah I like that Raiders that Raiders look or Colorado could give another 5 year deal for 9 million a year plus in savings. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:21:30 I like that. That could happen. That could happen. But I still, if that NFL opportunity, if that window opens for Pratt to go coach in the NFL, matter of fact, even if it wasn't Shiloh, if it wasn't Shador, I still think he would. I think he wants to coach his son. Because you got to realize, his sons have never played. Shador has never played for any other coach other than Pepin.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Right. I understand that. I understand that. At no level. I don't know if anybody can ever say that. The only head coach I've ever had is my dad. Right. That's dope. that's dope that's dope but i just knowing prime the way i do boy they came a calling they came a knocking
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Starting point is 00:27:02 Ocho, the Falcons are now seeming to be willing to keep Kirk Cousins as their backup quarterback in 2025 if they can't get anything in a trade for him. $180 million for a backup. Yeah. Now, I told you firsthand, I like this. I like this. You know, Cousins.
Starting point is 00:27:19 And you know, you get the quote. I said, Ocho. Yeah. At the absolute best case scenario. Right. The absolute best case scenario right the absolute best case you get kurt for two years but ocho do you realize how what a debacle this will be if you get him for one yeah well it's already that it's already yes because not only you get them for one now he's not gonna be a starter now going forward. That's what 180 million
Starting point is 00:27:46 for a backup. That lets you know how desperate teams are for a quarterback. He still might get traded because there are other teams that need a veteran presence where they might bring him in just to be a starter. No.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Why would I do that? First of all, you know why? The same reason reason they probably gonna bring aaron rogers back oh sure the difference is is that kurt cousins guaranteed 38 million right i'm gonna do it like russ no i'm not trading i'm gonna go get him because if i trade for him i gotta pick that 38 up right so no i'm gonna let y'all y'all y'all do what y'all gonna do y'all cut him and then right oh then we decide but hold on he might have a no trade oh yeah i think he has a no trade i think he does have it in there if i'm not mistaken yes he has a no trade so he has to have he has to agree to it come here
Starting point is 00:28:54 come on it might get to that point boy you love you camera hogging up all the camera time you looking for a wife what up tween is there anybody out there that has a two year old he said I'm two years old
Starting point is 00:29:21 I weigh 173 pounds and I'm looking for a girlfriend. I am intact. So we can make beautiful babies. He said, whoa, whoa. I ain't say nothing about no babies now. I ain't say nothing about no babies.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Hmm. You weren't in the kitchen eating. But, uh, Ocho, uh, Ocho, that man got 38 million coming. He got 62 million this year. Right. So he's going to make 40, he's going to make 90 million in the first two years. You got to understand, Kurt been making money for a little minute too now. He been making a good,
Starting point is 00:30:10 a pretty penny for a very long time. So him. Keep going on, I'm going to put him up. Come on, let's go left. Go ahead. You know,
Starting point is 00:30:16 Kirk, hey, Chad, Kirk getting the money he's getting now. Listen, I hate saying he's been, he's been able to swindle. Obviously as a player,
Starting point is 00:30:23 you earn every dollar, every cent you get. And I'm all for, you know, you getting yourle. Obviously, as a player, you earn every dollar, every cent you get, and I'm all for you getting your money. But Kirk Cousins bet on himself. Kirk Cousins bet on himself for a very long time when he was in Washington. Oh, you want to franchise tag me? Okay, bet. Oh, you want to franchise tag me again?
Starting point is 00:30:40 Okay, bet. Then he goes somewhere else. Boom, he gets the bag. I mean, it is what it is. It is what it is. Chat, how y'all doing? Hey, chat, my birthday is in exactly 26 minutes. 26 minutes.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I'll be 57. And not just any 57. I'm a good looking 57 where at times I still get carded at the cigar spot when I go get cigars. That's how young I look. Oh, man. Chat. What do y'all got? We got Saturday. Chargers.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Texans. Who we going with? CJ Stroud. The pull-off would I consider upset. Or we got Justin Herbert. CJ Stroud's offensive line. Do they find a way
Starting point is 00:32:02 to block Bosa? Do they find a way to block Khalil Mack? They've been really, really bad. They've been really bad this year, especially their offensive line. That's his way of saying, put me up. Oh, he kept bothering you?
Starting point is 00:32:16 Yeah. He tired. I had him up since 6.30 this morning. I take him out because when I don't have him to do the show, I can take him for a walk. I take him for a walk, so he, when I don't have to do the show, I can take him for a walk. So I take him for a walk. So he's been up for the better part. He's only been in his pen for about 30 minutes a day when cleaning people
Starting point is 00:32:32 come to clean. They're afraid of him. So yeah. Jordan, the computer. So I put him up, but yeah, he was, that was his way of saying, I'm sleepy today. I'm tired from bed. So I don't know what you got going on, but we need to fix this.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Hold on. But that was my biggest concern when I was talking about when the Kirk Cousins thing came to be. Right. You're going to spend $180 million and you're going to take a quarterback. Yeah. You just might as well go ahead and take the quarterback and just leave Cousins alone.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Right. Now you understand why they did, though. You understand why they did. You take Kirk Cousins based on his resume, despite only winning one playoff game, you know what you get from him from a statistical standpoint in the regular season. You're worried about the playoffs later on.
Starting point is 00:33:18 And then you get security because he's coming off an Achilles injury. And lo and behold, it happened. Ocho, that's what I'm saying. Ocho, you paying the guy like he's coming off an Achilles injury. And lo and behold, that happened. That's what I'm saying. Ocho, you paying a guy like he's 30 and he's not coming off a damn near career-ending injury.
Starting point is 00:33:33 He was already, Ocho, he was already not mobile. Right. And that makes it worse. Yes. Yeah. And Cousins had, the Statue of Liberty
Starting point is 00:33:43 has moved more than Kirk Cousins. And that thing ain't moved in 200 years. That's a good one. That's why it didn't make sense to me. It never made sense to me. And you try to rationalize
Starting point is 00:33:55 like, okay, the Terry Kirk, they have him for two years. Bro, you paying 90 million for two years? But what happened? Lord forbid,
Starting point is 00:34:03 you don't want to see this happen. Right. But what if it doesn't, what if you only have him for one year? But what happened? Lord forbid, you don't want to see this happen. But what if you only have it for one year? You spent $90 million for a quarterback for one year. 90. Nah, it didn't make sense for me. But hey.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Oh, Joe. Dwight Howard is fed up with Shaq constantly talking about him. He says he wanted to show up in TNT studio to confront him. At what point does this stop? Aiden Boy got a tussle, man. That'd be, listen, we talk about celebrity boxing, which is kind of simmered down a little bit, somewhat fell off. Now, that'd be a good one. Dwight Howard versus Shaq.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Four rounds, four three minute rounds headgear headgear no headgear they just need to duke it out they need but i i don't i don't really get shaq's angle dwight is not the player you were we know that right um you're one of the most dominant you're one of the top players that's ever played in the game your place in history is secure i don't get why punch it down solid yes i don't get why punch it down but i don't get the constant okay the superman like i'm superman i i get i i don't get that uh but i i just don't i just don't get what i don't get is the comp it's the constant it seems like for me it seems like sometimes shack goes out of its way to pick at or to pick on you
Starting point is 00:35:33 know we call that picking at you know we've grown up in the south but you know what i'm talking about right it's like um but i don't get it and and and why like everybody everybody don't get it. And Dwight, like, everybody don't joke like you do, Shaq. Shaq's a big, fun-loving guy. If you've ever been a writer, you know he likes to have fun. Yeah. But it doesn't seem like your jokes are in good nature.
Starting point is 00:35:57 It seems like you're trying to diminish the man. Dwight Howard is not, he didn't win a championship, but Dwight Howard is not a bum. Dwight Howard is not, he didn't win a championship, but Dwight Howard is not a bum. Dwight Howard should have been an all 75, a 75th anniversary player.
Starting point is 00:36:13 He should have been. That's not to knock anybody. Congratulations to everybody. But Dwight Howard, for a period of time, was a top five player in the league. He was. He took a team to a championship.
Starting point is 00:36:25 He was the de facto best player on that no magic team that went to the finals, that lost to the Lakers in four. Dwight Howard's a damn good player. He's going to the Hall of Fame. I just don't get it. I don't know. Man, listen, we will never know because they've been going at it for a... Oh, dude, he did win a championship.
Starting point is 00:36:47 He wasn't the best player on the team. He won a championship with the Lakers in 2020. Right. They've been going at it for a while. They've been going at it for a minute. So what's the end game? We don't know. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:57 We don't know the issue. We don't know what the issue may be. Maybe he just doesn't like him. Maybe he just doesn't like him. Okay, why? Oh, no. I mean, in order for you not to like somebody, the guy's had to have done something to you.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yeah, probably has. Maybe it's something we don't know about. Maybe behind closed doors. Maybe something privately that we don't know. He just has a distaste for him in general. And that's his way of letting them know by always jabbing at him, by always saying something. No, you got to put us down.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Shaq's the better player. Nobody's arguing that. He's a four-time champion, three-finals MVP, a league MVP. I mean, he's one of the historically great players. But I don't, you know, and clearly it bothers Dwight. I mean, they're grown now. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I mean, both players got kids. And I just don't get it. I don't. I really don't. Maybe somebody in the chat can understand it and can help me understand. But this has been going on for long enough. Maybe, maybe it's the, maybe it's the Orlando. Um,
Starting point is 00:38:08 maybe it's the, uh, the Superman thing. Right. Um, I don't know. Maybe who's the best big man to play in Orlando. I don't,
Starting point is 00:38:15 I don't know. I don't. And I thought about, I was like, well, damn, why, why,
Starting point is 00:38:21 why shot, you know, picking on the man, you know, going back and forth. Cause I don't, I don't think Dwight's ever said anything to Shaq or said anything to or about Shaq. You never know. That's why I say you never know.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Now, it might not have been said publicly, but you tell the wrong person and they get back to Shaq and they let you know, hey, boy, you know, young boy been talking about you, you know, and then, you know, he reacts. That's why I say, you never know. It's always something that is always something. But at this one time, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Huh? I say at this point in time, Shaq 50. He got to let it go now. I know. He never too old now for a little tonsil yes it is
Starting point is 00:39:07 yes it is oh come on it's time out for this now y'all grown y'all Shaq grown at some point in time you're about to have grown about to have grandkids
Starting point is 00:39:15 and you still punching down on somebody I just you right I don't get it I don't get it but like I said bro everybody everybody don't get it I don't get it but like I said bro
Starting point is 00:39:26 everybody don't joke everybody don't want to hear you every time something come in your mouth you talking about me in a negative manner right
Starting point is 00:39:33 what's the end what do you get out of that you better you got more money you a better player you got more championships you got all these businesses Shaq got so much going on.
Starting point is 00:39:47 I mean, Shaq don't have to take a back seat when it comes to business. I mean, the way he's been able to parlay his... I mean, think about it. Shaq's a big... I mean, you're not going to find anybody that big, that jovial. He likes to have fun. He's very philanthropic. He's
Starting point is 00:40:03 very generous. He'll help... Hey, get very philanthropic he's very generous he'll help hey hey get that get with a he'll be in a store somewhere and parents can't get something for the kids you take care you might if i get that yes he's always been like that time for that and i think it has to be because when he was a kid his parents weren't able to afford things that he could get and so he never wants the kid to feel like he felt when he was growing up because he couldn't get certain things. So Shaq if I got, I mean, as far as generosity, but Shaq
Starting point is 00:40:32 as great as he is, he ain't got to keep doing this to the white. It's time to let it go now. This thing been going on for about 10, 15 years. That's why I said it. Listen, at this point, they got to tussle now. They ain't got to tussle. It's too big that's what they see that's that's what they want us to do you will we'll see we'll when did last time you
Starting point is 00:40:49 see two white men go there like this all the time you don't see the videos who all the videos i'll be seeing the video you'll be going at it oh i don't know who person give me some names i'm sporting on i say i see you you say they're going at it. You know. No, you ask me. You don't see. You ask me who I see go at it. I say, you say. I say, I ain't.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Ocho. I'm talking about famous people. I ain't talking about somebody fighting on the internet, Ocho. Oh. I'm talking about famous people. Oh. Two famous white people going at it. I'm trying to think.
Starting point is 00:41:21 When do you see that? I got to think about it. Okay, go ahead yeah i can't think of them right now the top of my head now but you know they be so why we gotta do that that's i ain't going back about the book i like i said i get it right but shackq don't need no cred. Shaq is a standalone. Shaq is Shaq. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:47 When you say Shaq, you know, if they say Shaq, you know they're talking about Shaquille O'Neal. Right. Nothing else needs to be said. Shaq can walk in any room and everybody knows who he is. People do business with him because he's Shaq. Right. And he's a very good businessman because you know what you get when you brain check in the room. But we don't got to go back and forth.
Starting point is 00:42:08 They laugh at us. I ain't seen Justin Timberlake and Alan Thicke go at it and Robin Thicke go at it yet. They're saying the same kind of songs. But we go at each other. Yeah. Adele ain't going at Christina Aguilera.
Starting point is 00:42:26 She ain't trying to get at, she ain't trying to get at Mariah Carey. We got to stuff. I don't know. Maybe it's just me. Maybe it's just me. Hey, let them have,
Starting point is 00:42:41 Hey, that's what they want to do. But I, I don't, I don't, you know, I think we're at a point right now that everybody's making money yeah we ain't got we ain't we i ain't got i ain't got i
Starting point is 00:42:53 ain't got to try to demean uh somebody that's in this space i don't feel like i gotta demean no black person right i don't gotta demean nobody but i'm sure not going to demean somebody that's in my space. Why? There's enough for everybody. Also, did you know 80% of the money that's in circulation has been printed in the last five years? Right. Let that sink in. Chat, listen to me. 80% of the money that's in circulation currently has been printed in the last five years. So in other words, if they're not enough, they'll print some more of it. And they lost its value? Sure. But guess what?
Starting point is 00:43:27 They'll print some more of it and you can get it. So I don't feel I need to be negative or talk down or be demeaning or say anything negative about anybody in order to make money. That's just me. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:43 They're going to get it together at some point. Listen, after 10, 15 years, you know, maybe Dwight can be the big man, and maybe Shaq can be the big man. Say, hey, man, let's get on the call. Let's squash this. But I think Dwight tried to say, didn't Dwight
Starting point is 00:43:57 say he'd like to, you know, have a conversation? Look, I don't know if it doesn't really need to be on the podcast. These two men can have it. It's private. Watch this. You know what I'm saying, don't you? Yo, hey, y'all go to a private and say, hey, bro, what's the deal with me, man?
Starting point is 00:44:13 What's going on? I mean, being Superman, you Superman, you big Superman, it ain't that serious. Right. Because Marvel Comics own it all. So it's not like we can really copyright the name. Y'all benefit off of it. Yeah. So it's not like it's not like we can, you know, really copyright the name. Yeah, I'll benefit off of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:28 So that's that's what I'm getting. I just like, look, it's enough. I just hate and I've made it I've been like,
Starting point is 00:44:35 man, I ain't going to go back and forth with people that look like me in my community and go back and forth. Why? Well,
Starting point is 00:44:40 since you feel like that, I'm glad you feel like that. So I ain't got to pay your money, man, since we ain't going to. Oh, no, you ain't running my money. Huh? Run me that. You just said we ain't got to go back and forth. You don't want to go back and forth.
Starting point is 00:44:51 No, we ain't going to go back and forth. You going to go to the bank and bring your ass forward with my money. That's the only back and forth I want to go with. I don't know. I don't know what you're talking about. No. That got nothing to do with that. Now your energy. Hold that. Now your energy.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Hold on. Now your energy changed. No. My energy is you've been talking about your. First of all, you owe me more money, too. But I let that slide. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, Chad.
Starting point is 00:45:21 What are we talking about? Chad, do y'all remember Ocho said, OBJ, we're going to have X amount of yards. I let that one slide. I didn't even bring that up. I let it slide.
Starting point is 00:45:34 But if you don't bring me, if you don't run me my money, pronto, it's going to be trouble. Trouble. Now, come on with it. You have Apple Pay. Again, let me try this again.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Do you have Apple Pay? I got Ocho Pay. Huh? Apple don't owe me. Ocho owe me. Okay, but Ocho uses Apple Pay. So that is my... No, I want Ocho to use Ocho Pay.
Starting point is 00:45:59 I don't have Ocho Pay. You ain't got Ocho Pay? You better have Ocho Pay. I have Apple Pay. I can pay you right now. What's going to end up happening is you're not going to accept my terms
Starting point is 00:46:11 in which I'm trying to pay you. Whoa! How you going to owe the bank and tell the bank they got to accept your terms in which you're going to pay the bank? I'm not the bank. I'm the man with the money. I'm the bank. Well, if you're the bank. I'm not the bank. I'm the man with the money. I'm the bank. Well, if you're the bank and I'm trying to pay you
Starting point is 00:46:27 my money, I'm giving you... See, you don't want it. You don't want it. I'm gonna hold on to it for you. How about that? No, you don't... Whoa, whoa. So now you're telling me my money drawing interest in your pocket. What the fuck
Starting point is 00:46:43 is that? What the hell? What the hell? What? Hey, Chad, where they do that at? Am I missing something? I missed. Clearly, I missed something. Hey, but listen.
Starting point is 00:46:57 And you might want to get Apple Pay. It's 2025. The fact that you don't have these devices on your phone is beyond me. It makes life easy. PayPal, Apple Pay, Cash App. Didn't I just tell you? All my TVs, my Netflix account, my Amazon, Ash has an email. So my thing is Ash.
Starting point is 00:47:21 And sometimes she be having too many accounts on. She got to turn off one of the TVs so I can watch TV. Okay. I said, hold thing is Ash. And sometimes she be having too many accounts on. She got to turn off one of the TVs so I can watch TV. Okay. I call, I say, hold on, Ash, you watch the TV? How many TV you got on? It's my account. I said, but I can't watch TV. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:38 You want me to say, you want me to send Ash? Wow. Why Ash? Did you bet Ash? No, I bet you you but you don't have Apple Pay okay then pay me
Starting point is 00:47:48 alright listen I'm trying listen we've been going 10 minutes now and I'm trying to pay you we've been going nothing
Starting point is 00:47:55 I ain't got no money I don't see no money you said money listen money out of sight cause a fight huh yeah absolutely will
Starting point is 00:48:03 yeah I mean listen I don't and if listen, I don't... And if... I don't know why... No, I'm not... Hold on, hold on. Listen, my phone just down.
Starting point is 00:48:09 No, I'm not going to change me. I don't got no cash app. I ain't got all that stuff on my phone. Just download it. Download it. I don't know how to download it. My phone don't take except downloads. But my pocket,
Starting point is 00:48:21 won't you download 4,000 in my pocket? Download that. I'm trying to, but you don't want it. No, you're not. In a minute. Listen, you're going to have to get it in blood then. You're going to have to get it. Don't buy it if I do.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Let me tell you my prayer. I want to mess these Tiffany's up. I would hope you say that. Let me tell you that right now. Gee. Hold on. Give me just a second. Take it to my face and look at that. I was hoping.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Oh, there it is right there. I was hoping you'd say that. What? You're so low, man. I bet you I'm old. You got to take it and blow that. Yeah. And, uh, when you got money, you got my stomach hurting.
Starting point is 00:49:39 We got these too, don't you? Oh, hey, when you got my summary man please that was funny hey you say you're gonna pay me at the uh at the show at all at all and uh uh new orleans okay all right i'm gonna bring cash i'm gonna bring you cash matter of fact before we start the show before we start the live show, I'm going to put your money in front of everybody. I sure appreciate that. Yeah. Bad, believe me.
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Starting point is 00:54:55 Oh, it's time for Q and a Rodrigo. Really? Is that a real name? Well, whatever. Hey, y'all. Hope y'all been having a great start to the new year. Ocho, pay 4K in pennies. First of all,
Starting point is 00:55:16 you don't realize how heavy 4K in pennies is. That's what you don't realize. That's the thing, because I had to get a wheelbarrow when I paid Alpha Williams and Susan B. Anthony. 4,000 pennies, that's a lot of pennies. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:31 He don't want to do that. He don't want to do that. Aaron O says, we got a foot of snow in just a day and over half here in Cincinnati. What's the worst weather emergency you witnessed? You know what? You know what? I've been, well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:55:46 Hurricane Andrew in 1994. I don't know if that, I mean, obviously that counts as, I mean, the worst thing I've been in is Hurricane Andrew. It messed Miami up. It messed Miami up. It messed down south up. Yeah, Homestead. Yeah. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:56:03 It was bad. I mean, that was the worst thing i've been into i've been i've been in an earthquake a few times in l.a yeah but nothing you know to the magnitude of what hurricane andrew did to did to us down here so yeah yeah obviously if you're in the south you got tornadoes and you get hurricanes or a hurricane a hurricane david were you sure andrew was in in in 94? Andrew might have been in 92, Ocho. I think so.
Starting point is 00:56:29 I think it was 92 because we ended up going down there and playing a celebrity ultimate frisbee thing down there. It was 92. Okay. Yeah, but Hurricane David i was in the ice storm in atlanta when they when they locked the whole city we have we have no no snow trucks no nothing
Starting point is 00:56:57 because we've never had anything like that before and they gridlocked the city. That might have been 20... Was that 2014? Wait, hold on. Ice? Locked the city? Ice storm. We had an ice storm in Atlanta. I think it was 2014. Huh? The city wasn't prepared for an ice storm? No, hell no!
Starting point is 00:57:19 Because we don't get no weather like that in Atlanta. We prepared. Now they got snow trucks that salt trucks and stuff like that but boy that thing locked the whole city down oh i'm telling you i went oh chill because i was because i was just that was the year the super bowl was in new york and i was supposed to go right and uh my flight was at 4 30 and it started i was like man let me go ahead and go so i left my house at 1 p.m right to go catch a 4 30 flight i missed the flight by the time i got off the interstate and got back and turned around i walked to my house at 6 6 a.m 6 a.m that morning 6 a.m
Starting point is 00:58:03 that's how bad the traffic was. Golly. When I say it locked the city down, if you were in Atlanta at that time, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Locked it. Hey, it was worse than freak me.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Pat Dumb said, how you holding up in LA and what are your thoughts on another round of Evans versus Lattimore? Oh, yeah. Man, that thing will be epic. Yeah, it's going to be nice.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Nah, I'm not. Is he going to be playing? I thought he was Nick. Yeah, Lattimore was hurt last week. I'm not sure, you know, if he's going to be nice. Nah, I'm not. Is he going to be playing on show? I thought he was Nick. Yeah, Latimer was hurt last week. I'm not sure, you know, if he's going to play this game. I'm hoping he does because I think when I think about the command is secondary, the only person that will be able to match up well against Evans is Lat that is Lattimore I think Lattimore should also ask I'm not sure who the D coordinator is for the for the commanders he should also ask to follow
Starting point is 00:59:12 Evans wherever he goes yeah with a lot down the city or back to what I've said I had a generator so my whole house was operational I was the only one on my block the house was operational because i had a generator so like if the power goes out within five seconds my generator run in a run just continue to run okay and if something goes wrong with it a signal send a signal out and they'll come you know if it needs gas or whatever the case may be but i was i was great you know great great great great ran out of food oh no you had another food you had anybody over there with you or you were solo no i didn't have anybody come on i offered uh my neighbors uh right
Starting point is 00:59:51 across the street from uh mr charles and miss mary rest of soul miss mary passed a couple years ago but um they'll i always looked after them so i always you know made sure they was okay i would go check on them if i hadn't seen them in a couple days right i go knock on the door uh you know, made sure that was okay. I would go check on him. If I hadn't seen him in a couple of days, I go knock on the door. Uh, you know, the dogs love him. I have, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:08 I let the dogs out and they see Mr. Charles in his yard. They run across the street and, you know, he'd pet him and everything like that. But, uh, no,
Starting point is 01:00:15 no, no one came over. I think we were out of power. We were probably out of power about three or four days. I think a lot of people went and got hotels on show. So, but, uh,
Starting point is 01:00:23 nah, I was, you know, I always check on them. I said, if they need anything, cause they're So, but, uh, nah, I was, you know, I always check on them. I said, if they need anything, cause they're an elderly couple, uh, didn't have the kids weren't really wasn't around. I mean, it would come, but by the time it was going to be a couple of days, cause I think they had one, like, I think they had like two daughters.
Starting point is 01:00:39 I think one was in Jacksonville. I don't know where the other was, but, you know, but I looked out for him. Sheldon Pope said, Ocho, your knowledge of basketball over the year has improved tremendously. You admitted yourself, your knowledge of basketball
Starting point is 01:00:51 not up to par, but listening to you, on point, first take, ready for you. Hey, I'm like, I'm like George Sedano,
Starting point is 01:01:01 you know, I'm like George Sedano. I'm like, oh, wrapped in one, you know, with a little bit of Doris Burke, you know? That's me.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Oh, Joe, you know what time it is? What? It's 9 p.m. West Coast time. Yeah. So that means it's your birthday East Coast time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Yeah. You see you see me vibrate you know we celebrate. You can't see me. Where you go? So chat y'all wish happy birthday happy birthday to Ocho.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Yeah. It's what it's what 57 look like you hear me? Huh? It's what 57 look like. You hear me? Huh? This is what 57 look like. Too bad you ain't been able to shake the covers on your birthday. Oh, nothing.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Don't worry about it. Oh, oh, oh. I could shake some covers now because I got- I see you back. I see that nightcap sign. Yeah, I'm at my place. Now, listen, I could- No, you at your place.
Starting point is 01:02:03 You at that place. No, no, I'm not. Remember, I'm on my left. This is a new spot. Now, listen. No, you at your place. You at that place. No, no, I'm not. Remember, I'm on my left. This is a new spot. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't play. I don't play.
Starting point is 01:02:12 You know, I got to stand on business. Yeah. Now, if you see that Christmas tree behind me, then you know where I'm at. You was there the other day? Yeah, I was there the other day. Yeah. Uh-huh. They begged me to come over.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Yeah. Oh, boys, the man don't bend the knee. You know what? Not me. Not me, because I'm not saying no business. Hey, San, Nightcap, you guys doing great work. When there's a dull moment, you guys are here keeping it real and motivating. I effing love you, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Hey, I love you too, sir. I love you too. Hey, he don't run me my money ain't gonna be much to love on Ocho he need to break bread NFL matchup highlights said what's up Ocho just wanted to know y'all thoughts about Sean Taylor and how he compared to Ed Reed, Troy Palomaro
Starting point is 01:03:01 or if he was even better I remember Ocho saying Sean gave him multiple concussions. Look, I retired. The year he got drafted, Sean Taylor got drafted, I retired. So I didn't play against him. He was a phenomenal player.
Starting point is 01:03:16 The greatest safety that I ever played against that I took off on film is Ed Reed. Now, that's not a knock on no other safety, and I'm sure there are some great ones. Troy, I played against Troy as a rookie, but Ed Reed is the greatest safety that I ever saw with my own two eyes that I ever took off on film. Yeah, listen, obviously, I had to deal with Ed for a decade straight, man, a few times
Starting point is 01:03:39 a year. Ed is probably the greatest safety of all time. Troy Palomaro is right up under there that's if I was a 1A and 1B it would be Ed and Troy obviously I've watched many safety before before my time obviously I didn't get a chance to play against him but what Ed and what Ed was able to do out there on that field man sideline to sideline and just just his understanding of the game it was unbelievable Sean Taylor was different he was he was he was a physically imposing yeah he was a big man 6'3 220 could run yeah yeah he
Starting point is 01:04:16 just stood it was he was good I think he was he was taken from us too early before yes we were able to see him reach his full potential yeah you just want to know what you saw what he was taken from us too early before we were able to see him reach his full potential. Yeah, you just want to know what... You saw what he was trending towards. Oh, yeah. Let's just say he had a 12, 13-year career. Then we could fully evaluate what he was. We saw where he was headed.
Starting point is 01:04:41 But I've never seen a Saintsie take the ball away like Ed and turn it into points. It wasn't've never seen a safety take the ball away like ed and turn it into points and it wasn't good enough for him to take the ball away he wanted to turn it into points whether he punched it out and scooped it up himself whether he picked it whether he bought the punt whether he ran a punt back i've never seen a guy turn off turn defense in the offense like ed reed could and listen if he can't score, he gonna pitch it back. They'll pitch the ball back 25 just to make sure they make it to the end zone.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Young Willie Will said, what's up? Shout out to Ocho. Can I get a birthday shout out? Yes, you can, Willie. Happy birthday. You and Ocho share a birthday. But if Ocho don't run me my money, get the last one. That's it. Listen, I that's it listen I hold them hands
Starting point is 01:05:27 I hold them hands working now as a matter of fact I had them updated yesterday just in case just in case Cupcake Mama said hey guys my birthday was yesterday may I get a shout out?
Starting point is 01:05:45 I spent it quiet. I spent it quiet and solo. I'm just grateful and thankful for another year. Happy early birthday, Ocho. Yes, ma'am. Cupcake Mama. Happy belated birthday. You know, sometimes it's okay to spend a birthday nice, quiet.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Yeah. You know, all that hullabaloo. You know, hey, that's how I am. I like to spend a nice little quiet evening, you know, maybe shake the covers if I can, if I'm lucky. You know, I ain't been lucky the last couple of birthdays, but it's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Yeah. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go lighten me a cigar, man, right now, turn on some Frank Sinatra, you know, relax on the balcony, kick my feet up and, you know, think about the balcony, kicking my feet up and, you know, think about the good times, think about the younger years and
Starting point is 01:06:28 thank God, you know, for seeing... Think about what you can't do no more. What? Play football. J213 said, hey, Uncle Nocho, hope all is well. I pray you have a great holiday season. My question is, which social media platform do you think is the most detrimental to society? Look, man. I pray you all have a great holiday season. My question is, which social media platform do you think is the most detrimental
Starting point is 01:06:46 to society? Look, man. I mean, shoot, society... There's good and bad. There's good. I mean, there's some good things. There's some good aspects about social media. But there's also some bad things. And people sometimes... And that's always the case. People have always...
Starting point is 01:07:02 Anything that was made for good, people have some way found a way to turn it into bad. And that's just, that's just who we are as a society. That's just the way society is. All the misinformation, all the hatred
Starting point is 01:07:17 and all the vitriol that gets spread through social media. Somebody says something because before Ocho, before social media, when you printed something, you know, like newspaper, you had to get a couple of sources, two or three sources.
Starting point is 01:07:29 It had to be vetted. Or because you was worried about, you know, you were worried about getting sued for defamation of liable. Now on social media, man, that thing's pretty whatever. And if you're a public figure, it's harder to sue for defamation of liable. And they know that because you're a public figure it's it's harder to sue for defamation and libel and they
Starting point is 01:07:47 know that because you are a public figure so they'll say things and they try to skirt and try to parse it with certain things but we just man we just we've become angrier we've become more hateful more spiteful. Yes. Uh, we just, we just don't, we just don't care for one another. And it's, it's sad that this is what it's come to.
Starting point is 01:08:12 You gotta, you gotta adapt with the times, baby. You gotta adapt with the times. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said, Oh,
Starting point is 01:08:21 congrats on being nominated for entertainer of the year by the NAACP. I'm proud of you. Happy birthday to my first cousin, Ocho. Doc, thank you so much. It's an honor to be nominated for the NAACP Entertainer of the Year Image Award. A lot of hard work winning that. Congratulations to the team at Club Shea Shea for the hard work that you've done. Appreciate all your hard work, CJ, and your staff over there.
Starting point is 01:08:46 So, man, congratulations. And thank you guys because none of this is possible without you, be it Nightcap, Club Shea Shea, me being on first take. Whatever my ventures are, you guys have been very, very supportive. So I want to thank you for making all this possible. I remember at the end of 23, I said that 24 is going to be great. It's even better than I could have imagined. Better, way better, way, way, way, way better.
Starting point is 01:09:14 And so thank you guys. Thanks, Doc. Again, thank you NAACP for the nomination. Congratulations to all the nominees. Everybody is deserving but I want to thank the fans because you guys made it possible Blam!
Starting point is 01:09:34 What's up Uncle Nocho? My name is Deshawn and today is my birthday too I'm shaking covers and smoking cigars all weekend long how do you guys like to celebrate birthdays? much love B-Boy. Go flop. Happy birthday, Deshaun. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Man, I'm just a little quiet. I want to go get a workout that morning. Obviously, you know, my family's going to call. The kids are going to call. My brother and sister call my mom. Always call me.
Starting point is 01:10:06 She called me on the phone. Tell my shadow, you know who this is? No, mom, I have no idea who this is. So she go call me wish me happy birthday. But,
Starting point is 01:10:17 you know, go work out. Just go. Nice. I ain't no big celebratory guy. Oh, no, I think we're the same.
Starting point is 01:10:24 We're the same. I don't. You have to beg me to, no. I think we're the same. We're the same. I don't. You have to beg me to even have a dinner. You better surprise me or trick me into thinking we're doing something. I'm not into that. I'm not doing no clubs. I'm not doing no parties. I'm not doing any large gatherings.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Give me a cigar. Give me some coffee. Cafe con leche. Give me a latte. Give me some Starbucks. Let me kick my feet up. Listen to some music. Smoke me a cigar. me some coffee cafe on leche give me a latte give me some starbucks let me kick my feet up listen to some music smoke me a cigar and i'm content obviously now on my birthdays i go see my grandma my mama at the graveyard sit there talk to them talk to them for a little bit um outside of that they buried next to each other right next to each other yeah yeah so I mean that's it I'm good Dominique Fong
Starting point is 01:11:07 shout out to Ash got that Laporte order figured out only matter of times till I we paired that with them Sparks Thunder and Lightning yeah the thing them little Sparks
Starting point is 01:11:20 now the Sparks they got it right that's the right name for Sparks now. The Sparks. They got the right, that's the right name for Sparks. Now, today was my birthday. Happy birthday, them folks. Hang on. Everybody
Starting point is 01:11:37 got a birthday? I mean, Capricorn season. Yeah. What's yeah sup AJ Zamora sup Uncle Ocho big fan day one supporter love with CM Punk and the other night happy birthday Ocho love from Texas
Starting point is 01:11:55 salute that's it to everyone celebrating a birthday today happy birthday hopefully hopefully to everyone celebrating a birthday today, happy birthday. Hopefully, hopefully you do something fun. You enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:12:12 You spend it with family, friends, and loved ones. And you realize, yes, you was born on this day, 25 years ago, 35 years ago, 40 years ago, whatever the case may be. Just be thankful that God allowed you to see another one. Because there are a lot of people that had an appointment and they didn't get an opportunity to reschedule it. So happy birthday.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Hopefully it was safe, enjoyable, pleasant for the Nightcap family. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y'all know me. I'm your favorite Shannon Sharp. That guy,
Starting point is 01:12:46 Liberty City's own bingo ring of fame, auto read the pro bowl of the all pro. That's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Guys, you have helped us grow immensely.
Starting point is 01:13:02 And for that, Ocho and I can't thank you enough thank you for your support thank you for your continued support because of you you allow us to be who we are and you allow nightcap to grow expeditionally day after day month after month year after year so here at the nightcap family we want to thank you make sure you check out shade by laporte we have it in stock. The holiday season is not done yet. We got Valentine's Day. We got St. Paddy's Day.
Starting point is 01:13:30 We got a number. And there's so much to be thankful for. What better way to celebrate any occasion than with a bottle of Shea by La Portia. And if you can't find it in a city or state near you, just order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. And please drink responsibly. Go check out my media company on all of its platforms.
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Starting point is 01:14:17 cause you over here taking my stuff quantities are limited so make sure you grab yours while supplies last tickets for the Super Bowl show is the New Orleans is our first spring tour stop and it's in New Orleans the Thursday before the Super Bowl tickets are on
Starting point is 01:14:40 sale now the link is pinned at the top of the chat February the 6th in New Orleans at the Mahalia Jackson Theater. We got guests lined up. You don't want to miss this one. This is going to be epic. And it's Super Bowl weekend. Our hearts go out to everyone impacted by the fires in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Hopefully, you're safe. I know a lot of people that have lost homes, cars, possessions, lost everything, but you still have life, and that can't be replaced. So our hearts and thoughts and prayers go out to everyone impacted by the fires, the wildfires that are ravaging Los Angeles and surrounding areas. The Cavs end the Thunder 15-game win streak, and there was a battle between the league's two top teams.
Starting point is 01:15:24 The Cavaliers moved to 32-4. OKC Thunder fall to 30-5. The Cavaliers win 129-122. They got a big outing from Jared Allen, who had 25 points, 11 rebounds, and 6 assists. Evan Mobley had 21 points,
Starting point is 01:15:40 10 rebounds, and 7 assists. And they needed it because Donovan McNabb had a cold night shooting. He was 3 of 16 from the floor, 2 of 7 from the field, from the three-point line, and he only had 11 points. But Darius Garland chipped in with 18, Wade had 11,
Starting point is 01:15:56 and Ty Jerome had 15, Max Groose had 17. As they win 129-122, snap! The 15-game winning streak by the OKC Thunder. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. I'm Uncle Heath Ocho. We will see you tomorrow.
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