Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Pat Bev discusses why he doesn’t like NIL, Kyler Murray wants to run more & things black people take seriously!

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Pat Beverly react to the NIL making college players stay longer, Kyler Murray wants to run more next season & a video goes viral of what black people take seriously & much more!!04:22 - Pat Beverly on NIL10:45 - Kyler Murray wants to run the ball more13:14 - Ohio senator only wants to give money to winning teams14:43 - Things Black people take seriously20:37 - Q&Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Do you think that'll help the NBA? Yeah, I don't like that. That's semi-pro. That's semi-pro. That's all that is. Right. Like, if you actually think about it and break it down that's semi-pro right

and and it's crazy because three years ago everybody crying about yeah get an athlete yeah get a college players man they need to get paid I'm all with

anyone doing anything you love you can get paid to do it do it I'm with it right until it hurts the game

when I watch Auburn play it felt like it felt like and they end up losing but in the beginning ofurn play it felt like it felt like and they end up losing but in the beginning of the game it felt like grown man going against teenagers

right right and if and like and I was a kid I had to go through college 18, 19 year old we all know who

Steph Curry was in my class we all know who Kevin Durant he's like all these guys in my class you in the 06 class you took your class serious right you feel me We all know who Steph Curry was in my class. We all know Kevin Durant. He's like all these guys in my class. You in the 06 class, you took your class serious. Right.

You feel me? How am I still in college cooking? And you in the NBA cooking and we in the same class. Right. How y'all older than OKC? Yeah. And you telling me like, and people wonder like, man, it wasn't a lot of buzzer beaters.

Yeah, because it's grown in playing now. It ain't a lot of one-shining moments no more. Remember in college basketball, you know how many 3-2-1s somebody shoots from half? Man, it's semi-pro. Semi-pro, man. And it's going to hurt the NBA. That's what it's going to do.

Pat, we're going to get you out on this one. Being a Chicago native, give me your top five players to come out of Chicago. Ooh. Man, got to go D-Rose. Yeah. D-Rose, that's one.

Got to go D-Rose. That's off the top. Got to go D-Rose. I'm kind of different, so I'm going to go... Hey, uh listen I know a lot of these people your friends so what I call Chicago might be kind of different than what people call Chicago you know a lot of people might say they from Chicago but I ain't never seen a motherfucker walk down the street you feel me so my Chicago very different than a lot of people chicago so i'm gonna start

i'm gonna start with d rose right i'm gonna start with i'm gonna start with isaiah thomas okay that's two all right that's two it was a guy back in the day i don't know if y'all know his name was benji wilson benji he's the one who started a lot and he don't get enough credit. I'm putting him in there. Okay. Right. Now it gets,

it gets kind of, it gets kind of funny, right? It gets kind of funny. Um, cause you can go Michael Finley, right? You can go Quentin Richardson,

Antoine Walker. You can go right now, but I'm not, I'm gonna go. We'll buy them. Wow. Well, Wynton Richardson, Antoine Walker, you can go right now. But I'm not. I'm going to go Will Bynum. Wow. What he did in high school was electric. I've never seen anybody.

He's probably the best high school player that ever came out of Chicago. Wow. Because he averaged like 30-something, didn't he? Yeah. Will Bynum? He went to crane. Yeah, I'm talking about I was a kid running up to the school. I'm running up to the school hoping to get in the game, right?

Hoping to get in the game. And then I got to go. I got to go. I got to give it to him. I got to give it to him. It's tough because I can go Anthony Davis. I can go D-Wade. But I'm talking about the Chicago, Chicago. So I go Anthony Davis. I go Anthony Davis. I can go D-Wade. I can go, you know, but I'm talking about the Chicago, Chicago. So I go

Anthony Davis. I go Anthony Davis. Wow. But my Chicago different though. That's all. You feel me? Like the other people that say they're from Chicago, it's a 45 minute, 33 minute drive.

You gotta be from the south side or the west side to be from Chicago minute drive from where I'm at you gotta be from the south side or the west side to be concluded Chicago that's all I'm saying that's all

and I don't want to step on nobody toes because there's a lot of people that say they came out of Chicago but from the west side of Chicago

only person that I kind of know that went to the NBA is me from Chicago right right I got you

I got you that's all. So, so, but if you want to go other Chicago, I'm going to go D Wade. I'm going to go, uh,

I'm going to go Anthony Davis. I'm going to go D Rose. I'm going to go Isaiah Thomas. I'm going to go, uh, uh, Antoine Walker. I'm going to go those guys.

Yeah. I like it. Thank you for joining us. Hey guys, make sure you go follow Pat Bev and subscribe to his podcast the Pat Bev and Roan

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Guys, make sure you go follow this podcast, PatBev with Rome on YouTube. Pat, thanks for joining us, man. We got to get you back to join us, man, for the playoffs. Come back and join us, bro. And no, I ain't going to lie. I got to give me some of that drink, and I ain't the one to beg. I'm the one to buy my own. And I tell you what, I'm the one to buy my own. And I tell you what,

I'm going to send you a case. Let me buy my own first. Let me buy my own first. Okay. Yeah, let me spend some money. I'm going to spend it on Corona. Let me spend it with you. Okay, that's what's up.

I promise you. I promise you. This is the best cognac. This is the best VSOP cognac you're going to drink. I promise you. Oh, love that. Love that.

I appreciate that. Thanks for joining us, man. Wish you the best of luck. Appreciate you, to drink. I promise you. Oh, love that. Love that. I appreciate that. Pat Bell, thanks for joining us, man. Wish you the best of luck. Don't you speak old legend. Appreciate you, gang. Appreciate you, brother. All right, boy. I love you.

Jack, give it up for Pat Bell, man. Man, he was amazing, though, Joe. Pat Bell was amazing. Hey, I enjoyed that, man. That was very, very informative, man. Very informative. You know, for me, Unc, you know, you've been around basketball for a very long time.

You understand the game, the intricacies of it much better than I do. But to hear those that have played the NBA for a long time, and hear them break the game down and just talk about the game with such passion and enthusiasm, well, that's a joy.

It's a joy just to sit back and watch Pat's face light up when he talks about certain topics and certain things. That's dope, man. I really enjoyed that. Yeah, that was unbelievable. All right, let's transition, get to some football. Kyler Murray says he wants to run the football more next season.

Let's take a listen to what Kyler had to say, Ocho. Yeah. I mean, like, the people out there, they're like, Kyler doesn't want to run or he wants or like how do you dispel that because I I just look at it's just part of the offense yeah I um I actually you know conversations and I don't want to get too scheme based about it but like uh I do feel like I have to run more next year um you know I'm opening to I'm open to running more next year um just because it's such a it's such a weapon you know it's such a weapon it's um you know defense is it's like when I hand the ball off obviously I hand the ball off to James so it's such a weapon. You know, it's such a weapon. It's, you know, defense is, it's like when I hand the ball off,

obviously I hand the ball off to James. So it's not like, you know, I hand the ball off to Trey. I hand, you know, we're a very good rushing team, which is a great thing. But when Lamar hands the ball off, everybody's like, oh, like, you know, you take it, you can relax, you know. Josh hands the ball off, ah, you know what I mean? So I think for us, part of the emphasis going into the next season is conceptually on time, I feel like I'm one of the best in the league.

I like that. Me too. I remember there was some coach that played that said he didn't want to run. Now he said, and he's right. The most dangerous player, the most dangerous is when he has the ball in his hands. Lamar is the most dangerous when he has the ball in his hands. When you don't know what he's

going to do, you pray he throws it. You pray Josh Allen throws it. You ain't trying to get, you're not trying to get to see any of those guys. Josh Allen, 6'6", 250. Lamar Jackson, oh man. Yeah, ain't trying to get, you're not trying to get, see any of those guys. Josh Allen, 6'6", 250. Lamar Jackson. Oh, man. Yeah. Ain't no telling.

I like it. I like it because when you think about what Kyler Murray is able to do, I think he's also become a quarterback that, you know, he's a dual threat. You know, he can play off script. He can pull the ball down and use his legs. But he's one of those quarterbacks who also wants to throw first. He wants to hurt you with his arm first. And then if I have no choice, then I use my legs after.

I think he wants to be seen and viewed in the same light as your Lamar Jackson's, as your Josh Allen's, and other dual threat quarterbacks around the NFL. I think that he hasn't had the team success that they have, you know, being able to reach the playoffs consistently year in and year out. But I think allowing him to do that more, being able to use his legs a little bit more to help them out offensively

would be tremendous, you know, for Arizona. I agree. I agree. Oh, yeah. Ohio Senator Bill DeMora DeMora DeMora wants to allow public money okay let me take this back

wants to not allow public money from going to a professional sports team unless they've had a winning record three of the last five seasons the Browns are asking for 600 million dollars from the state to build a new stadium that stadium ain't going to get built there.

Hey, listen. Jimmy D, you have to come out of their pockets. Hey, based on what he said, it's definitely not getting built. That's not going to happen. And I think this is going to be a dome too, huh? It's going to be a dome, but it's going to be an outdoor stadium still. I don't know why in a situation like that, now you neutralize

one of your greatest strengths which is the weather I mean can you imagine putting a dome in green but putting a you know they was talking about putting a dome in Chicago why

I mean now you bring that's the whole thing how you got the name monster to the midway you bring them bring them off that Lake Michigan

let that water blow in let them freeze it's 10 below it's 15 below same thing in Lambeau yeah same monster to the midway. You bring them, bring them off that Lake Michigan. Let that water blow in and let them freeze. It's 10 below. It's 15 below. Same thing in Lambeau. Yeah. Yeah.

I got you. I don't, I don't know. I don't know. But, you know, at top, especially in today's era,

you're putting your own team at a disadvantage. Yes. You're putting your own team at a disadvantage. He must be, he want to make sure, he don't make sure. Dang, there's no state money going to that.

A man made a list of things black people take seriously. Ocho, let's check out this list. Yeah, let me see that. Let me see that. Let me see that. Let me see that. They about to start taking the class for things black people take seriously because this list is the must.

And oh, I'm telling you, because man, the check, if you mess up on a black person's check, I promise you, they will become a mathematician. They will carry the one at that. Hey, I forgot one penny. Y'all forgot one penny. Y'all playing with me. That's number one.

And who did the body? That is the most ultimate. Black people will say it out loud. You know what I'm saying? Why your new grandma like that? Why she look melted? Why did they put her in the oven? Why she on 350 bake?

You know what I'm saying? Turn that heat down. They don't even look like grandma. I'll tell you, this is probably when people take off running. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Who running?

Who running? We don't even say a word to nobody. We just gonna take off and ask questions later oh and not calling elders by their first name there's a lot of people i didn't know they were their first name i just know them as sir and ma'am mom and dad until i was about nine that's when i was like oh that's your name oh and if you said what you was dying and come back to life again yeah hey i love him listen the first one is the most important the first one is the most

important obviously that check but number two for me his number two was cool but obviously his number two was i think if i'm not mistaken was talking about who did the body that's the funeral that's number three know who over there you call somebody hey you get who over there who all over there we didn't know who all over there. Because it's a bull job. I ain't going. Yeah, I know. Before that is, if somebody cooking, and the first thing you ask, somebody going to ask, every time would have been number two for me. Well, who cooking the yams?

Well, who cooking the greens? The potato salad and the back of cheese. Who cooking? Hey, I got you. You don't want to know who did that, buddy. He look just like himself. How is he supposed to look? Like a horse? I mean, that's him. He just. Dang. He just. And look? Like a horse? I mean that's him

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No, no. Oh, no. Splitting poles. Hey, we prepared. Hey, come back around here, man. Well, you'll walk back around the pole. You're not splitting no pole.

No sign. We're walking on the same side. Can't put the floor in the purse. Being Luther, skating Luther. Definitely can't get

no baby, no haircut before he won. Can't do that. Calling elders by their first name. Nah. Mr. Such and such.

They couldn't be about, that might not be but by five, six years older than you. It's always Mr. Miss. Yes, sir. No, sir.

Yes, ma'am. No, ma'am. Absolutely. Can't sleep to tell you, being offered a bag after purchase. I hate when people like, I got like $70 worth of stuff. Would you like a bag?

No, I'm going to carry this issue out of my arms. What the hell you think? Hold on. You know, you go to certain places, not certain stores, and you buy clothes on, you got to pay 10 cents for the bag? They add one bag? Well, obviously I do, because I'm not going to be able to carry all this stuff.

I don't give a damn what you're talking about. Well, that'll be 10 cents. And at some stores, though, Joe, if you bring your own bags, they won't bag it. I said, well, no, just go ahead and do that. I don't work here. What the hell are you talking about? Yeah, man. Hey.

And it's like, well, how much does this cost? I said, I don't know. I'll stay right there. Would you like to get another one? Yeah, you can go get it, but I'm not going to walk back over there and get another one. Right. Y'all going to be like, I work here. Y'all work here.

I don't did my part. I came to the counter. But yeah, bro, I agree with these. Clothes on the bed. You can't put clothes on the bed. You have some good ones now. You have some good ones. Yeah, yeah.

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You saw that picture I sent you to your phone? I did. Yeah, Freddie. That from tonight? I guess. It got to be because he in that uniform. You see it? Okay, yeah, Freddie Gibbs.

Freddie Gibbs watching, man. Salute, man. My brother, Freddie Gibbs, watching the show. He sent me. He sent that to me. He told me to send it to you and he said, he said, Lakers in five. Alright, Music Queen

said, Ocho, I was laid off two weeks ago and still have to spend money to spend some money to tell you to turn your MoFo Boost mobile light on. You never turn your nightcap light on ever. What the F? But this is, hold on, hold on, hold on.

This is the thing, right? Now, look real quick. You can see it looks good. It looks good. It's lit up because my room is all black. So if there's still pops, then if I if I light if I turn the light on Then it's gonna distort the lighting is not gonna be clear as you can see right now You can still see it said nightcap. You can see the booth presented by booze mobile. Very very clear. That's all

The people paying us money, let's come on now. Let's be professional turn the light on Okay, when you get to the new place if you move it to the new place, let's Turn the light on. Okay. When you get to the new place, if you're moving to the new place, let's put the light on. Yeah. Yeah, this is my lab. This is my lab right here. Moving forward, can we put the light on?

I don't think that's asking too much. I mean, think about it. You complained about us not having a title sponsor. We get a title sponsor and they ask us, could we do these signs? Yes.

And now you don't want to turn the sign on? Alright, you're going to see. You're going to be looking funny. You ain't going to look funny, Hocho. Does mine look funny? Yeah, a little bit. It look like all the nice. Man, cut that side off.aron orrin says is russell wilson on his verge of playing his way out of the hall of fame or has he done enough that he will

make it regardless but he's making it regardless i mean what he's done in the past you can't undo that uh because it's not going not going the way it it should be? No. I think the thing is, look, I don't think Russ is a first ballot. That's reserved. Aaron Rodgers, the Mahomes when he retire. I think he's done enough. Ocho, he's going to probably, I don't know. I think he has like over 300 touchdowns. He's probably close to 50,000 passing yards.

Although 50,000 passing yards, it used to be the barometer. Now you got guys with 60 and 70,000 passing yards, although 50,000 passing yards, it used to be the barometer. Now you got guys with 60 and 70,000 with Brady. It's going to be very, very interesting to see. Tiffany Williams says, got my meet and greet tickets for Detroit show. Hope to see y'all all there. Tiffany, you will definitely see us there. Thank you so much for your support and make sure you let us know.

Hey, I'm Tiffany. I've talked to you guys on the chat and on Nightcap. Let us know. Thank you, Tiffany. We really appreciate that. A six foot eight Aquarius. Crunching Munch, Captain Crunch, fourth period lunch. Lakers in five.

Lakers in five. Jerome, Kamani, let them know. Or Fury Lodge. Lakers in five. Lakers in five. Jerome. Kamani. Let them know it doesn't matter if it's Puka Nakua, Luka with Hookah, or Hawk Tui. Hey, that's a good one. Hey, Scooty Puff said quarter brick, half a brick, a whole brick. Ah. Lakers in five kepper norwood jr says uh now that

the game is over we have a great chance in the playoffs and please don't let kendrick perkins ever do another steven a's list on first take love you guys i don't know he left lakers off he left houston off right He left Houston off. Right. Now, Houston has the second best record. Lakers have the third best record. And he put, what did he put up there? He put Golden State. He put the Clippers.

And he put somebody else over the Lakers. I'm like, man, you high. Tony and G said, Uncle Nocho, if you're the GM for the Nuggets, what would be the first couple of things doing to give Joe some help? And do you think the Nuggets, he's a Nugget for life, still after the coaching change? Bro, they just won a championship two years ago. Yeah, that's crazy.

I mean, think about it. Nick Nurse won a championship. Gone. Frank Bogle won a championship. Gone. Mike Malone won a championship. Gone. Mike Budenholzer won a championship. Gone. Gone. Who? Ty Lue. What?

Yeah. Ty Lue won in 16 it was fired in 18 the Ocho the problem Yoke has another

triple W he has 10 12, 10, and 10 uh is that because it used to be coaches made more

than the players now the the pendulum has swung players make so much more money. And superstar players have always controlled the NBA. This is not anything new.

Now the old guard want to make it seem like, oh, these young guys getting players fired. It's always been like that. Go back and look. Bill Fitch and Larry Bird. Go back and look at Paul Westfall Paul Westhead and Magic Johnson it's always been like this nothing's changed

it's now the players just have more power because they make so much money right a guy making 60 million or a guy making 10 million you can tell who makes the decisions you just try to be on his you just try to be on his good side. It is

what it is. Shanice Palmer said, my sister and I absolutely love you guys. I'm Ocho and she's even though we're twins, keep doing the great work. Great things, guys. We support you regardless. Love all. Shanice, thank you

very much. Tell your sister I really regardless love all Shanice thank you very much Shanice dad tell your sister I really like her Shanice I'm kind of I'm so so on you right now but you should have put your sister name in there so we could have known who we dealing with Shanice

is team Ocho and her sister is team Up we love you guys both thank you for the support Vanessa and Uncle Ocho my favorite chocolate duo And her sister is Team Up. We love you guys both. Thank you for your support. Vanessa and Uncle Ocho, my favorite chocolate duo. Looking forward to seeing you in Be More. I'm curious, what value or principle do you hold most dear? And how do they guide your approach in both business and romantic pursuit?

Oh, Mama, you know what? I do everything. I do everything I do everything oh man I'm trying to make sure I say it the right way well it's not great oh man damn I had it right on the tip of my tongue

as soon as I heard it I was like oh this is a good one you know we know when things don't work out but you but you meant well by everything you do mhm

that's why you don't why you never feel bad when you why you never feel bad because everything you did was with great intention I'm trying to think of

if that's the right word that's not the word I'm looking for, but that's something that I always, always, always stood and always stand on where I never feel bad

throughout the entirety of my years, especially when it comes to business and when it comes to, you know, relationships as well since she added that,

added that in there as well. I do everything, everything from the heart and really want nothing in return. Like, everything from the heart and really want nothing in return. Like everything is always genuine. Yeah. Always.

In business, just be straight up with me. Tell me what it is. If it's this, it's this. If it's not, it's not. That's all I ask. I don't require a whole lot. I like to be left alone. I'm going to come in. I'm going to do my job.

If I call you, I really got a problem. If I call you, I got a problem. Let's address it. Let's handle it. Let's see the best way to move forward in my relationship. Hey, if you don't want to be with me, just tell me. Yep.

It's going to hurt. It's going to hurt. It's going to hurt, absolutely. But if you live as long as I have, I promise you, you've been hurt. You've been heartbroken before. Hey, I'll never forget. You just, ooh, that was triggering. Oh, man, that was triggering. If you live long enough, you're going to be heartbroken.

And as I said before, when you don't want to end the relationship and the other person does, it hurts you more than it hurts them. Not to say it doesn't hurt them, because sometimes in order to change, it requires hurt. Yeah. But think about it, Ocho. Shedding skin is painful. But you know why a snake shed the skin,

not to change from being a snake to grow. That's why when somebody cross you, you don't allow them a second chance, you know, because when a snake sheds his skin, it's not becoming something else. It's becoming a bigger snake. Hmm.

Let me tell you something. Now you're a little different. I like that story. Now I say it was triggering when you said about someone actually leaving you and it was triggering because it brought me back to a story I'll never forget. And I was just telling a friend of mine this story back in 1983. And they always ask like, you know, Osho, when your relationships have ended all this time, how come you were able to move on with such grace and not be upset or not be sad? And I told him, listen, I've become numb to this stuff because back in 1983, that was the worst pain I ever felt. 1983, I was in elementary school.

I will never forget. It was a young lady. And I told that story before earlier, you know, in a few shows a while back, and her and I were dating. And I felt we were in a relationship even in elementary school. 1980, I'll never forget, North Beach Elementary. I had an

eight box of Crayola crayons. Eight box, huh? Every time we sat together and we did coloring, I gave you my red crayon. I I gave you my red crayon. I let you use my red crayon. So I felt we was together. You told me we was together.

New dude named Ted came to our school in the middle of the semester. Obviously, it's not a semester because it's only elementary, but he came to our class. Ted had a 64-box of crayons. So she went from using my red crayon to using

one of Ted's red crayons because it had multiple shades of the color red in the box. Well, you only had an 8-pack. Yeah, you know, there was only one red crayon. So he had multiple crayons. Yeah, you know, it was only one red crayon. So he had multiple crayons. And I mean, listen,

it's a testament to how things are today in this world because, you know, that girl, I never forget her name, her name Tina. And that let me know

when she grew up, if I only had $50, if a dude with $100 came along, the chances are she'd probably leave me. You know? So ever since that hurt I felt back then, I've been numb

ever since then. Ever since then. It's tough. Relationships are tough. They're not easy. I think everybody has come to that realization and understand they're not easy. It takes a lot of sacrifice.

Because it's easier to grow apart than it is to grow together. You see, in order to stay in a relationship, you've got to want to stay in the relationship. Right. And you've got to be willing to grow every day. Because that's a new person. The person that you went to bed with last night is not the person you're going to wake up with today. No, sir. Are you went to bed with last night is not the person you're going to wake up with today. No, sir.

Are you willing to change? Or, I mean, cause some, cause it's the days that you don't have, that you're not your best. And they're not at their best. Because that's a lot of times what happens.

Oh, Joe, they're not at their best. You're not at their best. You can say, okay, F this. I'm out.

Cause it's easy. The easiest thing you'll ever do, no matter what can say, okay, F this, I'm out. Because it's easy to quit. The easiest thing you'll ever do, no matter what it is, is to give up. That's the easiest way out. It is. It's to give up.

It is. The easiest way. And another thing, especially for the chat, listen, listen, listen, listen,

listen, listen to me real quick. Y'all probably listen. You might not like the messenger, but my message is always good. You just don't like it coming from me sometimes. Nah, I got 47 years of experience,

you know, doing this, y'all. But anyway, most of the time when you're going through it with your partner or whoever it may be and things are rocky and you don't know what you should do, let them go. Let them go.

Because the only way to see someone's true character i'm talking about their true character and who you really dealing with dealing with is by giving them their freedom and they'll show exactly what they really want to be doing every time huh give them their freedom let them go on about their business you know know, give them some time. Give them some space. Because space will reveal some true character. Now, I know what you're always telling me. I hear what you're telling me all the time, but you actually show otherwise.

I hear better than I see. Oh, man, listen, every time. I see better than I hear, actually. Because what they're telling you, Ocho, and what you see, that message is not a lie. Oh, yeah. If I tell you I'm going to come on a certain time and I don't show up, I know what you told me. But when I looked at the clock, that wasn't the time and you didn't show up at all.

Come on, man. Because at the end of the day, the beginning of the day or or whatever, the sunset, or whatever the case may be. Yes, sir. If you do not want to be with Shannon, just tell Shannon that. Yeah, don't do that, huh? Ain't nobody finna leave you, man. Shut up.

It's happening. But I like, I like, honestly, I like being up front. Just tell me that and I'm okay with it. Uh-huh. Yeah, for real oh it's happened because here's the thing a lot of times guys guys get in a situation and like oh that's never

happened to me you're lying because if and the more you invest in something you see how luca was emotional because he was invested the more you invest in anything it used to break my heart to lose because i was so invested and a lot of times i would have to go to myself be alone i would say hey i don't want to be i don't i don't want to see you tonight well i just know and i would just like i would i would cry and i'd ask, what could I have done? Why did I not play better? It's the same thing in a relationship. And I replay that because, see, the mind replays what the heart can't delete.

And I ask myself, what could I have done differently? What could I have said differently? Why did I have to respond the way I did in this situation? Why couldn't I be more calm? Why couldn't I be more calm? Why couldn't I be more understanding, more empathetic? Uh-huh. And as the more things you go through,

you start to realize, like, okay, Shannon, it wasn't as bad as you thought. You could have handled it a million different ways. And 999,000 of them would have been right. Right.

You chose the one that was wrong. It was tough. It's tough. I think the thing for me is that because I've been through so much, because I'm a very private person, people don't see that because I don been through so much, because I'm a very private person,

people don't see that because I don't live my life up. I'm a public figure. I've come to accept that. But I do everything I possibly can to keep as much of my private life private, Ocho. So guess what? I can go through things in private.

I can grieve in private. I can celebrate in private. I can grieve in private. I can celebrate in private. I'm okay with that. I can take my wins and my losses in private. Yeah. I like that. That was a good one.

It's a... Man, that was good it happens good evening guys of the public figure where do you all go to be fully yourselves with no judgment if your love life was a book what would the title

of the last chapter be where can I go to be my holy self where can I go probably if I'm with my brother my sister can I go to be my holy self? Where can I go? Probably if I'm with my brother, my sister, my kids. But I'm only like that if I'm in the privacy of my own home.

Because I'm never myself when I'm out in public. When I'm with my sister, I'm with my brother, I'm with my brother, I'm with my kids, I'm straightened up. Because, Ocho, it's just so hard because I feel that every place

I go, I'm being recorded, I'm being filmed. And I think you have to do that now. And some things you learn a hard lesson. So for me, I think you have to do that now. And some things you learn a hard lesson. So for me. Right. Nowhere.

And I'm okay with that, Ocho. I'm okay with that. Hey, boy, I mean, when I think about it, I'm myself. I'm very comfortable, obviously, obviously publicly you and I are completely different listen we are on two different sides of the spectrum you know I'm very sociable I'm a social butterfly which at times has gotten me in trouble

you know I'm able to be myself in front of crowds I love large crowds or I can be by myself and be alone and be with my kids I'm able to be myself with my kids, most definitely. I'm able to be myself with whoever it is I'm seeing at that time. But there's a certain level of comfort, you know, with said individual.

I'm one of the few. Is it Outrovert? Is that what it's called? Outrovert? Outrovert? Introvert. Outrovert. Introvert is an extrovert. You're outgoing's called outrovert outrovert introvert introvert introvert you're an extrovert you're outgoing oh actually yeah oh yeah i'm i'm too about

period i mean people in the chat if you met me before you already know i'm i'm hugging i'm acting like i know you 30 20 years i never met you a day in my life. I'm extremely outgoing. I have a huge personality. So for me, ah, man, I'm at my happy place, man, all the time, especially with my... I'm the most outgoing introvert you're going to ever meet.

Right. I understand that blah, blah, blah, but Ocho, when I... Yeah. If I'm in a public event and I'm talking, I'm going from place to place, Ocho, when I get home I, if I'm in a public event and I'm talking, I'm going from place to place. Ocho, when I get home, it's like I play the game.

I'm exhausted. I'm exhausted. I'm spent. Yeah. I mean, it's all I can do to take my shoes off, to take my clothes off, to hang them up, put them in the laundry. I'm exhausted. Yeah. I'm on a plane, Ocho, and I catch people. They're recording me. I'm like, bro. Right. Oh, I'm exhausted. Yeah. I'm on a plane, Ocho, and I catch

people, they're recording me. I'm like, bro. Right. Oh, I'm sorry. Ocho, they ask me, is that a problem? I'm like, really? Right. Yeah. Really. If you didn't think it was a problem, you would have asked me. Could I take a picture? That's not what you did.

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that instead of me you and i we we we handle conflict and situation completely different yeah but you know you know the thing is i think you just you know you uh um i've learned to accept it that this is a part of it now i've learned to accept it that this is a part of it now I've learned to accept a lot of things that people are going to have I'm going to be the top of a conversation yeah

you just deal with it you just deal with it I know now Ocho what to respond to and what not to respond to. And people want me to respond. They want to get into a verbal back and forth. Right.

I'm done with it. Yeah. I'm done with it. Because guess what, Ocho? You see that light? What's behind us? Yeah. Yes, sir.

All that stuff that they say about me, it ain't stopped. Not one sponsor. Guess what? Jordan came here and measured we got another sponsor we're going to have a light on for that too give us a week you going to send me one not if you don't turn it on why am I sending you one

you don't turn that one on hold on you got to tell me hold on let me know before I do the measurements tomorrow I'm putting everything up this apartment is empty. Ain't nothing here. I left this here because I still have my internet. My internet going to be tomorrow.

How much space I need to put between the sponsors so I can measure tomorrow? I don't know. I mean, Jordan just measured mine. We'll see how big it is. We'll let you know. I need to know how many words are in it so I can have everything perfect. I got a big space. But Ocho, you don't, Ocho,

you don't know the space that you're going to have, that you're going to have the nightcap sign up yet. No, I do. It's huge, huh? You got to see, you got to see my new game room, huh?

You're going to love it. And y'all, you and Ash and Jordan, y'all got to come down here and visit. I'm going to cook for y'all. Oh, no, I'm good. I'm good. Hey, I'm telling you.

That's the thing. And you, I just learned and I'm good. And so, that's the thing. I just learned and I had to learn the hard way going back and forth with people and they got more out of that than I did. So now,

I just let it go. Yes, sir. Well, you let yours go. I'm firing back. You go right ahead because guess what? Huh?

This side. And all the sponsors and the advertisers, they not stop. They haven't stopped. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They'll never stop. Can't stop.

Won't stop. And she's like, you know what? She's like, Shannon. She's like, tell me what it is that they say that gets you in this space. Say, how many advertiser sponsors have you lost? I say, none. Anybody told you they wasn't going to sleep with you because they said

this about you? I was like, no. She said, so why the F do you care? Boo! I was like now that I think about it that's a damn good point yeah it is I understand that you're absolutely right

not one sponsor have left because they said that I feel you Not one sponsor have left because they said that. Mm-hmm. I feel you. Women are still very interested, so I'm good. Oh, hey, but they still interested? Still.

Yeah, I didn't wave my white flag. I'm off the market, but I still got somebody for you, though. I don't know if you, you know, let me know. I don't want to be too forward on the show, but yeah, I got somebody. Xavier Torres says, love what y'all do. Both are the absolute best.

Who would win one-on-one game of basketball? Me? Hold on. Come again? Me. I don't like the fact that you didn't even take time to think about that first. Me. Now, you just heard me challenge Pat Beverly.

I don't care about that. And you think you're going to beat me? Yeah, I do. I don't think I know I could. And I ain't shot a basketball. I probably shot a basketball one time in the last 35 years. I want you to do me a favor, man. Please, until you see me play, please look at the footage first before you answer.

Because you're answering too fast. That's what I got. I like it. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy. Hey, fam. I hope I see Sterling again that Monday after the Masters on Monday. He'll probably be there. I got to go to the Masters.

I'm going to the Masters next year. Because, you know, the food is still like when they had it back in the 30s when they first started this. A sandwich is still $1.50. They have not raised their prices in all the years, Ojo. Mm-hmm. Now, if we can get the rest of the economy

to take after the masses, we'll be all right. But see, when you got those billionaires paying all those dues, you can do that. Because you remember how they pulled out because the one year they had the sponsors, I think they wouldn't let a woman join

and all the advertisers, they said, we don't care. They said, don't worry about it, sponsors. We're going to do it commercial free. That's y'all sponsors came back. They're not going to let you hold them hostage. They got too much money in state. Right.

And that's prime real estate, and sponsors understood that. Who are we hurting? We're hurting ourselves. It's like, no, okay, we're not going to do that. Man, that was a great show tonight, Ocho. And we want to thank our very special guest, Pat Bell. Pat, man, appreciate it, bro. You're welcome back anytime.

Thank you for adding insight, a perspective from an NBA player, what it's like in the locker room, the expectation, the play, the style of play. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Uncle Ocho, nightcap. We greatly. Now, I want no pimento sandwich. I hate pimento cheese.

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